The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST #670 - Tim Tebow on Fighting Human Trafficking, Getting Humbled at Florida & Becoming a Father

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

Tim Tebow sits down with Bobby to talk about the experiences that have shaped him beyond football. He opens up about becoming a father, the coach who humbled him after his first college start at Florida, and why he avoids reading internet comments. Tim also shares what led him into the fight against human trafficking, why the issue deserves more attention, and how his foundation is working to help victims. Plus, he reflects on his football career, perspective, and the lessons that still stick with him today. Pre-Order Tim's Book: 40 Days to Look Again: A Devotional to Embrace Your Worth, Reclaim Your Hope, and Run with Confidence which releases on September 29. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you could listen to everything that they're saying on TV. And if you do, you will have no chance of ever being your best. Now I realize I've worn my favorite pink sweater for one of our most masculine guests. In a long time, it is Tim Tebow. I'm a big Tebow fan. I've been able to him a couple times. Spend a little bit of time with him and he's always the kindest, most generous, that guy that looks you in the eyes and makes you feel like you're the only guy in the room type guy. That has always been my experience with Tim Tebow, even before this interview. For those that don't know sports, because this is not really going to be a sports interview, Tim Tebow is a two-time national champion, a Heisman trophy winner, college football

Hall of Famer, NFL quarterback, baseball player. He's on ESPN now. He is written seven New York Times bestselling books. He's the founder of the Tim Tebow Foundation, which fights for some of the world's most vulnerable people. He's a speaker and he's a dad. And now Tim has a new devotional called 40 Days to Look Again, coming out September 29th. And we're going to talk about that. And we'll talk about what he's doing now and what's important to him. So here he is. One of the nicest guys I know, Tim Tebow. If you could just beat one team the rest of your life, what team would you beat? I'm obviously going to go to college because that's just the rivalries are just different.

If you could beat one team the rest of your life and you get to beat them every time, what team do you beat? Because we were pretty good and they were so good. You know, one of them that comes to mind is Alabama. but because I love the passion and tradition and the history behind it, I couldn't do them. I would have to pick either Georgia or FSU. It's hard. For me growing up, FSU was the disdain.

My dad growing up before me, it was Georgia. This is you. You get to beat one team. No, we're winning our state. It's FSU. We're winning our state. There you have it. State champs.

There you have it, Tallahassee. You heard it. You heard it. Loud and clear. Tim, good to see you. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. I like the pink.

Real men can wear some pink. Thank you. I have a daughter now. Had a daughter about five months ago. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations to you too. Thank you.

We're just a little bit ahead of you. We're about 13 months now. How's that going with you? I tell you what, it's, I don't feel like how it was prepared, but it's such a crazy blessing. Oh, she is so fun. I was, when we left the hospital, one, I drove so slow. My wife's like, was mad at me. She was like, what do you?

Like, speed up. You're driving too slow. Like, it's more dangerous than I was like, for the first time ever, like, totally like 10 and 2, you know? And then we get home and we put Daphne in her bassinet and I'm like, okay, what do we do now? Like, where's the manual for this? You just don't necessarily feel ready. At least I didn't. but man, just the blessing of it, the joy.

I would say probably one of the biggest impactful things for me was the feeling of responsibility. Like that just, it really kind of hit me in waves where we get home and I'm like, I start to see things differently. Like before I see her house and whatever we like to do, but now I'm like, she could fall there, she could slip there. You got to change this. We got to change this.

We got to have them coming tomorrow. And Timmy's like, well, she's not going to be walking for however many months, you know. But I think that level of responsibility of just to try to pave the way as much as you can is just that, I guess the burden and the blessing of that is so special and so sweet. But it's been awesome. How about for you? It's the first time I've ever thought I don't want to embarrass myself or someone other than myself. because if I'm doing stand-up or writing or this, I just kind of go.

And I've made some mistakes. I've been fined a million of dollars. I've done some real stupid things. And it's just me. I was the only person that mattered because I was by myself. And it was for my wife. But now that I have a wife and a daughter, there's a responsibility, one, to protect.

But also, I don't want her to, be embarrassed of things that I do or say. You wanted to be proud of dad. Yeah. And I'm not a legacy guy. I don't so much care about that. At least I didn't. I just want my legacy to be now that I was there because my parents, I didn't have parents.

So people would ask, like, what do you want your legacy to be? And I did not care because whenever I leave here, hopefully it's slightly better than before I got here, but I didn't care. But now it's, I hope my legacy is. I was consistent. That's it. With her and my wife. And those thoughts,

that never popped into my head or mind until her. What is your daughter's name? Her name is Billy. We named her after my wife's dad, so her grandpa. Yeah, so it's crazy to like the things that you learn about yourself when you have a kid. Have you had that where you're starting to, like,

do you see your parents different now that you have a kid? At some areas, yes. Some areas, I would actually. actually say I feel like I'm more grateful for all the things mom and dad did. Some of the things I didn't understand, some of the ways that they sacrificed for us, that they led, all of the things they gave up. You know, I was asking, it kind of hit me on the spot this morning. I was actually asked, one day when Daphne's more grown, what would you want her to say about you? And I was like, I'd never thought about it that way.

If I asked you that, what would you want Billy to say about you one day? He was there. Yeah. Because I don't say that about, I had teenage parents, and they were gone. So it's weird because what we didn't have is what we want to make sure they do have. And so that's what I would say. What did you say? I said that I hope that one day Daphne would say,

that I did everything to protect her, to love her, to support her, to propel her, and whatever she wants to do, that I was present with her, not just there, but present. And that I loved her and I loved Jesus. And I made, I helped her see. hopefully along the way what love and love of Christ really looks like. Why did you guys name her, Daphne? One of the women that really cared for my wife's mom, sort of like her grandma, but not exactly. It just was an amazing, strong, very small, petite lady, but just with crazy courage,

actually sort of became Demi's grandma, and she just loved her, and she loved the name. And that was kind of her idea of a grandma and just wanted to honor her and say thank you. But also, like, hopefully, you know, we would be able to help steward her to be an amazing lady like that, that went out of her way to help people

that technically weren't family, but brought them in as family. And then her middle name, The harder for me is actually named after the youngest survivor we've ever been able to safeguard and care for. She was rescued at 25 days old. And she just totally stole me and my wife's heart. And just an amazing, amazing young girl. And we wanted her to be named after people that were just so meaningful.

and special to us. So our name's Daphne Rain. What do you call her grandparents? Meaning, I don't think that the other grandkids

should be able to name the grandparents. And Billy's supposed to call like Papa and Nana. I didn't agree to that. I don't know. I had nothing to do with I think those are like

I'd be fine with grandma and grandpa. My grandma raised me. And so I think grandma and grandpa's fine, but there are older grandkids, like my wife's siblings have had kids. Apparently you get to plant the flag if you're born first and you call them like gooboo and gaba or whatever it is. So, like, that's been the one part of it that's been a little frustrating for me is I didn't have anything to say with what we call them.

Yeah, this is probably, yeah, I think I agree. But I also don't know because my wife's from South Africa and her first language is Afrikaans. And so I don't know if she'll use some of that language or if it would be grandma and grandpa. It's also been a little bit harder for us, too. She lost both of her grandfathers this year. My dad went to heaven, and so did Demi's dad.

And so she won't necessarily have that figure in her life, but there's a lot of other incredible men, including Demi's stepdad. That's an amazing man. And others, she has a lot of amazing so-called uncles, too. Well, I hope you get to name them because I got stuck with names. I don't know. You got to give me some good advice than what we should name.

I don't know. It doesn't even matter. I just wanted the autonomy to name our baby's grandparents with what our baby calls them. And this is such a small thing. It does, but it feels so personal to you right now. Yeah, it's like the one. That has been really, it's not bothersome because that's not a real problem. Maybe a little bit?

It just is a little irritating, yes. That and the teething. because if she just had two teeth pop through it once, that's, that's miserable. Yeah, we've had it. We've gone through a lot of it. The teething is not fun. And we tried all the things that we read to do and we put all the stuff on it and try. But that's just one of those pains.

That's something else I've learned that I always try to fix things. And I think generally, you know, I read this is going to be stereotypical, that men try to fix things. So I just want to fix it. And my wife is, hey, sometimes you just can't. fix it. You just have to be there in support. Yeah. And that's been... That's not easy. That's not easy. So even like sometimes me and my wife will have conversations where sometimes, you know,

she'll bring something up and I'll be like, okay, do you want me to help try to solve it or do you just want me to listen? And sometimes I'll... Do you say that? Sometimes I will. And she'll... And I would say 80% in time, she's like, I just want you to listen. I'm going to do. I just want you to listen. I just want to talk about it. externally process it. I'm like, okay. And it's actually pretty helpful. Like sometimes to just like be very Bring clarity to it and be like, okay, do you want me to help try to, you know, see if I can help solve this or just do you want me to listen?

It's so counterintuitive though. At least for me, it sounds like it is for you to not go, okay, I see a problem. I'm going to do everything I can to fix said problem for person I love. Yes. With my wife, it was the same thing when we got married. And we go to therapy every single, well, every two weeks. With therapists, we've been going since before we were married. And I think that's one of the things I have.

had to focus on the most is not trying to fix everything because fixing it is not always what the desired action is. Sometimes it's just holding. It's just, and that, again, that goes away from my tenancy. So that's kind of naturally, whatever, anyagram, eight. I'm an eight. Are you an eight? Yeah. I'm an eight, too. Yeah. You're a eight. You're a challenger? You challenged people? I just, I like getting stuff done. Yeah. You know, yeah. Do you ever get in the comments? You don't seem like a comment guy, like on social media. Never. Like look at it? Yeah. Oh, no. No. I just, I want to keep that so far away. I feel like, no matter how mentally strong, it affects you. And you think about it. And it's your brain. And I don't want to

have those thoughts. I want to try to put the right thoughts in and focus on it. And you know, one of the things me and my wife always try to say to encourage one another is we don't get to control what people say about us, but we do get to control who speaks into us, you know, and what voices we allow to speak in and shape our heart and our mind. And ultimately, that then actually does shape your future, you know. And so, no, we do. At least I don't, like, ever. I'm a massive product of your environment guy. Like, you are what you put yourself into. And who you surround yourself with. And you are what you get yourself out of. And, and, So I'm very much that.

So I have to create boundaries for myself and I only go into comments or DMs on Tuesdays. Like that's the day for me. Because I know I'll fight with everybody in the comments. It'll be a classic 90s bar brawl in the comments where bottles are busted overhead. So it's Tuesdays only. But I allow myself to go into the comments then, going to my DMs then. And what I do, and this is a, I feel like this is a selfish thing. I'm saying this because I do it selfishly.

I had such a bad relationship with social media and all of the voices that I would let affect me that have no effect on me. Yeah. And so what I started to do was I would go into my DMs and I would say it. I would say, if you need help, DM me, because I want my DMs to be a place that I don't have to go into thinking I'm dodging. So on Tuesdays, I go in and I grab four or five people and I see their story and I just Venmo them. I don't ever follow up because I don't like to always hate what's in my phone and what I'm always around.

And it's not about me being like, look at me. I'm very grateful that I get to help. And it's selfish because I do it to make me feel better as in I don't want to hate social media. I don't want to hate. And so I've found that to be a tool that allows me to live a healthier life. That's great. If I'm in a bad place, I've always found that if I serve, it helps me get out of a bad place. I totally, thousand percent agree with one of my good friends and one of the people that really helped me in trying to be accountable to a lot of things.

Whenever something really hard would take place or disappointing or feel like you're just in that valley, we had a deal. First thing we did, no matter what morning, noon night, we'd go find somewhere to surf. And it is, in my opinion, the greatest thing to get you out of that funk. I've only in the last couple years found that that to me is a funk releaser because I would just try to fix, again, we're just trying to, we're talking about problems and how do we fix a problem and we attack that problem right on, but I've just found that whatever my problem is, 100 people will be so happy to have my problem.

And so if I can help, I've found that to be my selfish way of helping myself. And serving has helped me. so much whenever there's such a weight on me. And that's a pretty new thing for me because I always felt that I wanted everything to be a little better because I had been there. But man, social media can be so toxic and hard. It can. But it can also be used for good. Yes. And that's what I, that's my trying to be my relationship with it. Can I ask how do you, how do you like to serve? What also fills you up when you serve? So what fills me up, and again, this is all, it all feel so selfish talking about it is that I feel like if I can help things that I needed when I

was a kid. Gotcha. So mostly like food insecurity, big time. And that doesn't have to be through social media, but we didn't have three meals for a lot of my life. And so to know what that's like and to hopefully alleviate some of that pressure and pain, that financially helps me. It helps me help them.

Again, this feels so weird to say because it does help me. It helps me. I get that, though. I mean, I really believe sometimes that some of our greatest pains in life actually end up turning to some of our greatest purpose in life. Like what we experience that might have been hard can actually lead to areas we can create impact. because that was a pain, that was something hard. And now you get to have a purpose in helping those that are still in that situation. I used to be so resentful of it.

I'm not anymore. I don't know about you and how, because we all have traumas. I don't know anyone that doesn't have traumas. I used to be so resentful of mine. Now I'm so grateful that I have them because I have such perspective. And you cannot purchase or ask for perspective. You have to go through it to get it. And so I'm grateful for that at this point in my life.

What about you? About perspective? Yeah. I think perspective is one of the easiest things in life to lose and one of the hardest things in life to gain. I really believe that. I think perspective changes everything. Perspective on gratitude versus comparison. You know, we live in a society that I saw a stat not long ago,

a couple years ago that said 12% of our daily thoughts are spent in some form of comparison. And I thought, man, like, and I know I've fallen into that trap, especially when I've gone into disappointments, right? Like, you know, cuts or, you know, you get cut by a team, told you're not good enough. You can't do this. And all of a sudden, you know, I will watch a game, and all of a sudden I see myself comparing or saying, well, I've never lost of that guy or did this or that. And all of a sudden, you're comparing. And what comparison does is, I believe it's a thief of all joy. That when you start comparison, your joy is just absolutely taken.

And I don't believe that comparison and gratitude can coexist at the same time. I really don't believe that. You can go back and forth, but I don't believe they can coexist at the same time. And I found it for me is when I'm in a state of comparison, it's most of the time what you're saying to God is, is God, you screwed up on my plan. Because I should be doing that. I should look like her. I should have this. I should do this, blah, blah, blah, whatever this. And that's not a state of gratitude. And so what I've tried to do to fight that

is, one, if I know that's an area of weakness for me, don't put myself in it. But also, if I'm going to do it, I need to go through and practically work on and share and talk to people about all the things I'm grateful for and remember all of the blessings that I have in my life, the people I have, the things I've gotten to do and see and be a part of. And that's a way to fight it for me. and like that's an example of trying to fight to keep perspective because I know that's the area where I can lose it quickly. And I know this could be a pitfall. So let's prepare and fight it before we keep falling in the same trap. How do you catch it before it becomes so big that it really bothers you?

I think friends, family, accountability, having those people speak into your life talking about it before you just keep doing it. I think it's easy to say to people, no, I'm good. That's not even an issue. I'm fine. I'm totally good. And we just, we lie to ourselves. We lie to others, but then we also do it by lying to ourselves. And I think the easiest person to lie to is yourself.

I'm fine. I'm good. It's not even an issue. I'm good. But then all of a sudden you're there and you're thinking and your brain's going and all of a sudden, you know, you're falling into the same trap. So trying to be honest, trying to be vulnerable. And I don't think that has to be with everybody.

but close people into your life, people that you're allowed to speak into you, I really believe in that. I believe in having people that love you, but love you enough to tell you the truth and be there and that you can count on are loyal, but that are also willing to maybe be disliked if you're frustrated too. You know, like those people are rare, but incredibly special. In my second book I wrote, it was called Fail Until You Don't, and it's very practical. So I didn't reinvent any sort of wheel. And it's just do when it doesn't work out, like do it again, but make sure you learn something. Like that's basically the whole book.

There's nothing magical about it. It was a super practical. Hopefully, it was a guide for me that hopefully others could use. But there was a chapter in that I wrote talking about the value of people that can tell you suck. And what it was was, there was. Those are really the only people that you can believe to tell you're awesome to. Because, man, everywhere, especially like with our jobs, you're awesome, you're awesome, who knows?

And it's easy to tell someone that they're doing a great job. But at this point, I value people that can be honest with me. Like, my wife is that. I don't know if yours can do that. No, she can. And if it's, but when she tells me that I do something really well, like I know that it's real and it matters because she tells me. when I don't. And again, if we're talking about counterintuitive things, you would go, well,

why would you want someone that tells you that things aren't good? Well, because that's how I know I'm doing good when they tell me because they tell me when it's not. You can really trust it. Because you can really trust it. And I totally believe in that, like having truth tellers in your life that you can really have speak into your life, I think is so incredibly valuable and important. And I also really believe, you know, Proverbs tells us he who walks with wise man will be wise, but the companion fools will suffer harm. And if you're around people that aren't trying to improve and grow and adapt and they're not speaking that into you, you're going to become who you're around every single day. And I want to have those people speak into me and

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Yeah. Because I don't, it doesn't feel good. Yeah. It's like failure in general. And people will go, you write and you talk about failure all the time. You like it? No, I hate it. Yeah.

But I need it and I love that I'm able to do it. But also without failure, the success wouldn't mean near the same. It'd be like being born into royalty and not understanding what it was like to actually work and have. I would hate that. And I totally agree with that. And I just believe that failure many times can be our greatest learning lessons in life. It can be the areas we actually grow and adapt the most. Yes, you can learn from wins.

But man, sometimes the pain and agony of defeat will actually propel you because you don't want to feel like that. And I think that can be something that can be so motivating, but also transforming because it's easier to sometimes. You don't always want to look. Actually, I remember my first start at the University of Florida. We played not a very good team, and we won, and I think I went 13 for 17 for a little over 300 yards, touchdowns, and some more rushing yards, and touchdowns, and the game went good, got pulled right after halftime.

We were winning, and the next morning I was the first one into the office, and there was one offensive coach that beat me in there, and I walk in. And most of the time I'm pretty happy and try to be joy-filled and walk in. And he looks at me and goes, why are you smiling? And sometimes the question asks,

shouldn't be a question answered, you know? You don't say anything. He said, sit down. And he has four plays pulled up on the monitor. And he hits play. And he fast-forward and rewinds it dozens of times. Hits the next one. Fast-forward rewinds a dozen.

Third play, fourth play. All four were my only four. incompletions. And we've watched them each a dozen times. And he puts the remote down. And he looks at me and said, you could listen to everything that they're saying on TV, listen to ESPN and what all the people are saying. And if you do, you will have no chance of ever being your best. If you're just willing to listen to the hype and the praise, the only chance you'll have of ever being your best is if you're willing to look at your suck. How did you feel about that?

Oh, everything in my flesh wanted to be like, dude, you just sound bitter. Like, you sound like a mean, grumpy old coach. But he taught me such a valuable lesson that I, now I'm so grateful for. And throughout that time, we actually got really, really close. And sometimes because of those hard conversations, and I was so grateful for it because it taught me such a valuable lesson. Like, if I want to be my best and our team wants to be our best, it's not going to come because you just look at highlights.

It's going to come because you're willing to study the disappointments. and that's very hard to look at. It's very hard to study those things and be willing to look at it so that you wouldn't repeat it. And I remember going over and say, you do this against Georgia, Ohio State or this team or Tennessee.

Well, we'd still probably beat Tennessee, but the other ones, we were going to lose, you know? And it was like, yes, there's a lot in me that my flesh and my pride didn't want to hear that. But when I would humble myself and actually try to be a listener, he was actually telling me incredibly good advice. And I still remember that to this day.

It's just such a, I think a hard lesson too. But, I mean, it's not hard in the moment. Like there's nothing physically hard about it. But it's just shots at your pride, right? But it was such a valuable lesson. And I'm just beyond grateful for that coach. I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but I would think that when he would praise you later,

you accepted that so. much more. Because you knew it was real. So much more. And it actually made me want to do good enough to earn his praise. Who was the coach? Do you mind saying? I don't say anything.

I don't say anything. That's okay. Sorry. You said such nice things about them. Yeah, it's hard to live in something that doesn't feel good. Delayed gratification, right? And my TikTok is a lot of baby videos now because obviously we have a baby. I don't get that.

And to watch swaddles. Oh, that's another thing. Were you a good swaddler? Well, no. But they make those swaddles now that you really don't have to do all the work. There would be times where I'd have to try to swaddle her myself and it would end poorly. Like if it was. And what Divi's of my wife was always like, it's not tight enough.

And I'm like, babe, I don't want to cut off circulation. Her head's like, no, it's got to be tighter. And I was like, okay, you got to do it because I don't want to like, it's just too tight. And she's like, no, they need it. I feel with a girl, it has given me a softness that I did not think that I had in me either. Because I think if I had a little boy, with a little girl, I didn't want the swaddle to be so tight. I was scared to make it tight because this is like a sensitive flower. And my wife was like, tight, got it.

Me, I was just so, but I've never been that gentle towards anything. I think having a girl has done that for me. Yeah. Do you think that you will be able to discipline her? My easy answer is yes. I know it's right. Like obviously we all need structure and coaching and encouragement and love. But I've told me like, I don't know, 50 times.

I'm like, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I can do it. Like, I think you're going to have to do it. And she's like, are you going to make me have to be like the hard parent? We have the same conversation because I talk a really big game. And then my wife, even in micro moments now, she's like, you're the wimpyest. You're nothing like you say you are. You're not Mr. Tough guy.

Me too. I'm the baby. I am the baby too, yes. I was watching some clips of you talk about, and my language may not be right. So please correct me if I don't say things right here. But I was watching some clips of you talking about what you're very involved in, which is the trafficking or anti-trafficking. Thank you.

Yeah, big difference. Yeah. And again, I'm going to say things wrong. No, you're not. I'm just giving you hard time. Yes. And I was watching you like show computers. And my first question is, why is this so passionate?

Why are you so passionate about this? What happened in your life to make you want to be? be so involved. Yeah, thank you for asking me about it. It really is one of, if not the biggest, greatest passions in my life. And I think it's one of the greatest evils in our world right now. And I really believe it's a battle between good and evil. What made me passion, or I think what helped lead me into this fight was many years ago, my dad, who was a missionary, evangelist, pastor, preacher, all the above, was in a third world country where faith isn't allowed. And he was, was leading pastors in underground pastors conference so they don't get arrested and they can go back

to their communities and do ministry. And when they're in this underground location, other men enter with four little girls and they start to auction off these four little girls. And my dad is just not someone that could look the other way or do nothing. That's why he's one is just one of my greatest heroes. And he takes out all the money in his wallet for the rest of the trip. to get up back home, and it was about $1,250, and he was able to purchase the freedom of these four girls. And afterwards, my dad calls me, like, hey, dad, how's his trip going? Like, what are you up to? And he's, then he tells me what just transpired. And that's not your, like, normal Monday night conversation, right? And I couldn't help but ask, hey, dad, all of these pastors, what did they do?

Were any of them like, hey, Mr. Tebow, let me go find him a place to stay tonight. Mr. Tebow, let me go find him dinner. I'll get breakfast in the morning. Like, not one of them. And he said, oh, Timmy, you don't want to hear they all made really, really good excuses. Like, you know, Mr. Tebow, the men you just gave that money to, they're going to go do something evil with it, which is probably true. But go say that to those four little girls. And that was the first part. That was very convicting to me of how many times have I been someone that has just made

really good excuses when I didn't do what I knew I was supposed to do. And then I got on a flight and I flew to this location and one of the first little girls that ran up to me and this little girl holding my leg. And one day her mom selling her, she didn't make enough money. And her mom being in just such desperation and frustration when she came home, her mom took her and she boiled out her eye. because she thought, well, if nobody, if you can't make enough money, then I'll make you look a little bit worse and people might have more pity on you. And I just didn't know what to say to this little girl. What do you say to her when you want to share something encouraging about love or faith or family?

But her idea of love, her idea of family, Dad's the first one to rape you and mom's the first one to sell you. Like the people that are supposed to protect you or the worst moments of your life? What do you say to her? And I'd just be honest in saying the moment I didn't know what to say. In many days still now, I don't have words. One of the things I feel like I've learned along the way, sometimes there aren't perfect words.

for a situation. But what's needed is just consistency. Just show up again and again and again. And now that little girl is grown up and she still has her scars, but she also has a lot of joy that oozes through the scars. And that was the biggest catalyst for me into the fight and then learning more about it and then, you know, getting into the fight against human trafficking and then child exploitation and satanic ritualistic abuse and child sacrifice and organ harvesting and sex torsion and all of this evil. And it's just been honestly something that I believe that God has called and created me for this fight. And I've just screwed up so many things in my life. This is one that I genuinely feel like he has called me into.

And it's one of the greatest fights of my life. And it's the worst evil in the world. In my opinion, you have more than 50 million people that are trapped in human trafficking. It's more people that are in slavery than ever before in human history. And this year, you will have more than 400 boys and girls that will be abused or exploited around the world. 400 million plus. Like, we're talking about some of the worst evils on planet Earth. And then, you know, sometimes people ask, but what about here in the States?

It's like we got to be doing better, right? That would be my question. How prevalent is it here? Well, it can get a little bit complicated in some of it. But although in some of trafficking, we're a little bit better than others. Still trafficking is off the charts here. It's in every neighborhood and community, and exploitation is off the charts. Like when it comes to the trading and distributing of child sexual abuse material,

essentially children getting abused and rape, we are third worst in the world. China, Russia, U.S. And then when it comes to the buying of live stream rape of boys and girls, we're number one in the world. And so I love our country so much. And we have been blessed and we are blessing to so many around the world. But in this fight, yes, I believe that we are failing and we have to do better. There are so many boys and girls suffering in our neighborhoods. and every single one of our neighborhoods

from the richest, you know, neighborhoods to the poorest neighborhoods. Like, this is an evil that crosses every single one of them, and we have to do better. It's not that I like going up to Washington, D.C., but we have to, and thankful the Lord, you know, a few weeks ago we were able to get a big bill pass that we believe will help a lot of lives

and we're working on more, and we've got to make more legislation, we've got to be able to enhance more law enforcement, We've got to have more people standing on the line fighting against this evil. This is an evil that is so rampant here in our country and around the world. You know, there's just so many stories I could tell you in evidence of it. Like probably one of the maps that maybe you saw was the red dot map. That's exactly what it was.

That was just a six-month screenshot of a law enforcement database where they track unique IP addresses that are downloading, sharing, or distributing child rape images almost all under the age of 12. And just a six-month screenshot of the U.S. is over 338,000 unique IP addresses that were doing this. Yeah, it covered the whole map. Yes. I mean, it started off and it was just a white picture of a map. And then it was all red. Yes. It fits, not if, because it's that prevalent, why isn't this a bigger story?

It's a really good question. And thank you for asking. I don't know if I'd have a perfect answer. I think one, because it's very messy and complicated, and there's so many different crime types under it. Like when you talk about human trafficking, there's four main types of trafficking. It's not just necessary, you know, human trafficking. it's labor trafficking, sex trafficking, it's organ harvesting, it's so many different things. When you get under exploitation, that gets even more complicated.

That's grooming and sextortion and CSAM and just so many different things. It becomes very messy and muddy. It's not necessarily like just selling drugs. No, it's so complicated and very unique. It's very messy. And then I would say another reason would because it naturally makes us very uncomfortable. And it's one of the first responses we get from quite a few places is, no, no, no, don't tell me. I don't want to know because it reminds me of my kids.

It makes me uncomfortable. And I feel like I used to be a little more patient with that. And sometimes I don't think I do a good job of being patient because you see a lot of harm taking place to a whole bunch of women and boys and girls. And you're like, no, we have to be willing to be uncomfortable. comfortable because what they're going through is actually hell on earth, in my opinion. And we're saying we're not willing to be comfortable because we're not willing to even talk about this, to strategize, to even be aware of this. And it makes us that uncomfortable. And I'm not trying to say that it has to be everybody's fight. But until we make it enough people's fight, no,

you're going to have the suffering of so many boys and girls. And one statistic would say your average girl that is being traffic gets rate 5.3 times per day. That is horrible and that is evil. And we're going to say we're not willing to be uncomfortable to at least talk about it, to share stories. So to create awareness, to create a movement against it, like, no, we have to be able to do better than that because she is suffering in such a horrible place right now.

And one more day for her and that life is worth us doing everything so she doesn't have experience that again. Is there a practical vigilance that people can have to be aware or to help curb this in any way? Yeah, I think probably my first encouragement with that, and thank you for asking, it probably wouldn't be quite in like the anti-human trafficking space. That's a little bit harder for probably your average person,

but what they can do is, one, talk to their boys and girls. Every time they get online or they get on a gaming app, they have to know that there are so many predators that are looking for them. And I have so much evidence to be able to show this over and over and over again. One of our partners is an awesome doctor named Dr. Michael Burke. He used to lead behavioral analysis for the U.S. Marshals. He told me one day, we're sitting there talking about it. He said, tell me what you need to tell every single mom and dad is every time their boy or girl picks up a phone.

It's like dropping them off at a playground knowing that hundreds of pedophiles are walking around. That's what it's like every time they get on the Internet. And when we have seen that now for so many years, and it is only growing and growing and growing. I'll give you one example of sextortion. Sexstortion is growing like crazy. It's essentially blackmail. And there's three main crime types with that. There's like relational sextortion, which is happening mostly to girls.

And that's they get an explicit photo of them and they leverage it to get more photos because of a proclivity. Then there's another super fast growing crime type. but it would be financially motivated, sexortion. And this is being done by a lot of people in West Africa and Southeast Asia to American boys, primarily about 90% boys, is they're catfishing them by pretending to be a pretty girl, luring them, and all of a sudden this boy sends a photo,

and then they say, got you. And over 35 boys committed suicide last year because of it. And in 2000, this is how fast it's growing. In 2021, there was 139 reports of it for the entire year. year. Now, on average, there's 137 reports a day of financially motivated sex distortion and primarily with boys that have a scholarship or reputation play sports because they're, and all of a sudden they get catfished and now they're so ashamed and they feel like their world is collapsing and that's what's leading to so much of the suicide. And so my

encouragement to all the parents and moms and dads that are watching is would you have this conversation with your son or your daughter before they ever get to it and say no matter what happens, we love you. Like we love you so much. There's nothing that you could do that we wouldn't love you. So if this happened, please come to us. And then I want to encourage families to be able to have the conversation. And then if this does happen, don't pay the predators. Save it. Don't delete it. Block the predators. Don't leave it. Call your local law enforcement. Let them bring in so they can have an investigation and be able to dive into it. And then I'd also encourage them if the images do get sent to other website or around their schools,

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it would be so hard. Yes. So it has to be so so preemptive even. Like the education, it feels like that you or people like you that are leading this cause, that there has to be like such a long space before it could ever even happen

to educate your kid to know that if something like this does happen in a way in this way is not near as bad but it would be like if you're going to drink you're not going to get in trouble, call me and I'll come get you. That's right. It's much lesser. But that's right.

Like, listen, you know, it's not going to give us the most joy, but we still love you. And we're always here to protect you. And I really believe that the conversations need to be a grace-based conversation, that we love you no matter what. You're always part of our family. You can never do anything not to be. And that's just my encouragement to parents, because seeing this happen to so many boys, boys and girls, it's just, it's heartbreaking. And this is, this isn't something that's just happening to like lower income families. No, it's across the board. This is happening in the,

the nicest of neighborhoods and the lowest economic areas. And it's all across the board. And so many of the offenders, they're looking for vulnerabilities, upset at mom or dad, you know, have a scholarship on social media and maybe saying some things, you know, a little aggressive on there and they're getting lured in and all of a sudden. And then I can tell you, I could, you know, personally show you some of the chats too. I mean, and they're ruthless. When they get it from them, they will encourage them. It is better for you to die. And they will keep saying it and keep saying it. And the kids feel like, man, my world is collapsing. But they don't realize that, no, the whole world's not collapsing. You feel like it is.

and they feel in that shame. And I think shame is something that, that it's something that destroys us from the inside out. And we have to help these boys and girls before they're in that position to know it's okay. They're still loved. They're still, they have stuff's incredible value and that will never change.

And they're okay. Talk to mom and dad. Call your local law enforcement. There's people that love you. It will talk to you that will work with you and you will get through this. I have a friend that works at a very, high level for one of the letter agencies that works in child crimes. I'm always in awe of how

he's able to do that period. I've had a period there first and then also look at the world as a beautiful place at the same time. How do you do that? How do you do that? It's a good question. and I would say, man, all the law enforcement we get to work with and see and support and be a part of opera, I love them so much. It's some of the most amazing men and women, and especially when they're working on child crimes. Like, some of these men and women that literally got to watch boys and girls get raped all day. Like, it's really hard. And, I mean, they miss days, they miss nights, they miss dinner, they miss Christmas, because they know if they don't find this little boy, no one else is.

And they're outmanned and they're understaffed and underfunded. By far, it's not even close. Like, not even close. And so they are incredible. And it's the number one burnout rate for law enforcement. I would imagine, right? Not even close. By far the number one burnout rate.

And we've got to do more to support them emotionally and mentally, for sure. But for me, it would be several things. but one of the biggest would be to see the joy through the darkness. To see the live transformation when a boy or a girl finally gets into a safe place, a place of love, real love, and protection and care, to see them have the chance to flourish. For our foundation, we have six core values we call it. five plus one because five's the number for grace and we always want to have a plus one mentality.

So instead of calling it six, call her five plus one and our plus one core value is we bring our best because monsters are chasing her. And it's because a young girl who went through some of the worst evil imaginable for seven years in the middle of it, why she's going through it, she wrote those words. Would you care enough to? rescue me. Monsters are chasing me. So that's why we bring our best every day so that we can get to her before the monsters do so that we can protect her from any more of those monsters. Like I would say that's, yes, it's daunting. It's overwhelming. And sometimes it feels like, man, what dent are we able to make? And I think of this last year, the team was just telling me,

I think it was yesterday that God has allowed us and so many people have supported us. But with our team and partners, I think this last year we've been able to, um, safeguard just over 2,500 kids and be able to help hold accountable over 3,000 predators just in the last 365 days. And sometimes you think, man, the grand scheme, that's just a dent. But it's not for those 2,500 kids. It's not for them. That's their whole world.

Yeah, it's the starfish story where... One more. Guys walking on the beach, there's starfish everywhere, and he's taking it, he throws it in. But there's thousands everywhere. He grabs another throws it in, and the kid says, why are you throwing starfish? There's so many, you're never going to be able to get them all. And he goes, yeah, but I could get it for that one. That's right.

That's right. I don't want this question to seem too simple because by me asking it, I'm also factoring in how hard you work, your persistence, your attitude, your effort. But are you ever thankful that you were good at football so you could bring to light things like this? Yes, sir. Very much so. I'm very grateful for the platform that sports has given me. But I would also add to that, if my greatest effort at the end of my life was for a game, my life missed the mark.

It just, I believe, it would miss the mark. And I hope I take that effort multiplied times a whole lot to fights like this, where at the end of my life, it wouldn't be my greatest effort, passion, focus, determination was for a game. But it would be for those that are suffering, those that are in the darkest, most evil, crisis conflict filled places. That's what I hope my greatest effort would be for. Were your parents able to allow you to keep that perspective, even as a young athlete, to know that the game you're playing,

it's important, but you're eventually going to see it's not the most important things. Did they teach you that early? They helped me a lot with that, but I've got to just be honest. It's hard to keep that priorities. Like I think just being really honest, about it. I think that I've, it's easy to have, you know, it's easy, like sometimes when you're asking, you're like, hey, what are the most important things in your life? And you're like, oh, it's, you know, it's faith family than football. But there's too many times if I was being

really honest, if you could actually weigh my heart, those would be flipped. You know, just, and it's not that I didn't love it or care. It's just that they weren't in the right order. They just weren't in the right order. Too many times, too many days. and again perspective and that's really really hard but yeah i am so grateful for the platform that the game gave me but i'm more platform that i get more grateful that i get to take so much of the lessons you learn from a game and they drive and the competitives and all of that but now bring that to something that is so much more meaningful because you go sorry you know how I would present a counter to whenever you question, and we're just talking, but whenever you say sometimes they were flipped.

Maybe they were flipped and you were focused, let's say, on football the most over faith and family for a while. But knowing that if you focused on football the most for a while in the end, because of your success in football, you would be able to pay so much into your faith and family because of your hyper-focused into football. Like that was part of the plan. And so when you say that, and you're like, it was wrong. What I hear and feel is at that time, maybe that's what was needed. So in the end, you could actually pour more into the faith and family because of the work you did for that limited time in football where that was your focus. I totally get your point. But just because the results lead to something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

I was asked the other day about if, you don't get to see this evil decrease in your life, something to the extent of it, just in a conversation, would you still do it? Of course, over and over and over again. Because we can't just do things because of what we hope the result might be. We have to do it because we believe it's right, because every one of the boys and girls is worth it.

And yes, man, do I hope and pray the result is that we get to decimate some of this evil and kids are protected and they can be able to, you know, play at playgrounds and have freedom and love and just, yes, that would be amazing. But even if it doesn't happen, we still have to do it. We still have to do it. We still have to get up and go do it because they're worth it. They're worth it in the fight. they're worth it to sacrifice for.

I believe that they're worth it to King Jesus to die for. That means they're worth it for us to live and fight for. And so, yes, I totally get your point. Not a point. Regardless, it's the thought. Yeah, I totally get it. You know, but for me, it'd be worth it regardless of the outcome. I know you're in town tonight and you're speaking tonight as we're taping this.

What is your message, like when you would speak tonight, when you will speak tonight. Like, what's the message? Well, partially try to equip and encourage the individuals. And also, it will be to share about this evil specifically and I get to share with some people you get to work with, one of them's Eagle Freedom Fund. It's a fund that we invest in a lot of tech founders

that are creating tech to be able to fight back against this evil. We also do that with AI, trying to use AI for good. Like, I could give you a good example. encourage the parents that are watching. In my opinion, if you got a boy or girl, you should get them the, if you're going to get them a phone, get them the bark phone. It does not allow them to send or receive explicit images. It will, if any of them are getting groomed or lured away or any of this, it will notify the parent or guardian. Like, it's a great thing and we need more out there. Listen, I am not naturally against big tech, but too many times big tech is choosing more

profit versus more protection of boys and girls. Like, we have seen that over and over again. I do want to be very transparent, though, to say that Google has been remarkable. Google leads to thousands of rescues of boys and girls every single year. I don't think I would have expected you to say that. And not that it's a Google thing. I just, mostly I feel like tech companies don't care, except what they do care about is getting bigger and making more money.

Yes. I very much agree with you. but they have so much radical influence around the world. And if they were willing to say, no, we are going to put the protection of boys and girls, they could do it so fast. The technology is there. They could do it.

Like, there is such a problem right now with, so big tech have to be able to send trafficking or exploitation. If they get alerts of it or they see this or their programs detected, they got to send it to Nick Mc, National Center for Missing Exploid Children. But what happens very often right now is they don't send all of the metadata with it, which all of the metadata is locations and information and everything that law enforcement needs to be able to work that case.

It would take no more time or energy for them to do it. They don't do it most of the time. That means boys and girls will not be safeguarded and rescued because they're not willing to do it. Now, there's some people at some of those places that do work really hard at it, but as a whole in general, they could do so much better. And I'm just pled with them to please be willing to do this. And I would say the same thing for gaming platforms. Like Roblox, it is filled with pedophiles and predators.

So many. I could personally tell you dozens of kids that have been hurt because of it. like we have to do better as a society like i am not trying to like micromanage all of that that's not even my beliefs but if they are are willing to say no we're just putting profit over people we're putting profit over kids we're putting profit over this then yes i am begging like congress to step in to do something and one of the things that we're hoping and pray and they would do is vote on the stop-c-sysam act which will for the the first time be able to allow kids that are victims of exploitation to have their day in court

against big tech. That will be vitally important. It does a whole lot of other really good things, but that is one really good thing that it will do. And it will force them to send the metadata over to NICMECM so law enforcement can work those cases, a lot of other things with it. But as a society, man, when you see the suffering, we have to do better. And I believe we can. And I believe there's a lot of people that want to stand on the line of fighting.

against this. And I'm hoping and praying that maybe some of the big tech companies will have a change of heart and step out there and do something. I appreciate you sharing all that. I hope I didn't ask too many questions about that. I'm grateful. Thank you for letting me share to your audience. I genuinely mean that. I know sometimes it makes people uncomfortable, so I'm very grateful that you are willing to just stay in the conversation. Like, I mean that. That's not, I don't get that all the time. So thank you. Thank you. I'm just shocked as to when you actually hear the data that it's not a bigger story.

Yes. You're also right. It does make people wholly uncomfortable. And it's like how do you merge those to actually create change? Because you're right. If somebody's working all day and they're scraping by and they're home. And the last thing, it doesn't have to be this. they don't want to have to do something uncomfortable.

They're just trying to get to the next day. Yeah. Well, I really appreciate that you care so much, that you've dedicated so much of your life to it for anything positive. This is your calling. And so I appreciate how much you've invested of you into it because it can be anything. You can be a football coach right now. Why aren't you a football coach? This is so much more important and meaningful.

And I've been invited and some cool. cool offers in that, but man, and I love the game. You know I love the game. You still love football. Of course I love football. I love it. It's awesome. But man, if I'm being honest, and I really do love it.

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When you beat Arkansas in the SEC championship game. I'm sorry. I guess sorry, I'm not sorry, but sorry. I was there. Isn't Atlanta? Not a great day for us. Your freshman year, I remember, Ah, this Tebow kids can show, he's going to play.

It's a lot of goal line. Chris Leak started, I believe. I believe he scored. Maybe a couple. How many touchdowns you? It doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, I agree. It doesn't matter at all.

How good does that game feel for you? That felt good. That was a crazy game, though. It was. We went up. Y'all came back. We came back half time. After half time.

Pick six, maybe a fumble recovery. The punts would actually crush y'all. Do you remember the point? I do. What did we get a safety? Are you fumbled in the end zone? Hey, it doesn't matter. Like you said, it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. But that team was good. And I got to be very honest with you. I mean, it's from bottom of heart. I hope Arkansas gets back. I think it's great for the country. I think it's great for the SEC. I love the rivalries.

I was so excited when, like, early on and Sam Pittman when he was there and their defense was doing good. And they, like, had the rivalry with Texas was back. We were there for it. And I was like, this. He's just awesome, you know? And so I hope it gets back because I think it's an awesome place. I think there's a piece of it that's a little bit of a sleeping giant.

Like most people don't realize the history that's been there, how good they were for so many years. And I just remember going to play there, not just that year, but then I got to play them again against Arkansas, my junior and senior year. And my senior year, like, we're a number of team in the country, and y'all came to the swamp. and we had to go win on a game-winning drive. Yeah, we didn't win, though. Just so everybody knows, the story doesn't change. No, but they were the good team. Like, it's just, I love the passion and tradition there.

It's awesome. It's contagious. Like, when it's the last time we did a show there, I think John Daly was, it's just a trip. Like, it's awesome, and it's just so fun. So I hope they get back. You just did the T-boat thing, and I asked you how good it was. He turned into how good Arkansas is. So, like, I can respect and appreciate that and how nice you are there. Okay.

two other football questions left. When you go up and you give the speech, and now there's the plaque on the wall. After we lost. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. You did lose, however you didn't lose again. Yes, sir.

That's right. How long until you realized that resonated? Oh, a while. So it's funny about that. is after the fact, I went back to the locker room. I threw on a hoodie, kind of threw it on my head because there's still media walking around, and I went to the elevator to take the elevator to the coach's room to start watching the film that I wanted to go throw up watching. And as I'm getting in the elevator, all these media then walked in behind me,

but I'm in the back of a big elevator and my hoodie on and hats on. And they start talking and they just start crushing me. crushing. Like, bro, he's going to get torch for that. How he's not going to live up to that? I couldn't even believe that. Could you believe he said that? Blah, blah, blah. Like, and they're all these, you know, like, games, real media. And I'm just, I mean, like, just torching me. And it's not like, if people remember, it's not like that was a pleasant week or the next weeks, you know, until a few weeks later we beat LSU, and I think there were two or three, and then it got better. And all of a sudden, we start running the table.

But, you know, sometimes you just... One of my favorite quotes from Winston Churchill was, if you have enemies good, it means you stood for something at least once in your life. And for me, that has been very hard because I'm a people-pleaser by nature. I want to be friends with people. I want people to like me. And so sometimes in that, it makes it harder to stand up for things that you believe are right. But in that moment, my only hope and goal,

was to genuinely apologize because I, just myself, felt like I let down my team in Gator Nation. It was my fault. And I just really believe that when you do something wrong, you should apologize and not just say I apologize. Say I'm sorry. That's why I said it twice because I believed it was my fault. And I was just trying to do, take responsibility. And then I was always taught after you do something. something wrong when you apologize, then you say how it's going to be different.

And that was just my hope. And now some people were like, it's so cool. You said, y'all were going to win the championship. Usually I don't even say anything. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, no, I never said that. That was never part of this, you know. And now it's cool because, you know, yeah, people mention it. And it's cool.

But in the moment, it wasn't like that was like, oh, this is awesome and praised, you know. I would say the most meaningful thing was our practice the next day. We just decided. We had a players-only meeting, had a practice, and we went out, and it was the most violent practice I was ever part of. And afterwards, a whole team came together, and that team, I don't believe that there's probably to be on that team that thought we were going to lose again that year,

and maybe we'd have the chance to play for it all. But one of my favorite stories from it is one of my friends on the team that wasn't getting the chance to play. He was a backup wide receiver. And after he heard that, he said, man, I just heard what Timmy said and went to coach, He said, coach, would you just give me a chance to earn my way onto special teams? So Urban said, yeah, and he got some reps at special teams, and he kept getting better and better.

And by the Silla backup, but by the last game of the season versus, I don't even like saying their name, but FSU. And Percy Harvin, who was just one of the most remarkable players I've ever seen in my entire life. And he got hurt. and he came into the game and did an amazing job. And then SEC championship game, he caught one of the touchdowns against Alabama, who's number one in the country. And then he caught the game winning touchdown in the National Championship. And his name was David Nelson, and he went on to play six, seven, eight years in the NFL.

And why I love that is because sometimes in the beginning of years or teams or companies or businesses or ministries, you may think this is what your team looks like. But it doesn't. your team changes and you evolve and you adapt and you grow. And that was one of the special things about this team is people just kept rallying, coming together, and building, and growing. Like, we weren't the same at the end of the year that we were at the beginning of the year. Like, that's a different team. And we learned and we didn't let the loss define us.

The loss inspired us. And so you have a team that great players and talented players, but then other just incredible heart and team and serving together and rally. and all of a sudden it's just like it's a team win, you know, against in the national championship, against one of the best offenses in college football history in Oklahoma and San Bradford just won the Heisman and all of that. And our defense played out of their mind. And you have, you know, major right destroying the receiver on the first play of game. You have Ahmad Black who's one of my favorite players I ever played with because he's never believed in undersized,

wasn't as fast as others. He and he picks the Heisman trophy winner, you know, at the end of the game. And that's team, man. That's team special. Team isn't when you just show up and you wear the same jersey. No, that doesn't make you a team. Team is when you have the same vision and you're willing to suffer for that together for one another.

That's a great team. And that's what I felt like we had together. I hope the book does tremendous. We were talking about it before you came in. And so I hope people check out. I think it would be your 131 bestseller. So congratulations. Stop.

It's really fantastic. Really rooting for that 131 for you there. You're such a magnetic guy. I really appreciate the time. My final question, before we wrap, is if you could just beat one team the rest of your life, what team would you beat? I'm obviously going to go to college

because that's just the rivalries are just different. If you can beat one team the rest of your life and you get to beat them every time, what team do you beat? Because we were pretty good and they were so good. One of them that comes to mind is Alabama, but because I love the passion, and tradition and the history behind it, I couldn't do them.

I would have to pick either Georgia or FSU. I can't do it either. I can't let you. It's hard. For me growing up, FSU was the disdain. My dad growing up before me, it was Georgia. This is you. You get to beat one team.

No, we're winning our state. It's FSU. We're winning our state. There you have it, Tallahassee. There you have it, Tallahassee. You heard it. I heard it loud and clear. Seriously, thank you for the time. Thank you. And thank you for being willing to just talk about some hard things.

So I mean it so much. Thank you so much. And I so appreciate it. You do a great job on ESPN. You do a great job at talking about something that's very difficult to talk about, but making people genuinely curious about it. Because I think there has to be a curiosity to even learn, right? Like for me, I'm so curious about what people can do. And so I appreciate you spending that time. and just kind of getting into it with me when I didn't even know how to ask questions about it. No, it was awesome. Because I think a lot of people don't know how to ask questions about it, so they're afraid to ask questions about it. Yes, I think so too.

Thanks for having patience with me. No, thank you. And I hope the book does wonderful. And there he is the very cool Tim Tebow. Thank you. Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production. College football will hijack your weekend, ruin your sleep, and break your heart. And that's why we make the Solid Verbal College Football Show.

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