The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Which Portal QB Would You Want + Kansas State Head Coach Jerome Tang + Toby Keith in Studio + Round 2 of Our Playoff Promises

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

After some big name QB's hit the transfer portal this week, Bobby talks about the one QB he would want for his team if they needed one. Kansas State head basketball coach, Jerome Tang talked with Bobby and Eddie from their visit for 'Too Much Access' to talk about a successful year 1, expectations for year 2, and much more! Country music legend Toby Keith is in studio to talk about being a big sports fan of Oklahoma and Arkansas, and the guys make their picks for round 2 of the broken promises playoffs!   Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @25Whistles   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberry    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's awesome. Love that. Yeah. So that's just a little bit. Are we talking with Amy? Yeah. We're talking with Toby Keith as well? Oh, yeah.

Okay, so we got a star-studded show. I will say this. I did lose because of the tiebreaker and the money for the broken promises. That was a close one, guys. So Trevor Lawrence did throw for the over, and they did score over, and so we had to go to the tiebreaker,

and my number was 26. Mine was 30. And they scored 31. Who is your winner. So Kevin moves on. It's just you three. Later on at the show, at the end, you each will pick three bets

and you'll draft your three bets. Got it. You guys are done. Okay. You barely... You let me survive. He won the wild card. And baseball,

wild car team comes in hot. I'm coming in hot. I got the hottest street going. That's true. It's home. So we will get to that coming up just a little bit. I got kicked off my PlayStation Network last night. You too?

Did they hack you? So, all I know is I get, I got a friend, everybody who's like, hey, I want to get in and be in your basketball league and then Reed's roommate wants to be in the league too. And I'm like, great.

The more than merrier. As long as you play your games, I don't give a crap. And we give away money in our league. Like, I fund it. It's just fun. And if you win the... You give away money for the league. Yeah, it's not a gamble.

Nobody has to gamble. Right. You give the money away. If people are good at being in the league and good owners and they play their games, then if you win a playoff game, you get 20 bucks and it doubles up until if you win the whole championship, right?

So I pay out a few hundred bucks every season. and every season's about every month and a half or two months. So I get on last night because I have like six more games to play because our season's over in like five days. And click, click, click, log on. And what pops up is you're not logged into the PlayStation Network. I hate that. And I'm like, oh man, it's like I don't even know my password.

Correct. So I got like figured out, forgot password, send it to me, change it, email, log in my thumbs on the freaking controller through the screen. And then finally I get my password. and I push enter, and I get this message right here. In bold red letters, it says, the account is permanently suspended from PlayStation Network due to violations of the PlayStation Network

terms of services and user agreement. Whoa, bad boy in the house. Exactly. What'd you do? He's a bad boy. So I was like, what was it watching me do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What were you doing, dude?

Exactly. So I, I, try again. The account is permanently, I get it again. So I'm like, well, crap. So I go and I contact customer support and I call them and it's like broken or something. Classic. What's broken? Customer support or PS5? Both. I get customer support but I waited forever. And fine, I'm chilling. And then finally I get somebody like, hey, you should go and submit a appeal. Appeal. So I'm like, cool. I go over to the appeal site and it's, if you're eligible, fill out an appeal. And I want to play Madden. I want to play NBA 2K. It's the only two games I ever play.

I fill out the appeal, fill it all the way out. I didn't do anything. I didn't put my balls on the screen or anything. Your appeals like, I don't know what I did. Yeah. And it goes, you are not eligible to submit an appeal at this time. Learn more about suspensions in the following article. Dang, bro. You did some really bad. Yeah. Yes. They're not even letting you appeal it. Correct. So then I go one other level deeper. And I'm like, I write a note. And I like, I don't know what I did. Like, why am I kicked off of this thing?

You do that in caps? I don't know. No, because the stupid controller, I think I run on all lowercase because I never went to the solid bar arrow to make them all caps. Because I wrote it with my PS5 controller. So I sent off this message and it comes back. Thank you for contacting PlayStation support. The PlayStation account details you provided to not indicate that your ban was due to

chargebacks, which meant I thought it was there's some sort of money type thing, somebody hacked it. But it wasn't that. We're unable to assist you further and recommend you visit our support site. Then I'll link me to what I just went through. So this point, I'm pissed. That's, by the way, that's what mine says, too. Chargebacks. Well, that means somebody hacked your account.

You need to call them today. Right. You need to call during business hours today. Okay. Okay. I'll try to make time today. Dude, you're telling me the process of contact. No, this is different, though.

This is different. You sure? This is 930 at night. This is not my thing. thing, mine aren't chargebacks. So then I went to, why is it? Why am I suspended? Like, what did I do?

Is it on the internet somewhere? Why am I? So I typed in account suspended, well, la la la. And it gives me this story. PlayStation accounts are being permanently suspended and no one knows why. Whoa. Oh, man. PlayStation gamers report being locked out of their accounts in games on PS4 and

PS5 without any clear reasoning. So then I find a Reddit thread where it was just a freaking glitch. I didn't do anything wrong And this morning I woke up at like 315 And I was like let me see if I'm logged right on Oh so maybe I'm fixed too No I doubt it Let me try that

Yours is probably charge bags Well mine was definitely charged back Yeah because people hacked your account I got hacked I got charged almost $400 Somebody went into my account They bought VC They bought games everything Like 400 bucks

So then what happened was my bank Contacted them and said hey These are false charges So we need to reverse those charges And that's what they call the chargeback Yeah, call them. Like as soon as we're done here. I'm going to try logging in again first. You can do it right now.

Do you know what I also read? Log on your web. If you can get it on the web, you can get it in there. Same thing, like on my computer? Yeah. Okay. I also read two bones that there's like 300 games that if you bought, they may be off your computer by the end of this year. Yeah. Our games are not on that list.

Yeah, those must be old games. It's like Pong. Right. Frogger. Yeah. The soccer. Contra. If you play Contra. Yeah. The soccer game you play with cars.

I think that one's on there. What's the one you... Rocket League. I bet that's not on there. If it is, I bet there's a newer version. Fantasy four? Fantasy... Something four?

Bro, I don't know any... Final fantasy. I'm not making fun of games or gamers, but I don't know games because I don't play a bunch of games. I play two sports games. And I feel like that keeps me a little bit manly and not nerdy. Yeah, Madden wasn't on there. 2K wasn't on there, so we're good.

So, we have five days. left in our league or you can't get the money for the playoffs. Right. Read? So you, hold on. So you expect me to do 100 games. 100? How many games are in the season?

23? No. Reed, how many games are in the season? 50? No, it's like 23. I think it's like 24. Yeah, I put it on short. It's always been on short, short season.

Do you have to play everyone or can you send? Everyone. You have to play them or you don't get paid. I'm saying, dude. You can sim. You think my wife is going to be cool with me doing 25 games? But you haven't fixed it. I got hacked.

And every day you're like, I'm going to call. I'm going to call. And you haven't called. Why don't your kids play for you? That's a good idea. I didn't think about that. I played two last night and one this morning. All right, boys, let it rip.

And also, don't wait till the last minute to play your games. Five days. I'd say that's the last minute. No, but you were locked out, but you just have refused to call and get it fixed. And what's messed up is I stole Dallas from everyone. So I have the Mavericks that everyone wanted. It's a big controversy. Oh, I remember that.

In our league where Mike signs is like, I'm not being in the league then. I remember that. And now I didn't even play my games. Dang, dude. You doubled down on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Because we're playing like 90s, the 90s. Yeah.

I think we're 2000s now, right? Oh, 2000s? We started 90. Yeah. So, and Eddie has a really good freaking team and doesn't play with them, controversial. And then Mike Science comes back in the league, because Mike Science is fun to have in the league. He's a fun guy. And he's like, okay, I'll get a team.

And I was like, okay, get whoever you want, because we all just get to pick a team. He's all take the Pistons. And the Pistons were like 1% in order to. have the number one draft pick. They get the number one draft pick, and he gets LeBron. O'Bron of the pistons. And the rookie. As a rookie, drafts him.

Dang. So stupid. I have, I drafted Dwayne Wade in the first round. I had a pretty good pick at, like, four last year. Your guy is Gary Zubiak, though, man. No, it's Wally Zurbiac. Whatever.

That guy is, you know, unstoppable. Jason, Jason Kidd is my main dude. Zerbiak can shoot, but Kidd is a big guard who can handle, can pass. Shoots a little bit, but Jason gets awesome. He's like a 95. I'm going right in his prime.

But yeah, like Kobe's, you can't stop Kobe. I don't have Kobe. Rates, who's your best player? Who has Kobe? Nobody. You couldn't get the Lakers because they had Kobe in check.

Probably either Mike Bibby or Chris Weber. Yeah, Bibby's good. Is Weber good? Yeah. I think Bibby's better, though. Yeah. He's been better for me. And how's your record this year?

Not too great. I think I'm like 11 and 7. Oh, that's pretty good. How do you lose to the computer? Dude, it's hard, man. Yeah, I've almost lost like four games. Really?

Yeah. You haven't played since back? No, I haven't played. You haven't played this new game at all. I haven't played, I don't know. Yes. Okay. What's your record? I don't know.

Like 16 and 2 or something. Ask him what his team is. What's your team? The Nashville nostalgia, we play in Steve Berkel Arena. And our jerseys have all the nostalgic things on it from the 90s that I created. He plays in the, do you still play Nintendo, court. Huh?

Yeah. That's our logo because it's the Nashville nostalgia and Nintendo logo on the shirt and then it's people love coming to Steve Erkel Arena

you know? Who wouldn't? It's nostalgic did I do that? Arena basically. That's my team the Nashville nostalgia. I like it.

But it was the New Jersey Nets. That's why I had Jason Kidd. What were you? Nibblers? The Nibblers? I was the Nashville Nibblers in the last game. Oh yeah, 23.

Yeah, because we haven't played a season we played one season of this. Yeah. But yeah, I was the Nashville Nibblers in 2K23. Gotcha. But then I had this guy with huge teeth. So it's like a joke like nibble. Yeah, yeah.

What the heck goes on in this. What I wonder is how long do you spend on this name creating? It just depends. If I wake up at 2 in the morning and I can't go back to sleep, I'm just like, well, I don't want to play all my games. I've shoot all my load. They have nothing to do for like two weeks into the month. So I'll just go like, let me just change my cord up or something.

So I don't ever set forth the idea of changing my team, but I have such sleep issues sometimes that I just have two hours to kill after I finish working on the show so I'm like let me change it up so I try to do the National Nutsacks but then I thought that you would have been really violating

but peanuts I was gonna do like peanuts right like it'd be peanuts by the National Nutsacks but I felt like if I ever because I do stream my channel sometimes probably not best for the brand oh right right right God that would be so much fun though

like my billboards in the Steve Erkel Arena well, the Nashville nostalgia, it's like I got NBA jam, I do ads for them, I do blockbuster video, like it's all incorporated. This is wild. What's wild about it?

It's like its own world. You guys are living in like a fantasy world or something. Like you have billboards and everything? In the arena, you know, like the scores table where it changes out? Yeah, and you get to choose like what goes there? Yeah. And you don't have to.

No, you can just play your deal. Oh, okay. But since I moved and changed my team name, I was like, well, and I slowly did over time, man. You know, Trigg doesn't grow in a day. nostalgia didn't just It took a long time for nostalgia That's true

Stolic Yeah it has to Yeah So, all right Let's go to the Tiddle Taddle It's time for With so many big names hitting the portal

Which quarterback would you want Coming to your school If you needed one Which quarterback would you want? I got a lot of big names I know I haven't seen the kid from Washington State really play

Cameron Ward But a lot of people have him Ranked the highest Off top of my head I would go with Dylan Gabriel He's the Oklahoma guy? Oklahoma, yeah. Yeah, and

played two years at Oklahoma, played well, not super tall. But my thought was, because Jeff Levy was the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma, and he was at UCF before that, and Gabriel went with Levy, and Levy went as now the head coach at Mississippi State.

She's got the job. Oh. And Will Rogers is gone. He went to the portal himself. So, I don't know this, but my thought was Dylan Gabriel was just getting out of Mississippi State. Interesting. So I'd love for Dylan Gabriel to come to Arkansas.

It's close. For him, he just drive down the road. Hey, I live here now. But if I, like, Tailing Green, who's at Boise State, is so dynamic that I think I would probably like to have him because I don't think Arkansas is going to get someone like a Riley Leonard. I thought Riley Leonard and still do think he's going to Texas A&M because his head coach is now the head coach of Texas A&M.

He had a visit with Notre Dame this week. That's the other one that they're saying. A visit. I don't know. You know what? Big bearded guys, he graduated? I bet he does go to Notre Dame. He seems like, I mean, Duke to Notre Dame, like easy transition.

But also Duke, his head coach, go. You follow your head coach a lot of times too. Yeah, he's gone. Yeah, Hoddy. Yeah, he's gone. Who? Notre Dame. Hoddy.

Oh, Sam Hartman. Yeah. Yeah, he's good looking. Yeah, he's only seven years later. He's out now. Yeah, he's 47. He looks at too. So if I got to

The kid from Georgia Who was the backup quarterback who was a five-star kid He may end up going to USC Because Lincoln Riley recruited him A lot of those relationships That don't Turn into something initially Like if you lose

The recruiting battle A lot of those kids go to that school That they had an almost run in with Which is pretty cool Or a relationship with the coach But Dylan Gabriel will be cool Kyle McCord is that crazy he's leaving. I know. But a lot of times too, I will say this. We're like, look at these kids in the transfer portal. Like how they have no loyalty. First of all,

it's business. They're trying to get to the place that allows them to make the best living and or puts them in a place to make the best living for the rest of their lives. Yeah. So who wouldn't do that? Everybody would unless you're just romanticizing the idea of college athletics is you show up. You go to class all day. You help the old lady across the street. You score a couple touchdowns. You do it again.

Or if you play for, like, if you played for Arkansas, could you ever leave Arkansas? If you're the starting quarterback at Arkansas. No. Right. Even if the money was better somewhere else. Do you have the same money I have now? Whoa, whoa, we're talking about college, college.

Well, if we're making stuff up. I want to have the same money I have now. I would be the quarterback at Arkansas. No, no, no, no, no. That's a fantasy. Oh, okay. But, yeah, the kid from Boise State, I was watching a lot of his stuff last night.

He's so good, that tailing green. He ran for like a thousand yards, passed for like 1,300. I'm making those numbers up, but that's what I looked at. That's what I looked at. Let me look at it more times if I see his numbers here. They had a heck of a finish of the season, too.

He was a game at the MVP. As you can tell. Oh, here we go. He finished season with 1,700 yards passing, 434 yards rushing, 20 total touchdowns, 11 passing, 9 rushing. Wow. Pretty cool.

Anyway, that's who I would like to have. Will Howard at Kansas State. He may go pro. He may get in the draft. He'll be a good one too. That's my answer, which there's not one. I gave you a really eight quarterbacks. Following the Heisman finalists being announced, who has your vote?

If I were voting, this is different than who I think will win. I think Jane Daniels wins. I think he's the best quarterback. So, Jane Daniels, if we're just a quarterback, but Marvin Harrison is the best player. Dude, he's awesome. when you look at Marvin Harrison versus every other

wide receiver he's 10 spots up these other quarterbacks are all around each other it's like who had a better game who had a better last few games Marvin Harrison is like that dude

but I think jaden Daniels wins the Heisman that's my pen and I also think there's a little West Coast a little slissy some of those votes between Knicks and Pennix

are going to be cut up but between people that are just going to vote for their West Coast school so because they're right there by each other. So I'm going to go with Jaden Daniels wins it, but I think Marvin Harrison's the guy.

And that was a very average offense with McCord back there at quarterback. And he still put up great numbers. I mean, so average, he left. He got into the portal. I know. Yeah. All right, go to the NFL with both team 6 and 6 and 6

and winners of 3 straight, which NFC team do you think has a better chance to make a run? The Packers or the Rams? Now, if you look at the schedules, the Packers, they got the Giants, they can win that, they got the Bucks. I'm Big Baker guy. Big Baker guy

This is a Baker podcast But I think they could probably win that And then they're playing the Panthers The Packers could go 3 in O If Jordan Love is even a shell Of what he has been in the last few weeks As far as the Rams They're playing the Ravens

Probable loss Commanders flip a coin Saints Probable win So let's say good situation They go two and one I think it's probably the Packers Just because of schedule

And also If I'm stock market arrowing Jordan loves an arrow up. And Matt Stafford is a stay-the-same arrow, but that arrow is just always a hair away from just breaking in half because he gets hurt. So I'm going to go with the Packers. But hey, don't sleep on Cincinnati after that win.

Yeah? Did you like that quarterback? Six and six. It was the first time I looked at him and was like, oh, he's playing quarterback now. It's crazy too because the first drive he was just like dinking and dunking. And then they were like, you know what? Just messing with you guys.

Here we go. Yeah. And maybe they allowed him. They gave him some more responsibility. But he looked good. Awesome. Yeah, he looked good. All right, one more.

At 6 and 6 and playing Kansas City this weekend. Do you think the bills have to win this game to keep their Super Bowl hopes alive? No, but yes, they need to win it because after this they're going to play the Cowboys. Oh, that's an L. For who? For the bills. Oh, I don't know that's the case. If they lose this one, they have to beat the Cowboys and the Chargers and then just kind of hope some stuff happens.

Yeah. If they can win all three, they're doing pretty good. But the Chiefs just lost, too. I don't see them winning this one. They can beat the Cowboys. They will beat the Chargers. They need to at least go two and one. That's what we've been saying the whole time,

to have a shot here. Don't you agree? Oh, yeah, absolutely. You can't lose. They're the 10 seed if there were 10 seats in the AFC side. And then all of a sudden, it opens up a little bit with the Jags and Trevor Lawrence. But, okay, so the last hour, red, and again, we're recording this a little bit before you hear it.

It's just an ankle sprain. What did you see about... That's all I've seen so far. His ankle sprain. Well, that's amazing if it's a sprain. I thought his whole leg was twisted up. Because, I mean, first it was the ankle, right? Because don't you think we should just protect quarterbacks at all costs now? I thought about this. It's so boring and terrible. I understand the whole boring factor, but that's the challenge of a football team as they go through the season. Yeah, that's great, but that's the challenge

that I, as the consumer, want to be entertained? I'm not entertained. I know you're always thinking about entertainment, and I respect that. Like, yes, it is entertaining. When are you not? Well, here's the, when it's your team, when it's your team, and you lose your season because your quarterback goes down, you're like, it's unfortunate. But it's part of the game. It's part of the game. No one's arguing it's not part of the game.

But when you make the game that much harder to watch and digest, you're not spending as much time with it or like this last week. It was a terrible. It was just a bad set of games. And here's because quarterbacks were broken, weather was bad. Everything sucked. But eventually, you know what happens then? Then people aren't going as much. Then the revenue is not as good.

People aren't buying commercials. Then the ratings are, and then everything goes down. The next thing you know, we're playing freaking flag football eight on eight. That's drastic. Hey. It's drastic. And I think the whole protecting the quarterback is valid. And I think they're doing a pretty good job at that.

But if you're a quarterback's going to step on your offensive line's ankle and roll his, what are you going to do about it? Yeah, they both got hurt. What are you going to do about that? Nothing. That's not my point. That's an accident. But I'm saying when quarterbacks go down, it sucks. So everybody that's like, let him with the freaking quarterback.

stop. Two-hand touch on the quarterback and then it's everybody else get tackled. But if he's running the ball and he does not slide, can we kill him? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, let's get him, boys. That's what I'm talking about. All right, that's the tittle tattels.

The stupidest name ever is the tittle tag. Thank you. 25 whistles presented by Draft King Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Download the Draft King's app and use the code of Bobby Sports to get in on the action. All right, boys. We're picking this part.

Lai. Who's seen these numbers, Mike? Nobody is. Yeah. Can you guys hear me? No, I hear you now. Okay. All right. Kevin's seen the number, so Kevin's going to bow out.

Okay. Eddie, you can pick a number one through 13. One through 13. Go ahead. Lucky number three. Okay, now pick one or two. Oh, this is like one of those little games when you were kids, you know, like, oh, flip to fold.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, one. Okay, you have the lions minus three and a half at the bears. Love it. That's a good one. That's our first pick. That's a good one. I probably take the bears.

Stop. Just because you want a bunch of smiles on the bears. Okay, Reed, pick a number one through 13. Nine. Now would you like one or two? I'm going to go one. You have the Vikings minus three at the Raiders. I like it.

Okay. All right. That's been pretty solid so far. Not bad. Have you seen the number? I'm looking at them right now. I don't know what they're looking at the numbers. Mike, pick a number.

Four. One or two. One. You have the Colts minus one at the Bengals. Oh, boy. Colts may make the playoffs, so they got new blood. Yeah, man. Men's shoes on a roll.

So that's our parlay. Well, it's very unorthodox. Lions minus three and a half. Colts minus one and Vikings minus three. That's out there. Three favorites. it's. If you want to take the 25 whistles parley, well, God bless you. Check it out on draft King Sportsbook. New users. Use the code Bobby Sports when you download the app.

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And not, it would be impossible. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

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We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.

I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, here is our chat with Kansas State Head Basketball Coach Jerome Tang from Manhattan. You can watch this episode on Too Much Access, too, where Eddie and I are balling it up.

Did you watch video? Me? Yeah, I loved it. It's freaking awesome. You've seen it? I've seen the cut that he sent me. I don't know. I haven't seen the final, final. I do honestly, I don't see the final one unless you send it to me until it's posted on Instagram.

I love it. I kind of like that. When did I send you one? You send me one of us playing one-on-one? Was it just that club? That was a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Check it out. Okay. It's up now. Okay. I'll check it out. Coach Tang was an assistant at Baylor for 19 years. Won a national championship at 2021. Wildcats went 26 and 10 in his first season last year.

They went to the lead date. It's pretty cool. Follow Coach Tang on Twitter at Coach Jay Tang. I liked him. I loved him. Yeah. He's freaking awesome. He was a cool dude.

Yeah. Very cool. All right, here he is. Coach Tang. Coach, first of all, thanks for having us. I mean, you have put Kansas State back on the map basketball-wise. Like, you were what everybody was talking about last year. How excited are you going into this next season?

Well, I'm fired up about the next season. But, you know, it's a culmination of a bunch of great things. It's Gene Taylor and President Linton having a vision and the courage to hire a first-time head coach and then a staff that believed in what we could do here in Manhattan. and then just the terrific fans. I mean, the energy that's in this city and just across the country for K-State in general is just second to none.

Being an assistant for almost 20 years, for 20 years or so down at Baylor, did you start to think maybe you wouldn't be? Did you pass up some opportunities? Like, why now? Because obviously you have it. Well, it wasn't that I passed up opportunities is just God closed the doors.

And I'm one of them guys that I don't, like I wouldn't be good in multiple times. choice. Like, you know, just give me one option and I'm good with the one option. And God made Gene offer me the job and this was the one option and I'm so thankful. Last year when you guys were just running and you're all over all the national press, did that feel like it was just sweeping you up or could you take time and actually, you know, acknowledge and understand it while it was happening? No, one of the things that was very important to me was for us to celebrate every victory. And whether it was a game, first time being ranked, you know, whatever,

it was. We wanted to celebrate. After we made the NCAA tournament, we didn't go break down film. We went to my house and we had a party. And we were going to celebrate everything and enjoy it because, man, I waited a long time for this and I want to enjoy every aspect of it. And our big thing is to do everything with love, joy and freedom. And that's what we want to do. Coach, I'm a coach too. I coached my nine-year-old son's basketball team. I always argue with refs. Are there any good refs out there? Yeah, the ones that are calling somebody else's game. That's what I thought You ever see a ref like out in the wild

Just random Have you ever just like bumped into a referee somewhere And it's not maybe good or bad or awkward But just randomly You know really just on all seriousness I felt like my 19 years at Baylor As an assistant allowed me to develop A different relationship with the Big 12 referees

And so when I became a head coach They didn't son me first of all You know I didn't I wasn't a new guy They had known me I felt like there was a great level of respect there and we have some great guys. You know, Doug Sermans gave me some great advice. He said, hey, coach, when you win, you run up in the stands and dance with the students. You want to show that you're really about it. Do it after a loss. And that's what I thought about when I went into

the locker room after we lost to FAM, Florida Atlantic. I went in the locker room because I remember him saying, man, do the great things in defeat, not just in victory. And so that inspired me to do that. Were you always such a positive guy? Man. And where did you get it from? Like, a My faith, my faith in Jesus Christ, you know, is so important to me. And, you know, it says that whatsoever you do in word or indeed do all in the name of the Lord Jesus to bring honor and glory to him. And so everything we do is about, you know, leading guys and leading people down the right path. And the greatest commandment he gave us was to love one another.

And so love is a big part of what we do every day. Your offensive philosophy, do you believe in the midrange? I do. I do. You know that philosophy of layup or three? That was only meant for role players. Like stars, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant, they shoot mid-range. And so I believe that, you know, we're going to have some stars on our team and they're going to have the opportunity to shoot mid-range shots.

Who are you looking for this year to really step up and be a leader? It's going to be a team effort, really. It's like Marquise Noel was a special leader, right? It was a special leader. I've been through some things in his life that allowed all of that to culminate into what took place in the NCAA tournament and his leadership skills. And I'm looking to have a number of guys on our team

help us move in that direction. It'll be more than one guy that replaces them. Does it usually happen from within? You say it's a team effort, but does a guy usually, or two guys or three actually stand up somewhere, some may be unexpected and go, okay, I'm now leading the team? But you know, what happens is that some guys lead in the locker room and then some guys lead by example on the court

and then some guys, it's those tough situations, right, that where you see it really comes. I went out at Baylor. Our last year was Jeremy Sohan, right? As a freshman, he was the guy who had the, were the best leadership impact in those tough situations, and everybody listened to him. And all of your years of coaching,

who have you seen that's an athlete? And you're like, I cannot believe they can run and jump like that. Rico Gathers. He was 6-8, 200, but probably closer to 300 pounds, but like 8% body fat. And he could just, just run and move and jump.

And it was just, he was a freak. And with his size, speed, athleticism, all that he could do. What about? I thought you might say me. I mean, I was literally standing right in front of you. You thought at me when I said this. You know, I thought about it, but then I haven't seen all of your skills yet. So I'm looking forward to watching these skills.

You're looking at the best skill right here. Just looking good. No, I did watch dancing with stars now. That's not skill. I have to tell you that my wife and daughter were actually rooting for somebody else. They told me not to say that to you, but I want to let you know. What's funny, Coach, I was rooting for someone else too. Yeah, well, Bobby Wong.

You know, the underdog comes through. There we go. I love it or hate it. The underdog's on top. That's why I say. So, you know, that show, it was all grit. I didn't know how to dance. I learned every single day.

I had to push myself to learn something new every day just to try to keep up. I imagine in your time as head coach, you've had players, too, that come in and maybe just develop a whole lot under you. And from freshman year to junior or senior year, they grow just exponentially. Who's a player that you would say has done that under you? Multiple guys. Torian Prince. He was ranked 25th in the state of Texas.

And when he left Baylor, he was drafted 12th in the NBA draft. You know, and that's a guy over the course of four years that just really developed and's had a great pro career. Royce O'Neill, who plays with Brooklyn Nets now. Royce was a zero star coming out of high school. And now you watch him guarding the best players in the world in NBA playoffs. And so we've had multiple guys done that. And on the team coming this year, Cam Carter, he's had a terrific summer.

I think he could be most improved player in the Big 12 this year. Last three questions. What's the ceiling for the team this year? We're going to Phoenix. Final four? Yeah. That's the goal. You put it out.

It's on the. That's why it's up there so they see it and know it. Yeah, yeah. We're going to Phoenix. Let's go. Cameras in the locker room, coach. What do you think? As fans, we love it.

we get to see the inside, but when you see a camera in there, like, what, do you even notice it? No, I don't pay attention to it. You know, we do all of our work in here when nobody's looking. So in the locker room, I mean, if it motivates somebody, you know, if you need, so what somebody does in the locker room to motivate you to play hard, you don't have that intrinsic motivation, and you're not going to beat us. Who's your mentor? Scott Drew, as for basketball and leadership, David Kelly, he was my first pass.

who hired me at Heritage Christian Academy as my spiritual father. What do you think about me physically? I've been trying to get to... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. No, I just wanted to review me. I've been trying to like... Well, look at him, Coach, you see me walking on the street.

You're like, I got kicking ball, or you're like, that man needs stop saying he's a kid. You know, isn't it like, there's a guy, like, see Chris? We're out of here. We're out of here, that's it. That movie star. We're out of here. With Kansas State, we're out of here.

Goodbye, everybody. I see the similarity. Coach, you're going to break down our shot now. Coach, you ready for this? Yep, I'm ready. Here we are. I mean, I can't believe it. We're already this deep into the NFL season.

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Eddie, I think you could probably figure out who the number one team is. Think about it before you just blurt something else. It's the 49ers. Yeah. And with a little room in between them. For the first time, there's a little room in between the first and second. Because of the last game. Because of just, when they're full and they got everybody playing, they're all healthy.

You can't stop them. It's hard to stop them. They're nasty. They are. So San Francisco's, a plus 310. At number two? The Philadelphia Eagles.

Correct. At plus 550. Now read, plus 550. Let's see. What does that mean? God, not to make fun of you. You got this.

But for listeners, because it's not like we were experts in this until we started doing this. I still learn as I go here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think this is a good exercise. So the Philadelphia Eagles are plus 550 to win the Super Bowl.

What does that mean? Okay. Well, that's your odds. So that's, I don't know the math, but I, from experience, I know that if I bet like $50 and I won, I would get... Why don't you do like $10? Make it easier on yourself? No, let him go $50. He's thinking about himself. That's what I do.

What he bets. Go ahead, read. I would bet $50 and I would win about $600. No, way off. $500? No. Okay, so if it's plus $5.50 to win $5.50, you bet $100. About $100, yes. Ah.

So, and plus means underdog, if you ever see pluses and minuses, plus is the underdog because you're making plus money, like extra money, because you're betting on the underdog. So if it's plus 550, if you bet $100,000, you're going to make $5.50. They'll get your $100 back. $6.50. Yeah. So, but just remember that.

So, Reed, if it's plus $3.10 on San Francisco 49ers, and I bet $100,000, how much am I going to make? Nothing to think about. It's plus $3.10. Okay, there you go. You were gasping too long. I know. Give him another one.

See, you learned it. I hate this. You got this. No, no, it's easy. It's very easy. Don't overcomplicate it because if it's plus 700, the dolphins and the chiefs are plus 700.

Yeah. If you bet a hundred bucks, how much you're going to make? 700. Yes. He got it. Now, if it's plus 700, and you bet 50 bucks, how much are you going to make? That's where it's hard.

No, not 250. 350. 3.50. That's half of it. So half of 100 is 50. Right. 700. Yeah.

So, but, but, let's say it's plus 700 and you bet $700. Ooh. Get the calculator. 1450. I don't know. No, no. So you just say,

I like it. You just say numbers. So we can get on with it. But if it's plus 700, and you bet $700. So imagine that for every hundred you're making $700. So that's $700. So seven times seven,

you're basically making $5 grand. Oh. Hit the bell. Is the bell ring yet? I'm ready for lunch. I'm ready for lunch. That's right. That's right. Like 4,900 plus whatever.

Oh, God. You guys are looking at me confused. I thought it was like 7,000. I thought you had a zero and we're good. I would, so if it's plus 700. Yeah. We can type it in to get an exact number here. So to make $700, you have to bet $100.

Okay? It's plus $700. To make $700, you just bet $100. Yeah. Okay. So let's say you bet $200. That's $1,400. Let's say you bet $300.

Go ahead. $2,100. $21. Let's say you bet $400. 28. Good. Say about 500. 35.

Say about 600. 42. Say about 700. 49. Right. Which is what I was saying there. Then the 700. So the plus is always the underdog and you'll make more money because you're making

plus dollars. Gotcha. Dallas Cowboys, Baltimore Ravens come in at plus 850. Jaguars a plus 1,000. Detroit Lions at plus 1,400. Okay, so let's do minuses because that's interesting too. Calculator. No, you don't need to calculate.

Yeah, I do. Mm-mm. Reed, if something is minus 140, that means it's a favorite. Anything that's a minus is a favorite. If something's minus 140, okay. What do you have to bet to make $100? 140?

Correct. Good job, dude. You have a bet more to make less if it's a favorite. And so it kind of does the opposite. So if it's minus 210, it's going to cost you $210 to make $100. or $21 to make $10. Does that make... You guys can easily understand that you're all smart guys.

Am I communicating it in a way that helps if you needed help? Yes. Mike, how do you feel about my explanation there? I got a little loss, to be honest. That's okay. Let me tell you, you don't have to worry about this. On Draft Kings, you just put the money in. Oh, that's for sure.

And at the end, when you win it, it gives you the money. It shows you how much you want. It's amazing. MVP race. Who's in the lead? Ooh. And it's close. The number one is in the lead, but just by a little bit over two and three.

Jalen Hertz is in the lead. No, he's at second, though. MVP? Christian McCaffrey? Mm-mm. No, but it's Brock Purdy. Yeah, well, how? Why?

He's the quarterback of the 49ers. Who cares? Like, what does he do? They're at plus 300. He had four touchdowns against the Eagles. Read. Watch that. Math time.

Brock Purdy is at plus 300. Let's say you bet $500 on Brock Purdy to win the high. and he wins it. How much money do you get? $1,500. He's got it, dude. He's on it now. You're going to do good. All right. Go make you make some money. At $350, so close, is Jalen Hertz and Dak. Tide? Yeah.

Wow, that's amazing. Two is it plus $700. Lamar Jackson and my homes is plus $900 and Tyreek and Christian McCaffrey. Wow. So there you go. And if I'd... It's crazy Brock Ferdies up above like Tyree Hill or Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. And if I communicated that poorly, that's on me. I don't think you did, man. You're good.

Okay, thank you very much. Hey, we're going to go over and talk to Amy. There's that series called Bye Bye, By, Barry, which is on Amazon Prime, and she watched it out of nowhere. She just kind of stumbled upon it. The Barry Sanders. Yeah. So here's us talking with Amy about Bye, Bye, Barry. How are you trying to blow the whistle to introduce our next person?

I mean, why not? We have a guess. We blow the whistle. Here we go. We've literally never done that. Go ahead. Amy's here from the show, from our show. And I have not watched the documentary on Barry Sanders. Bye-bye, Barry. Which, by the way, one of my friends asked me, he was over at the house yesterday, Ben, he said, if you watched the Barry Sanders documentary?

I said, there's a Barry Sanders documentary. I didn't even know it existed. Yeah, it's on Amazon. And he said, it's a very good, he's a very complicated guy. And it's why he retired. And then Amy said, have you seen it. And so we have different perspectives on even who Barry Sanders is, where I remember him, but you have no idea.

No, I had no idea. Why did you watch a football documentary? Well, I was on Amazon and stuff, pops up and then I was, I saw that he quit playing football like via fax or something and that was interesting to me. Like he sent a fax. Yeah, but it was also like 90 something, wasn't it? Right. I know. But still, the fact that he walked away from his football career at the, what some, I guess they called it the prime of his career and he was the best running back at the time or maybe even ever. So I was fascinated by that. I mean, I've watched some of the 30 for 30s.

that y'all made me watch, and I always ended up enjoying them. So it's not that it was just about the football. It was about, there was a story there, and I was curious about him. Did they talk about his childhood? Or was it mostly as an ex-offer? Yeah, and he played at Oklahoma. Oklahoma State. Yeah, his dad.

Big difference in Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, though. Yes, his dad wanted him to go to Oklahoma, and he went to OSU. And his dad was like, what? This is crazy because he was Oklahoma fan. So his dad was definitely the live. one, kind of the more vocal, wanted this for his son. And so much so that actually when he signed with OSU,

his dad, like, walked out into the living room when the coach was there to, like, make it all official at his house. And his dad wouldn't even shake the coach's hand and he just walked out. And Barry was like, okay, cool, so that's how this is going to be. Okay. The dad wouldn't even talk to the coach. That was when he was starting his college career. But I feel like you would do that, too.

Like, if you had a son, he didn't go to Arkansas. No, I would have. No. Zero percent chance. No. Because I would have killed him before we got to that point. Exactly. But no, but I, no.

There's no way. If you wanted to go to even OU, which is Caitlin's school, or if she wanted to go to OU, I would hate it, but I would still be there to support. My son, like, picked the commanders or the Eagles over the Cowboys. You don't pick your team. That's what I learned. The teams pick you because you got picked by the, or drafted by the Detroit Lions. and it was kind of like, oh, they weren't very good at all. Eminem's a part of the documentary.

At first, I couldn't figure out why some of these people, and then Eminem's from Detroit, and then there's the guy that was in Ace Ventura Pet Detective with... Jim Carrey? Or was he in Dumb and Dumber? Yeah, Dumb and Dumber. Jeff Bridges? Jeff Bridges?

Yeah. Jeff Daniels. Yeah. Whatever. Jeff. We got there. You know, the funny guy. And, you know, he could relate a lot to Barry

because as an actor, a lot of times. you can choose to be in the spotlight and want to be a part of all of that. And Jeff was kind of like, I understood he's, he wants to go out and perform and do his thing that he loves when he's on the field and he's off. He doesn't really want to be a part of that. He's like, that's how I am when I'm acting. He was a reluctant star, Barry Sanders was? Yes, very much so.

Like, that's why, I mean, I think that it was a bit much for him. Like, it was all overwhelming. Like, there was, he didn't want the accolades. He didn't want the awards. it's like there was an opportunity for him to, you know, I think this was in the college days, maybe. High school. High school, yes. Do you watch it, Kevin?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was awesome. So, yeah, he could have won this award in high school. And he was like, I'm not going to do it. Like, he would just bench himself on certain things. Because he was like, I don't need those nine extra yards or whatever to get some award. Like, I'm out.

Wow. Because he just didn't like that. And I think. probably by Ben saying he was complicated. He definitely, for being the star that he was, he just wasn't, he's not what we are used to seeing from football stars. Like when they scored touchdown, doing like some sort of little dance or wanting the attention or whatnot.

Like he just wanted to like go back in, do his thing. And for him, attention, he was just wired differently. And people couldn't understand that. They took it as, for me, I see it clear as day. I'm like just respectfully, like that's just his personality and he doesn't want the spotlight. And you're also watching the documentary. So it's clear as day. You're seeing in context.

He is a part of it. Yeah, yeah. So. I follow him. He follows me on Twitter. Really? Follows you on Twitter? You all should have him on 25 whistles.

Oh yeah, bones. Why haven't you thought of that? I mean. I don't know. I don't even. He used to follow me. I can look. But I don't know.

Yeah. He used to follow me, which is weird, which I never knew why. Maybe he's a fan of mine. I mean, also at the time, too. Zero percent chance. I think they showed some footage. I'll probably know this story, you know, because when I watch things, I'm blowdry my hair. Doing other things.

Reading subtitles. I'm like, okay, cool. But, I mean, I get the gist of it. And I walked away thinking he was a really cool guy. But it also was a time, too, in the 90s. Like, things were a scary thing happened on the field with guys and, like, concussions. and one guy couldn't feel his body. Who was that?

He got hit. Yeah, I was in the 90s, one of their games where he's paralyzed now. Yeah. Troy, Roklova State. Detroit. And was part of him, because I'm going to watch it, but was part of him quitting because the lion sucked, and their ownership group sucked,

and there was no chance to win, and the resources sucked that they had there? That didn't seem clear to me. Partially, but not, definitely not the main reason. Really? I always thought it sucked. Partially, because he does talk about, like, some players started leaving that have been there for a while with him,

and they started becoming free agents and then leaving, and then he was like, well, I don't want to restart this whole thing. But also I was researching some about, like, football careers. He was 31 at the time. Like, to me, how many more years did he actually have left? Yeah, that's good point. To make money. Let's not, let's separate the two.

Have left to play and make money, four or five, to be extremely productive, two or three. Yeah. Right. So, no, but you're talking about millions of dollars. I know, but he also didn't care about that stuff. Yeah, but no, your point was, but how many years did you have left? I'm saying because, like, I just feel like...

Because that does sound old for an NFL player. A running back at 30, you hit the wall, they say, but he was still running well. Oh, my gosh, she's the most agile person I've ever seen on the field. Have you ever seen me on the field? And, Amy, how many people have you seen on the field? I've watched too much access. Yeah. Do you still feel that way?

Then that's okay. Yeah, I do. I feel like, you know, he's, like, the zig and the zag, it's like all one move for him. She hadn't seen Walter Payton. No, I don't even know who this. Both are very fluid. Payton's probably a little more fluid. Agile.

I think Peyton's probably a little more... Yeah, they're both excellent athletes. Yeah. I just brought up Walter because Reid laughed at Walter. He never... His name's Walter? Okay, what do you rate it? Gosh, I mean, for me not caring anything about football.

I'm surprised you even click to watch. Detroit? I mean, like... Did you like the whole end of it with the Suns and all that? they sit down at the table. I don't think I sold it. Very end. What was that part?

No, I watched the end. I figured that would be like your favorite part because like a family. Like they have this talk and everything. Intimate. Yeah, I must have been in my closet. Carly Godin had to get put up. Okay. Never mind.

But, no, I give it four and a half out of five. Wow. Single episode or serious? Lions. One. One. Well, Caitlin like it? Clean swoop.

I think she will, especially because, well, I mean, she's Oklahoma. She's a big sports fan, though. To me, I didn't like sports at night. obviously really liked it. So I think it's more, the story was very interesting. And it also reminds you to have compassion and understanding for people that are different. Yeah, totally. Totally. Why are you laughing? I'm just laughing because like the difference between what your mindset is when you're watching compared to mine. I totally understand that. I'm not laughing.

Are you mad at him? Kevin's like, man, for me, I just like, protect your knees, man. No, no, no. Because it's like, get it together, loser. Just go play the game. No, I totally get that, but I also understand the fans that were upset, because I would have been upset too. Oh, yeah. Like, they were... Like, they were pissed. Yeah, that made me think of the David Beckham documentary of that one time. Yes.

That at the, when David got... I didn't watch it. Okay, well, there's this one game where David's playing for Manchester United and he got... I don't know, he, like, fouled a guy or got a card red flag. Is it in the World Cup? They lost the World Cup, but here's the thing. Now in the documentary, of course, at the time, you don't know that been the documentary. The player that he fouled or whatever.

he's like yeah it really wasn't that bad i played it up it wasn't bad however back in the at the actual time of the game since he got taken out and they ended up losing england was so mad at him and they were terrible to him i mean terrible the country the people yeah everyone everybody basically every single person in england like politicians like everyone like i mean it to i need to watch that documentary too yes dude oh it is good oh it's so good i thought because kailan watched it and she was like, you'll like it. And I'm like, you just want me to watch something about the Beckham's. So I only refused because I thought it was more of a family.

It is a little bit. I don't know about the family, but like celebrity thing more than sports. It's mainly about him and a lot of his sports journey. He's the coolest guy ever. But you get, it's cool to have a touch of the posh vice thing. But Amy, what I'm saying, though, about the Barry thing is like, you're right. Like, we as sports fans are just like, come on, like win or you're not playing hard or whatever. but whenever there's a real life back there,

there's someone going through something, or that's his personality, or there's a reason why he quit. I mean, there's no respect for people. Like, when Ricky Williams quit football because of whatever. He didn't want to play anymore. He didn't want to play anymore. He didn't want to play anymore.

Like, well, he doesn't want to play anymore. Leave it that way. Right. And that's where I think you just have to respect someone's decision for what they're doing in their life and know it's their life. And then know that everybody's different. Amen.

I loved it. Four and a half out of five. Calvin? I'll go to four. Only a four. Yeah, it's good. He's still mad, I guess. No, I'm not going to a little.

I mean, it has to be really, really, really good for me to give it a five. Give it a four and a five? Four and a half. I know, but she gave it a four and a half. You don't want to be the same. It's fine. It's fine. I, whatever.

I give it a four and a half because I, for me to care nothing about football and to be into it, at least until the last, maybe I didn't see the last five minutes, but it was, great. Thank you, Amy. Big fan. Barry, what up. Barry, what up. Thank you. There she is, Amy. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that

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Trust me, babe. on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we had Toby Keith in the studio, and we were doing this thing with him about his music, but we started talking about Oklahoma. I just thought we'd put this segment in because we're not going to put anywhere else.

I was surprised by something he said. I was really surprised about his fan, what he's a fan of. Oklahoma, I've always known. The other one I didn't. Arkansas? Didn't know that. He's from, his parents are from Arkansas.

Yeah, but I never, like, every time I see Toby Keith, it's like Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma. His thing, I don't know if he says it in this clip, but he was like, I mean, I guess if Oklahoma, everybody died from there, I wear a razor-rack hat. I don't think that makes him a fan, but yes, yes. Not exactly. Toby Keith is in the studio for the main show, but he's a massive OU fan. We talked about college football a bit, the Transfer Portal, and if he likes Brett Venables. You live in Oklahoma, right? Almost all the time, all the time.

So do you live close enough to go to a bunch of games? Are you close enough to Norman? I'm seven miles from the stadium. You are. My ranch is about seven miles. The stadium kind of sits on the outskirts of town, and I'm out further. What's been difficult for me being someone that is very much

from Arkansas and a diehard Razorback is that family, that not only are the massive OU fans, but they coach OU. Patty Gassau is the OU softball coach, he's won like seven national championships, and it's been hard for me to be a fan of OU sports, but I've picked the softball team I'm a fan of. Yeah.

can't quite jump on board with football quite yet. Yeah. You're a hog. Right. And my wife's like you should put on, would you ever put on another team's like shirt? No. Me up.

Now, I will say this. My mom's from Arkansas and my dad's from Oklahoma. So like I told you, I'm half hog and my raising. I'm all OU, but my second, if I have a second favorite team is Arkansas. And the first two or three football games I went to as a six or seven-year-old, My grandmother took me to Fayetteville and Little Rock to two different.

Y'all played two different stadiums. They still do that? One time a year. I wish they wouldn't, but yeah. So I went to Fayetteville and then I went to Little Rock. Saw Tech and SMU and the old Southwest Conference. So I tell everybody, Keith Jackson is a great tight end at OU, East Markansas. And when we see each other, we yell boomer Suey instead of boomer sooner.

Yeah. At the house, we do WPEC sooner. But I'll do that because I put Woot Pick first. Yeah. We have a mat that's half Arkansas, half Oklahoma. And my wife, she's not petty, though. She can go to Arkansas games and be like, let's go. But me, I struggle.

I could probably, if the hogs were in the national championship and I was singing the anthem at the game and they weren't playing Oklahoma, I could put on a, I'd be comfortable in an Arkansas jersey. You like Venables? I love Venables. What you like about him? He was here when Bob Stoops got the coaching job, and he was here for years.

and his defensive prowess I mean the guy's been around 22 years coaching at that level not head coach but defense coach he's he's played in eight national championships forward OU and four at Clemson and his number I mean he's just a great defensive coach we were in really really bad shape

he's processed like 65 players in the last 24 months that was on the last team and only two of the portal guys got power five deals. Everybody else went in smaller division. So we were really lacking on the defensive side of the football. He fixed that. You do an I-L stuff yourself?

Oh, yeah. Me too. Do you talk about it? I'll talk about it. You do talk about it? Because people ask me to talk about it. I'm like, I mean, I guess I will. But I do stuff like I take these student athletes

and I hire them to use their name, image, and likeness to promote things that I do. Really? Yeah, yeah. I just give them money. Oh, well, see, yeah, I have to, like, find a re-old. I'm kidding. I have a charity. I have a foundation, and we'll get them to whatever, you know.

I mean, you get them to do little stuff. Yeah, get them to do stuff for the charity. Yeah, they'll show up. I get them to show up at my golf tournament or my foundation auction or something, but they don't really have to do much. You know what's weird about that whole thing is just toothpaste is out of the tube, you know? you can't put it back. Yeah, I can't ring that bell for sure.

Four years ago, if they'd have just said, hey, we're going to give every player in NCAA 50 grand, they'd assign that immediately. But with the portal and that, it just makes it crazy. It is absolutely bizarre even, where players just moving all over the place,

even just shopping for deals. No one's loyal. No one, I mean, you recruit them, you get them on campus, you do everything you can, give them money, you get them education, and you have to recruit them again next year.

It's a, I wouldn't want that, job. I don't know. I think I'd take it, though. I still take it. I still be a head coach. Would you? Yeah, that'd be pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, we'd run wide open offense. We'd run, you know, probably. Have two footballs. Three tailbacks. I'd run two quarterbacks, so one that could also play wide receiver in motion, you never knew if he was going to come through and actually take the snap or not. Tell me, that's not revolutionary. That's revolutionary. That's like, that's not Lincoln Riley stuff. Yeah. But then it wouldn't work because I'd have no defense,

and then we'd lose, and everybody would laugh. Well, that would be Lincoln Riley. Yeah, that'd be Lincoln Riley. Exactly. Yes, yes. Thanks to Toby Keith, good to see him. That dude sold out those shows in Vegas, because he hadn't toured. He's been sick for a long time. Still is sick, but he's like, I'm going to go back and tour and did like three or four shows in Vegas. All sold out immediately. Amazing.

Yeah, so thanks to Toby Keith. I mean, I'm not a big OU fan, but hey, good for him, you know. Yeah. Hey, good for you. Let's do our promises. So three of you remain. You'll each draft three games. And one of you will not be around after this week.

I've been eliminated. So, Reed, we're going to let, Kevin, you can't go first because you finish last. Those two tied, but since we're going to let Reed go first because who cares. Okay, that's fair. Yeah. Cool, man. Reed, you get to go first. Pick your game.

I'm going to go Chiefs minus two and a half against the bills at home. Ooh. That game, I'm intrigued. You got the bills fighting for playoff hopes and dreams, and you got the Chiefs who haven't been playing that well. I think, though, at least went by a field goal. I would think that is what you would think since you picked the Chiefs minus two. and a half.

Yeah. All right, Reed's got Chiefs minus two and a half. Going over to Eddie Spaghetti. Bones,

the Texans are on a roll, so give me the Texans minus five and a half over the Jets. I wonder which quarterback plays for the Jets. You see they released

Boyle? I did not. They released Tim Boyle. Did that just happen? Yeah. So who's going to play backup then? Is Zach Wilson?

You know, because they're like, Zach Wilson doesn't want to play. He hates everybody. And I saw Aaron Rogers was defending him. And then other people

were like, Zach Wilson, while he was open about it. Who knows? Rippin. Oh, yeah. Remember old Brett as Boise State? Ooh.

I don't know, dude. I remember Mark Rippin? I think he's his son. So he's related to Mark. Okay, cool. 100%. Mark, I never liked the Redskins. Of course, not.

I didn't hate him. I just didn't care. Good call, Eddie. Right, son? Good call, dude. But Boise State, yeah. Let's go, baby. Nice.

Nice job, dude. See, sometimes, I like, I know random stuff like that. You have your South Carolina glove on today? Yeah, my kids stole my Kansas State gloves. Like, they took them out of my back. Got it. They were playing on the street the other day, and I saw them with gloves. I didn't think twice about it.

And now all of a sudden, they think you're cool with your stuff. Sometimes they didn't even want it. You'd bring stuff back and I don't want that crap. Right. Kevin, pick your game. I know they're rolling right now, the 49ers. But I'm going to go with the Seahawks, 10 and a half, plus 10 and a half. Divisional game.

They're going to play them tough. Seahawks still played good last week against the Cowboys. They're still scratching for a playoff spot. Yeah, so they're going to be desperate. Pete Carroll will have them going, so plus 10 and a half Seahawks. And it could not be more nine-er hype than it is right now. don't work out. Ding, ding, ding.

All right, so, all you got your first picks in there, read. Saints minus five against the Panthers. The Panthers are going to screw up and win a game sometime. And they're going to blow their number one pick. And the Patriots are going to end up with the number one pick.

That's my prediction. Yes. And that's all. But the Saints, God, dang, it's been bad. At times, the Saints are awful.

I don't know that I'd give five points to the JV team here at Belmont against the Saints. But you're taking the Saints minus five. Yep, we'll see that. Eddie. One of the best games of the year is happening. It's Army versus Navy. Oh, I thought you're talking about Dallas and...

No, no, no, no, no. Army versus Navy at Foxborough. Give me that, what is it, three-run option that they do? Give me Army all day minus three against Navy. Yeah, whatever. Triple option. See, if you just want to say nothing,

you wouldn't have lost your credibility for the Boise State. Yeah, dang it. But I do like that. I do like that they run that triple option. You got Army minus three? How do you not stop that? Yeah.

They run that every play. But you don't practice against it all year. It's totally different than what your team is used to running. Yeah, but it's going to be three. But we talked to a coach about that, didn't we? I was like, oh, in Kansas State. I was like, I hate playing them because it's hard because we don't practice against anything like triple option. Then we have to spend all week like learning a whole new offensive scheme.

Yeah. And even practicing against it's not like the game. Right. Game's totally different. That's so weird. Because even your guys that are doing. They haven't been doing it all year. You're practicing?

Yeah. They don't know what they're doing. You got Army minus three? What did I call it? The three-way option? Who knows, dude? Triple option? No.

You called it three. What? Yeah. Let's go with, I saw the Chargers play last week. They didn't look very good and they're still favorite against the Broncos. So I'm gonna go Broncos plus two and a half. That's a weird game. Because one, it's not like the Chargers have that much of a home field advantage.

Nobody goes. Exactly. And I do feel like the Broncos, they lost one of the last six. Yeah. When five in a row, then lost that one. I'm surprised that they're dogs like that. Me too. Hey, they must know something.

Oh, Vegas. All right, last pick, read. I'm going to go Navy plus three. Oh, I love head to heads. I love head to heads. You're doing the three-way option? Yeah, is it the three-way option that you don't like? What do you think the Navy mascot is?

Oh, dude, I don't know. It's like a whale. I don't know. Yep, the Navy well. A whale. Yeah. What is it an anchor? The midshipman?

Yeah, excuse me? It is it. Why aren't you just the seaman? I would not want to be called the seamen. Why not just be the seaman? No, because you know the pictures would look like they would draw? Yeah. It would be like we're like we're like we're swimmers and little swimmers.

It'd be awesome. Eddie? Okay, everyone's a pansy. They want to stay away from this game. Give me the Cowboys, baby. The Cowboys minus three against Philly. Kevin, last pick. You know what?

I went two dogs. Let's make it three. Three dogs. Rams plus seven at Baltimore. Okay, so here's going to be the tiebreaker, guys. Write your number down. Wow, wow. Write your number down here.

We're putting this out on Wednesday, right, Mike? Correct. So this is today we're recording this. We're about to go to Arkansas and to Kansas. But the Thursday night game, total combined score of the two teams will be the tie breaker. So we'll already have the tie broken by the time the bet start. Okay. Total combined score.

Total combined score. It's the Patriots and Steelers. I believe this is the lightest. under of the over under the year when I was looking at it earlier it was like 30 something I think it was 30 last time I saw so the over under is 30

but I'm talking about total combined score which is what the overrunner really is Patriots and Steelers write your answer down so you guys don't look at each other I got mine already okay read you in um

yep kick off Kevin yep Okay, let's go over to Reed. Read with your total points. Total points. 24. Eddie?

33. Kevin? 23. Oh, so, so here's what it is. You got a little margin there. Kevin has zero through 23. Reed, you have, what do you have 24? What do you have?

24 through 33. No, no, you don't have 24 to 33. You don't. Eddie, what do you have 33? Oh, boy, I have 33. Okay, Reed, you have 24, 25, and 26, and 27. Oh, yeah. Eddie has 28.

Okay, hold on. And you have 28. Yeah, you have 28. So you have 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28. Eddie has 29, 30, 31, 32, 32, 33, 34 and above. And above. So you have 29 and above, Eddie. Including 100.

You really think they're going to score over 30 points? I do, I do, yes. So Eddie, you have 29 and above. Kevin, you have... Zero through 23. And you have that little gap there in the middle. It's a pretty fat gap. It's a healthy gap of numbers.

But that's tough. That's a tiebreaker. That's just a tiebreaker. tie. Whoever wins the most bets, the two people move on. The last place person sucks. Okay. Let's go, baby. All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. Eddie's complaining. We're about to head to

Fayetteville. We're going to go do too much access there with the basketball program. And then we're going to go to Wichita, Kansas, and do Wichita State tomorrow. But he's like, how can I play basketball when I can't even move? I'm so sore, dude. Yeah, I'm so sore, dude. I'm so sore. Hey, we were maxing out yesterday. Eddie's getting really strong. Yeah? Thanks, man. But I don't want to take away

from what Bones was maxing. I don't want you to be weirded out by this, okay? He's looking strong, how? While I was talking to my mom on the phone the other day, and she's like, hey, is Eddie losing weight? And I said, it's your mom or your stepmom? No, my mom, calm down. Not Leah.

My stepmom loves Eddie. It dimples. No, my mom's like, Eddie looks good. So it's working. And he's getting strong. Yeah. What are you maxing? What are you maxing?

When we just started, we started working out, because Eddie, I had a bit of a background in working out of my trainer and for a, a year and a half before he joined. So it was definitely different. And I would do, we'd do the same exercise, but I'd do a little heavier weight. But Eddie's closing the gap a little bit.

Like there are certain things even yesterday where we're doing these squats. We do front squats and then back squats right, boom, boom, back to back. And in the second half of the sets, Eddie did the same weight I did. I was proud of him because he works hard. It sucks.

It's crazy. Even if I'm like 20, 25 pounds behind you, as soon as I get to that level, it's a whole different ballgame. And I'm like, oh, I'm not there yet. I'm so close, but I'm not there yet. And you can do that like a normal workout. I wouldn't say a breeze, but a normal workout.

That's kind of, that's your weight. That's what you do it at. When I try to match you, I'm like, oh, I'm giving it everything and I still can't get there. He goes hard, though. Eddie goes hard. That's good. I need to come check this out one time. You should.

Well, we do all kinds of different stuff. Yeah. But, um, so what did you max, bones? 235 or something? For what? What are we talking about? I just lifted. It might have been 245.

We finished. We did a whole workout. And I was like, let me just see. We'd already done a heavy bench press day. and I was like, let me just see what I can do. Oh, bench? Yeah. That's solid, especially after a workout.

This is the end, the end of the workout. Nice. We weren't, and our trainer doesn't like to do one rep benches because he's like, that's how you get hurt, but I was like, come on, man, eighth grade, let's do it. Eighth grade, let's do it. And so, yeah, I know, I got one, I know for sure I got 230.

I don't think I got $2.45. I appreciate you saying that. I think I was. I think he had to give me a little help on that, so I didn't count it. But I got $2.35 at the end of a workout. That's pretty happy with myself. That's good. Only weigh 175.

Is it safe for your weight? That's really good. Kevin, where do you fall on that assistance? Like, just, I'm talking just like a little assistance. Any help, it doesn't count. Any help it doesn't count. Yep. Okay.

It's, yep. Yep. So, yeah, I agree. Yeah. But anybody's doing like reps of five of like 175. I'm telling you. He's going.

There's some crazy balls in your legs, dude. Excuse me? You guys are guys, like balls in your pants, man. What, Reed? Those balls right there? What are you talking about? Hope you guys have a great. week. We are, this is probably it for the week, right? Yeah. Okay.

I'm thinking about Eddie's balls now. I mean, what's he talking about? We're going to go, hopefully not get hurt. I have a charity show in Florida. Eddie's going to, too. I forgot, we're all going to be together for the next couple days. I guess we're dropping you guys off tomorrow, right, Kevin, Mike? Yeah. And then we continue to go down. I thought we're just jumping out. Parachutes. I guess you got a parachute. I'm ready. All right, you guys follow us at 25 whistles. Good luck to you guys on your bets. Thank you. And good luck to the Cowboys with the Eagles. The Eagles are coming off a shame game, though.

So what do that mean? They're going to play harder. Yes, you hate coming off a shame game. The Patriots and Steelers tomorrow and I couldn't give a crap. It's going to be terrible game. Sorry, Kevin. I hope you lose because you do have a chance to get the number one pick now. Yeah, we got to go for it all now.

You'll at least get a top three pick if you just keep losing. That's awesome. Yeah. Keep it going. Let's go. It is because if you're going to lose, lose big and get a great pick. I haven't had one since, like, what, Bledso was number one and 91, 92. So I was one.

So not in my lifetime, really. I haven't had no one pick. Because you guys have been good. So we're not going to feel sorry for you. Oh, I wouldn't. It's a good thing. You know what you did in those years? You won Super Bowls.

It's crazy. Yeah, six of them. Yeah, you don't got to remind us. Okay. I hope that Jacksonville is able to play decent. It's an ankle sprain, right? Like a high angle sprain? Yeah.

He's going to play? I don't know. But it's not broken. I doubt he'll play this game. Yeah, no way. But I hope he's able to hop back. It sucks when the quarterbacks can't play. It's happening.

It's way too common. But Eddie's like, hit the quarterback. Don't even give them pads. I'm like, shut up. We agreed. We agreed. If they're running and they don't slide, we kill them. Well, yes.

That's on them. If they're running and they don't slide, that's on them. And actually, I did see one of those, you know, where they mic a player up, whatever. And Dak was talking to a referee right before the game. And the refs says, hey, man, hey, don't forget to slide. Let's get that slide down. And Dak's, I don't know, of course, of course, man. I don't want to die out there.

And the refs are reminding the quarterback. Dude, don't be stupid. Slide. I think the Bengals beat the Colts. I almost took, though. I'm a big believer. Big, what's the guys name? Brownie? Browning?

Browning? I'm big believer. He's going to do it. He's going to lead him in championship. Who that? Who day? Who day? That would be fun.

All right. We'll see you guys. Bye, buddy. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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