The Bobby Bones Show - BobbyCast #604 - Caitlin and Bobby talk Birth and Baby in Special Q+A

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Caitlin and Bobby take questions from listeners and talk about how the last couple months have gone as parents! Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on T...ikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Everything here is spontaneous, real and genuine, just honest conversations about what it means to be alive. I'm Javier El Chicharito Hernandez And listen to Learning to Be Human on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. All right, welcome to the Bobby and Caitlin Show, the Caitlin and Bobby Show. Yeah. We're going to answer questions because you don't trust me to just run this normally. What do you mean? You don't trust me to just bring up stuff to talk about?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Oh, I trust you. You said ask and we'll answer questions. No, because I thought I thought you were just going to ask me questions off the top of your head. Will that be part of it? Yeah, I don't. Have some posters.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Do whatever you want. I have a Weezer poster. Oh, that's what that is. I have a green Weezer poster, Arkansas poster. Up there, I have a saved by the bell poster. They're going on in the other studio. On the wall?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Thank God. I was worried. That's what those posters are. Okay. Okay. I'm just going to go Raldon. from the questions. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Number one, what's the best thing about being parents? This is from Jill Korn, J-I-L-C-O-R-N. You go first. What's the best thing about... You go first.
Starting point is 00:03:33 The best thing about being parents. I think that... It's bizarre that there's a human that's created from two people. And I think a lot of that novelty wears off quickly with folks when they have a kid because there's no time to think about that novelty.
Starting point is 00:03:53 There's not a lot of time to invest in thinking about how crazy it is that sperm and eggs make a child whenever you are always paying attention to making sure the kid is alive. It's when I think back, there's a reason that poor people don't have great existential thoughts.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You know, why? Because they've got to work and they have time to think about existential things. And so I feel the same way about parenting is that I think we would be like, this is crazy all the time if it wasn't constant focus on attention on the baby. So that's not an answer. The answer is it is definitely fortified the unit. I agree. Like us together, us with her. It's a, you know, we're the bike. There's not a kickstand on the side,
Starting point is 00:04:38 holds it all up. It's crazy. So she's a kickstand. Yeah. She holds us up. Yeah, right now. I love that. Yeah. So I would say that. Okay. What do you think? The best thing about being a parent right now, just the immense amount of joy that I get from Billy from her existence. Like I knew I would love her, which it's a whole different type of love I have never felt. But I knew I would love her. I just, I don't think I ever thought about the joy that would come with it. And I have so much joy. Like I, I think I enjoy life more. I find things funnier. No, you find really dumb. things funnier. But it's because I'm so joyful. Like I just burst with joy every morning. Like I can't believe that Billy's here again today, every day. So I think the best thing is just having so much joy,
Starting point is 00:05:36 so much happiness that comes from her being in the world. Did you not think you would have it? I never thought about joy specifically in having a child. No. Not that I didn't think I would have it. I just think it's something I hadn't experienced at this level. Am I not making sense? No, that's fair. Okay. Has having a baby improved your marriage? This is from Bear H.N.
Starting point is 00:06:13 We just came from therapy a second ago. And he asked us, hey, have you guys been doing on time together? and my answer was, and you didn't give a reaction in therapy, but I don't know that there was an expected reaction. My answer was, you know, we kind of have dedicated this time to getting this early snow globe part of pregnancy, right? There's a good eight, ten, twelve weeks where I told myself we wouldn't be concerned with our dynamics specifically,
Starting point is 00:06:46 like to make sure we have time. We just need to get into a rhythm and then, and I told him, if you ask me this in four weeks, I'll probably have a different answer, but I feel like we're good, even though I feel like it's made our marriage more, it's more fruitful. For sure, we have a real life fruit now. But I don't think that you and I have done a lot of stuff just together. There's not been really time for it. I mean, we're together all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:12 But? But we have, Billy with us. Yeah. But what was the specific question? Has it made your marriage better, improved your marriage? I mean, I think it's made us love each other more. We've both talked about that. Do you feel that way?
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah, in a different way, for sure. What do you mean? Oh, love each other in a different way. Yeah, of course. Like, you know, I obviously and told you many times how much I loved you being my wife, but now that it's watching you be a mom, it's a whole different kind of love.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's like you pulled the curtain and there's a whole area that you didn't even see. Yeah. That now you're like, oh, wow, I didn't even know that area was open to, it didn't seem like that area was closed, but you didn't even know the area existed to be opened. Yeah. So, yeah, I would say that. Yeah, I have the same feelings toward you. And also, I was talking to Keaton about this, I guess, right after Billy was first born.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And it was like one of the first pictures I sent her of, you and Billy, probably like day two of Billy's life. And she responded and she said, doesn't it make you love him more? And I just said, yeah, because you, you are not only my husband. It's like, you're Billy's dad and Billy's half of you. And I love this baby and I love seeing, you know, you and her. And yeah, it's wild. It's just a new, a new level of love and appreciation that I have for you for sure. This is from AM Reiser. What's the biggest surprise to you about being parents and having a newborn?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Biggest surprise to me was the damage it does to a woman's body to have a baby. And unless you've actually, like, been a part of that, I don't think you really know. You know, I'd heard, you know, women are pregnant. It comes out. But I don't even really know firsthand. I only know, like, first and a half hand. But, yeah, the significant damage that it does, and it just makes me angry at our health care system,
Starting point is 00:09:20 that there's not, you can have time off that getting fired, but that doesn't mean you have to get paid to be fired. Or that doesn't mean you have to be paid. Right. So like legally you're protected 12 weeks, 20 weeks. I could probably look that out. But it's not legally you're guaranteed to be paid. Correct.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And that's what sucks. You just can't be fired for it. Yeah, I don't know how women do it. You got to go back to work? Yeah, horrible. Three, four weeks after you have a baby? Horrible. Yeah, so to me, the biggest surprise is really how hard
Starting point is 00:09:49 it is, I don't even want to say normal, but to get back to feeling healthy again after you have a baby. So, and that's not even me. That's just what I've witnessed. Yeah, I mean, I guess I would copy you and say that. I feel like it's almost unfair because you get to see all the questions and go through and pick them and you're definitely picking ones that you have answers to. No, you're the, no, for sure you have answers to the ones you're picking. So I feel like I'm taking a while. Well, I went first and talked. You could have thought the whole time I was talking. First of all, my brain doesn't work. My brain has lost, what was that TikTok I sent you? 5% gray matter. 5% gray matter has been reallocated to Billy. So I feel like I'm operating on about a third
Starting point is 00:10:34 grade level in all areas right now. But I would say the biggest surprise, I don't know why I think surprise is a negative thing. My surprise could be a positive thing as well. Yeah, my association with the word surprise is only positive. But that's not positive what you just said. Yeah, it is. I've learned about it. It sucks for you. That's not a positive surprise.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I guess it wasn't negative either, though. I just didn't know about it. It's pretty negative for the woman, the healing process. But yeah, I would say that's a surprise is just how long it takes to even sort of begin to feel like you're healing. It's a while. Physically, hormonally. All. I mean, physically I'm feeling a lot better.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Hormonally, I'm still all over the place. And I know they say that takes a long time. But so I guess that's a surprise, just how intense the hormones can be. And the moods that come with them. It's a lot of the same questions. Really? Okay, to ask, just go off the other.
Starting point is 00:11:45 No, no, I'll ask them. But I'm saying there's a lot of people, for example. will you ever show Billy's face? Congratulations to both of you. There's a lot of that question in here because people don't know what other people are asking. So you can answer that one if you want. No.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Right now my answer is no. I see that being my answer for as long as I can make decisions for Billy. I feel very intensely that as her mom, and I know I'm just speaking as her mom now, Bobby has his own feelings on the matter. Like I, it is my job to protect her and I feel that this is a way that I should protect her. She can grow up and decide she wants to share her face and that's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:38 But as of right now, for me it's a no. I think that everyone makes decisions based on their own circumstances and I don't have no judgment towards anyone who is choosing to share their child's face. For our circumstances, I think we've been through things that are pretty gnarly over the past. How long have we been together? Nearly seven years? Six and a half. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I don't even know what year it is. But we've been through some pretty intense things that we haven't talked about, but just know they're intense and they sucked. and we're over those. And that was really hard on both of us and extremely hard on me for years. And I can't imagine putting Billy in a position to where she would ever have to go through something like that. So I know that that has certainly guided my decision, but I am saying no. We will not show her face as of right now.
Starting point is 00:13:44 we're always able to change our minds. I know that, but I feel very strongly right now that I don't want to show her face. Who does Billy resemble the most right now? Ooh, right now. Hmm. I don't know. She's starting to look a lot like my baby pictures.
Starting point is 00:14:04 In the beginning when she first was born, I would say she resembled you quite a bit. And now I'm definitely seeing more of myself and her. What do you think? I think a little bit you're begging to see more of yourself in her. I think there are parts of her face that's yours. Okay, then I'm not begging if there are parts of her face. Her nose is your baby knows.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah. You've tried to do the baby picture thing to me and I'm like, I don't know. But I don't really see you and her right now. Okay. Do you? You don't have to take shots. No, that's not a shot. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I'm not one of those moms that's like, don't tell me that my baby looks like her dad. I don't care about that. But I mean, she did. I would prefer her not to look like me. Or do you still think she looks a lot like you right now? More so than you right now, yes. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah. Face shape, eyes. Face shape. Yeah. Yep. She's a chunk in her face. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. She, I don't know. It's hard. She definitely has certain angles where she looks a lot like you. And I think she has angles where she looks like me. And I think it was maybe it was Eddie that said to us like, like whoever knows us better. Whoever knows you better will think she looks like you and whoever knows me better will think she looks like me. And I think that that's been pretty true.
Starting point is 00:15:16 if it's like my friends that I send pictures of her too they'll say that they think she looks like me however some of your people have crossed over into my camp like eddie's wife thinks she looks more like me i think eddie's wife's in your camp though if we look at friends i think edie's wife is in your camp edie's in my camp josie today was like she's looking i sent her the video i sent you she's like she's looking like her mom yeah i think they need to say that and good please okay whatever How was your first trip away from the baby from Ash Harris? You.
Starting point is 00:15:50 How was your first? I've been away from her. You. Well, we just went to therapy without her. Oh, I think she's talking about Austin. Oh, it's good. It's fine. Caitlin's parents were here.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah. Your parents were here. So I think I would have had much more of an issue if it were just you. Thanks. Not because I don't think you could handle it. Obviously, you do. But I'm saying I think I'd have been more concerned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And I would have felt the need to check in constantly if it were just you. Not that I could have done anything, but because your parents were here, I didn't feel that need. Yeah. Three adults. Two of them have already raised many children. So, yeah, that's it. Hmm. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:16:32 How is baby Billy? I'll just rattle some of these off. She's great. She's an angel. What's the weight of the baby and how she's sleeping now? I don't know her weight right now. You had to guess? I mean, if I had to guess, 11 pounds.
Starting point is 00:16:51 How she's sleeping? Great. She's a really good sleeper, thankfully. Arkansas or Oklahoma for college. Oh, we talk about this. This is the dumbest conversation we have because Caitlin does not take the side you would think she would take because obviously you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:17:05 well, Caitlin must be fighting for Oklahoma because in my mind, there's only one option and let's go to Arkansas. Okay, let me talk. Well, I'm giving you time to think. Don't you want to think? I don't have time to think about this because we have this conversation.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I say to you, I like Oklahoma because I was born there and raised there. You like Arkansas because you were born there and raised there. We don't need to steer Billy away from liking her own state. I'm not saying she has to go to college at Tennessee, but I'm saying... You sing Rocky Top and that's not even who you are. It's a great state song. It's a great... It's arguably I think it's the best state song. I don't know any other state songs. Really? Oklahoma. No, but nobody knows that. Even though. Even though. Oklahomaans probably wouldn't know that. I actually think a lot of people know that because of the musical. That's your state song. That's your state song. Oklahoma, Oklahoma. I actually don't know if it's our official state song. But I'm, but that's Rocky Top, I think, Tennessee's official state song about a state. Well, West Virginia Mountain Mama, that's a good one too. Again, but that's a real, that's a pop song from John Denver. Okay, but I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:18:07 okay, regardless. I'm, anti- Tennessee. I know. How are going to Tennessee? Okay, that's fine. if you, but I also think that we don't want her to grow up not liking the state she lives in. And we live in Tennessee and she's a Tennessee baby, which is weird for us. But I don't think we need to discourage that love. Like I want her, how sad would it be if you grew up and people like were forbidding you from liking Arkansas? And you live there. They wouldn't have. But that's my point.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Like, we can't do that to her. So if she wants to be a little rocky top baby, that's fine with me. Not an option. That's fine by me. Not an option. And best and worst thing you bought for the baby. Best and worst thing. Like probably something we bought and we use and something we bought and we don't use as much as we thought we would.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I will have to think about the worst thing. The best thing that we bought for the baby, I would say we didn't even buy for the baby. And it's that big pregnancy ball that I bounced on when I was pregnant. But that's not a pregnancy ball. That's a gym ball. No, it's, I mean, it was specifically a pregnancy ball. Really? That's the same.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I'm sure they're all the same. Yes, I'm sure they're all the same. They just market them different ways. But that one is the one you're supposed to bounce on towards the end of your pregnancy. And that is the number one way to get her to calm down if she's crying is bounce on that ball. So it was like $10 on Amazon. So that's a great thing. Another thing that we have that she really likes is that swing, the Graco swing.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Oh, yeah. She just got into that. Or Grace, though. I don't know. Yeah, she really loves that. How do you spell it? G-R-A-O. It's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Because I remember my mom had some of that brand for my sister. And I remember thinking, oh, that's so lucky because her name was Grace. And it was almost Grace on everything. Oh, yeah, one letter off. Yeah, I thought it was so cool. The worst thing we bought for her, I really can't think of anything. I can. I'll go best.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And I've talked about this like 72 times. And I know it's not a new thing. but the fact that a rubber ducky tells you the temperature of the water so the water's not too hot for your baby, A plus. Yep. We have one of those. That's a good one. Love it.
Starting point is 00:20:16 The thing that we bought that we don't use is that first infant bath that we just donated. It was literally like a small bathtub. What we found that works for us is it's this little thing with holes in it. It's its own bath, but it takes the water from the bathtub. Yeah. So the thing that we have sits in the water and holes come up in it and it allows that water to get in it. The other thing was just an independent bathtub.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I don't like that. We needed that one at first because she was too little to get in the other one. I don't like it. And actually my parents got that for us from Target. Well, it's not their fault. Hey, wow. I feel like that to me wasn't the one. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I understand what you're saying, but we had to use that the first couple of weeks because she couldn't fit in the one that she is in now. So it was actually very helpful. Thanks, mom and dad. I'm sorry about him. I didn't know. Thanks, mom and dad. That they're the ones about it. This was not a shot of your mom and dad.
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Starting point is 00:23:26 All right, listen up. The Jonas Brothers here. Our podcast is called Hey Jonas. We're here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app. or wherever you listen to your podcast. This is the Bobbycast.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Hardest adjustment going from no kids to a baby. Hardest adjustments. I mean, the obvious ones. Like, you can't do whatever you want anymore. We can't just be like, hey, you're going to go see a movie, which we didn't really do that before. But even like thinking about our summer vacation, things like that, that's all shifted.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah. I mean, we've briefly thought of the idea of having a vacation, but we haven't even really decided if we're going to go anywhere or do anything. Yeah, in the past, you know, in the past we would have been like, should we go to, where should we go? Like endless options. The world is our oyster. Let's go to Paris.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Let's go to, you know, wherever. That's different. But that's fine. Yeah, I would just say, like, everything is now timed out, at least in this season. Yep. Everything is timed out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 She's got to sleep. She doesn't get enough sleep. Then she is tired the rest of the day because she didn't get enough sleep and that affects everything. Mm-hmm. So it's not just easy come, easy go anymore. Yeah. And definitely there was like a difference in weekdays and weekends because on the weekends it's like, oh, you get more rest and, you know, get to chill. It's not like that anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:22 No. The weekends are not rejuvenating. Kaelan posted a pick in front of your TV and there were curtains around it. Are those decorative? Oh, yes, they are. They pull and cover the TV because Bobby wanted that massive TV. And... Who doesn't want a massive TV?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Me. There's a big spot on the wall for it. The spot was kind of begging for that. But regardless, we got this massive TV and it was just kind of an eyesore sometimes. So we put these cute little curtains up that match the rest of the curtains in our house. we can pull it shut and it actually looks quite nice. I don't know that we've ever pulled it shut. I have.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I don't know that we have ever pulled it shut. You've never. I don't know I've ever seen it pulled shut. Okay. When you have a TV like that, that's a hundred inch. It's that glorious. Great. There's only to cover that up.
Starting point is 00:26:13 We can cover the Mona Lisa. I've covered it up. The Mona Lisa's tiny. Much smaller than people think. No, no. Yes. I disagree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Because everybody said it was so small for so long, I expected to walk in to be a postage stamp. I felt like it was way bigger than I thought it was going to be because forever everybody said it was so small. I don't feel like that. Maybe you haven't heard enough people to talk about how small it is. Maybe not. The birth story is always one for the record books.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Do you have anything you want to share? So if anything I want us to share about our birth story. That's from Jen K. Buckley. Thank you, Jen K. Buckley. The thing I will share about the birth story, one is, this is the best day of my life. in my entire life
Starting point is 00:26:59 having Billy is number one. I hate not that I hate but I know so many women are so nervous about giving birth and I hate that and I was too and so I just want to encourage anyone that's pregnant just know you have the best day your life coming up
Starting point is 00:27:19 and that let that get you through. What was the any part I want to bring up? Is that what they said? Yeah. Any part of your birth story? Billy was born to Neon Moon, the song. Mm-hmm. Which is awesome because we're really close with Ronnie and Janine.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And Ronnie sang Neon Moon on our wedding. We have a neon moon sign at our house that says our name on it. So that was really cool. Is there anything you can think of? I don't know what I can share. It's not my story What I mean were there any special moments for you?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah Go ahead I don't know Can I share them? I don't know what they are Exactly I can't imagine any special moments Would be something that I'd be like
Starting point is 00:28:14 Don't share that You are very nervous going into it Right Of course Who isn't nervous that they're about to push I know If you've never done it before It's terrifying
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yes. You had a hard pregnancy. Oh yeah. I had a very, I had a hard pregnancy. I did. I have ever even talked about this or no. I have an autoimmune disease that I was diagnosed with how many years ago? Three, four? Yeah, it's all, it's all a blur. An autoimmune disease that I was diagnosed with three or four years ago and it has been a really difficult health journey for me. And so when I got pregnant with Billy, I wasn't, I'm really sure how that would impact my pregnancy. I was on medication to help. I've been on medication for quite a while, like an oral chemotherapy pill that I take every day. and that has helped me feel a lot better, and I got approved to continue taking that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I chose that specific one because our doctor told me that whenever I got pregnant, I would be able to still be on that one. That's why you took it initially at the very beginning. Yes, at the very beginning, because I was like, oh, I know we want to have kids. I don't know when we'll choose to do that, and I obviously need to get better before my body is able to do that.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Not that I don't know if it was able to before, but just like I wanted to be in the best place health-wise that to support a good healthy pregnancy. So they gave me options on medication. I chose the one that they said would be fine to get pregnant on. And I was on that through my pregnancy. And even though I was on that, it was still high risk pregnancy, which we found out like second trimester-ish, late first trimester, we were told that because of my condition, it was high risk. So throughout my pregnancy, I had over 40 ultrasounds. And if you over 40 ultrasounds. And if you know anything about pregnancy and ultrasounds, I didn't. Normally in a, in a normal pregnancy, you have two to three.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Your whole pregnancy. And in mind, I had it over 40. So it was really intense. Very intense every time. Stress inducing. Yeah, there are times I would just, yes, I would get very anxious before every ultrasound. And she was always fine. And some people might be like, oh, that's so fun. You get to see your baby, you know, twice a week towards the end. And it was, I mean, it was once a week for forever. And then at the end it was twice a week. Actually, three times a week. Three times a week. It was twice a week and three times a week. Yeah, it's fun. And the reason you're going is not to see your, it's like they're just trying to make sure they don't have to deliver bad news to you.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Right. And we had no idea before I got pregnant that it would be that intense. She turned out fine. She's great. But yeah, it wasn't like fun every time I went. I didn't get to like have that normal ultrasound experience where you get so excited to your baby. Because a lot of times we weren't looking at her face. it was like for a majority of the time it was we're checking her heart we're checking all of the
Starting point is 00:31:44 things that this baby needs to be healthy so it was very stress inducing for pretty much my whole pregnancy um but then go ahead because of how hard your pregnancy was not only the emotional part of it with every week two and three times a week going in with best case scenario you not getting terrible news us not getting terrible news like that's best case scenario to not get terrible news. Right. And so that's a constant stress
Starting point is 00:32:13 because every time you go in, you go, is this the time? Right. Or they tell me that the heart is... Something's wrong. Yeah. But I will say that whenever we first met with like
Starting point is 00:32:24 our high risk doctor, they told us that they put me on another medication that would help Billy, help me not pass on the antibody that I have through the placenta and give it to her. they put me on a medication to mitigate that. And so we knew early on that it was probably all going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I don't want everyone to think that like the whole time. I don't know. I think in hindsight you make it seem a little easier. Yeah. It was hard for sure. It was hard. But I didn't. Also your autoimmune hurt you during pregnancy physically too.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah. My only point wasn't that it was you went through all that. You were very nervous about getting through it healthy. You're very nervous, obviously, about delivering the baby. But as soon as Billy was born, like as soon as she was born and they put her on your chest, you lit up and you're like, I love her so much. I love her so much. It was just instant.
Starting point is 00:33:24 No thinking. No. It wasn't a thought. It was like a feeling. It's like the number one moment. Yeah. That was the number one moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 It's right when she was crying, neon moon was playing, and as soon as they put her on your chest, you just started saying that. I love her so much, I love her so much. That's the part that I was going to bring up. But I think without knowing the earlier part, that part is still great, but I think it makes it a bit more dynamic
Starting point is 00:33:57 and you understand why it was so powerful. Yeah. Just a long time worrying about her. Mm-hmm. In utero. I was just concerned how food was going to get up to us from Uber Eats. And we figured it out. They would just bring it to different doors.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Your parents were here. Yeah, my parents were here. They got to be here for the birth, which was amazing. We got to tell my dad that she was named after him. Yeah, you want to tell that story? How we told him? Well, I don't know. Obviously, she's named after your dad.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Oh, yeah. She's named after my dad. A lot of people were like, how did you come up with it? Or how did you settle on it? How do we settle? Yeah, and there's another, it's like, there's like a bunch of these and here's one, it's like other baby names you considered. Why, Billy?
Starting point is 00:34:47 It's like an amalgamation of all that. I can't share other baby names because what if we have another baby? I don't want to give those. Well, I really fought hard for Bobby, B-O-B-B-I. He fought hard. That got cut. Actually, Bobby came, he presented the name Billy to me. Sorry, I'm still sniffing up over here.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That's all right. He presented the name Billy to me and, well, at first, he presented Bobby and I'm like, no. And then he presented Billy and we just kind of thought about it over a couple months. And I would say the one, like, obviously she's named after my dad and I love my dad very much. I love both my parents. And we thought that that would be really special and we loved the name Billy. We thought it was really cute.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And one day, we were still like kind of trying to decide. And we, I was in our red light bed at the house. I was listen to music in there. And one thing that, one song that came on was I'll be seeing you by Billy Holiday and I just started crying. And for some reason in that moment, I just was like, oh, it has to be Billy. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It wasn't necessarily this. I guess it's just like the phrase, I'll be seeing you and I was so stressed about. I don't want to cry. You have to stop because I get your right. I don't know if you're going to be a savior or not. I was just so stressed about her being okay. And so when I just like heard, I'll be seeing you, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I just like felt like it was God pressing play on this specific song. with this woman named Billy singing this, these lines that like I'll be seeing you, essentially just giving me peace. Like it will all be fine. And in that moment, I knew we should name her Billy. Sorry. And then the name's Celine. I love there was a woman that we met in Paris one time working out a store and her name was Celine. And I thought it was so pretty. So, and I love the combination of Billy Celine. And it'd be. like a little sporty and a little feminine. I thought that was really cute.
Starting point is 00:37:20 You got a few more here. Okay. I can't answer to this one. Only you can. How is Caitlin doing postpartum? As I've been crying for the whole podcast. I don't feel like that's fully postpartum. I think that's just like good emotion.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Yeah. How am I doing postpartum? I am doing well. It is crazy. as Bobby mentioned earlier, what your body goes through and honestly what your mind goes through and how your brain is just totally rewired after you give birth to like protect this child. And yeah, so how am I doing? Good, all things considered.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think I'm doing great. I love Billy very much. I still love my husband very much, which is nice. and I'm slowly starting to be more active. So my physical recovery is getting better. And my emotional recovery, my hormonal recovery, I'm not even giving it a grade yet because I'm too early in the process to like judge myself either way. I'm just taking it a day at a time, feeling my feelings, still, you know, going to therapy.
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Starting point is 00:39:54 Yes, sir. Rape and murder for a child. This is bad as it gets. I would think so. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevent and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.
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Starting point is 00:41:17 And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Nile. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. The old hands is not about anything else really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And we're back on the Bobbycast. A couple more. Who have you guys let meet the baby? And why? Well, our pediatrician put the fear of God in us,
Starting point is 00:41:53 and I think pediatrician does that to everybody purposefully. Yeah. And she was like, hey, the baby doesn't have the shots yet. The two months. Yeah. And I wouldn't let everybody be around her. Let your close circle and make sure they're not sick and make sure they wash their hands. But let's not do a parade.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. And then she kind of gave us the worst case scenario of what could happen. And so we have been, we've not marched her around. downtown? No, we haven't. Eddie and his wife have been over a couple times, a few times, Amy, obviously. Yeah. Mike D. Mike D. Your parents. Morgan Massengill. Yeah, Morgan number one. Keaton. I mean, our friends, I don't know if people know our friends. I don't need to like name them all, but like. Tom, Tom, Tom Lord, manager. Yeah. Josie. Yeah, Dr. Josie. He was about to have have a baby herself.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah, I'm so excited for her. Yeah, I think that's... I mean, a lot more people than that, but... Yeah, not a lot. We probably have to think hard. I can think of... Erica. Caitlin recently.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like our first round circle. Yes, definitely. Like, people that were, that are very much in our daily lives and were throughout the pregnancy journey with us, too. I won't say her name for privacy reasons, but like, my business manager, now our business manager, but she's been mine for a decade. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And we love for her. We're very close to her. And so she was over. Stephanie. Yeah, Tom's wife. Well, when we're outside their house doing a walk. But yeah, they came over too. Yeah. I mean, we're very close with them.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah. No, I'm saying they, not only do we go by their house and they come out, but they came over to the house too. Yeah. Tom came like the day you came home. I know. We didn't even really have the fear of put in us yet. I'm so crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And our, my friend, our friend, my manager, Tom, Lord, was like, yep, hey, I'm taking a shower, I'll be right over. And I didn't realize that he was like saying he was going to get cleaned up for the baby. I thought he was just like taking a shower for the day. But no, he comes over totally. He's like, all right, I'm all clean. Let me see her. It was literally like the day we got home.
Starting point is 00:44:12 But we love Tom. And honestly, I feel like in that moment we needed that because my parents had just left. And we like, we needed to share her with someone. And it just felt like someone needs to come and look at this baby and tell us how great she is. Josie, you know, getting closer. And so I think. Josie getting, oh, to giving birth. Yeah, Dr. Josie, to giving birth.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And I think it's hopefully been a resource for her that you just had a baby. Yeah. Because I think there is a difference in advice people give you that have had kids. And I think there is some prominence. advice that people can give you if they've just experienced it, anything. Yeah, and I feel like what I don't want to speak for Josie. I'll just speak for what it would be, what would have been helpful for me is if I had a friend that had just gone through it and I could just go over to their house and observe them. And Josie's done that a few times, you know, just because people can send you
Starting point is 00:45:15 links and this is what you need to buy and this what you need to do. But when you're that far along in your pregnancy and you're just tired and you don't want to think. through all these things. I imagine it's kind of nice to come over and see how we've organized our bottles and like how you're feeding the baby and what do you, what burp cloths are you using and when do you burp and like all these things that are just, of course you can figure it out, but it's almost a cheat sheet to be able to go over and just observe your friend doing it and be like, okay, I can do that. It's not hard. another one
Starting point is 00:45:52 I'll just have two more here another one is people asking about the cruise if we thought you would go into labor while I was on the cruise there was a chance there was a chance that's why I had to leave the cruise early
Starting point is 00:46:03 like we were so nerd because Caitlin was so close that we went to the doctor the day I left not only was I so close but my pregnancy was high risk so there were just a lot of factors
Starting point is 00:46:17 that came into play towards the it's the end and a lot of like stress and worrying. And I mean, at that point it was like she's totally fine and we knew that. But if, well, I'll rephrase that. Towards the end it was you're far enough along that if anything happened now, we can get her out. Correct.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And so with going and getting ultrasounds three times a week, whenever, you know, especially, you know, the week you were gone, it's like, well, they could see something at any moment. And if they see something, I got to go to the hospital and we have to get this baby out. So that was stressful. But we did see the doctor the day hours before you left. I wasn't going to leave. To get the final like, okay, he's fine to be gone for this amount of time, we think, hopefully fingers crossed. And we did. We went and the doctor said, you're good for right now.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We're all good. So you can go. And so then you left. and my parents were here, right? Yeah, just in case. My parents were here with me just in case anything happened. So that was nice.
Starting point is 00:47:25 But yeah, it was very scary. And some people sent me some mean messages about you, about the crews or whatever. And I just want to say to those people, well, I'm not going to say what I was to say to those people, but I will say sometimes there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than you know. Like maybe someone's wife has,
Starting point is 00:47:47 a high-risk pregnancy and she's... And she's also nine months pregnant. Also nine months pregnant. Could give birth at any moment. It's very scary situation. So maybe just understand. Just be more understanding. Let's just give more people the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Our doctor, you're a doctor, but she said, she's so close, I can write you a note. Yeah. That would clear you from having to go. And obviously, whenever you signed on for this cruise, I wasn't pregnant. Nope. It was months before you got to. months and we weren't I'm it's not like we were family planning around a cruise like we weren't thinking we weren't thinking about it we weren't like oh wait better not try this time because that
Starting point is 00:48:31 would be this no we're just living life we were living life and that was stressful for me a bit because I get it I yeah I totally get it I didn't want to have to leave though for the two days I was gone right but I had made a commitment. commitment and although I couldn't be there for all the four of the days I still had to go but the doctor was like you can't be out of the water and not have a way to get back home in case something goes wrong for two days at a time right yeah that was wild I just remember being so happy when you go home just like such uh because that was the last thing relief yeah there were like a couple things in a row that like the Super Bowl something else though no it was a Super Bowl and something else
Starting point is 00:49:16 The Super Bowl, which was a couple or a few weeks before that. Yeah. Probably something else. But that was the big one because it was right around the time. And not even that, it was. You could have also gone to labor before the cruise, and I couldn't have gone at all. Right. But not only that, it was like you couldn't get back.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yeah. That was the problem. There's no helicopter coming off the boat because so we ask. Like if she goes into labor, and I'm out in the middle of the ocean, is there a helicopter that can take me home? I'll pay for it. Yeah. And they were like, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Right. It was like the Super Bowl was different. You could get home. if you needed to in the middle of the sea you're at sea oh i just remember having so many conversations with my friends like they were they were stressed i think i couldn't let myself get that worked up about it but some of our friends were just like what no i know how does this work out how does this timing work out it was wild it was wild any advice for anyone that's about to have a baby the first baby Oh, I mean, I already kind of said this, but you're about to have the best day of your life.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And I know it's hard and I know it sucks, but you are about to have the best day of your life. So try to remember that. People told me that whenever I was pregnant and I didn't really think it would be the best day of my life because the birthing process is so intense and it can be so scary. but it is the best day of your life. So I would say, know that. Any advice? Be gentle with yourself. Make sure that your partner, your parents,
Starting point is 00:51:02 whoever it is that is going to help you, make sure you let them help you because you're going through something major. C-section, major. Vaginal birth, major. Like whatever it is, it's intense, it's really hard on your body. Give yourself grace. Know you're a great mom.
Starting point is 00:51:27 If you're asking for advice, I already think you are a great mom because you care enough to ask advice. And so just accept help. Go easy on yourself. I would say maybe read a little bit about what happens to the brain whenever you give birth because that will help you know that you're not crazy. But there's a lot going on biologically in your body. I don't really have advice other than that.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I'm not far enough or removed to be reflective enough to think that I've done anything great that I want to share with the world. Just be easy with yourself, accept help, period. All right, only 10 episodes left. I feel like it's nine. Didn't I promise 11? 12. I did?
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah. I've only done one other than this? Mm-hmm. Are you sure? Yep. Oh, I did the one when I was pregnant. Yep. And then this one.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yep. Only 10 episodes left. If I answered two more questions, is that chip away? No, it doesn't. Okay. But I'll take off three at a time if you ever do it on video. We're never over there. How am I going to go over there?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Well, yeah, I mean, it's a whole process. And we're going to take Billy? Well, it's a whole process. I get it. But I'm just saying. This is so much easier. Yeah, we just walk down and record. Yeah, walk out of the house down at the studio.
Starting point is 00:52:57 We just go down here and record it. Yeah. You'll knock how many off I do video? Three. Oh, okay. I mean, I just don't see how we swing that right now, but. Okay. It's an open offer.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Maybe when she's a couple months older. Hey, it's an open offer. Okay. All right. Thank you, everybody for all the questions. Thanks, everybody. Like everybody. It's Bobby and Caitlin show.
Starting point is 00:53:20 The Gaylid and Bobby Show. That reminds me of the. song I sing to Billy. Yeah. I don't like that song because I'm not in it. And now I can't think of the melody. Well, I was singing the melody that ruined it for you. Yeah, you were. Billy and her mom. No, no, no, no, no, because you sing, but, but, Billy and her mom. You sing, Billy and her dad. Do you sing Billy and Mom. You do, it's the Billy and, oh my gosh. How do. Too many melodies in our heads. Mom and Billy
Starting point is 00:53:54 Billy and Mom Yeah that's it That's it Oh yeah go ahead And Billy and Molly It's the mom And Billy and Billy show Yeah you got to do
Starting point is 00:54:03 Without me talking over you though Great again And one two three Four Mom and Billy Billy and Mom Mom and Billy Billy and Mom
Starting point is 00:54:12 and Billy and Mom It's the mom and Billy Show I walk in and they're doing a show They're already doing a show All right Bye everybody Thanks for listening
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