The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: This Episode May Get Bobby Canceled + New FSU HC Luke Loucks on Getting His Dream Job + Reid Has a Major Life & Career Announcement

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

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Yes. Sometimes. But I do think we need to have a little announcement here. I think it just needs to be said. So on this show, the whole time we've done the show, my name is Bobby. and that's Eddie, kickoff Kevin, Mike is producing the show, Casey, Digital Edits video, Reed, who's been my guy that's been on the road with me and in life and all creative content. La, la, we told you Reed was leaving and Reed was moving.

Reed's about to be wife is going to be a doctor, and that program works. You kind of don't get to pick where you go? No, not really. It's like a sorority thing. It's like a... I don't never did that, so... They pilified? It does, it depends on the program, you know?

So what do you mean by that? So it's like, it's like they make a list and then it basically goes down like... Oh, like picking a sorority, not being in one. Yeah, yeah. Or like how they pick you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I never been in a sorority. I didn't know what he was talking about, dude.

Yeah. Were you in a fraternity? I was. Remember they took them the woods? I know. And they played the rooster song. But I didn't know if he stayed in after that. Did you?

I got cut. I came back, though. I went through it again. A redemption story. Wow. That's a story for Disney. Not even another day, but like maybe later today. And it was weird because like I knew what was happening, even though all the other like

new pledges didn't know what was happening. What was happening? When they abducted you? Yeah. Like I had to go through that again. Just hold off on that story. Yeah, yeah. Hold off on that story.

All of this. Hold on our story. Okay. Okay. So, Reed is engaged, he's going to be married. He told his about to be wife that wherever she goes, he's just going to go with her. Love, man. Love man.

Amen, brother. And so you guys have been living apart for how long? So we've been together seven years. Out of those seven years, we've lived five years apart. And you would drive down to, like, Louisiana. It's been Monroe, Louisiana for four of those years. and it's a seven and a half hour drive. So I try to go once a month.

So I do, I put some miles on the car. Love, man. Love, man. He's like, but, and I told him, second time, at least don't let me be naked when you have dog meat. No, dude. We're not there right now.

We'll get to it. So, she had picked her places on, like, Little Rock, I think, was an option. Yeah, it was like Litter Rock, Texas. Memphis, St. Louis. Any far, far ones? Orlando was like the furthest. Yeah, nice. And we mainly just put that because like worst case, like Disney, man.

Yeah, Disney. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like Disney World. So, without saying it though, but she has her place. Mm-hmm. Did she pick it? So we were battling between. What do you mean battling?

Like we were trying to decide where to list. So you're listing in order and then they're listing in order and they kind of match them. Yes, exactly. And Nashville wasn't an option. Like I have any idea. Oh yeah. Sorority. I don't know.

I need to say that. And Nashville was not an option. No, not for pediatrics. Yeah. Stupid kids. I know, man. I'm kids, dude. All right.

So go ahead. And so you're listing them. And so you are deciding on your order. Mm-hmm. And in your version, what did you want to be number one? So at first, I wanted it to be Memphis. Because, like, her family is close to there. And, like, I'm closer to Nashville.

way to. And so then we went to St. Louis to do a second look. It was also Valentine's weekend. So we were like, we'll just also make a trip out of it. And so we went there and just the vibe of like not turning the street and worrying about your safety was a little bit better. Wait, have you been? Okay, anyway, go ahead. Better, better. No, better though. As far as for her going to the hospital, like when she did her. Like that specific block. Exactly. Got it. Okay. You drove the route. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Because, yeah, when she did her little rotation in Memphis, she had to, like, get up at, like, four in the morning

and, like, literally step over homeless dudes to get to the parking lot. And, like... That's... Okay, regardless. Yeah, anyway. I hear you. Anyway, as far as vibes, it's, like,

it's an hour... It's an hour further away than Memphis is to Nashville. So it's, like, four and a half hours from here. Yeah. And the, like, living lifestyle there, like, just seemed a whole lot better as far as, like, people are actually going out in New York. doing stuff.

I think it was just where you were looking at that block at that time, though, because you're like, people had on hats. I'm like, no, dude, that's just, there just weren't people in hats where you were. That's true. But I hear you. Yeah. So from your experience, you like, this doesn't mean picked it, but you liked St. Louis over Memphis now and you guys' ranking.

For sure. And so, but now you're waiting on their ranking to come back. Yep. Exactly. And you get the rankings back. And it turns out, which, by the way, if Reed was going to, to live in Memphis, we're going to find a way from to, you know, be here a little bit. It's close enough.

It's close enough. It can't be here all the time, obviously he's got a life. It really felt like Memphis was going to be. But apparently there was a homeless person that had to be stepped over. You have to walk over them. That one guy, dang it. So, what happened? So it turns out, I'm going to the Lou, baby.

I'm going to be a Cardinal. No, no, you're not going to school there. No, I'm not signing. Yeah, yeah. They also have the Rams. Yeah, we do get tickets to the Cardinals. I'll be a blues. That's awesome.

So you're moving to St. Louis. I'm moving to St. Louis. Dude, we've been on the freaking grind trying to find a place, and it's kind of a nightmare. But we were like, do we buy? Do we rent? And so I think we're just going to rent for the first year and try to figure things out because, I mean. No, no, we don't care about this part. Yeah.

I'm going to Lou. Like what kind of bed do we buy? Yeah. Like, which part of Wayfair do we search? No, no, we're going. Wait, so you are, when is your last day with us? Last day here would be May 1st.

So the moving is probably going to be like that May 3rd weekend. And how sad are you because there are sacrifices, obviously. How sad are you because you have to leave this? I'm extremely sad because I mean as far as like being around like you guys and like the connections I've made and just being able to do cool stuff like freaking go to California and potentially go to a Razor bag game is like when do you ever get to do that sort of stuff so like that's that's going to be sad but I'm just I'm also excited to just kind of figure it out

I took him to Super Bowl I know that's what I'm saying three weeks ago and I would have picked the Super Bowl he's like example you know yeah you're right You're right. Super Bowl is definitely up there. Too many homeless guys stepping over there to get into the game. He's an Arkansas guy. Yeah, for sure. There's too many things to count.

But I mean, my ultimate dream is always to have my own production company. So I would love to just, I want to get as much business coming my way to where I can just start hiring people and do that. So it's going to be a struggle a little bit, but I'm going to be in town. I know you'll probably say that, like, okay, yeah, he says he's going to come back in town. Oh, this is definitely high school graduation where we're going to be friends. always going to stay in touch. Yeah, you'll be here once

every seven weeks and your production company's not going to start so you suck. What? I completely shut him down. He's like, no, that's going to work, man. You have years now that you have to dedicate

to her and that you're not going to be able to build anything here. Why not build it there is my point? Not that there's a lot of as much work there, but because this is a town where there's a big creative hub. But, yeah. You've got the Cardinals over there, though. He is one.

So you're moving to St. Louis. Moving to St. Louis. And you're leaving all of us behind. Damn. I'll be back. I promise I will. I will be knocking at your door. No, you won't.

Yes, I will. Watch me. He comes to our windows. It's me, Reeves. I told you. Back, baby. Congratulations. Thank you.

At least there is some closure on where you're going to live and how does she feel about it? I mean, yeah, she felt great. It's such an incredible program and, like, super prestigious for pediatrics and stuff like that. So she's super pumped and she's going to get good education there. That's great. Good for you, Reed. Yeah.

Thanks, man. Good for you, man. That didn't really sound very enthusiastic. Well, we're sad. We're sad you're leaving. We are sad you're leaving because you've been a big part of the group. But we also know once you're gone, you're gone. I'll be back.

Dude, it's not, you may come back occasionally, but you, you, you may come back occasionally, but you're not coming back. Like, Kevin didn't even invite us to his wedding party. Did you still listen to that episode? Yes, of course I did. This is what happened with Kevin, because Kevin has like wedding party, a wedding. He has like...

All this baptism. He has like a gathering to talk about the party where there's cake. And so we're on here going, nobody got invited to crap. And it wouldn't matter, but he invited like another random guy that works in the building.

If it was only like family, we'd have got it. So he was gone on his honeymoon, and I posted that episode. Not to him, I just posted it. Oh, we're talking about him? Yeah, and the headline is like, Kevin eats balls or something, or whatever it was. There was Bobby and Eddie get upset with Kevin. Yeah, and so I swipe up to see who looked at it, and I saw Kevin looked at it. And I was like, he for sure could not have kept his curiosity from listening to this episode.

I'm on my honeymoon, like, what the hell they'd say? about me over there. So yes. I'm sorry, guys. Again. But you live here, so we're good. And he still doesn't invite us to things. So that's my point.

Reed, it's going to be awesome. Good luck to you. You're going to do another few weeks of episodes with us. And then, you know, moving on up. Good luck, man. I'll be around. You're not. Oh, my gosh.

Stop saying that. It's high school, right? It's high school. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I will move on with life and that's okay. And that's awesome.

Yeah. It really is. We'll be friends forever, right in the yearbook. And, like, yeah, I have a fine memory of them? Yeah? Have I talked to them in eight years? No. And that's okay.

It's not like eight hours away. Like, I drove seven and a half hours every month for four years. Because you're going to marry her. Yeah, but I love you guys. Are you going to do stuff to me? Okay, then. No, that's it. Yeah, that's fair.

All right. Exactly. It's a big incentive. It's fair. Yeah. So, okay. So that's that. We do have sports stuff to talk about.

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and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest, the director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar.

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He then was a warrior's assistant, won two NBA championships with the Warriors, spent a few years with the Kings. Pretty cool to go back home. He was hired March 9th to replace legendary head coach Leonard Hamilton, who we met spent time with was awesome. And here he is, coach Luke Lowkes. Coach, I got to tell you, I have become a secondary FSU basketball fan because of Eric and Chuck that worked there, and they could not be happier that

you are the coach. I've talked to both of them. I don't talk to anybody on the phone. I don't talk on the phone at all. I've talked to both of them. And they're like, you are going to love Luke. And so let me just say that, first of all, congratulations, because I know it's, I'm going home. I'm going. Like, congratulations on getting the job. Give me your emotions right now, coach. Man, I'm thrilled. You mentioned Eric and Chuck, two people I've kept in touch with since my playing days. I'm through the roof. Now, we got a lot of work to do, and there's a lot going on.

So I can't take too long to enjoy the moment. We got to hit the ground running, but I'm excited. Chuck, I believe, said that when he was working as maybe assistant S-I-D, that you were playing then for him while he was there and got to know you as a player. Is that true? That's true, yep. That's pretty cool. is so cool to be able to wear your logo again. Like again, after you've done your thing, you play

ball at the highest level, you played overseas, but you get to wear your logo. How quickly did this come together? It was quite a long process. I knew there was a chance just with Coach Hamilton's age and Coach Hamilton's a mentor of mine. So we kept in close communication throughout the years, both when I was playing professionally overseas and in the minor leagues of the NBA and as my coaching career got started. He was, he's one of my mentors, he's a close friend of my So he helped me in a lot of different ways as my career began to take off in the NBA. And through that, you know, naturally he's hit a point in his career where eventually you got to, you got to move on to other things.

And he had such a good run and so successful on and off the court. So I knew, you know, just timing wise, there could be a chance, but it's never real until it's real. So over the past, you know, six months to a year. it began to be a little more real. And then once the actual interview process took place, you know, I felt like I had a good shot at it. And I was fortunate enough to get the job.

And here we are. Do Coach Hamilton ever just sing to you? Because he sang to us. He put us in a room. And he just let it. I mean, he gave us a good two or three minutes. He ever do that when you were playing with him? Yeah.

So I told him one of the first things he needs to do in retirement to get singing lessons because he enjoyed singing. And I don't know how many people around him enjoy the singing. But he's such a kind heart, his gospel music. He's always playing music. He's got a great spirit about him. But yeah, he's got to work on the, work on the chords a little bit. Does that help you, and do you think that helps the organization that, and I hate to use the word blessing,

but that there was a positive relationship and you played for Coach Hamilton and now you're succeeding Coach Hamilton. Yeah, without a doubt. Coach Hamilton and I talk almost every day since getting the job. and he's been a huge supporter, both just with my mental stability. I told the story the other day. He called me a few days ago, and he always checks in, hey, how's the recruiting going? Do you need any relationships I can help you with? How's your staff coming along?

And so I thought it was one of those calls, and he said, hey, can you send me your wife's phone number? I think I have it, but I don't know what the same one. And I'm like, yeah, why do you need Stevie's phone number? And he's like, because I want my wife to call her and just mention. mentor her a little bit. And I'm worried about her and the kids and the transit. So that's the, that's the type of guy he is, right? He's, he's as selfless as they come. He always cares about other people. And it's been a huge blessing, like you said, not only just to be okay

with my hire, but also to support me in a lot of different ways as a young head coach. Portal just opened up. That's, that's, I live in a town called Mount Pine, Arkansas, and they'd release the water from the dam like once a year fully. And it was like, whoosh, I got to imagine that's what day one, day two of the portal's like. Yeah, there's a lot of preparation and legwork leading up to the portal, right? You're having conversations with agents, with coaches, with former coaches, because you can't contact the kids until they're officially in the portal, which opened yesterday at midnight.

So there's a lot of preparation leading up to it. But then once this thing, like you said, it's like a damn, that you can't turn it off, right? I told this story to one of our coaches. I woke up this morning and my right elbow was on fire, right? Just like lit. And I couldn't figure out what happened. And then the first call I got, I went to put the phone to my ear and I realized I'd

been on the phone for about 14 hours a day before. And so I had to go find my AirPods because my elbows, it feels like a steak knife center right now. So I have what they would call tennis elbow for playing pickleball. You have portal elbow. We need to start naming that for coaches. You have portal elbow at this point. So how many hours of the day, and I appreciate you talking with this story,

because I know right now it's a very intense time for everyone because of that. How many hours of the day now are you talking with a player, an agent, a parent about what next season is going to look like? Yeah, it's constant. And our staff, our assistant coaches have done a great job lining things up. But they're constantly, they'll walk in the room. I'll be on one call. As soon as I finish, they say, hey, we got this guy in the line.

This is who it is. This is why you need to talk to him. We watched their film yesterday. You approved of the player. You think he can fit of what we're trying to build in our vision. You need to talk to them for 10 minutes. And then that's just a constant back and forth. And in between, you know, you're back in your town where you played in.

So there's a lot of relationships, a lot of close relationships that people I care about that want to stop by the office. And so you don't want to be disrespectful. But at the same time, you've got to build a team. you know, or you're going to be kicking yourself for the next 10 months that we missed out on this guy, I missed out on this guy. So it's, it's, I'm going a thousand miles an hour right now. I keep using the, I'm, I'm just swimming in the deep end, you know, and, and, but I'm super grateful for the staff. My assistant coaches, they're doing a phenomenal job. And without them, I, I, I couldn't get

any of this done. I want to ask a culture versus a short-term success question. And I'm hope I'm asking in this in a way that comes off as somewhat intelligent. Um, year, one with you being the head coach of Florida State, obviously you have a culture to build, but obviously college basketball has changed where it's kind of like European basketball, where everybody's on a one-year contract, for lack of a better term. You have a culture you want to build, but you also need really good players. Where is your line right now of you need a certain type of player, but you also need a player that's really good that may not exactly be the culture you're looking for? Yeah, I'm a big believer in culture drives success, right?

the process of the way you do things brings the results. And any coach can sit here and talk about culture and any coach considering to talk about I want to win this many games. But that is a daily commitment to a certain standard, a certain set of values you have, starting with me and my staff and everyone in this building. And as we build this team, those are the type of players we need to bring in, that we think can uphold those standards in the locker room. So, Bobby, of course, there has to be a level of talent.

to win games, but talent can only get you so far. You know, it can only win you so many games. If the locker room is disconnected, if there's not a commitment to a championship culture, those championship results will never happen. So I'm a big believer in surrounding myself on my staff with the right people who are about the right things. And then through that, through our evaluation, through our lens, gathering intel, you can tell really quickly if a kid has that and fits that or he doesn't.

So those are the type of kids we're going after. Obviously, there's a baseline level of talent that you have to have. But if there's a kid that's a little more talented but doesn't quite fit with what we're doing or a kid that's a little less talented, but he's a really, really good character, hardworking, high IQ kid, we're probably going to go after the latter. I'm going to be candid with you here. And I will appreciate any response you give to this. But I know in the booster world, especially when it comes to NIL and collectives and et cetera,

that we're all having to learn and deal with. I am a, I would say, semi-significant booster at the University of Arkansas. I'm not John Tyson, I don't have six million dollars to pay a coach, but there are times where, let me say this in a way I feel like I can say it, that I, there is money that I give to my school, right? And so it's, hey, can you help here?

Can we help there? Are you having to create new relationships for that new part of college basketball now specifically when it comes to making sure these players get NIL money. First, Bobby, I don't know if I could sense a little bit of hesitation in your voice, but if Arkansas is not treating you right, you can always come over to Florida State. Hey, I'm telling you, basketball ain't treating me good. Football is treating me good. Basketball treats me like crap, but I hear you. Thank you, Coach.

If there's any level of not satisfied, just come on to the Florida State, you're welcome anytime. But no, it's been, it's been good. There's a lot of built. in relationships from my plane days with donors, with boosters, with faculty, with administration. Michael Alford, R. A.D., has been incredible. Peter Collins, the head of our board, has been incredible. Connecting me with the people I need to talk to. And a lot of these people, at some level, I already have relationships with. So it's easy for me. It's not a transactional conversation with a lot of these people because I know them and they know me and they know what I'm about. So it's it's I never want to be that guy on the corner asking for money.

You know, hey, hey, we can't do this without you because they're aware of it, you know, without donors, without boosters, without the, the fans having equity in what we're building. We don't have a team. And so everyone's aware of it. Everyone's been super supportive. We're trying to do this the right way. But we're also trying to give back, right? There's this perception in collegiate athletics right now that it's just, hey, we need more.

We need more. We need more. And it's like, okay, well, what can we give you? How can we build this relationship? So it makes sense for you. So you feel like you have equity in what we're building. And you're playing time at Florida State and then you're coaching or even your playing time overseas and you're playing in professional basketball. Offensively, what are you doing at Florida State that you have taken from all those different elements or are you still running basically the same thing that you ran as the point guard at Florida State back in the day? No, it's going to be much different. And that's no disrespect to Coach Hamilton or his staff. I've just been trained as a coach in the NBA ranks. And it's a different style. We're heavy on the analytics game and using data to drive what we're doing and support what we're doing. At the NBA level, obviously, you have much more resources, right? There's literal scientists on your staff that we just don't have in college.

But there is a baseline level of belief in terms of, of efficiency in terms of my basketball philosophy and the way I want to teach it. So the way I tell the recruits and their parents and their agents, it's going to be a mesh of an NBA style in the college game. So it's going to be a little bit faster, a little bit more pace, a little bit more space, less posting up, more three-pointers, more offensive rebounds. And those things generally lead to a more efficient way to play. And then within our evaluation, what type of kid can support that, right? We want to help these kids get to professional sports, right? And I know what it takes to get there. And I know it takes a stick because that's my foundation of coaching. So how can I put these kids in the best position possible?

So when scouts come watch us play, they can see it, right? They can see, oh, this kid could actually work in our system. That is usually not the case in college. Usually we get these kids in the NBA and the draft process and in the first week of training camp. And they have no idea how to play, right? It's like you're rewiring the play. And now you can't play a total NBA system in college. There's a few nuances that you've got to tweak. But for the most part, and like in the SEC, you guys playing in Alabama's doing a great job. Madoats has done a great job. He's brought in NBA staff.

He plays a modern style of basketball with his pace and the way they play and the way they move the ball and the way they cut. And there's other schools that are trying to do it with their hires. But not many colleges have not only the ability to do it, but just a basic understanding. of okay this is where these kids are going maybe we should help with our system to get them there you mentioned nate oats and natoz i think about just looking at the shot chart and it's all underneath the goal or it's all three-pointers right and so not a lot of mid-range when i think of albama great athletes not a lot of mid-range um and if i'm going to be extremely technical and ask the question that i want to know from you is there's a lot more uh handing off and the ball

holder also screening but it brings an extra defensive play to the player holding the ball. What are your thoughts? Because it seems like that's more than ever. You have guys handing the ball off as a pass. But again, you're bringing an extra defensive player to the player holding the ball. You do it.

Your thoughts on that philosophy, where do you fall on that? Yeah, some of it's personnel driven. Some of it depends on, you know, who's on your team and what style. I've seen more heavy pick and roll teams be really successful. In Sacramento with the Kings, We had a guy named Demontas Sabonis, and obviously we surrounded him, Deeran Fox,

from Leak Monk, all these guys that could shoot past and dribble, which is what I'm going to try to do here. But Subonis was very good with the ball as a center. So we, I think several years in a row, we led with dribble handoffs and handoff actions. And we were very low in our pick and roll actions

just because the ball naturally found Sabonis so often. That is something to an extent I'll bring to Florida State. Most coaches spend a lot of time in their defensive preparation on guardian pick and rolls because it happens so often. It's a little bit trickier guarding dribble handoffs because usually, you know, if you think about a big or even a guard, guard to guard handoff, if you mess up that coverage, the guy dribbling the ball can just keep it and go. And that's not the case in the pick and roll. So the guy with the ball is live, you know, and it's just a little more complicated to guard that. what I do believe in and some again some college are doing a lot of NBA teams are doing it the ball and body movement so there has to be a constant movement a constant flow of cutting towards the rim in an aggressive manner to collapse the defense to put a threat on the rim and then respacing out the backside so so if you think about defensive structure I know I'm getting a little technical and nerdy here there's you got to protect the paint which means helps got to come which means at one point you have two guys on you and then as the guy with the ball, you just got to make the right play over and over again.

Sometimes the right play is for you to score. Most of the time, as help comes, the right play is to find the open guy and create another advantage on the backside. I've got like five more minutes with you. I have a play suggestion of like maybe you tried out early on. I just don't know why it doesn't happen. And I've only ever had happen to me during pickup because I suck. But it works.

It's called the three-point airball alley-oop. Now, follow me here, coach. Imagine this Because I'm the one shooting I'm the one shooting the three-pointer That's the air ball But if everything looks Like a three-point shot

With one of your best shooters One of your higher percentage shooters He purposefully is shooting an air ball To where your other The back cut Knows it's an air ball jumps up times it Everyone else takes his three-pointer

There's an alley-oop They're just sitting there Why don't people run the three-ball airball alley-a-oop? Isn't that the greatest play ever? Bobby, I'm going to have to think about that a little more. Yeah, exactly. That could be a potential for a first play. You know, when I was coaching in Golden State, you know, we had all these shooters,

Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Kevin Durant, and the list goes on. But we used to talk about, this reminds me, we used to talk about the flying V, right? The flying V from the Mighty Ducks. From the Mighty Ducks. And we said, what if you just put four guys in front of Steph, right, in a flying V, and you just worked your way down the court? and a flying V until Steph got close enough to the three point line where he could shoot it. How would you guard it?

Right. And so this, Bobby, you could be, I still got a spot on my coaching staff open. You could be an assistant coach for me. You can't afford me. I'll be honest with you. At this point, you can't afford me. But I'm just saying if you have one of your shooters, everything looks the same. And he purposefully is shooting an air ball to the point where one of your big guys knows

it's an air ball coming, times it right, because that's all a rebound is, is timing it right. and dunks, when you use it, Coach, I just want you to text me and be like, I used your play. It was all. It could be in like, no, not even an ACC game. It could be like you're playing the high school. Yeah, Tallahassee High. You let me know because I think that's the play. Okay. I'm on it. Two final questions for you, Coach.

The first time you put on that logo again, was that a moment for you? Was it like a ceremonial thing? Like, I'm the coach now. Let me put this on? Yeah, there was a lot of emotions over the past few weeks. My wife was an athlete here too. She was a swim So everywhere we've gone, both as a player and as a coach, we brought Florida State with us. You know, our kids, my son last night, FaceTime me in his Florida State pajamas, which he's had far before I got the job. So really the most emotional moment probably with this whole process, wasn't the press conference, wasn't addressing the team.

It was when we got off the plane in Tallahassee. And Michael Alford had our athletic director was with us and our family. family, my wife, my three children, we got off the plane. And at the private airport, I don't know how many people, probably 75 to 100 people. The band was there. The cheerleaders were there. You know, all fans, some boosters that I know. And it was emotional. I don't cry much, but I was very close. And my wife's just, you know, full emotion. My kids are looking around, like, where are we right now? You know, like, we're trying to explain them what Tallahassee was. And they're walking into this, like, you know, incredible moment. And with the band playing. And that was when it really hit me. This is pretty awesome. You know, I get to come back home and put this logo back on.

It means a little more than a normal coaching job. You know, you just have a little more invested in the situation. So, yeah, it's been great so far, man. Bobby, I'm super excited to be back. One comment. Final question. There's a gas station, New York campus.

I'm obsessed with it because you put all the stuff on like a, the desk on the, and it just rings it up automatically. Have you been, you know that gas station? It's right there by campus. And you like get a candy bar, put a little water there. And it goes. It was like $7.11. Whatever it was like $4.29.

Nobody even said a word to me. And I was like, what the crap just happened in Tallah. So a big shout out to the gas station near campus. You're going to see it, coach. You've been gone a long time, but you're about to be reintegrated. And then. I haven't seen that. Yeah.

Trust me. That and the three point play, the two things you're going to remember me for. The final thing is we did a deal here. We were talking about if we could take one skill from any person and we just had it automatically. It didn't have to be sports, but I picked Steph Curry's ability to shoot. Can you just tell me what he was like to be around and watch him do what he does? Yes, Steph, there's a reason they've won all those championships. And a lot of people talk about his skill, which we can discuss here in a second.

But truthfully, as a person, as a human, he is one of the best people, the superstar or not, one of the best people that I've ever been around. You know, he knows, and he shouldn't. He knows my kids' names. He's been over to my house to, like, have a card game. You know what I mean? Like he's just, he's a good dude. He asks about Stevie every time I see him.

He genuinely cares about people. And that's what makes him so special as a leader of that organization is he, he invests in his teammates, he invests in the staff, he invests in the ownership and the community. And when you have someone as talented as Steph, to me, maybe the most skilled player in the history of basketball in terms of his shooting ability, his ability to score, his ability to drivel, pass, all of it. And then you add that to his character and the way he represents himself and the organization on a day-to-day basis.

Like I said, there's a reason they've been as successful. And there's a lot of people around them, the Draymond's of Clay's. Steve Kerr, of course, what he's built. But Steph is the engine that makes the car go. And he is truly, it was incredible for me as a young coach to not only coach him, but to learn from him. Shooting. You just shoot all day?

Is that what he does? He just shoots all day? You know, he's pretty structured in his workouts. He's got a great routine. He doesn't, he shoots a lot. Now, he shoots a lot. But he makes so much, it's kind of a thing. Once he gets into rhythm and he feels really good, he'll just, he'll cut it. But sometimes that takes a little bit longer to get to.

Usually it's, you know, 15, 20, 30 minutes. They play so many games at that level. When you're playing three, four games a night, you can't spend hours and hours and hours shooting like he did when he was younger. just with how many miles he's had on his body. But his routine, he might be, no, no, he definitely is the most consistent, hardest worker I've ever been around. But he also works smart.

You know, he's not just going to be in the gym for four hours wasting his time. It's a game-like preparation and focus and intensity to his workouts. That's truly impressive. Well, that's like me in this interview. I'm in rhythm. I'm quitting because I'm like feeling it. I'm like, why keep on? Right now, I got it all day.

This is awesome. Hey, congrats. It's super cool. I love to see people go home and do their thing. We're rooting for you. I'm rooting for Florida State anyway. I've got a lot of great relationships over there. We want to come. When you guys start next season, we definitely want to come and check out a game and mostly just get free gear. But still, we want to be there. So, Coach, congratulations. It's a hectic time right now, but we're looking forward to next season. And I hope you have a great rest of the week. Bobby, thanks for having me on. You're welcome anytime.

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But as soon as we land in Los Angeles, and it is a long flight. And, I mean, it's just about the longest flight you take from where we are. We land and we're staying at an airport hotel. I mean, it is right next to the airport. But you can't hear airplanes, which is kind of cool. That's a good point. I expect that you're right.

You're right. But I've never stayed as close to an airport in a hotel unless I was being forced to lay over in a city and they gave me a free voucher. Right. Like this is the closest I've ever stayed to an airport. And so we get here and we type in Hyatt because that's where we're staying. Yeah. There's like eight Hyatt. We didn't know.

So we go to the wrong one. And we're already tired, long flight. And we have all of our bags. We're Ubering. And we're like, we're here to check in. and they're like, oh, you're at the wrong one. And we're like, great. And then Reed goes, I lost my phone in the Uber.

It's bound to happen, man. It slipped right out of my pocket. And he goes, and I had all my phone catching pants, too. I do. I only buy pants with zippers, if they're not jeans, but like any kind of like joggers, they have to have zippers. Like pocket zippers? Yeah.

Okay. So not only am I having to find a different hotel that we're in, now I've got to track down Reed's Uber driver. And you're doing all this on your phone? One phone for all of this. We have all of our bags. I would have helped you, but you had the Uber app. Like, you had to do it.

I had to find the new place and find his phone. Yeah, I mean, I didn't have a phone. I couldn't help, you know. That's precisely the point. That's true, too. And not only that, what made it even more difficult is our driver was Chinese. And her English, very limited. Yeah.

So you actually talked to her on the phone, right? Yes. And she was just trying to, because I pushed the button that said, lost an item, please call us. Then she calls me. And a lot of times when you're in Uber, you don't have to talk to the person much. You can or you don't have to.

I would think when the language isn't the same, even if I'm in another country, you just don't talk much because you don't have to. No need. You're good. You can't. Well, but now we had to. And we weren't even looking at each other. And she was trying to read her number back

so we could save her number to text her. she couldn't understand me. I could understand her. We're yelling at each other, thinking that the yelling helps. I heard you at one point say, and these weren't the numbers, but you're like,

okay, you're like, Eddie, write this down. 749, 6. And you're like, you only gave me four numbers? What's the rest? So we're trying to drag down Reed's phone.

We end up having to leave Reed's phone and say, leave it at the front desk, and we hope that happens. And then we're like, Reed's going to give you a big tip. Oh, God. And so he did get his phone back miraculously.

I did. It felt good to not have a phone for a little bit, to be honest. I was also kind of expecting to have, like, some sort of, like, text when I got back, and I just, I guess nobody wants to talk. Oh, that's the worst. When you lose your phone for a long time, when you're like, man, I'm going to have to really respond to a lot of these messages, and you have nothing. I know.

I was like, okay, well, that's anti-climactic. We did get it. I went to bed at about 6 p.m. because it's 8 p.m. our time. My wife called me, though, it was like tornadoes. Yeah. And so I'm on the phone with her. We're both watching different news feeds and YouTube videos,

and she's got the dogs, and I'm here kind of feeling guilty. And so finally fall back asleep again, but we wake up to go over to Eisen's show this morning. And Reid's like, I had a crying baby all night long, like a screaming baby. You're having a bad trip, man. Hey, if you be quite, you might hear it right now. But I wouldn't think most people stay in this hotel more than one night.

I wouldn't think so. Right by the airport? Yeah, my theory is you only stay here if you're staying here a night. Unless you're us. My room still hasn't been cleaned in. It's like 4 p.m. Yeah. They're still working, though.

I saw them in the hallways. But my point is, if people aren't in it for multiple nights, it doesn't matter. Yeah. So they probably don't rush to clean it earlier because the people aren't staying two nights and the rooms that do get cleaned earlier, they put those people in first. True. So why would they be in a rush to clean the rooms if it's not at capacity? But Scream and Baby?

Absolutely. horrific. That's their door right there. I mean, if you're listening, you don't know what I'm talking about, but. It wasn't even the one next to the bed. It's across the room. It's like we share a room. Did you bang? No, I didn't. I kind of felt bad because, I mean, that baby was screaming for like three hour straight, and then it stopped for like an hour, and then I woke up at four, and it

was screaming again. And you could hear like blippy or some sort of like kids' TV show just blaring in their room that you're trying to get the kid to be quiet. Yeah, that doesn't work. They also didn't speak English, so they were like, yelling words at the baby in a foreign language. Because you could have help maybe if you knew what they were saying or what? Maybe. Like what's the context of that one? I was also kind of worried that, you know, they were going to harm the baby or something, you know.

So it must have been loud for you to be on the other side of the room in your bed and you're able to like pick up all this. I honestly, I thought it was in the hallway and I thought like people were making a commotion like about to fight outside. It was that loud? It was so loud and it was so frantic. That sucks for the parents though, right? Because they don't want the baby to grow.

Sex with the baby. Of course. Sucks for Reed. When it's funny, you say, like, did you knock on the door? Like, what are you going to do? Like, there's really nothing you can do in this scenario. Put in AirPods. I did.

I put in AirPods for about an hour and then got freaked out because I was so isolated. I thought I was going to miss my alarm. So I took them out. Huh? Like with my AirPods? I sleep with AirPods in sometimes. And you can still hear your alarm? It always stays fall out.

Does the alarm, does the alarm go off in the AirPods? Great question. I have no idea. We should test this. Because I put, well, I put. put one in, I sleep with one in sometimes. My wife has no problem with me playing a podcast

under my pillow out loud. Doesn't bother her. With the phone out, no pods, yeah. Doesn't bother her because I used to be, let's watch TV until I fall asleep and leave it on all night. So it's a win. Yeah, it's a big win. Compared to that. So she doesn't really mind it at all. But sometimes if she's already

asleep, I don't want to come in and like turn it on because I think it'll wake her up, as opposed to her falling asleep with it on. and so I'll sleep with one air pod in on my left side because I sleep on my right side for the most part until I go to my back, but it always falls out in the middle of the night. So then my alarm will go off.

But to be fair, my alarm never wakes me up, maybe once a month because I wake up two hours before my alarm, like nervous that I'm going to oversleep every single day in my life. See, Eddie was saying too that like, because of the time zone here, he wouldn't even worried about his alarm. In California, I wake up like at, you know, no alarm, I'll wake up eyes open six.

Yeah. That's a good point because we're two hours back. And it's such a quick trip. Yeah. So it's not been the easiest trip for Reid. He did say, though, that he saw the Kobe Bryant statue today. We went. Yeah, it was cool. It's really cool, man.

Like, that's pretty new, right? Like, I don't know when they threw that one up. A couple years ago? Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely newer than the rest. So it's pretty cool. And then there's a shack one that's really cool too where he's dunking. Like double arm, double hand.

Double hand. He's got his legs up. Yeah. He's got a ton of. sticking out. Yeah. And that one's like further back closer to like just the, it's over like the entrance. It's connected to the building.

Yeah, it's connected to the building, which is like really cool. That one's cool. And the Jerry West, Magic Johnson, which was funny to see Reed out there because he's just like, who's that. I'm like, that's Kareem Abdul-Jabar, Reed. I didn't, you could, some of those people you can't really tell, you know. You could tell who Kareem was. Because of the statue, but you're not a big sports guy.

Yeah, no, I wouldn't know. And then he goes to the hockey player. Who's that? I knew it was Wayne Grisky. Wayne Grisky. Yeah. So we had a little lesson. Well, we're out there.

Yeah. I was like your little child. Yeah. And Jerry West, though, he knew. He's like a logo man. Yeah. I didn't know that. Was the statue of him doing the logo pose?

I mean, it's not really a pose, but that kind of. I don't know if it's the exact same one, but it's just his, you know, his iconic move of he's like just going for charging for a layup or something, like whatever that logo thing is. If I did look to see the Dodgers do play tonight. The Lakers play tonight. too. Man, I don't know if I can do it. It's so late. Oh, what time do they play? I'm not to hear it's like seven. 30. Right? Yeah, but by the time you get back, it's 10 or 11, which is like one o'clock our time and then I got to get back. Not you and you guys do whatever. I told her read as I looked up tickets and like back up against the wall. The very last row in the arena is like 150 bucks. I don't know who's

been paying for ubers or food when I'm not around. So I sent both you guys 100 bucks. You did. Love it. Yeah, to your Venmo. So you can always go. Thank you man. If you want to, no, We use that to go to the game. I'm just saying you could use that because I don't know who's been paid. Dodgers are playing a night too, you said? Yeah. And that apparently is a nightmare to get out of. Oh, geez.

L.A. is, it's hard for me because I get car sick and I hate traffic. I'm not from here. I don't like it. So anytime that it's a difficult car situation, I don't like it. So I choose to not go. Sunday night, I wouldn't mind it. I think we could have gone to a game Sunday night. Yeah, but if you guys want to go, go, I'll just go to dinner with our buddy myself.

Honestly, this whole trip has been like, Reed, what do you want to do? Because Reed said he's only been to LA once, you know? We've been here a lot. And, like, Reed is like, I want to go to Venice Beach. So we. Yeah, you guys went to Muscle Beach. Right? That's Venice yesterday.

It's so cool, dude. It's like a movie set out there. People rollerblading. This whole town is a movie set. And in this town there are lots of movie sets. That is very true. That's very true. What's funny is Reed, I guess, since he was a little boy, he said he's wanted to go to

Venice Beach to see the skate park. Like there's, because at Venice Beach, it's got the beach, of course, but then you have the muscle part where it's like a just a big open workout area.

And then there are roller skaters. There are skateboarders. And there's like just a bowl, like big swimming pool like bowls like bowls everywhere. So skaters are doing tricks. And Reed's like, I've always wanted to come here. And he spent about 30 minutes

trying to find someone to ask if he can borrow their board so he can drop in. I didn't do it though. I would have dropped in, no doubt. I would have dropped in. He was on a mission.

Why did you go buy a board, a cheap board? That's a good question. I told you that. I could have. That had been a place that'd be worth it to do it. And you could have taken it back easily tomorrow. Dang. Return the board?

No, taking the board back. Oh, that's very true. Yeah. Yeah. Think about that. Because it's not like you have to check it or anything. Yeah. Crap.

Sorry, buddy. Man, but yeah. No, I mean, that's, dude, that skate park is, like, iconic. If you, like, grew up skating. you knew that skate park. Yeah. I didn't grow up skating. Yeah.

The whole place is pretty iconic. Like you walk out there and you're like, oh, I've seen this in a movie. Oh, that area. Yeah. Didn't you say they film White Men Can't Jump Out There too? Yeah. They have like the basketball court area. There's probably, I don't know, 10 hoops.

And we looked it up. That's exactly where they filmed it. Okay. Well, we are going to leave this part. We're going to put this part in the episode. And that's all. I got nothing else. I don't know I'm sure what we came on

Why do we come on? Because we're in L.A. No, I feel like we had a purpose. I think the purpose was what? I don't know. Talk more about Reed? Is that what it was? Oh, maybe it was, yeah.

We had the podcast to quip it up. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's what it was. And then also say Reed lost his phone in L.A. Yep. And then also that Reed. Hey, shout out LJ, dude. That's the guy I met at the skate park.

Dreads. He thought I was a local, which is really cool. Have you done this in California? Oh, yeah. I mean, he was asking where I was from and stuff like that. And he was like, like, you ever go to this one spot up here? I was like, oh, man, this is my first time out here. And he was like, oh, you ever try that California weed? And he hands me as blunt.

I was like, I'm good, man. I appreciate it, though. Wow. Right there, dude. I just let them have their moment, man. I feel like we should do at least one sports thing while we're here since this is a sport show. Fair enough. Should they ban the tush push? They're talking about it now in league meetings. Eddie? Your argument you made is pretty valid as far as just like entertainment value and making it dramatic and that doesn't make it dramatic. I think there should be limited tush bushes. I know.

I don't think they should eliminate it. The people that are upset about it, people they can't do it. But I think you only get X amount a game. Oh, man, I say just let it, let it play the way it is. I like it. I like that only Philadelphia is the one that can do it 100%. They are having league meetings now and that was one of the topics that they're discussing. I don't think it'll be eliminated this year.

I think that it probably will eventually be eliminated. Or they won't, because they don't want the Eagles to feel attacked, they probably will not say no more tush push. They'll probably say no more, and they'll do it role league-wide, no more grabbing another player and pulling them or pushing them forward. Because I could also be like grabbing somebody that's behind you and pulling them into the end zone.

Yeah. Right? Like I think they'll just re-evaluate that definition. And if they do the words like that, I think that would be good. That'd be okay. But that is, but that is banning the touchputt. It is kind of boring to watch the touch push, though.

I know, dude. But I also, you're playing Philly? Yes. I also, yes. I also don't think you should be penalized, though, if you think of something within the rules. Because it was genius.

They had the right, they still have the right personnel to do it. You can't do that without a quarterback like Jalen Hertz. You're super strong. That's not doing the tush push. Correct. And other people have tried. I mean, the bills kind of tried with Josh Allen playoffs.

Patrick Mahomes, they don't do it at all because he got hurt doing quarterback sneaks. So, okay, there's our one sports thing. in this segment. Read what would you like to say? Well, I just want to say how many tush pushes

do you think should be allowed in a game? One. Just one per team? Right. I would say this is one a half. I would allow one a half.

Oh, one a half. Or I think there could be part of the rule to where if you're inside the three yard line, you could get two and a half if it's within the same series. But I think just for fourth down, on like the 38 yard line.

Yeah. And then a fourth down again on the... Yeah. Which is what they do. That just gets to be boring. Yeah. Yeah. That would be how I would probably...

That makes sense. I think everything should be illegal, dude. I think... Illegal? No, legal. Oh. Everything. Like, PDs.

All of it. No. I'm like in... One player gets spikes in their shoulder pads. It turns into... What's the Mel Gibson movie from back in the day? Mad Max? Mad Max.

Oh my gosh. Those pads? No, like, you know how in Madden's... like at least when I used to play you could like take your whole team and push them to the left with just like one dude running behind like I think that should I mean I think you should do that I don't even understand how it would happen in real life though really I mean I just say everybody go left and then you follow you follow like the fly like the student body like that used to be the play like student body left it was everybody everyone you just run behind everyone yeah it was like old college football oh really yeah yeah it's wishbone kind of what happens but you're right if you can execute it hey man with Within the rules. Within the rules, let it rip. The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday.

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episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I did want to follow up on a story I said that I was going to tell an accent story. Because I was talking about being in Germany. And I referenced, it's a fine line in another country, even here on a microphone here in Where are you going with this? Well, I got to be careful. I don't want to get canceled, basically.

Okay? And I don't think I'm going to, but what will happen is I'll use Germany as an example. Everybody speaks English, basically, when you travel through Europe. Okay. And it's not like I'm a Mr. World Traveler. Only the last few years have I been doing stuff like this, this is kind of crazy. And my wife gets a bit irritated at me when we're in these other countries when they speak English and I speak English, but yet I still try to meet them in the middle. You try to speak their broken English?

Kind of. So obviously they have an accent. But they do speak English. Yeah. And sometimes not the best. Sometimes these verbs are in weird places. Can you do a German accent at all? Ooh, like a German speaking English?

Yeah. yes why are no yeah just go with that though just go with that so and ask me ask me and this is okay I swear to you this is what I do when I'm in places and I'm not doing it to be funny I'm doing it because I tell my wife I'm meeting them in the middle because if they speak in this accident and they're speaking English this is how they know it and hear it right that's their English

yes so this is going to be we're doing improv you're working at a hotel I'm a German you're a German at a hotel I'm rolling in with bags Oh, okay. And I'll go first. Hey, we're here to check in. What do you want me to say? It doesn't matter.

You're working the desk. Improv. Oh. Is this all the bags you have? Yes, these bags that I have here are the bags in. You can leave them here or we can take them with us. Have you already checked in? No.

Have not checked in. Donk. This is bad. This is what you were. doing this is bad. Is it? Why don't you speak English, man? Eddie's Russian, by the way.

I was like, dude, no, that's the point of it. The point of it is, I tried my best. The point of it is, Eddie, if I were speaking Spanish, but I don't have the accent, and I know Spanish, I were like, I was like, oh la, la, come's ta. And you talked back to me in, like, an American accent in Spanish. It would help me know that because that's how I talk in it. But why are you struggling with words that you? You know you're like, how do I say?

Like, you speak English, dude. Just say it. It's kind of why I pisses my wife off that I do it. Okay, okay, but I don't do it. How do you say? I know, I don't say how do you say. But I did say like, I think it's a, don't. Donka.

Donka. Thank you. Yeah, I did say that in there, but part of it, I'm like, I go to the room, don't care. good good thag but I do all my English in their accent interesting I mean that's that's kind of you I feel like I'm trying like I'm leaning in to make it easier for them because they've leaned in to make it easier for me right I don't feel like I'm doing now I will say this and I don't like this and this does not make me a good or bad person

and I don't do it on purpose but I also do it at Chinese restaurants oh no oh no I know Here, that's different. I don't mean to, but it's just natural that if someone comes up, I'm not going to do the Chinese accent. Come on. That one will get me canceled. South Park over here. But let's just say, I'll do Mickey Mouse, but imagine if Mickey Mouse were actually someone at a Chinese restaurant speaking in a Chinese accent. But speaking in English, okay?

They were like, hello, would you like some sweet and sour soup? and if you would, thank you for coming to the restaurant. And would you also like with your food, would you like some beef and broccoli? And then I answer back, yes, I would like to. But I'm only doing it because I feel like they know. Because obviously they don't have a full grasp of the accent,

so I'm trying to meet them at their accent. You don't think they understand you if you spoke regular English, though? I think, and here's the reason I, my answer is no. When I lived in Texas, my friend group, and Eddie can speak to this, I was the minority. Oh, we were all Mexican. Everybody was Mexican or black, but me.

And all the Mexicans that were my friends are Hispanics, but they even called themselves Mexians. We're Hispanics, but like, we're Mexican descent, so we just say Mexican. They'd be like, stop calling us Hispanic. I'd be like, well, don't we cancel? They're like, well, what are we going to do? Cancel you? We're friends. Good point.

And they'd be like, we're just Mexicans. Yeah. And so when you guys would speak Spanish. Spanish fast with the Spanish accent from Mexico really struggled. If you spoke it a little slower and

not as accented, I could understand it so much better. Yeah. So you're saying that if you spoke English regular like this, like we're talking real fast, my bags are here, I can go front desk, and they're like, and if I'm using like slang, I'm like, chill, that's lit. Right. That's green. Yeah.

I talk fast naturally as a human anyway. If I'm talking to them like this here. But I'm like, they got my bags up to the room. But you could say, like to that point, you could say, hi, I'm here to check in.

Yeah, but then I feel like you're talking to them like their child. Yes, and I felt like that too like I'm talking down to them. Yeah. Like,

and I'm already appreciative they've learned English. And so I think any of them were like, where's this dude from? Like, he's not American. Well, I think they thought I was a vampire

in German. Because my accent back sounded much more Transylvanian than German. I mean, I have to put on my bag. I want to suck your father. Oh, my God. So all I'm saying is I don't, I felt like I was doing the right thing.

It annoyed my wife. She would be like, please stop doing that. How would she talk to? Like a normal human. And then even at restaurants, she's like, don't do that. Don't do that. Because I don't mean to do that at Chinese restaurants. It's just, my heart is so big.

It is, man. Thank you. That's all I wanted to say. All right. Theme song out. We're done. Thank you. You guys have a great rest of the day.

You too, man. If I'm a bad person, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be. No, you're kind. You did it for them. Your heart's in it. It's right. You have the right mindset.

I'm misunderstood. Yes. That's what it is. Thank you. And thanks again to coach. And we will see you guys later on this week. All right. Eddie blows the whistle.

All right, we're out, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones, that's me, and performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports. Thanks to our crew, co-host at Producer Eddie, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, video producer at Reed Yarberry, and executive producer at Mike DeStro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.

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