The Bobby Bones Show -  BOBBYCAST #681 - Nashville’s Hidden Secrets & We Do A Live Science Experiment!

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

Bobby puts science to the test with a live experiment that leads to a big reveal. Bobby and Eddie break down how much Ella Langley has made from “Choosin’ Texas.” We also get into co...untry music’s biggest controversies of the year so far, Hollywood and Nashville’s open secrets, and the most influential radio personalities of all time. Does Bobby make the list?! Plus, the bands we’d bring back if we could. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 So this is what happened in the last week. Are you familiar with Muse? The band? No. The app. So it's Zuckerberg. It's Facebook meta. And they launched what's basically an AI digital assistant.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Okay. I love to try everything out. So I saw Muse. I saw the talk about it. I downloaded it immediately. I put my credit card in it. And basically, you just tell it what to do and it does it. That's kind of the dream of it.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So it's the gap between you and AI? It's the gap between me and getting something done. But AI is not just doing work and feeding it back to me. It's actually doing the job physically. So this is what I did in Muse. By the way, not a commercial in any way, because this could end terribly because I've not seen the final product that we're about to reveal. Oh, no. You're the one that ends the world?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Oh no. I like, missiles start going off randomly. Just because you got Mews. So I got on and I had a picture of me playing at our show with Brooks and Dunn. And I want to put some cool pictures up in our studio of me on stage or really cool moments for my career with these artists. And so all I did was find a high-res picture. I thought it was high-res. And I uploaded it to Mews and I said, hey, would you?
Starting point is 00:04:48 please frame this and send it back to my house? Just that's simple. That's it. Wow. So it hits me back and goes, the picture you have uploaded is not high-res. I can use AI to fix the resolution if you'd like, and then I'll take care of it. That's basically the message. So I say, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And now I understand that it has my credit card and it's going to do what it does. So I didn't tell what store to go to. I just said make it big. That's amazing. So what I'm about to reveal here, because we haven't opened the box yet, is everything that it did when I said, please make it big, frame it, and send it back to my house, and you have permission to do next day or three-day air. Can I ask you, what was the source of the picture?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Like Instagram? What was the source? No, I think Reed had taken some pictures. Okay, so it was already kind of better quality than most. It was a good picture, but it wasn't high-res enough to blow up. Got it. That's when it said, hey, I'm going to high-res it up, and then I'm going to down this down, and I'm just going to send it to your house.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Okay. So you can slide that in here. And this is it. All I did was say, make this picture. And it said, okay, it messaged me and said, hey, are you okay with this price? It was the only thing it messaged me. And I said, yeah. And so that was it.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I don't know what's in here. You told it the size and everything? No, I just didn't make it big. Okay, so you didn't tell it like three foot by seven. Because I don't know those. Yeah, right. I don't either. It's like if I had an assistant, I would just say, hey, well, you might make this big and frame it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So this should be a picture of good quality. Come on, AI. Don't let us down. I've not opened this. This is not a trick. All right. Can you pull that open that? Oh, I see it. So it's in there. Step one is good. Let me grab that picture. Oh, now it's like, this is how you know. This wasn't fixed. It has that cable on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The band. We need scissors.
Starting point is 00:06:38 A scissor? Or scissors would be nice. Yeah, yeah, more scissors. Yeah, because it has that. I normally have a knife on me, just not today. Just kidding. What if you were pocket knife guy? I always carry a knife. In school, we had knives in our pockets and guns in our trucks. Dude, my dad was a pocket knife guy, and he would open doors with it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I mean, anything you needed. Arkansas Keith was a pocket knife guy. Arkansas Keith then graduated to a full-on Swiss Army knife. Of course, that's what my dad did too. Where it was like, we need a corkscrew? You need a toothpick? Now, if we were hunting, it was different because it was a much bigger knife. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Is this, are we so ill-prepared? Now, purposefully, that we don't have scissors in the whole building? If you have them in the front, I just got to get my feet. Oh, you got to go to a different building to get the scissors? We have to go unlock a door. Let me get my, take a little trip. Do you want me to try to pull it? No, we'll let them come back.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Okay. Because this proves to people that we weren't ready. That we weren't ready at all. The box just came in this morning. What do you expect it to be? You expect to be perfect? Great. Like if you ask an assistant, I want this big, you expect it to be what you asked for.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, I think it's going to be good. Okay. But we'll see. and then you have it do you even know about meus? I've heard of it. I've heard people talk about it, but man, I'm not like you. I don't jump on these things like you do. I see people talk about it.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I see things being done with it. Like right now, you did something with it, and then I will take that information and process it six months later. All right, cool. Cool. Thank you. All right. Will you cut this for me?
Starting point is 00:08:17 It's pretty amazing, though, that they found the company and they found, they did everything. Everything. Now, in the future, if not already, I'm sure these AI apps will have deals with certain companies to go there first. All right. All right. If you'll pull that box back. Is that big enough for you, first off?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. This is about the size I imagined. When you said big. I don't know what size this is. Would you hear me those scissors? That looks like the back. So the front is facing you. I'm familiar.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I can see the picture. Oh, I thought that's what you were asking. No. I can see the picture. What were you asking? What? You said, I don't know what... I don't know what size it is.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Oh, what size it is. Yeah. What I'm curious about is if it's high-res enough or if it's like upside down. So now we're... For those that are just listening and not watching, you're cutting the bubbles off of it. Here, why don't you take this and just...
Starting point is 00:09:18 I should have a real assistant. Here, take this... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take it and cut it all off and just hand it back to me. That'll be good. So what do you use AI-wise? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Google. When I Google something, it gives you the AI. overview. So that didn't even I mean, you didn't download anything. You're still using Google. It just changed. Correct. And it's great. The outline that it gives me for something,
Starting point is 00:09:40 it even does a little bubble, like, bitt-d-do-do-do-thinking, then it gives me the outline. But that's it. I don't do chat, GPT. I don't have it right things for me. Nothing. And not that I'm against it, I just it's like, I'm just not there yet. I don't really need it yet. If I want a picture
Starting point is 00:09:56 done, I think you just don't know how to use it yet. Dude, the way you're making it sound, I'm loving it. You're making it sound like it can just do anything you want. That's cool. Well, it's going to need your credit card. Would you give an app your credit card that quickly? No.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And then we're also going to get into the money that Ella Langley's made from Choos in Texas. Gosh, I bet that's so much money. The song's done pretty well. Yeah. How many weeks at number one? I mean... 23, as of right now. And I know, like, you say that.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I don't really know exactly what that means because I have nothing to compare it to. Do you have a song? Mariah Carey was the winner with All I Want for Christmas is You. So that would be non-consecatives. So that would be every year that ends up being number one for two or three weeks. Oh, got it because of Christmas time. Yeah. Okay, the picture's ready to go.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Slide it on over here. And the big reveal. Wow. Can you see that? Yeah. It did it. Does it look grainy or anything? No.
Starting point is 00:10:53 No, man. I know. That looks like a very clear high-res picture. So all I did was get into the app and upload a picture and say, handle this. Dude, that's amazing. And it handled it and then sent it to my house. That's amazing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Okay. So I'll hang that. I guess I'll upload more pictures. Overall, the whole process of like asking it, it come into your door. How long did that take? Four minutes? No, no, no. No, it didn't come in four minutes.
Starting point is 00:11:22 You asked it. You asked for it in four minutes. It took the two-night shipping. Okay. So like just... I think I did this. two nights ago. Dude, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah. So, imagine what they're doing with weapons. I don't want to. Yeah. That's so scary. So that's how we want to leave.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That's our science experiment. It works. That's a great picture. This is not an advertisement for meta or muse. How many more pictures are you going to get made? Probably three or four. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I may just upload 10 or so and be like, which ones do you like? Do them the best and send them back to my house. That's really cool. You guys think that's cool that all that happened? Did you tell it, like, how much you could spend? It ran a number by me. because I told it the size
Starting point is 00:11:59 so it ran a number by me like 220 or something to have it blown up, framed, mailed, everything Oh, Oh, dang So when they come in Eventually as they will I'll just have them sign it
Starting point is 00:12:16 Very cool You put it up All right you can prop it up against the door Thank you All right that's number one It's pretty amazing I do want to talk about Ella Langley And how much money she has made
Starting point is 00:12:25 from Chuse in Texas. So overall, that song has generated about $14 million. So that's total that's brought in by the track for everybody for the full pie. So the exact portion that goes into Ella Langley's pocket is different. And I'm going to do some estimating myself. Okay. So gross revenue breakdown at a $13.9 million, I would say publishing is going to get about six of that. label is going to get about eight.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Oh, dang. So that's the whole pie, right? So far, so far. The songwriter split. Because Langley co-wrote the song with Miranda Lambert, Luke Dick, Joy Beth Taylor, that $6 million in publishing royalties is divided among four writers and their publishers. Okay. So that $6 million is going to be split up in all the ways.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And the publishers, is that the company? Like the publishing company that took that? Yeah, that pays her. Got it. So the record label split is $8 million. So that's the two here. 23 weeks at number one. I think once everything is split up, she made around $4 million.
Starting point is 00:13:38 That's amazing. Because she's taking money on both sides. Yeah, because she's a writer. And so Miranda, as a writer, she's just going to get the publishing. How much do you think she makes off of it? Probably the same split on the publishing side. It's probably a million and a half, two million bucks.
Starting point is 00:13:53 That's not a bad day. And that's just as of today. So, yeah, that's the biggest song ever in the history of the world. And you know what's funny is I feel like that's just the lottery, right? Like winning the lottery. You write, these people write so many songs. They think some songs are really good. They think some songs are going to make them a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Then you have one like this where you're like, well, I didn't think it would be making me that much money, but it does. I would bet you they finished the song that day and thought, that's just another song. I bet it's pretty good. Yes. That's just a song. Yeah. That's pretty good song. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But that's so rare. That's rare that song is in. No song has ever been number one that long across the multi-form mat chart, the all genre. Ever? Ever. That's the biggest song ever on the Billboard Hot 100 since they've started. Even like Elvis days. It's kind of like football records. You know, they have the old leather helmet days. That doesn't count with the records as of today. Got it. So modern. It's the biggest song ever. But it beat out things like Old Town Road, which is there for a long time. Mariah Carey, which she could end up taking the record back. still going to have Christmases. Unless AI ends up shooting missiles and we go into like a global catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And there are no more Christmases. I do have the top five country music controversy so far this year. Us Weekly wrote an article on this. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:15:07 Now we're January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September. Nine months into this thing? 10, 10 months right at it? What do you think
Starting point is 00:15:15 has been a controversy this year? Overall or do you say just overall? Country. Dolly? Can you think of any? That's not like,
Starting point is 00:15:21 she died. That's not a controversy. Some people. may not believe that she's dead. No, I'm just kidding. Everyone believes that. Controversy? Does anything come to mind?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Did anyone fight? Like, I'm sure. Oh, I mean, I feel like Morgan Wallen's always part of some kind of controversy. Number one, you just pick Morgan Wallin across the board? Number one, the piano flip on stage. Oh, yes. And then he threw something. And then he threw the cell phone.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But you know, it's a pretty tame year. if that's the biggest controversy. Agreed. So he was playing a live show for one of them and he, like I guess the piano wasn't sounding right or he couldn't hear it in his ears
Starting point is 00:16:00 and he flipped the piano. The other was the security person had the phone and they were holding it up and he goes and grabs the phone and chunks it. I feel like that's theatrics. You know, like... I felt like it was the piano
Starting point is 00:16:11 whenever I saw it the first time. I didn't realize he was actually upset. No, I get being upset, but I mean, like you're not that big of a baby to just throw something over. I feel like... But he threw two things... Was that the same night?
Starting point is 00:16:23 No, but if you're just throwing things, I think if you do two, you're a thrower. Yeah. I think you're just reacting. It's a bit petulant. You're just throwing stuff. Have you ever done that? I've gotten so mad that you do something? I don't throw her, kick, or break because I understand that I have to pay for it later.
Starting point is 00:16:37 That's a good awareness. I would like to, but I don't have that rage part. The only time I punch stuff is when Arkansas loses a close game and I punch the couch, but we don't play close games anymore. So, no punching. Yeah. So number one's Morgan Wallin. Number two is the Bailey Zimmerman incident.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Oh, the hotel room. So he canceled a concert in May, and that involved him stumbling onto a stage, damaging a guitar, throwing a microphone, causing $16,000 in hotel room damage. He apologized, took responsibility. The criminal charges were dismissed. Apparently, he paid it off. He apologized? Yeah. The concert itself became secondary to all the events afterward.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I don't remember the concert. Also, this really didn't hurt him in any way. No. They put him in the news. The only people that hurt was the hotel people. But even then they got it paid for. You imagine being a housekeeper and going to that room and be like, great. This is my day.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I have to clean all this up. Number three is the band Perry's family feud. Oh, that was a good one. I'm starting to think this might be set up, though. Really? Just promote the brothers song? Just a little bit. If you were to percentage me on this, I still think it's 70% real.
Starting point is 00:17:50 30% it could possibly be a work, like a wrestling work. Interesting. They're both in on it? Yeah. I mean, that would make a lot of sense, and I would sign off on that. He's still posting things about how he was kicked out of the band. It's kind of the reason that he's using to promote himself. It doesn't put her in the greatest light, but I don't think she cares.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It doesn't put her in the greatest light for just the way it is now? No, because she forced him out of the band according to the story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, if she's a part of it, though, like say this is planned. what would she care that it doesn't put her in the greatest light? Not if she owns part of the entity. Love it.
Starting point is 00:18:29 That's so true. And again, it's not as if they committed a crime and they did get a lot of press from it. I still think it's real, but more of me thinks this could be a work. Brandon, why do you think it could be a work? Just because it's still going? Like he's still trying to milk it? Yeah. There's just too much.
Starting point is 00:18:46 There's too much theatrics going on. like it all seems planned it all like the posts seem planned even their response that they they posted a response and then they took it down and then he immediately was like oh they took it down like it was all it was just two staged
Starting point is 00:19:04 if she would have addressed it and then never talked about it again I think I would have believed it but the fact that there's any sort of conversation about it still feels a bit planned and I can appreciate that I love wrestling sure I don't mind storylines.
Starting point is 00:19:20 But yeah, number three, Neil Perry has publicly accused his sister Kimberly of forcing him out of the band after nearly three decades. So her husband, Johnny, could take a place. And so he has got a band and I see him pop up my algorithm. And I like the songs. We like the songs. I heard one song. Or the song that we heard. Number four, and I've had a real issue with this one, the Stella Lefty and the Nepo Baby debate.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Oh, gosh, yeah. Because there's a difference in having a wealthy family and being a Nepo baby. And I think those semantics are what irritates me the most because people like, she's a nepo baby. Her dad is not in the industry. A nepo would be if I hire my daughter to work in podcasting or media and get her a job in my company or a friend's company. Did he have a coupon for being in the record business? I don't think so, no. Because if that was the case, that'd be nepo.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I don't think there's a coupon to that. If so, I'd have bought that. So she is the daughter of a billionaire. Nobody is debating that. And a lot of people are just going nepo baby. It's also like nepo baby season in America where everybody that has success that has anybody connected to them in any way is a nepo baby. Now I did think that if you have a lot of money that does give you an advantage of everyone else. Yes, but that is not the definition of nepotism.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Not at all. And there's a lot of artists that have money. I mean, you can look at Thomas Wret and say it's a nepo baby. Sure. Money. His dad's in the industry. Allowed him to meet songwriters. That is a nepotism.
Starting point is 00:20:45 For sure. Yeah, Thomas Wright is a Nepo baby. Yes. Yeah. Yes. We love you, Thomas. Who else? Lucas Nelson is a nepo baby.
Starting point is 00:20:53 She is not. She's not. Her dad's just rich. Yes. And what I saw her in an interview say that her dad's not even part of Groupon anymore. Is Groupon still a thing? I don't even know. Who's a part of Groupon anymore?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Not even him. Yeah. So she's not a nepo baby. And then the other thing that's irritating to me with her is about her is that she's about her is that she's become really a punching bag for even other artists that haven't made it. It's such a bad look if you're an artist and you're bashing another artist anyway. Oh, yeah. Like I've seen country artists on TikTok and their content that works is them bashing cell lefty.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Not their music because their music's mid to suck, but their content that's getting streams as them talking about Stella Lefty so they keep doing it. That's a bad look. I'm remembering who they are too. Like I got two in my head right now. It's like it's their thing now. Are they artists that we know? They're just jealous. No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:21:47 We don't know them. That's why they're making Stella Lefty content. Yeah, but there's so many artists in town whose families are rich as well. But she's not an industry plant. It's almost impossible to be an industry plant in music because you can't make your music connect. You can get an advantage and they can juice up streams on the digital service providers. You can do all of that, but you can't make your music actually connect with people. And I see videos of elementary kids.
Starting point is 00:22:12 120 at a time singing that song. Oh, yeah. It's a really good song. And she can actually sing. Yeah. So I hate that for her because I think it was just creating a little momentum and then people saw that and just wrote it. You're right. And the more I think about it, like there are a lot of Nepo babies in country music. There's a lot of Nepo babies in the world. In the world. Yeah. Because if your parents successful, they want to help you. Sure. Anyone would do that. Your actress hero is a Nepo baby. Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah. She is a Nepo baby. I mean her mom, her grandfather, yes. It doesn't mean you're not talented.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Hillary from Lady A. Yeah, it doesn't mean you're not talented. No, not at all. What I'm saying is that nobody attacks them because you're right. Anyone would do that for their kid. So why are we attacking Stella? Because her dad's a billionaire. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That's it. And because she added Noah Kahn as a writer because that song sounded so much like stick season. And it does. And I think that was a smart thing to do, but that happens in country music all the time. Yep. Where artists have to add another writer because another song sounded very similar. So you just add that a writer. Add them in.
Starting point is 00:23:26 The thing, though, that I don't feel is fair. There are a lot of people that will take clips of her songs and they go, oh, she stole this one from this person, this one from this person. But they're taking like a four second clip and then identifying a four second clip in her song. That's not even the main part of the song. And they do sound similar, but find me songs where you can't do that. No, no, no, you can't. There's so much music in the world. Well, and there's so few chords.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yes, they're only a handful of chords. So that's number four on their list, a Stella Lefty and Nepo Baby. Jelly Roll gets political at number five. He spent a lot of his career saying he didn't want to get political. And then he spent a lot of time with Trump. And then he wanted Jimmy Kimmel and made jokes about Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And so he made a lot of not real enemies because the Internet's not real. Right, they're not. It's not. Yeah, yeah. The Internet's not real. Yapping. And it's not people who actually care about what they're, even what Stella Lefty had accomplished with her. And I'm like, that's not real.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Any of these people saying this to you, if you went up and met them in real life, they'd be like, oh, your songs are awesome. They would never say that to your face. Yeah. So they have jelly roll going on Kimmel after being with Trump, then making fun of Trump. And I guess the weird thing about that, too, was that we hadn't heard from jelly roll in a while. And then he came out. He hadn't heard from jelly roll in a while? No, because, you know, he went to the divorce.
Starting point is 00:24:41 It stayed in my feed. Oh, no, no, the divorce, but he hadn't done anything. He hadn't done anything publicly really since then, and then the first thing he does is that. There are a lot of videos of him performing his concerts doing covers. You ever see him a lot? Where people are like, Jellero was only doing covers at his show. It's like him doing Smash Mouts and Marcy Playground. Like Green Day.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah, Green Day. The honorable mention is Zach Bryan versus Brantley Gilbert. Now, do you remember when... Okay, so... I missed that one. We talked about on our show a little bit But February of 2026 This is when they had that
Starting point is 00:25:16 Alternative halftime show The Turning Point USA That Brantley Gilbert played Brantley and Kid Rock And Zach Bryan called it The most cringe blank on the planet And then Zach Brian and one of his buddies Did Dirt Road Anthem
Starting point is 00:25:29 And then changed it to Chili on a hot dog Do you remember us playing that? Chili on a hot dog And they're like standing at the bar And the reason they did that Brantley originally cut the song, had written the song, and so he responded publicly as well. So they have that on there.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Oh, my gosh. I feel like Zach Brian, too, just kind of a lot of controversy around that guy. You remember Chile on a hot dog? Chili on a hot dog. Now I do. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. This record is on.
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Starting point is 00:26:29 I'm Melissa Jeltson, host of the What Happened to Her podcast. We're kicking off the season with the Sandra Birchmore story, a case the police rode off as a suicide in a snowstorm. Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You never know who that devil is because he's wearing in disguise. Sometimes it's a police uniform. And you can get access to all episodes 100% ad-free with an IHeart True Crime Plus subscription exclusively on Apple Podcasts, available only to IHeart True Crime Plus subscribers. So don't wait, head to Apple Podcasts, search for IHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today. Up here would be the greatest place in the world to hide the body.
Starting point is 00:27:16 But someone will find it. He acted friendly. He talked friendly. He sounded friendly. They all knew that I did the scary boogie stuff, and I said, maybe she'll find out where this girl is. I saw him violent. Backhanded a bow!
Starting point is 00:27:34 And that's exactly what made us all think he had something to do with him. The clock is ticking down. in the woods are calling. There are a lot of demons in Putnam County, but I've met the devil, and he's real. I'm Paul Solitarov, and this is season two of the devil's quarry. Listen to The Devil's Quarry Season 2
Starting point is 00:28:02 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear The Devil's Quarry Season 2 ad free with exclusive content, Subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You broke me. You do not deserve happiness. I'm Andrea Gunning.
Starting point is 00:28:27 On this season of betrayal, we meet Carl Bryant. Carl thought he was living a normal, drama-free life until the messages started. You will have hell to pay. For nine months, someone infiltrated every aspect of Carl's life, threatening to ruin him. Cyberstalking. rotting, extortion, impersonation. And then the text threats escalated. Someone's not going to make it out of this alive.
Starting point is 00:28:58 This apartment. It's playing out in real life, not just on the phone. Every piece of evidence pointed to one man. But every piece of evidence was a lie. He was not going to stop unless we stopped him. Listen to Betrayal Season 6 on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Big Lives, we take a single cultural icon.
Starting point is 00:29:27 People like Jane Fonda, George Michael, Richard Pryor. And we pull apart the story behind the image. And we do this by digging through the BBC's vast archive. We're talking iconic moments in broadcast history. I'm not just a boxer. I'm educated. I can talk all week on millions of subjects. And forgotten interviews that change how we see these giants.
Starting point is 00:29:48 of our culture. Well, if changing the system from the ground up is revolutionary, then I'm revolutionary. We're here for the messy, the brilliant, the human version of our heroes. I mean, when I go on stage, I like to dress as slutty as possible because it makes me dance better for some reason.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I'm Emmanuel Joachie. I'm Kai Wright. And this is Big Lives. Listen to Big Lives on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcasts. This is the Bobbycast. There's a list here of Holly. Hollywood's open secrets.
Starting point is 00:30:24 And I thought this was pretty funny. And I'm going to read you some of these. I don't stand by all of them. Okay. But this is apparently the things that everybody in Hollywood knows. Okay. So like, just, just Hollywood. Your favorite celebrity definitely has genital herpes.
Starting point is 00:30:41 What? That's number 10 on the list of Hollywood's open secrets. Everyone has herpes. Everyone in Hollywood has herpes. Celebrities, waiters, everybody has herpes. Is this a deal where like we all have that mouth herpes? I don't think so. Genital herpes is not mouth herpes.
Starting point is 00:30:54 This is a terrible secret. Number nine, a lot of celebrities smell awful. Okay. And I think because the emperor has no clothes. Explain that. Do you know the story of the emperor has no clothes? Is that a cartoon, like a Disney movie? Nobody would tell the emperor that his clothes were bad or that he had no clothes
Starting point is 00:31:16 because the emperor was just, he had yes men everywhere. Oh, so no one tells them that they smell? but don't you know like I don't need anyone to tell me sometimes I do sometimes my wife's like you smell you're just used to the smell I don't know if I'm used to it I don't stink all the time but sometimes she has to tell me I smell bad what I'm saying is is when it's like when your house like you know like your house you think your house smells great but when someone comes over they're like what's that smell because you're living in someone that's cats or something yeah yeah yeah yeah uh Matthew McCona I smell bad oh yeah we've met him a few times but I feel like that was purposeful
Starting point is 00:31:50 where he was just like, I'm going to wear my body the way it's supposed to be. You know, like, I'm not going to shower. Maybe that's because he never showers. He just had to start saying that. Maybe. Men are concealing their sexuality. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 That in Hollywood, sure. Guys don't want to say they're gay because it would hurt their image. They wouldn't be able to work. All men dye their hair. I think there's going to be a lot of aesthetic. Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:32:16 parts of this where guys have breast implants, like peck implants, or caffinplants. That's part of their job, right? Yeah, probably. There's more nepo babies than you think. Yeah. Talk show appearances are mostly staged.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Henry Winkler is exactly who you think he is. That's the fonts. It says one of the nicest people ever, an absolute saint. That's cool. Spoilers are no accident. All those leaks are spoilers you see from actors. They're fake and they're set up. I believe that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You know what's not set up, though, Mike, is when they put the full movie out. Yeah, that's not a plan. Because nobody wants that. There's no benefit to that. when they leak a full movie on Twitter, because that's happened a couple times. It happened with Spider-Man,
Starting point is 00:32:53 and then it happened with the Odyssey. They put the full movie out, and you think, well, this has got to have only been up for five minutes because they would have pulled it down immediately, but you look, and it's got 1.2 million views. It's terrible. Everybody knows who the dirt bags are, meaning everybody knew about Epstein and Diddy.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I had heard Diddy stories, but I didn't know Diddy. But I had heard Diddy stories from people that I know that were like, he's a sleazeball, the worst. And they would say specific things, but what am I going to do? Nothing. Say something and not prove it. And then they sue me.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Because it's all hearsay. Jump in. Try to find them in the act. Jump in. Stop that. Everybody knew about R. Kelly. Everybody knew about Harvey Weinstein. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:33 The other one is, steroids are very common with male actors. This kind of goes back into the doing things to look good because your job has you looking good, needs you to look good. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Every male actor who gains 30 pounds of Pureline muscle mass, in four months, isn't eating chicken, broccoli and rice just to do it, as they say.
Starting point is 00:33:54 What are they doing? Steroids. Oh, they're not bulking, got you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because if you ask them,
Starting point is 00:33:59 it's like, yeah, I'd hired a trainer and then look at me. That's what you hear. Yeah. Like the Tom Holland. There's a similar one
Starting point is 00:34:08 that I did, Nashville's Open Secrets. Oh, let's go. They're not that dramatic. Sounds dramatic. That Nashville is way smaller than it looks and seems.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Okay. Meaning everybody knows everybody. Yeah. Yeah, there's a billion-dollar music industry here, but everybody knows everybody. You know, it's hard to work with, you know, who's got a moment right now, you know, who the climbers are, who the nice guys, the fake Christians, you know who all them are. Yeah, that's a fair point. And everybody knows everything. It is a very small community, even though it's kind of a big city.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Another one, being authentic is very much a marketing decision. if you have to talk about how authentic you are or how you try to be so authentic it's mostly your PR team creating that image even like photo shoots that put you in a place that looks like again
Starting point is 00:35:03 it's all marketing that your favorite artist sometimes doesn't even like the kind of music they're making oh that's a really good one Dude, that's so true. Yeah, especially early and mid.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And sometimes you'll have an artist that does like this odd kind of project. And you go, that's kind of weird for them, but it's actually the kind of music they wanted to make. Yeah, you'll hear it later in their career where they're just like, yeah, really, you know. I made my money. I made you. Exactly. That people that are overnight success for the most part, they've been at it for a decade. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Other than Stella Lefty. Now we're mad at her again. by the time that most people discover an artist, especially here, Nashville, us as a community, may have seen that person try a couple different versions of what you're seeing now that's cut through. Great point. Even from like the clothes that they wear, all kinds of things. Yeah, because there are some artists that have really made it, but we saw them try like a certain style, certain kind of songs.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And then they just, they shift and pivot and try something else and try something else. And then when they hit, it's like, wow, this person blew up. they've been trying different things to make it work. You know, even like I think about like Jimmy Buffett back in the day, he was a cowboy. Like Jimmy Buffett was a cowboy, wore cowboy boots, wore cowboy hats and stuff and lived in Nashville. But once that beach theme hit, that's what he became. Finally, it's, and I think if you listen to this show or watch this show, you know this by now. But the person singing the song, 50% chance they wrote a word to it.
Starting point is 00:36:42 A single word. That's really good. Because growing up, you just thought the person. that's saying the song wrote the song. I thought George Strait wrote all his songs. Probably very low percentage. Turns out he didn't write very many of them. So I think Nashville, the TV show, for me, is what really showed me how this system works here.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Because I wasn't living here yet. And it's very much writers to go to work. They have rights set up by their publishing companies that pay them to write songs. And they go in, they get there at 9 or 10, and they leave at 3, and they go back home. They live a seemingly non-creative life except for those six or seven hours. That's right. It's like going to work like everyone else. And then they have a different right the next day, maybe in a different place, maybe the same office with different people.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Just rotating in and out. It's very much a factory. Even the same with like artists. You know, I wasn't until we moved here until I realized like these artists also have a pretty strict schedule when they tour. Like, you know, they tour on the weekends, but then they have their Mondays and Tuesdays to have at home with their families like everyone else. So they have a weekend. It's just a different day than ours. I also think that people think touring is some, hey, you just go out and go hard.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I think that happens at the very beginning for artists. But by the time an artist has a massive show or even a big show, they've been doing it long enough to where the rose is, the bloom is off the rose. And you're just getting there, you're trying to eat right, you're trying to get your sleep. Now, occasionally there are those that still go pretty hard drinking wise. Yes. But I think a lot of these artists go much, not harder, but softer than you think, and that they're actually homebodies. Yeah. And then what I really like, too, is the piece of the pie.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Like you said, like everyone in this town gets a piece of the pie. Like, there's, it's almost like it's designed to where everyone is going to work on an artist, push a song, and then we're all going to get paid for our families. And it's, yeah. to PR, to labels, to artwork, to distribution, tour bus drivers, all that stuff. It's like, that's the way this town is where, like, everyone just gets a little bit, little piece of the pie. The nicest public persona doesn't even tell you how nice someone actually isn't in real life either. Oh, that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I put that on there. Because it's how they treat their bus driver, their band, their venue staff. That's right. There can be an artist that comes in and it sounds, they sound so nice. If you hear them or watch a video clip, you're like, that's cool. They're the coolest person ever, and they're really a jerk. Then you have some where you can, they're yelling at their bus driver. Yeah, ride me, ride me slow.
Starting point is 00:39:14 What do you say? Ride me smooth. Clay Walker, ride me slow. Ride me fast. You're like, dang, dude. The Bobbycast, we'll be right back. The music you love. Your favorite radio stations.
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Starting point is 00:39:53 download the free iher radio app today i'm melissa jeltson host of the what happened to her podcast we're kicking off the season with the sandra birchmore story a case the police rode off as a suicide in a snowstorm Her family never bought it, and the man they suspected wore a badge. You never know who that devil is because he's wearing in disguise. Sometimes it's a police uniform. And you can get access to all episodes 100% ad-free with an IHeart True Crime Plus subscription exclusively on Apple Podcasts, available only to IHeart True Crime Plus subscribers. So don't wait, head to Apple Podcasts, search for IHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today.
Starting point is 00:40:35 If anyone wanted to commit a murder, up here would be the greatest place in the world to hide the body. But no one will find it. He acted friendly. He talked friendly. He sounded friendly. They all knew that I did the scary boogie stuff. And they said, maybe she'll find out where this girl is. I saw him violent.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Backhanded a bow. And that's exactly what made us all think. he had something to do with him. The clock is ticking down and the woods are calling. There are a lot of demons in Putnam County, but I've met the devil, and he's real. I'm Paul Solitarov,
Starting point is 00:41:22 and this is season two of the devil's quarry. Listen to the devil's quarry season two on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the Devil's Quarry season two add free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. You broke me. You do not deserve happiness.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I'm Andrea Gunning. On this season of betrayal, we meet Carl Bryant. Carl thought he was living a normal drama-free life until the messages started. You will have hell to pay. For nine months, someone infiltrated every, aspect of Carl's life threatening to ruin him. Cyberstalking, swatting, extortion, impersonation. And then the text threats escalated.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Someone's not going to make it out of this alive. It's playing out in real life, not just on the phone. Every piece of evidence pointed to one man. But every piece of evidence was a lie. He was not going to stop unless we were. We stopped him. Listen to Betrayal Season 6 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dear honies, this is goodbye.
Starting point is 00:42:53 In February of 2024, celebrated illustrator and children's book author Patramathers and her husband Michael mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know that they had died by suicide. By the time you get this letter, both Petra and I will be dead. Next stop, Wonderland. Patra and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and in love. Why did they do it? And what did it do to the people they left behind? I would have given a million reasons to not leave this world had I known.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I keep coming back to I truly hope that Petro was a thousand percent on board with the plan. Do you think of him as having killed her? Yes, I do. I hold Michael responsible from my mother's staff. I'm Leon Naifak. And I'm Alice Gregory. Together we set out to interview everyone who got one of Patriot and Michael's letters as one married couple trying to understand another. Listen to death of an artist on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And we're back on the Bobbycast. They put out a list of the top 40 most influential American radio personalities of all time. Ooh. Okay. Dead and alive. Okay. Do you think I made the list? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:11 You have to make the list. This is all time? All time. Again, dead and alive. 40? 40. I feel like you're on the list. I hope you're on the list.
Starting point is 00:44:21 If you were to bet... That you're on the list? Yeah, what would you... If I say I bet you a dollar, what would you bet? No, no, no. I'll... Like what number you're out? No, just I'm on the list.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Oh, yeah. I would probably put... Like, how much money I'd probably put $100 on it? Then I'm on the list? Yeah, 100 bucks. All time? Yes, because I feel like that would pay me a lot of money. Oh, so you're saying the odds are bad for me then.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I mean, it's top 40 of all time, so I just can't think of that many. So I did make the list. Yes. Pay me. So a fact-check selection of the top 40 most influential American radio personalities of all time, spanning entertainment, music, news, sports, and talk radio. Wow, dude. So I did make the list.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I can give you the top five. Okay. Number one, Howard Stern. Yeah, for sure. Number two, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. Case of case. Casey Kasem. Number three is maybe not the original, but the biggest conservative talk.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Rush? Rush. He's dead, but rush. Number four, and that's the rest of the story. Paul Harvey? Paul Harvey. I think that's what he said, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And that's number five, I don't know. I can't give you anything because I think he was dead maybe before I was born, but Jack Benny is at number five. Oh, yeah. I mean, I know the name. Me too. I saw a TikTok clip of him. recently. Number six. Now, I didn't know this guy did radio, so it must have been black and white days.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's Bob Hope. Oh, yeah, dude. All that stuff was on the radio. All of those Christmas specials and everything, that was all, those were all radio broadcasts. Number seven's Don Imis. Yeah, Don I'm in BC, right? No. That's pig vomit, pig virus, actually, but pig vomit in the movie telling Howard's starting to go. WNBC. Got it, got it. Eighth's Dick Clark. Nine's Larry King. Wow. And then 10 is Orson Wells.
Starting point is 00:46:17 What do you know Orson Wells from? War of the Worlds. And a bunch of other books. That freaked everybody out. Yeah. Thinking that aliens were taken over. So was he a radio broadcaster or like a radio? That was him doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Wow. It's amazing. So we're at 10. Okay. So we have 30 left. Dude, hold on, though. Look at all those names. Like those are huge, huge, huge names.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I think only one is alive, and that's Howard Stern. Is Don Imas still alive? No, he's dead? Okay. Because Casey, Rush, Paul Harvey, Jack Benny, Bob Hope, Don Imas, Dick Clark, Larry King, Orsonwell, all dead. All dead. So one living. I didn't know Larry King did.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Oh, he's dead. Okay, good. I mean, not good, he's dead. I was right. You were right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he died in 2021. Okay, 2021.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Where do you think I am on the list? Just take a guess now. We did the top 10 I'm going to go 32 Okay Number 11 Don't know who he is Walter Winchell
Starting point is 00:47:18 I don't mean that His disrespect But it said radio news A commentary Must have been forever ago Edward R. Murrow At number 12 Yeah news
Starting point is 00:47:25 I mean he was CBS radio news And television Wolfman Jack at 13 I just know The pictures In the AM station Was he from El Paso?
Starting point is 00:47:35 He was He broadcasted out of Mexico And so The signal was so powerful that it would come into America. That's why he was so big. Why do I think El Paso then? Because it was probably across the border from El Paso. Was he Mexican? I don't know if he was Mexican, but he would go over there because it was cheaper and his signal was so strong. Now he's white. Oh, I typed in as Wolfman Jack Mexican. Mike beat me to it. No, Wolfman Jack was born in Brooklyn, New York.
Starting point is 00:48:03 The Mexican connection is that it became famous broadcasting from XCRF, a powerful radio station across the border right across the border in Ciudad Akuna Mexico Acuna, yeah Okay, we got Wolfman Jack Art Bell Steve Harvey's at 15 We have another alive person here
Starting point is 00:48:22 Here we go At 16, Ryan Seacrest All right, we're getting close to you And Seacrest for the American Top 40 countdown Yeah Delilah at 17 Dude, what a staple
Starting point is 00:48:35 I think Delilah has been on SNL Like them parroting Delilah That's how big she is Yeah. Elvis Durant at 18. Okay. New York for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Dude, I'm going to bump you up. I'm sorry. I said 32. Tom Joyner at 19. Do you know Tom Joyner? Do I know of him? Yes. Do I know him personally?
Starting point is 00:48:56 No. Donnie Simpson at 20 at 21 Bobby Bones. Wow. 21, dude. That's amazing. That's really, really cool. Maybe like the sixth alive person? Yeah, because I remember.
Starting point is 00:49:11 really haven't been that many. I was surprised. I was surprised I was even on the list because mostly I get left out of stuff. Dude, that makes me emotional. Oh, don't, don't cry. No, stop. I'm being serious. Like, that's crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I put you at 32 because there are so many, you know, radio legends out there. And the fact that you are number 21 out of everyone of all time, dude, that's quite the accomplishment. Pretty amazing. It's also just a random. Doesn't matter. Okay. Who's below you?
Starting point is 00:49:43 Dave Ramsey at 22. Oh, that's stupid. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. He should be above you. Rick D's at 23. Wow, Rick D's. Dr. Demento at 24.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Okay, I remember the name. The 80s? Yeah, probably 90s. I remember Dr. Demento. He would finish the show with like, Down Storming the Castle, and he'd do funny songs. I think he broke Weird Al.
Starting point is 00:50:06 That's possibly Dr. Demento story. I can just roll. roll through some of these, 25 Garrison Keller, which is the Prairie Home Companion on NPR. I think you would know his picture. Okay, probably. John Tesh, Jim Rome, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck,
Starting point is 00:50:21 Dr. Laura, Don McNeil, Fred Allen, Arthur Godfrey, Bing Crosby, Gene Autry, Charles Osgood, Lowell Thomas, and Red Barber. Dude, listen to that. That's amazing. It's a really good list. It's a really good list. I was excited to see me on the list.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I think they left off Charlemagne. Yes. Yeah, they did. I think he easily could have been where I am in that space right there. Charlemagne the god in New York. But yeah, pretty cool. That's really cool. Anyone else you think they left off?
Starting point is 00:50:51 It's kind of putting screws to me now. Let me think. Just to anyone that comes to mind. I would have said Steve Harvey. I would have said Elvis. If you would have asked me before, I would have said Seacrest. I would have said Charlemagne. I would have covered my bases with our company's big guys.
Starting point is 00:51:04 So smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Once I cover that. Yeah. I don't know. you could do people, and this could be my reading of all the Howard Stern books, but like Man Cow, I never listened to Man Cow in Chicago, but he was a Chicago show. This is around the same time as Howard.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, and like they, there's like Opie and Anthony in New York, which I never listened to, but I know they got in trouble for the sex in the church, and they were kind of stern enemies. Mark and Brian's a show in L.A., but I'm thinking of these localist, localish big shows, and I only know them because Howard Stern fought with them. What about Big Boy? Was he? Big boy's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Surprised you went on that list. Me too. Big boy's a great. I'm glad you said that. Big boy's a great one. Gotta get covered. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was a...
Starting point is 00:51:51 It's amazing, man. That's really, really cool. Yeah. Did you ever listen to Dr. Laura? Yep. My mom listened to Dr. Laura every single day. Yeah, it would be on at times on the same channel that Delilah was on. Yeah, was that afternoons?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Because I remember my mom picking me up. It was in the daytime, and she gave out advice. Yes. And she had red glasses. Oh, you remember her visually? Well, because I think she had a show. I think it's Sally Jesse. I knew.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Oh, you're thinking of Sally Jesse? Dude, as soon as I said it, I'm like, I am mixing two women. You know what? But Dr. Laura, let me see what she looks like. She might have had glasses, too. Tell me they were red. No, you're thinking of Sally Jessie for sure. Dr. Laura didn't have glasses?
Starting point is 00:52:33 No. Dr. Laura Schlesinger. No, no glasses. I can show you a picture over here. Wow, I've never seen her before my life. Now, if I show you a picture of Sally Jessie... I know exactly what she looks like, because that's who I thought Dr. Laura was. Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Dr. Laura, Sally Jessie. But, you know, like these days, you know, people can look up social media, blah, whatever they look like. A lot of these guys are on TV, Steve Hart, whatever, you're on TV. But back then, like, you really had to imagine what they look like. You really, really did. Well, even in my early radio days. unless you went to a website, which I'm talking about before then.
Starting point is 00:53:14 No, but even me, I experienced where people didn't know what I look like. Oh, I see what you're saying. So it wasn't that long ago that people had to go and pursue, go to a website, click on a profile of one of the people on the air, look at their page and go,
Starting point is 00:53:27 oh, that's what they look like. I remember going to my first radio station ever and being so shocked at what the DJs actually look like because their voices sounded really cool. Yes. And then you would see them and they wouldn't look as cool as their voices sounded. And I would be shocked by that. I just never wanted that to be what happened with me.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So I would always talk about how dorky I looked. Oh, good. So it would be the opposite. Yes. So when people met me, they would go, he's not that dorky. Oh, yeah. You're not that weird. That was your strategy?
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. Wow, that's smart. I remember the Mad Mexican came to our school. He was like the local. That's the thing. The Mad Mexican. Okay. And yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I picture him, you know, with a summer. umbrella and like all that and he was just this I think he was white actually no way stop it it's white scrubby beard cultural appropriation yeah so did you have a favorite show that you listened to growing up that you was like your show man the mad mexican was definitely a big part of my elementary years of just hearing i think it was b 104 i think was the station and that was their morning show That's kind of all I remember Later in life I remember listening to Love Line
Starting point is 00:54:40 Love Llein' Love Line At night Adam Crolla Dr. Drew Because I worked I worked news And so I was the cameraman And I was just roaming the streets You know in my news truck at night
Starting point is 00:54:49 And what else do I do? Listen to that I loved it I had two people that I listened to One Bob Robbins was on Kissin 96 which was a country station Now he was just on But he was a DJ
Starting point is 00:54:59 He would talk a little bit Not a show show Right So I listened to him a lot growing up but he wasn't someone that I knew his opinions on things because he just accompanied the music or a cowboy hat
Starting point is 00:55:13 later before Bob Robbins died Arkansas Keith would go on his fishing show with him because Bob Robbins was like an Arkansas staple and had a fishing show that ran locally that's awesome so I listened to him but the show that I really listened to and thought was crazy was this show on
Starting point is 00:55:29 Magic 105 which was a rock station a classic rock station and it was the outlaw Tommy Smith and Big Dave and they would at the time I thought it was the craziest radio ever
Starting point is 00:55:40 and they'd just be like talking about boobs and it was very much a southern Howard Stern ripoff but I didn't know Howard Stern so I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:55:50 I just thought these guys are crazy people would call in seeing it insane if they saw like a nice butt yesterday and where it was just
Starting point is 00:55:57 I thought it was insane I was 12 and I would listen to this like oh this is crazy so I would listen to that show I'd make a point to listen to that show
Starting point is 00:56:04 every morning I put it on what crazy thing they were talking about. Later on, I went to work. It was my second station ever, my first time working at the time, Clear Channel, but I'd worked in Hot Springs at KLAZ, which was its own private company.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I'd moved to Little Rock and started working for Clear Channel, which turned into IHart Radio. And I was working at a station called Q100, and it was the same company that had the outlaw Tommy Smith and Big Dave, and they were still on at the time. No way.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And I'm probably 21 or, 22. It was right before I moved to Austin and I never got to know them, but I saw Tommy Smith walk in the halls. And I thought I'm going to go tell him that I'm a fan. And he thought I was an intern and asked me to get him coffee. No. That was your introduction to Tommy. Wow. Did that make you mad or were you just kind of like, whatever? I don't know that it made me mad. I was a kid. And I don't think I was whatever. I think I was rooting for a better interaction. Sure, of course. Because I had listened. to him forever, but also I got him coffee. He asked for coffee.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. What are you going to do? And I never talked to him again. I never had the chance to talk to him again. I don't know if he's alive right now. Man. Because if he's alive, that'd be cool to hear his, you know, like, hey man. Oh, there's no, he doesn't remember that.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I was just like, I never told him. You never got to that point. What you were being fan. I tapped him on the shoulder to say, hey, I also work here. I'm on the air. I'm number 21 on the list of all time radio personalities. is Tommy the outlaw
Starting point is 00:57:40 Smith. Retired in 2021. Okay. Okay. Maybe he's hanging around. Let me ask. Do you see if he's alive? We came back to radio in 2024.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Oh. Okay. So probably he's alive. He just isn't on anywhere. But yeah, that's my experience. I had a similar one with Bob Cole when I moved to Austin. Right after Bob Cole was at KVec,
Starting point is 00:58:05 the big country station, and he was the big country guy, and he also thought I was an intern. Walk in the hallways. And Bob Cole was Mr. Austin. Yeah, very much so. Tommy, the Outlaw Smith, longtime Little Rock radio host,
Starting point is 00:58:18 appears to be alive. Oh, wow. Man, you should get a hold of him. I'm good. And tell him, just, you know what, I never got to tell you, man. I was a big fan of yours.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I just sent him a letter of my sheet of paper here where I'm number 21. 21. Yeah, so that was the crazy morning show that we would listen to. Mike, do you have a show? Yeah, Kid Craddock in the morning. Growing up in Dallas, that's all we listen to.
Starting point is 00:58:39 If I didn't listen to that show, I wouldn't be here now. That's what got me into listening to Morning Radio. Did you ever meet Kid Craddick? A couple times. Yeah. He died. He died of like a brain aneurysm. He was on a 2011.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Like a golf course. I remember that. I remember we had just moved to Nashville when that happened. I think, too, that the show is still called the Kid Craddick in the morning show. Yeah, still doing it. Wow. No, it's still called that. Yeah, no, I know.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Even though he's not there. Yeah. Which is crazy. Which is what we're going to do when you die. No. I'll have Caitlin Sue. Get my name off of that. The Bobby Phone Show.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Get my name off of that. One final thing, bands that you'd like to see get back together. Oh, that's a good one. So I've got a list. The reason I bring it up is because I've really been rooting for Bear Naked Ladies to get Stephen their old lead singer back in. Are they broken out? Oh, they have been forever.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. And so he's, he was the vocalist. and Ed is the guy that would kind of do the raps and be funny. Ed does all the vocals now it has for a long time
Starting point is 00:59:42 but I watch Stevens like Instagram live sometime and he'll perform great singer but he was you know Brogan to the old apartment Yeah
Starting point is 00:59:52 This is where we used to live So because I watch both of them I'd love for them to get back together I think he got into some trouble They kicked him out of the band Seems like it's not good That'd be fun That'd be cool
Starting point is 01:00:05 for me as a bare-necked ladies fan. Who comes in mind for you? Now, is this because they just broke up? They got to be alive. Okay. We're not bringing anyone out of the dead. I guess the first thing that comes to my mind, I would probably be Journey.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I would like to see Journey get back together with... Did they for a minute? With Steve Perry? I don't think so. I think the new singer is kind of... Maybe they almost kicked out the new singer as well. They hired another one. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I think they did almost kick them out. Oh, no. Oh, common denominator. The band. The band. I think you wanted to stop touring, and they're like, we've got to keep touring. I've seen some stories about bands that have none of the original members that are still touring. Oh, Beach Boys? No, they have some.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Oh, I think it's... Like Mike Love? Just think it's Michael Love. That's fine, but this story is none of the original members. Wait, so who's the band? For example. Oh, okay. I want to know what love is.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Foreigner? I don't think foreigner has any original. members in it. No way. Their wives should sue. Yeah. Let me ask, how many bands are touring with no original? Now, another one was Leonard Skinner. Okay, I thought about
Starting point is 01:01:17 that because they're all cousins, right? And to be fair, the lead singer, I think his brother is now the lead singer. Yeah, something like that. But he wasn't originally in the band, and there are no surviving members of Leonard Skinner, they're also in the band. That one, I don't mind as much because tragedy was the reason that the band went down.
Starting point is 01:01:35 So Leonard Skinnerd I think foreigners won I saw a whole list of it But that's interesting Do you see any other ones? I see That's a bunch of old bands The platters, the drifters, coasters
Starting point is 01:01:50 Coasters, Four Tops So all those old Dew-Wop bands But so none of them are original members And they just go tour and sing those songs Yeah That seems like just a legal nightmare There's also And I forget who
Starting point is 01:02:03 But he's He lets himself is still in the band, but the whole band tours without him and he never goes on the road with them. I find out who that is, but to him, it's just the band goes out and makes money and he takes a piece of it. No way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And he doesn't act. It's kind of like how Brian Wilson did it, I guess. Well, Brian Wilson did stay back, but he was like in the studio while the rest of the guys went out. Making the records. Let me see, because I'm pretty sure foreigner is one of those as well. Oh, Kansas. Kansas is one of them, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So when we did our million-dollar show and Forer came and played, who was that dude? I don't know, but he sounded just like him. Just a rando. So this is who I'm talking about. So it says founding guitarist Mick Jones is still involved with the band, but he doesn't tour. That's Kansas? No, foreigner.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Original singer Lou Graham makes occasional guest appearances. But generally, when foreigners out playing concerts, there's no original members. No way. In Kansas, no original members, supposedly, allegedly. I wonder if the people buying tickets and going to that and know that. No, because I wouldn't have unless I saw a story about it. Right, right. So you go thinking like, wow, I'm watching Kansas.
Starting point is 01:03:08 No, you're not. The other ones I put together are, and Hooty has. Oh, yeah. That would have been one. And Oasis has. Oh, Oasis. But I guess I forgot about them because, yeah, they're back together. But they're only kind of back together because it's just the two brothers.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I don't think they brought back the other guys in the band. Who were the other guys in the band? No, but they were Oasis of band. They just had two brothers plus two other dudes, right? Yeah. And those guys, I don't know that they're back. And then even like when they started, the brothers. weren't even together that long, right?
Starting point is 01:03:36 They broke up pretty quick. The Black Crows. That's not the whole band. It's not. It's the two brothers. The two brothers. But they're back. And to be fair, that was only one member.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I saw a picture of an album cover from them, and there were like five guys in the Black Crows. Oh, really? At the very beginning. Yeah. Well, counting crows. Let's go counting crows. Yeah, but most of those guys are still there.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It's more than one or two. Just a couple. Raging Against the Machine would be a good one. Oh, that's really, I'd love to see them get back together. Dwight strives would be fun. That'd be cool, too. R. Oh, I didn't know they were broken up.
Starting point is 01:04:06 They're not playing shows that I've seen. So if they just go on a break, that kind of getting them back together? I don't know. But play the hits. I saw an RIM show once and there were no hits. What did they play on? All new music.
Starting point is 01:04:18 The whole new album in front to back. Outcast. Oh, yeah. That'd be awesome. Although even when Speakerbox Love Below came out, that was like two separate albums and they were just together, but they did two separate records.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So I don't even think they were together when they were together. Yeah. I think they were just creating music under the Outcast label because it was a double album. Because I like the way you move was Big Boy. And then shake it, shake, shake it. That's Andre. And they weren't on each of the songs for the most part.
Starting point is 01:04:50 I also have Insync. Yeah, that'd be kind of cool. They'd make a lot of money. They would. If the Backstreet Boys are doing Vegas in the sphere and making all that money, Insync would do 1.7 times that. I just feel bad for them because, you know, they're older dudes trying to make, do those moves and everything. So are Backstreet Boys, and that's fun and cool. They're the same age.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I know. I know. Do you feel bad for Backstreet Boys when I'm making all that money and everybody's dressed all in white in the spirit? No, I feel, I'm happy for them that they make a lot of money. I feel bad that they have to do the dances still. I bet they would love to just stand there and sing and not dance. Yeah, but you have to dance. You have to do.
Starting point is 01:05:31 All right, that's it. Thank you, everybody. We did a science experiment. We reunited bands. We talked about controversies in country music or a kind of the lack thereof this year. There weren't any real big ones. We talked about that everybody in Hollywood has genital herpes apparently. That's bizarre.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And then even things in Nashville that you may not know that kind of everybody here also knows and understands. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And you being part of that list? That's right. And me being part of that list. I only found that this morning. It popped up in my algorithm. That's really cool.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And it wasn't sent to me. I didn't know about it. It just popped up. And I thought, oh, here's a list. I've surely been left off of. Hey, Muse, can you make me a big poster of this list? Have it to me by Tuesday. See, I'm going to get a muse.
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