The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST #668 Brett Eldredge on Finding Love, Getting Married & His Top 10 Songs
Episode Date: September 4, 2026Brett Eldredge sits down with Bobby for a wide-ranging conversation about this new chapter of his life, including finding love, getting married, and how his perspective has changed along the way.... Then Bobby counts down his 10 favorite Brett Eldredge songs, with Brett sharing the stories behind each one. He talks about the hits he still loves performing, the songs that surprised him, forgetting lyrics onstage, jumping out of a plane after his first No. 1, and why he hid “Sunday Drive” for years so no one else would record it. Brett also reflects on the songs he connects with most today, the singles that aren’t necessarily his favorites, his love of Frank Sinatra, and celebrating 10 years of Glow. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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He was out on the road with me, right in the bus, and I was put in my in-ear monitors, and I looked at him as I was about to walk on stage in front of these people.
I'm like, I want to write a song called Want to Be That song.
I put the ear in and I just walked in.
All right, a special episode.
I'm going to do my favorite 10 Brett Eldridge songs, but with Brett Eldridge songs, but with Brett
Eldridge in the room.
And so he'll just tell me about the songs, how I felt when he wrote them.
Brett is a massive superstar in country music.
Big songs, number ones, like, don't you, be to the music, mean to me, lose my mind,
want to be that song.
He is Mr. Christmas, and it's 10 years of the Glow Christmas tour, which is wild.
He's got some great Christmas albums.
If you haven't been to The Glow show, it's fantastic.
It is the Glow 10-year anniversary tour, which again is, is,
Nashville, Chicago, New York, Boston.
He's newly married, great friend of mine, and we're going to do this.
I'd like to encourage you again, if it's Christmas time, go to the glow shows.
Get tickets now, though.
They always sell out everywhere he goes.
Here he is, and let's do my top 10 Brett Eldridge songs with Brett Eldridge.
Okay, so I deep dove into your music.
Yeah.
I already kind of live in it every morning.
Mm-hmm.
All the hits, Brett Eldridge all day.
Yep.
And so I have my 10 favorite Brett Eldridge songs of all time in order.
Oh, okay.
So, and then at the end, I want you to be honest with me and, like, give me your top five.
But don't let my judgment of your songs affect your judgment of your songs.
Okay.
Deal?
Deal.
And what if I'm like, I don't think that's in my top ten.
Is that okay?
Well, yeah, this is my top ten.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Don't let my, your judgment, like, if you don't have one that I think should be in the top ten, that's okay.
Yeah, you can say, what I'm going to do is I'm going to like go down the list and give you a song at number 10 and then you tell me like a story about it or what part of your life you were in at that point.
Yes.
But these songs don't have to make your list.
Okay, good.
But don't let my songs affect your list.
Got it.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
At number 10 on my deep dive, I have songs about you.
Yeah.
So give me a little, just a slight melody of that.
I'm just trying to get through these songs about you got it yeah yeah yeah okay tell me about that one
um it's a in the video basically I'm having my brain erased from all the memories of of this person in
the past of my life everything I go through my life every song I hear every smell I smell um every song
is a song about you I'm just trying to get through these songs about you and it's just like
walking through Wrigley
thinking I'm over you
And then I hear
You know
Can't Make You Love Me
And like, you know, it's right back
Like Bonnie Wright
Yeah
In the video
I referenced Kim Make You Love Me in there
And uh
Dancing in the Dark
Springsteen
And the song
And those are a couple
So you got to go through Rigley
For the video
No but I did
No but I cut
Want to be that song at Rigley
We did the music video for I want to be that song at Rigley
Well then why did you just say songs about you at Rigley
There's a line in there about
Oh, you're doing lyrics
Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, okay
I was walking in Chicago at a Wrigleyville bar
Heard I Can't Make You Love Me
Or at a Wrigleyville bar
I thought I might be moving on until I heard dancing in the dark
Now I'm just trying to get through these songs about you
So
Nice recall
Yeah, I know because I was like, wait a bit
That's not the lyric.
Do you perform that song still?
Yeah, I do.
Do you know all the words of all your songs?
Most of the time.
I'm about to play a show here pretty soon.
We're going to find out.
Do you think, because there are times where I'm not,
maybe I wouldn't know the words, but if I hear a couple, it gets me in, it reminds me.
Like maybe if you can't catch on, but you get the first.
Like in your ear, you're like, I forgot.
And they're like, I want to drunk, drunk.
Yeah.
No, I had that.
Maybe you'll get to the song, so I don't want to waste the story about it.
You can't tell it. I mean to me once. I was singing that.
And I think it was the first line. And then, you know, we're playing it.
And there's like this whole build up to it. And it's very emotional and just a vibe.
And then all of a sudden I'm like, turn around to my piano player. I'm like, what's the opening line?
What is it? I wrote the song. It's so weird because you've singing a million times.
but there's this weird block every once in a while.
And I think I've asked the crowd before, too,
like once you realize that, you know,
you're definitely going to mess up sometimes.
It helps to kind of bring them into it anyways,
but it is frightening sometimes when you don't remember.
There have been times where Eddie and I have been playing the Opry
and if we're doing Raging Idiot, just acoustic, two guitars,
and I'll just be kind of sitting on a,
or it should be like a GC, something super simple.
Yeah.
And I don't remember the first line.
Yeah.
And so then I just keep going, G, C.
And I'll lay him back, first word, first word, first word.
And he'll be like, dog.
God it.
Dog.
So what if he doesn't have it?
You're screwed?
Yes.
Extremely screwed.
We'll go back to this one later.
Okay, so I have at number 10 songs about you.
How'd that one do?
Was that a single?
It was.
Is it okay?
I don't know where there are singles anymore.
What's that?
I don't know what are singles anymore.
I don't either.
Like, some of your songs that I picked her,
weren't singles.
It's okay.
That's my favorite kind.
You probably also get people that will be like,
my favorite song is,
and then it wasn't like a massive song, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm fine with that.
Because what didn't make the list was Raymond.
Yep.
It was close.
Yep.
Great story.
And also, was that your first single?
Yes.
And that's a story of, let me say,
if I remember this right,
a guy with Alzheimer's?
Yeah, it was a fictitious story,
but I wrote it because of my
grandmother had Alzheimer's, wrote about a guy that works at a nursing home.
The lady mistakes him as her son, like a patient there.
And then he, instead of correcting her, he is that for her.
And it's just like a real heartfelt kind of emotional song.
Do you still sing that one?
Every once in a while, I'll do it acoustic.
Do they go crazy because they know you don't sing it that often?
Yeah, like the hardcore, like from the jump fans, we'll get pumped about it.
Because, yeah, it's just, I'll dig that one deep because, I mean,
Yeah, we don't like go full band, you know, deep emotion, but I'll tell the story kind of how it affected my family and me personally.
And the first time I sang it as at the opera, my grandfather was in the crowd and he got real emotional and everything.
And so that was really cool.
It feels like when John Mayer plays comfortable, not what it's about, but it's like you're just waiting and you're going,
I wonder if he's going to play comfortable because he doesn't do it a lot.
Yeah.
I think the last John Mayer's show, you and I went together.
We went together, yeah.
And he played it.
Yeah.
And it was that whole solo show where he just sat there.
And that was actually, I knew it'd be great because we're both fans.
So it didn't matter what he did.
We were going to love it.
But that was a really cool show.
It was.
And it's hard to do that.
But like, I think obviously he's unbelievable guitar.
But those songs, I mean, he does have deep cuss that if you're a fan, man.
I mean, yeah, comfortable.
Like, I don't hear a lot of people even mention that.
That was from that Inside Once Out EP.
before that record even came out.
Yep. I think I remember getting that like, you know, on a burnt CD or something.
Like it was before he was a big deal.
God, this song was so good.
So good.
All love was so perfect.
Yeah, that reminds me of like a part of my life, like 2001 or two.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, I remember laying a number,
underneath a tree on a blanket, listen to that song.
And if I'm remembering, I think like maybe neon was also on that before it made that record.
It was like a live version, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And that's cool.
Okay, at number 10, I have songs about you.
And number nine, I do have a Christmas song on here.
Hell yeah, let's go.
Glow.
Yes.
You wrote that.
I wrote that.
When you write Christmas songs, can you go in in July?
Like, or right now, we record this, we're in middle of August.
do you need to have things on the walls that make you feel like Christmas, or can you just go in and buy one of them?
I'm kind of always there. I'm, I'm, I'm, I kind of have to be, you know what I mean?
Like, we, and, you know, our tickets go on sale for the tour earlier.
You know, you're building the, we're like working on different set tweaks and all that.
So I'm kind of always there working.
And I'm, and so I kind of stay in that world.
Like, it's, it's not like I have sugar plumps dancing in my head all the time, but I do feel, I do feel connected to that.
It's a very strange thing.
But it just feels like I can always go there when I need to.
Do you write a Christmas song like you would write another song with either title, concept, melody?
Like, how do you do that?
And is it different than if you're writing a country song?
I was writing one other day and it's weird.
It's similar.
I think Glow, I wrote with Ross Coperman and everybody.
And he was like, I kind of had this whole concept.
I sang on my phone.
This was, well, this is 10 years of glow this year.
So we're celebrating 10 years of glow this year on the tour.
So it's, you know, 11 years ago, I went to him with this, this little thing that I record.
And I said, I want to write a song called glow.
I want a tour to be called glow.
And I want the album to be called glow.
Like, I had this whole thing because I just liked the idea of like that being almost a brand
of like of kind of my spirit and heart of of Christmas and it it works somehow did you have
some of the lyrics already done or did you just have the idea yeah yeah I think I had like you look
good in the light of my Christmas tree so good like I had that kind of feel and I love to watch you
glow and then like like I kind of had the heart of the chorus when you write with Ross who is a
wildly accomplished songwriter and producer and he's also one of our
good friends. But when you write with him who traditionally doesn't write Christmas music,
you have to bring him to that, right? Well, the thing a lot of people don't know about him is that
he's like a trained jazz, like American songbook kind of piano player. So we've written,
we wrote a song called The Reason on one of my records that I love. And that was kind of
had some jazz elements and we wrote Mr. Christmas together.
And he, like, is dying for the opportunity to write that kind of thing because he loves it.
And, you know, a lot of people aren't consistently writing jazz in the modern world.
So it's really cool.
Like, I see some spark light in his eye just to write that kind of thing.
And so whenever I come to him with that, it's pretty cool.
And number eight, the reason.
Oh, no, I'm just kidding.
I don't even know that one.
Well, there you go.
Saved you some time there.
Whenever you think as songwriters, and I think of Elton John and like Bernie Toppin,
and Elton John did the music and he did the lyrics.
Yes.
Yep.
It's kind of a cool, but, I mean, symbiotic for sure, but odd relationship where could you ever just write the music to something and then pass it off and go, okay, can't wait to see what you do here?
There's a lot of let go of control there.
I was talking to my manager, John Pete's about it the other day because he's like,
I've been writing a bunch of songs on my own,
and he's like, this would be really cool.
And, you know, I think it would be really cool to cut it with this person and this band.
And you could literally, like you have such a good guitar vocal,
you could have him cut it and you walk in there and just be ready to sing kind of thing.
And like the let go of that is wild for my brain.
But I kind of get it.
Like when you, if you have the guts of a great song and going in and trusting that process,
is probably a good practice for me to try, but I usually like to be there from
inception of the song of like, you know, the idea or, you know, somebody can walk in and have
an idea and I can kind of start trying to build something around that, but I kind of like to
come in with a melody, something. I like to be there at the birth of the song and kind of
go all the way through. So if I was to write just the music and pass it off, that would be
hard for me, for sure.
What about if you wrote a song,
then you had a good demo,
and you laid down the vocal,
and then you just let the producer do what the producer does,
meaning he's going to track it,
maybe he puts guitar, maybe puts piano,
could you leave a song like that?
Like if it was just like guitar vocal
and then let him build around it?
Like completely.
Have you done that ever?
I've done stuff like that.
I usually tweak it after they've done stuff.
I can do that,
but I,
because on some of the first records I produced with Ross together, like we co-produced him.
And he's very good at translating.
I would be like, what does this sound?
I don't know how to describe it, but it sounds kind of like a stapler clipping or whatever.
And like he'll get it.
We actually recorded a stapler once.
That's how I thought of that.
You put a staple on a microphone?
Yeah, we just put a stapler on like just weird sounds or I would play guitar with my mouth and just make that sound.
And then we're like, oh, actually, that works.
to do just the guitar vocal
I think it would be an interesting practice
I most of the time I'm there for the whole thing
so that's probably a good challenge
but that would be hard for me
it's like making me sweat thinking about it
I never thought about that so much
but we had Pat Monaghan
and he was sitting there and we were talking about it
and so he dreamed
at least parts of drops of Jupiter
where he had the idea and he woke up
and in the dream it was his mom
and so his mom died
and that song is about her
but he said he went in
and laid down basically the basics and let them do the work.
And so this piano, the horns, all of that was added not him by whomever was producing.
And so I asked him, and I said, is that weird or hard?
Or do you ever hear it and go, that ain't it?
He goes, yeah, sometimes I hear it and that ain't it.
But sometimes I hear it and it's freaking beautiful.
Yeah.
Because I wouldn't have thought to do that.
Yeah.
And that's what he said he did with Drop to Jupiter.
And I thought it was so cool.
That's a cool.
Because I couldn't do that.
Yeah.
No, it's hard.
I have a brain that needs to know every detail or I feel out of control and it might get anxious.
But it's a good practice.
I'm glad you brought that up to me because maybe I need to try it.
You'll forget to do it as soon as you leave here.
You're right.
I think at times I can sabotage things by being way, way, way too involved.
But I think more times than not, my success has been because I'm way, way involved.
Like I know what got me here.
And it can kill me sometimes.
but I think more times than not, I like to be super involved.
Okay, glow is it nine.
Number eight, Sunday Drive.
Ah, yeah.
I really like this song.
This is a later, this is a later you.
That's my favorite record you've ever done, too, by the way.
Me too, my favorite.
And so I pick Sunday Drive because, I don't know,
that song makes me feel good is such an easy word to say,
because I don't feel good as descriptive enough,
but like whole.
Yeah.
So tell me about Sunday Drive.
What do you think about when I say that song?
That song I've had such a journey with because that's one of the two songs I've recorded that I didn't write.
Dang, is that insulting to you that I picked a song you didn't write?
No, no, no, no.
That's one of my favorite songs ever.
A little bigger insulted?
No, I really am not.
In fact, if you picked it one, I'd be like, that's great.
Because I was an intern at Universal Music Publishing and I was in the basement.
And they had kind of like, basically called it the dungeon.
And my job as an intern was to, fresh out of college, was to transfer CDs to MP3s.
So there was just endless walls of CDs.
And I'm filing them away.
And I would listen to the songs as it to make sure they didn't have skips or whatever.
And I was going through this catalog of this guy named Barry Dean, who I became loving his writing and his voice, too.
And there was a song called Sunday Drive.
And so I got that.
I just started listening to it all the time.
But I was only, you know, 20, low 20s.
And I hadn't lived enough life yet at that point to be like able to tell that story, I think, or sing that story.
And so I took it and I was like, one day I'm going to record this.
And I just kept praying no other artists would record it.
Wow.
I kind of left it under, I wouldn't bring it up to.
a lot of people. I think some other artists almost recorded it. And then when the right time came,
I was like, I want a whole album concept around Sunday Drive and recorded it in Chicago with
Daniel Tash and Ian Fitchick. And it was amazing. Those guys I know from Casey Musgraves. Is that
true? Yeah. Okay. Barry Dean, I know from Pontoon. Yes. He had a little big talent.
He has a bunch of hits. Yeah, yeah. Maybe day drinking.
Did you write that?
Possibly.
You got some fact check me on that.
But we've had him on the Bobbycast.
I loved him.
He's like one of those creed guys.
He's like a songwriter, songwriter too.
Like, do you love songwriters?
You're like, I'll listen to his music over some artists, you know, because I just love it.
Would you check in to see if his song was recorded?
That song was recorded?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I was always check on the status of it.
It was like, and it just a year would go by and it wouldn't.
And then I was like, here's the time.
Let's go.
I bet it's weird for him for a song to exist for that long.
Somebody to hear it and remember it for that long.
Yeah.
And then for it to get cut.
Yes.
Did he say anything to you when you said, hey, I'm going to cut this song?
He actually gave me a, I was looking at it this morning because I meditate in the morning
and I have some coffee table books just like this in front of me.
And there's a book called Frank Sinatra's Got a Cold.
And it's a picture book because he knew I love Sinatra.
He loves Sinatra.
And so I got it from him when he knew I was recording the song and he was just so grateful and he's such a nice guy.
That's cool.
Do you guys fact check me on that?
He wrote day drinking and pontoon.
Yeah.
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I feel like I wrote something with him a long time ago, like a comedy song.
Really?
I don't know.
I've done that.
I've had that where I've, I mean, when you're right.
I've had strokes, though.
Yeah, you're right.
You got a good excuse.
Like, I was like, I don't want to use that because I have.
No, don't have a stroke.
No, I definitely don't want to have one.
Number seven on my list.
of your songs is, don't you?
Yeah.
Do you think it'd be higher?
No.
I think that's right.
It's a good spot.
It was the first song that got me to the dance.
No way.
That was your first number one?
Yeah.
Huh.
Yeah.
Me and Ashley Gourley and Chris DiStefano.
I did not know that was your first number one.
What was the video?
It was at like an old Victorian house in East Nashville,
and I was basically at a playing live at a party.
Like naturally everybody does,
and I'm hanging out and see a beautiful girl across the room
and kind of been falling her around and flirting.
And you know what you're doing, baby, don't you, don't you?
It's like flirtatious.
And very like a young version of me, you know.
That's a jam.
I forgot how much of a jam it was.
I've been playing your songs.
Also, Caitlin's been like,
Why are you playing so much Brett?
Because it's kind of weird because you're a friend and we're playing your music in the house.
I'm like, I got to get back to a song.
I'm listing them all out.
What do you remember about that song moving toward number one?
It was a long climb.
I think it took 50, I think it took a year to climb the chart.
And, you know, I mean, it's a grind to get out there and play a million different shows and you're out there and you're doing everything you can.
You're like, well, I hope some people hear it.
and then you hear it for the first time on the radio.
Because I remember hearing Raymond on the first time in the radio,
but Don't Show was the first time where I started to hear it often.
And then you start hearing it more often.
And then all of a sudden, I was like, okay, I'm going to,
I'm going to do something that crazy if this goes number one.
And that's...
I remember you doing crazy stuff every song and you had to quit because you were going to kill yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't do it crazy and crazy your stuff.
Like several number ones later, I said I was going to kiss a bear in the
lips with honey or something and people got really uh you know i would do it with like a trained bear
but it would still be a grizzly bear and they said let's not do that what did you do for this one
skydive and i was i'm so i'm very trying to reframe it as they do in therapy i am not a huge
fan of heights and i can't like stand by a ledge and not feel you know weird sensation
just feels weird so i was like okay i'll go
skydiving if don't she goes number one and gets the 30 gets to 20 you know it gets a 10 you're like oh
damn we're going to have to start looking at places that possibly you know just a case and then I
remember looking at that window when they opened it up and I mean there's no feeling like that
which feeling was crazy at them telling you you got your first number one or are you looking out
that door of the plane definitely the door of the plane because it's like you know I've been grinding to that
point where it's like, you know, we're going to get there, we're going to get there, I believe,
I don't know how, we're going to get there.
And then, but when they open a door to a plane, you're like, I was the one that got all
these other people into this on this plane.
I'm going to be the first one to jump out.
I was so scared.
And luckily you have somebody attached to you that's done thousands of them.
So you're like, okay, there are 100%, you know.
Not 100, but yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they probably had some things that didn't work perfect, but they've made it to,
they made it.
Oh, 100% life.
They live through all of them.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I remember, I hate heights.
I'm not going to reframe it.
I'm scared to crap of heights.
And I was so scared to skydive that I just drove up to skydive one morning by myself.
No way.
And you never told me that.
Yeah.
And so I just don't like being afraid of things.
And so I drove up and it was in San Marcos, Texas.
And I went up and I said, hey, I'm here to skydive.
And they said, you have to book reservations.
and how many in your group?
I was like, no, no, it's just me.
And I think they thought I was like a solo,
like a Unabomber or like some sort of single
is it going to take the plane.
And they thought it was weird
that I showed up by myself
to just go up and skydive.
And they said, well, if you're by yourself
and it was like, she had talked to her manager.
I guess if you're by yourself,
we can fit you in to this group that's going.
And I was like, okay, like you,
I'm scared of death.
Yeah.
And so they had one,
instructor that wasn't jumping with that group and they said we do have someone that can go with you
and I'm not kidding it was a woman about five foot three so and she's attached to my back
and so we're walking and she can't even see because she has to like look around me because she's so
small and you're right when you go up there and they open that door oh I could feel right yeah me too
I can feel right now me too it's like this gut thing it's like oh how was it when you jumped
they tell you to scream or like you know exhale really hard so like yell or whatever because
you're obviously got a ton of force going towards your lungs i remember doing that my mouth was
dry as hell and then i you know i'm six foot four so like the guy the guy was a pretty big guy
but like when he he i remember jumping kind of blacking out like i don't remember a lot then i
remember i remember i'm pulling the shoot or remember no i remember flying for a while and he had like
some guy who was just like casually filming you with a camera flying in your face.
And I remember you're supposed to tuck your legs behind your back, behind your butt,
kind of like so they're not dangling.
I look like a falling spider because my legs were dangling.
And so that was really intense.
And you could tell he was having trouble like getting me balance because they have to kind
of do that while you're doing that.
You were doing that exactly.
No, doing that.
For sure.
And then once they pull the shoot, that's the second.
That was almost worse because if he pulls a shoot, he's like,
all right, we're going to try a spin or whatever.
And he pulls one side and we just go like that going down in circles.
And I was like, at one point I'm like, I can't do any more of that.
And I almost threw up, which I know happens sometimes.
Those people who probably get thrown up on all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Like it goes up into the person.
Oh, God.
Think about all the videos of that
That would go so viral now
Yeah, yeah
You ever watch the videos
When people get on that thing
At the fair or the carnival
And it's the rubber band thing
Oh, I hate that thing
And the guy's like, oh, it looks like it's broken
Oh yeah
That's so good
They launch it when they're not expecting it
Yeah
I had a cool video of me skydiving
But somebody broke it in my house
It was a DVD
And it was in my PlayStation
When they broke in my house
They stole PlayStation
I didn't have a DVD player
My place
I wasn't playing it
I wasn't playing me skydiving
I didn't have a DVD player.
It was the PlayStation.
Yeah, yeah.
And they stole that.
What?
I know.
You know, that's really strange to say that.
Maybe there's a conspiracy out there because somehow my footage of my skydiving is also never been able to be found.
So whoever.
Do you have pictures of it?
Maybe it was the same.
Well, I have a couple pictures, but like my brother jumped with me too.
Not the same time, but behind me, he did a backflip out of there.
You know, like, I would love to have a.
a video of that, but we can't find it.
I did backflip too, but there's no video.
I did a backflip, and then I did a pirouette, and then...
A handstand?
Yeah, I did like nine things.
It was really great.
We did my video, so I can't prove it.
But yeah, they broke into my house and stuff, all kinds of stuff, and that was one of the things I stole.
Of all things, that was the thing.
No, of all things, I was really playing poker a lot at the time.
A lot.
I was traveling to games.
I was playing cash games in Texas, and I had a jar, like this big, just
stuffed with cash for games and they stole that.
That was the big one.
Yeah, that's a big one.
The DVD was two.
Yeah.
That was the big one.
I remember landing, though, I'm going, thank God.
I'm never doing this again.
Yeah, same.
Some people were like, I wanted to go right back up.
It's like, never again.
It hurt when they pulled the shoot.
That was the worst part, was the floating, because if that goes wrong, you die.
If something goes wrong in the free fall, you got two shoots.
You still got two.
But if that goes wrong, you do this like you did, and then you die.
Have you seen the video of the 80s?
or 90-year-old lady skydiving and she slips out of the harness.
She doesn't die.
She doesn't die.
Wait, what?
There's a video.
How does she slip out of the harness?
And I watched this, unfortunately, before I skydived, I think.
But this lady is, I mean, she's like, oh, before I die, I want to go skydiving.
And she goes skydiving, and somehow they didn't have her fully in.
And so she's, like, falling out of the harness.
The guy's, like, holding on to her.
They land, just holding onto her?
Yeah.
Like she's basically completely
completely slipped out.
Mike, have you seen that?
I'm watching here right now.
Oh my God.
It's real?
It's real.
It's so insane.
That makes my stomach
like queasy just thinking about that.
I mean, I...
Oh my God.
Her butt is dipping.
Is it bad?
Like, she didn't die
so it can't be so bad.
She lives...
Hopefully she's doing great.
He's like holding on to her shirt.
Her shirt almost comes completely off.
Did you say,
Hopefully she's doing great.
She'd be like 100 or something now.
Like right now, she's watching this on Netflix, thriving.
You're my hero, and you inspired me to go ahead and jump if you made it through that.
I could make it.
And I did.
I'm going to have to watch that when we're done.
Okay.
So, yeah, I'm good.
Never Scott Evan.
Okay.
Next up on my list.
Oh, you hit number one.
Congratulations on that song.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What number we are at here?
We are now at number six.
Oh, yeah.
At number six, I have.
I don't know a lot of words
So I'm just doing some melodies
You know I'm a son
I'd lose you
And I'm even early on that
Beat of the music
Beat of the music
Yes
That's a jam
That was a jam
That was
Ross and I and Heather Morgan
We wrote that song
I had just been in the Bahamas
And
I had this whole
concept
my head of, I walked in, I had this idea, and Ross and I started writing it, and Heather hadn't
gotten there. Heather can tend to be late sometimes. Back then, she's gotten more timely now.
But back then, she would show up a little late to rights, but she'd bring smoothies or something.
I remember her doing that once. She'd be like an hour late, but.
Well, you were on time, but you bought smoothies today. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. But that day she rolled up and we're jamming on it. And I mumbled a lot when I'm, I'm a lot when I'm talking to when I'm singing or writing songs. Like I'll just do kind of what you were just doing. I'll say syllables. I'll hear. Like I hear it all, like I feel it formed together. And sometimes I'll say the words kind of, but not realize I say it. And that's one of the best things I've had with Heather and I writing through the years.
She'll, even if I don't exactly say it, it's like she energetically or whatever says,
did you just say falling in love at the beat of the music?
And I said, sure, I guess so.
And it just fell out like that.
And then we wrote this whole story about going down, going to an island.
I say Mexico because it rhymed instead of Bahamas.
What's the rhyme?
I get hooked on a girl with blue diamond eyes down here in Mexico.
Oh.
So, it would be hard to say Bahamas.
Wait, what's the rhyme with Mexico?
Oh.
I just met you a couple hours ago.
Oh, got it.
My last nine of the time, wouldn't you know?
Yeah.
I get hooked on a girl with blue diamond eyes down here in Mexico.
Oh.
And so it was Mexico.
It was really Bahamas, but who's actually a fact-checking on that?
We just did.
And we're putting on Wikipedia.
He didn't know.
Take the number one back.
Is that the pigs?
Yes.
So that was back before, like, it was cool to swim with the pigs.
You're like, now you see it on all sorts of things.
Back then, they were just, you know, kind of stinky swimming pigs, but it was so cool.
I'd never seen anything like that.
I'd never even been, this was before, this is probably 2010.
And so I just got a record deal.
I'm trying to figure it all out.
I never been to a cool...
Our friend invited us to go on their boat in the Bahamas,
and we fly in.
It's this beautiful place, and we go hang on their boat,
stay in their boat for like four days, me and my brother.
We go on a boat ride, and they say,
we're going to go feed some swimming pigs.
I said, that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Let's go.
They fill up, like, scraps from whatever we had for dinner or whatever,
probably pork or sausage.
I've seen that, actually, too.
That's rude.
It's so weird.
It's so weird. I don't like it either.
But I remember them having breakfast burritos to give it to them.
I'm like, that's so messed up.
But anyways, I think there was some broccoli in there, so that was good.
But we brought it over to them, and we're rolling over there, and we see this beautiful girl on the back of a boat.
And we hadn't seen anybody other than older people than us this whole trip.
And we're like, whoa, okay.
I said, forget the swimming pigs.
Let's go see what's going on over here.
Like, pigs can fly.
I don't care.
This is a beautiful girl back here.
You know, I'm like 20, you know, three, four years old or whatever.
And so we go, we get closer, we get closer.
And these two, like, in my mind, I'm sure it wasn't this scared.
But in my mind, it was like James Bond villains pop up, like, out of this yacht.
And, like, we get closer.
And they're like, you can tell her, like, you're not getting close to this boat.
So we went and we fed the pigs instead and I wrote a story.
I was like, I want to write a story about falling in love in this magical place.
And as a songwriter, you get to play God in that scenario where you get to make it finish however you want.
And then we went back and years later and shot the video there and told the whole story.
You never saw her again, though?
No.
No.
No.
Was that your number two?
Second number one?
That was my second number one, yes.
I never know when I look something up.
It says, reach number one June of 2014.
So your second number one.
Yeah.
Dang, that's been that long.
Yeah, I know.
It's flying.
Still a jam, though.
Yep.
Number five.
I get drunk, drunk on your love.
Drunk on your love?
Number five to me.
Yeah.
That song.
Number one, 2016, it says here.
Yeah.
True or false?
That's the thing that's definitely true.
Tell me a story about drunk on your love.
Ross and I wrote this.
We wrote a very, it was almost like, we would make really weird demos that because we weren't
making it for anybody else, but we were just having fun.
And then we knew we would go cut it in a different way.
But if it had an element of catchiness and uniqueness, we would just let it be what it
was. And so he had put some like really weird, I wish I had my phone I'd play it for you, but
some really weird, like T-Pang kind of things on my voice, you know, at the end of the song and
like through it and, and there was bongos on it and just having fun with it. And we're like,
man, this is so catchy. It was, it was just one of those songs that kind of wrote itself
once we had the hook. And it felt so good. And still, when we play,
that song live, it is people go nuts for it, just because it's, you don't have to
overthink and it's not changing the world with the subject matter or anything like that.
It just feels good.
And sometimes you need songs like that, and that one does that.
The lyric is, I get drunk.
I woke up, uh, still drunk drunk.
So insulting.
Yeah, that's okay.
You know how to have to know the words.
I woke up, uh, still drunk.
Okay.
I don't want to sing after you.
I was way better singing that before you sang that.
Do you ever have a song and it is so catchy and it feels so good,
but you feel like it's too simple?
There's a, yes, I have those.
And then sometimes, that's sometimes the hardest kind of song to write,
like the simple, catchy.
Sometimes it could be, the subject matter can be so simple.
You're like, nah, it's not compelling enough,
but it's like, it's catchy, but it's not,
but it just doesn't quite do enough to like you're going to go home and tell all your friends about it.
But then there's some that are so naturally an expression of yourself and your soul,
even if it's simple, that it comes out in a way that is infectious.
And, you know, they call it an earworm, whatever you want to call it.
That kind of weirds me out earworms.
But I like the, we'll call it something else.
because but like it's uh yeah it's really hard to write a simple song and make it really good i think
a lot of time you said something though a minute ago that i liked you were talking about not every
song has to change the world and exactly like every song doesn't have to change the world
except those songs end up we'll call it changing the world because they're just fun yeah and
like joy does do yeah yeah yeah make people smile make it feel good and i can't
See, though, as a creator as a writer and you want to write the most poignant thing you
could possibly write or it's got a great callback or it's got like, that's your craft.
You've worked so hard to get so good at it.
But the thing falls out of you that feels super simple where you would go like, wait, is that
too simple?
I can see where that could be a struggle.
It does.
It gets in your head and you're like, okay, I really want to write something really deep
and meaningful and everything.
And you kind of forget that this is meaningful.
It's just a different part, you know.
It is a hard part of songwriting for sure.
Do you think of any songs that you've heard that's not yours in country music or all in the last 10 years, it is such an earworm or whatever term you'd like to use there?
Because I remember the first time that I heard it meant to be, and that's a song that is simple and it's so catchy.
The first time I heard that song, if it's meant to be, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be.
It'll be.
Yeah, yeah.
I was like, oh my God.
I don't even know what they just said.
I think there are six words in that song,
but that's the catchiest song I've ever heard in my entire life.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, meant to be was that to me, like the catchiest song.
Yeah.
Anything come to your mind just in general?
I'm trying to think.
Don't say Baby Shark.
Can't say Baby Shark.
Baby Shark does do that, though.
Baby Shark doesn't leave.
It doesn't.
It gets in and it's there forever.
It's a worm that embeds into the brain.
And then it causes you insanity.
And then one year, you're like 10 years down the road,
you're crazy to sing it in your head.
And then you were like,
you didn't get that from Baby Shark,
got that from Pork you ate.
It was bad.
It wasn't from Baby Shark at all.
It was chicanosis.
It's a whole thing.
You're right.
Anything come to mind?
Super catchy songs you've heard
in the last five, six, seven years.
Oh, man.
I'm really bad at remembering that.
This is called being put on the spot.
It is.
It is called being on the spot.
I can't think of anything right now.
What would you even listen to right now as music?
All comfortable?
All old stuff?
Yeah.
Americana stuff.
You have anybody like...
Gregor Allen Isaacov.
Say that again?
Gregor Allen Isakov.
Yeah, I don't know who it is.
He's like a...
Yeah, he's Americana, Rootsie.
There's a band called Watch House.
I really like.
It used to be called Mandolin Orange.
Dang, you like bands that don't even have a real name yet.
They're still so new.
They used to be called Mandolin Orange and they changed it.
That's how you're cool.
You like a band before they even settle on a name.
It's not it's like I just really connect to like
At this point in life
I like I mean of course I listen to all the old stuff and stuff I grew up with
But I connect with kind of
Traveling
Organic lyrics that are like
About the pines and being in the woods and
Traveling down the roads and old cars and shit like that
I like stationary plastic
fake lyrics. Yeah, it's more of my thing.
Mine are mainly from Fisher Price
at this point. Yeah, absolutely. That's your life.
That's your life style. Yeah, it's just about like elephants running down the road or something.
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top Red Eldred Eldred songs of all time.
Should be nice to love someone.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good one.
Because when I wake up in the middle of the night
and I wake up in the middle of the day.
Is that how it goes?
He never wakes up in the day because he's always awake because I don't nap.
How's it going then?
What's that?
How's the lyric go?
When I wake up in the middle of the night, you holding me so tight.
There's no waking up in the day then.
And then what's the next lyric?
Okay, hold on.
No one ever knows this part.
I didn't know that.
Because I don't even know what I'm saying really.
When I wake up in the middle of the night, this moves to the middle of the day.
We run down to the palm tree.
We run down to the palm tree is my guess.
It all of a sudden turns into island song.
Is that correct?
No.
Oh.
But it goes, good glory, me, my, oh my.
Good glory, me, my, oh my.
That's one of those things where once again, like, you're in a right, I don't, I just randomly mumbled it.
I don't even know what that is.
It just feels right.
So it goes, when I wake up in the middle of the night, you holding me so tired.
Good glory, me, my own my, sure feels good to love someone.
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah.
Because it's, you're like emoting.
Yeah, it's just emoting.
I do that a lot.
That's fun.
But it's also like in the song, like you're actually expressing with words.
Is it?
It's like stream of conscious writing, which I do a lot of.
You just sometimes none of it makes sense.
I always heard Paul Simon used to do this thing where you'd do stream or conscious
Ryan and he would take a tennis ball and he'd throw it against the wall and he would just
somehow it would lock in and with his brain.
You know, you'd just do weird things that kind of do that.
And he would stream of conscious just like spit out kind of like call me out.
You know that song?
There's a lot of kind of stream of conscious lyrics there that.
don't really make sense.
Love that song.
I love that song too.
Man walks down the street says,
why am I soft in the middle now?
Why am I soft in the middle now?
The rest of my life.
It's so good.
So good.
And the video's got Chevy Chase.
Chevy Chase, I know.
Home.
Oh, I love that so much.
That, and that song moves around so much.
I like the bongo breakdown.
The guy that, oh yeah.
The guy that produced Glow and Mr. Christmas,
he arranged The Horns Day.
So, like, he did all a bunch of stuff with Paul Simon, and he arranged Call Me
Al, and I was just like, that's awesome.
I mean, that's enough of a, of a, all I need to know for a resume to sign you up for my
Christmas albums.
It's like, Grave Dick.
Mr. B, Belly.
No, don't they go, I get too many melodies in my head.
I get like six and I crap out, but it goes, uh, man.
I can't do it.
I'm broken.
We'll get there next time.
No.
Does I say Gravedigger is one of the repeating things?
Yes. He says Gravedigger, but I can't remember.
But that's also a monster truck.
It is.
Because Bigfoot versus Grave Digger.
Yeah, that was the big one.
And you had the two were the toys.
My nephews are brilliant.
It's definitely still a huge thing.
Are they still things?
Bigfoot and Grave Digger?
My nephews, oh yeah.
My nephew, they were playing with it the other day.
Okay.
They love monster trucks.
They have probably 50 or 60 of them.
Here we go.
And they collect them.
They know every one of their names.
One's four, one's two.
and they know all their names.
Okay, I'm going to find this here.
Okay.
It does say that in the song, right?
Oh, here does.
I got it, got it, got it.
A man walks down the street, he says,
why am I soft in the middle now?
Why am I soft in the middle?
The rest of my life is so hard.
I need a photo opportunity.
I want a shot of redemption.
Don't want to end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard.
Bone digger.
I'm thinking bone digger, bone digger.
That's the repeater.
Dang, that is such a.
See, but that's all like, it's like if you tell somebody to sit down and write me a song,
that's just not what you expect, which is so cool.
And I think that a lot of that is just you're just, you get on this like flow state of a thing and you kind of just follow it.
And if you could step back enough from it and not judge what's showing up and just kind of let it be what it is,
sometimes it's really bad when you get out of it.
And sometimes it's like, I don't know exactly.
what all this says, but for some reason it makes sense.
I've had different seasons in my life where I just fall in love with an artist
that was before my time.
And so I've had like a Led Zeppelin couple years.
I definitely had a Paul Simon a couple years.
Yeah.
And it's the most cliche thing ever, but I love that Graceland album so much
where I would listen to it.
And even like, she's a good, diamonds on the soul.
That's all of that.
I can think about exactly where I was those few years that I just fell in love with that record.
And then I just wanted to know everything about Paul Simon.
She's a rich girl.
I don't know any words, any songs.
That's a whole note.
Yeah, yeah.
Then how's it go?
She's a mint girl.
She got diamonds on the soles of her shoes.
I mean, that's, the album's like religious.
I mean, it's like experience.
But I don't know any words.
So don't hold it that I'm being opposed.
I don't know even some of these are your songs.
That's okay.
Number three, Brett Eldred's songs.
Top three, baby.
Let's go.
I want to be that song that gets you there to makes you dance in your underwear.
She does.
That's a jam.
I love that one.
How does it actually go?
You don't have to see.
I want to be that.
Okay.
You know, you can.
I just want to maybe.
You don't know.
You want to like make me sing.
Yeah, but if you want to just give me.
Yeah.
I mean, it might help me to remember all the words.
I want to be that song that gets you high.
Makes you dance.
makes you fall. That melody
rewinds years
once disappeared. Makes time
fall. Stall.
Want to be those words to fill you up.
Roll your windows down. Keeps you young.
Makes you believe
you right where you belong.
I want to be that song.
That song is awesome.
I love that one. You still dear?
That's one of my favorite ones, yeah.
Yeah, that one, it's weird because I'm about
to go play a show
in Kansas, like a race track or something.
Just so, I wonder if it's the same one,
but in Kansas,
I think it was like Kansas Motor Speedway, whatever.
Scooter Caruso, the songwriter,
his name's Travis Hill, too,
but his Scooter Caruso is a songwriter.
We've written, Mean to Me Together,
we wrote this, we wrote several songs together.
He was out on the road with me,
on the ride in the bus,
and I had this idea called,
and I was put in my in-ear monitors,
and I looked at him as I was about to walk on stage in front of all these people.
I'm like, I want to write a song called Want to Be That Song.
I put the ear in and I just walked in.
And then I played the show.
Months go by, I forgot that I told him that.
And then he and I and Ross get together to write one day.
He's like, remember when you told me you want to write a song and want to be that song?
And I totally forgot.
I was like, oh, yeah.
And he's like, I've got a whole kind of lyric thing going for that.
And then Ross and I kind of start jumping on the music.
and then it just comes together in this beautiful way of capturing that wanting to be that,
you know, depth of what a song means to you, you know, and singing every word of night moves.
Like, whenever I hear night moves, I get chills almost hearing it because it takes me to a place.
I want to be that feeling that that you get when you hear that song.
I want to be that song.
And I just loved that thought.
I love that emotion.
And it was a beautiful ride.
with that song.
My skull got some chills there.
That's a great story.
It's an awesome song and the fact that he held on to that for that long.
Yeah.
And he didn't go write it with somebody else.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's a good idea and he's, oh, I heard this.
He won't remember.
I'll go write this with someone else.
Yeah.
That he saved it that long.
Yeah.
Yeah, that song is a jam.
And I got to shoot that video at Wrigley Field.
How do you make that call?
Well, luckily, that was one of the best years of life right there because it was 2016.
World Series.
Yeah.
And I, I don't want to, you know, I think we all as a fans play a tiny part and getting us there.
And I'll just say that the being, I said, so this year feels like a special year, which every Cubs fans has every year.
Because it was before the season started, it was freezing, you know, Chicago was cold at the start of the home opener and everything.
And field was empty, and I got to have, you know, I'd gotten to be friends with a lot of the players and stuff.
And so I got in contact with, we got in contact with the whole front office of Wrigley
and they let us basically have Wrigley Field as our playground for a day.
They didn't charge you?
No.
You just, that's all.
Well, you're a real fan, though, too.
Yeah, yeah, a real fan.
I mean, I was in the parade I was saying Go Cubs go at the, when they won the world.
It was just like the whole year, starting with shooting the video there.
And when we shot the video, we were like, well, there's no fan.
hands because we were playing it basically I was playing a baseball player and also playing
like all these memories and I had to like shave my that was one of the last times I had a
fully shaved face so if you watch the one of the song video my face is completely shaven
is it weird to see that now yeah so it's very weird I mean it freaks me out sometimes for sure
it looks so different because back then in the whatever it was 50s 40s whatever because we're
playing like way back Wrigley days.
Nobody had facial hair really much like that.
And so we're like, okay, let's show a younger version of this character.
But it was so cool.
I got my brother in there, a lot of my best friends.
And we play on the field.
Some of my family members were in it, and they had to play Cardinals players because
it was Cubs versus Cards, which is a famous rivalry, you know.
And some of them that are huge Cubs fans had to be.
be cardinals, which was pretty funny.
But yeah, I was hitting a rubber baseball, I think.
That's still awesome to take swings.
Yeah, because you don't want to screw up the grass at Wrigley either.
So they weren't having us run out in the grass a lot and stuff.
But yeah, they let us just hang out.
It was really cool.
Then we won the World Series.
Which is probably why we won the World Series.
100%.
I'll take it right now.
Thank you guys so much for this opportunity.
I have a funny story to tell you someday on a microphone about me telling a Cubs player how much they meant to me in their reaction.
I would tell you right now.
Yeah.
I just don't think right now is the time and place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, tell me.
It's a great one, though.
Is it?
It's your fault, too.
It is it?
Yeah, it's completely your fault.
Number two.
Was it recent?
Yeah.
I figured so.
Have you heard, did you tell you?
No, no, no.
Was I so lame that he told you?
No, you never told me, but I know you were, I was sitting you next to him.
Can I say what it is then?
Or no?
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know what the story is.
What's your wedding?
Can I mention it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Can I say who was there?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So we, it was Caitlin and I's first time out of the house period since we had the baby.
Obviously, we love you dearly.
So we're not, even if the baby came out of her an hour before, we were still going to your wedding.
Yes, which was amazing.
Thank you.
And so we go to your wedding.
And Rossi, I know a little bit from, he did Dancing with the Star, so we were falling children and social, but he was also on that team that won the World Series.
And I don't want to bother anybody ever.
And he came up to me and he was so nice.
And he was like, Bobby, what's up?
And I was like, what?
And so we're talking.
And so we get to after you guys had your ceremony to the reception.
And it's him and Rizzo.
And I'm like, I got to just go tell them.
like there were people that never got to see the Cubs win it.
Like the last time they won it was 1908.
Heck, the last time they had been was 1945.
There are people that didn't get to see it.
And I even skipped my first ever network television offer to watch Game 7.
And we won.
And my stepdad was a massive fan.
And it just brought so many people to get, I'm just a lifelong fan.
Yes.
And so I'd already been talking to Rossi, but I didn't know Rizzo at all.
And I went up and I said, hey, and they weren't talking to anybody.
And I definitely don't want to bother people.
you know me, I don't want to bother anybody.
And I said, hey, just so you know, like that 2016 year, and I just told the story.
And it's only like a minute or so.
I just look at what it meant to me.
And whereas I said, cool.
How's it?
I walked off and I was like, oh, I just poured out in my heart and I got hit with a cave.
No way.
Which is rare.
That's rare because he's a man of many words.
He's the nicest dude ever, too.
was nice. He just cooled me though. And I was
like, all right, well, I'll be
going back over to that side.
Thank you very much.
Count it out. That's so good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, what is,
we'll have to get him in here and sit, you guys
are going to unhash it all because. No,
I hashed it all. No, there was no.
And he was just like, cool. And I said, okay,
I shall leave now. Maybe that's
him just taking it in, like, awesome. Maybe
he was enjoying it so much. He was speechless.
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Number two, mean to me. I'll make sure
I show this for Rizzo. He'll love it.
So, mean to me.
Yes.
Was that my third number one song?
I'm trying to remember.
It was early, though, huh?
Yeah, it was an earlier one.
Chicago always has played a huge role in a lot of my music.
Third, 2014, 2015.
It hit that.
It reached the number one, marking his third straight from his debut album.
Wow.
Okay, so it was mean to me.
And that one, I wrote with,
Scooter Cruise, the same guy I wrote, want to be that song with.
And songs about you and a bunch of them.
But yeah, he, uh, he and I were writing.
This is the, maybe the first song he and I wrote together.
And we wrote it on Music Row in Nashville.
And I love the sentiment of, um, just how we, we turn the phrase.
He's a really good.
There's a, in my opinion, my two favorite lyricists in Nashville are Tom Douglas.
and Scooter Crusoe.
And he just has a great way of, you know,
if I could be the reason your hair's a mess.
Now I'm going to forget the lyric.
You got to sing it then.
If I could be the reason your hair's a mess.
Oh, God.
He needs to feed him a line.
Remember this is the song that I said I did live too?
Oh, do you forgot then?
Yeah.
You have, you have a...
I'll find it.
I'm on with your smile
Brennan, you know it?
Base drum,
bass drum,
If I could be the reason
Your hair's in a mess
The bass drum beating
No, that's not it
That's what it says here on this
The bass drum beat way down deep in your chest
You just said that's not it
You just argued me on your lyric
It's weird
It's like if I picked up the guitar or something
Maybe I'll do it
But it's so weird
Like thinking about it straight out of the
Rawness, you know?
But anyways, the lyric of this song, I just love the turn of phrase when it comes to the hook of,
then I'd be what you mean to me, like all these things.
And it was such a cool song.
I actually recorded this with Luke Laird actually produced it.
I think it was the only song on that album that Luke produced, but I'm pretty sure he produced that one.
When you have something that works like that, like mean to me and the wordplay of it and you hit it,
the first time you hit it, you're like, oh my God, this is perfect.
I mean, do you feel it?
Yeah, I think sometimes, like, when you have the demo, yeah, it kind of, back of the day,
you used to do whole demo sessions, you know, you go in and have the band or whatever.
But when you have a work tape that's just you on a guitar and, like, you listen to that over and over,
and you write, you know, because you write hundreds of songs and you never even remember you wrote them.
And then there's ones like this one where it was just, yeah, it felt like we landed something
really good.
And it's,
it can be really frustrating
to write songs sometimes
because you get,
there's a,
there's a wave of emotions
just writing a song,
but then you get hungry
for a little while,
then somebody is a little distracted
and there,
and then you had all this excitement,
like, we're about to write a really huge song,
and then all of a sudden,
by the end of it, you're like,
well, should we just let go home now?
But, like, on songs like this,
I remember feeling that, like,
walking out of the room
with Scooter and just feeling,
like that one has some depth and like that's going to be a real one.
And I can't tell you how many times I've watched thousands of people hold up the fireflies
on that song and just it's an emotional experience to sing that one because it just kind
of brings me back to the start, you know?
Have you ever accepted a decent check to play these songs at a wedding?
I'm trying to think about playing any weddings.
Definitely at private events.
But I don't think I've played at a wedding.
I've only just started to go to weddings, period,
since in the last couple of years I've not toured as much.
Because I was never able to go to weddings,
because I'd always have gigs.
And so, like, I'm starting to go to, I had my own wedding.
But, like, I'm starting to go to weddings now and stuff.
But I missed all that stuff, you know, in the beginning.
You probably would have sang one at our wedding.
You're right.
You probably.
I didn't get to make it.
Didn't make it.
Got COVID.
I got COVID.
Made us think we had COVID.
Man, there was some behind the scenes on that.
Yeah.
That was back when...
We were with you.
We were all together all the time.
And so you were like, I got COVID.
And we're like, oh, my God.
Do we have COVID and we're getting married in five days?
And if we do, do we tell everybody?
And my wife has integrity.
Because I'm like, we ain't testing.
Yeah, yeah.
If we don't test, we don't have COVID.
It's just like, there's no COVID if you don't know.
And my wife's like, no, we have to take a COVID test.
Because if we have it, we can't have people be in danger.
Yeah.
And so we took it and we were negative.
But what if you would have ruined our wedding?
Dude.
That's a movie right there.
A bad one.
A bad one.
But you didn't get to come.
I didn't get to come.
I know.
And I, that was a really, and back then, too, it was, you know, later on you get COVID.
Everybody gets COVID.
And you're like, but at that point, it was very.
touchy and you know all all that stuff i remember i got covid again i had to cancel one of the first
times i ever had to cancel a show for a chicago christmas show and i was like well i could
have probably i could have played but you're like i don't want anybody to die you know it was so
heavy and so i'm glad that your wedding went great and thanks man i was home is blowing my nose
and crying i remember you telling us not that we were worried we didn't even think about that at first i
I was, like, pacing around my pool, trying to figure how I, because I didn't know it was sick.
And I remember pacing around my pool, like, I got to call him and tell him.
He's already stressed out.
Now that I've had my own wedding or whatever, I know how much stress goes into just any kind of gathering or hosting or anything.
A wedding, you know, there's a lot that goes into it.
So I was like, how do I tell him this?
And that's okay, Lynn, we're not testing.
She goes, that doesn't mean we don't have it.
I said, no, we don't have it if we don't test.
Yeah.
She said, we're going to.
And now remember.
You just spit a little bit on that.
Well, it had to be like those movies where they take a pregnancy test and it ends up positive.
That's kind of what it felt like.
Oh, God, please don't be positive.
Don't be positive.
And it wasn't.
Thank God.
All right, time for the number one song.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen.
Do you know what my number one song is of yours?
What have I left out that you think?
I can't believe he hasn't said that one yet.
This one is so far number one.
It's not even close to number two.
This is the tier of its own.
What is it hit?
What?
Yeah, what is that?
No, I'm just saying I don't want to give you a hint yet.
If you miss it, I'll give you a hint.
Was it for the Sunday Drive album?
I think so.
Hold on.
This is its cell.
Let's see.
The long way.
Yeah.
Yes.
Take me the long...
Yeah, because I was going to maybe sing that at your wedding.
You interrupted me singing.
I was in the middle singing your song.
Oh, yeah, go ahead, please.
And then I'll tell you I was going to sing every wedding.
So let me finish it.
And then I'll say, I was going to sing that as your way.
That's right.
Go.
Take me the long way around.
town. I was going to sing that at your wedding.
That song is so good.
I love that one. Do you still sing that one?
I do all the time. Is that every night song?
Every night song. I sing that a lot of the time I sing acoustic.
Because that's my favorite. I started out as a songwriter here playing acoustic shows.
So I love pulling out the bar stool and sitting and playing some songs. That's one I break
out and listen to everybody's saying it's really cool.
I like slow songs.
Because I can at least understand what the lyrics are saying, as you can tell,
much of a lyric guy, because I can't remember much of them.
But that song also reminds me of my wife.
Really?
Yeah.
Now that I think about it, because that came out in like 16 or 17, I think.
I think it was later.
Maybe, God, I don't know.
Probably 18.
Yeah.
Let's not fight about yours.
Let's find about yours.
Yeah.
I just remember hearing that song and then after I'd met Caitlin and being like,
oh, that song is how I feel about her.
Yeah.
I remember you telling me that.
I was like, yeah, I'm not making this up for you now.
I've told you this already.
Yeah, yeah.
And so I think it's a great song.
I think the lyrics are so good and it reminds me of my wife.
Yeah.
Like all those things together.
Yeah.
Make this my favorite Red Eldridge song.
Heck yeah.
I love that.
That's a good one.
I love your list.
What did I?
not put on that list.
What would you have expected?
I don't know about expected.
I mean, I have ones that would be on it that...
Do you want to do your top five?
Oh, boy.
Number one.
There's a song called Hideaway that I had.
I really like...
That was on...
That was on the songs about you album.
I wish it was a single.
Because it was one of my favorite ones.
That's...
Yeah, that's up there with one of my favorite ones, for sure.
Number two.
Oh, boy.
Probably a little...
Want to be that song?
You were going to say the long way
and then you shifted halfway through.
I tried to figure I was the long way
or I wanted to be that song.
I'd like...
Yeah, maybe the...
No, you said we're going to commit
to want to be that song.
Yeah, want to be that song.
Then the long way.
And number three, the long way.
Then...
Hmm.
There's a song...
I mean, I would pick obscure ones, though.
That's okay.
Probably.
Like, the one you need is a song I really like of mine.
It's on, that's on Sunday Drive, too.
I love that one.
That's an obscure one.
And then maybe there's a song called Crowd My Mind on Sunday Drive I really like to.
So that Sunday Drive album really sits in there strongly.
Yeah, that was, you know, I mean, we've known each other a long time now.
you know, when I got a flip phone and I started kind of, I don't know, I have a lot of nostalgia
or just, you know, growing up in the industry and you grind it and you grind it and then you
kind of find the parts that really resonate with you and the parts that make you feel
maybe not as true to yourself or whatever and doesn't mean your past mute.
music wasn't. It's just like you grow up. And I think Sunday Drive was like a big grow up for me,
like they kind of reflect and ended up happening to coming out during COVID, which was a weird
experience to like put on an album you can't promote or anything. But it was such, but it was kind of
the also the time that we were in where we're all kind of having to reflect. And I think that's
why that album is just really, it's kind of stuck with me on it, you know. Do you have any single,
that you're like,
eh, if I play this, it's okay, if I don't, it's okay.
Yeah.
Which one?
Something I'm good at.
I didn't put that in the top ten.
Yeah.
That one, I really loved writing.
Straight jacket video?
No, that's losing my mind.
That was the number one.
But that was, yeah, losing my mind.
That was, no, something I'm good at,
I shot in, like, in senior,
or somewhere in California.
And I was, like, in a robe.
watering the grass. It was like almost a
dreamlike world that I was in. But
I actually loved writing the song. I thought it was a really unique song. And there's
a lot of people that say it's their favorite song. I brought it to the
label and it was like, and it was a really, I wrote with Tom Douglas,
which is totally not a typical Tom Douglas kind of song.
Because he wrote The House to Build Me. Yeah, yeah. Like he's that, yeah.
Yeah. And he, it's just like, but the lyrics are really cool and fun,
but it's just really quirky and it is part of a large part of my personality.
But I went and I cut a little demo of it and I brought it the label and everybody just freaked out over the demo and loved it.
Well, once, you know, somebody plays it for some radio person showed up or whatever and they were in the office and they play it for them and they're like, oh, they love that song.
And all of a sudden it was like, this is going to be a single.
And I don't regret it.
It was just like, because it still did really.
well.
But that would probably be one that is one of my not-ass favorite ones, but I don't regret it.
I hope you don't regret it.
Yeah, yeah.
It doesn't like kill anybody.
No, nobody got hurt in the making of it.
And it's funny, it's like a lot of the kids, like it's a lot of kids' favorite songs
because it's kind of that kind of thing, which I love.
Like there are a lot of people that, when they need to feel good and dance around,
when it comes to playing it live, you know, when I'm.
when I'm strumming and playing the long way
or want to be that song or some of that stuff,
it just doesn't feel as good next to those.
Different vibe.
Yeah.
You brought some records.
Yeah.
So show me some of the most important records
from your collection here, if you don't mind.
And hold them up because this is going to be on Netflix, obviously.
I really just, I thought I was only able to pick one.
I mostly...
No, just show us a couple.
What do you got here?
And why do you love them?
What's that one?
Okay, this is...
This is a...
This is called a portrait of Sinatra,
songs from The Life of a Man. It's actually a, it's hard to pick one Sinatra album. I could almost
do this with, hang on, how are you guys doing? I could do it along with this one because this one is,
oh, I'm not going to show you this one yet. So this is my favorite Sinatra album, which is called
The We Small Hours. In The We Small Hours, it's one of the best, I think one of the best albums.
Why that one?
Why does that one resonate so much?
It's such a like, there's certain albums that are like one really strong emotion.
And like this one is heavy in a way that's in remembrance and longing for someone.
And it's just like, just even the cover like him underneath the street light smoking a cig.
I mean, it's obviously a depiction of him, but it's like the whole album is just perfection, in my opinion, like of emotion.
Like, nobody could turn a phrase like Sinatra, like he could create space in a song and never make you feel like he has to say something.
You know, because sometimes as a singer you feel like he got to feel space or whatever.
I think growing up, singing his music and listening to it, it helped teach me to kind of.
of deliver a song.
And so I think that album in the We Small Hours is there.
And I picked this one.
This was actually, so this is, it's not technically a greatest hits album, but it's
impossible to, because he had so many songs.
This was big in Britain.
So like it was more based on his performances around in Britain.
And, uh, but it's got, you know, come fly with me and fly me to the moon.
and everything,
sending the clowns.
There's so many
endless
classics.
I got you under my skin.
I'm just a huge synodra fan.
No, he don't say.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And I brought this one
just because I thought you'd think it was funny.
That is excellent.
Hold that up.
I'm going to send a picture
this to Caitlin right now
and tell her we're talking about this right now.
There's a bright golden haze on the metal.
There's a bright golden haze on the meadow.
The corn is as high as an elephant's eye.
And it looks like it's climbing clear up to the sky.
That's awesome.
You were in that, huh?
Yeah, it was.
So for those that don't know, not only was Brett in Oklahoma,
my wife was from Oklahoma.
It was my wife's birthday.
and so Brett sang that song at her birthday party.
Multiple years.
Yeah, multiple years in a row.
And then he got COVID one year.
And then he got COVID and I've never seen him again since.
That's funny.
I'm going to send her that right now.
Yeah, those are some picks for you right there.
You've been doing the Glow tour.
This is your 10th year?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's the 10th year of the album coming out.
And, you know, I've been doing a version of the Glow shows for,
every bit of that.
Because it stemmed from a show I did.
John Esposito, we both know very well,
was the head of Warner,
signed me to my record deal.
He loves Sinatra more than I'd even do.
I mean, he just knows every song he ever put out.
And so we both bonded on that.
I was like, I would love to go eventually make a Christmas record
in that style, completely different from,
separate from what we're doing.
in the country stuff, make a big band.
So we're like, let's go play live.
And we went and started playing live shows with it in a basement at the Suttler back in the day.
An 8th Avenue, a little bar.
How many people are you named?
80 to 100.
It was an invite-only kind of thing.
Maybe like a eight-piece band or six-piece.
Maybe a quartet even.
And it was really fun, and people loved it.
And I have such an, I just, like, that's what I started singing.
So, like, I have such a love for it.
And then the next year we did it at Skoll's Rainbow Room and invite only again.
And then all of a sudden it was just like, then we went and recorded.
We're like, okay, I think it's time to record it.
Recorded Glow.
And then, and now, yeah, 10 years of Glow and, yeah, it's probably,
I've probably been touring it for every bit of close to that.
That's crazy.
he's been 10 years of this.
Who would have thought it would be so large in your brand?
Yeah.
Because it was so anti what anybody was doing.
Yeah.
It was so counterintuitive to a guy who's got hits happening on country music.
And you did it and nailed it.
It was almost like, for me it was never,
because it was such a natural thing for me just because I was more comfortable,
every bit as much comfortable singing that as like what I was already singing.
it was like, I have to do this, you know what I mean?
And so I don't know what it's going to do,
but I feel like if we fully commit and we don't like try to put steel guitar in there,
or try to cut it in Nashville,
and not there was anything wrong with cutting in Nashville,
but we flew to New York,
I did all that,
fully went for it.
I think not one of my fans was like,
what is this or whatever?
It was just me.
And that was, that was it.
And then it just kind of just keep doing it.
And people keep showing up every year.
It's pretty awesome.
We were talking about it in the intro before you came,
but the tour you can go to Brett's website,
Brett Eldridge.com,
and the cities are Nashville, Chicago, New York.
Let me make sure I'm right here.
We got Nashville starting November 27th in Boston for a couple nights.
Is it day after Thanksgiving?
Yeah, so we have residency at the Ryman three days,
starting the day after Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving.
Two in Boston, then Milwaukee, then Chicago.
That's got to be fun for you, too.
The Chicago Theater ones are going to be awesome.
Yeah.
St. Louis, Columbus, Ohio, and you end in New York.
Yeah.
That's cool.
You guys should go to the show.
I've been many times.
It's really, really an amazing show.
Yeah, and this year we're doing some different things.
But last year we got this really cool stage, and it's just like it feels like home
now and I just 10 years of it.
Hopefully I can do it until I'm 80.
I saw Tony,
uh,
Tony Bennett backstage probably a few years before he passed.
And I saw him backstage.
We were both filming.
I think it was a Rockefeller tree lighting.
And,
and I was just thinking,
damn,
he's been doing this.
He was like 90 years old or upper 80s.
And I was thinking,
okay, I'm like 35 or whatever at this point.
or 33. And I'm thinking, dang, if I can do that and still love it. Like, he was just sitting
there eating at a granola bar and chilling and said, hey to me, what's up? And he was singing a song,
you know, to kids from one to 92. And I'm thinking, he's basically 92. If he gets 93, he's
going to be past whatever than 92. And he got to go, like he has been doing it that long. And
I think it's cool that to create a tradition, like the glow shows to create a place where people can
keep coming back every year
and tell the stories and there are elements of it
that they remember each year that I keep
the same because I want it to feel like I go
there to get a specific feeling
and
and be able to share that with my family and friends
and it's
going beautifully and
that's all I want to do.
Yeah, so guys get tickets. It's an awesome show.
You should go, I don't even like Christmas
and I liked it. That's right.
It wasn't a Christmas guy. I changed you now.
Just so we can have this document
for posterity.
Yeah.
We became friends many, many, many years ago.
Yeah.
We were both very single.
Yep.
Very clueless.
Yep.
Even lonely, even if we didn't know it.
No, we knew it.
I think we knew it.
At times we did.
And we go, I wonder if this is ever going to work for us.
Yeah.
And then something happened a little bit, and then off again.
And we get back together again.
Doesn't happen for guys like us.
I guess for us, it just is not.
Yeah, I remember you telling me,
wants at dinner. It's not for us. I guess for guys like us, I just never, and again, we've been
friends for a long time. I would say very close, but you're one of my dearest friends.
And how I'll end this story is, you had text me before. You're like, hey, afterward, do you want to go
and get something to eat? And I said, I can't because I have to give the baby a bath.
That's pretty cool. And here you are married.
Yeah.
I'm always a little bit ahead of you.
I've been a little bit of heavy for a while now.
But you can teach me with experience, though.
And that's weird.
And, yeah.
And so now I have a baby.
And we're not those two guys wondering if it's for guys like us anymore.
It's pretty cool.
Or two guys that can tell other guys they're going,
I wonder if this is for us, just hang in there.
Yeah.
Because if you hang in there long enough and you don't settle,
something really amazing will happen.
Yeah.
So thanks for going through your music with me.
Yes.
I love you.
Love you, brother.
One of my best friends in the whole wide world.
I'm so happy for you and your wife.
And it's just crazy to see us.
How about mature?
Yeah.
Get more mature.
We're growing up, baby.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Still a lot more to go.
Yeah, you hope.
Yeah, you hope.
To the next chapter.
I mean, anything can happen.
You're right.
Let's go skydiving.
There he is.
Guys, go to the show.
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