The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST #693 - Should Artists On Nostalgia Tours Play New Music? & RIP to an All-Time Great

Episode Date: October 26, 2026

Bobby and Eddie debate whether artists on nostalgia tours should play new music or stick to the hits that made them famous. From bands like Pearl Jam and The Chicks to Ben Folds Five. The question if it is about hearing the music we love or reliving the time in our lives when we first discovered it? Bobby shares a fun story about Ben Folds playing his music requests and the guys discuss which current artists will still be selling out shows 20 years from now. They also remember the artists whose deaths hit them hardest, including Tom Petty, Jimmy Buffett and John Anderson. Why does listening to an artist's music after they die feel different?  Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. I never write a lyric ever. So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the I Heart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, welcome to another episode. We're going to talk about these nostalgia tours that are happening. We're also going to talk about John Anderson passing away. I recently had Billy Corrigan from Smashing Pumpkins in studio, and that interview will

air in a couple weeks. But it was really cool for me because I was a Smashing Pumpkins fan growing up. And just to hear him talk about how they're blowing up again. So the interview comes up, but we're going to spend time first talking about all these tours that are going out. So, My Chemical Romance, they're doing their 20th anniversary tour. Wow, 20 years. I missed them by a little bit.

I did too. I was a little old for My Chemical Romance. When their big song, The Black Parade came on, we worked at a music video place where I used to see all the music videos before we'd air them. And I remember that one was pretty epic. Like, that was kind of a... By the way, I was in my 20s when this happened. I know that.

I wasn't 50, but I felt like my chemical romance was for sad 14 years. year olds when I was in my 20. Right, you're already older than that. I do like to welcome to the Black Parade song. Yeah. But that was never my thing. You continue. I just don't people think I was 80 when it came out. I'm with you. Like, all I remember was just kind of that theatrical music video that they had. Very like, it seemed like a movie at the time. And it was really cool and I liked that song, but I don't really know much about them. Mike, you were a fan, huh? Yeah, I was a sad 14 year old. I love them. I went to go see them. It was my chemical romance and alkaline trio. Nothing but sad kids. It was awesome. As a kid, or did you go to the recent tour?

I waited as a kid, probably in 2005. So they're doing a 20th anniversary show. Jimmy World is doing a 25th anniversary tour that celebrates the middle and sweetness, which is a really cool song. You know sweetness? I can't sing it. If you just say it.

If you listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody knows the middle. Yes. It just takes some time. So they are doing a tour. The Backstreet Boys are making a ton of money because of the sphere residency.

That's crazy. Like I think, I don't know that their money dried up, but I got to imagine that it was getting pretty dry because boy bands were super cool, then they were the antithesis of cool,

and then whenever nostalgia hits, it doesn't matter. There's no such thing as cool. It just does it remind you of a time when you were happier? It takes you back to that time. And so they have made so much money on that sphere residency.

So something about the sphere, I was watching an interview with, I think it was, yeah, a member of Pearl Jam, and he was asked, will they do a sphere residency, Pearl Jam? And he said, probably not because it costs so much to play shows at the sphere. So if you can do four, I think the number's four or five shows, it pays for itself, and then anything after that is where you really make your money. So John Mayer launched when he announced his sphere shows, I think he announced three or four shows. and then they judge based on the sales of those

if they're going to do more. So you make a lot of money if you can do five to 12 or 20 or whatever you can do. If you think you can only do three or four, if you can only do one, don't do this year. Yeah, you're going to lose money.

Yeah. If you can do more than whatever that number is, that fixed number, you can then make your money back, their money back, and then start to profit. Yeah. So maybe Pearl Jam doesn't think

they'll sell more than four shows. Maybe not. It is expensive to do a few shows. shows. We were talking to Zach Brown about that too. And he's like, yeah, it's very expensive, but you have to do more shows. Because once you're already in, you're loaded in, you have to do all your own graphics. Yeah, but once that's done, you got to break even to what you're saying is four shows and then the rest is taking home. What I hear is Pearl Jam. They're not confident. Yeah, they're not confident. Well, what he said was that they're just very cheap.

You know, not so much confidence. Just like we're a cheap band. We want low expense. It just doesn't seem like that's their fit. The chicks taking the long way 20th anniversary tour. That's awesome. The album in full. What's the taking the long way album though? Is that the one where they were like, we're not ready to make nice? Oh, possibly.

Because it doesn't sound familiar. The ones that I know, obviously, are like. White open spaces. Yeah. So yeah, not ready to make nice. Okay. The long way around. Lubbick or leave it. That's a funny title. Let me tell you though, man, when the chicks come on and

my wife is in the room, she lights up. Like, she starts like, oh my gosh, I haven't heard this long and so long. It's, you know, and that's, to me, that's so worth it. Like wide open spaces, fly. Yeah. Those were home. Those are the three, I think I know.

Taking the long way had to be after that. Is that what I said? They're taking the long way. Yeah. So they're, but I don't want to go if they're playing a whole album. I don't know. Yeah, they can't do that.

We're going to play an entire album from our fourth most popular album. That's not nostalgic. Next up is Everclear. The Lucky 7 tour is running this fall. So how does he, is his voice? He's, you know, he's sick too. I know, that's kind of what I'm saying that. Like, his voice is, it's rough, it's scratchy, you know, because he is sick.

Does he have, what is he have? What were you going to guess he has? Lime. Oh, that's interesting. He has multiple sclerosis. Multiple sclerosis, okay. Yeah. Because you bought me a cameo of his.

which was so awesome. He's like, hey, hey, Eddie. And when you buy a cameo, usually the artist does something fun or gives you like a tidbit about their day. And his thing was like, hey, Eddie, hey, we're on the road all summer, man, if you want to come out. It was basically a one-man commercial. He was promoting this tour you're talking about.

He's like, yeah, you should come out in the Lucky Seven tour. We'd love to have you out, man. I did see Ben Folds 5. They're playing for the first time together in around 15 years. They're doing a tour. Obviously, the Smashing Pumpkins are doing the tour. The nostalgia tours are fun. Ben Folds 5. Is that something you would be interested in going?

For sure. I've never seen a Ben Folds 5 concert. I've seen Ben Folds. So when we went together, that was just Ben Folds? It's Ben Folds. I didn't realize that. But I've never seen Ben Folds 5, which there are how many members of Ben Folds 5? Five. Three. Son of.

That's a trick question. Well, they were just being funny with the band name. I know. Have you ever met him? Yeah. My best Ben Fold story is I've been a massive Ben Folds fan forever. And we were living in Austin. and he had the song with Regina Spector

that they were trying to make Go Pop and it was that you don't know me you don't know me at all that song and so he was doing a little tour and he was coming by they knew I was a fan and they said if you just get a piano he'll play that song and play another song whatever you want and I was like this is cool

because a lot of times they won't play especially if it's in the morning and so we get a big piano we go out to the music room kind of the lobby that we turn into a kind of a stage and he shows up and he's a little sick, he's got a cold. And I'm like, oh man, if he has a cold,

I'm not even going to ask him to sing. And he's like, hey, do you have a tea? And so we got him a tea and he's drinking it. He says, I know that I had said I was going to play a couple of songs and I'm waiting for him to go, but I'm not going to. And he goes, instead of playing a couple full songs, what if you just called out songs and I just played a verse and a chorus of different songs? I was like, oh, this is even better.

Yeah, way better. Like I'm a massive fan, so I get to hear like nine or three. 10 songs. And so that's what he did. And I think he just did that because he didn't want to put too much consistent pressure doing like a big ballad, having to do the whole song. And so they, he did by himself on a piano. We started early.

And I was like Army and he goes, well, I thought about the Army. That's that. He starts doing that. That's so cool. We got all, it was really. He did a part of brick. Yeah. That's amazing.

White T-shirt, did you do that one? I don't think of a rec one. I love that one. a good one. I don't know what he did, but we did seven or eight. That's cool. Yeah. I thought you were going to say he was like, man, I'll play, but you sing. Oh, that'd be terrible. That'd be terrible. You take it, Bobby? My one experience is really, it is really good with Benful. That's cool. He did invite me to come out a few months ago to his place in North Carolina and do an interview. It just was not, we couldn't schedule it, right?

Dude, that would have been amazing. And it was a, yeah, it would have been. We just, we couldn't get the time right. He was out there on the road or I was. I was. was on the road. That's amazing. He's a top five artist for me. Ben Folds is. With all these tours that are happening, these nostalgia tours, do we miss the music or do we miss being young?

That's a really, really good question. Thank you. That's why I asked it. And I think, because I've thought about this, I've thought about this when I look at my playlists, you know, on my streaming and there's a lot of 90s. And I think that we miss being young. sure the music was great but the music was great because that was the time where we really didn't just life was easy man i think life was we had big dreams that we hadn't had crushed yet that's

good life wasn't easy well because we were awkward kids or young adults so i don't think life was easy but i think we hadn't been told yet what we couldn't do and that was in the real like formative exploratory years of our life. Yeah, you're right, because it was very, I can do anything I want. Like, the future is wide open. And I listen to those songs now, and it takes me back to those times. I think that's the purpose of nostalgia. Yeah.

And that's why people enjoy it so much because it was at a time whenever all the harsh realities of growing older didn't kick you right in the nuts. Yeah. That's so true. If you heard the music for the first time today, I think about this too. Would you actually like the music? And I think with Ben Folds, if I use him as an example, or John Mayer, who is still making current music. Like, I think I would still like that music. Today, if it came out, I don't know, because I was a massive grunge fan too. I don't know that I would like all that the same. Because that was a part of culture. I could go back to, I don't know that I would have loved Nirvana if they came out today the same way I did then. it was so different than and if it just existed today in a vacuum against everything else

I'd be like oh that's an interesting indie rock band sure but because of how they flipped what pop was and what rock was because it was all hair and glam and then Nirvana changed it to whatever the Seattle thing was and then people were faking that too a bit it was very cool to be part of music changing you know and it still changes today

like even you know it changes all the time but to be part of that for those bands, that's why I think we liked those bands. Well, we don't have the capacity now to be a part of that now because we have kids and jobs. And then it was a big part of our life where we would study and we'd like memorize lyrics

in a CD case because we actually had the time. We would go to school, maybe have a job, but what else do you have to worry about? Right. But like, see, like my son listens to someone named Tamed Impala. No. The naked Impala. Go ahead.

The Tamed Impala. Ampaula? Go ahead. And I listen to that. I'm like, dude, he sounds so different than anything else I've heard you listen to. I like it. You know? Try again.

The Impala that's tamed. No D on it. Oh, tame Impala. Yes. Looks like Jesus. And it's one dude. Yeah. Yeah.

And so I think I would be a tame Impala fan if he came out in 93 when we were growing up and being like, this is so different. it's cool and that's where my son is today like i love it so different i don't know that i would have when i was 14 or 15 liked the kind of folk he stuff that i like now though oh that's interesting because i don't think that's the case with me but that was but that too was different the folk the folk stuff was like yeah 60s folk and all that but like the way like say mumford and son i wouldn't have liked that as a kid but you experienced that change though i don't know what you're talking about like there wasn't music like that before mumford came out sure

there was in the in the in the in the mainstream you think mumford brought in folk now he changed it though it wasn't like bob dillon folk it wasn't like yeah but i think any sort of acoustic singer songwritery stuff counts as that like tame and paula type stuff but i think like the matt nathensens uh you could go through all those guys that just played a guitar and sounded sad yeah i think that's that and i started liking that but i was in my early 20s before that got me i wouldn't have liked that at 14 or 15 years old i needed to have that's true some sort of sad and or happiness or rage through something sonically

dynamic. And it wasn't that. It was not to my 20s that I was like, you know, I don't want to be dynamic anymore. Like I need sadder music. I'm going to listen to R.M. Everybody hurts 47 times in a row.

Yeah, Pearl Jam was weird for me too because like I was so mad all the time. And yeah, like against them and that corporation. And if they launch now, I don't think you would like them. I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't because I'm not mad at anything anymore. And if I,

I'm mad at something, there's a reason why I'm mad at it. I'm not just doing it because Eddie Vedder said so. I think though, if, I mean, if Raging It's Machine existed now for the first time, I think they would still hit as hard because of what they represented. Oh, yeah. Dude, they need to come back. They need to do a nostalgia tour. Except it wouldn't be about nostalgia to them. They would still, they would still do protest type music. Correct. And they do new stuff and they throw in the old stuff a little bit. But I think they're one of the bands from the early 2000s, 90s that would come back and people would go, oh, I still like it based on what they're about.

Good call, for sure. But most, yeah, I think I just liked where I was at the time. But having political, like, stances on, you know, whatever they had, I mean, whatever they protested against. What do you think they protested against? All kinds of things. Like what? I don't know.

War and so and so and, you know. Okay. Poverty and stuff. Yeah, you're still. You know, but if that's your thing, you can always have a thing. Like that is one thing that you can do for forever and ever.

You know, it's like Bob Dylan, like he was a protest guy. And then all of a sudden he's just like, I'm not a protest guy. But if he wanted to come back and be a protest guy, now's the time. I don't know that it would hit the same. Sure.

But because there's just so much more in raging and Spine was doing something so different. And people thought, and people now even, just people just like to work out to them without really knowing what they stood for. Yeah, because it's just so loud.

Well, but yeah, I mean, they were anti-corporate America, anti-racism, anti-capitalism after a certain point. I mean, that's the machine they're talking about. Even the band name is Rage Against the Machine. So, yeah, it'd be tough. Because Rage Against the Machine is a pretty liberal. Like, their concepts are pretty liberal. And you mostly see, like, tattooed weightlifter guys that aren't going,

I love Redge's the machine. You don't know what they're... You like their music sonically, but you don't really know what they're singing about. And that's okay too. Sure. When does a band earn the right to just play music

and not create new songs and stop having hits? Ooh. Brooks and Dunn are going through this right now where they just are like, we're just going to play the hits. We're not even putting out new music. We're just going to play the hits.

But now I think they're going to, coming out with some new music because it's been a few years. They even redid their hits. So explain this to me because I've never really understood it. Because yeah, I love the question because I feel like the Rolling Stones. I feel like you too. I feel like... They keep putting out music.

They could just... Like the Eagles. They could just tour and play the old songs. Why do bands have to feel like they have to put out a new album to tour it? So if you switch the name band out with artist, I think that answers your question. Not to tour it. The answer is not to tour it. Why do artists put out new albums so they could tour?

It's not to tour it. But I feel like they don't tour it. You're saying they put out an album to tour it. I think they have music they want to create. And then they go on tour with the music they wanted to create. They would have never gone on tour had they not created the music. I feel like they, a lot of, well, I mean, I don't know about every single because I feel like the Eagles don't. The reason I ask you the question is because artists still want to create art regardless.

of what age you are. Oh, artists. I thought you meant like a solo artist versus a band. Got it. Okay. And if you approach it like that, artists have to keep creating art, I think that's where there's the understanding of why do they keep making new music?

Like, we don't care, but they care because they are artists. And they're going to make it regardless. So they're going to make it. And also you have to think they're around yes people all the time. Like that's so good. It's so good. Yeah,

they're going to love it. You're back. And they've been celebrated at the highest level. They're artists. They've been celebrated at the highest level. So you want to feel that again. Like I create something new and awesome. I want to be current as well.

It rarely happens. So was Frankie Valley putting out new music or was he just coming out? You're asking me about something. I have no idea. Frankie Valley, no idea. Because he toured, right? I don't think he's doing it anymore.

I don't think he's putting out new music. Okay. But I don't, that's a bad one to ask me about. You don't have knowledge on Frankie Valley. None. I just feel like every single time a tour comes out, they're touring an album.

Right? That's kind of like the, procedure. Anyone. Garth isn't. Brooks and Dunn isn't. Like those legendary... Garth doesn't have a new album that he's just touring for fun? It's the 71st box set of the same records. Is it really?

No. Like the remastered version? But artists like you too and... Pearl Jam make new music? Yeah, new albums. And I'm not... It's their right to do it. And I'm not about them.

Like, it's crazy. But then you get to the concert and you don't want to hear a bunch of new music from a band that has 25 hits. But if they're putting on a new album, they're going to play at least five of those songs. We saw Counting Crows, and they played a few new songs. I know.

But only a few new songs out of like 22. That's okay. I know, but then you missed out on playing some of the songs that we really wanted to hear because you put in those two new songs that we didn't want to hear. That's the trade I'll make by you not doing the whole new album.

It's a give and take. Yeah, if you do a whole new album and you don't make us suffer through six or more songs, and you want to play three, yeah. that's okay spread them out but that's okay they also can tell when people I might as well go pee

you could see the crowd go pee yeah I think artists that are older and have a bunch of hits that don't keep making new music are one very aware but even when Garth was doing a new album he wasn't playing the songs he might play one song I saw him when he put out a new record

and he played one song one new song then I saw another time when he put out a new record he did none of those songs I remember that and he said you guys didn't come here to hear new music But I have new music. If you want to check it out, here's friends in low places.

That's cool. So to answer your question, I think if you have enough to do a full set, right, like enough hits to do a full set, no more new music. Just come and play all the hits. But what if you don't want a tour

unless you get to play your new art? Well, then you can do that. That's what I'm saying. I don't mind a couple. But your question was when can a band, right? Like when can a band tour without putting out new music? if they have enough to fill up a whole set

or they have some like great covers. That too. People like covers. People love covers. Artists think they're too cool for covers sometimes because, oh, I don't want to have to play covers because I'm a real artist, I did my own music.

If you get dumb like us, the fans, we love covers. We love it. It's a sing-along for us. Yes. And especially, do you like it when they make it their own? Just kind of sing it how I know it. Oh, okay, okay, okay, interesting.

If you make it your own, you play on different instruments and stuff, it's fine. It's, we can't sing it how we know it. Otherwise, it's not a cover then. Like John Mayer doing free falling. It's great. That's how we know it. It's how we know, but he does the fall in, fall in, fall in.

Okay, if you don't take slight liberties, that's okay, but all the melody is the same. Everything's the same. Yeah, yeah. Play it how we know it. I like it. Gosh, that's it, guys. Tour, go tour and do all covers.

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What current artist do you think will still be selling tickets in 20 years? Even if it's nostalgia type tickets. I have Ed Sheeran. I have Luke Combs. That's good. On the countryside. Obviously Taylor Swift. Oh, yeah, Taylor.

Wow, Taylor's going to be like Celine Dion. You know? It's like, it's just going to be crazy. Like, thinking of Taylor in 20 years. Yeah, she's going to still. probably still be doing it. I hope she's still doing it. And it's going to be like, oh, yeah, we're going to go see Taylor, but she's not going to be running around or anything. It will be weird when she's 60 doing teenage songs. Right. I wear shorts. That'll be weird. That'll be weird.

That's funny. But I think Taylor at 60 years old is still selling a lot of tickets. And a lot of it's going to be not based on the song she writes from now to then, but based on the massive library and the feelings that people had when they were younger, let's need to Taylor Swift. What do you think about Adele? Adele probably, right? If she could still sing? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Because those people that are known for the best singers ever, that's hard for them to just continue that, to sing at that quality. Singing different key, it's what I used to do. Bring it down. Just take it down. Don't have to go so high. Let's talk about John Anderson.

So John Anderson died this last week, and he had songs like, swinging and roll roe seminole which is great he's in the Country Music Hall of Fame he was at this year's Country Music Hall of Fame ceremony and Tim McGraw

posted a picture with him just a couple days prior that's crazy which was pretty crazy and I think you're the one that told me that he had almost total hearing loss. Yeah we were doing research on it just kind of didn't realize that but then it got it got it all back and then got it back amazing

you're the one that told me that he worked on the Randall Opry. He built it. Not by himself. He roofed it. He was like construction. Yeah. And then played it. Then played it. I don't, there, there can't be another person that's done that. I don't know that that's true, but that it's a really good story. You come back, Hank Williams Senior. It's interesting because after he died, I just had a night of listening to John Anderson. And when an artist dies, it makes us listen to their music again. I know. And I was thinking about why. I think there's a couple reasons. One, we're just reminded

of how many really great songs they had. And if there's no reason to be reminded of it, you're not reminded of it. And we're in a world where content and music is everywhere. And also, I think if they're alive, it still feels a bit like there's more time.

Like they never really died. Well, I think that even after they die, it felt like they never died. I didn't know them to begin with. And I'm not looking for new music from them. As far as our relationship goes with them, And I feel too like it's like a gift they left us, like that we're able to just enjoy their life forever and ever. And a gift we gave them by streaming their music and buying their CDs so they could have a life.

Yeah. Buy a nice house down in Florida on the beach. You're welcome. Yeah. We did that. Yeah. Tom Petty when he died, it really got me back into Tom Petty because I just moved on from that. And then now I listen to a lot of Tom Petty.

but to me he's not dead because I never knew him. Honestly, you just mentioned Tom Petty and I forgot that he was dead because we list knew a lot of Tom Petty. He just comes on a lot, you know, and you don't think about like, he's not someone that we saw on the daily, you know, so we know he's not here anymore, but that's crazy. I really had forgotten that he died. There was always a rumor growing up in the Hot Springs Village where I worked.

It's near where I lived that Tom Petty had a house on the water. I love those rooms. rumors. He was like, you know Tom Petty loves over there. And then when I got older, I wanted to get to the bottom of that. And you never found out. No, I did. Oh, you did? Yeah, he never had a house there. I don't think he'd ever been to Arkansas except to like stop by and tour. A bunch of liars. But somebody started a rumor Tom Petty had a house in the Hot Springs Village and it just spread for years and years and years. Dude, I love that. And Ronnie too, like Ronnie Dunn, one of the rumors growing up was that Ronnie Dunn was from Port Isabel, which is right outside of South

Hyder Island. And so every time we'd drive by there, like, that's so cool, man. He's from there. He's from there, he went to high school there. But I don't know if he did. I have no idea. Well, now you have the internet. I never even thought about looking it up because I trust the people that told me. I can tell you, if they're like the people that told me, they're liars. I think with John Anderson too, it's one of those where an artist's, one of his biggest songs or one of their biggest songs kind of gives you the wrong idea if that's the only song you know. Because if you only know John Anderson from his, the first version of him, which was the 80s. Yeah. Like swinging was his biggest song. And it was kind of a funny song. And it was kind of a funny

song. And so I think you would get the wrong idea about him if that's what you knew. It wasn't until the 90s when he came back like on a second effort that he had a couple other bangers. And it's not until you listen to the music that you can tell that it's from two different decades. Oh yeah. Like the production. The production sounds so 80s and swinging, you know, all of it. And then you get to the 90s. They're like, oh, wow, like it does sound like everything else that was happening at that time. Like straight tequila night, Seminole wind, both of the those were 90s songs. Yeah.

Like his second run at it. Swinging was from the 80s. What do you know about his singing style? Like, was that intentional? Because he's so known for, yeah, no, son, Johnny Johnson. No one sang like that.

And so to me, John Anderson's very unique, unique style was that style of singing. I feel like would John Anderson break through today with a voice like that? if that were the question. I think he had a better chance

of breaking through today than he did back then. Good, good answer. I was going to say yes for sure. Because now we're more accepting of things that sound different, interesting, even peculiar. If the person that's saying

it has something interesting to say, I think back then it was harder because you had three record labels looking for specific types of artists that sounded a specific way that matched what was selling. There wasn't the ability for you to find artists,

on the internet. So I think John Anderson, if he came today, would have a easier time at making it as back then, which tells you again how great he was as an artist back then, because it definitely was an odd sound. It was so unique. And that's why I liked Eddie Vedder. That's why I like Pearl Jam, because he sounded so different than everyone's singing. I mean, Willie Nelson. Will & Nelson, very different. Dwight Yoke him. Oh, yeah. Macy Gray. Like people you hear and they sing a few words and you're like, oh, I know exactly who that is. Tyler Childers. Yeah.

Probably a run out there. I mean, Johnny Cash is a big one too because, like, very unique. Not a lot of people saying like, like Johnny Cash. Some people say he wasn't even really singing. He was just singing. Barely singing. But, yeah, to that point, like, that's really, I don't think anyone can talk about John Anderson without doing.

It was interesting. It was so interesting that you knew who it was immediately, but it had to be so hard for him to make it because, you know there were some executives in the 80s smoking cigarettes inside who does that now nobody but they did it all the time and their big fat ties and some corporate office going well this guy's

but then someone's going well he's selling so many tickets like in Florida and Georgia let's give him a chance and then his music hits and it probably is not a coincidence that the song that hit in the 80s for him was like a funny song because I don't know that because there weren't a lot of allowances of people

that sounded different to make it that if it wasn't funny, like I don't think he's able to do a slow song, a real heartfelt song as one of his first songs, sounding that different. That would be a little odd. If you talk about songs like Swing, and if that's the only song that you heard from him,

you'd have an odd idea of what he was. You hear the other stuff, you get it. I think of Joe Diffy. I just did a special on Joe Diffy is why I think about him. Like Pickup Man, massive song, but if you just, here pickup man you think that's what all joe diffi is but then you you don't get a chance to hear ships that don't come in or any of though because joe diffi was really one of the best singers like

george jones type singers vinskill joe diffi like the pure vocalists but because he also had funny songs people don't always consider him as that unless you were able to actually see that you know probably up so the jukebox videos hilarious um but i think joe diffi is that i think even toby keith if all you here's Red Solo Cup. You think he's just all silly? Yeah, you don't know who's that man. You don't know, even courtesy of red, white, and blue.

I mean, you stick a boot in your... Is that the boot in the butt? Yeah, even that's a... But I think that happens with artists. Yeah, and he wasn't really all about quirk. I mean, should have been a Cowboys, not quirk. Yeah. That's a serious song.

But if all you know is Red Solo Cup, you probably have a different idea about Toby Keith than what he really was. Same with those other guys. I feel like that with Kenny, too, right? Kenny kind of dumps things down a little bit with his beach songs. But yet he can really sing a serious song and like make it hit. You should tell him his beach songs are dumb.

Well, it's silly. Like it's like it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, Jimmy Buffett. Name a silly Kenny Beach song. No shoes, no shirt, no problem. It's a good example. Silly. That's a fun one.

It's silly and fun the same thing because I don't feel like that's comedy. Like the Joe Diffy stuff was funny. I don't feel like no shoe, your opinion. I don't feel like that's funny. I feel like that's fun. Would you say that I'm kind of silly? Or fun? Fun.

Not silly? No. Okay. I feel like they can kind of be the same. Fun, silly. The Venn diagram covers both. Go ahead. There we go.

And I feel like with Kenny, like when he sings a serious song, you think, oh, this is so different. And you feel it. Well, that's why I like Emo Kenny. Emo Kenny. That's hard to do that. Jimmy Buffett couldn't be serious. Did he have serious songs? He'd had a few, but, you know, they weren't great

because you always just associated with him like, like, let's just party. That has to be annoying. And probably not so annoying you want to stop doing it and you regret your career, but there's probably days where you're like, I wish I could just sing something serious. Yeah, I saw a clip of him singing wildflowers.

You were just talking about Tom Petty. And it was weird. That song, you belong, mana wildflowers. his Hawaiian shirt and everything. I'm like, this is weird. When's the steel drum going to kick in?

When does the cheeseburger happen? Right. Is there a shark anywhere in here? But to him, he's a musician. He's an artist, right? And he loves those serious songs, but we're all just like, where's the fun, Jimmy? What, and it can be a celebrity or it can be a musician,

what celebrity's death hits you more than you would have expected? And I have a couple. And I think when Norm MacDonald died, that one hit me harder than I expected. One, nobody knew it was coming. I was a really big norm fan, but I didn't know how big of a norm fan I was

until you started looking at his whole body of work and you're only even examining it because he died. And that was a massive norm fan, and that one hit me hard. I didn't know. I never met him. And then I would think Tom Petty too, although I have a richer appreciation for Tom Petty because he died.

It's interesting. like I'm telling you it's weird to me because I forgot he was dead. You don't have to pick him. No, I know that. But I'm just going off of what you're saying. It's just weird to me because like I'll still listen to Tom Petty all the time and forget that he's no longer here. Is it his daughter? Sometimes his daughter comes out and.

No. Richard Petty? No, his daughter. Kyle. Kyle Petty? No. Anyway, mine would be, and we're just talking about as Jimmy Buffett. Like when Jimmy Buffett died, I didn't really.

realize that years and years of my, and I wouldn't say childhood, it was probably like 17, 17 years old and on. It was when I discovered Jimmy Buffett. And I was just a beach guy. I lived 45 minutes an hour away from the beach. So like it was just my soundtrack of like going to the beach always eating boiled shrimp, living that like parrot head life, which dude, I loved. I was a parrot head. I would go see Jimmy Buffett all the time.

When my wife was pregnant with my son, we took him to a Jimmy Buffett concert. And I worried because there was a lot of weed smoke in there. I'm like, is he going to get, you know, like, it's my son in the womb going to get this? But it was such a part of my life that when he died, it was one of those where I had played all the music for a long, long time and, like, showed my kids like, let me, I want to introduce you guys to Jimmy Buffett and, like, go through all the stages of Jimmy Buffett. And it was, I would say, it lasted about three, three weeks of like, dang, I really. didn't know him, but he was such a big part of my life. And the fact that no one knew he was sick. Yeah, and that makes me think too of,

and I wasn't, I mean, I wasn't not a fan of him, but I wasn't like someone I would consider a massive fan. But when Chadwick Bozeman died, that was a weird one because nobody knew he was sick. And people were just commenting on the internet forever about how he didn't look good. Like, come on, man, eat a burger. Wow.

And they kept a quiet that he was battling cancer. And he died. And that one to me was, I think I had the realization that, man, you never know what somebody's going through, like a celebrity, because they look different or they've lost a bunch of weight or gained a bunch of weight. Not that I'm in the comments anyway. But I think that really changed it for me on even having those thoughts. I know.

I mean, look at Will Smith's wife, you know. Jada? Jada in the slap. Chris didn't know what she was going through. made a joke about it got slap in the face i think that was more about what will was going through well that too but i mean you know no one knew why she didn't have hair and obviously we didn't know that she was going through that and chris didn't know that but yeah you're right man we don't know like and the thing about jimmy buffett too is that

there was a kind of there was kind of a sign because he started doing these video blogs every i'd say every day every two days and his daughter would film him and it would just be him and his guitar talking about every song he wrote. And it was definitely like when he died, got it. Now I know why he was doing that. So probably while he was doing it, oh, he's just chronicling his story. Yeah. Because he's not making new music. He's chronicling his old stuff. So it's always it. But really it was like his last. Yeah. And they were cool because his daughter would just be like, hey, dad, talk about this song. Ah, that one. Yeah. Ah, 1970. And it was like just talking to a grandpa like 70, I think it was 73.

Yeah, 73. And he just talked about it. And I loved watching him. I had no idea he was doing that because he wanted to leave all that out. I guess like when you know you're dying, you kind of want to just tell every story that you know. Right? You're like, I don't know. I would think.

It's like now that my dad, my dad passed, you know, like now that he's passed, it's like, oh, I should have asked him all these questions. You know, so kind of like maybe when you know you're dying, you're just like, I want people to know everything about me before I. not able to tell them. Maybe write it all down. I don't want to tip anybody off if I don't want them knowing. If I don't want them knowing, I don't think I'm going to tip them off. If I do want them knowing, I think I'll do that. So what would you, you think you would write it down and leave it somewhere?

Like, how would someone find it? I mean, I wouldn't write it on papyr. Papyrus, like you're doing with your hands there with like a quill pen. I think I'd probably just write it. Like I'm writing a book. Like I've written books. I think a lot of my stuff is out there in a couple of books, at least up to the last 15 years.

That's a lot out there. I just don't feel like I have enough to do another book. Hey, keep on living. It'll come out. I don't know that I want any more to come out. I'm good living. I'm just living. I want to stay the same.

Do you really think that you've told pretty much your whole story? Like everything? I don't know. I haven't read the books back. I don't know what I said. I have no idea what's in those books. Like I have a general idea. That's crazy.

But I don't know if you were to say, hey, is this story in your book? Like I know a few stories from my books because people will say something to me about them, but I don't know what I wrote in those books. Is that because you wrote a lot of stuff and then some didn't make it and some didn't make it? Or just because you don't really remember it?

That's probably a bit of it, but also it's been a long time and I just never wanted to revisit it. Like the first book that I wrote was really about my life up until 2012 or so. And I wrote it. some of that stuff was hard to write so maybe a bit of it too is me not wanting to even revisit it but then also I just don't remember it's both and sometimes I'm like I don't want I don't need to

tell the story again I think it's in one of my books and then I can go to AI and go hey is it in my book and it'll go no that's not in there and I'm like oh great I can still tell the story I still have that one yeah yeah thank you guys for watching hope you guys I don't know if you're watching this on the weekend or not we do it on a weekend but I don't know when you're watching. If you're watching it all or listening. Everybody on Netflix, thank you for watching. If you're listening on podcasts, we appreciate you guys hanging out with this as well.

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this would be out of all the movies on this list. If I could go and rewatch this movie in theaters, when it first came out, this would be on my list because it is terrifying still to watch this movie at home. But I can only imagine if you were in a dark theater with the big sound, this movie would hit so hard.

But in this movie, Ethan Hawk plays a true crime writer who was in a bit of a slump. He at one time wrote a bestseller. He is known for this book, but it's been about a decade since that first bestseller. So he is desperate for a hit. So he moves his family in order to work on his next book. And he moves into the house of a victim's home in order to dive into this case and really immerse himself in the story trying to figure out what happened to cause all these people to die. And what he does in his research is he goes through a bunch of old film footage that is essentially a bunch of scenes of people being tortured.

and it's what he sees when he watches this footage that is so disturbing. And the central figure in this film is so, well, I don't want to use the title of the movie, but that is how I would describe the figure in this that is so haunting. It is such a sinister figure that never have I just seen something on screen, that just the thought of that figure terrifies me. And there's one scene specifically, all I'll say is, it involves a lawnmower scene, that image has stuck with me. And something that happened as soon as I watched this movie for the first time is I had an eye appointment. And I remember going into that

eye appointment, whenever they put your eye up to where you have to see like a scene at the end of it. And I remember that the first time I watched this movie, the next day I had to go to an eye appointment. And they do that thing where you have to look at a scene and it's like very far away. And I remember it was like a hot air balloon in the middle of a road and they kind of move it and switch you through all the and you're supposed to look at it and tell them when it's the most in focus and I'm like okay it's getting a little bit more focused it's getting a little bit more focused it was still a little bit blurry but because I had just watched this movie I thought what if I just saw that figure inside of this eye exam right now because that's kind of what happens throughout the movie

is he is watching things, and then he sees something almost living inside this footage, and then it starts messing with everything around the house, and then it just totally gets crazier and crazier. But I thought that was a weird feeling for me to have of thinking that there was something about it be in my eye that was terrifying me, and I kind of started to freak myself out a little bit, like on the verge of, am I about to have a panic attack at the eye doctor? But that is how this movie makes you feel. And just from the movie's poster where you see this kid

kind of like combing their hand on a wall and like smearing blood all over this old dirty looking white wall and you see the image of this figure that's a really great silhouette that is also a great poster and it is a truly terrifying movie that that's all you really need to know going into it and I would highly encourage you this be one of those movies where you turn off all the life

and just allow yourself to have no distractions, fully focus on the story, and I think you will have an equally scary time watching this. Again, it came out back in 2012 Sinister, and it is available for you to watch on Hulu. It is my most disturbing pick for this list. The overall best Halloween movie category, I'm going to go with 1979s Halloween.

That is my favorite horror movie of all time. The bad thing about all the Halloween movies is there's not one place to watch them all. They're all on separate streaming services. I wish they were just all in one location because around this time is when I would love just to do a Halloween, just continuous watch because back in the day when we still had cable, which we kind of still have cable now,

it's just all spread out and more expensive. But when we had cable back in the day, AMC, every single Halloween season, they would just play all the Halloween movies continuously. They would start at one, go all the way to Halloween H2O. So at any time in October where you would click on AMC, it felt like there was always a Halloween movie playing, and especially on the days leading up to Halloween,

where I would try to watch as many of these movies as possible. But we don't really have that anymore, because this one in particular, the 1979 version, you can really only rent it. And it is a movie I think I have on DVD somewhere, but I wish all the Halloween movies were available for you just to watch. somewhere in one place. But I love this movie so much when I first watched it as a kid, the score, the iconic scenes, Lori Strode in the closet and Michael Myers breaking in with the

knife, so many iconic moments. And I don't really like to use that word as freely as some people do. This is truly an iconic horror movie. So to me, the overall best Halloween movie, that it's not Halloween, unless you watch Halloween. It's Halloween. The best family friendly friendly movie, in my opinion, is 1993's Hocus Pocus. This was growing up the Essential Halloween movie. If you didn't watch this movie as a kid growing up every Halloween season, it wasn't Halloween yet. It has the best characters.

It has the best story. It has a little bit of comedy. At this point, it feels very 90s. The two villains in the movie, the, well, I guess they're not the villains. But they're, they were villains in my opinion growing up because they were the bullies. The one dude had the ice. sketched into the back of his head with clippers. Those two dudes to me were the villains because they were jerks.

They were mean to everybody for no reason. I didn't even care so much about the Sanderson sisters doing all the awful things to all the kids and to the parents. To me, the biggest villains of hocus pocus were those two bullies because I thought, man, those bullies would have been so hard on me. So maybe that's just a little bit of personal feeling for me. but the fact that they made a hocus pocus two straight to Disney Plus, that was an abomination.

And I'm not really one to say that whenever a sequel is made, that it ruins the legacy of the first one. Because oftentimes I end up forgetting about the hocus pocus twos, the dumbers, the sequels to really great comedies or really great iconic films. I've learned to move past that. And maybe at one point I was like, don't make a sequel because it ruins the legacy of the first one. I just burn those movies out of my mind. I get they're trying to make some money.

They're banking on nostalgia, but this was a movie that does not need any sequel. It is a perfect Halloween movie. There's not one thing I would change about it. And it also, to me, has that feeling of Halloween night. And probably because they actually go trick-or-treating in the movie. For my memory, it does take place entirely in one day, aside from the flashback scenes at the very beginning,

whenever the Sanderson sisters, that spell first is cast. I love movies that take place in one day. And I think if you're making a Halloween movie, to have it take place on Halloween, that is what you have to do. And I also think there might be like a curse word in there. Back then, in 93, you could get away with that. But I still think to today's standards,

it is an acceptable family-friendly movie. So in this category, I have Hocus Pocus and you can watch that on Disney Plus. In the category of the newest horror movie, my pick has to go to Hocum. Came out earlier this year in 2026 and actually probably in the last week or two was just added to Hulu.

If you've listened to this podcast this entire year, I have rated this movie, the scariest horror movie of the year. Scarier than obsession, scarier than anything else that has come out so far this year. And Hocom stars Adam Skockeye. you would know from Parks and Rec or maybe Severance on Apple TV. He is a novelist who goes out to a remote location in Ireland

in order to scatter his parents' ashes. And while he is there, he gets consumed with the tale of a witch that haunts the honeymoon suite at this particular inn that he is staying at. And as a writer, he is trying to find his next story. So he starts investigating, what is going on in this suite and soon he starts seeing a bunch of scary disturbing visions. It is a little bit of a slow burn at times. It is not a movie that relies heavily on jump scares.

And I do feel like it is one you have to allow yourself to be consumed by because there's nothing over the top that is going to jump out at you. There's not a lot of blood and guts. But it's the characters you uncover, the very to me bold horror images is that stick in your brain that are unlike anything you have ever seen. This movie feels very novel to me. It comes from an Irish director named Damian McCarthy,

who has a really unique vision when it comes to horror. I think the fact that he's not American, he doesn't tell horror stories in a traditional way that feel to me, like, get repetitive at times. This story feels very fresh. The entire look of this movie feels different, and there's something off from the very beginning, the opening scene of this movie that makes you feel like, okay, I am ready to take this journey.

So out of all of his movies, I would say start with Hocom now that it's available on Hulu, but follow it up with Oddity. So there are two right here that I'm going to recommend from the same director because there are some elements of oddity that I feel are even scarier than Hocom, but fitting in this category of the newest horror movie that I think is great, that's going to become an essential scary movie around October for me. I am going with Hocum. If I would have been doing this episode last year,

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