The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Why Bobby Leaves His Wifes Packages at the Front Door + NFL Legendary WR Larry Fitzgerald on His Most Memorable Catch + Update from Reid in St. Louis!

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

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Bet must win to receive bonus. bets which expire in seven days minimum odds required for additional terms and responsible gaming resources see dkng.com slash audio limited time offer everybody welcome to the show my kidd us with that whistle thank you very much uh another episode 25 whistles we'll talk to larry fitzgerald coming up more importantly we'll talk to read more important i mean that's the star yes read our old buddy read who the people have demanded that we talk with read okay so i want to start with a couple things. One sports thing, one not sports thing. Kurt Signetti did sign back

with Indiana. He's not going to go to Penn State. He's not going to go to anywhere else. About $12 million a year. So I'm surprised to see him say. I thought he would go. It's not like he has a massive love for Indiana. He's been there a year and a half. But I think he sees the Big Ten. He can win there

and they're going to pay him $12 million a year. Signetti's going to stay and not go to Penn State, which I found to be interesting. Kevin, you? Yeah, same. And that number is high. I was looking that would make him what, the third highest paid coach. But yeah, I'm very surprised that he's saying with them. Especially with the highest.

There's going to be some jobs opening. Let me guess the highest. Okay. I'm going to guess is Kirby Smart. Yep. Second? You want to guess again? Yeah.

Caitlin DeBoar. No. Where's he fall? Dore is seven. Okay. I'll let me take one more guess. It's going to be SEC or Big Ten. I would think.

I don't think it's going to be Ryan Day. I don't think it's going to be Dan Lannning. So, and that's Ohio State and Oregon. Brian Kelly, LSU. No. Is it Dan Lennon? No. Who is it?

Ryan Day. Oh, really? Yeah. They get in for like a few bucks. Yeah, I know. I'm surprised it. And then third will really surprise you. What?

Lincoln Riley. That makes sense. I'd pay a bunch for him to get out of Oklahoma. I mean, the money, I guess, you're like, yeah, it's USC and Lincoln Riley. But the wins, it's like, oh. Yeah. Well, listen, they may actually make a run at it this year. They may actually make the tournament.

Yeah, big one this week, Notre Dame. Yeah. Where would you rather play? USC or Notre Dame? If you got to play ball in one of the... Oh, you say... That's easy. Notre Dame.

Oh, you said Notre Dame. You're a Southern Cal guy. I thought he'd say USC as well. Yes. No, I grew up actually, I didn't like. I've never liked USC. I picked Notre Dame as well because I feel like it's a bigger deal there. USC, you're one of 7,000 teams,

and you're 638th on the list. Because college sports, not really, not really the show in Los Angeles or New York or the Northeast. Like, if you're going to go and, you're playing the Midwest

or in the South, the Southeast, that's where if you're a big man on campus, you're kind of big man everywhere. So I hate the cold, so I had to factor that in. Yeah, that's a cold. Yeah, me too.

I was surprised too when I picked it. I was like, dang, look at me. Right after you picked it. Yeah, it's like, ah, how about me? Hey, who's the favorite in California? Like, the biggest, oh, USC. Yeah, they're like the most Yeah

Like the biggest fan base Yeah USC. UCLA is the little brother Yeah, what other teams are They're Stanford They had their little run With Harbaugh

And that was about it And there's Cal Oh no Fresno State? Fresno State's a You know They're an underdog That everyone likes

Have you seen The Carr brothers In their podcast? No I didn't even know They had the one David and Derek Carr Do a podcast

Together And I was watching clips of it I've not watched the podcast. I've not listened to the podcast. I've only seen clips. And Derek Carr is the younger. David Carr was the one that was drafted. It was a Texan. Yep. First overall pick. Were they both the first overall picks? No. Derek was second round pick, I think. Well, okay. So, uh, the older brother is a giant. Like, he's so jacked. Yeah, I remember he was big. I, I don't think I even knew what he

looked like. Good looking, dude. Oh, yeah. Like, way better looking than Derek. Great hair. Great hair. He's got. Great hair. Massive muscles. He does look like a model. Yeah. And then Derek, not so much. Not a bad looking dude, but not like...

You just say that in a way of like, you're superior. It's just like, dude, David Carr was like... Put your chin strap off your mouth. Yeah. I don't know if it can come down. It'll come down. You can tell somebody's never put on a helmet before. Tightened it.

Bottom, bottom. Bottom one. Eddie's wearing his Dallas Cowboy helmet. I've got all my... You can't. It's not like one of those snap one. No, no. It's snapped.

But you can figure it. It doesn't matter. Here, there you go. Let's do that. He's like good. Is that a choker now? No, dude, what I'm saying is David Carr was just a good looking dude. And I remember that like when he started, when he got drafted.

And then Derek Carr, I've just always been like, yeah, I'm a normal looking dude. Well, check out their podcast. Okay. At least just to look at them. Were they both Fresno? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Because the older brother is, looks like a professional bodybuilder. he still looks like he's like 30 years old he didn't play very long right yeah I don't know him and Matt Chob just ran together oh that's right yeah that's fair I think Carl won a Super Bowl though

with the Giants as a backup nah does that count though can you can you claim I mean I think you can claim you're on a Super Bowl team I don't think you can claim you won a Super Bowl if you didn't start

you're on the team you won the Super Bowl you got the ring yeah we want okay I was on the chain oh it's tough I want you know you can say, I won the Super Bowl.

I won the Super Bowl. That sounds like a weird thing, though, if you didn't even play and you say, I won the Super Bowl. But you're part of 53. That's crazy. We won the Super Bowl that year. But like, okay, but if you're a staffer for that team and they give you a ring, you didn't win the Super Bowl. No, well, you didn't play.

If you're a backup, I think you can say we won the Super Bowl that year. Not I. I think you can also say, I'm a Super Bowl champion. There you go. But I don't think you can say, I won the Super Bowl if you didn't play. What did you do in the Super Bowl? Oh, you can say I'm a Super Bowl champion? Yeah.

I feel like that's saying I won the Super Bowl. No, because you won the Super Bowl. I mean, you had something to do with the winning of it. Which you didn't because you were just a backup. But you were prepared and ready to go. And you practiced. Scout team. Yeah, I hear you.

That's a tough one. It's weird to hear as a backup that they won the Super Bowl. They were part of a Super Bowl champion team. Also, this is a dumb rule that I hear nothing about. Like, I've already spent too much time talking about it. We're still in the cars, by the way, for some reason. I was, we were doing the show from my house. We're doing a little later on Thursday than we normally do because of the

Larry Fitzgerald interview that you're going to hear. And that was an afternoon thing. So we're just going to meet up here and do the show. And I ordered a smoothie. And I went and I grabbed it. And my wife had some packages on the front porch. And so I got my smoothie. And then I left the packages on the front porch and I went back inside.

Which leads me to the question of, I didn't realize I did it, but I do it a lot. Do you ever look and see who's packages they are? And if they're not, you're just leave them out there, even though you're out there? Yep. Yeah. Okay, just making sure.

All the time. No, I always grab them. Oh, yeah. Always. and then I'll throw them like at the bottom of the stairs or on the countertop or something. Yeah, no, I don't even touch them. That's mature of you, Kevin. I do the same thing as you.

I'm like, no, no, no. Sometimes I will grab mine. If there's four and I have one, I will reach through. Oh, man. Get mine. Take it inside and leave the other three out there. And my wife will go like, hey, there's some packages on the porch. And I'm like, oh, yeah, any of mine?

No, because I think you already took yours off and left mine out there. That's funny. You don't do it that way? Well, I even do it with groceries, which crazy. Like, my wife will order groceries, and I'll see them, and I'll just go to the garage and act like I didn't see him. Just because who wants to put all groceries away? I understand the grocery putting it up thing.

But for me, I have to do nothing except take them from outside and put him inside the door. I know. Like, it's six. I just have to bend down. I don't even want to do that. If they're not mine, there are times I'll walk through because we have glass, not on the door, but on the sides of the door. There are times I will walk out.

I will bend all the way down and, like, get down near it and not be outside. But look, I put so much work into. seeing whose packages they are. You could have gotten them. Then I could have easily opened the door and just brought them in. But I'll look at me like, Caitlin, Caitlin, Caitlin. Yeah, not for me. What about the mail?

Do you go get the mail? Do you get the mail? We don't get the mail here. Oh, no mail at all? Just junk mail. Wow, that's amazing. Business manager gets all the mail. So who gets rid of the junk mail?

Or is it just all pile? Well, so every once in a while, so every once in a while I order something from eBay, that are coming to mail. So that's funny you ask because what will happen is if something, is expected in the mailbox, I'll go down, and it's just jam-packed full of bunch of papers. Brochures. Coupons.

Yeah. All of that. So, yes. So that's the answer to that. Who gets the mail? Us, if we've ordered something like to the house that's not, but everything gets delivered to the door now for the most part. Yeah.

Amazon, even like the big stuff. Postal service, if they can't fit it in the mailbox, they'll just drive it up and drop it on front of the house. Yeah. So I think 95% of the stuff gets dropped off at the house. but if there is something and I got to go down, I know that I got to wait through a bunch of crap mail to get to the one thing.

And then sometimes I just leave it in there. Let me ask you guys a question about the mail. So, like, my son parks on the street and it's right by the mailbox. He doesn't cover the mailbox because I've told him do not cover the mailbox. Cover it like park in front of it? Yeah, like park in front of it.

But the mailman, I've been out there when he comes in and he has to cut the corner and barely get in front of my son's car to deliver the mail. And I've told him, dude, I'll tell my son to move that car if it's a problem. He's like, eh, it's not a big deal, man. Sometimes he has to get out of it. Get out of his little truck and then deliver the mail. But he's vocally said, not a big deal.

You're good. I think it's probably not unless it's raining. And then it's probably annoying. Yeah. But I think it's fine. I mean, you know how many times he does that a day probably? Yeah. But that's so annoying.

He has to throw it in part. But I guarantee you he doesn't think about your kid's car ever. Like, he's like, just another one. Another one. I'm sure there are people that cover their mailbox up all the time. So that's probably what you've told them. Yeah, that you've tried to keep him out of the way. Yeah.

I just feel bad every time I see him do it. It's a good guy of you, dude. Yeah, you're just a quality human. Thank you, man. Thank you. Way better than me. I thought you were going to say with the groceries that you'll see the groceries and you only go pick out a couple of things that are yours.

No, no, no. I get like the milk only. You don't have like a, you bring them in and she puts them away or anything like that. You just avoid them all together? I avoid them. And then if she's not home, she'll call and be like, hey, have the groceries been delivered? Oh.

And then I have to play dumb and be like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't go check. But then you have to go get them. Once that call comes in, I have to get them and put them away. What if you noticed though there's something like milk? Yeah.

They could go bad if you still ignore. I played dumb. Dude, one time I did that and she had ground beef in there. And she was gone all day. And so like. But you knew it was beef? I didn't know. I didn't know it was in there at the time.

Got it. So when she came home like hours later and came back, she's like, dang it. There's ground beef in here. I forgot. There's so much. Like, it can't be good. And I was like, oh, I wish I would have known. I wish I would have known that was out there.

I would have gotten it. Eddie has a funny theory about Harrison Bucker, the kicker for the Chiefs. Oh, you have to agree with me on this. Something's going on in his personal life. Why? Because he's missing extra points. Are you thinking of Justin Tucker here? Yeah.

Is that what we're leading to? Dude, Justin Tucker was 100% until stuff started going wrong in his personal life. Yeah, but don't you feel like young Hokku? you think he's got something going on? He got release. He's had problems. Like, what kind of problems? DWI problems.

Really? I don't know if that's true or not. Oh, man, I hope I'm not making that up. Yeah. I have not heard that. I swear I remember a few years ago, he had to miss some games because of that. And like,

gosh, maybe he was someone else, dude. Well, we can look. We can look it out. Okay. But yeah, I mean, come on. Like, Harrison Butker, same deal. He didn't miss. He's missing extra points.

Not 40-yard field goals, 50-yard field goals. Extra points. Okay. But... Check his phone. What if it's just like a toe? What if it's just something...

He just injured. But they're not saying that. Like, if they're injured, they're injured, right? Like, they'll just be like, we'll find another kicker to replace them. Yeah. What do you find on... Back at Georgia Southern, he got a DWI. In 2015.

Hey, Eddie remembers all. No further question. Except when groceries are to be delivered. He remembers the kicker at Georgia Southern 11 years ago, but he does not know when beefs coming to the house. Is that right? Kevin? That's what it says. Young Oku was arrested for DUI during its college career. I never forget. Georgia Southern University.

See, dude? Do you think you just got lucky? Totally. Oh, you did. Yeah, right? You're just confusing him. But sometimes you hear things and you have no idea that you heard it and you just, your brain just remembers it. No, I think you were just way wrong. I don't think you ever even heard that. Has there ever been a conversation of him having a DWI at Georgia Southern in your life that you were around? What year was that? 2015. Get out of here. There's no way. Yeah. There's no way. A kicker at Georgia Southern. But one of the odds, though, like, how many people do you know have DWIs?

Like, not bad for me. A lot of my friends. I mean, really? I never had one. No, I know you have it. You don't drink. But I could have been on sleeping pills. Oh, the DUI, right, right, right.

Like, because there was a time where I was taking sleeping pills a lot. So I could, I could have pulled over and been, like, on sleeping pills. I'm trying to convince you guys that I could have gotten one. Like, I'm so lame that I'm like, no, guys. Really? I could have. But you're good. You don't.

You're good. I had a buddy get a BUI. Viking. Really? No joke, I swear. Is that? I would think that would still be a DUI, but I guess there's no engine? Yeah, it had something to do with that, but yeah, it was like middle of night.

He was going to his girlfriend's house from a party. I thought you could ride a bike while drunk. I didn't know. Agreed. I've seen people were just like, I've been drinking, so I'm just going to ride the bike. We all thought he was joking. He's like, no, seriously. I think he got like a fine and had to take some classes.

It wasn't as serious, but he got a B-U-I. You need to look that up. That sounds like he's messing with you. Because if it's like, hey, don't drive, take my mom. bike instead. Right. Like, that's what I would do. Or we've seen stories where people take their kids a little like

electric jeeps, you know, to the store. Oh, this is boating. Definitely not boating. And they said BUI, Kevin? That might be me making it up. But he definitely got something under the influence. See if you can get a UI with something that is not, doesn't have any sort of propulsion. Because you're having to.

I'm sorry, that's a big word. What does that mean? Propotion. Propulsion. I always felt like. With the bike, you're having to do it yourself. It'd be like walking. Yeah, you're pedaling a bike, so you're doing it yourself.

Just like you're walking drunk. Is there a biking under the influence? I mean, there's that too. There's that, but that's different. His buddy said he was biking. I think this is like the time I learned that they didn't give my dog Bradley to a farm. This is like Kevin's about to learn there was no biking. It says depending on the state.

In California, yes. What is it? You can be charged with a misdemeanor for riding a bicycle under the influence. of alcohol or drugs in California. And what's it called? It's called a CUI. C-U-I. Cycling.

Classic mix-up. Hey, you learn something new? Every day. Most days, at least, yeah. Who's going to coach at Penn State, Kevin? Oh. Make you pick now. Matt Rule.

Eddie? The same. I saw a clip of him, you know, on the podium being interviewed about it. And he was very like, he just kept saying, I love Penn State. Well, he started with that. He was like, look, I went to school there. I met my wife there. I'm from there

He's from there Like everything about it I think if he didn't say that People would be like you're hiding something I think that's him 8-miling it a bit Like he's gonna go out And just say everything

So they can't say it to him You know get the reference Kevin No I'm trying to think 8 mile Eminem 8 mile No I know that I'm trying to

I just think of him like rapping Yeah the final scene Because he knows Everything they're gonna Gotcha Oh gotcha That oh gotcha What did they talk about

You know you shooting yourself Oh yeah Gotcha okay good So he'd So he's getting ahead of that. Now I get it. He's saying everything that they would say to him first before they can say it to him so they don't have the power to say that to him.

Got it. Like, you grew up there. You went to school there. You met your wife there. There's got to be like a personal pull to that job. And he's out and he's like, I'm Matt Rule and I get respect. He's rapping it. I know everything you got to say against me.

Yeah, I think I'm going to pick Mandy Diaz. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. So Mandy Diaz, defensive coordinator. at Penn State, then is it Duke now. Duke's doing well, considering.

I think it's Mandy Diaz. He was there before, right, as a D-Corpsnator? Good call. Like, he knows it. He's winning. I think you just have to have somebody that was a head coach. I don't know if it's going to be like a Joe Brady type guy,

which I was thinking about the Titans job that's open. I wouldn't even take that job. No, no, me right now. I wouldn't take the job. Yeah, that's tough. It's a bad job. Yeah.

why in the world would you take a job one where it feels the personnel decisions have not been great over the years there's no stability even in times of super instability there should always feel like though there's a there is i would say the ability to have time in that unstable environment to make it stable i feel like there's not that he was the head coach here for a year in some games you got to give somebody at least two years what if you're like a small

small school college coach is your chance to coach in the NFL. Take it? The risk of that is, if it doesn't work, you're then seen as a failed head coach. Because it's probably not going to work. I think,

like people are saying Mike McCarthy, and I think that's perfect. Like as a gap coach or long term? Whatever. What's different? Like a Pete Carroll. Well, Pete Carroll's a lot older though, right? But yeah, but what's the,

Mike McCarthy, wherever he goes, they win. You won't with the Cowboys. We want a little bit. Yeah, you just need something stable. He's saying that with a helmet on it. He's just making about my helmet.

I mean, we want a little bit. I think a coach like that also isn't going to just kowtout to everything that every single person in the ownership group is saying because they're like, I don't need this. This job doesn't work out. Who cares? Or if you get somebody young, I just don't think it's the best

environment to succeed. And Kim Ward needs it. So you need someone who isn't worried about success here making their whole career. Yeah. So that would be, like, I think Mike McCarthy would be awesome. They'll probably go for a splash or they'll go and just get a coordinator that has, you know, no experience as a head coach. And that definitely works sometimes.

It didn't this time, but I don't think it's his fault. And they give them less than two years and blame it all on him. Blame it all on him. Man, and Belichick would have waited a little bit. He could have been coach of Penn State. What? I'm embarrassed for Belichick. I don't even like to think about it.

Yeah, I'm embarrassed for him. I'm sorry, Kevin. Dude, that's got to be so hard for you. I don't even, I legit, don't even, I forget he's coaching all the time. I don't even think about it. I skip, like, social media stuff that has it. I'm like, I don't want to know that part of his life. I think it's starting to hurt his overall legacy.

Really? I do. Do you think in... Because it's such an S show. In five, ten years from now. You mean the coaching? Sorry, Ken. You mean the coach or like everything in his life, S show?

The coaching. Yeah, it's such a mess. And then now it turns out the, GM was possibly over in Saudi Arabia trying to raise money. Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, it came out today. The GM of North Carolina? Yeah.

We looked that up, Mike, Lombardi. Google Lombardi, Saudi Arabia. Whoa. I thought I'd hear those together. I know. That's true, man. I think if this is full disaster and he doesn't stay another year and doesn't repair this year, I think then it's hey, Tom Brady was really the guy

as much as they were equal. He's the greatest coach of all time. Him and Tom Brady happened to be together. That was the perfect mix of Brady and Belichick. That's what created six Super Bowl champ, right? Six? Yeah. Because Brady won seven in Tampa.

I think if this is a disaster as it is and he leaves while it's fully on fire, I think it hurts it just a little bit. But in like a vacuum going to the first three. Super Bowls? Yeah. When Tom Brady wasn't putting up stupid numbers and being the guy he is at the end of his career,

do you give more credit to Belichick with the defenses? And he seemed like he had his hands on that a lot more than he did in the tail end, I should say. I give him all the credit. I mean, him and Brady, in reality, and I think they both were very much at different levels, parts of the six championships, right? Right.

But I'm talking about just public opinion. Okay. And also I think when you win three, four, five, six championships, your ego, your inability to modify, all this happens. And I think that's all hitting him in the face here at the same time. So he's still a good coach. But, you know, if you can be a great coach and there are still people that you feel maybe are smarter than you.

There is a point probably for Belichick where he feels like he's for sure the smartest guy in the room and nobody else knows what they're talking about because he's but that's never true. Like that's it's never true where you can't take advice or you can't learn something from other people. And I think that could be hurting him as well. Mike, what do you see? Yeah, Pablo finds out reported on it. So two weeks before the season, he would have Saudi Arabia.

More to come tomorrow. That's different on I owe money over there. Oh, yeah. You think if Belichick gets out next this after the season saves his legacy? gets out. I think if this is a one year and it goes away,

I think there are three scenarios here. I think if he stays another year and North Carolina has a little more stability and they win eight games or something, I think that's the best case scenario. I think second best case, there's only three scenarios.

A middle scenario is that he finishes the year and it's like, hey, this wasn't for me. It was a bad year. It was a bad year. So I think his reputation takes just a hit in the next few years when we're thinking about him.

Like overall, I don't think it... Like, Michael Jordan was still pretty good with the Wizards. We forget that. He still averaged 25 points a game. And most time, we don't think about that because he didn't spend 10 years there. I think if he were to get fired or leave in the middle of the season,

it hurts him worse than if he finished out a bad year. Yeah. Because he ran from a problem. Yeah. I just can't see him doing that either. leaving halfway through. Leaving, like middle of the season.

I could see him even even calling it quits, quote-unquote, I guess, like leaving, knowing that he didn't, I don't know, do the best job. That'd be hard too to see him do that. I don't know what it means,

and I just saw before we came on, but Stephen Belichick's wife had posted an Instagram story and there was a picture of a moving truck, and I think her post was, uh, doing this again. Now, it could have meant, he's a son?

He is, and coordinator. He is the coordinator, yeah. Are both of his sons coaching? Or is just one? I don't know. I know Stephen Belichick, because he took him from Washington. Oh, boy, so. So, no, it could, they can be moving to a new house in the neighborhood.

But what? All I know is, if, do you see it? Why would you post that? Do you see it? AI is real good. So you never know. Oh, gosh, everything's AI now, did? You got a triple check.

But I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. If you see Stephen Belichick's wife post an Instagram story about a moving truck there, I saw right before we came on, but that's what's up. Yeah. I'm trying to look for the picture, but this says that she did do it. What's the article say? It says photo from Steve Belichick's wife sparks major speculation. So I didn't make that up.

No, good, good, good. Love that. All right. Let's go and get to the parlay of the week. Oh, the AI, though. The AI's crazy. I sent, so one of my really good friends is Brett Eldridge, the singer. and I saw an AI picture of Kelly Clarkson holding up pregnancy test and Brett Elder was next to her. And it's obviously, it only looks like 85% of both of them. You can tell it's AI.

And it was like, she just said it. This is what, she's pregnant. And it takes it to Brett. And I was like, dude, this is really creepy. He goes, dude, I know. He goes, like, they're like old people that think this is real. Yeah. Because it's not him.

I know. If you really look at these, you know it's not that. Yes. And also, they have never dated. They did a song together. That's like any artist, like a Christmas. song. But the AI stuff is creepy. I mean, I use it all the time. Don't get me wrong. You know what's funny on TikTok right now is everyone doing Kirby Smart though? Everybody

clap your hands. Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. Those don't get old. Okay. Let's get to the parlay of the week presented by Draft Kings. I got my phone out. I hear you. I'm red. We got to do. Hey, we're due for one, baby. Let's go. I know. I know. Okay, I'm at the game. we feel about Vanderbilt being a two and a half point favorite against LSU? That's crazy to me. That's crazy.

One, because LSU is ranked 10th. Vanderbilt's ranked 17th. Secondly, and we like Vanderbilt. We like Coach Lee a lot, but it's still Vanderbilt. Is it the home field? Yeah, they're at Vandy. The thing is, I don't want to pick against Vanderbilt. but like that's great and also it's almost like they're begging you to bet that it was like when can't city was playing Detroit we're like we can't figure out why can't city's a two and a half point favorite turns out all of Detroit's defense was broken yeah we're like what do we not know okay I'm taking you're gonna stay on that game or we're no I gotta get off okay I'm on the game that you're gonna pick Arkansas let's go I can't pick that one I just don't know how about this that's all three of us we'll triangle it up we'll run old times yeah

We'll run the old Lakers triangle offense here. Everybody pick a game. Do you have the list of games? I have the list of games. Okay. LSU Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt's two and a half-point favorite. Georgia Tech Duke.

Georgia Tech is ranked 12th, and Duke is a point and a half favorite. Manny Diaz. I mean, if you were to win that game against top 15 team as he's kind of in the mix, a lot of these coaches, too, because of public opinion, they need to continue having a good season. even if you know they're a great coach, they need to continue having a great season so that fan base doesn't freak out

when you hire them to come and be the head coach at Penn State. Help me out with this line. Texas Tech 7.5 over Arizona State. At Arizona State. Yeah. And Arizona State's quarterback's playing. He is playing?

I already was playing, yeah. I know he didn't play last week, so that's what I was wondering. Texas Tech is good. I know. I feel like seven and a half isn't that much. Is that what you're picking? Okay, I'm going, I'll go first. I'm going to go Oregon minus 17 and a half at Rutgers.

Well, you know what? That was going to be my second one, so I like it. Crap, shouldn't have picked it. No, stop, stop, stop. We're going with it. All right, Oregon minus 17 and a half at Ruggers. Kevin. I'm going to take another road team two.

A heavy favorite Ohio State minus 24 and a half at Wisconsin. Wisconsin's about to fire their coach. Yep. Ohio State's defense is so good. You know who they keep talking about being the head coach at Wisconsin? Coach Laipold. Oh, really? That's another new. He was like Wisconsin Whitewater.

Oh, yeah, you're right. Like, he was very successful there. Yeah, he won like a bunch of champions. I almost want to text him and be like, what's up? Is that a high school? I won't tell. No. Whitewater? D-3?

Okay, a small call. Small school. Yeah, I don't think it's D-3. I think it's FBS. F-C-A-D-S. Yeah, that's how it's broken down now, Kevin. F-S-F-S-F-B-S. Don't know which one is which, though.

FBS, big boys, F-S, smaller schools. DUI. Thank you. BUI. Yeah. BUI. D3, is it? It is a D3 school?

Oh, wow. UW Whitewater, which competes in NCAA D. Did he go from there to Buffalo? Well, Eddie's still looking for his pick. No, I got it. I'm going to do another road team. He picked UW Whitewater. I found him.

Yeah. No, I'm going to go with Texas Tech over Arizona State, minus seven and a half. Okay, so we have Oregon. We all picked the favorites. We're such a loser. No. Okay, man.

We're just trying to win here. Oregon minus 17.5. Texas Tech at Arizona State. Texas Tech, we picked all road teams too. All road favorites in Ohio State, minus 24 and a half at Wisconsin. Your team hitting paid dirt pays out to you.

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Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Now let's get over to our talk with future Hall of Famer Larry Fitzgerald. He played 17 years in the NFL, all for the Cardinals, Heisman runner up at Pitt in 2003, second all-time in NFL receptions, and check out as you'll hear us talk about the Larry Fitzgerald Foundation. Big thanks to Larry for coming on. Here he is, Larry Fitzgerald.

All right, we're joined by Larry Fitzgerald on behalf of Draft King's Pinkham campaign. support, oh, I get it, Pinkolm, like, I just got the whole name of the campaign. Anyway, let me do this, Larry. Sorry about that. I just, like, it hit me right in the middle of reading that. Supporting the Larry Fitzgerald Foundation and Breast Cancer Awareness all October long with free to play pickle polls every Sunday. Larry, thank you for coming on. Hey, tell me about that. Tell me a little more about this. Well, so I've been very fortunate and lucky to be able to have unbelievable supporter in the Rack Kings. It's our seventh year now. And with the Pinkham campaign, you know, we're raising awareness for breast cancer research, what our foundation supports. And, you know, I hope if you haven't participated, please go to draftcans.com slash pinkum and, you know, 20,000 free pool entries.

The first 20,000 free pool entries, you know, they match. And so please go sign up and support some great causes. We're big draft Kings guys here. Do already. Yeah, big time. Me too. Okay. So a couple things. Question number one. What do you still do every day that is very much training like that you did as you were playing?

I definitely don't train like the physical aspect I don't train, you know, nearly as much as I do or do enough just to make sure I, you know, stay healthy, right? But in terms of like reading and, you know, knowledge acquisition and being intellectually curious, like that's still the same has always been. So I would say that's pretty similar, but from a physical perspective, there's no reason to keep up that kind of pace. It's really not, you know, a professional athlete. Yeah, I was thinking like bench press. You were talking about books. See? That's why you're going to go far in life, not like working out.

So you don't, you didn't feel the need. Like, I don't know, a lot of my buddies who were ex-athletes at very high levels, it took them a while to kind of taper down. Like, you know, they trained every day and they slowly had to get out. So were you able to quit and then just go, hey, I don't need to do it. it like that anymore because I'm not doing it like that anymore? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going against you know, sauce gardeners of the world any longer. I'm not, I don't need to be training at that level. I need to be able to go out and run routes with my son, you know, we're practicing on things or be able to go chase the kids around and, you know, just general fitness, you know, so a lot of times

I travel a lot, you know, I take the, you know, the bands or the TRX and I do, you know, I'm going to work out in the room and I do some, some intervals. in terms of my treadmill, so I still get on and do like 30-second sprint at like, you know, 12 under 4% incline, right? And they'll walk for 45 seconds and they're doing a 30-6, you know, so I still want to do some cardiovascular work to get my heart pump in and make sure I'm in good shape because I'm still a young guy and I'm 42 years old. And so you want to make sure that you are just taking care of your body, man, and, you know,

being fit. What about the competitive bug? Is there anything that you do? It can be chest. Absolutely. Yeah, what do you do that keeps you like fired up? I play chess a lot, a couple games a day, you know, to keep me, keep my mental acuity shirt. I play a lot of pickleball.

I like, I like pickleball, and particularly I like singles. I'm very competitive in golf. So, I mean, just because you don't play ball anymore doesn't mean like the competitive energy and bug just goes away. You still want to, you want to beat somebody in something every day. And, you know, so I got to have it. I'm a big singles pickleball player too because it's the only time

I can ever get like real work like doubles that's fun with your friends it's good camaraderie but like singles pickleball is like you want to get a sweat I actually own part of a professional pickleball team

which is the Texas ranchers so like I'm part of like pickleball probably a little healthier than I should be or a little healthier than I should be I've played in tournaments have you ever played a tournament I have unfortunately

didn't work out well from me It didn't work out well for me. I played a final tournament and I realized I thought I was good. I'm like a four or five, I would say. But that point five is a big difference. You know what I mean? Like, especially with those firefights at the net, you know, the quality of the serves, the third shot drops, you know, like there's a significant improvement, you know,

at that level, you know, but I got a chance to drill with some really good players, you know, like I, you know, and Andrew and, uh, Andrei Dyscu, you know, who I think is playing, you know, as good, if not better than anybody in the world right now. And, you know, a lot of really good players. And, you know, so it's been fun to kind of be a part of the game and see it continue to grow. Okay, you said you played a 5-0. That, that's like pro. See, a little bit. I was like, because I played a 3-5, I won a 3-5 tournament once. I want, but it's 3-5. So I played a 4. I got swallowed. You played in a five.

Like I shouldn't even be talking to you right now by pickleball. No, no, I had no business being out there. I had no business being out there. But I wanted to see, I wanted to kind of just feel the speed of the game and the quality of it. And I realized very quickly that I need to find something else to do. Do you miss Sundays with all the guys? You miss Sundays competing? No, I wouldn't say I miss it.

And I played 17 years professionally, you know, probably all in all 30 years, like, and just, you know, from Pop Warner Little League all the way through. You know, so I had a fabulous run. So many great memories and things I could look back on and be very proud of, you know, things we were able to do for the city and philanthropic endeavors that we support, similar to what we're doing here for Traff Kings. You know, so, like, those things always kind of, like, flood my mind with, you know, a lot of positive things that I can take from my experiences.

Hey, Larry, I got a quick story. When my son was young, the doctor was like, he was having some motor skill issues, and the doctor was like, you take an occupational therapy. And as parents, we didn't know what that was. And I was really reluctant towards it, you know. But when we got to the doctor's office, they had a poster of you in an article of Larry Fitzgerald, how he struggled with certain things when he was younger and occupational therapy helped him in his career. And honestly, that really made me open up my.

my eyes to it and be like, you know what? Hey, my son could be the next Larry Fitzgerald. We're doing this. Unfortunately, he wasn't. But do you, what do you, what can you say about that? Because that blew my mind when I read that. Man, well, first, it's early for your son. Just, just tell them to stick with it. Yeah, vision therapy was something that I did a lot growing up. My grandfather and my mom's second oldest sister, both optometrists in the Chicago area. She's still optometrists. So, you know, all summer like twice a week, you know, for eight weeks in the summertime. I was doing vision therapy, you know, merging quarters, doing all these eye

strengthening exercises. Still to this day, I have 20, 10 vision still to this day. And it definitely helped me track the ball when I could see, like I was playing baseball. I could, ball being thrown on me. I mean, I could see the stitches, like my eyes would be able to slow it down at that pace. And so it definitely helped me improve. It definitely helps me now. I don't have to wear contacts or glasses or anything, not yet, God willing, I continued on that path. But yeah, I mean, it's, it was something that really helped me. And it also helped me academically be able to slow down and help me learn and read and focus better in their classroom. So like all across the board, it was very helpful. There's a lot made about you being a ballboy with the Vikings way back in the day.

Did you know at that point that you wanted to be a pro football player or where were your aspirations athletically at the time? Yeah, I mean, I wanted to play. But, you know, when you're 12, 13, 14, 15 years old, I mean, like, the likelihood of you making it is just so slim, right? But I knew that if I applied some of the same discipline that I saw John Randall and Chris Carter and Chris Dolan and randomly Daniel, Randy them all, and all these guys do every single day

that it will give me a better chance to actually have an opportunity to do it, right? There's no guarantees. But it was just a mentality of focus, the intensity, the way they did their job every day was like, gosh, man. This is special what I'm watching. And I was able to realize that. And I started implementing it to what I was doing. And I just started taking off.

But obviously, I had a love and a passion to get better and compete. And I think, you know, this is a mixture of it, you know, was really helpful. You left college early. How hard was that to get approved? Do you have a very famous situation? Yeah. So I came out with Murray's Claret and Mike Williams, who both for sophomores and I was a sophomore as well. The only thing that was different is that I had went to a prep school for a year.

So my original graduating class was graduated in 2001. I ended up going to a military school for a prep year, which took me out, and I ended up graduating in 2002. but technically my original graduating class was 2001. So 2004 year would have given me technically three years removed from my graduating class. And so we presented that quietly to NFL legal. Like I didn't want to go and like you don't want to go toe to toe chest to chest with the national football. That's a that's not what you want. And so we kind of went back challenge to see if they would be okay with that explanation.

And they got back to it and said that was fine. And so I was able to do that and not try to back. to fight my way in. Your hands, obviously A plus, were they always great as a receiver? Or was that something that you also had to train to do? Yeah, I think even when I was a young kid in our cul-de-sac, it was like this circle. And I remember the snowplows would come in and they would push the snow up against the walls. We would have these snowball fights.

And, you know, I would throw one up in the air. And a guy would lift and I would throw it. And I could always, like, see the one that they were coming. I could catch them, you know, we package them, and throw them back. Like that was like seven years old. I could always catch it. I just was good at catching a center fielder in baseball. I could track it off the bed.

I can see where it's going. So I always had really good hands, but obviously I worked tirelessly at, you know, getting better and better every single day with the drills that I would do. But naturally, I was just, I was good with the hand-of-eye stuff. What was the big change for you when you moved into the slide? I just think the physicality of it. You know, you're so much closer to the ball,

so you're closer to the linebackers. the defensive ends and new jobs, responsible for blocking force a lot more frequent. So I think just the physical nature of it was different. But I think it made me much more complete player and had not added that part to my game later in my career. You know, I definitely wouldn't have been the player that I turned out to be.

Do you have any books you've read more than twice? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I would say the one that I've read the most is probably the Alchemist by Pablo Cohen. I think that really kind of challenges the way you think involved, you know, what the good life really looks like, you know, and how you can attain that by just trying to find any peace and happiness every day.

And so, yeah, I've probably read that book. I don't know. Eight, nine, ten times maybe. I think, because I've read it a few times as well, every time I read it. And again, it's not a long book. But every time I read it, and it's not a lot of words, I'm able to find something like a different message, a different narrative that I think possibly I was searching. This is going to sound way, kind of cuckoo maybe. But I think for like whatever I was needing at the time, I've always found it within that book, even though it is not a book of like 500 chapters or 100,000 words. Yeah. I'm in agreement with that. with the Cardinals you know

we got not winning a bunch of games so far although we did hey I don't know how do you feel about the Cardinals this year I don't want to create a narrative how do you feel about

the Cardinals this year you know what I mean is what I would say about the whole John Coach Cannon regime like they are competitive they're feisty and I know they started off

two and all and dropped the last few but like all these games are competitive they're in every single game look at what they did, you know, the tough place against a really good team. Indianapolis coach this week, they ran it, led late into the fourth quarter. Like, they fight and they compete, you know. You just want to see them start out of getting over the hump. You know, they play pretty poorly early on against Seattle, fought their way back in,

was able to get to get the lead. Obviously, they lost in overtime, but the way they're able to fight, the way they're able to scratch and they play, it's just something that I really admire. Like, they got a lot of fight. Is Marvin Harrison Jr. Somebody that you talk with, there are a lot of similarities, not just playing receiver for the Cardinals?

Yeah, I don't talk to them a lot. You know, we communicate once in a while. You know, I don't, I'm not one of those guys that tries to befriend and get close to, you know, the players. And I think this is their time. I have my time in the sun. It's their time now.

They, they ever need anything, any advice or anything that I could do to help them, you know, in their journey, I'm always available. but, you know, if you reaching out and calling and texting, like, that's not really a jam. All right. Give you one more question here.

So final question. What is your favorite, like, clutch catch from you at all, any time in your career? What's like the one? I think I caught a fade in the end zone in the Super Bowl that kind of got us going in the second half. And so, yeah, it was like, I think that's one of my favorite ones to kind of get the ball rolling. I think that definitely stands up there at one or top plays. Larry, I appreciate it. And again, it's the Pinkham campaign.

You can go to the Larry Fitzgerald Foundation.org to find out more to get involved. But also, you know, with Draft Kings, you can see it all up there as well. The mission of the Larry Fitzgerald Foundation is to support youth education and breast cancer awareness. And all October long with Draft Kings, Larry, really appreciate the time, man. Hope you have a great day. Yeah, thanks for spending a few minutes with us. Absolutely. I appreciate it.

I keep your son into vision therapy. Yeah, you got it, I will. All right. See, Larry. All right. Do you guys have with a day? NFL fans, what's your favorite touchdown? There's over 100 years of touchdowns to pick from.

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The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win.

A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for Raw.

unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clivert Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money. It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast Eating While Broke is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future.

This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landry, Landry, from Pierre as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. If I'm outside with my parents and they see all these people come up to me for pictures, it's like, what? Today now, obviously it's like 100% they believe everything, but at first it was just like, you gotta go get a real job. There's an economic component to communities thriving. If there's not enough money and entrepreneurship happening in communities, they fail. And what I mean by is they don't have money to pay for food. They cannot feed their kids. They do not have homes. communities don't work unless there's money flowing through them.

Listen to Eating While Broke from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, I got a tweet from somebody, LV Runner, 1975. They say, Mr. Bobby Bones. I must say 25 whistles, my favorite sports podcast, been a day one whistler. I think I speak for the majority of the other whistlers when I say we're long overdue for a read update. need to know how his St. Louis chaos is going. Reed, so the people have demanded it. We put you back on the show. I'm glad I'm back, baby.

How's life? I'm happy to be here. It's great. I mean, streets are still a little crazy out here, living downtown, downtown. But, you know, you respect the streets. They respect you back. Amen, brother. It's been pretty good, man.

It's been pretty good. What's your curfew, Reed? I'm doing some other podcast work. What's up? You have a curfew where you do not go outside at this time? Noon. Yeah, 4 p.m. Yeah.

4 p.m. doors are locked. We're inside. That's just how it rolls out here, man. Buddy system, it goes the whole way. Hey, man, you have some high ceilings. Like, I know you're like supposed to be, you know, we're not making a lot of money right now.

That is a vaulted ceiling. It is, yeah. It's a little loft style up here. Rocks do fall frequently, though. From the ceiling? be sitting and you will just hear rubble falling from the ceiling. So I don't know if that's a bad sign or not. I think so.

In your living, in your living room or just like outside the building? Everywhere. No, living room, my nightstand in the bedroom, I'll wake up and my nightstand is covered in rubble. Stop using the word rubble. Like it's an earthquake. Hebbles. Or like, like you've been bombed. It's literally dirty.

Yeah. Reed is talking just from Gaza right now. Right. Rubble. Okay, so you live in downtown St. Louis. How often do you actually get out of your apartment or your condo? So I take Maddie to the hospital in the morning at like 6 a.m. And then I'll pick her up right now at 6 p.m. And so other than that, I will, I'll go get some groceries.

I've cooked every night this week, which is crazy because I don't cook. And so I've learned to cook. And so it's either me going to the grocery store. or running an errand or I've picked up skateboarding. So, you know, I might go hit a couple tricks at the park for a minute, you know, get some exercise. But it's a park that's way outside of town. You know, I'm not trying to get killed. Because if you don't respect the streets.

They don't respect you. That's right. Hey, so, you have glasses on. You look pretty intelligent with your new glasses. There's a bit of a story behind that. There sure is. Yeah. So I finally got eye care with being married.

And so I finally could go to the eye doctor. and I can see. It's a miracle. I just never worried about it at all. And unfortunately, they're like, you need two pairs of glasses, one for work and one for everyday wear, which was really expensive.

Insurance covered a decent amount of it. But I feel like a new man, man. I could see. And now I look like vigilante from Beastmaker. You do look exactly like vigilante. So, well, you were blind when you were here. like you couldn't see anything? I had a slight stigmatism.

So I could still see. Got a way. But it just wasn't a stigmatism. Got it. Okay. Is what they called it. Yes, that's what they got it. So I can still,

I can still see. But it's definitely, it's like, it's just good. It's HD. Everything's HD now, man. Colors are popping. I can see the world. It's beautiful.

Didn't you, didn't you give him like money for like insurance? Yes. No, he's, I was so offended when he first came. You got to talk about this. Well, no, it's,

Reed worked with me for how many years where we together? Five, six, something like that? Five-ish? Probably five. I hired Reed off the streets. I respected the streets. Yeah, baby. I hired Reed from an email. Like, he just emailed and I was like, and I talked to him on Zoom and then that eventually I hired him and then everywhere I went, Reed went. And when he was like, hey, I got to move because my wife, she's going to finish med school and wherever she gets put as a doctor, I got to go there. We were all very sad. very sad yeah and so I was like dang okay we'll find a way to keep you on but like I hired him

paid him a full time salary I thought for the level of skill he had at the beginning overpaid him a bit but I also paid him a salary and then gave him a full stipend for insurance because I'm not a big company

but I was like hey you can get insurance on your own here's this many thousands of dollars to buy insurance and you made it clear to him that's gonna if you want it you're gonna use this for insurance I think he just bought pork rinds or something with it because all of a sudden he comes back and he's like, I'm skateboarding because I don't care if I get hurt.

I got glasses because I couldn't see. I got insurance for the first time. I'm like, dude, what do you think all those thousands of dollars were for that I'm giving you extra outside of your salary? And he was like, I don't know, man. Reed, what did you use that money on? Yeah, they went straight to Uber Eats. That's exactly what I went to.

It's like insurance, I guess. And I knew, I just, I mean, I knew Maddie was going to be a doctor. So I'm like, she's going to have the best insurance you could possibly get. so why should I use this money on insurance? I'm not going to get hurt. I might have a toothache, but freaking screw it. I can fix it myself. And I don't need to be able to see

because in three or four years, I'm hopping on her train, you know? Three or four years. Well, yeah, he's out and he's telling everybody the story about how he finally has insurance. There's like six of us together. Even though. Yes, we flew down,

Reid came here and we met and we flew down to the Lionel Ritchie show. So it was me and Kevin and Brandon and Reed. and Morgan number one and Tom like there's six of us and Reed's going on I finally have insurance I finally have insurance

and I'm like dude they think I didn't allow you to go to the doctor like take care of them yes like that I didn't take care of them at all and so I was like ragging yes I was like guys I promise you I don't think he just knew what to do with the money

no I for sure just didn't want to use it for insurance real reasons yeah yeah what's your happiness level at right now oh it's at a freaking 15 on a level 10 scale, you know. I am the happiest I've ever been in my entire life.

I'm like, my edema. He's insulting you. He's insulting all of us. Dude, you weren't that happy when you were here with us. No, but I'm still connected with you guys. If I wasn't connected with you guys, I would be just a sad sack of a human. That makes sense.

Thank God you're not a sad sack. He doesn't have any friends up there yet. He's happier with no friends up there. The highlight of your day is on the grocery store. Yes. He has to go 45 minutes out of town. the skateboard, but he's the happiest he's ever been. Carry a pistol on him, but he's happy.

I'm just content with life, man. I got a weenie dog now. It's like, it's great. You didn't have a dog before? No, no, I didn't have a dog. It's hers. And how's she doing? She's doing 12-hour shifts, it sounds like?

Yep, 12-hour shifts. She's had the last seven days in a row working without a day off, and so she will work until Monday, and she'll get another day off. When do you get to move again? In three years. And you don't know where? Don't know where.

Can you pick where, though? Sorry, there's a nat in here. Yeah, yeah, you can pick. You can pick after that. Because in three years, she will be finished with residency, and then it's just based off of job choice. Like if she wants to get a job with the hospital, start her own clinic, that sort of thing.

So how long have you been there in St. Louis? Uh, since May. June, July, August, September, five months. So two and a half years, you're back in Nashville. You're coming back here, right? Dude, I will try my best. I mean, I would love to. We're going to try to have a kid in the next year and a half or so.

Um, and so I don't know if it'd be better to be closer to family. Um, even if we were closer to family, it's still closer to Nashville than it is here to Nashville. But I would love to live in Nashville. I love Nashville. We're slowly dropping his happiness level, but reminding him where he is. I'm so far away from my family. A couple more questions.

Let's just start recheck in for the month. Do you watch any sports at all now that you're not with us? I watch a lot of highlights because I'm still pulling a lot of clips. Like I saw the Tess Johnson thing. I was like, hey, we know that guy. Yeah, that's cool. Which is super cool because I didn't recognize it at first. but as far as actually sitting down and watching full games, no, not at all.

Are you betting on? None whatsoever. No, not betting yet. It's almost legal. It's still not legal yet. We already told you how you can do it, though. Different ways. Drive to the state line.

Drive over that line. That's it. 15 minutes, man. You can do pick six. Yeah. Pick six is in Missouri. Oh, yeah, pick six. Yep.

You got options, baby. That's true. I feel, I don't know what my strategy needs to be, though, because now it's like, when we weren't married, I'm like, no. Nobody's looking at my bank account. Nobody knows what I'm spending my money on. Yeah. But now it's like I got to be cautious about that.

So it's like, should I, should I like go in it with like, hey, give me $50 every two weeks to bet during like prime time sports? Should I do it like that? Or how do you guys do it? Well, I think, well, I think we do it differently, honestly. But there's no way Bobby's and mine are the same. No way. Very true. I don't know what the financial situation is there now.

I mean, are you or is she more the breadwinner there? Ironically, I'm making more money than her right now. Because she's in that early, let's see. It's called like, is she called an intern even though she's a doctor? Is that what that stage is? Resident intern, yes. Yeah. So she's a first year, essentially.

Got it. Still a doctor, but I didn't know. That's a weird thing. Still a doctor, yeah. So right now, until she's out of that, that, that, part of the doctoral situation. Sounds great, dude.

You're making more money than she is right now. Yes. A wise man? It feels fantastic. Have you put your bank accounts together? Yes, I have. I got a business checking, a business savings, and then a personal checking.

And that's what I use to move money from the money that I put away for taxes. You don't have to give us all that information. It's like my banking number is. I know it, man. The routing number. But I'm saying, though, do you guys share an account? Yes, we do have a shared account?

And so do you watch the account? Do both do you guys watch the account? Funny enough, she doesn't even have log-ins to any of it. She's just like you're setting yourself for success here. Perfect. So she kind of, she has no idea whatsoever. She trusts him. That's where the problem is.

Well, she's working 12 hours a day, seven days a week as a doctor. Yeah. Like if you need somebody dependable, You're looking at him right there. That's right. The guy who had insurance money for five years and spent it on Uber Eats. But he has real insurance now, though. All right.

Dude, the house is clean, man. Laundry's done. Food is ready on the table when she gets home. Wait. It's been good. You're the housewife. You are. Right now I am.

I'll take it. You're the stay at home. I mean, I'm the daddy homemaker right now. Hey, so when she works late, are you kind of like sitting in the dark with the food that's cold and you kind of look at her and be like, well, where are you been? You couldn't call. You couldn't call? Well, I go pick her up, so I can't do that.

Oh, okay. Are you guys just sharing one car? Yeah. She's got a car, but it's lately we've just been using my car. Yeah. Why? It's safer. Oh, security.

It's safer, more reliable. Oh, your car is? Yeah, my car is, yeah. And the parking garage that she would have to park in, it's like a 15-minute walk, and we live, like, like it's like a 20 minute walk from our place so it just makes sense for me to just drop her off all right pick her up well i always wanted to check in see how you're doing sounds like you're doing pretty good i got a question read it's been great yeah your trip to nashville you uh got to hang out

with some of your old friends for a little bit like what did you guys do so uh well hanging out consisted of just getting rid of a bunch of junk that I had at Dawson's house. And we got a U-Haul. And that's about it. Like we stayed up and played some video games that night, drank some drinks and brews. Felt great. The time before that, we went salsa dancing. Oh, interesting.

And by we, just him and Dawson. Just him and Dawson. Just me and Dawson. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun, though. Yeah, it was fun. I'll be up there in a couple weeks, though.

How much weight have you lost? Around 30 LBs. Wow. That a boy. Good job, dude. And what do you credit that to? Well, 100% I credit to Kevin Kluge right there, Strength and conditioning and Bobby for letting me work out with y'all and not have to pay.

That's not true. But that's been a bit. You've lost most of this weight since then, since you moved to St. Louis. Yes, but I, well, yeah, pretty. much actually it was mainly diet though like the last four or five months being in Nashville when I was dieting yeah and then yeah and then after moving just lifestyle changes like eating at five o'clock and not I still destroy some Oreos at night but what about the beer and I'm not eating talk uh I'll drink once a week but sometimes on the

weekends when you were here how much were you drinking oh I was probably drinking every couple of days. Not a whole lot, but just like a beer or two every couple days. And playing video games and stuff. Stay in a blade. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still staying up late now, though. I got a boy.

She goes to bed. You'll show them. Hey, yeah. Yeah, yeah. She goes to bed at like 9 o'clock, though. I can't do that. So I stay up. Well, wear a helmet in your house because rubble can be falling in.

I never know. You never know in the rubble. I did. Amazon, I just ordered a helmet. a skating helmet. So I got one. That's for skateboarding or for your house. It actually just got in today.

I need to go get it. Oh, I can use it sleeping too now. So I went to the dentist and I got a mouth guard. So now my teeth are going to be protected. Well, that's because you have insurers now, dude. You didn't have that before. Life is so good. I know.

It's 15 out of 10. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's fantastic. I miss you guys. Miss you, man. All right. Talk to you soon, buddy. All right, there he is.

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Seven? Yeah, seventh. He's done, right? I mean, he's not going to play it. Probably not, but when he had... Maybe the seniors tour? But when the car, like, was crashed into the ravine, we thought that, too. I thought he was...

Was that before the Masters win? No, I was after the Master's. Dude, he's had so much crap. I don't know. That was during COVID. I think that was the end, dude. That was the end. That car wreck kind of did...

Did everything. I think he won the... No, I think the Masters was like 18 or 19. Yeah. I think you won the Lions Club event. The Raffle. Do you remember the Lions in Austin? We used to go play?

Oh, Lions, the golf course? Yeah. Didn't you see like a fight in the parking lot where somebody shot somebody? Was that you? No, that doesn't sound familiar. We used to play there, and it wasn't the greatest course.

At the time. It could be. It's a Muni, and it was old. It could be now, for the record. It might be the greatest course ever. We don't know. At the time, it struggled. But they had a big net.

Like, there was like a old beat-up road on the side of it, kind of like a highway, but one they should have fixed a long time ago. and it had a huge net on the side of it that would keep balls from hitting all the cars that's the kind of place where if you hit a car they'd pull a gun on you so yeah that's probably in the middle of town now

one more Google Mike will you Google Lions Club Austin um gun fight it seems to me like there was a and you know somebody that witnessed it yeah not me or was like there right when it happened heck I don't know it might have been me

it felt like a lifetime ago that's not where I flipped the cart, right? No, that's a different course. It was, yeah, do you see anything, Mike? No, not seeing anything. Okay, man. It was a dream you had. Whatever, man.

Tiger Woods announced he underwent lumbar disc replacement surgery on October 10th. It's his seventh back surgery in 11 years. I said he made it for his health. The 15-time major champion didn't mention how long the surgery would keep him off the course. He hasn't played since his loss in the PNC championship last year. I haven't played golf in months. Which is to play? Months.

Since you beat Eddie? That can't be the last time you play with. Do you play with your father-in-law? Oh, yeah. I played like 11 holes. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the last time. Maybe, but I think I played with Dene Hayes one time after that.

But I haven't played a month. Yeah. You've played a couple times by myself. But with other people. Yeah, I went by myself. They teamed me up with other people. Do you like that? I love it, dude.

You don't mind that. You like hanging out on new people. They got to be good. You know, they got to be nice people. And for the most part, I get teamed up with nice people. But I'd rather do, dude, the best case scenario, though, is to show up by myself. And they say, go ahead, by yourself. Love it.

Oh, yeah. Put music on. If you're by yourself, it's the best. So good. What's up this weekend? You want the Titans game? Yeah. The Patriots game.

Yeah. The Titans game. Yeah, Titans game. Yeah. Patriots, yeah. Patriots, Titans game, going. And I'm going to bring the little ones, guys. Five months sold.

No, no ticket. No. Two and under. Don't need a ticket. So are you just doing that because you can't find a babysitter? No, no, I want to bring them. They're not going to know what they're going on. I don't care though.

I want to be like, when they're like 10, I'll be like, you're guys' first game, you're five months old. And you lost to the Titans. No, no, no. No, let's hope not. Let's hope not. Yeah, I'm pumped. My family is in town and we're going.

My dad, brother, sister, the wife, the two babies, we're going. It's going to be awesome. I hope Patriots win. I really hope they do, too. Vrabels return. There's going to be some very upset Titans fans there. It's crazy. it's Brable's return and they just fired the coach.

I know. Like the same week. They keep them. Since they fired Brable. Yeah. The tickets are so cheap. It's great. They're paying you to go. Yeah. They're like, come on down. Yeah, I'm fun. Cowboys. Cowboys play Washington in Dallas.

Three o'clock game. Should be a good game. I mean, those are the ones that we might, you know, we might surprise you and win. Like, let's see. Arkansas plays Texas A&M on Saturday at 2.30. I don't know. I feel pretty good about it. Yeah, you feeling good? I feel pretty good about it.

It's at A&M, isn't it? No, it's in Arkansas. Oh, wow. This is the first year that we've not played at Jerry's World. Oh, that's right. For, like, stupid years, we played there. And it was cool for like the first two years. But, yeah, now we're going home normal.

So excited about that. I don't know I might go. I don't know. Oh. Okay, see, I didn't know we were talking like that. I thought I was going to go last week. It's a little further to go to Fayetteville, obviously, than it is the drive down the road.

We've had this conversation a lot. I know. And I'm glad I didn't because we got whooped. Correct. Tennessee, I'm glad I didn't. Right down the road. Because we lost. And then I lost after that with the Cubs.

That's a very bad day. Yep. Maybe they're just waiting for me to come to win. That's what it is. This is the one. It's going to depend how my wife feels. Hypothetically speaking, would you go on the field or no? You would visit down the field right a little bit.

So it's a complicated situation. What do you want to know? If you're going down to the field to watch some of the game. Right, that's the question, right, Kevin? Yeah, and then I thought about field storm, but then your wife said, never mind, you wouldn't even be a part. She may not even go to the game. She could go with me over there and then not go to the game. I doubt she'd want to go to the game.

If we went, she'd probably go over there. But our in-law, our, like, DJ is a coach at Arkansas, softball. I would imagine if we do go, and she's had no interest in going, I've nothing told her I wanted to go. That she'd just go to Grace's house. Okay. During the game. Yeah. You guys have the game.

You and DJ go. Sure. Okay. I mean, DJ probably is like bringing recruits in and stuff. So I have enough people there. Could I go on the field? Yes. Do I like going on the field sometimes?

Yes. A lot of times, I'll just sit up in a suite and watch a game. And that's cool too. But for a year and a half, I've not been vocally supportive of the football leadership. Now, they did fire the coach. But I've not been, I was one of the first, like, normals to be, hey, I don't think this is working.

To the point where I have another friend who's on a staff, is a staff member, on one of the coaching staff. That's all I'll say. It's not DJ. One of the staff to be like, hey, are you, like, anti the football team? Oh, no. And so I think me being honest as a fan has rubbed some people the wrong way in the athletic department. And you've never been anti? I'm anti-nothing.

I'm pro-win. I just want to win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a real fan. But you have this platform. I have a big platform. So it makes it awkward. Yeah, so I don't know.

But it's also weird, too, because I donate a bunch of money. And they don't, they're not really that nice to me anymore as I'm donating money. But there's no way. But I'm not donating money to be nice or I would have stopped donating money. Right. If it was about them being nice to me, I would have stopped donating. You're donating to win, baby. Yeah.

You're not winning. Exactly. Well, yeah, that's a whole different story. But yes. Yeah. So I don't know. the answer to that. I got like my guy over there is Quinn,

Quinn Grovey, who played quarterback at Arkansas, takes care of me. I don't even want, I don't want season tickets because I don't go enough. Every weekend, I'm just like, I think I'm going to go and I don't go. And that'd be a kind of waste. Then you got to get rid of your ticket. So Quinn's awesome. And even though I was going to Tennessee, he was like, hey, let's go before you get,

let's hang out before you get here. So love him. But like, there's people there that aren't that warm to me because I have not been extremely state media. and that's a bit what they want. They want state media, meaning they want the media to reflect only positively

about the organization. So... Don't they know you? You are real media. I'm just an idiot fan. That's all it is. But there's no way, like if you guys sat in a room

or had dinner together, you guys would have the same beliefs, the same opinions about things. I feel like you just... But the problem is that's their job. It's their job. Like, let's say that they, they go, hey, it's not just a head football coach.

It's other people that are related to hiring the coach. We should also get rid of them. Oh, yeah. So it's, they probably feel like it. So it's an awkward situation at Arkansas. I get that. It is my absolute favorite thing in the world. I don't root anything but win, win, win, have more of my money.

Here, have some more. Will it help? Have some more. But I don't know. A scale one through 10, how much do you enjoy being there in person? Ten. Well, hold on. Because that was a quick answer.

It's 10. That's my favorite place to be, period. More than quickly? I guess you're a bigger Arkansas. Yeah. If you were, okay. Yeah. Do we suck?

Yes. Right now. Seven. Are we pretty good? If we're pretty good or above 10. If we're below average, seven. But you guys are like... Yeah, I wouldn't even say you guys suck.

No. Like, there's some bad team. We lost to Memphis. I mean, your quarterback is damn good. Yeah, awesome. We lost to Memphis at Memphis. We're an SEC team. I know.

But at least it's entertaining. The games are entertaining to watch till the end. Yeah. Yeah. Just leave halfway to the fourth quarter. We almost always win. So, yeah, I may go. I need to have talk with my wife to what she thinks about it.

She may just be like, go ahead and go. I'll see you later. Yeah. That's what's up. So, all right? We all good? We're good, man. I don't have any headphones on.

So Mike's music playing? It is. Right. Yep. All right. Good luck to the Patriots. Thank you. Good luck to the Cowboys. you.

I feel pretty good about this Arkansas game. And I know Texas A&M's top five team. Yeah, they're good. I'm feeling pretty good about it. And Bobby, we trust. And what's weird

does I never say, I know, well, if you want it to be, it's weird to say my own name, though, even because you don't really say your own name ever. That is weird.

It's weird. Yeah, that's like if the Cowboys head coach was Eddie somewhat. Yeah. It'd be weird. So in Bobby, we trust.

And I hope he performs, Opie wins four of the next six or seven games and he gets the head coaching job. If he doesn't, that's fine too. Like, interest. I just want to win. So that's where we are. All right, that's it. We'll see you guys Monday of next week. All right, thanks to Larry Fitzgerald. Thanks to Reed, most of all.

Oh, read. Yeah. Godspeed, Reed. The guy's got rubble, following his head in his own house. Got trouble everywhere, outside, inside. All right, thanks guys. We'll see you later. Bye. Thank you. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on social at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports. Thanks to our crew.

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