The Bobby Bones Show - AMY: Staying Curious, Making Changes & Sipping Proffee (Protein Coffee)

Episode Date: August 31, 2025

Amy & Kat are bringing their curiosity to the table this week (about everything from whether you’d tell someone they had food in their teeth to why certain big podcasts have broken up!) The Feeling of the Day is Relief, as Kat finally changed her last name a year and a half after getting married. They talk about the double standards that come with changing a name and what men should have to do that feels equally inconvenient. Fittingly, they discuss why “a wife is the cheat code to life” and they share their current obsession: proffee (protein + coffee) + a discount code (below) for their go-to protein right now. It’s an episode full of curiosity, laughter, and real talk about relationships, life hacks, and little things that make a big difference. Protein Code: The code is FEEL20 at IsopureProtein.com and that will save you 20%. The Unflavored Whey is what they like in their protein ball recipe that they’ve talked about multiple times and it’s also what Amy puts in her iced coffee every morning! Click HERE for details on the Top Golf fundraiser Amy is hosting with Ben for foster kids in Nashville.  Watch us on Youtube HERE! Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // threecordstherapy.com // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I'm Kat. And we've got our feelings of the day. I'll start because mine is more of a question with a feeling. feeling because I'm curious. My feeling is curious about what you would do if you saw something in someone's teeth, but you didn't really know them that well. Let me give you the scenario. So I'm at my house and I just chopped up this salad and I was eating it. And then these workers came, they weren't going to do the work at my house, but they were coming to sort of assess the situation and plan out, I guess, how they're going to do whatever. So three guys, three at my door. And I walk around

my house with them for at least 15 minutes. And then they leave and I look in the mirror and I have a big piece of lettuce right here on my tooth. Nobody told me. And I'm like, okay, and here's what we need in this room. And then over in this bathroom, this is broken. And I'm sure I'm just like, you know, and now all three, I'm sure they walked out and they're like, do you see that lettuce in her teeth? So like, do you know, there's no way they didn't see it. There's no way they didn't see it. I'm talking about dark leafy green. Okay. It wasn't like iceberg.

No. Not. Dang it. A light piece of romaine. No. We're talking like mixed greens, the purple one. Oh, no. Yeah.

And you were probably really smiley too because you're really friendly. Well, yeah. And I think that one of them made some like joke at some point. And then I was like, oh, yeah, ha ha. And so I definitely. Yes. Yes. Like the vibe was good.

Like I'm like, oh, I like these guys. I'm glad. I mean, I've actually worked with them before, but I hadn't seen them in a little bit. So it was sort of like, hey, how's it going? I'm sure I was like, how are you? And I have a lettuce right in my tooth. So what would you do? Well, I guess I'm like, well, yeah, well, would I do?

Would I just know that it was there the whole time? And she's just at home. Like, say I see it in somebody else's teeth and I'm at their house. I'm like, she's not out in public. We're not at home. I don't want to embarrass her, be awkward, but being like, oh, you have a something in your teeth. But I still would like to know. So I guess I've debated what I would do and would I say anything? And I guess if I was being hired by somebody and I don't want to make

them feel uncomfortable, then I'm just not going to say anything. But now I'm also uncomfortable knowing that I had it the whole time and they didn't say anything. I think the hope there is is that they don't say anything. They don't have to address it. And you drink some water and flush that out before you see it. And then nobody knows. That's the hope. That is nailed it. That is the ideal situation. However, it's not what happened. I have a mirror in my kitchen and walked by it whenever they left and saw it. And I thought, oh, my goodness. Well, that was fun. And, you know, I have a boyfriend. It's fine. It's not like I was interested in one of the guys. Thank God. Well, one of them was kind of cute. Oh. But whatever. She's a boyfriend. Cryo Cat.

Cryo Cat single. She's like, did you get his number? I mean, I have his number. He's doing work at my house. hopefully he doesn't listen to this. Hopefully he does. Yeah. Hopefully he does listen because then we have more male listeners. And then he next time can be like, you know what, we should have addressed it. And I'm sorry. I thought I was doing the right thing.

And apparently, like, I've learned something. Thank you for talking about it and spreading awareness. I'm picturing like contractors when they're at work. Like what they're listening to is likely not feeling things. Like, hey, bud. So what's your feeling of the day? that was me like spitting you know because like guys you know like I'm just picturing like people working and be like like they're dipping like you're making like a tune noise so am I feeling

the day is gassy you're just thinking contractors who just partying around no no they're hard workers like they're working hard and I just picture them being like all like you know and all their tools and being like, man, I'm just feeling confused and grateful because you know, two feelings can be true at the same time. They are listening. Hey guys. Next time, tell me that I have spinach or lettuce or whatever in my teeth or whatever it is. It could be a chia seed.

I don't know. Oh, chia seeds. Oh, my gosh. I can't. You know what you were so right about? 100%. And we're going to get to your feeling of the day in a minute because I'm also curious. about that because I know you have a whole story that I've been waiting to hear, you know, update on

your personal life. Yeah. It's big. I feel it's big. It is big. But I want you to say this because I need the validation. Cat needs the validation. I, Amy, admit to you, Kat, that in our protein balls, which is our first cooking show ever that we uploaded. Our first of two. We have two cooking shows. We have homemade pasta and protein balls. They're both chef's kiss. Is that the thing? I say, yeah. Except this, but you're up to say. So I noticed, because I've been making, I pull up our post anytime I need the recipe. It's not that hard. You think I should have it memorized. But I just, I get nervous. I want to make sure that I've got everything right. And I know we omitted the chia seeds out of the video, I think. I deleted that part out of the video

because it's part of the recipe, but while we're doing the video, cats, like, I really think we should leave the chia seeds out. And I'm like, no, it's fine. We're going to leave the chia seeds in. So we do, and we make the balls for the video. And then we have to eat. And then we have to eat those and they have the chia seeds in them and they are getting stuck in my teeth left and right and they are so annoying and that's what that's what you said they would be and I was like no no no cheese seeds for life like I'm keeping them in well I delete it out of the video but if you go down to the recipe part which is in the caption I still have cheese seeds in there so I actually need to go in and edit it and delete it because we don't need to send people down that path

because emotional distress picking cheese seeds out of their teeth. The only time you should be eating a chia seed is if you're home and nobody's going to come over for a while and you're eating by yourself and you can brush your teeth after. Because those pesky little fellas. That is what they exist exactly what they should be called. They should be renamed pesky little fellas seeds. Wait, we could have a brand of chia seeds called pesky little fellas.

But pesky little, people aren't going to buy that. P-L-F-S. P-L-F-S. but like why would we wouldn't be the worst sales people ever because we'd be like buy you're a plus but we don't even need them why are they called that and like because they're annoying and like well and I don't want them well if you blend that they are they do serve a purpose and they can be good for you they're great for you so you can blend them in a smoothie and you'll never have them stuck in your teeth like you just really blend that smoothie though yeah but I think once you do or yeah

They're pesky little suckers. They're not just fellas. They're little suckers. Yeah. PLS. Yeah. I used to eat, well, I do make those to eat in between like therapy sessions. But when I made a batch with chia seeds, I had to not eat them at those times of the day because I had 10 minutes to eat that and then like go rinse my mouth out.

Oh yeah. And like you're with a client and you sit down. I would be so distracted. If I was in a therapy session and my therapist had chia seeds and her teeth. So you would say something. I guess I really don't know what I would do till I'm exactly in that situation. I would like to think I always lean, just tell them because someone would rather know. But also the cheese seeds you can kind of feel.

Like one time in the car, I got one stuck and I had no other way. And I had like dig in my bag for a piece of paper and then get the paper and like dig the chia seed out. So we've omitted it from our protein balls. Go make them because they are so good. I've been making double batches. In fact, my boyfriend's kids, like the last time I made them, I made a double batch for my house and then for his house.

And he put them in a bag that night. the next day by 1 p.m. He's like, they're all gone. They've eaten them all. And I'm like, well, now I'm going to need to do triple batch, which is a compliment to our protein balls. Way to you. You made that batch. And so I highly recommend people make those.

And then I do need to do everybody a favor. And I need to go into the, because I know to admit it. But if other people are just now finding that recipe and they're like, oh, I want to try these and they're doing the cheese seeds and they're going to be annoyed with us because I'm like, oh, these. pesky little suckos. Now they're stuck in my teeth. But protein balls are legit. That's one way. We're getting extra protein. I'm also getting protein through my profy. Protein coffee. Profi. Profi. Profi I like better. I use my vanilla almond milk and I mix it in with my coffee and it's my little latte with 25 grams of protein. Not just any protein, high quality, I superior protein. I'm glad that we're talking about this because my favorite breakfast is a sesame bagel with butter. How many room

protein are in that. I don't think any. None. But now that you're saying this, I can have my bagel and I can have my profy. Yes. Listeners, they can do it too. We have a code. Feel 20. You can try it for yourself at isopureprotein. Boom, you pop in Feel 20 code at checkout and you're going to save 20%. Unflavored. That is very key. And your whey protein in here. Creamy vanilla is legit. Like I can add that into smoothies and omel, no problem. It's good. That's a game changer because you add the vanilla. And it just adds a little extra like umph. You're going to think I'm crazy, but also in my oatmeal, I will sprinkle sea salt on top. What?

I don't know. I just love salty sweet. I'm going to go get a profi and a bagel. Would you like one? Proffy. Profi. All right. Now to your feeling of the day.

Okay. This isn't that crazy, but also it feels crazy that I did this. I feel relief because I did an adult thing today. And I have changed my last name. I feel like I need to put my profi. Profi. Profi. I need to put it down and I need to clap for you.

Thanks, guys. That's probably one of the more annoying things. Like, there are women out there that have been married for five, 10, 15 years that have wanted to. Now, some women, they don't want to do it. That's fine. Respect. Others, they have wanted to do it and they just haven't found it in them.

And I would like to say, you have a disadvantage. You have ADHD. I know. And I'm, thank you for acknowledging who I am. We need to acknowledge your, where you are. Yeah. I don't know why I went low, ADHD. I could still go high. Yeah. We need to acknowledge, but wherever the normal brain is that would just be like, I need to go change my name. So I shall set up an appointment and go change my name. Like, that's not us. So. Thank you. And I probably, how long have you been married? A year and a half. Perfect. I feel like that's solid. Yeah. Very, very reasonable. I probably did it in a really bad time. But I was like, I have the appointment. I'm already planning to go. I've already talked myself into going. I have to do it. But I'm also in the midst of selling and buying a new house. So I'm sure that makes the paperwork a little bit confusing because my ID and my social security name now don't match. Because here's the thing. I could go on about this and I'm sure you could too. I'm sure any woman who has changed her name could go on about this. You don't just go to the social security office and change your name. You do that. You fill something out online. Then you go there. You have an appointment, but you still have to wait an hour and a half, even though I've The appointment actually takes all of three minutes.

You do that. They give you a piece of paper. You can do anything else until you have that. Then you have to get a new driver's license. Then you have to get another appointment that you have to probably hours of your life. Then you have to get a new passport. I don't think that takes hours of your life. But it's expensive.

Then you have to change all your bank accounts. Then I have to change my professional license. Then I have to like change my car is in this name. My this is in this name. Like everything. It's like there's a million things to do. And it's hours and hours and hours. And I'm like, what can we make men do that is equal to this?

Because I don't get it. Oh, yeah. We got the short end of the stick on this one for sure. I think that your husband should have to go with you to every appointment. Yeah. Well, technically he's paying for it. Well, if you have combined accounts, some couples keep everything separate. Yeah, he doesn't have to do anything.

Like, I also have a lot of anxiety. And I do not love going to new places where I don't know what it's going to be like. So I was texting somebody who has done this. And I was like, okay, what do you do when you get there? Like, are they skis? scary like what do you sit somewhere like snacks yeah i just wanted to know what i was getting myself into and if you are going to nashville i will let you know it's really simple you just go in through a door you check in on your phone you sit there and wait until they call your name it wasn't bad but that

was part of why i haven't gone also because i'm like oh this feels scary but if my husband went with me i wouldn't have that fear awkward moments are not awkward as much when you're with somebody else yeah like when you have a buddy. Yeah, which also makes me think I'm having like a squirrel thought. When you go to a friend's house, like you've never been to their house before, do you get nervous? A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

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Like, if I'm going to- The lay of the land? Yes. Like if I'm going to somebody's house. So like, where's the bathroom? Where are the exits? Not so much that, but like, am I going to go knock on the right door? Oh, okay.

Like a lot of times when I go to somebody's house for the first time, I'll tell you. text them, be like, I'm here just making sure this is the right place before I go knock on their door because, oh my gosh, can you imagine? Knock, knock, knock. And it's like somebody's grandma. Like you're at the wrong house? Not your friend's grandma. I don't know. I'm trying to think the last time I went somewhere new, like a house that was new. Crayo Cat just brought up. We went to our friend Jen's house one day to lay out the pool and she was already laying out at her pool. And her house is rather, how shall I put it, large and beautiful. And yeah, I think I was a little intimidated, but she's so cool and down to earth. I think it depends on, like for me,

it's not just any house. I think it just depends on who I'm meeting because she, but she's so cool and down to earth, it felt comfortable. So I'm trying to think of any time I felt awkward or uncomfortable going to someone's house. I guess I just don't, I don't have that feeling like you do. You know what I love? Okay. What? When you're going to a party somewhere and they have balloons on the mailbox. That's helpful. So shout out. If anybody is planning a shower or a party for anything. If you're inviting a large amount of people, one of those people was probably nervous about coming and nervous about going to the wrong door. So if you just put a little sign or something, so they know. I appreciate balloons on if it's difficult to find like any corner leading up to the

event. Like I like signs with arrows and balloons because that's really good for my brain. Because looking at a map, I do get nervous, but I love when it's like, oh, left here where the balloons are. And then you'll see more balloons to turn right. And then, You'll see the house that's got balloons. That's legit. But that definitely takes thought and time and planning. I don't really know what kind of party I'm going to that has that. But I know that I've had that situation before.

Like a wedding. Like a backyard wedding? Reception. Boom. Yeah. That has been like out somewhere that's not easy to navigate. And then you have balloons that guide you. It's legit.

Yeah. It's like I could just have that on a Tuesday going to somebody's house. You didn't go to my, I don't think you were at my wedding shower, were you? You would, yeah, you would have. No. because I would remember. I know where it was. I can't remember why I couldn't go unless it's that you didn't invite me. You were in my wedding. I'm just kidding. I know. I don't think I could, I don't think I could make it. I don't remember why. But a reason. It wasn't like just no reason. Don't feel like it.

It wasn't like, eh. My sister-in-law and my brother live on a farm. So their house was really difficult to get to. You literally why people were like driving down. There was a bunch of cows in the middle of the road that they had to like honk at. It was like a welcoming committee, I guess. I would have loved that you actually would have loved it it was cute well up close cows because they smell and there's a lot of flies around them it's fine anyway I think she had to put a balloon on the mailbox because you literally turn and you're just turning into a farm versus like a house so people like that I think she knows to do that but I'm saying even if your house is on a very normal street and the house number is very clear still balloons might help your anxious friends yeah so keep that in mind and maybe the social

security office, she put the balloons on the front of their doors. Yeah. Like, you're here. You're at the right place. Yeah. Speaking of becoming a wife and you changing your name, Patrick's last name, like, he got you as a wife. And then you went and did all this awesome stuff for him today to, like, be Van Buren. Yes. With him. Yeah. Like, he didn't have to go do all this work and be a daffada. No. And you know what? Isn't that interesting that you grew up with daffata and then you married into Van Buren? Like you have cool last names either way. I will say I had a hard time deciding do I drop defa or do I drop my middle name. That was something that I considered with my mom too.

And I ended up keeping my mom did her maiden was Christopher and on her license. It said Judy Christopher Moffat. And so I followed suit like she did and I did Amy Moffitt Brown. Oh. And then eventually I went back and I changed it because I missed the Elizabeth because I love my middle name. So I'm just saying I had it Moffitt Brown for a while. And you changed it? I changed it to Elizabeth. Interesting. So I kept my middle name because it's the same thing. Like,

I love my metal name. And it was my grandma's name. And I just like like having that. And I almost kept Defada too, but that was like, that's so annoying. Catherine Mary DeFada. Van Buren? Like, what if you hyphenated Catherine Defada Van Buren? Well, so you know, we've been reading Family of Liars. Their names was, was it hyphenated? They said a double-ass name. They had Taft-S and Clair. all of the daughters were they kept yeah good question i guess i don't know why it's that way i assumed because both families were prominent yeah you know so i'm like i could have and also patrick why didn't we have the conversation that you would also keep my name yeah why is he not patrick van buren defada if you hyphenate let me ask you this yeah which one goes first yeah which one goes first

defa vamburin sounds better i know i guess you can choose which way you want to hyphenate it but probably more times than not just a mouthful yeah you think Yes. Catherine Defada Van Buren is a lot. I told you my name that my mom called me when I was younger, right? I'm trying to remember it right now. I know you told me. We had it on air. We had a whole thing. Of course I don't remember it because it was long. Catherine, Brittany, Denise, Linda Defada. Get your butt in here. Yes. Catherine Mary, Elizabeth, Francis, Sally, Brittany, DeFada. So what if it was Catherine, Mary, Elizabeth, Francis, Sally, Brittany, DeFada Van Buren.

Bam. What if I went to the Social Security office and they're like, what would you like to change your name to? And I was like, well, Catherine, Mary, Elizabeth, Francis, what would they say? I mean, you can't. I mean, they were a little cuckoo for cocoa puffs for sure. Well, maybe I mean, I guess they, yeah, they can't stop you. But like, Chad, Ocho, Cinco, whatever, that football player, he kept changing his name to stuff. Really?

Uh-huh. I don't know who that is. Yeah. Meta World Peace, like lots of different names. I think it's really, really funny that you're like casually. Do you remember what it was? almost like you were testing me. And it's like 10 names.

But I got. You can't remember? Yeah. I know. I really wanted to try. And then once you started doing it, I was like, there's no way I would ever remember that. Maybe one day. A real friend would.

I'll surprise you. Oh, a real friend would. Okay. Tell me it again. Well, you're going to have this on video. You can go back and watch. But Catherine, Mary. Because that's how I spend my free time.

Watching your own video. I'm cringe. Go ahead. Catherine, Mary. Elizabeth. That should be easy. Catherine, Mary, Elizabeth, because it's mine. Okay.

Francis. Francis. Sally. Sally. Brittany. Jesse Raphael. I was thinking too. Okay.

Well, you are a wife, right? To Patrick? Yes. Obviously. I am. And to anybody else that is listening, there's a wife. I was a wife. I'm no longer one.

You may be one in the future. I might be one. And I shall be a gift because that is what we are. I saw this entire article about how a wife is the cheat code to life. So men, find yourself one. Okay, I want to hear why so I can. Okay. Married men outperforms single men across the country in nearly every category.

Married men have higher income, 10 to 40% more than single peers. That's a huge 10% to 40. 10 to 40% higher. Yeah. I get that's a huge difference. But still, even if it's just 10% higher, that can be a lot. Yeah. Lower risk of depression with a white.

better physical and mental health, greater career stability, longer lifespan, more productive, less likely to engage in risky behavior. I'm keeping my husband safe. Uh-huh. So wives multiply everything because a good wife doesn't just support she multiplies. She multiplies your efforts, your discipline, your legacy. Basically, in a nutshell, it's saying men expand when they have women. And I'm sure we probably expand.

too, but like I think we're already pretty awesome. They go on to say that for a woman, her intuition is unmatched and men often lack that. So then when you've got a good wife, a good partner in that, and then she also can be your mirror. She can show your blind spots, not to shame you, but to shape you. As you're saying this, I'm like, yes, companionship, like relationship that would elevate. The more we have close relationships, the better that we are in life, whether that's a spouse or not. But I bet this is different for men. I haven't read this research article if that's where this came from. But my assumption would be because men struggle so much to have vulnerable deep connection. Like when they're with the guys, I mean, I feel like

this is a tale as oldest time joke right now. Like my husband will come home and be like, so-and-so's getting married. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, how did they propose? I don't know. I didn't ask. Like, is he excited? I don't know. I didn't ask. What's the girl's name? I don't know. I didn't ask. I'm like, so he just said, I'm getting married and you just said, okay. Like, they don't have these where girls are like, oh my gosh, tell me everything. How are you feeling? They just don't have the opportunity to connect the same way, which is also shows up in how they're supported too. Like, I think Patrick has a great group of friends that are very supportive. But the support I give him is a deeper emotional, more, I think, an all-encompassing kind of support.

So that's probably why this is different for men than women, because we already have that as women with our female friendships, but men lack that. And so we come in and fill that. That can be very exhausting because women are doing it for women and now they're doing it for men and very exciting. I love that. Thank you for that perspective, licensed therapist. You're welcome.

DeFada Bamburen. Mary Van Buren Sorry, Catherine Mary Van Buren Do you think it would be weird If I went by Catherine Mary No Even though Mary Catherine

I would feel like it was more of a southern thing Like it's free to have like two names But it's supposed to be Mary Catherine True But I would just think Oh look at her She likes to do things opposite She's unique

Unique New York Unique New York How now Brown Cow How now Brown Cow A win is a win A win A win I don't care what I'm saying.

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But I thought about buying one at Target the other day. They're at Target? Yeah. They're at Target. I don't say it like that. I don't know. But they are there and I saw it. And the only thing that stopped me is I really wanted to drink it.

Like, I needed something to drink. And I wanted it then. Like, I wanted it now. There's nothing else? Well, no, there was. So I ended up getting just water. Have you watched her documentary yet? I have.

Okay. I liked it. Okay. I thought it was good. I learned a lot about her. I haven't listened to her. But I thought the documentary, being that I didn't know much about her, I was very intrigued and very impressed. I think she's a likable person. But for anybody who doesn't know about like the rebrand of Call her Daddy, yeah, because I never listen to that. It's going to make her so much more relatable and likable. And I think I might not listen every week. But there are a lot of episodes I listen to. Speaking of, I just listened to when I was telling you about Renee Rapp didn't really know much about her. She's so cool.

Okay. I'm going to have to go check out that because you, I don't. I don't think I know who she is. She's like unapologetically herself, but not in a like, I was about to say insufferable way. I don't know. I just liked her. I was drawn. Like in an authentic way. Yeah.

Because I think sometimes people are trying to be unapologetically themselves. And then it's like, it feels off. I think there's probably some things that her PR team is like, oh, no. But it's working. Oh, well, yeah. Yeah. Is what it is. Yeah.

I don't even know Alexis Earle. You know. It's not her name. What's her name? Alex Earl. Alex Earl. Alex Cooper. That's why I was like so crazy. It's not Alexis? No, it's Alex. A-L-I-X. Oh, maybe that's why. I just know what I see on social media because I haven't followed a lot. I don't listen to their podcast. And I don't, I'm not even an Alex Earl fan. I just know that she is evidently from the get-go who coined the Get Ready with Me videos. Oh, yeah. And that's how that sort of started. And I know she's huge and made a name for herself and has crazy. brand deals and whatnot. But I guess she started a podcast under Alex Cooper's Unwell. And then

now there. It's called hot mess. It's called. Okay. And now they're donezo. Dunzo. Like what that's the T I want. And I don't even know, but I would like to understand what happened. Because I think just as, you know, and then Alex Cooper, her original co-host on Call Her Daddy, they did not end on good terms. They must not have SIB. Yeah. They just had the little S. Like, hey, SIB. Yeah. Yeah. FII. S-I-B. They need S-I-V.

I am really curious because I was, like, deep in the Sophia and Alex breakup thing. I was so interested in that because it... The original co-hose and call her daddy? Okay. And, oh, gosh, that is a bummer for her. See, I only knew about her because of the documentary. Okay. So, like, I didn't listen to call her daddy back then because it was very different.

By different, you mean, like, very sexual and vulgar and raunchy? Yeah. It was not my vibe. But also that's a marketing genius. Like she knows what she's doing. And I was watching her documentary and I was like, dang, if I could be more like her, that would be awesome because that would make me, I mean, who knows? I'm sure there's other people that have tried to do that and they didn't get $60 million

deals. But I would never. And like, I don't have some of those stories to talk about anyway. But also like her family and stuff like would listen and like go to her shows. I know her dad's like in the audience. I think her parents are super cute. And I guess I like the way they can be open about that sort of stuff. And it's like a safe space.

Yeah. And it seems like her grandma and her mom, like they raised them like, let's talk about everything. So she obviously felt comfortable doing that. But yeah, I don't think I could ever talk about those things. I mean, I think also as a therapist and as a professional person, I couldn't probably do the things that she was doing. Not just talking about like sex and stuff. But I mean, she just was a character online doing funny, crazy things. And you do it until it works.

I'm sure a lot of people were like, she's so weird, but like look at her now. Right. And I mean, there's stuff she'd had to shift because even with HR, she's like, oh, you know, probably shouldn't be advising people to do X, Y, Z. And she's had to mature and grow and evolve. And she has. Yeah. Anyway, when her and Alex got together, it felt like it was like going to be this cute, like, mentorship thing. Because I think Alex is in her early 20.

Alex. Alex Earl is in our early 20s. Alex Cooper is, I think, 30, 31. Wanish. So I was like, oh, this is so cool that they can mentor each other. So I've been trying to do a little sleuthing, but couldn't tell you one thing. I have some ideas, but they're not rooted in anything. So it would be kind of gossipy just to share them. But I think both of them are going to probably capitalize on that story at some point. It's just when. There are multiple podcast duos that have just split without explanation. I just see the drama unfolding online.

I don't know them because I don't listen, but it just makes you think, like, I'm glad we have a solid foundation and relationship that what if one day, like, or me, but I snap. Or you just, one of us just disappears. And we don't talk about it. Like, how do we address it? I mean, I get certain things being private. Like, I've had certain relationships that have ended and what has unfolded is private. I'm talking about relationships that are in a work relationship that is very public together, like a podcast. Let's just leave podcast is the only example of what I'm talking about, because that's actually

these relationships I'm talking about online. And it's weird how it sucks you in, because some of them, I click on TMZ or this article or this thread about what. And I don't know these people at all. And next thing you know, 20 minutes has passed. And I'm trying to figure out, like, why their podcasts broke up and why they hate each other and what happened. But isn't that interesting that you're more, you weren't interested in their podcast. You might not have even known about it, but you are interested about the drama of the podcast. Maybe it's just that I want to figure out what happens so maybe I can make sure like, I don't want this to happen to us, which I don't think it will, but I wonder what that, because I don't deep dive on every quote unquote breakup, but I guess

something about the podcast splits I find interesting. Did you say there's another one that, who's Dax's? Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay. Well, I think there's way more to this. So Liz Plank was a co-host on the Man Enough podcast, which is a really good podcast hosted by her, Justin Baldoni and another guy named Jamie Heath, which I know a lot of people have feelings about all of that. And then she also had a podcast. We need a family chart. Dax Shepherd and Monica have... Armchair expert. Monica had a podcast with Liz Plank called like Cycles Sinking or something like that. And it was on the armchair expert feed. That went away. I think Dax Shepard got a new deal somewhere.

And that podcast went away. And then Monica and Liz are no longer friends. And then Liz also left Man Enough. And I think Man Enough just collapsed because of all of the drama happening with him and Blake lively. So I'm just curious. Like what happened with Monica? Because they were best friends and had this really seemingly fun relationship. And what happened with Justin Baldoni?

Because Liz hasn't said anything about it. Which I think is okay. is okay because I've had things in my life I'm not going to say anything about and I think it's out of respect for the other person so I can appreciate that so while I am still curious and that's sort of the theme of this episode because I was curious if you would tell me if I've lettuce in my teeth and I'm curious now if you should hyphenate your name or not and then I'm curious about some of these podcast breakups but also I respect that it's none of my business if we don't get all the details and it's like okay fine I may never know and it's not like I spend yeah

It's not living rent-free. Like some things in my mind do like, where is Amy Bradley? But, you know, still don't know. But I respect it. Because people ask me about things in my life that I'm just not going to address. I'm just not going to. Yeah. And it's out of respect.

I guess I shouldn't use the word never, ever, ever. But at this point, I'm not. And if I ever did, it would be from my perspective and my perspective only and not. You know what I think. heard anybody. I hear what you're saying and this, that's a different. I think, I have to like get ready to say this. It's not that big of a deal. I'm like putting my stuff down. Let me get ready. I think that a lot of people who are not speaking about certain things, a lot of people are not speaking about things because it's respect, it's their privacy, it's them having boundaries.

I think other people don't say things because they're waiting for the best moment to share some big news. Like there was Sheena Shea, Shea, I do love Vendipa rules, RIP to that cast. But she just recently came out with, and this is like, I haven't read the article, I just read the headlines, but like her, I guess husband cheated on her while she was pregnant. But she didn't share that information while it would have been like more pressing on the show, which could have created a whole storyline on the show, because I think it's when the whole sand of all thing happened. So she's like, I have this big bomb. I don't want to let that fizzle if this other thing is going to take over, right?

So I have to find a better time. So she waits two years and then she shares it. Now, this is me speculating. But, like, that's an example where people might not be sharing things just because they're waiting for the right time. So we just have to be patient. So they can profit off of sharing their personal information, which they should. Or sometimes people, yes, like there was that bomb you're saying, but like there could be a book deal. And like their book is coming out.

And they're going to put it in the book, which I could see waiting to save it to put in the book. And then now it comes out. I think it's smart. I'm saying that like not as a bad thing. I'm saying like that's smart. Like sometimes we just have to be patient because like if they're going to share this part of their life that's so personal, which I don't know that I would. Let them make some money off of it. Let them.

Shoot. Oh my gosh. I don't think I told you this on the Bobby Bone show. Ray read ChatGPT wrote obituaries for the main cast of the show. Wait, that is so dark. So morbid, right, but whatever. It was also entertaining. Okay.

So they wrote it for Bobby, Me, Lunchbox, and Eddie. So four obituaries. And Ray read them. And Chad GPT ended mine with something like, I can't remember exactly, but like everybody that attended the funeral got like a choose joy bracelet and like a let them. tattoo or something. I'm paraphrasing, but it ended with let them. And I was like, no, no, no, let them. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, no, I, I'm, you know, no, let them. Let them is okay in certain circumstances, but I'm not an overall let them

theory girl. That's interesting. I know. Maybe, but maybe because chat GBT, it pulls things from, and because we have maybe the let them theory deep dive, then maybe it associates that with Amy Brown. And so then they're like, you know, because it had the choose joy in there. And it had like that I was going to have, what are the essential oils at my funeral. And, you know, I put essential oils on my dryer balls. Oh, yes. So like things that I've said are things. things that are out there, it pulled. At your funeral, I thought that that was funny. You're going to have a choose joy bracelet and a it depends hat.

Yes, it depends. Choose joy, but not always. Because maybe you don't need to choose joy. When it's appropriate and it depends when that is going to be. Which is the whole thing with Pimp and Joy and my mom wasn't, it was more that my mom was spreading joy and then choosing joy of herself but also leaning into the hard moments. Like for my mom, Pimp and Joy was Nehemiahe. 10, which is the joy of the Lord is my strength. So I'm going to have joy and I'm going to spread

joy. And she would just talk to everybody at the hospital. That's why when Walker Hayes wrote the Joy Like Judy song about Pimp and Joy for my mom, he put the line in there that was stood out to him the most was that he was like, she'd even be talking to people in the elevators because my mom, who talks to people in the elevators? And especially when you're on your way to like you're feeling horrible and blah and you're going in for chemo. I mean, my mom felt like total crap and she would make it a point to be like oh I love your scarf or you have a pretty sweater or how long have you been coming here like she would make conversations just especially to the people that were there alone because some people my mom never went to a treatment alone and we would

see people there all the time alone and that's got to be hard so anyway that's pinpoint joy spread joy all the joy maybe we serve profi oh god pro fee you got it we serve pro fee say it with a english accent. Profi. You're so profy. Okay. Protein coffee. It's delectable. You just take the coffee and you take a little milk. I prefer unsweetened vanilla almond milk with a scoop of unflavored, isopure protein. It'll give you 25 grams of high quality protein. Like, why is everything more fun in a British accent? Why does everything sound better in a British accent? Like, it sounds more credible. I mean, I mean, I'm credible. Like, I use isopure protein.

Like, I'm credible. I'm credible. You do sound smarter. British me? Doesn't it sound more like delictible? Elevated sense. Elevated. Like, it makes you want to try it, doesn't it?

I think. Do you want to put it in your oatmeal? You mean my protemeal? Oh, yes, your oatmeal with protein. I forgot proteamil. Ooh, how about creamy vanilla? Say creamy. Creamy, creamy.

How do you? Cremmy vanilla. I think. that English people sound more educated. Well, Americans also, I'm watching the Gilded Age right now, and that's obviously... I think you've been watching that for years. I have. The new seasons back. Oh, it's like...

Season four, I think. So the way they spoke, I mean, this is New York society, and I love the way they speak. They'll shout not. Indeed. Oh. Oh, indeed. Oh, take a seat. You must be famished.

I'm like, oh, dang, I'm starving. Anybody got some isopure protein? And then the bit, it's like, oh, do you want some isopure with that? Would you like some profy? Yeah. And, oh, guess what, Kat? We have a code. The code is feel 20.

Feel 20 at checkout. Is there a word that you wish you said in your vocabulary? What do you mean? Like, a elevated word that you want to integrate into your, Oh, like I said, like a word I just. Yes. Like you're like, I want to start saying famish instead of this. Or I want to say like, well, I sort of just started using it today.

Is it coffee? Delectable. Oh. Hmm. Fantastic. No? Fantastic is not like it. Well, what are you the word police?

I don't. Wait. Do you have one? No, but I think that. Delicious. I think you use that word. I just have been thinking I, listen. into a lot of audio books and I'm like I want to start reading them because I don't think I

take it in as much of the like the new habits. Yes. And I want sometimes I think that I just like am grabbing for a word that I don't have in my head yet and I need more words. So you want to be a thesaurus. Yes. Yes. Me too. I was real proud of my son the other day and I don't know why but I guess I know why but I guess I shouldn't be surprised right. I don't want to be like wow. You used a new word today because you're not. I'm smart. You used a new word today because you he's going to be 15. So it's like, wow. But when they do new, maybe it's because English is their second language. Yeah. When they do use new words, I find myself being like, hey, all right. I mean, I try not to like make a huge, I just low key like in my mind. Do you like get out some emergency

confetti? Yeah. I'm like, wow. But my son was asking me a question about cancer and because like both my mom and my dad had it. And then he said, well, so if somebody else in your family has it, which this is a conversation we have never had before. And he's using this word. You'll hear it in a second. And I'm just like, where would he have picked up on that? Because I don't know that it's a word that he would have learned in school unless they've talked about it. Anyway, here it is. So he just looked at me and he said, so does that mean that you're going to be more prone to get cancer? And in my mind, I was like, he just used prone. Like I was just really impressed by that because I don't know that that's a word that gets used a lot.

And we don't talk about that in our home. I mean, he knows that my parents had it. But I've never been like, that means I might be more prone or susceptible or... Maybe it was... I was impressed. Maybe it was his... Prone. Prone.

Maybe it was his school's word of the week. Because when I was in middle school, we had the word wizard. And the word wizard would come on the announcements every Monday. And a wizard costume and share with us in the word. Okay. It was our assistant principal. I am going to ask him if they have a word of the week, but I was just, I loved that he used the word prone. So to your point, we could do that with ourselves, like maybe be our own little word wizers and give ourselves new words to use.

And then, have we done that before? Yes, it didn't stick. It didn't stick. We did the word of the week. On the fifth thing, we did it like twice. But we picked words that were like, not good. They just weren't like. Beautiful.

Pretty. What did you say delicious? Your word of the week is delicious. Its definition is it tastes good. You're, oh, exquisite. Good word. Cryo cat. Exquisite. You have exquisite taste. Yes. This profy is delicious. You must have exquisite taste. There you go.

That was really hard for me to say. I feel like you're reminding me of parent trap. Lindsay Lohan's character that's British. She sounded like that, you know, because she's playing both the American and the You know the difference I see between me and you? Well, you have class. I have class and you don't. I feel like I just sounded like not the parent trap.

She had a cute voice. That is such a cute movie. Parent trap, I love that. And Lindsay Lohan, like talk about comeback. Like she just was doing a bunch of press for the Freaky Friday, new Freaky Friday movie. and I'm like, yay, I'm celebrating that comeback. Like, Lindsay Lohan seems to be doing really well. She lives in Dubai.

Yeah. Did you know that? Yeah. And her husband is like one of the wealthiest men. Oh, really? I guess I didn't know that part. I just saw her talking about how she lives in Dubai. And it's great because taking pictures of people there, like celebrities or just normal

people is illegal. Really? So she can't, you can't pull out your phone and start recording somebody doing anything. Okay. Well, we hope that you're having the day that you need to have. And if there's any takeaway from this episode, it is stay curious. And drink your profy. And drink your profy.

And don't forget to use our code. Feel 20. Feel 20. Isopureprotein.com. We should say it in English. Isopurepotein.com. And that link will be in the show notes. But really, if you want to join us in trying this and upping your protein.

Woo. Like us. Subscribe. Oh, you were saying like us. Like us. Not like and subscribe. I mean, we're trying to be so intentional about our intake. Yeah.

Our consumption. Good word. Yeah. Just like every word I could do this. I just have to stop and think, like, what's the elevated word of eat? Consumption. Consume. Consume.

I consumed some chicken for dinner. Yeah. Okay. We'll work on this. Okay. All right, Kat. Until next time. I hope you have the day.

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