The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Bear Grylls on Running Wild with Celebrities, Climbing Mt. Everest & the Unexpected TV Friendships
Episode Date: May 26, 2026Bear Grylls joins Bobby to talk about a life built around adventure, survival, and pushing himself into the unknown. He shares stories from taking celebrities like Uma Thurman and Machine Gun Kelly in...to the wild on Running Wild, what it’s like watching them face real fear, and the unexpected friendships that have come from those experiences. Bear also looks back on climbing Mt. Everest, the mindset it takes to survive extreme conditions, and why adventure continues to shape the way he lives his life. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I don't always promise to return people without any scratches or scrapes or bruises,
but we generally try and keep people alive, yeah.
Okay, today we're going to talk with Bear Grills.
one of the most recognizable faces in adventure and survival,
a former 21 special air service soldier.
He's climbed Mount Everest.
He was 23 years old when he did that.
Military author, Man versus Wild,
running wild with Bear Grills,
which I've done that show twice.
I do know Bear a little bit.
Many, many, five, six, seven years ago.
I got a call that says,
do you want to do running wild with Bear Grills?
and I thought that was crazy
and I thought I wonder what mountain nearby will go climb
so I said yes to it
and they say you're going to Norway
and so I got on a flight
I flew to Norway
we were so delayed
that as soon as I landed
there was no meeting
I took off right into the Norway
wilderness I believe it was like the fjords of Norway
and so there was no introduction
I never even met Bear until I
started the first episode that I did with him. And while I was on my route, he joined,
I came in on a helicopter as he often does, and we started. And what I remember about being in
Norway is it was really cold. We had to go through a lot of water. We did find a rotted sheep,
because the food you find out there is the food you eat. And so there was a sheep in the water.
and the top of it that was exposed to the air was rotted.
But the bottom of it, underneath the water, was preserved.
So we drug it out of the water.
And you can see all this in the episode.
We drug it out of the water.
We cut all the rotted meat off of it.
Now, I think what surprised bear was, when you look at me, you see, I don't know what you see,
but kind of like Weezer, Buddy Holly, nerdy guy.
But I grew up in Arkansas and I hunted a lot, so I know how to skin an animal.
and so he was okay this I was like I got this
so I'm down chopping that's what we had for dinner
and in the episode we eat it
it didn't taste very good it wasn't bad but
we don't walk around with like salt and pepper in our pockets
nor did we know we were going to find this rotted sheep
and I had friends say when you saw the rotted sheep
did they tell you was there or did you see it
I said guys nothing was planted I spotted the sheep
and I can't see anything and so
we got the sheep, went off some cliffs,
we actually stay out in the wilderness.
We talk about this coming up in a second.
There is no hotel.
There's nothing except we stayed right in the woods where we were.
It was the first time I was ever in a helicopter at the very end of my episode,
whenever we're leaving.
Spoiler alert, I lived.
When we're leaving, we're getting on this helicopter,
and I think I'm getting in and I'm not getting in.
They clip me to the side of the helicopter where I'm just standing on
that kind of rail and the helicopter goes up and whips around a mountain is crazy. So, finish that
show is pretty nuts. I ended up getting a show on Nat Geo because I was very fortunate at the
ratings of my episode were really good. So I thought, man, that was fun. Bear was awesome. I don't
think I'm going to do that again. And at the time, about a year and a half or so later,
I was engaged and they called back and they said, hey, we want you to come back on the show.
Well, when I was on the show the first time, I had pretty much given on my life story.
So I really didn't have anything else to say because that show is you do some crazy stuff,
but you also share your life and you have this moment.
And I had my moment.
I shared my life.
I almost died.
Like all that stuff happened.
And I said, I really don't have anything that I feel like I'd feel comfortable doing the second time because I know so much is about the personal journey.
I think I shared it all.
And they said, would you bring your fiance?
I was like, there is no chance.
the last thing she wants to do is be on television.
And what had happened was I got very fortunate
because I was a little timid about even asking my now wife,
my fiance at the time to do the show
because I knew she had no interest in being on television in any way.
I was very fortunate that she was in therapy that day with a therapist.
And there are some negatives for her being in a relationship with me
in that she's not a very public person,
but sometimes she has to deal with scrutiny anyway.
Like she doesn't put herself out there,
yet people still will say mean things to her,
we'll go through her DM, you know, we'll do.
And so in her therapist session, as I remember the story,
her therapist was like, hey, you're dealing with a lot of the stuff
that's not good from this relationship.
Like if something comes up that would be fun or different,
you should also benefit from some of the good things in this relationship.
This had happened right before I asked her,
and I said, do you want to go?
And I was kind of like,
I know you're not going to want to do this,
but do you want to go do Running Wild with Bear Grills?
They've ever, at the time,
only had one other person that had done two episodes,
and it was Channing Tatum.
I said, they've asked me to come back for a second time.
And so that's an honor for me,
but I don't have a story,
but if we do it together,
it's kind of a different story.
And she was in a good place,
and she said, yeah, I'll do it.
I was like, what?
And so immediately I called him,
and said, we're in,
because then once we agreed,
I know she couldn't back out.
And so we go up into these mountains
in Northern California, and it was the coldest I've ever been in my whole life.
And I've been in some really cold places.
And we're going off cliffs.
And if you Google it, you can find these episodes.
We're going off the side of clips.
But it was a whole different thing because I kind of knew what to expect.
And the expectation is that you're constantly going to be challenged and you're going to
be afraid the whole time.
You just don't know what you're about to run into.
But because I knew that, it did give me a half a leg up.
So the first time, I was scared to death in Norway.
The second time, with her, mostly I was just trying to help her get through it because she was experiencing it, how I was experiencing it the first time.
And so a lot of growth in the first episode, but like that second one with her and myself, like it was really crazily amazing in a different way.
I remember when we were starting the second episode, we didn't see bear.
and they start us off and they put us in this little cart with a map on top of a mountain
and we have to follow this map to get down to this X.
We haven't seen Bear yet.
And as soon as we get down, there's this paraglider.
You never know how Bear is going to enter.
A paraglider just comes flying in and it's Bear on one of those contraptions.
He lands and he's like, all right.
There's a helicopter coming over the top and they drop one of those ladders.
And so the helicopter right above with the ladder on.
And he's like, okay, we get the hell.
And I'm thinking we're going to climb the ladder to get in the helicopter.
Again, I guess I'm dumb because all he did was clip us to the bottom of the ladder and the helicopter takes off.
And that's what we did.
We were flying to the top of a mountain hanging on the ladder of the helicopter, all three of us.
Like a really cool picture that I have in our house is this helicopter, this massive mountain in California,
and the ladder down, and bear is clipped to one rung.
Caitlin is clipped to the rung underneath, and I'm clipped to the rung on the very bottom.
And it is a wild picture.
But we had no idea that was going to happen.
And one of the reasons they don't tell you what's going to happen is you won't do it.
They don't tell you you're about to go off a cliff, about to be in a helicopter holding on for your dear life.
They don't tell you.
One of mine had to go through this river with a, you know, raging river with a stick.
They don't tell you this stuff because you'll start to think about it and get freaked out.
but man both
both experiences were amazing
and we talk about this a little bit coming up
both evenings
just hanging out with bear were really special
because you're five six hours at night
out in the wilderness
you're just at a fire and you're just talking
and so anytime you do that obviously
if you like the person you grow a lot closer
so it's really
I was really fortunate to have both of those experiences
with somebody that I really enjoyed
and someone who my wife also loves as well.
And so that show has had all these iterations.
It's now back on Fox.
He's taken some of the biggest stars on the whole planet
into the wild for 48 hours of real world challenge.
And again, the conversations are really what it's all about
because, man, once you are scared, you're vulnerable.
You get so vulnerable because you depend on bear for everything.
And so it was a really fun experience for me twice.
Again, though, it was the coldest.
That, with my fiancé at the time, my wife now, it was the coldest.
And we were like in a little cave type thing.
And they gave us two sleeping bags, but one of the sleeping bags ripped.
And again, there's no store.
And I remember it being negative four degrees.
And that's what we were.
And so we were like body heat over.
It was the coldest I've ever been in my whole life.
There was not a fancy hotel.
Man, think of back.
My nipples were fruit.
freezing. So, we're going to talk to Bear now. There's a new season on Fox. Bear Girls is running wild.
He's currently on the Never Give Up live world tour. Here he is a guy that I have such an affinity for, the great Bear Girls.
Let us welcome. I would clap, but I'm by myself. Bear Girls is here. Bear, good to see you, old friend.
Hey, nice to see you. This doesn't feel like work. That's nice. I've had a, a,
busy few days of Presta, but speaking to you, old friends, good times.
I would say a bit of the same.
This has been a blender of a week as well, and I thought, man, I have not talked to
Bear in such a long time.
I'm actually looking forward to this one.
So it's really good to see your face.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
How are things?
How are you guys?
So much that happened.
I always had a baby.
I know.
I know.
Remind me of your little one's name.
Well, her name is Billy.
And so, you know, it's pretty crazy.
crazy and Caitlin says hello and for those who don't know Caitlin and I we did Bear show together and
we loved and she loved Bear so much we invited you to the wedding but you obviously have it
all around the world schedule but that's that's the affinity we have for you Bear so you are so
kind and Shar and me was so touched you asked us and that was um it was such a special journey to
get to do together and I'm just so happy you've gone for strength to strength in not just
you know, work, but also in your
wonderful family and having Billy, that's great.
No nicer couple on the planet, you guys, you rock.
Yeah, we were just engaged at the time.
We were with you.
That feels like 10 years ago, but also yesterday at the same time.
Yeah, yeah.
I was talking to Rob Riggle,
and Rob and I are two of the few that have done
the show twice with you,
were in that very, very small club of the duos.
I didn't realize Rob was such a big dude.
Rob is a big dude.
Rob is great.
He's wonderful.
We did it.
We did.
Who else we've done twice?
Channing Tatum, we've done two running miles with.
But yeah, it's a small club.
But Rob is, he's a light, I would describe him as he's a light.
Colonel in the Marines as well.
So he has sort of good, good fun chatting about Marine days.
And he's always out for an adventure.
He has that beautiful ability to love.
He's offered himself always, and he takes himself very on seriously.
But he's great.
You know, he's a fighter, and what a wonderful man.
So you're back.
This time you're on Fox.
So what's the difference here?
What are we doing?
We're still out doing crazy stuff?
I saw Matthew McConaughey was the first episode.
Like, what's the theme here?
Yeah, well, season nine.
I mean, if somebody said we'd get to season nine,
we're just casting season 10 at the moment.
I mean, it's been such a privilege.
it really has. And it's, it's such a fun show, you know, for so many years I did a man versus
wild, but I was always on my own and, you know, small, small crew, but in terms of on camera
on my own and running wild, really rejuvenated so much in my life, because it's, it's such a
privilege to introduce regular people to the outdoors and people who've never done anything
like that before, and I love it. And it goes to strength to strength. Fox is a great home for it.
and yeah I mean I look at it I think we've got better guess you know this year than ever it's like it still stays top tier in that sense and I don't know a journalist said to me yesterday said how come you always get such good guess and I really think the answer to that is because the wild is a real star you know it's like that is the appeal people you know you or Matthew McConaughey or whoever it is you know it's not about the money or the fame you know people want the experience
that the outdoors can give.
And as you know, it lights people up,
and then it opens people up,
and you get to see these stars
that often you know from movies or TV
or whatever it is, in a way that's,
you know, totally unusual.
I mean, yours was different because your sort of brand
is so sort of based on just truly being yourself
and sharing your life.
And, you know, you do that so beautifully.
But I think if you're just a Hollywood star,
People are quite guarded and they don't do a lot of these sort of things.
But I think it's the experience that people want and that's what draws people to running wild.
And I never take that for granted.
It's a great privilege and very grateful.
Are there any times where you're with someone and you're told they are really famous?
But because you're gone so much, you really don't know of their work.
You just take the person's word that they're really famous?
It happens lots, actually.
I mean, also for many years, I did the show in China and in India.
So I would really be taking stars that I didn't know, but they would be huge.
You know, we'd take like Chinese movie stars with literally sort of the Chinese equivalent
of Instagram, you know, they'd have a billion followers.
You know, it was like unbelievable.
And yet I wouldn't have really have a clue who they were.
And it was a, actually for me, it was a real kind of insight of how we all treat people differently
with our filter once we know what they, you know, do as a job.
And, you know, I'm the same.
I can't help but being nervous when I, on Running Wild,
on our Fox Running Wild, when I meet, you know, big superstars,
I'm always nervous, you know, it's just like I'm human.
I get nervous.
But when you're doing it with sort of Chinese ones,
because I don't know them like that,
I was maybe less nervous, but it's so interesting seeing how they carry themselves
and how people react around them.
because I haven't got the filter.
I look at it and I go, hold on, this is crazy.
Like, note to self, never start acting in a way that says you're important.
Or be alert to the yes men that surround people when they're famous.
But, you know, it's been really fun and the Chinese ones are great.
The Indian ones are great.
But yeah, like I say, I love it.
I never take it for granted and a huge privilege.
What if you do, like a president or a prime minister or someone that has,
to have security. Have you had many of those?
Well, we did the President Obama one, but he was still, you know, sitting U.S. president.
So, and as you know, normally we always say to these stars, just trust us, trust me, come on your
own, leave the entourage behind. You're going to love it. Trust the process. We'll keep you
alive. Obviously, that wasn't going to kind of fly with, you know, a president who's still
in office as such. So, and I remember our team saying when they were,
scouting the route with the secret service a week before they said bear we've got like you know
70 80 secret service with us on the ground just scouting it you know and so it was an i owner
and i think on the day we had that sort of number as a close team around him we had helicopters
every five minutes in the air snipers in the mountains every every every every mile they even like
dropped like porter like a porter loo what do you call it port a potta potty yeah yeah every you know literally
every like a couple of miles along this glass here in Alaska.
And I remember him saying to me, he said,
what, what's that?
And I said, well, that's in case you need a peen.
He goes, what's wrong in the bushes?
And I said, exactly, that's what I've been saying.
We're using the bushes.
But so apart from the president, and we did Prime Minister Modi of India,
so he had his whole secret service as well.
And we actually did then Zelensky in Ukraine for a different type of show.
But obviously, you know, there's a whole bunch of security around that.
But apart from that,
And as you know, you come on your own, leave the entourage, trust the process.
I don't always promise to return people without any scratches or scrapes or bruises,
but we generally try and keep people alive, yeah.
Have you had like real fulfillment when finishing with someone because they did not believe in themselves,
even during the episode?
And it's weird to call it an episode because I've done it twice now, and it's a whole two days.
But on television, it's an hour.
but during that two days, they feel like they can't do it,
yet they still are able to achieve it.
And at the end, there's a real pride.
Has that happened with many celebrities?
Yeah, I love it, Bobby.
You ask such good questions.
It's so true.
It's the beating heart of what makes the show special
and some beating heart of why I've always loved the outdoors.
You know, we see total transformation of people every time.
You know, it doesn't matter who you are.
It's like the wild is going to beat you down a little bit
you're going to have to face some fears and you're going to have to work hard and dig deep
and you're going to be cold and you're going to be wet and hungry.
But at the end, there's always that light in their eye and like a super sense of impairment that,
again, you can't cheat your way there.
You can't buy yourself.
You buy your way there.
No drug or anything is going to give you.
It's different.
This is like in here, like quiet confidence and pride.
And to be honest, it's the main reason I do my job now.
I mean, I love the show and I love our team.
But really at the beating heart of what I love is just seeing people come alive when they go through that,
that's sort of experience.
And it's sort of, I don't know, it's so great seeing these sort of superstars that you only ever see on red carpet's looking amazing.
And actually, always when we pick them up at the start of running wild, they look like that,
super cool, shades on, looking slick.
and then by the end like like i say they're covered in mud shivering everything's ripped but you know the
smile is like and that light in the eye is just the magic and uh it's the reason i do my job
can you give me an example of one person that you were extremely proud of when it was over because
you felt real growth from within them as you were doing it yeah i think on this season like
you know even umma thurman was so great she was at the end of it she was literally hands a lot
going, this has been one of the best days of my life.
We're going to do this again.
I want to bring Maya Hawk, my daughter.
She'd love it.
Like, with or without the cameras, we've got to do more of this.
And I love that.
And even like Machine Gun Kelly, MGK, who's so, sort of quiet.
And he was sort of nervous beforehand and quite kind of in, you know.
And at the end, he was just had tears in his eyes.
You know, he said, it's just, I've got.
Norwegian, so much Norwegian heritage
going through my
blood and my family and I wanted
to come back to this area and
connect with the land and that
Viking spirit inside.
And it's so great that he can
do that. And it's
sort of real and it's deep and it's
I love that sort of connection.
It's why I always feel the friendships
we make on Running Wild are
wonderful and they're lasting and they're
different to, you know,
if you do a movie with someone or you go on a
that show, you know. It's like you and me have seen each other at some difficult moments where we're
both pretty scared. And yet you do it side by side together. And that's the power. What was crazy
to me was the first time that I did the show, I was by myself, and we went to Norway. You mentioned
Norway. And it was amazing. And what was cool was the adventure was really great and eye-opening for me,
and extremely difficult. But also the time that you and I got to spend together, because we stay out. People
think there's no hotel. There's no, there's no, you hop in a car, you stay out there. It's as real
as could possibly be. People still don't realize, you know, I still get guests coming on
the show and they go, shoot, it really is. Like, there is no craft services. Yes. We really
are sleeping in this game. We stayed out, but I really found like the fellowship of, you know,
we built a little fire, we sat around, we cooked, we talked, you know, we got ready for the next day.
Like I felt like that to me was as valuable as like the physical things that we were able to accomplish.
Yeah, I think that's so true.
And I hear that often.
And, you know, again, there's no shortcut there.
You know, if you just did that at the beginning, you sat around, you know, anyone can sit around a fire in their garden.
It's going to be different.
You've got to kind of go through a little bit first.
You've got to look each other in the whites of the eyes and need each other and hold on to each other as acrossing that river and laugh at each other and fail a lot and keep going.
And then you create bonds.
I mean, that says, you know, the magic of the outdoors.
It creates bonds like no others.
Why, on the bigger expeditions of mine over the years,
that those bonds become really deep.
You live in a tent for three months with someone on Everest.
You really know them heart and soul.
But I love the connection on running wild like that.
And often, you know, the stars and people like you,
they say that at that campsite,
even though the cameras kind of have gone
and the camera's team, they go back to base.
they get flown out and it just leaves you, me and we have a little mini camera we might use.
But I think it's one of the special parts because then you can sort of relax and just you talk about it so much.
And, you know, I mean, that would be a whole other show talking about some of the non-PC conversations.
But I like it because it's a real stuff.
You know, by that stage, you know each other and the gloves are off.
And everyone's going, oh, my God, I had a nightmare with this person.
but it's good fun.
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You talk about summiting Everest.
I was reading a story the other day.
I was looking at pictures when you get to the top.
I don't know if this was the case with you.
There's a line because there are people trying to do it.
When you got to the top of Everest, was there a line?
Well, no, we were there in 1938.
You know, so it was like nobody is such tiny numbers.
We're climbing it then.
And, you know, we had, no, we were the only two that were the first two that reached the top that year.
We had four climbers lose their lives on this first September.
that went up and then everyone else on the mountain who's sort of just behind them ended up coming
off and everyone was dealing with these these fatalities and the disasters and then we hung on
and the jet stream winds lifted and a few of us just went on and got lucky you know so in the
year we were those those years it was so different but you know i know those photos you're
talking about i've seen that in the press lots of the last few years of you know it is a bottleneck there
I kind of think sometimes it still gives a slightly kind of skewed view of it
because you might have 150 climbers or whatever on it
and they're there for however many weeks, you know, six, seven weeks
and at the end they're all, you know, there's only one, one ridge.
It's not like there are 100 ridges.
You can each have your own ridge.
You know, that gets to that mountain.
That's the nature of a mountain.
It gets smaller.
So you do sometimes see those photos, but I still think it's a big old dangerous mountain.
still kills a lot of people.
I mean, you know, it's killing one in six when I was there,
and it's probably now maybe one in 15 or something now.
But, you know, you can't take that amount of granted.
Forecasting gets better.
You know, gear gets better, but it's still a little while.
It's unpredictable, and people die still every year on that mountain.
Did you do an episode with Alex Honnold?
Am I?
Yeah, yeah, we did, yeah, a couple of seasons ago.
It was really fun.
We did it in near where we live in Switzerland.
and he was great
you know
it's the only guests I've ever had
where like you know
when we reach a rock face
it was like
here's the rope
you go
you lead our follow
and be gentle
but what a great guy
and such a wonderful heart
and a grey story
and yeah
although he was kind of very out of his comfort zone
at times as well
because I think you forget
with sort of experts like that
even in the outdoors you become a
real expert in big wall climbing.
But you know, like,
we skydived in at the beginning with him
and he was like super nervous,
absolutely sort of shaking in the back of the plane.
And I loved him all the more for that
because it's like, you're the bravest man I know, Alex.
I'm so happy to see that something is also get you nervous.
And it's a reminder of life that whoever you are,
even someone like him, like we all feel fear.
you know but the champions somehow find a way to keep facing it keep doing it and and find a way through it and i love
that was that a pre-production meeting of going we really got to elevate for this guy because it seems
like he has no fear a little bit but at the same time you know the wild kind of does my job for me you know
it's not all you don't have to take everyone to the edge you know it's like it's a journey you're
getting to know someone's story and but i always knew that i definitely we'd find a really good rock face
I'd seen from the air when we were scouting this route
and I kind of thought that would be really great to try and do
and it kind of looks on the edge of what I can do
and he'll scamper up this thing.
So I gave him the rope and I said,
you lead but be gentle.
You know, and he starts up.
And the first bit was a little bit overhanging.
So like the first 10 feet.
And then it sort of, you know,
flattened out a little bit.
So I couldn't actually see him after the first 10 feet.
And the rope just wasn't moving very far.
and after about five minutes
I kind of shouts it up
he must have been like 20, 30 feet up
and I said, are you all right?
Are you getting, is everything all right?
And I just hear him shout down.
He goes, yeah, this bit's a little tricky.
I'm not going to lie, this bit's tricky,
but hold on, give me a few minutes.
And I'm thinking, oh my God, I'm dead.
But he got to the top, he set that anchor,
you know, and I started to come up
and there were definitely a few times,
I was going, Alex, he's going to need a tight line
on this one, you know.
Can you...
What a great guy, yeah.
Are you able to get life insurance?
What's funny you asked that.
I was actually somebody...
Somebody came up in the airport today.
We literally just flown into the next place
where we were filming,
and somebody at the airport said,
I deal with life insurance for a big company.
It's my card.
How are you with your life insurance?
And Del Vise with,
we're going, to be honest,
it's a nightmare.
This is the most expensive things on our production.
And the problem is,
you become a victim of the show's, you know, profile any success, like really counts against us
because suddenly is like, hold on, I've seen that show. We're not insuring this. But we have got it.
I think it's, I think it's okay. I mean, I try not to, I don't know, I try not to think about
that stuff. I've got a good team to worry about the life insurance. I keep focus on the important
stuff, which is people like you. Your team is great and they make at least me, my wife, feel
extremely safe, but they move around really well, and they move around and terrain really well,
where I've worked on a bunch of television shows, most camera guys aren't able to move like that.
How do you find your cruise?
Well, first of all, they are the unsung hero in this whole journey.
They are incredible.
They've been with me from the beginning, which actually, as you know, in the world of TV,
is pretty rare.
You know, most of the time, camera crews and TV crews super transient, they change.
But we've had the same guys, basically, from day one.
It's one of the things I'm most proud about, those friendships.
We've done life together.
And it's like I said, it's one of the big motivations, actually, for me, still working.
I love those guys.
They do everything we do, just so the viewers are aware, they do everything we do.
But backwards, because they're filming it, like moving backwards, carrying the heavy cameras, heavy backpacks.
You know, one thing is the cameras have got lighter over the years.
I've actually got heavier, which I still can't quite get my head around.
But now, because the lenses are so good, they're.
huge. They actually have to put weights on the back to counteract the lenses. I mean, these guys are
incredible. And as you say, they move beautifully. And I think moving well in the mountains on
difficult terrain and awkward rock and slippery rock, you know, is a real art. And I really
notice it on Running Wild, you know, first straight off the back when the guest starts moving,
I can instantly tell, you know, I can tell very quickly if they've done much of this sort of
And it really reminds me of how great and highly skilled and trained our crew are.
And it's a great thing to see.
What I remember, especially the Norway episode, because people have, I think, an unfair idea that, again, people are throwing us clothes or food or a hotel.
But I remember landing in Norway and we start, we're going across this very slick, like, mountains.
We're in fjords.
But my boots got wet.
And so we're going through water.
And so my feet are wet and my socks.
And I'm thinking, well, any moment now,
someone's going to come in and toss me some new boots.
Like, we're going to stop.
We're going to go sit on a stump.
Any moment.
Any moment, I'm going to have some new.
And no, we rolled in wet boots and wet feet until the night,
and we literally put them by the fire.
People will ask me.
But you know what, it's so great, though.
It's so good because, like, you know,
when people get famous,
people start treating them differently
and it's like, you know, it's like, it's not a healthy
dynamic because as you know at home, nobody treats you like that.
It's like, and humans tend to sort of push
until somebody says stop.
And I see it often on the show like, you know,
I mean, you are so great, you're so grounded and normal,
you just have laughed and off we go.
But sometimes I kind of see them looking like
when their feet are instantly wet and something.
I kind of see them half kind of looking around as if are we going to.
And I love it every time, isn't it?
They never go, you know, we need, I need.
new blues. They always love it. They always like great.
But it's like there was always that, or often
that moment of like, really
we're in? Like, we're really
doing this. We're really crossing this river
and you're really tying the rope
off this cliff to this little
spindly root. And it's
like, yeah, but it's good. It's strong.
I've done this all my life, but we're good. And I will
often back it up with a second one, but
it never needs it. You know, I do it because
we're always safe. I put a second line on them. But it's like
the roots always hold or the, you know,
The little rock thread reviews on a tiny little bit of whatever works.
And that's a fun part of it again.
It's like you kind of wing it.
And I think the guests, again, love that dynamic at the end.
Because it's what makes them feel proud of themselves.
It's legit, you know.
What about your kids?
Did they inherit the, I want to do, you know,
adrenaline-type things from you?
Well, first of all, they're better, smart,
clever, better-looking, stronger, fitter.
you know, in every way.
And it's just true.
They're three boys.
They're wonderful.
Jesse, age 22 now.
He works with us every day.
He films all the behind the scenes for the shows and for all the digital stuff.
So for me, that's been just one of the great gifts in my life that I now, like, he's beside me all the time.
And to be honest, that gives me confidence and strength and happiness in my heart.
So that's magical.
Marmaduke's a little bit younger, 20, and then Huckleberry 17.
And, you know, they all love adventure in their own ways.
But at the same time, they're not kind of caricatures of my life.
You know, they're really not that they're, you know, I have taken them all skydiving and paragliding and the odd mountain and stuff.
But it's, but not masses.
They all like different things.
Huckleberry loves, loves his tennis and rugby.
That's what he's into.
And Marmageeatieu, the middle one is a little one.
a total one-off. He loves
he's a trained butcher and he's
joining the police and
you know he loves his traveling
and I don't know I think as a parent
you can only just encourage your kids
to find what they love and to be
try and be humble and kind on the journey
and be a never give uper
and the rest is detail I certainly wouldn't
encourage him to be
mini clothes of my stuff
because I say they're better, they're better, smarter
they're going to fight there, they're already
finding their own path and I'm super proud of
that. Does Huckleberry think that like Roger Federer is cool? I watched the episode you guys did
together. Is that cool to him? Yeah, super cool. And actually, you know, Huckles is really quite, really
quite shy, just a sweet, gentle heart. And so Roger's always going to be his guy. You know,
he's less into the machismo and the out there. He just, he loves Yannick Sinner, for example,
you know, who's, I don't know if you know him as the number one at the moment, it's such a humble guy as
well. But yeah, the Roger Federer was so fun to do. To be honest, he was a real hero of mine.
If I had to pick a running wild guest who were real icons for me over the years, apart from
of course, yourself, I would, you know, and Julia Roberts growing up with so much of her
sort of movies. But I would say in terms of hero, sort of Roger was, as a family, were such
tennis fans. So that was like super cool to be able to take him on one. Huggles was quite
young then he was probably like 10 but it wasn't wasted on him he was still like that's the coolest
one you've done if i remember correctly about that one you guys were going down an ice wall
with the federal one is that right like we're just climbing down like ice with with sticks
like do you do that ahead at time without him first uh today no um maybe i went down first
on that i mean all i remember is he is quite technical using crampons on ice on steep ice waterfalls
going up or down.
Can't quite remember what were you doing.
But like, like it takes some practice.
It takes some, you know, you put somebody on day one on that.
They're all over the place.
Really, because it's super awkward and your default balance is all wrong.
And I said this to Roger, I said, just take your time.
And I just remember, like, watching him doing it beside me, just thinking,
you are, wow, this guy's got the balance of a bird.
You know, he's literally like on his, on his front points,
super balanced.
So it's pretty cool to see.
We laughed a lot on that program.
I mean, we laughed a lot.
It was fun.
He's actually quite a scaredy cat.
It's quite fun.
So he was going bad.
Honestly, I'm like, I'm so bad with so much of this stuff.
I'm bad with heights.
And he couldn't like, we're trying to gut a fish and he couldn't
get a hardly prod this thing.
You know, and I think for me, running wilds where we can really laugh a lot.
I mean, we laugh, especially with Caitlin on that one.
We had such a laugh altogether.
And I love that dynamic because it makes it more and more for feel like just not work.
You know, sometimes they'll work.
Sometimes if it's really cold or hot and the guests maybe are sort of struggling,
you're going to really got to help them over some things.
You're into work guide mode.
But like a few sometimes that are just really fun.
I love that.
And I think Rogers and yours was like that.
And Channing's second time around, Rob is definitely like that.
I would say Coleman Domingo actually on this season was just a great.
light as well, good fun. So when they come, they're great. One final celebrity question. Who did
you work with? You knew of them. They're wildly famous, but then you ended up really liking
them as a person. I would say, you know, I'm always nervous saying I'm great friends with someone,
because sometimes I feel maybe I think I'm better friends with them that they might think they are
with me. So I'm not one of these people that kind of says all these A-list stars are great friends,
but I would say there have been a handful over the years.
I would say Bradley Cooper has become a friend.
He's come to stay with us a bunch of times on our little island up in Wales in the UK
with Lear, his daughter.
And we always sort of tease him that his time he comes to spend with us is his grounding time of the year.
You know, we've got to do his own washing.
There's no one there to look after him.
And it's a bit off-grid, and our house is pretty small.
But he's so fun.
he's the most normal, gentle, humble guy you'll meet.
And that's been great.
And so I would say him.
And then a few others, maybe some of the less famous ones.
I don't know.
You know, you and me, I like our connection.
And no, I just, I don't have, like, loads and loads of friends in my life.
I'd say, out of running wild, I've got sort of probably, you know, five or six that I keep in good touch with.
And another five that we'd always have each other's back, which is kind of like us.
And I really, I love that.
You only need a few in life, don't you?
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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever.
I didn't think I was going to live.
I was terrified.
There was no anything inside those eyes.
They turned black.
It scared the hell out of me.
That was your first murder case?
Yes, sir.
Fair to say this was the biggest case of your career?
Yes, sir.
Rape a murder for children.
Just as bad as it gets.
I would think so.
People wake up.
I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Creveit and DePippo.
Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse,
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Oh yeah, final question
Give me some dad advice
I'm brand new
Well first of all you're going to be
Amazing the fact that you're even asking and you care so much
You're going to you're going to be
You're going to be great
And I really kind of
I'm not one of these people who kind of
Things they have it all right
I've I've made many mistakes
I'm sure over the years
But at the end of it
I think I have really always known
It's the only wealth we ever have
can be measured in the quality of our relationships
with our spouse and our kids and our close friends.
You know, the rest is detail.
I've met so many people like you over the years,
you know, billionaires with broken relationships
and their kids hate them.
And, you know, you're not a rich guy.
That does not make you a rich guy.
And therefore guarded early
and the little things are the big things
and put them first.
You know, we all have busy lives at work
and many demands, left, right, center,
but prioritize them.
And you're just going to do one
beautiful, beautiful job. I'm excited to see
Billy grow up and
she's going into just the most
wonderful home with you too. I know,
you've both got great hearts and the
world's going to be better off and needs more parents
like you. So be encouraged.
The best advice,
love their mother. Love their mother.
As kids always
says, they always go, example,
example, example.
And kids don't listen to what we say.
They look at what we do.
Bear, amazing seeing you.
everybody, Bear Girls is running wild on Fox.
I can tell you firsthand, it's real.
I can also tell you Bear is even better in person than he is,
and you're quite lovely on television.
So, you know, I feel like with you,
I'm the guy who thinks you're my better friend than you actually do.
You know how you were talking about?
You feel that way.
I'm like, Bear's my best friend.
That's my best friend, Barry Girls.
I listen, I'm there as well,
and I love it when we text in the year of Bear's thing.
Oh, by the way, I forgot to say,
will you do me a favor?
I don't know if you've seen my book, Greatest Story Ever Told.
Yes.
You have a read of it.
I actually was thinking of you two the other, like a couple of weeks ago with this.
I just know this book will touch you.
And it's super quick, easy read.
But it's the best thing I've ever done.
I'd give up every Emmy, every, all of that, every, every, ever summit and everything
to have done this.
And I would say my work life has been the most profound thing I've ever done in the sense
that it is changing lives all day.
I've never experienced anything like this before my work life.
So I'd love to hear, I love you guys to read it,
and I'd love to hear how you feel about it.
Why is this different?
Because it's all of our stories.
It's all of our stories.
It helps people find home.
You know, it's like anything that helps bring people together
and give light and strength of their hearts, you know.
And religion is such a difficult word and thing for people.
And my experience of religion was always very kind of frosty
judgmental and difficult and irrelevant and not helpful for my life.
And it's been such a life journey to realize the heart of Christ is totally the opposite.
And there's a most freeing family-centered like strength for life, strength for the battles,
friendships, risk, sacrifice, courage, you know, all the things that we love.
But I never associated with the story of Christ.
And it's been a lifetime journey to get to the heart of it.
I wanted to write this book of basically saying,
of saying, look at the real story.
You know, because we all know stories about Jesus of like,
you know, in the nativity or the Good Samaritan.
And they never connected with me.
And then seen this whole thing together and I just told it like it is
without any of the religious stuff that for 2,000 years we've put into it,
to try to get to the heart of why was everybody who encountered this guy
changed and made better.
And why did the elite fear himself?
much and it's just such an interesting time to be speaking into this sort of thing at a time
a division when we need unity and peacemakers so it's touching people at every faith every
culture i get atheists and muslims and jewish people all sorts and they all write to me every
day just going out no idea that this is a real story so like i say best thing i've ever done
one of the hardest for the best thing why would you do this book then it's again it's a bit
different what what inspired you to start this because writing a book is not something you can
doing a day. No, because it's like
you've just learned in life, I'm not scared
any longer to follow my heart, and it was just
screaming in my heart. It was like, nobody's
ever done this. Nobody's ever written the story of Christ
as like a thriller, but theoretically
100% accurate. I've done this
partnership with the Chosen TV show
where we did a like a running wild
bespoke season. I took a lot of their characters.
Do you know the chosen? You heard of that?
I do, yeah, yeah. So I took a lot of, I took
like Jesus, Jonathan Ruev and all their people
on mini running wild journeys.
And it gave me great access to
theological teams and such a work with them and just all these things came together at the right time
and it was just like I couldn't sleep it was like bear clear the decks right this you know you're
going to do this and and it was so daunting so daunting but like now it's out then it went straight to
number one it's been in the top 10 for 20 weeks now it's been like I said the best thing I've ever done
I had no idea the effect it had and it's like if if the running wild and all the other TV shows
are giving me a platform for anything, this is what I feel it's for, because it's a bad adventure
at heart as well. It's how we live our lives, you know, and it's that adventure state of
mind. So, yeah, that's why. Great to see you, really. Seriously, I hope you stay safe,
and I hope the show does exactly what you want, and I'm super excited to hear the book is doing
precisely what you wanted. So always, and I'll tell Caitlin, she sends her best. I'll tell her you
send it back. Oh, please do, yeah. Give her a big, big hug and look.
Billy, so proud of you.
You keep shining bright.
Don't listen to the dream suitors.
Keep going, brother.
You are the best.
All right, Bear, see you, buddy.
Take care.
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It was the same thing with slow hands.
The old hands is not about anything else really, is it?
You know, or taste so good can be about food.
You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done.
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