The Bobby Bones Show - A Message from Bobby + BONUS: Too Much To Say with Kalie Shorr 'Free Britney Spears and Beyond'

Episode Date: February 21, 2021

Check out Too Much To Say with Kalie Shorr!Everyone is talking about the New York Times documentary "Framing Britney", and Kalie is no exception. She talks about what we can learn from how the media and its viewers treated Britney Spears- and how it applies to everyone, not just celebrities. Follow Kalie on social media:instagram.com/kalieshorrtwitter.com/kalieshorrCheck out her new album, "Open Book: Unabridged", out everywhere now:orcd.co/openbook-unabridged Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So there is no live radio show today. but I wanted to hop on and share an episode of one of our podcasts from the Nashville Podcast Network that maybe you haven't checked out yet. It's from Kaylee Shore. She's an artist. She's, you know, a millennial. It's called Too Much to Say, because she definitely has a lot to say all the time. In this episode, she's talking about the new Britney Spears documentary on Hulu. She breaks down the whole thing. It talks about what we can learn from how media and its viewers treated Britney Spears, but also how it applies to everyone else, not just celebrities. She has a pretty bold perspective. that's why I like this show, and she's not afraid to speak her mind. So you'll hear that in her podcast and in her music. So check it out. I think you'll like her music as well. So I'm going to play

you this. If you do like it, go over to it, subscribe. She's a brand new podcast. If you like it, go over to her podcast and write her a review. That would actually help her so much in building this podcast. So we just appreciate you guys. You can subscribe on IHeartRadio or Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Just search too much to say with Kaylee Shore. Here's the episode now. Hey guys, I'm Kaylee Shore, and this is too much to say. Okay, so like the rest of the world, I spent this past weekend watching Framing Britney, the documentary by the New York Times that was on Hulu. Highly recommend, it's incredibly eye-opening. And I'm going to focus on just a couple different parts of it. This whole episode isn't about Britney Spears, but she is the perfect example of what the media does to young women, whether they're famous or not, to be completely honest.

I was old enough to know what was going on with Britney Spears from, you know, the kind of tumultuous time between 2005 and 2007. But I wasn't old enough to really know how big of a deal it was that she was just this joke to everybody. And there's this really impoignant scene in the documentary where Brittany is a question on the family feud game show. And the question is things Britney Spears has lost, and one of them is her hair. One of them is her mind, and one of them is her husband. And that was a joke that the live audience was laughing at, as if Britney Spears isn't a real person. And to be completely honest, like watching this, it felt like I was watching a Black Mirror episode. But then I remember that this was just a couple, you know, 15 years ago, not even.

There's crazy moments, like where this interviewer who's an adult man is talking, to her while she's a teenager and says everyone's talking about her breasts, then wonders why she seems to get furious when a talk show host comes up with this subject. That's literally what the interviewer said verbatim. It's insane. And there was just this massive sexist, like, interpretation of Brittany. And yes, like her songs were sexual. Her music videos are sexual. She didn't write or direct those, which is also important to know. But also, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be sexual as a woman and portray yourself like that. And she actually was like a very like well-mannered, classy, beautiful, intelligent young girl.

And it's just judging a book by its cover. It's outdated. It's boring. And it's usually inaccurate. There's crazy moments with the paparazzi where you see them following her around doing the craziest stuff. They're just on her back 24-7. And of course you're going to break at some point. I mean, that's just.

I can't imagine ever going through something like that. And paparazzi are still a thing these days, but now we have social media, which is both a good and a bad thing. It means that you can control your own narrative a lot easier. So you're not getting these splashy tabloid headlines saying something, you're actually being able to say it yourself. So it's like, you know, if the headline is like, messy divorce, burn new cheats, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like you've probably already posted about it and said what happened. but at the same time, like, we don't have the tabloid culture that we used to, but we have internet trolls, and we have commenters, and we have people with opinions. And so the interviewers and the tabloid writers and the paparazzi saying all these terrible things about Britney Spears, they now just live in the comments.

And anybody can be that guy. I mean, my good friend Perez Hilton was featured on the documentary as well. And, I mean, he's talked very publicly about how he is not proud of. the way he treated people back then when he was a gossip blogger, you know, and I think that that's, you know, he's shown a lot of growth and a lot of remorse for the way he treated people. But just to use this example, everybody can be Perez Hilton now. Everybody can be 2007, Peretzelton, and just voice your opinion and make a YouTube video and just put it out there and say all these negative things about people. And on a smaller scale, it's kind of how social media works with

high schools as well. Like, even when I was in high school, I was probably like part of the first group of kids who had social media from middle school on. And I remember I think I got my first MySpace account when I was like in six or seventh grade and everybody was on Facebook by eighth grade. Like you had a Facebook. Every single person did. And so that was a really weird adjustment because everybody, like there was this thing called Form Spring. I don't know if you guys remember that. And it doesn't seem to be something that many people did.

I don't know if it was just my school. but it was like an anonymous question site. So you had your profile. It was just your picture and like a very short bio. And then people could submit questions and they could either have their name on them or they could be anonymous. And the anonymous ones were where it got really bad. Actually, the ones where it got really bad was where the person forgot to click anonymous. And so you saw the name of who it was.

And a lot of times it would be like somebody asking a question about themselves to someone else. And then they leave their name. And it's just so so hilarious. kids cannot be trusted with social media. But that FormSpring website operated kind of like a gossip blog for the teenagers at my high school. And also we had legitimate gossip pages on Facebook that would be like anonymous like during high school gossip.

And then it would be like this so-and-so broke up and this person did this over the weekend. And it was all like really fucked up. But I mean, I remember this one rumor. Oh my God. I don't even know I'm sharing this. But just so you understand the gravity of what. this website was doing. I, this is like one of the most fucked up things ever, but I was in 10th grade, I think, and I had started talking to this guy, and he was black. And we had a thing for like a little

bit. It didn't last very long. I wrote a song about it, posted on YouTube, whatever. And then, I guess like a week or so later, because it's high school, that's what you do. I started flirting with this other guy who just so happened to be black. I just didn't think anything of it. I personally just like hot people. I don't really discriminate. I just like hot people. That's my type.

And I remember getting a question on Form Spring that was like, do you have jungle fever, which is like so fucked up? And that didn't hurt my feelings nearly as much as it must have hurt those guys' feelings. that became a whole thing. So I came back to school after winter break and like everybody was saying that I had jungle fever. And then the, you know, me talking separately to two different guys ended up being this like really weird rumor that, um, I got drunk and had a threesome with them at a party. And I was like, oh my God, I haven't even seen a penis in person yet. Like, what are you talking about? And like, then that became a huge rumor and like I went back to school and people were talking about it as if

it happened and I was like just high school tablets like that's what social media is so adjusting to that you know there's always been rumors there's always been stuff like that but it was just so much more prevalent as soon as social media got involved and really just I mean it made me feel so terrible and I was being slut shame for something I hadn't even done and like it was just horrifying and people were able to say this anonymously and so like I'll never know who it was who was saying those things I definitely have my guesses. I mean, it doesn't matter. It was so long ago now, but it's definitely bullying, but it's also different than bullying because it's like just a culture. And when you're going to a school where everybody's being that mean to each other, it's really hard to not get caught up in it. And I've definitely treated some people in high school, like, you know, in ways that I'm not proud of. I don't think that I was ever truly a bully. I think I've always like had a little bit of a more. moral compass when it comes to that and just I've been an outsider a lot of my life so I think that I have a certain degree of empathy when it comes to people but it's really hard to not get caught up in the

shit talking when it's like the entire culture and to that same point it's hard to not get caught up in shit talking celebrities so when everybody had turned against brittney spears everybody continued to turn against brittany spears and it was like this big joke and everybody's like oh my god I'm going to shave my head. Like that was the punchline. It was like talking about this thing that was clearly some sort of mental break for Britney Spears. And it just makes me so sad. Watching the documentary is really eye-opening and, you know, seeing this massive pop star,

but being able to relate tells you how this is not a problem isolated to celebrities. It's just a think before you speak thing, you know. And I've tried, as I've, you know, gotten more. followers and read more comments and had more things come out about me, whether they're true or not, you know, just reading stuff. I probably shouldn't read as much on the internet as I do. But it's definitely made me think twice before I share an opinion of a celebrity because you're like, oh, they're a real person. There's somebody on the other end of that Instagram when you're commenting. And it's just the stuff I see on, like, I feel like on TikTok, especially because I

like the comment section is so active there. There's some things where I'm just like, why did you need to say that? Like, why did you look at this video and be like, oh my God, you know what I need to do? I need to say this. This is going to do something. This is going to get a reaction. I don't know. Like, my life motto is, to what end?

Like, what am I trying to get out of this? And so when it comes to a comment like that, it's like, to what end? Do you want, like, a couple people to start an argument with you in the comments? Like, there's this one comment that I think that people. comment on TikTok a lot when they see a video going viral for the wrong reasons. And people will comment and say, you know, it's, I think it honestly gets coffee and pasted, but it's very important. And they're like, your comment lasts 10 seconds in your head, but like, it'll last forever in hers. So be careful what you're saying to people. And then there's also this thing that I see a lot with

girls being nice to other girls where like if something like that happens, a bunch of girls will just comment like compliments on the comment page so all the mean ones get pushed to the bottom and you can't see them anymore and there's this one girl that I follow on TikTok and we started talking back and forth but she's disabled and posted a video that was like just kidding like it was just a her singing along to a song and like doing it was like a relax your face and um you know we'll see what your psycho face looks like or something like that like it was just so stupid and she did it and people were just like making fun of her teeth and like just being completely awful saying all these terrible jokes and I commented on it and said something nice to her because she was wearing

like really cool black lipstick and I was like oh my god I wish I had the nerve to wear black lipstick I wish I could wear it more often like sometimes I'm like a little too nervous and then she followed me and we started talking back and forth and she's so sweet and so smart and her perspective as a disabled girl getting cyberbullied was so much more enlightened than you have would expect somebody who's the victim of that to be. Like, she had every right to be so angry because the things people were making fun of her for were things that she had zero control over. I mean, that is one of the most fucked up things you can make fun of people for.

That was the moment that I, like, truly, completely lost respect for Donald Trump was when he made fun of that disabled journalist. It's just inexcusable. And I don't know how you can make, you can justify something like that. So for her to be dealing with the worst kind of hate, the most hateful kind of hate and still be the bigger person. It was really inspiring. And I mean, her video, I think it got like a million views or something like that. Like there were a lot of comments. And that's also another thing about social media is everybody can be a celebrity. Everybody can get a

million views on a video randomly. I mean, I literally had that happen a couple weeks ago. And I had people trying to find out who Amy was in the comments and doing all this stuff. And, I mean, I literally had that stuff trying to track her down, you know, I feel like most people were, I don't want to say on my side, that feels down, but like most people understood why I wrote the song and didn't think I did anything wrong, but there were some people who were just like really rude about it. And, you know, saying stuff like, I was just mad because my ex-boyfriend didn't want me. I'm like, okay, well, you want to read the text because I think you're wrong. But it's just so weird.

Like, anybody can be a celebrity for five minutes on social media. and you're just under so much scrutiny. And, God, anybody can feel that, what Brittany felt. But on, you know, a much smaller scale, it just makes me so sad because so many girls my age, like we grew up listening to her and we loved her so much. And everybody loved her. I mean, she's America's sweetheart.

And then you wonder why Taylor Swift felt so much pressure to be so fucking perfect all the time. And then people ended up hating her because she was, like, quote unquote, little miss perfect. Taylor Swift was terrified because she thought what was going to happen to the chicks what happened to her where if she talked about politics, she would completely, you know, be blacklisted. And then she saw what happened to Britney Spears where Britney had to talk about being a virgin, have all these like weird. Like that should never be a question you're asking.

Anybody, much less a teenage girl. How fucking weird. And then there was that whole thing with Miley Cyrus and the Jones brothers and Dem of the Vado and Selena Gomez where everybody had purity ring. And I do remember seeing this really great Taylor Swift quote in her first Rolling Stone cover. And she was like, you know, they were asking her if she had a purity ring, which is just so fucking weird. She was like literally like 18 years old, 17 maybe. And she was like, yeah, I prefer not to talk about it either way because I just don't want anyone picturing me naked. And talking to a teenager about not having sex and asking them if they do or they don't is just as fucked up about like making them. answer questions about being sexually active. Like, it's just not your business.

And, oh, I mean, virginity is a human construct anyways. It doesn't even real. Don't even get me started. But I highly recommend you go watch the Britney Spears documentary. It'll really open your eyes to a lot of different things, not just her plight. And also, I haven't even touched on the fact of her conservatorship with her father, which is just insane. And that's like the point of the. documentary, but I figured, you know, it's best for you guys to hear that story from the New York

Times. This is just an opinion piece on how we've treated Brittany and people on social media and tabloids, et cetera, et cetera. But I highly recommend you go check it out. It'll give you a lot of perspective on her situation, but also just a lot of perspective on how we treat people. And I think that there's a lot of room for improvement there. I think that after watching that, I want to be a lot kinder, even just in the thoughts I think to myself when I'm scrolling on Instagram and I see an Instagram model and her face just annoys me, you know, like, I don't know why that happens when I'm just like, oh my God, that person's so annoying. Like, why do I think that? Why do I think I have the right to think that about somebody I don't know? So it's just kind of controlling your own thoughts and and staying

positive. I find something really wonderful to do when I'm just even kind of depressed in general is every person I come across, I try to find something to compliment them on and notice something about them, whether it's their eyes or their hair or their outfit or something I saw them doing for somebody else that was really kind and they didn't think anybody was looking and just looking for the best in everybody.

And there are some people where you probably won't find anything and that's okay because you can just run these. Thank you guys so much for listening. My name is Kaylee Shore. I know that I had promised you last week a very juicy episode this week. However, I had to push a couple things around so that's going to be next week.

Stay tuned to my social media. I have a big announcement. I'm recording this episode on Tuesday, so I don't know if I'll be announcing it by the time this episode's out or not. But we'll see. Thank you guys so much. Big news coming soon.

Also, you might want to follow me on Spotify because I know good it on your release radar in the event. I was releasing a song. I don't know. Anyways, hope you guys have a good day. My name's Kaylee Shore, and this is too much to say.

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