The Bobby Bones Show - AMY: Financial Domination, Influencer Doubts & The Email That Started It All

Episode Date: June 1, 2025

FEELING THINGS WITH AMY & KAT: Amy calls her boyfriend demanding money...and let’s just say, if you need a laugh today, this moment delivers. The ‘Feeling of the Day’ is SHOCKED…times two: 1) Amy tells Kat about a strange experience from a school recital where the teacher outshined the kids!! 2) Have y'all heard about Financial Domination (aka FinDom) where people willingly give their money to strangers...just because they’re told to?? Amy & Kat also discuss influencers and authenticity (do they really wear the Amazon outfits they're pushing?), and they answer some listener questions from Instagram (like how they met & more!) Kat mentions the ‘Friendship Deck’ cards…click HERE to check them out! And click HERE for Snail Serum (and all of Amy’s Biopelle favorites) and use code: HAPPY25 to save 25% your order. FYI: 5/30 is the final day! Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And it's actually the same feeling twice. Okay. So it's shocked times two. Okay. So really shocked. Yeah. Shocked by two totally different things. Okay.

One involving kids and an adult. And another involving adults. Okay. We hope. So the first one is I was shocked to be at a school recital for children. and they're giving their performance, all the parents are there to see their kids perform. It's already long enough. You know what I mean?

Yeah, this can be pretty long. It's pretty long. Yeah. It's a weeknight. Got to get home and do dinner and homework and all the things. So kids are performing, kids are performing. And then what do you know? The teacher has a solo.

I was shocked. Is this, what kind of recital is this? It wasn't that the teacher had a solo, like a solo with the kid. or because it wouldn't be a solo, I guess, if the kids are involved. What do you mean what kind of a... It was, is this choir? Is this like a band? Like a great recital.

Yes, there's instruments. They're singing. I think you have to be involved in something. It's like the arts. The, you know, like every, the whole school's involved. It's a, it's a performance. Yes. Like, it's like everyone has different things they're bringing to the evening.

And even the teacher had their own. solo and I just thought well this is adding time wait what kind of what kind of a solo did they have well a singing solo and a flute solo so they did a flute and then they were like next I'm gonna sing yeah it just was awkward yeah so is that a feeling awkward awkward yeah yeah I'm sure shocked it was awkward and I just I don't know I don't want to be a hater because it was beautiful I just feel like as the teacher it's the kids time to shine and and you lead them and then spare the parents, like get us out a few minutes early, but.

Can I ask a couple questions? I just have some follow-up questions. Okay. I didn't know this is going to be that interesting. I just thought I'd be like, I was shocked by this and you'd be like, yeah, that is weird. Well, it is weird, but I get, you know,

before I judge something, I just kind of want to know. Oh, yeah, I don't want to judge them. I just was shocked. Was this teacher like the choir teacher? Do you know what they were? Well, yeah. They were the choir teacher.

Yeah, like they teach. They put together the whole recital. Do you think that they just... So they worked in their performance. I wonder if they just like feel left out. But they're the teacher. I know. But imagine that you're a musician and you can't get a gig.

And they're like, well, I can work myself into this. Right. No, no, no. I feel like that's what happened. I was just shocked. It is shocking. Does the track coach get out there front? He's like, I'm actually going to do the relay.

If you don't mind, you're going to step out today. Does the football coach put themselves in? No, no, they don't. Okay, that's a good point. Right. And was it good? Yeah, it was real good. Maybe they were like, it was really good.

So I'm going to show you what they could do. Right. There, I'm like the talent was there. It was beautiful. I just was shocked. And I think as were all the parents sitting around me because we're just ready for, it's a lot. It was already a lengthy.

evening. It's shocking. Okay. Shocking thing number two. I had never heard of, I forget how to say it. Fendom. Is that how you say it? Findom. I don't know what you're talking about. Financial domination. You never heard of this? Oh, I'm not shocked. You haven't heard of it because I'm just now learning of it. It popped up in my for you page on TikTok, which I'm like, why is this for me? When you first say that financial domination. Yeah. I would think it's about becoming financially independent. No. Domination. Dom. Sexual. Well, no. There's no nothing sexual about it. Actually, I mean, maybe for the giver, they like to give the money. Okay. So let me explain. I pulled the exact definition. Well, I guess I didn't. I thought I did. But it's pretty much where men,

give money to women that just say to them, give me money. Like, they're dominant over their finances. Like, this is how you need to spend your money. And the men that are giving it, they're known as fin subs and pay pigs. And they willingly offer financial support for everyday expenses like lunches, nails, shoes, and even hair. And they like being told by the women what to do with their money. So if the woman says, give me $500 right now, they do it. This is not people in a relationship. No, I think it's a fetish. Okay. Findum.

Okay. Fendom. I have not heard about this. Oh. But you're not shocked by it? I'm not shocked about it. Yeah, Kat said she needs it. I'm not shocked about this.

I think maybe because in my line of work I hear a lot about the different types of things people do. Oh. I guess when you started talking about this, I thought it was more like a seeking arrangements thing. And maybe that's part of it too. Like men seeking. You haven't heard of seeking arrangements?

is a website. Oh, no, that's a website. Is it, it's like a onlyvance? It's literally called seeking arrangements. I think they rebranded, though. So I don't know what it's called now. I don't know if you can Google seeking arrangements. Oh, they needed a rebrand?

I don't know. Well, maybe because then people were judging every, okay, I'll just tell you what it is. So seeking arrangements or whatever it's called now was a website where you could go on and you could look for a sugar daddy. or a sugar mama or you could be the daddy or the mama looking for somebody to treat. And what from my understanding is that you would create an arrangement and it could be whatever you want.

It didn't have to be sexual. It could be like, I'm going to pay you $300 to go to dinner with me twice a week or I think probably most of the time they got more than that. But they had an arrangement and you would have that person and they'd like, I have this concert I want to go to. If you come with me, I'll pay you $600. or I'll pay you $500 to text with me three hours a night or something like that. Okay.

Yeah. But that's not the same thing. This is an arrangement. Like they're getting paid by simply saying, pay me money. Because it's like you're the dominant person over their finances. Like they want. This is genius for the women. Yes, because the one woman that showed up on my for me page, like she said, look,

I like to keep my page classy. I'm not trying to do anything, you know, with my body. I don't want any women to feel like I guess she put together a course to teach women how to do Fendom. And where do you find them? Where do I find what? The people to pay Fendom.com. I don't know. Findom.

I kind of love this. You do? Well, I don't know. Yes. Okay, but you're only getting my short version of it that I don't know because like what if Fendom.com is actually like maybe this one particular Fendom coach is clean. But maybe some of the others are subjected to other. type of behavior. So I don't know that I want to give it like a big old stamp of approval before we

know more. I mean, I thought I'd even, I even had the exact definition for you and I did not. Whatever people want to do, if it's not hurting them, causing them harm, go for it. Okay. The reason I love this is because first of all, there's already a hard enough wage gap with women. So if they can just like tell a man to pay the money. Right. Because you're not even having to give. It's not like you don't do anything. There's no feet picks. There's no, no. No, it's just give me money. You know, I didn't take the course, so I don't know. Okay, so your homework is to take the course and then you're going to come back and tell us how much money you made. No, but that's how she was scaling her business because she...

Was this a scam? No. I don't think so. But I didn't, I'm not going to sign up for it. But she clearly was doing it for herself. And then she wanted to coach other women how to do it. But now she's making money by charging women to take her course. Okay.

I get, this gets me hot when there's like coaches, coaching coaches how to coach. Like, I can't. I know, but you know people are making a lot of money that way. Yes. And I, it's just interesting to me. Cryocat from back there said she would sign up for the course and let us know how it goes. Okay. You're going to do Fendom? Yes. And then you can come and be a guest and tell us how it goes. Yeah. And she will. Also, I love that this showed up on your for you page. Why? Is that, I wonder what that says about you. Should I, should I, should I call you? my boyfriend and say give me call him

like right now give me $500 so I can go to lunch what happens okay we'll see if he well it says here you can get lunches nails he sent me to a voicemail what is he busy working

wait just because you can send him a text I should be like what do you get? Send him a voice note and say give me $500 I need a pair of shoes okay Hey. Hey. Hey, give me $500 now. Now.

I wish I could send one of those to Patrick. Why, you don't have your phone? Okay, Finn Dom. That's all I got about that. All right. And then we'll check back in to see if you get a text message later. Oh my gosh. Should I really just send that?

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And I love links. I love clicking links. I even post links myself. I'm nothing against the links. I just am trusting people. I'm pro links. I'm pro. Hey, if you want the link to this, I want to help you.

I've never been able to be consistent with clothing links. Trust me. I wish that maybe one day I'll get it figured out and I can be because that is lucrative. Yeah. And that's just, in all honesty, like some people are making so much bank. And I started to wonder if now are we to a point where sometimes it's a money grab? Like, are they really wearing it? Or do they put it on for the Instagram video to be like, hey, I've already built this trust with you.

I'm into fashion. You trust me for fashion. So now I'm going to sell you this thing. I would never be caught dead in in public. But it's cute enough for me to post about it on Instagram and I'm going to get you to buy it. And now you're going to wear it. And I'm going to make money off of it because it's a cheap item off of Amazon. And so many of you are going to buy it that I'm going to end up making a gazillion dollars.

And after this video that I show you on Instagram, like, I'm never wearing it again. You know, oh, boyfriends calling me. Okay. You have to answer. And we'll come back to this side of thoughts. He probably thinks I was abducted. Hello? Hey, well, I was going to put you on speaker, but then we're recording a podcast, so that seems unfair.

But did you get, did you get my message? Did you? No, you didn't. You haven't got my text yet. Okay. Hold on. Wait just say it with. Okay.

Give me $500. No. No. No. What? Okay. Give me, give me $200. Give me $200 now. Okay, give me $1?

No. Right now. No. Right now. Right now. Right now. You, you have bad words that I can't say. Like, right now, you. Right now. you you like any blank but right now you bad bad boy bad boy okay okay give me ten dollars right now

give me all give me your money now transfer me okay bye no but i feel like okay thank you okay bye he says bye guys well i give me ten dollars you bad boy you bad boys you bad guys well giving $10, you bad boy. My abs hurt. He was my boyfriend. So if that was my audition for Fendom, I fail. Like, I don't think that's what they're looking for. They're looking for, like, professionals that can hold it together and really demand

the money. Like, I obviously would be really bad at that. I'm going to record myself doing this with Patrick later. Okay. I'm going to start with something more reasonable, though. Mm-hmm. Give me $50. I love how I was like, okay, bye.

And he just goes, bye. He has no questions, no nothing. He's like, I give to go. Okay. That's good. Okay. I got to recover from that. Where were we?

We were. Money. Talking about giving all of our money to influencers or influencing. Since we can't just ask for it, we have to make it. Right. So to be clear, I'm not. I'm sorry. I keep thinking of me.

Like and subscribe. I just imagine him being like, no, no. No, no. And then I'm like, okay, bye, and he's like, bye. We'll see if I ever see him again. Okay. Let's see. I'm sorry, okay, okay.

I'm cool. It's not that funny. We're cool. Cool. Cool. We're cool. Influencers. We have a job to do here.

We have a podcast. So I know that I, I post things. So this isn't me calling out anybody specifically. It's just, I'm curious about it. It's a theory that I've had because I'm buying these things from these people. And I'm like, are they really wearing this?

Or like, do they throw it like, okay, it'll be like a cute outfit head to toe, one that is like way too expensive. I'm not going to probably buy the outfit. But then they'll be like, and then look at these shoes. I got on Amazon for $20 and they are cute and they are $20. And they do go with the outfit. but here's my thinking. I picture them doing that.

And then before they leave, they put on their Prada or whatever they're putting on. I don't know. But I'm like, okay, maybe they are walking out of the house and their Amazon shoes, which I will buy and wear.

Like, I don't, I don't care. I don't have to have a name brand thing. But when there's a lot of name brand stuff happening, I do think there's some that don't care, but then I think there's some that they might be just putting that on for the quick money grab of like, I'm going to get so many people to buy this right now because it looks so cute, but there's no way I'm walking out wearing it.

I didn't ever think about that. I think you're on to something. I also think in this, I have nothing to base this off of. But one thought I've had because I've randomly posted a link to something is that I can't afford this life. I can't afford the life of linking because of how much stuff you have to buy. Well, here's my thought. do you send it back after you post it? I think a lot of people buy a lot of, especially people that do the try-ons, like here's my Amazon haul and they try in the clothes and like, oh, it's so cute.

I love this. I love this. I love this. And I'm like, how do you have a whole business off of Amazon haul? You have to be spending so much money on Amazon. I think they try it on, they keep one or two things and then they send the rest back. Well, they might or they're making so much money that it doesn't matter. Because they are. So much stuff. Yeah. No, there's times where I've been really, this is full transparency. Like I've been good at linking my Amazon maybe and you make a lot of money. Yeah. And I'm like, whoa, that was so crazy.

Now, it's genuinely stuff that I wear I like or products I use. Like it could even be like my salad chopper. I love my salad chopper. So if I link that and then a lot of people get the salad chopper, well, I get a percentage of everybody that gets a salad chopper because that's why. It's why you would, yeah.

I mean, I would share it anyway, but then also if you can make money off of it. I guess what I'm specifically talking about is if they genuinely really like it, great. Link away and then I'm trusting you and I want to know. I don't want to get duped into thinking something is cool and cute because I trust your fashion and then you're putting in a box and returning it or not wearing it and ditching it and putting on your really cute thing.

And then now I got it and I'm wearing it and people are like, what are those shoes? Those are not cute. But because you're fashion forward and I'm trusting you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I'm not the fashion person. Like don't follow me for, for fashion. I mean, sometimes.

You look so cute right now. Thank you. You look very fast. Pause, pause. Good job. Okay, I want to clarify this because I think this is helpful. I think you said this, but I just want to reiterate it. You're saying if that's your job and that's your hustle, do it.

There's no shame in making money from links. I do it. It's cool. It's great. Why not do it? It's I want to make sure that I'm not buying stuff that is ugly. Yeah. Okay.

I should be able to think for myself. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for pointing out what I know. I didn't say it yet though. I'm aware. I want to think for myself, but fashion is not my thing.

And when I'm following someone for their fashion inspo and then I feel like I'm getting duped, that's where I'm like something's off here. I don't know why I just, I had this theory. And again, I've posted clothing links before. But it's people that are following me, they're not like. oh my gosh, you need to follow Radio Amy right now because she has so many cute clothing links. I post a clothing link once in a blue moon. And if I'm really on a role, then I do it. But then I'm like, okay, it's just not my. It's not type of mind for you either. It's not my gift to the world. It's not my talent. Like I don't really know what I offer on Instagram. I think sometimes I struggle with that because having a radio career and then social media coming along after a radio career.

And it's like then we have to utilize these tools when we used to just have to focus on radio. And then it was like, okay, now you need to focus on Facebook. And now you need to focus on Instagram. And Twitter. We used to give all to Twitter. And now I don't even log in to X. You have? Yeah.

You have Twitter? Radio Amy. That was, I mean, Twitter was the OG. Like I was tweeting way more than I was Instagramming. And then I was Instagramming more than Twitter. And then we were Snapchat chatting. And then we were tweet. Lots of things.

Like your thoughts? my thoughts. All of them. I want to go back and look at that. In 250 characters or less. I can't wait to go look at your old Twitter. Yeah, my mom had a Twitter. We would tweet. That's where Pimpin Joy. We were tweeting. Joy got started on Twitter because it's the hashtag. Hashtags were the Twitter. That was where they came from, right? Yeah. Twitter. Twitter. Which is now X. So, yeah, this isn't a hate thing on that. I guess it's just a, does anybody else feel this way? Or are my thoughts valid? And then who? can we trust because there's no way to really know. But then some people, you're right, they have all these halls and they may have like their body is perfect for it. So then it's like deceiving because you think like,

oh my gosh, every single one of those outfits is so cute. And then I'm like, but are they like this is how I picture in my head. They put it on and they look cute and they go and they're like, oh my gosh, this dress dead wearing it on vacation. I cannot wait. It's so cute. Fire hot. Yeah, trust. Is that one? Well, that's what my daughter told me the other day when she was helping me get dressed for something. She was like kind of tuck your shirt in like messy. Like you're not trying, but you tried, but you're not trying.

And so she's like tuck it into your bra a little bit. I mean, my stomach wasn't showing, but it was this messy tuck into the bra. But it looked like it was tucked into the pants. And I was like, this feels weird. And she looked at me and she goes, you look cute. Trust. Okay. Trust.

Okay, trust. Dead. Trust. Slet. Sle. Sle. Slet. Hot fire.

But I guess now I can't remember my thought. Well, you're imagining what they're doing that. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then they throw it off and they're like, this is disgusting. Exactly. Like, I'm like, I'm like, did I just buy this like blue crochet dress off of Amazon thinking it's sleigh, fire?

And then you take it off and you're putting it back in the Amazon package to ship it back because there's no way you're caught dead wearing it. And you're like, a thousand people are going to buy that. And I'm going to make so much money. And never wear it. Like, I don't know. I don't want to think people are that way. But it's just become so easy.

Yeah. This is giving that vest is disgusting. What is that from? Is that mean girls? That's like one of the most famous lines. From mean girls? I guess. I just know.

Did you not love that movie? I love that movie. But I. Yeah. When she's like, I love your vest. And then she's like, that vest is disgusting. She's like, it's vintage from my mom. And then she's,

just like that best is disgusting like that's literally what the then that influencer sees you in person and she's like oh my gosh you bought that dress I love it and then she walks away and she's like oh what a loser yeah but then they're like but I bought a new bag with all the money that I just earned okay I believe there's probably people that do that and there's people that don't and and what we really have to look at and this isn't like a fun funny answer is if we like something are we buying it just because this influencer said it was cool or they said it was cool and we like it. I know it's hard.

But then I can differentiate if I really like it or not because I trust, I like having their, like when I get ready, I love having my friends say like, yes, that's cute.

I like validation. Okay. Which is something my therapist was having me work on. I forgot years ago. To go to my closet, get dressed and not ask a single person

their thoughts about my outfit. But getting dressed was hard for me, but remember I told you my mantra, I get dressed with ease. It looks like you got dressed with ease today. I don't know if you did.

I just put on a white tank top. black jeans and a denim jacket in cool shoes and you're wearing a denim jacket and a tank top trust I'm not wearing a tank top I'm wearing a potato sack right now you can't see it but it's like a black tink top well and then I have this like potato sack jumper on oh I got dressed with these link it I think you have something you have something there so I think what we it's really not an important question though it is an important question I but I just like I wish people could just give a disclaimer I really hate this, but I want you to buy it. That would ruin their business model.

Thanks for funding my lifestyle. Suckas. Know what they should do. They should have to post what they bought with the money that they made from each item that they post. But that would be like we would have to post what we buy for people listening to our podcast. But also, our podcast is free for listeners. Do you see the difference? Our podcast is free for listeners.

We have advertisers that pay to advertise on our podcast so that we can give something for free. people are not paying for our content so our money isn't actually coming from them it's coming from our advertisers yeah you know this is the whole like influencers debate that could tell as old as time where it is so helpful and i'm so grateful to have easy access to people that can give you recommendations whether it's clothes or design or food or like anything at the same time people always find a way to abuse and manipulate you know so it's like we have to just and Be mindful, but what I am. And I'm a sucker.

I know, I'm proud of you, though, because I feel like your scam meter is on. And that's why you're asking yourself that question. Because you're like, I don't want to be scammed anymore. I want to be able to think for myself. And that's where this maybe is coming from. This is growth. Well, I just want authenticity. Yeah.

Because you're sick of getting scammed. Right. Yeah, I want that too. That's why I get so angry when I see things that I'm like, that's not. Well, and that's why, I mean, I don't think we all need to be transparent about every single thing and walk around with like, I mean, some stuff can be kept private. But I don't mind saying like, yes, when we post links, that's. You make money. Yeah. I, yeah. Like, and in some parts of me, because it's not my main job, which some people, it is their main bread and butter. And I,

and I'm sure they do it and they do it well and they do it with integrity and they are authentic. So that's great. I guess. You got to look out. I just want to figure it out. And I'm not slamming it. because I've done it, but I've done it with things I actually use. But you're saying I want authenticity. There's a difference between being transparent and having authenticity. We don't have to be transparent to be authentic. Thank you. So you're just saying, you don't have to tell me every detail.

Like, you don't really have to post what you bought with the money that you made. But I... Well, you were saying that. I went a little too far. I went an itemized report of your last vacation that we funded. Everything you ate and drank and bought all that. But yeah, we just want to know, we want to be able to trust you. And the sad thing is like, that's probably never going to happen.

Yeah. And any brands I've worked with in the past or on social or wherever, like, and also even in radio, there's a difference in voicing and endorsing. Like sometimes I'll lend my voice to something. But you won't hear in the spot maybe that I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. Because that would be a personal endorsement of like my personal experience. if you finish that sentence like I, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But sometimes, and this is less of a payment to the business,

so this is a little behind the curtain, but they won't have to pay as much, but we lend our voices because we're the personalities. So it would just be like, okay, that would be my voice, but I'm going to voice it exactly however you say and not give a personal experience. But it still has to be somewhat in alignment. Like, I'm not going to do something.

There's things I pass on all the time. And there's other things that I'm like, Okay, that's totally fine. I can do that because I will eat that or I have eaten that and I can't eat that. Yeah. And I don't know. Sometimes I feel like people think they also know us and they're like, well, that doesn't feel in alignment with you. And it's like, well, you don't know us at every level.

But anyway, sometimes we're just lending our voice and sometimes we're lending an endorsement. And those are two very different types of payment scales or whatever. So anyway, that being said, is it time for a commercial break. Just kidding. We maybe just got out of one. I don't know where Houston's going to put it. But I do have some questions that we got from Instagram, a little question box that I put up and then people sent their questions.

You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who. we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so

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Do you meet the, like, the president? You think Canada has a president. You think China has a president. Those law a rousette. God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying,

not my monkeys, not my circus. It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying. It is an actual poem. Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes. Yes.

Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift, who said that for the first time. I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset.

sets, too many of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about, like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd

Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. One of the first ones that came in was makeup links. Yes, please. So then I was laughing. I was like, I don't have any makeup links, but. And you will make money if you post the link. But you will use these products. Yeah, I don't know if I'll post the links because I've had these products for a week now.

I'm just saying that's not my, like some people, the minute they get it because this is their job, like influencing online. So they're like, just went to some. Here's my Sephora. Here's my Sephora Hall, which is great. I'm grateful for that because I will click on it and I will buy it. Because I... But you want them to try it first. That's what you're saying. I don't know if I'm going to link this because I haven't tried it yet. Yes. I do like it though. Okay. I bought all of's makeup. Rare. Rare. Rare. Rare beauty. Not to be confused with Road. That is Bieber. Haley Bieber. Yeah. Okay. What did you get? You had all of. Is that what did you buy? I got the contour. something. Is that a stick? It's like a little sponge on a tip and you go dot dot dot. Oh, that sounds fun. And then I got the blush. Okay. And then I got concealer. Okay. And I got powder. Okay. I needed all new makeup. Like I needed a fresh haul. Did you think like fun and crazy? Like an

eyeshadow? I didn't get any eyeshadow. I have my Charlotte Tilbury. Is that who you say it? Eye shadow from a few years ago that I still really like. Because I feel like eyeshadow doesn't really expire, but some of my other makeup from I had Charlotte Tilbury before. This is what I replaced with Selena. Oh, you're trading it in. Yeah. And it was time. I was like, how long is this stuff good?

Because it had been years. What else did I get? I got a lip gloss. From Selena. All Selena. Is that what you have on your face now? So if you like it, I'll link it. Just kidding.

I don't even have links. But you can go to rare, like, and that's the thing with makeup is maybe if you can go to the store and, like, try it on yourself and then see what works and what you like because what looks good on me may not look good on you. True. So thanks. Yeah, let that on a t-shirt. That should be the disclaimer on the influencers thing.

When they're like, slay, fire, this looks so cute. And at the bottom, they say, what looks good on me might not look good on you. Buy with caution. So good luck. You're going to order this and you're going to get it in. It's probably going to look like so gross on you. But then you're going to be like, oh, returning it is such a process. You're going to keep it and I'm going to keep your money.

Thank you. Okay. More question. We got multiple, like, questions about our friendship. Like how did you and cat meat or how do you to become friends? That's a fun story. Go for it. Do you want me to?

I get to tell it. What do you mean you get to? Well, back in. I don't know. We can popcorn it. We're going to popcorn it. You tell it. Back in 2020, right?

Yeah, 2020, you were doing a. You may be emailed me in 2019, though. It was, it was 2020 because I know where I was. I was in a coffee shop in Chicago. But it was January. It was February. Okay, it was February. I only know this for a specific reason.

So you were doing outweigh, and I guess you were talking about it maybe on your podcast that you were going to be doing it. Okay. One of my friends' moms listens to your podcast. You were talking about doing an eating disorder podcast. My friend's mom, shout out pie, said, tell Catherine to email Amy to see, I don't know, if she wants to be on this podcast or whatever. And I was like, she would never respond to my email.

In my head, you don't read emails. But I didn't listen to your podcast. And I didn't know that you had like the interaction that you do with the people that listen. So I was like, not going to do it. But I went on a trip to Chicago with my friend Hannah and she had to leave for over 24 hours. So I had 24 hours by myself in Chicago. And I was like, oh, I guess I'll pretend to work in a coffee shop in Chicago. So I went.

And I had a latte that had glitter in it. and banana toast do you like all the details I'm kidding love the details and I was like I guess this was before chat GPT too so I wonder how good the email was so I emailed you and then I was like okay I'll probably never hear from her and the next day you email me I think it was really the next day so then I came and I did outweigh and I remember us not really knowing what we were going to talk about and me being like okay I have an idea let's just talk about this and then it was really good. With Lisa. Yeah, with Lisa is who I started out way with Lisa Hame. She flew in from New York. and I'm surprised honestly she got back.

She flew out right before the tornado then hit my neighborhood in East Nashville. And then COVID hit right after that. So when she flew back to New York, COVID was already getting a little weird there. It wasn't weird in Nashville yet. But New York, she said, was starting to get a little eerie. But two weeks after that, it got weird. Yeah, here. I also just want to say, that is not like me to do that.

I do not like doing things by myself. I mean, you know this. I get nervous. So I'm like, what was 2020, Catherine thinking? It was meant to be. And I walked in there being like, oh, no, I don't know anything about how these things work. I don't know how you were going to edit it. I was nervous.

So luckily it worked out. And I feel like the, I mean, the episode was really good. And I remember us all like having like a little moment and tearing up for a second. And then in my head, I'm like, okay, I'll never see this girl again. When you and Lisa kept in touch you on social media. Yeah. And then we went to New York and we met up with her like two or three years later. Maybe that was 2021 or something. No. 22. Yeah. So a couple years later, we went to New York and hang out with her. And so that's, that's been a fun. So we met through email thing to look back on. Yeah. Just you never know. And you were so nice. So I will say, I remember you being, I didn't know what to expect. This isn't judgmental. I just thought in my head, I'm like, I'm some nobody coming in here. Like you don't even have a reason. to even listen to me.

You were so nice and I remember you gave me the biggest hug at the end. Aw. Yeah. And I remember what you were wearing. What was I wearing? I don't remember. I was wearing a yellow long sleeve kind of like cut off baggy t-shirt. You were wearing some like crocheted cream top.

Oh, I remember that now. I think you were wearing that. That's what I was wearing. Okay. It had crocheted flowers on it because now I remember Lisa and I being at my house later and that's what I was wearing because I have a, a picture of us. Good memory. Wow. Yellow like your nails. Why do you bring that up? Because your nails are so yellow.

Speaking of feelings, I'm feeling disgusted by my nails. Okay. They were so cute like two days ago and I took all the nail polish off and then I thought that this was going to be cute and it looks like highlighters if you can't see it. Yeah. Kat says we can see it. I think it's worse than a highlighter. That's what you said when I texted you. I thought you were going to like reassure me and be like, oh, wasn't that bad. I texted you as I'm doing it. I'm like, oh, this was the biggest mistake. And I sent you a picture of it thinking that you'd be like, oh, don't worry about it. They look good. And you said, oh, that's worse than you said. You said, that's worse than a highlighter. Well, yeah. Because we can affirm each other all day long, but the color of your nails, you don't need my

affirmation. You need my honesty. Yeah. Yeah. Like if it was actually something that you couldn't change or help but this is a nail color don't lie to me I like I know and also also I appreciate this because I didn't like it so I didn't need you to like if I loved it and I'm like I love this nail color so much and it's so beautiful isn't it you don't really have to give an opinion right I'd be like good job but if you're right if I hated it and then you're you're you know it's ugly and you're like don't worry about it no help me out right right right right remove that. Yeah, it'll be removed tomorrow. This is days later. Are you still on? It takes me three hours to do my nails. Okay. Because that's like gel? It's gel. Yeah.

Kat does her own nails. She has a nail salon in her kitchen. Yes, I do. I know you wanted to come mine and come me. You're like, never mind. You want me to come over and get mine done. But maybe I will. Okay. So that is how we know each other. That's our origin story. And we were fast friends after that. And our friendship really has been easy. and I, why did you make that face? Oh, sorry. That face was like, oh, that was nice. Sorry. Oh, okay.

Let me tell you all. Kat just made some face that made me think like, don't lie. Well, it was, it's, we've had some kerfuffles in the last couple weeks. But that's work stuff. But I think also the kerfuffles have been easy. The kerfuffles are when you take, did I say that wrong? No, should we tell them the new thing that we came up with the other day, where you came up with it? S-I-B?

S-B. yeah you can tell them in a minute okay don't forget okay it's like you have ADHD and you tell your other friend with ADHD to remember something hopefully we'll come back to it hey we'll circle back yeah maybe five years later hey remember we were going to talk about that thing yeah okay so we'll get to siB but what was it you were saying that our relationship was easy okay yeah but the kerfuffles yeah the kerfuffles I think that when you have a friendship, anytime you change the dynamic and like, say you start working together, I think some of that was me figuring out how to work with you and you figuring out

how to work with me. I don't think they were real things. They were just kinks. Like, they weren't like friendship things. No, like it wasn't going to ruin. But I think we handled it in a way that showed us like, oh, wow. We have a very mature friendship and working relationship. And we are determined to not let our friendship get ruined by any work stuff because that happens a lot. Yeah. And I think neither one of us want that. So we're being very intentional. So the kerkofuffles are normal.

The kirkufufels are normal. SIB is Kat, well, you can say it about yourself, but if you want me to say it, but she's in a mood. You can say it. Okay. I've been snappy. She's been snappy. To everybody.

Well, actually, I think it's just you and my husband. The people you're closest to, huh? Well, you have people, the other people that you're close to, but you're probably talking to us the most. Yeah. So you want to explain? Yeah. I was just having a snappy day and then you, I think it's already, snappy few days. You're like, I'm going to keep you honest. I've been having a snappy month, honestly. Now it's a month.

2025 has been snappy for me. And I think I was already talking to you that morning about my just mood. And then you started texting me things. And I think you were at work. So you were texting short things. Like just. Right. Like here.

I fire stuff off. Especially when I'm at work. Like if I have a quick commercial break, I might be like, here, cat, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. And then you're like, wait, what? And so I was trying. I knew I was being snappy in my head. So I was like, Catherine, don't be snappy. How do you say this in a non-snappy way?

But I think it still came off snappy. So then. I had to send you a text that said, I'm sending this in a kind tone. I don't know if you can tell. And then you sent a really nice voicemail. Then we started voicemail. That was much better. And you were like, no, it's fine. I blah, blah, blah. I get it. And then you explained yourself. And then I explained myself. And then you said, we need a word that if we're ever feeling like we're coming off wrong, we can say, sorry, I, SIB. Well, I think I was playing off of W-T-W and how powerful that is, like wait to worry, which we talked about recently. but it's just like when you can just say WTW to yourself or somebody else, it's like, hey, boom,

when you both are in the know of what that means, it's like, huh, it's like exhale, WTW. And so we had just got done talking about that a little bit and how we love WTW. So I was like, we need something for this because I'm perimenopausal. You have other hormone situations stuff happening. And we need an acronym that can just like sort of shut it. in the bud. Yeah. Nip it in the bud.

Shut it down. Just regulate it. Help. Do you watch New Girl? No. I have before. Cat watches New Girl. If you listen to New Girl, you said shut it down in my head.

All I can think is shut it down. Okay. So shut it down. Well, we could also do that. Shut it down. They're talking about workplace romantic engagements. Okay. Yeah.

Shut that down. Instead of somebody comes up to you and is trying to engage in you in a sexual encounter at school, shut it down. But we can use that for ourselves. Okay. So we have, we, we, we, we, we should. Sid. Shut it down.

Yeah. Sid, but we have SIB. I like them. Which is, Sid, Sid, what is. Sorry. I. Oh. Oh yeah.

And it's not even grammatically correct. Yeah. So that way it's also a little bit funny because it's SIB. And so it's sorry I bit she. Why do you say it? Because then I was like, can we say that word. I think you can. But we typically don't cuss on our podcast.

But earmuffs. Sorry I. Okay. We're going to say the word and if you've got little kids in the car, turn it down. But that's, if you have kids in the car, shut it down. Shut it down. So anytime we're acting that way and we know it and we want to apologize for it, but we want to warn the other person, we just go, S-I-B and it means, sorry, I bitchy. I love the way you say it.

Sorry, I-bitchie. But okay, that's going to be so helpful for us. Yeah, S-I-B. And that's just like, have it with your girlfriends, have it with your partner. Like, you can even do that with Patrick. And you can just tell Patrick, sorry, S-I-B. And you don't have to explain it. Yeah.

You automatically know, like, oh. And then Patrick can be like, I'm going to W-T-W whether or not I'm still going to be married to you. He said the other day. I'm going to wait to worry. I snapped at him 15 times in a row, like over stupid things. At one point, I go, stop chewing your gum. Like, I was. That's literally what you're supposed.

to do with gum. Chew it. He was straightened it so loud. And then I was like, anyway, I just looked at him and he just was like, I love you. And then I was like, S-I-B. Sorry, IBG. I needed that back then. Oh, I felt so bad.

He's so nice. Yeah. Any more questions? Yeah. How to attract quality adult friendships when everyone is in a different stage of life. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans,

a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity, the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Poll Show, we're not afraid to make mistakes.

What Coogler did that I think was so unique. He's the writer-director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean it the president? You think Canada has a president? You think China has a president? Los L'Aque Rousette.

God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. It was a good one. I like that saying. It's an actual Polish saying.

Yeah. It is an actual poll. Better version of Play Stupid Games, win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift, who said that for the first time. I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On a recent episode of the podcast Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if ever. Everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here. We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about, like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family.

If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. How to attract quality adult friendships when everyone is in a different stage of life. Can I shout somebody else out to answer this? Absolutely. So there's... But also you don't have to ask that. Well, I remember this is one of those things.

This is part of a graphical that we had at the beginning. It's like this is our podcast now. I think when you're on fifth thing, which I never wanted you to ask anyway. I'm like, nobody has to ask permission, but sometimes you still do that. And then it makes me feel uncomfortable because I'm like, I don't want people to think that like you have to ask me. Wait, but I have a reason why I do that. Why? I'm used to at work always asking permission to do anything.

Oh, so your clients. So, and I think I carry that out with like friends. with different relationships is before I give advice or say something or change something, I'll say like, do you mind or are you open to or can I? I'm just used, I've trained myself to do that. So I don't even think I now. Yeah, but this, okay, but this is something. Yeah, I need to work on here. Obviously you're conditioned for it because this is like, they're asking how do you attract quality friendships? And then you're like, can I shout somebody out? Because it's not even like you're asking permission to like give a thought about some deep feeling that I have that might.

impact me you know like that's respectful to be like hey do you mind if I share this with you or can I tell you my thoughts say it again and I'm gonna practice we're gonna practice pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause if someone is listening to our podcast for the first time today ever they're never coming back yeah it's like give me 500 dollars you have inside jokes like pause pause pause pause pause pause pause shut it down that's a new one though uh how to attract quality friendships when everyone is in different stages of life. Okay, I'm going to shout somebody. I can't even say it seriously, but I was doing a good job.

I want to shout somebody else out for this because there is a therapist, a licensed therapist, who lives in South Carolina. She's moved a couple times. I think it's South Carolina now. It's a detail that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But my brain needs to say it. But I appreciate it.

Her name is Blake, Blake and Bechler. Her name is very hard to say. So pat on my shoulder. I've interviewed it before. She's great. She's awesome. You have to do, right? Yeah, I used to work with her too way back in the day.

And she is an expert on friendship. She even has a little card deck called the friendship deck that's really cool. She created that you can buy for developing your friendships. But she gives so much good free information and content on her Instagram. So if you want more information about friendships, head to her Instagram. I think it's at Blake and Beck and Black. At Blake. I'll look it up when I get out.

I'm sorry if you're listening, but we can link her handle in the show notes. So you guys can just click on it. Perfect. Yeah. Because you're not going to know how to spell it anyway. No question, but your hair looks pretty today. See what I did there? That's one of our listeners being hilarious and funny and complimentary and making us practice going,

thank you. Pass, pass, pause, pause, pause, pause. You don't have to say the pause out loud, but it's fun. When I did, because I put up this video with a question box on Instagram and I guess she's saying next to my hair is in a ponytail today. I've told you so many times today. I love your hair. You like the ponytail?

It's so cute. Thank you. Pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. And then our friend Katie Gustafson. Yeah. She left a little comment too, saying no question, just so grateful for these soulful and fun conversations. So those are just some of the ones that I pulled.

She's awesome. Yeah, she's great. Enneagram. If you need any Enneagram content. I did it. Nope, that's Instagram. I did her, I'm trying to look up Blake's account, but Katie's, I did her workshop with Ali Fallon once,

and it was so good. Like, so good. It's just at Blake, Blake and Beckler. You were right. Blake and Beckler. Blake and Beckler. Katie Gustaf's last name is hard too. Yes.

When I interviewed her on You Need Therapy, before we started, I said, can we practice saying your name a couple times because I want to introduce you as your full name. And I think we spent a good five minutes practicing it. God bless her for not being mad at me. Yeah. I just realized too I had my lip gloss in my lap this whole time. We were talking about this is not from Selena Gomez. What is it? This is the Linage. Oh. I love. And I bought the dupes before of lineage and they're not as good. Yeah. But you have the dupe of the Dior. And, and it is good.

Well, kind of. I have the Dior and then I have... The lip oil? No, I have their lip plumber. Oh. Best lip gloss I've ever had. From Dior? Yes.

It was just like expensive and I lost it and I said I don't deserve to buy another one because I lost it. Yeah. But it was amazing. If anybody ever wants to buy me a gift, you can send me the Dior lip plumber. Thank you? Well, maybe if you link it, you could afford to buy it. Or wait, I'm going to text Patrick. later and say buy me the duor lip plumber now two of them and i want different colors also i've never

tried the lip oil add that too because i keep having to buy the elf one which is the seven six or seven dollar one but i know i resorted to buying the one on amazon which was 450 oh so i bought the elf one and i thought it was good because it was a dollar 50 more oh dang well so the elf one is the one with color that you bought of mine that you love. That one's great. I think Rose Envy was the color. And then I bought on

Amazon the fake, but it's not an oil. Why are you laughing? I don't know. I'm just picturing you yelling that at Patrick. You know what he would say is you would probably say by yourself. Probably. I mean, but I mean, my boyfriend's just like

no. No. But I mean, I wasn't asking for a lip glass But I think even if I said, buy me this lip gloss now, he would just be like, no. No. But maybe he would say buy it yourself because he's like, well, your money is my money, so just buy it. But it's not the same. I want him to swipe his card.

Like when we go to dinner and he uses his credit card, I'm like, that was free. But y'all have joined accounts. Well, not yet. Wait, what? Because we, I haven't changed my last name yet. So I'm like, I don't want to go through because, do you want to know why? Oh, I know. It's a process. It's a process. And last year, his dad told me, his dad does my taxes. His dad is a tax accountant. Very nice for me. He said, wait until I do your taxes before you change your last name. But then we had a couple out of the country trips. I didn't want to pay for a new passport. So then new tax year comes around. He goes, well, don't change your name until I do your taxes. We haven't done my taxes yet. But we got an extension. I'm not like. You should W-2-W on that. Wait to worry on. Oh, yeah, yeah. So wait to wear on what, doing my taxes? Change your name.

Oh, well, so now we haven't joined our bank accounts because I don't want to have to join them and then go back to the bank again and change my name again. Okay. So now when you go out to eat and he pays, you're like free. It's free, even though it's technically our money. Yeah. But do you know, like, how much he is in there? Yeah.

Okay. You do? Oh, I know. There's full transparency. So that would be hard for me to be in a relationship lunchbox and his wife. They don't, I don't even know that they talk about it. They have separate accounts and he says she doesn't know what he makes and whatnot. Who knows how?

No way. Oh, I know what he makes. And also we have joint investment accounts. Oh. We just have separate like checking accounts. And two, we have separate credit cards. He doesn't know it's on my credit card though. So you can buy whatever you want and it's not like, hey.

But part of the reason I want to keep that is because when we buy gifts for each other, it feels like one, I want to be able to hide it. too. It's like, I want you to buy a gift with my credit card. Yeah. It's a mind game. It's a mind game. No, I get that. I'm feeling judgment from you. No. No, I'm over here just thinking about what I'm going to do. I wonder what I'm going to do. Yeah. Sorry, I was paying attention to you, but my face was probably like, am I getting to you, but I was thinking about myself. As many people with ADHD often do. I guess I'm just trying to like, I'm thinking about what you're saying and how y'all do. it and then thinking about how I did it in my marriage where I wasn't involved in anything but now I'm going to be and then I'm thinking about how lunchbox does it and then I'm like how are we really going to do it because we already have these established lives yeah my boyfriend's established and then he's got

three kids I am like have my own thing going I've got two kids and then like what he has his own investments there's no right way to do and I think that's the beauty of it is you can look at whatever else is doing and say what works for me And also you can change. Our situation is going to change when I change my last name. And then, you know, what thought I just have is what if he's like? Drainter big account. Will you sign a pre-up?

What if? What if? What would you say? No. I would have done it. Maybe I would. Now that I've been divorced, I might be like, okay, fine, I get it. But then I'd be like. You know what?

This is my thought on pre-naps. I almost said, can I share it? And I didn't. But then I said it anyway. Pause, pause, pause. So my thought, I told Patrick I wanted a pre-nup because my, because when you get married, you essentially sign a pre-up as a pre-nuptual agreement. We agree that this is what's going to happen to our money when and if we get divorced. So when you get married, you technically sign a pre-nup

just with the deal that the state has, has created for you. So in my head, if I'm going to sign an agreement when I get married that this is what's going to happen, it should be. one that I made, not just one the state made for me. But I have ADHD and I got lazy and I was like, oh, that sounds like a lot of work. So I didn't do it. Take a shot. Anytime you hear me and Kat talk about how we have ADHD. You'll be drunk. Yeah. Or you could like just take a shot of water because that might not be good for you. Well, you'll be hydrated. Speaking of hydration for our skin, before we do wrap, I do want to remind people that the Happy 25 code for the snail serum, is still working today through through the 30th.

So today's the 27th. So you got one two to do to do to do through through through through the 30th. Because I think they have another sale starting on the 31st. So at that point in time, happy 25, the code will no longer work. And Kat and I really do use it. I really do use Biopel. We only have the code from them because we used it. to not have a code. I would just post about it. And then then I was like, oh, I could post about it on

Instagram, or no, on Amazon. Yeah. Through Instagram. And yes, I get a kickback from that too. But like, again, if I'm posting it, might as well. And I love this stuff. It is so hydrating for your skin. And I realized last week we talked all about it. And then I didn't share any of the benefits at all. Like later, Shannon was like, oh, we didn't say like what. Why do you like it? Why we like it. But We love it for the glow. But it's a growth factor, and there's benefits of that. We use specifically the Ten Saj 40 ampules, and all of this will be linked in the show notes. But quickly, this is from the Biopal website and these snails.

They live on a cute little snail farm in Brazil. They're treated great. They eat like lettuce and carrots, and they're so cute. I've seen a whole video about them. They're having the dream. I think they're happy. And this is just like some sexual type secretion they release, and then we put it on her face. I don't know like how sexual.

I don't think snails have. It's not that. I didn't say it was sperm. Well, people put salmon sperm on their face. Yeah. This is some sort of secretion that maybe has to do with a something sexual. Don't talk about that part because it took me a while to get on board with snail serum that thought. Okay.

So just give us the benefits. That doesn't make it a little more exotic. No. Findum. So it improves skin texture, tone, luminosity, visibly. improves fine lines, reduces signs of photo damage, it helps shorten healing time. If you were to get a treatment, like if you, some people get microneedling or some sort of treatment, they can use the snail serum to heal up your face faster. So some dermatologist and stuff offer, may offer

Biopel, like as part of the, hey, this is part of your, you know, post-treatment. Regimen. Regiment, yes. But really, in a nutshell, I'd just say, I love the vitamin C in it, the vitamin E, and I love the glow. I'm telling you, when I used it, my friend asked me what makeup I was wearing. And I wasn't wearing any. And you're like, that is. It is snail. Snail.

Serum. Don't say sequitian. Don't say it. Therum. Okay. That is the snail serum. Happy 25 is the code. That's 25% off, which is this already pricey stuff.

We know that. We get it. But 25% off is the highest discount I've ever seen them give. Like sometimes there's a 20% off code. But this is 25 exclusively for y'all. So namaste. Namaste. We don't have an email of the day.

Okay. Well, Amy, where can they find our podcast? On YouTube. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. If they're already listening to this part, they're listening to it. Well, I meant like where can they find us online? Oh, feeling things podcast on Instagram. That's the handle.

And then Feeling Things Podcasts on YouTube. Yeah. And Feeling Things Podcasts on TikTok. Yeah. Follow us on TikTok. Yeah. Okay. I think we just went up some.

On TikTok? Mm-hmm. On TikTok? On TikTok. Yeah. We're about to hit 23,000 followers on TikTok. That's a lot. Yeah.

Oh, we have over 600 on YouTube. Oh, yay. That's fun. Yeah. Man, who knew growing something? We started at zero. Also, we can see the downloads of people listening and I'm like, I guess people are just so accustomed to listening to us on podcasts.

They're like not used to watching us on YouTube. And I don't know if people are coming across. this organically and maybe not interested. What do you mean? Maybe they are. Well, because some people, I don't know, like the millions and millions and millions of you people, like they just miss, that's like their thing and their, that's what they do on YouTube.

And then maybe sometimes they come across content. Like if they have a lot of views, it's piped out more. And then people come across them organically. And they're like, oh, I like them. Well, I don't know if anybody's coming across this organically. But if they are, are they sticking around? We hope so. As we continue to.

We would like to invite you to. You are welcome here. If you're coming across this organically on YouTube, you're welcome here. And we would love it if you would stick around. This is a safe space. Click subscribe. We promise to give you content that will keep you coming back for more. Which we're not sure if we did that today. But maybe next time. Oh, cryo cat goes, I love this. Oh, it's good to have supportive friends. Yeah. Which, yeah, to the one listener asking about friendships, we didn't really acknowledge this part, but that is hard. And especially when everyone's in different seasons of life. But Blake does have such good info that if you start following her, I promise, or somewhere in some episodes or interviews that she probably has

linked, like she will have addressed that topic because she really covers everything about friendship. So good luck with that. And yeah, we'll see y'all next time. Hope you have the day. You need to have. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes.

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