The Bobby Bones Show - AMY: Same Feed, New Feelings: 4 Things is Getting a Makeover!

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

4 Things with Amy Brown is getting a makeover! Starting April 1st, the podcast will change to Feeling Things with Amy & Kat. It'll still be on the same feed (you don’t need to change a thing), but now Kat Van Buren, the therapist you already know and love from our 5th Thing episodes and host of You Need Therapy podcast, is officially joining Amy as full-time co-host. In this episode, Amy & Kat talk about why they're making the change, what you can expect moving forward, and how you can get involved (hint: go follow @FeelingThingsPodcast on Instagram for a very good giveaway).This change reflects where we’ve grown and where we’re going: more honest conversations, more laughter, more depth, more stories, and definitely more feelings. Think of it as a natural evolution of everything we’ve already been building together.Thanks for being part of this journey with us. Change can be hard, but it can also be really beautiful. Like butterflies...which is why this is today's quote: “We delight in the beauty of the butterfly, but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to achieve that beauty!” - Maya Angelou HAVE THE DAY (OR THE EVOLUTION) YOU NEED TO HAVE! Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Vanburen // @KatVanburen // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast // YouNeedTherapyPodcast.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar. of, you know, the cat, just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Yeah. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth thing. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat. And well, today is announcement day. We teased that the 25th would be when we make our announcement of something we've been talking about for a while. And today's the day. And,

I mean, Kat, you would agree, change is weird and scary and scary, yes. And pretty much what we have to tell you is four things is getting a little makeover of sorts. And a lot of change has been happening over the last several months. And finally, on April 1st, the big flip will happen. Now, if change is weird for you and you've been a loyal listener from the beginning, you might be like, what? What is happening? But as writer and poet, Maya Angelou once said, We delight in the beauty of the butterfly, but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to achieve that beauty. So I don't know. Back in the fall, maybe, I was a little caterpillar and I went to Kat. We were at the nail salon. Aren't we? Aren't we getting our nails done?

Okay, so it was last August. Yes, yes. It was the day we got our nails done. And I just threw it out to Kat. Would you like to be a full-time co-host on the podcast? because I was doing four things on Thursday by myself and the bonus episode was the fifth thing. And she came on as my co-host for the fifth thing a few years ago. Like maybe three?

Then I got this idea after we got our nails done. And I guess I had been thinking there might be some change, but I didn't know what that would look like. And then I remember we left and I was driving in my car and I called you. And I was in, I pulled into my house and I was in my driveway. And I asked you. And I remember being a little bit nervous. but then you were like, well, yeah, I've been kind of thinking that uni therapy is getting a little bit much for me, which is a podcast that Kat was hosting.

And I didn't know how she would feel about sort of combining ours, although this is not a therapy podcast, and we'll get to what it is turning into. But with that quote, I think it's just a beautiful picture of we're about to turn into our butterflies. I guess we are now, because this is an announcement day. It's butterfly time. But on April 1st, we'll be taking flight. So I'd say back in August, we were a little caterpillars. And then the last several months, lots of months, gosh, that was a long time ago.

It's like six months. We were in our cocoon and we were turning into mush and trying to figure this whole thing out. And we're finally ready to emerge. So that is why the butterfly quote was very fitting for this. So drum roll, please. From the real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between. Sometimes the best thing you can do it just out and feel things. This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.

The podcast now has a new name. So it's no longer For Things with Amy Brown. It is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Feeling things with Amy and Kat. And Kat. So we're still working on things. But it will be on this feed.

formerly Four Things with Amy Brown. You don't have to change anything. Everything that you do to access this podcast is the same for you. You'll just see new artwork. And then obviously you'll hear feeling things. So Walker Hayes originally did my Four Things theme song. And he is a part of the rebrand. So we're getting a little Walker Hayes feeling things remix. And yeah, Kat is now a full-time co-host. Again, it's called Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. And our tag line is a podcast for anyone who's ever had feelings or wants to. And which is everybody. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I guess a couple people could be left out of that. They're like, I don't want to have feelings and I don't have them. There's hope, I guess. And then the description

is feeling things with Amy and Kat is a podcast for anyone who's ever had feelings or wants to. Hosted by Amy Brown and therapist Kat Bamburin. This isn't a therapy podcast. It's a space where nothing is off limits, from deep reflections on childhood to pop culture obsessions to what's happening in the world. All feelings deserve space, big, small, and everything in between. At its core, it's real friends having real conversations about real feelings. Some topics are heavy, some are light, but all are worth talking about. After all, in a world that moves fast, sometimes the best thing we can do is stop and feel things. Beautiful. Beautiful said. That's the description. We also have an Instagram for the

podcast we'd love for you to follow it's at feeling things podcast cat secured that good job and we will be loading up some content as we gear up for april first so make sure you follow and we'll be in the stories both of us interacting with you all we look forward to that and we're going to do a little snail giveaway as well i know sometimes incentive it helps but i'm obsessed with snail serum i gave cat some biopal tin sage 40 it's a 10 pack of this amazing snail stuff i gave it to her two years ago and she never used it that's a lie i used it two months ago no i was getting to that point you didn't let me finish you took you two years to use it what i was saying is yeah you finally tried it a couple months ago and what you're obsessed i'm obsessed with it yeah this is a big deal so your initial

feeling about it was this is ridiculous i'm not putting snail stuff on my face thanks for the gift Damie, but I'm going to keep it in a drawer. Thank God I didn't throw it out. Yeah, because that 10 pack is $150 value. Well, I only had, I didn't have the whole pack. I had a sample. Oh, I didn't give you the whole 10 pack. Which, rightfully so.

I didn't deserve it. Okay. Well, I thought I gave you the whole thing. Okay. Well, good. So you just left a one little amp-ael. It was like two, yeah. Two little ampules.

Okay. So this is a win-win for you. You get to follow along with me and cat. And then you also. get a chance at the 10-sage 40, the snail serum. So we'll be giving away a ton of those. And that's just a fun little thing. And we'll do other giveaways on there. And just to give you a breakdown of what the episodes are going to be like, well, let's start with Tuesdays. I'm used to the four things layout, which it started with just every Thursday episodes. And then Bobby and I were talking,

we were like, we should do bonus episodes. Well, we thought Tuesday was the best day. So it was weird because four things were on Thursdays. And then the fifth thing was on Tuesday at the top of the week. It always felt a little weird backwards. But that's why we're changing. Changing is good. We're evolving. It's part of being a butterfly. If you're not evolving, you're dying.

You're dying. Exactly. So let's start with the top of the week since that's what we do now here. So Tuesday is going to be Amy and Kat chat type situation, maybe occasional interviews, guests that come on. But really, we want to just keep this conversational with me and Kat. Like, we're your girlfriends joining you for whatever it is you have going on. It's going to be casual. There's no rules, free flow, whatever stories, pop culture things,

things we're learning, things we're unlearning. And then on Thursdays, we're stealing a page from Kat's Unique Therapy podcast and we are doing couch talks, which that'll be our listener Q&A episode. Where you guys can just send in anything that you have questions, whether it's for Amy, whether it's for me, whether it's for both of us. A topic suggestion, something you want to go over. we will be bringing back the voicemail line, although I will say emails were way more popular than the voicemail line, which I always found confusing. Like, I want to hear y'all's voices. So when we bring that back, I'd love for you to call. I would love to do live calls, like get people on and interact with them. Like talk. Hey, this is da-da-da-da, instead of just giving a response and then they

can interact a little bit. So that could be on the horizon. I'm putting it out there. It is on the horizon. And if you want to hit us up, you can now. You can start. emailing us hello at feeling things podcast.com. Hello. It's me. What? What's the song? I was saying, hello from the other side.

That's what I was saying. Oh, the same song. Isn't I say hello? Hello. No, it doesn't say it's me. It's maybe. Anyway, people won't forget that now. They'll remember hello at feeling thingspodcast.com.

And we would love to hear from you. Again, April 1st is going to be the first episode. This is not an April Fool's joke. I was telling Kat the other day when we were going over the calendar. or you're like, yeah, let's do it on April 1st. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's April Fools. And I was like, oh, it's also the day my dad died. And I'll never forget that because obviously the day died. Yeah, I don't think you would forget that anyway. Well, dates get a little tricky. Like, I know my mom's is October 27th because it's the day before my sister's birthday. That was a little

rough. But like, I don't know if it was actually assigned to that. Sometimes they might be like, shoot, was it the, you know, 22nd or was it the 23rd? Because sometimes you play that game. But now April Fools is my dad. And I won't ever forget that because we kept thinking, this would be the ultimate dad prank. If he's on life support and we unplug him and then he's like, just kidding. You know, I'd be like, how do you pull that off? April Fools? He didn't know.

He never woke up. Obviously. Obviously, I'm feeling fine about it. I think time has passed. Offers levity. I mean, we were laughing about it in the room as we unplugged him. Which honestly, might have been nice to have some levity in. Probably one of the hardest days. Oh, yes. Because, I mean, with my mom, her body went naturally. And then with my

dad, we had to unplug him. There was two very different experiences. But I ever tell me the song that was playing? So when you unplug someone, you don't know if they're going to pass away in a minute, three minutes, or three days. You don't know. And the doctor told us from what he could tell, it would happen rather quickly, but he can't guarantee anything. So my sister had a playlist on on loop. Shuffle. Is that how you say it? A shuffle on my dad's iPad. And when the doctor said, okay, he's gone now, that song with Dolly Parton, and I can't think of his other name, he's a Christian artist. They have a song together called There Was Jesus. And that was the song that was playing whenever the doctor was like, it's time. And then right after that song,

Amarillo by morning came on, which so my dad was like two-stepping. I've told that story I know on the podcast award, but I don't know if I've ever told it to you. But anyway, We're not going to talk about sad things like that sometimes, but hey, sometimes we will because feeling things is a podcast where all feelings are welcome. And sometimes you may not know your feelings. So this is going to be a good way for you to get to know all the different feelings that are out there that are out there. And Kat has made this feelings wheel. I made my own. You can find them anywhere, but I made one that made sense with how I have categorized and looked at and kind of learned how to access my own feelings. If you need that, we'll be. We need that. We're not. We're not. We're

have that for you. And we're going to do a newsletter. Once we get that up and running, that'll be incentive. You can type in your email and get the feelings. And we'll send that to you. Yeah. Yeah, as part of that. So how are you feeling about the announcement finally being out there? A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clever Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, Somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

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He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How are you feeling about the announcement finally being out there? The feeling I have in my body is like relief. Because I feel we've been holding this in for what, six months and teasing it.

I guess originally my plan was, okay, we'll announce it in January. And then we'll announce it in February and then we'll announce in March. And now here it is late March and we're launching April 1st. But that is patience because it just wasn't the right time. Right. It would have been rushed. But I also feel like you, I don't know if this is you in all aspects of life, but you really just wanted to blurt it out. And it was hard to hold it in. Yeah, of course. Now some people, especially like they listen to the Bobby Bone Show, they might understand sometimes I spoil things. But I don't. mean to. I get ahead of myself and I blurt out things that sometimes might be a key part.

Because you're excited. Yeah. Well, I'm just excited. I'm not thinking like, oh, that's not something that's just known. Like, I'm thinking before you watch something, you may already know this is sort of what's taking place. Like, I'm not giving away the whole picture. But then oftentimes, inevitably, there's a listener that will email in and say, Bobby, Amy, spoiled this for me. I had no idea that that was going to happen. And I'm like, shoot. But is it something that's in the like commercial? That's what I think, so I get ahead and blurt it out. But it must not be because then Mike D will fact check it. And he'll be like, yeah, sure not.

She spoiled it. So now, do you know on the show, like, I'm only allowed to say, like, if I've watched something, I'll be like, I watched Paradise. I think that's one I kind of ruined a little bit too. But if I was reviewing it, I'm just allowed to say, I watched Paradise. I give it, you know, five presidents out of five. That's it. What's that mean? Well, you get five out of five stars, but you pick something from the show that has to do with it.

And so there's a president in the show Paradise. So I can just say the show and if I like it or not, basically. Got it. I'm not allowed to give any other thoughts or details around it, which Kat and I will be talking pop culture type things on here and even shows at times. And I promise I'm going to have a little bit more to say, but I'm not going to spoil anything at all. We're going to do your best to try not to.

Because I think I know what you spoiled in Paradise and I don't think that's a spoiler. Really? Because I got in trouble for the same thing. Oh, and it's what the show's about. Well, thanks for having my way back. Yeah. You see what's here on the table? A feelings will, but it's not mine.

Well, it's called an emotional barometer. And so, like, you spin it and then you go to the thing that it lands on. So instead of talking about anything else, we can just kind of close with a feeling. Because I do think that that's what's going to happen in the episodes is you're going to learn about more of your feelings. And you're going to learn new types of feelings. you're going to be able to assign new language, I guess, to how you're feeling, because sometimes you can't, you don't know. I don't know how to say how I feel. But when you have a wider vocabulary, you can. And so we'll slowly but surely start to cover all of that. And again, it won't be heavy,

like all in one episode where you're just getting all this information. It's kind of like you're talking with your girlfriends. And you have a mix of everything. You walk away from, you know, the happy hour or the hang. Do you ever have that with your I mean, I know you and I have it together, but I have a couple of other friends too where when I'm going to go on a hike with them or get dinner with them or happy hour, I know I'm walking away with a little nugget. Fun and a little nugget of wisdom. Yes. One of those people being Ali Fallon and Gracie, Oakler. So this is a little nugget that you're going to get and it'll be like weaved in, but it won't seem like an overwhelming thing. Okay. Do I pick a spin it? I want to spin it. But then I'm going to have to find it, but just spin it. This isn't a, how do you, that's why I thought maybe I wanted to just draw it. Flick it.

Oh. What is it? Can I re-spin it? No, what is it? I got weepy. Oh, okay. Well, weepy it is. Except for we should probably just draw it because spending it, I have to find it.

Oh. Okay. So, oh, found weepy. Sorry. Dang it. As I was doing that, it came across it. Okay. If you're feeling weepy, we're not actually crying at the moment, but the tears are far closer to the

surface than they normally would be. a whole host of relatively minor things threatens to set us off. See, I've been this, but I don't think I would ever be able to say, oh, I'm weepy right now. What would you say you're irritable? Probably, or I'm on the verge of crying. Strangely, they aren't the grim things we might associate with crying. They're things that feel especially beautiful, tender, or pure. Oh, I'm weepy all the time.

Now it's taken a shift. We might feel our eyes moistening at the same. the sight of something delicate like flowers breaking through the hard earth after a long winter, or a parent and a child chatting together in a cafe. The kid is talking about a penguin they've seen recently in a book, or a friend who greets us in an unusually warm way, or a moment in a film when a moralistic father makes up with his wayward son. The source of our weepiness is located in the place where the troubles of life collide with what is still kind and good in the world. The loveliness we see in a film, in a park, in a book, makes the

actual ugliness of day-to-day life all the more vivid. We want to cry at poignant reminders of a kind of paradise that's ever more elusive at what we crave and have been exiled from. Ooh, weepy's deep. Yeah, that wasn't not what I expected. Yeah, me neither. So see, I didn't even know really what weepy was. Shout out to we do. So we do want weepy. You almost didn't want it. I'm weepy all to tell it. Oh, guess what? We're not done. There's some more on the back. These cards are so cool. Again, it's called emotional barometer. You can get them at the school of life.com. I got them at on site. Oh, this actually like stands up and stuff. You can put on your desk. Yeah, they had this in the gift shop at that therapy retreat. I went to. Okay, here, continuing with

weepy. If we were to consider the unusual project of trying to create a robot that could feel weepy. We would have to do something apparently rather cruel. We would have to ensure that this robot knew about suffering, that it was able to hate itself and feel loss and confusion, for it is against the kind of background of pain that beautiful scenes become deeply important rather than merely nice. Our weepiness is telling us something key, that our lives are tougher than they were when we were little, and that our longing for uncomplicated niceness and goodness is correspondingly all the more intense. When we are weepy, we don't need to be cheered up or told to feel grateful for the good things we still have.

Ideally, we'd like the sorrow in us to meet the sorrow in another person. It sounds odd, but perhaps we'd like to weep quietly for a bit with someone else who understands. And I feel like that was the perfect one for you to spin the wheel on because as I was reading that last part, I have a sense of gratitude for four things and all that it was for so many years and where it started and how it evolved in itself and then now what it's becoming now with you. And there's like a tender spot for little me that started that then and then who I am now. And I'm grateful. So that last part just made me think like there's some.

some weepiness and to the loyal listeners that have been with us the entire time and will continue to be here. Thank you. And if you happen to be listening to this for the very first time ever and you're like, oh, I was just really excited about getting into the fifth thing. Well, this is the last one. Okay, but you kind of have it all the time. Well, there's lots of other fifth things you can still go back and listen to. I assume I'm just going to ask Morgan. All of that will stay on the, yeah. So boom. Morgan confirmed that. everything will stay up every four things episode ever done some actually i wish would go away delete and die and never come back uh but they'll be there forever and then you can start with feeling things which we'll

figure out how we're going to be numbering them but there are hundreds and hundreds of four things for you to listen to and thank you to those that are with me throughout a lot of those if not all of them and by hundreds of I don't know the exact number. But more, oh, wasn't you, Morgan? I was doing some numbers with Fawzio the other day. And I think she said that we were about to hit like 25 million downloads. I thought you're about to say 25 million episodes. No, that would be a lot.

I'd be dead. Over a thousand episodes, you think? We haven't hit a thousand yet. That's why I don't know it's in the hundreds. But which obviously some of those downloads are repeat people. It's not the same people. But just over the years. And some episodes, you know, have way more than others.

Can't explain it. don't know why, but Kat and I hope you'll listen to every single episode of feeling things every Tuesday, every Thursday, never miss it because we want you to be with us. And thank you for letting me join you on this. Thank you for accepting. And you need therapy will always be alive too. People can go back and listen to that, which is something that I'm going to be doing like on this Thursday's episode and next Thursdays before we lead up to April 1st. Katten will be with me in a little intro, I think. We'll see. TBD. You'll have to listen to find out.

But I'll be setting up some of your You Need Therapy episodes so people can listen to it on the Four Things feed. Yeah. And I want to add too, you just remind me of this, unique therapy and Four Things is part of the reason we even met. Outweigh is. Well, yes, but that was part of Four Things at this time. So that kind of those things brought us together and now we're kind of combining them. Yeah. So it is like a sweet phase of life.

Mm-hmm. We're emerging. We're still in our cocoon though, so give us a week or so. We'll come out April 1st. All right, we hope y'all are having the day that you need to have. And we'll see April 1st. Oh, and we'll also see you on Instagram. At Feeling Things Podcast.

And I'm at Radio Amy and you are at Kat Van Buren. Bye. Bye. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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