The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST: Brett Young on Why He Quit Drinking + How Famous He Wants To Be + How He Met His Wife + How Depression from a Baseball Injury Led Him to Pursue Music + Why he Got Roasted singing The National Anthem + The Hardest Part of a New Album

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

On this episode of the BobbyCast, Bobby sits down with country star, Brett Young. Brett dove into his family being his main motivation behind his decision to quit drinking alcohol. Bobby asked Brett how famous he wants to be, and Brett talked about reaching a certain point to provide for his family is enough. Plus, Brett talked about meeting his wife, how an injury in baseball led to him being depressed and ultimately pursuing music. Brett then told the story about getting roasted singing the national anthem one time. Bobby also asked Brett what the hardest part is about putting out a new album without copying his past songs, and much more! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCast Watch this Episode on Youtube  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. Everybody knows it's poison, but you drink it because it's fun and you enjoy it or whatever, but I started really digging into how bad it was for you. It just wasn't serving, it wasn't good for me. And it made my wife nervous. I was getting older and still kind of getting after it. And it was an easy decision for family. Episode 519 with Brett Young. How many Brett Young songs can you sing, Mike? In case you didn't know.

I got mercy. I don't know the rest of that. Mercy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a bunch of hits. He is also massive. You know, because he sings a lot of emotion. filled ballads, I feel like he's too tall.

Too tall to sing I do. I feel like once you hit like over six, four, you can't sing emotion filled songs anymore. That should be a rule. And he, I haven't seen Brett in a while. And so usually how this works is,

we do this show at my house. But it's not in my house. We have a building on the property. And Mike will go, okay, the artist is here. So we let him in the gate. They come through the gate. They park.

At that point, I put my shoes on. I let everybody walk down because I don't like the awkward walk in while you're talking and you have to sit down together. So as soon as they sit down, I've got a time to where I can just walk into the door and be like, what's up everybody? So it also doesn't feel like I'm big leaking and making them wait for me. So I walk in and again, I haven't seen Brett in a while. I thought he was standing on something. He was so big.

Oh, dang. He's 6.6. Yeah, why are you standing on the chair, man? He's 6.6. He's a monster. Brett Young. Got a bunch of hits. He's got a new record. It's called 2.0.

and I haven't heard him speak, I've heard him, but like say stuff, like have opinions. I was pretty happy with his podcast because he actually had opinions on stuff. I think he just felt like, hey, I'm a singer and not somebody who needs to give my opinions all the time. I thought he was great.

Yeah, I did too. He's browner than I am. You said that. I did not say that. His back to the basics world tour and get tickets at brettyoungmusic.com. I think the things I had a wrong about him were one,

I didn't realize he only played one year at Ole Miss. It's an interesting story. With a bit of perspective from him being older now as well. And then he went back to like Fresno State or whatever to play baseball. The baseball stuff's always interesting to me. I didn't realize how tall he was.

That's two. And what else did I not realize about him? Maybe the whole playing bars for a long time, but not here in Nashville. And of all places to move, it's to Arizona. Yeah, that's true. And also a story about him and his wife. Like, he'll get into that.

I didn't really, again, because I haven't heard him, like, expand on stuff. I learned a lot about him. Anything from you? How much of a California guy he is? Like, he loves the ocean. Yeah. As you said, he's darker than you. Yeah.

Yes. Brett Young, episode 519.19. Again, give him a follow. Brett Young music. His album 2.0. It's brand new. They only did one song. which was, in case you didn't know,

and he has a different version of that with a different artist on the song. And again, Brett Youngmusic.com for tickets to the tour. Here he is, Brett Young. Brett, good to see you, buddy. You too, man. I'm seeing you in a while. You look really tan.

Hawaii and Australia right before this. Fun or work? Both. Australia was work and fun. First headlining tour over there, and then to beat the jet lag, stopped in Hawaii and flew my family out to meet me in Hawaii for a week.

To beat the jet lag. or to actually go to Hawaii? Yes. Actually go to Hawaii. Yeah, I mean, we normally tour there and we actually had that placeholder to play some shows there on the way home. And we've hit that market a lot. Hawaii?

Yeah, we play it every year. And it's rare for country acts to go over there, let alone be, this would have been our fourth year in a row. And the promoter was kind of like, is it risky that we're doing this every year? And we thought not, but he felt kind of like it. So we gave him that and I brought my family. Oh, you didn't do a show at all in Hawaii? Nope.

Just play. What was Australia? like for you have you been building a base over there you know what it was our first headlining tour and we had only been once to play that CMC rocks like in back in 18 or 19 um so we hadn't tested that market for me uh and it was insane like a really quick sell out on everything added a second date to sydney that sold out too um it was fun because it's like a it's kind of the the UK crowd the respectful listening like music people crowd but with a little bit of party to them because they're Aussie still you know what I mean did you get a little bit of that feeling like you had when

you first started in man i sure hope we sell tickets yeah for sure i mean the same way we felt the first time we decided to go over to the uk without the festival backing it um but they're just hungry for they don't get enough of it so they're they want it really bad and they're like they're asking what the set list is in case there's a song they might not know they're gonna go learn it they're they're pretty into it when you perform in a place like australia your body clock's got to be so different do you give yourself enough time when you get there to adjust and i won't even say jet lag but have friends that are ballplayers, and if they're East Coast and they're playing West Coast,

like even that's a shift to their body and they're feeling it. Does that affect you when you perform? Yeah, I've finally, like, because of the amount of times we've done the UK, I think I fine-tuned it. There's no adjusting. You're not there long enough. So for me, it's like sleep at night as much as you can,

but definitely block out at least an hour mid-afternoon to nap. Otherwise, you're going to crash on stage. So if I can, like, leave sound check and lay down for an hour, hour then I'm okay and if I do it that way I'm pretty much still on this schedule when I get home whereas if you fully adjust I've gone to the UK for three weeks and adjusted and then come home and you have to do it all over again so that afternoon nap since my kids aren't there with me it's pretty easy to just grab one real quick on the bus and then I'm fine if America exploded and you had to move to one of these places and live in one of the places that you've toured out of the country where would you go man I mean I could

tell you, like, based on UK and EU trips, what it would be, and I would have stood pretty firmly on it until this trip to Australia. We only got two days in Perth. So we only spent, like, two days in Western Australia. But Perth is like if you trapped

Southern California in, like, the 70s or 80s. I've only been to Sydney. And I have friends that are from, and they say that Perth, and it's like a whole other part of all, like a whole different country. It's nothing like Sydney. I mean, and I, I had only been to Brisbane before this trip. I feel like every pocket in Australia is different, kind of like here in the States.

But Perth was like, I mean, the last day we had lunch on like this little main drag with all the shops and all the restaurants. And there was like a car show driving by and everybody was in 75 degree weather tank tops eating lunch outside. And it just felt like I, you know, I grew up in Southern California. It kind of felt like being transported back to my childhood. So I think that would be making a run for it right now if I had to pick. Do you, sir? I did. I was really bad.

And so I stopped. Whenever you're doing Australia or Hawaii, these are water places. I'm not a beach guy. I grew up in Arkansas. No beaches. Have no use for the beach. So, eh, not for me. You seem like a beach.

You look like a beach guy. What do you do, water-wise? You just sit on the beach. I'm in the ocean. I love to, like, you know, salt, sand, like the whole thing is my vibe. I love being at the beach. I hadn't like what my friends called an irrational fear of sharks. I still feel like it's pretty rational.

They're out there. You hear about it all the time. Did somebody ever get bit when you were a kid? No, no. See, that's why they were like, they're not here. They're in different beaches. I'm like, well, they're in this ocean, you know. Well, you're not wrong.

They are in that ocean. Yeah, I don't want to be the one to prove you wrong. I'm just going to chill here. The girls in bikinis are on the beach anyways, you know? Convince me to like the beach, though. Like, what is there for me? I mean, I don't know how to convince anybody. My reason is because, like, that's my childhood.

Like, I grew up that way. I don't know how to convince somebody that didn't. I don't know how to tell people that think that the shore at the lake, is called the beach when it's definitely not the beach because I grew up at the real beach like if you didn't grow up there I don't know how to sell you on it if you're if it's not your thing I like being out in the sun there is a too hot for me there's a too cold for me that's why southern california was perfect 75 in the sun I like the way saltwater feels on my skin when it dries I think that's just because that was my childhood for me yeah not convinced he didn't do it

there's lots of girls and bikinis and and I'm married I'm married now that's over I'm saying that's why I didn't go there in the first place yeah how hard was it to move here this temperate. I don't like, I don't like weather. The weather here sucks. Yeah, I don't like weather at all. Well, that's how I can convince you. The beach where I grew up is 75 every day. So I would like the beach if there wasn't a beach. You just, that's how it is. That's how where I grew up. I was one mile inland from the beach. It was 75 and perfect.

I love going to California except for everything else, meaning that I get car sick. And you have to drive everywhere. And if I live there 51% of the time, my taxes would be. Can't do that. Abnor. It's so crazy. It's just hard to get around. Yeah. But the temperature, love it.

I mean, so there's that. Moving here was a big adjustment, but it was short, though. Like the first three months felt like there's no way I can do this. Then all of a sudden it just felt normal. Was it the 19 tornadoes in the first three months you were here? No, because I've been here like, what, 12 years now? I feel like tornadoes were kind of not a thing when I first got here. And now they feel like they're like 20X, what they were when I moved here.

I don't know what that is. And especially my wife's fear of them. Like, she's not wrong. That's like my thing with sharks. Like, there are tornadoes and they could kill you. But she feels like if there's a warning in like Kentucky that she needs to get in the bathtub right now. Like your shark irrational fear. She's not wrong.

She's not wrong. Yeah, because they do just kind of pop up. I grew up in Arkansas. We had tornadoes everywhere all the time. So to us, we're like, eh, it probably going to hit us. We're good. Yeah. Unless there's one that's touched out within like a mile.

Then we'll kind of lean toward the bathtub. We won't even get in yet. But she's from Oklahoma, and that's all they have was tornadoes. Yeah, I feel that's kind of how I am. She just, I think since we had babies, Mama mode kicked in pretty hardcore. And so, like, if there's, if there's any chance it might get there,

she's making up a bed in the downstairs closet with no windows. I mean, she's, she's on it. How did you guys meet? I was old, I was probably like OG sliding into DMs. What platform? Facebook. Yeah. I moved to Arizona to write songs,

but way before record dealer. anything. I knew a guy that had a publishing deal and I knew a guy that was going to let me crash with him and he said, LA's not happening for you. Just come try it. And I think they had just started like, just started geopolitopulating like Facebook knew where you were. So it would recommend people in your area. And it knew that a girl that I knew from Orange County was going to ASU. And so she popped up. And I hadn't seen her in my feet in like a year. But because it knew I was in Arizona, she popped up and her roommate was Taylor. And so I was like, I kind of dated that girl a little bit. And she kind of caught feelings and I ended it so I can't tell her to hook me up with the roommate but I can go around her and

DM her roommate on Facebook but then you got to wonder if the roommate's going to go hey what do you think of this guy don't don't you know him no I told brett I told Taylor the whole story we both we both knew we were doing it end around so we avoided that completely it still didn't we still had some some trouble with it down the line once we were like a couple we had to like we had like some some awkward experiences but it's all good now but at first it was a thing how long did you guys date before you got married? We dated for almost six years and then the first year that I lived here we broke up. I wrote a bunch of songs about that. Did you move her here and then you guys broke up? No. I moved here without her thinking that if I decided this was the right place for me,

she would come after. And then long distance just wasn't working in different places in our lives. And it wasn't like, there was no big thing. It just wasn't working, you know. So broke up for two years and dated other people and you probably even dated you probably even met a girl I dated because I was in like an actual relationship I didn't say I dated you I was like no no I can check I had a pretty wild time I'm not that memorable it could have happened a couple years where it was pretty crazy for me but yeah um so we broke up for two years and uh the first time we talked uh in two years I just said well obviously this is still something um but I'm not interested in dating again we've done that before so you want to move here and get married no way yeah it was quick I mean she was she was like

kind of on the way out in a relationship with somebody else. We, like, had to wait for her to end that relationship and then move here. And we were, I mean, we were married inside of a year and had a kid within inside a year after that. And all that, that, man, uh, Rapido, right? Is I say it, Mike? Rapido. Rapido. Rapid.

I try to see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. Rapid. Super cockade. That was good. That's fast. However, the fact that you dated her for a long time. And then it was just like, hey, to me, that.

feels like respect more than anything like i respect you so much that i think we should get back together and i'm not going to take around like if we're going to get back together i really want to be serious yeah and to be fair she was the one that wasn't ready the first time so i was really saying you're going to respect me and not make me wonder where it's going this time i'm i'm five years older than taylor at the time she was in college i was you know 27 she was 22 whatever so that was me saying like we know it didn't work because of timing not because this doesn't work this works. So now we're older and if we want to get back together, it's because we're doing the thing. And she agreed. And we were married quick. So she moved here. And I'm assuming she didn't get an

apartment. No, we crammed into my tiny one bedroom in the gulch. And we ended up buying our first place while we were planning our wedding and didn't even live in it because then we moved into it and found out we were pregnant and that was too small to start a family. And so bought another place. So you bought a place and you couldn't even move into it. We lived in it, but while we were renovating it, So we kind of lived in it. You know what that's like. You cram into the corner bedroom while you fix up the rest of the place. It was finished for the last two weeks that we owned it.

So we didn't really live in it. Did you write any songs about that whole experience of the breakup, the long breakup and they get back together? Oh, yeah. You ain't here to kiss me is about the breakup from my first record. And then we re-released it on the last record. That's literally I visited her in California. We broke up and I flew home early on New Year's Eve.

That's about our breakup. Dear Me is a song that I wrote. I think that was on the ticket. to LA record, my second record, Dear Me is about kind of if I could go back and tell my younger self, like that breakup is fine,

you're gonna be all right, you get the girl back. And I wrote that after we got back together. I've written a tennis breakup and get back together songs about Taylor. What about songs you wrote about people from that period where you weren't together?

Are those kind of persona non grata? This is, I mean, this is terrible, but I haven't really thought about it since you asked the question. I didn't. I think I was always, it was always hurt. No, seriously.

I know, yeah. I think it was always, yeah. No, I'm being serious. I have never thought about it, but I think it went more topical than personal for those two years. I dated a girl that while we were broken up that definitely wanted to take it to the next step. And I never, like, registered with me why I couldn't. Because on paper I should have, probably. Until I got back with Taylor and I was like, oh, she just wasn't her.

So I think when I was writing songs, I would either write a breakup song about Taylor or write to a topic instead. Writing to a topic is interesting. I have a friend who has a massive song. It's pretty much his song that people know him for. He's got a few number ones. That's like his song. But the song is not, he wrote it, but it's not about him. Which is interesting because he'll tell the story of the song and go,

hey, I'm going to play this song for you. It's a big one. I was sitting. I was in a writing room and she had this idea and it was about a guy. And it's always kind of weird to hear a song that someone wrote, not about them, but then they sing it. and you know them for it. So you've always felt it's about them.

Yeah. Do you have any of those? Yeah. Especially more lately. Up until marriage and kids, I tried to always write from like, not just personal experience, but like current experiences.

I feel like that's the best way to be authentic and connect with fans. It's like, this just happened last week. I'm just like you. You're just like me. You're not alone in this type thing. But I realized pretty quickly,

especially with kids, like if you do that, you're writing a lullabies record. You can't just do that, right? And so I had to really fight to then let other writers in the room share their experience to write their song. But like you can still, even though it's their story, you can take an experience that you've had that comes close to that and draw from that so that you can lend to the song. And have it still like kind of have your writer's DNA on it a little bit, I think, which was a challenge I enjoyed. But it is still weird to then go, this is kind of my story.

You know, like this is my song, that's not really my story. Because you wrote it. Yeah. And he wrote it with her. And now he's like, you know, we wrote it and nothing to do with me. But his life has kind of turned into that song. So now I can go and who knew I was writing about what's happening now more than it was 10 or so years ago. But I always feel like that's an interesting experience as a songwriter and an artist when you're writing a song from a songwriter's perspective that's not you.

And then you're the front, you're the face of it as well. Yeah. I think your first job is to be authentic. but your second job is to connect with everybody and everything that people are going through. So you can't really do both. You can't hold on to that authenticity in the moment thing and give a little bit of everything to everyone all at the same time.

So you do have to stretch it a little bit, I feel like. How tall are you? Six, six. God, dang, you're that tall? Yeah. And you're still wearing boots? Yeah, six seven today. There should be some sort of law.

I came in in tennis shoes. I know I hated it. I didn't. Apparently you could see up your shorts when you sat down before I walked in. I also had shorts on, so I changed. But we like to keep our camera angles very low, so it goes right up the shorts. Yeah, it was a speedo, to be fair. That's true, but it was a very baggy speedo, which was weird.

It was. I've lost weight. If you are 6'6, I do feel like boots are illegal. Yeah, I mean, I'm not wearing like a cowboy boot that has like a heel on it. Are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah. It's a deceiving 6-6. My favorite thing, meet and greets, every show, I get this one. you don't look this tall on Instagram.

I don't know what that means. Does Instagram have like it? It's like you're leaving a liquor store after you've robbed it and there's like a measuring tape on the wall. Like what does Instagram really tell you? I think that means you don't put up enough pictures of you with normal sized people because then we would know. Because when I didn't send you in a while and walked in,

I was like, oh dang. Like you're pretty buffed too. You're hitting it pretty hard? Yeah. In the last year and a half or so, I've been like digging into health and wellness a little bit. What does that mean? A lot of things.

I quit drinking last year. I got really into longevity and things that kind of extend your lifespan everything's kind of geared towards being around for my family as long as I can Do you do Brian Johnson stuff? No, I think he takes a little too far He thinks he's looking better

I think he's looking worse He's looking weirder huh He's kind of see-through at this point Yeah, he looks like a super villain A bit And he's like 44 But he could either look 70 or 31 Depending on the day

Yeah and he spends so much time I just joke with somebody about this the other day. He spends so much time on this thing that don't die has really become like don't live because he's not living at all. He's doing nothing but not dying. Why'd you quit drinking? It started with how hard mornings with children were. And then it just, I started like kind of digging into, everybody knows it's poison.

Like, you know that it's poison, but you drink it because it's fun and you enjoy it or whatever. But I started really digging into how bad it was for you. And then as I got older, like hangovers got real and kids got up or, and it just wasn't serving, it wasn't good for me. And it made my wife nervous that I was getting older and still kind of getting after it. So it was an easy decision for family. The last few weeks, including today before you came over,

I've done acupuncture to sleep. I don't sleep well. So I've tried 13, 14 different things with some effort, with some investment in my time. So not just, I'll try this for a day and see if it works. And so my wife's like, hey, you should really try acupuncture. I've tried it for injuries before, like sports injuries. and I really didn't feel like it helped that much

in the injury front. I have a friend of a professional tennis player and he lived by it. And so I tried it, didn't work there, but I've been doing acupuncture. I fall asleep within the first 45 seconds. Is that right? It's crazy.

And I don't know if I'm sleeping better at night yet. And my hours are weird, so my sleep schedule is always a battle. But I've done acupuncture and out. And as soon as she puts the freaking needle, I'm out. You ever done acupuncture at all?

I have, but not for sleep. I've done it for like nerve stuff. And that's why I did it before. And I felt, well, nerve from injury. Was yours injury? We don't, I still don't know. I had a shoulder thing that caused not pain, but cause like tremors and stuff. And it ended up being a nerve impingement.

I don't know what it was from. What arm? My left, my non-dominant arm. So you didn't pitch with that arm. You didn't throw with that arm. No, I, I, my guess, my best guess is that that was like radio tour era. And I was walking through airports holding a guitar on that hand. and it kind of like pulls your arm out of socket slightly,

but you're doing it for hours and hours and radio tours like three radio stations a day, five days a week for nine months, if you're lucky, if your song's doing well. And that was the only thing I could think about was texting with my right hand and holding my guitar with my left hand all the time. Other than that, I don't really use my left arm. Heavy's that guitar? They're heavy.

Have you held like the actual Gibson case with a Gibson in it? Yeah. They're like steel. I don't know. You're a big dude. If you got a better guess, I don't know. I saw on TikTok these coffee mugs that weigh 22 pounds. Have you seen those?

No, why? Freaking hilarious. What's the point of this mug? To see if you can drink out of it without spelling it? That's just, what are we doing? I know, I bought one yesterday. That's what we're doing. Wasn't they like $200?

The one I bought one. It was like $89. It was still too much. It was still too much. I saw that one guy drink it like holding a baby like no problem. That's the one. Yeah, that's the one. You haven't seen that one?

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Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through. And I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent.

He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there.

Yeah. It would not be... Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back on the Bobbycast. What is your algorithm on TikTok?

Mostly sports. But it changes based on who's... Which one of my friends is like gone on a kick and sent me too many things that day? It got like way... It got political to the point that... I was bugged by it and I had to refra. You know, you can go and reset it. I had to go reset it because everything was Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

And whether good or bad, I'm like, I don't need everything to be political. Like, I actually come here for music mostly. I saw my Twitter is. I had to get off Twitter. Yeah. It's too much. So right now it's mostly baseball. And it will be most baseball seasons be mostly baseball.

I'm a big Dodgers fan. I think you know that. Yeah, but it's like, you guys, this is the same question asked to my friends at Ohio State fans. Like, how fun is it to root for a team that has all the money. and doesn't give a crap and just spends more than everybody else. Really fun, super fun. Yeah, winning's awesome. I guess I'm a bit jealous.

Yeah, winning's awesome, but I don't, I had struggle. So last basketball season, I'm a massive Arkansas fan. We have John Kalapari, so we spent a bunch of money in our basketball team. But we knew that wasn't going to be our year. But John Tyson, Tyson-Tyson Chicken, spent millions of dollars, a bunch of NIO money. Like, we're going to be really good this year and the years to come. It just felt weird because I'm not used to being a favorite or having money in anything at all. I'm a Cubs fan.

We always suck except 2016 and I'm an Arkansas fan and we just generally aren't good. Yeah. You're not wrong. Like it feels better if your team isn't expected to win and then they win. When Old Miss had that, you know, I played baseball at Ole Miss. When they won that college World Series that they weren't expected to even go to, that felt better than the Dodgers winning the World Series. But being a fan of a team that wins more often, is still better than being a fan of a team that loses more often.

Have you met Clayton Kershaw? Not Clayton. Most of the Dodgers, not Clayton. Have you met Otani? No, not yet. He's new to the team. I was surprised how big of a duty was. He's really big. We were looking him up today. He's not Brett Young big,

but he's like 6'3, 240. Yeah, he's like, he's proportioned the same as me, just a little shorter. He's a big guy. Unicorn. Yeah. And he does it all. You played baseball at Ole Miss. What was that story? How'd you end up there? SEC had the best conference in college baseball at the time.

It does pretty often, but at the time it was like hands down the best. And I had turned down the draft out of high school because they weren't offering enough money and I was going to get a full ride. It just felt like the right decision. And I saw four California schools. You're allowed to go on five official visits. I saw four California schools and then I went to Ole Miss because my high school shortstop had a visit there. What were the four California schools?

I always forget all of them. But SC University of San Diego, the private school. Um, not the Aztex. USDA. No, not, not San Diego State. Got it. And then, uh, so I did S-E-U-CLA, USDA, and I always forget the fourth one, but it was in Northern California. It might have been like, it might have been a smaller one like, like Chico or something like that.

Um, and it was just because it was a party school and I was interested in maybe having some fun in college. So you ended up in Oxford, Mississippi. Yeah. My shortstop got, got an offer while we were there. And it sounded nice to go somewhere with somebody I've been playing with for six years. and our center fielder went on the trip with us, wasn't getting an offer,

and they gave him what's called a preferred walk-on position where he's going to have to pay for school, but he's going to make the team. And so I just went, and they offered me, I think to this date, I still might have the biggest scholarship they've ever given a freshman, so it wasn't going to cost my parents anything.

At the time, they had to split nine scholarships over the whole 30-man roster, and I think I got a full ride, everything but books or something like that. So Best Conference in baseball, I got two of my buddies going with me. The girls are beautiful in Oxford. I had a great recruiting visit.

And then I hated it and left after one year. Hey, you saw now that baseball gets full scholarships all the way around, right? Because the new legislation they just passed. Yeah, they've been working on that for a long time. And it's weird that they still didn't. Yeah. But now they'd have to trim the roster back a little bit, but it doesn't matter. I think, you know, 32 full scholarships or whatever.

Yeah, victory for baseball. Yeah. Title IX made everything really hard for a really long time. And football was getting 80 full rides and baseball was trying to split nine between 30 people. people for the four years. I was in school anyway. So that's a good, it's a good move for baseball. No, oceans in Oxford. No, everybody would say you can go to Biloxi and that was funny to me. That's like people saying that lakes have beaches to me. I'm like, no, that's not the same. I'm not that person. I didn't say that. I think you're assigned to me. You pointed at me

when you said that, so you're assigned to me. Yeah, but we know, we're in beaches. They're short. We had docks. Yeah. You have where, you have places where water meets land. I worked on marinas. Yeah, that's true. One year at Oxford, why? What happened? I think mostly, I always say homesick, but I think that's a cop-out. I think mostly I wasn't happy with the way baseball is going. The coaching staff, while I loved them as people, I don't think that it was a right fit for me. I went from like earning the number two starting spot as a freshman

pitching on Saturdays to having one bad game and getting shoved into the bullpen for the rest of the year and kind of forgotten. And had I known that they were going to replace that coaching staff over that summer, they went to Bianco that summer. Had I known they were doing that, I would have stayed, but I was just nervous that I wasn't going to see the field again, which wouldn't have been fair.

I won my first two starts and then had one bad outing. So I was like, I was just an 18-year-old making a rash decision, I think. I should have stayed. Did you keep playing ball after that? Yeah, I went to Fresno State. And opening night my junior year, I blew out my arm in the bullpen before the game. Had Tommy John surgery. And so when did the music thing start?

Unofficially and officially? Unofficially, I went to a Christian school and everybody led worship, and I got shoved into the position of leading worship, Friday in front of, you know, 700 people or whatever. Always just thinking that's all it was. I didn't think there was any future in that. That was a hobby and a thing that kids did to get girls at Christian schools, you know. It was athletes or guys that led worship.

And I was like, well, I'll just do both. You know what I mean? And when I hurt my arm, I sank into like a little bit of a depression. I didn't know what I was going to do next. And it was like I was in a big Dave Matthews band phase. And so it was like drinking beer at the lake and learning how to play Dave Matthews band songs. And then I moved back from Fresno to Southern California.

And a few of my friends had gotten jobs in the entertainment industry. And one of them was doing makeup for the pussycat dolls. And it was right when they took off. They had don't you at radio at the time. And she introduced me to some industry people. And so we'd end up at these events that would then move to an after party at somebody's house in the Hollywood Hills. And I had to inevitably get past the guitar until a couple months into that, people were like, you know, you should probably actually pursue this.

Like, this shouldn't be something that's done at 3 a.m. when nobody's really listening. You should pursue it. And I took a shot and started playing bars and restaurants in Orange County and then moved to L.A. and started doing it in L.A. and I did 10 years of residences that sometimes I had five nights a week where I was making a better living than my friends that had jobs. And from there you moved to Arizona? Arizona was kind of in the middle of that because the cover gig in Orange County, it wasn't like Jimmy Ivyne was going to walk in to a steakhouse in Corona Del Mar.

That wasn't going to happen. So since I realized there was no future in that, I went to Arizona to try to write songs. When I came back, I decided I needed to go to L.A. And so I went and did the same thing after Arizona and L.A. for a couple years. What was it specifically that made you move here to Nashville? All of my friends that were getting record deals

were like 19-year-old kids sleeping on couches, getting like boy band deals, you know, and I'm now coming into my 30s going, okay, I've been doing this for 10 years. I'm the only one of my friends that I know that's making a living singing, but I'm seeing other people's songs for people eating,

or that don't care. And I thought, you know, I like writing songs. Maybe I'd go write for, I'm too old to get a record deal is what I thought. I'll go write songs for people that have record deals in Nashville. And it was like less than a year of me pitching songs and people, instead of putting the song on an artist, they want to know who the demo singer was. And so it happened like, I think it took 10 months. Were you living out here or were you coming out here and just staying at first?

I tried that. So I had an investor that I was working with who had connections here. And we came and we made a record here. And after we made that record, I fell in love with the town. I tried to come every once in a while. But it felt like I had to start over in terms of my social network every time I came back. So I moved here, thinking, like, if I'm going to be here, I have to actually be here. And so I came here alone.

That's why Taylor didn't come at first. It was kind of a leap of faith to come out here with, I didn't have any connections. I had nobody. I had to come try to make those myself. And yeah, I just started, I mean, the first. hundred songs I wrote here were also with people who had nothing going on. We were just nobody's together trying to try to get somebody to listen. And then I got lucky enough to to have Laurel Kittleson at Big Machine go. I missed out on Sam Hunt and I see something here.

I'm not going to miss out on this one. And she brought me to Jimmy Harnon. What was the song she heard or was it? Songs kept trickling into her and she was intrigued. I've never asked her what song it was. I've kind of bullied my way into a writer's round at the listening room when it was still downtown before they moved it, and she was there. Did you know she was going to be there? Did you know people were going to be there? We had, I don't think she, I don't remember who it was that was on the round with me that she was there to see, but she wasn't there to see me. Do you know who was on the round?

Gosh, I'm trying, it might have been one that I did with Carly Pierce. I used to be on stuff with Carly all the time. And I know that Carly had some interest from a gentleman here that worked with Disney at the time. And Big Machine in the end. Yeah, I know. We both ended up in the same place at the end of all that. I don't remember if it was a Carly Knight or not. There was a group of girls.

Do you remember a girl group called Sister C? I don't. Do you, they ended up having a couple songs and then kind of fizzled out. But before they even had their deal, I was doing writers' rounds with them too. So people had stuff going on on the nights that I would bully my way onto the stage.

But Laurel wasn't there to hear me. So she had to use either social media or a friend of a friend to get in touch with me once she had taken me to her label. Do you remember vitamin C? as we go on Oh yes Is that their only song?

It's her, it's one girl, one woman and vitamin C and she had the graduation song And then they did the smart thing Where they put like people talking in the middle of it Kind of like Bruce Springsteen did Or the Jerry McGuire song It'd be like

Hi Jerry, I love you Are you important girls in my own They did that graduation That was like the jam Vitamin C It's different than sister C though You have to do it right If you're going to talk in a song

Yeah, it's hard. Enrique Iglesias 9-11 version, A-plus. You love it? Well, I don't love 9-11 for the record. Well, clear. I just want to state that for the record. Didn't love 9-11. I actually hated 9-11, which it would never happen. But awesome version of it. Like, he's like, you can be my, I can be your hero, baby.

And it's like, the towers have been hit. And you're like, dang, I felt that. Yeah, so to talk in a song, it's got to be like super special. But yeah, I put my power rankings of talking in songs. He wrote 9-11 version at number one. the Jerry McGuire Bruce Springsteen

what was that song though Mike because I'll know it when you tell me because it's like the human brain weighs three hands with three pounds you know the Jonathan Nicky guy

that was a plus we used to play that The Secret Garden Yes secret Garden Jerry I love you that was a good one too that was good

and then I'll put graduation song in number three those are three great talking songs I'm surprised Sam Hunt doesn't get in there anywhere No, no, no. I think you're missing this. No, no, this is very elevated, Brett. You wouldn't understand a good talking song. Yeah, you're doing clips instead of the artist talking. I know what you're doing. But I guess, well, how does Sam, Sam talks into talking?

Sam literally talks whole choruses sometimes. Yeah, but that would be weird. Like, Sam's like, yeah, so here we are. It's the party. And then what are you going to put a clip in that? No, but he does it instead of the clip. I know. He is the clip. But that is a count of your talk. All right. Because then I'd put some. I didn't know you had parameters on this. Yeah, I just made it all up right now. So the only rules are the ones I was sitting here thinking it was actually impressive that you were going to do a top.

three off the top of your head right there. Yeah, yeah. And it's also risky to go. My favorite is a 9-11 song. For the record, I really take a chance there. It felt like a kid from a place of love. You're not great unless you take a chance. That's true.

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I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be a nice.

inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is the Bobbycast. When you do a new record, how do you not repeat yourself if yourself has been successful in the past? That's the hardest. That's like the hardest part is to change enough to hopefully gain like a new fan base, but not

alienate the ones that have been there from the beginning. I think, but that's always the goal, right? I always say like you're continuously pulling back the same curtain a little bit more with your fan base, but you want to leave like the front of it open. And that's weird for me to say it that way because I can't

go back and write mercy again. Like that song can't, like, unless we do what we were talking about earlier and I write mercy somebody else's story, you know. So I don't know. I don't want to become something that I'm not, but I also don't want to bore people. And I haven't figured out the answer to that yet.

Hopefully we're still doing it. But it's, I think that the format, country music at radio changes often enough. I mean, I've been here 12 years and we went from what we were calling bro country to what I feel like

is full-blown traditional country right now for the most part. It changes often enough that if you kind of follow what's working, you might stay fresh and different enough. But I don't know the answer. I think it's more. important to be authentic than it is to worry about boring people i think sonically same question right even if the songs aren't the same if you're same producer different producer on this new record

dan was on a lot of this record again but i did use jimmy robbins a little bit on this record dan's also good at i won't say changing but modifying per the artist like dan's special and yeah so you're using different producer a little bit you also sonically don't want it to sound very similar where someone where you've been gone for a while and they're like oh let's let's hear brett's new music and it's like well sounds very much the same like it's a fear right yeah i think it's i think everybody you can look at the biggest artists in our format right now and they're do they're getting accused of that by some people um i yeah i mean then it was fun working with jimmy because we did do a few things uh with dan loves to take just a guitar and a vocal and start from scratch that's

his favorite way to create he wants he wants to start from the ground up um i would imagine most do rather than having to kind of use something that's already been created and work around that. With Jimmy, there were a couple songs. My current single I wrote 10 years ago. The production on that was in the middle of Bro country. The production on that

sounds full pop across the board. That's not what's working right now. So with Jimmy, we got to go in and go, let's deconstruct this all the way down to the vocal and melody and start over with what's working and put this kind of Americana thing on it. So stuff like that was actually really fun. And I think when you do stuff like that, when you're pushing

towards a sound that you haven't done before, you do give yourself the opportunity to be a little bit different than you've been in the past. I think we did that a few times on this record. But again, I never want to be like the guy that's like moves to town and FGL's killing it

so I try to sound like FGL on 12 songs either. You know, I still want it to sound like me. You ever do anything that's really weird? You're like, ah, we probably shouldn't go this hard to this different of a song. So often. I think that's good. I think you should do that.

Sometimes we'll write that song thinking there's no way anybody will. ever hear this but we need to that we need this exercise in songwriting to not get stagnant or we we were me and jimmyr had a guy named tim meyers who was originally in one republic who left the band but is still a big songwriter coming in town and i had this ridiculous idea that i was half kidding when i threw it out and we wrote it's a song called conway to conier and it's basically it's like basically saying like if i'm going to go out tonight i want the djay to play everything from conway to it to conier west i mean that's the Electric Cowboy where I grew up. They played everything from Conway

Twitty to Nelly. It was a little before Kanye, but yeah. Wait, did you cut that? I have a demo of it. That's awesome. That's not even... I rap in the bridge. Okay, don't do that. But that feels weird to say, but once it makes plenty of sense, because I think everybody lives that. Conway, well, I wouldn't say Kanye anymore either because the Hitler stuff. But still, like... He took that back again, though. Yeah, but you're... For like a week, probably.

It's kind of like when Elon was like, Trump, you're on the Epstein files. You can delete the tweet, but you really can't. Can you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Kanye can't really take it. I was just kidding. I agree with you. Yeah, okay.

I'm just saying like... I'm pretty sure I couldn't even if we loved the song, put that song out. Boy, this is what sucks too. Kanye has freaking bangers. Yeah. Like college dropouts like one of the greatest albums of our lifetime. Can you separate art from artist? I wish I could.

I feel like I can if I liked a song enough. I'll be honest. Really? I can fly R. Kelly, still the jam. I hate the dude. By the way, hate the dude. Hate 9-11. For the record.

Hate R. Kelly and hate 9-11, I believe I can fly. Space Jam? Tell me if that comes on and you're not like arms out. Like, I'm to be. It can catch my subconscious, but if I start thinking about it, I got to turn it off. What about Michael Jackson? Because he really didn't get convicted of anything. He just settled. Yeah. I'm giving him all these really. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a gray area. That's gray area. I'll listen to Michael Jackson. Yeah, me too. Especially after watching the documentary he's about, I feel like he was set up in May. Are you as Did he next? Where are we going with this? Bad dude. Yeah.

Can't listen to Ditty. No, because I saw Ditty beat the crap out of Cassie, and I don't care what freakoffs he did. Like, find me a dude that hits a woman like that. I'll find you somebody I wish never existed. So, but like, I need the girl part two, kind of a jam. But I'm Diddy Free right now. I'm like at the airport when you don't want to pay taxes going to a foreign country.

Diddy Free. Proud of you. That's duty free, but you got it, right? Yeah, I don't know, I got it. Yeah, it's a weird. Like, I didn't stop listening to Ryan Adams. I like Ryan Adams. Yeah, he went through a thing.

He did. And I didn't like it. And I don't like that. And maybe I don't think I'd be friends with him. But his music's good. It's really hard for me to separate to the point where if I really get into somebody or their art, I do the whole like don't meet your heroes thing. I'll avoid them on purpose because I don't want to let them ruin it for me.

The hard thing about artists is artists are artists because they're, we'll just use the universal term weird. I think there's an insecurity in anybody who creates because we're trying to find love in a way, right? It doesn't matter what it is. if I'm doing comedy or you're like there you have to have a screw loose to do this whatever this is and hopefully it's the right screw but many times a person that is doing an art also has an art brain and an art brain can be very dangerous because you're going to do weird things in one area and you just hope they're the legal areas the hardest thing for me is there are people in this town that I just don't like as people and they make really good music and so I'm not allowed to like their

music because I just don't like them yeah like that's a hard part for me especially with what you do Yeah, yeah, I just, I don't ever talk bad about them. They just don't exist to me. Yeah. You ever see that Black Mirror episode where they blocked, you watch Black Mirror? Oh, that's a great show. Yeah. Is that, wait, hold on.

Do I need to, we need a show right now. Is that our next show? No. It's not? No. Okay. Is it my next show? You'd be a worst person if you.

Okay, so I don't need the show. The Office at One, Power Ranking, my favorite TV shows ever, thanks for asking. The Office at One still, I think it's Black Mirror too. Wow. All time. And the episodes have nothing. to do with each other. They're all separate.

And it's basically where technology, like all the dark places, technology is taking us. Mike, where does that fall on your list? I mean, yeah, some of that stuff has actually come true because it started back in like early 2010. Some of that stuff, it's reality now. Watch.

I don't want to do homework with you because you'll beat me up. You're a lot bigger than I am. But White Bear, if you go to Black, I believe it's season two? Season two, yeah, episode. There's an episode called White Bear. Watch that, and if you're like, I think this show's for me, then you continue on.

I'll answer back. Dude, that's my favorite show. but I'm dark. It's funny because like office into that, one of these things is not like the other and that's one too for you. Yeah. You feel like if you watch enough black mirror,

then you got to like settle down with a little office. Pallet cleanser for sure. Yeah. Because you start to hate, it's like what we're talking about on social media and you just get all the whatever it is and you just feel worse about yourself.

Yeah. How famous do you want to be? I've been talking about this in therapy. How famous do you want to be? I don't like it. It's, it's, it's, I'm lucky that I fly under the radar for the most. part and it's still too much for me. If I'm if I'm there to be the artist, then I'm good with all of it.

But if I'm doing everyday stuff, I don't like that it creeps in. So there's a level of fame that you cannot get to then if that's where you're most comfortable? Because you can't be ubiquitous. You can't be ubiquitous in culture and be able to float through without people knowing who you are. It depends on what your question actually is. Do I like it or am I willing to put up with it? Okay, both. Do you like it? I don't, I only like it to a point, and I only like it in its place. But I realize it doesn't work that way. I would like, I would like to be, what was the question, famous enough to not worry about my family being provided for.

That's not the answer you're looking for. No, no, I'm not looking for an answer. Your fame is associated with... Financial success. Stability, being able to provide. I never, ever cared about people. knowing who I was or being famous going into this. I wanted to make music for a living because I didn't want to do something I hated to make

money. You're kind of hard to do, even if you weren't an artist, like you just walk through, you have a pretty dominating presence. It's the whole 6-5-in-boots thing. Are you 6-6? 6-6 in Boots. Yeah, close enough. I don't mean to insult you there, Smalley.

No, it's a little guy. I, strangely as big as I am, I don't get, like, picked out of crowds. I don't, like, walk through the airport and get attention. I think you're just missing it then because you're also a good luck. guy and I think you're out of your mind if you don't think that or you're playing humbly or I believe you feel that way because sometimes people will say that crap and I'm like I know you're lying because there's a microphone in front of you I believe you feel that way. No I genuinely do. No I do believe you feel that way but there's no way that's true. I you're there's a you have to be right a little bit because

my wife will will walk through an airport and then she'll be like she'll start talking about something like she thought I saw it too and I didn't and so maybe I'm just oblivious but she'll be like she'll be like I can't believe they didn't come ask for a picture and I'll be like who they She's like, well, way back there by the bar that we walked by, there were these three girls, and I'm like, I don't know. Working theory, you're too tall. You can't even see that. I look right over them, right over the top.

Yeah, there it is. I'm going to go with that. That's the theory. I told my therapist, fame is, and I don't even know what fame is anymore, because everybody can be famous for something because there are no real gatekeepers. At least there aren't near as many as there used to be.

You can be the world's greatest cauliflower expert and have a little bit of fame in a pocket of the world where people know you as being a cauliflower influence. like it doesn't matter you can be famous to somebody doing almost anything if you're an expert and you're good at it and my therapist is like what's you know what do you want how famous i only want to be famous enough that i can play celebrity golf tournaments and if i want to go and throw out the first pitch at a cubs game they'll be like yeah of course that's that's it that's it because i had a brief minute where i got really close to it i was on idol and i won dancing with the stars and i wasn't

famous but i was like fame adjacent it was when i was it was the most it was the height and it It got really weird with like... You didn't like it? I like some of it because the money was awesome. Yeah. And getting to do cool things like throw out first pitches. That's the best. That's the best.

It was the most fun. But it just got weird sometimes like people like coming to the house, like driving by the house. We moved because there's a side road near our last step. Like there's a lot of that. And now that I'm married, my wife does not like it at all. Like she's anti. She doesn't like being in the public at all. Yeah.

So I think that's my level I want to get to. I want to just like the Savannah bananas are in town. They would like for you to come out and play. I don't need to be any more than that because I like what I do. that's the level. That's where I want to peek right there. Yeah, I like how you did it. Your answer is like in terms of what it gives you access to.

I like it for that reason. I like all of it for that reason. I got to do, I got to pitch an inning for the bananas last year. Oh, really? Come on. I'm 44. That's awesome.

Baseball was supposed to be my thing my whole life. I bullied my way into it. They wanted me to come sing. I said, I'll sing if I can pitch. You know, but still like, so I enjoy those sides of it.

So I shouldn't be so anti. I'm not totally anti. I didn't take it as anti, by the way. You may have felt that. tone, but that tone did not come out that way. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I like the cool things I get to do as a result, for sure. What's the coolest thing you get to do because of your success? The coolest thing for me is probably not the coolest thing to everybody, but for me, because it's sentimental. I'm a Dodgers fan because of my dad. My dad's been a Dodgers fan since he was nine years old. When my second, I think it was my second record came out, one of the pieces that we did, we did in L.A., and we actually got to use the field at Dodgers Stadium.

Corey Seeger and I did this, like, we played catch. and interviewed together and stuff. But at the end of it, they let me stand on the mound and my dad stand behind home plate and they let me play catch with my dad at Dodger Stadium. I couldn't give him anything cooler

in his whole life than that, and I got to do it because I sing country music. Pretty cool. That's a great story. Yeah. I got the first pitch out at Wrigley. My stepdad was a massive Cubs fan who made me a massive Cubs fan

and to be able to take him on the field like its top three moment. How was your pitch? It's awesome because I'm not stupid. I didn't try to throw it hard. lofted it right in there. I also know aim high because you'll you'll bounce it in. If you get up on the mound, you try to throw it hard,

you're going to try to throw it to the mid, and you're not going to realize that 60 feet, six inches is a little further than you remember. It's a little further. Yeah. And so I got up two thirds on the mound and throw high. And so it just dropped right in there and walked off. I've gotten pretty good at the first pitch thing because I know my limitations and I'm not trying. What am I going to do?

Henry Rowling Gardner. Nobody's going to be impressed even if you stand. on the mound and throw, I mean, what are we going to do? Wip in a 70 mile an hour strike. 59. Are people going to applaud me for throwing a 59 mile an hour strike? It's kind of like the anthem. If you do good, they look away.

If you do bad, they make fun of you. Yeah, you can crush the, and I'm glad you said that. I have some, well, I mention it by name, very prominent music industry friends who are like, I will not sing the national anthem. And it's not because they don't love the country. They also hate 9-11 for the record. They hate that, too. Yes. But they are like, if I get up and absolutely murder in the best way, people are like, all right, let's play the game.

But if I do anything wrong, somebody's recorded it with their phone and it is going viral. So, yeah, we should like remove that. I practice the national anthem of the shower sometimes singing it. I've never sang it before because I can't really sing. How do you enjoy it when you sing it? I have to start really low. Yeah, me too. Yeah, but you can sing. Oh, I start in the key of baritone.

I love that key. It's a great key. I did this prank on my wife once where I hit record on my phone I just laid my phone down and I was like hey the rays she's sports fan enough I was like the rays of asking me to come sing the national anthem

I've never seen I will never I'm not a singer I can only sing comedy songs and I can only sing good enough that my badness doesn't take away from the comedy You do a good job I do a good job at making you not go oh he sucks but nobody ever goes oh he's good I just want you to get the jokes and it's through music

it's not distractingly enough bad So I can, sure, perfect. I just sing in G the whole time, right? Pretty easy key to sing in. I tell my wife, I'm like, hey, they've asked me to sing the national anthem at the race game. And I'm recording the whole thing. And she's like, they did? It was met instantly like that.

And I was like, why do you say it like that? She goes, oh, what are you going to do? And you hear it then start to be super super simple. She's really hoping you're not going to do it. But she doesn't want to act like, yes. And I'm like, I think I'm going to do it. Like, I've never actually sang serious. I've never saying the national anthem, but I think, she's like, do you think,

you know, maybe you should try it somewhere smaller a couple times. And I have like this four-minute conversation of her being the most supportive yet, hey, don't do that, buddy. Yeah. That conversation. I know that conversation. Yeah, yeah. But I never did it.

I was never going to do it. I can't do it. But the anthem, that's a tough one. That key change will get you, even in the shower. I will give you advice and tell you a funny story. I don't want advice because I'm not going to do it. You giving me advice makes me think I'm going to do it. So remove the advice.

Just give me the story. Give advice to somebody listening. that's thinking about doing it. To somebody that's listening, let the organ player play it in the key that you want to play it in, so you don't lose the key of the song. Got it. Dodgers did that for me, saved me. The best national anthem I've ever sang was the only one I've gotten roasted for.

Why? NHL All-Star game. It's online. You can go look it up. It's the best I've ever sang it. I got roasted for, quote, unquote, the longest national anthem of all time. I think the average is like two minutes and ten seconds, and mine was just under two minutes. Mine was short, but I know exactly when it happened

because I heard it while I was out there. I was out in the middle of the ice. And that little pause at the end and the home of the brave, there's a pause there, right? That pause was just long enough that the audience started singing before I did, and it made people feel dumb

that they were singing before the song, before they were supposed to. I know that's what it was, because they ripped on how long this version was. And it was shorter than the average. But I got, and it got, Twitter took a hold of it and it became a thing. Did that ruin your relationship

with singing it publicly? No, I went right back to the Dodgers and said it again. Yeah. It just, I hope nobody hates me for this, but it just solidified my dislike for hockey. I don't get hockey. I grew up in Arkansas. Yeah. But you grew up in California.

At least you had like the Kings, the ducks, nothing. My neighbors did. I had baseball, basketball, and football. Yeah. What about soccer? Mm-mm. I didn't get me either. Hockey is soccer on ice.

Interesting. Except they allow fighting because they know people don't like it. And if they take out fighting, people will really not go. Sorry, I'm Grandstanding right now. No, I Soccer seems to be a little more running. Than skating.

Yeah, yeah. You watch Stanley Cup at all? No. Yeah. A lot of my podcasts will talk about it. So like I know who's in it. I know it's Edmonton and Florida. I'll be watching reruns of the office.

He'll be proud of me for it. You have 11 songs on this record. This is an era where people are putting a lot, a lot, a lot of songs. I'm sure you recorded or at least wrote a lot more songs. why 11 why only 11 why as many as 11 I mean 11 wasn't the sought after number I probably have 350 unreleased songs

like from writers rooms that are like produced out as demos how many probably like three somewhere between 300 and 400 yeah every time I make a record I it's like I said earlier I want there to be at least something for everybody at least one thing for everybody want there be a heartbreak song I want there be a love song. Now I want there to be something family oriented.

There's a couple of those on this record. And then sonically, I kind of want to have a little bit of everything. And I feel like in this climate, if you're Morgan Wallen or somebody like that, where every song you put out is getting treated like a single, then sure, I'll put 37 songs on a record. But the reality for me and the way that my songs are consumed, the singles get the attention, and I get somewhere between two and four singles off a record.

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You guys are pretty tight, huh? Yeah, I love those guys. Who do you ask? of the group or do you ask the manager because since i know all three of them all three them i know very differently because they're all very different people yeah for sure this was charles this was charles i i wrote this song knowing that i wanted another artist parent to feature on it and it just happened to be that the same day that i got the demo back of the song i was flying back from augusta with charles from his charity event and so like light bulb went off i was like i don't

get just one artist parent here i would get three let me play this for charles real quick and he immediately said let me call the guys and see what they think you tour to them huh my first tour 53 53 53 yeah yeah i've been in this town a long time we walked up 53 dates with them they kept extending we ended up doing europe with them too that was the one that Kelsey was on that is a long batch of shows that's pretty cool it was it was a blast i think we booked that and then i shouldn't say my first tour because after we booked that uh Luke took me out for three weekends um Luke Ryan that was me him and bred eldridge and then even uh Lee Bryce and Justin Moore had that co-headlining tour.

So we filled the like couple months leading up to the lady-e, but my first like full tour was Laidea. I have a couple questions about this. Because as we're recording this, I don't have the record. So sometimes I like not having the record because I can ask dumber questions and have an excuse. But when I see tastes like you,

that's funny. Yeah, they didn't let me put that out on the first couple of records because they thought the title would be too risque. That's funny. Yeah. So is it what? I don't know, what's that song about?

So I like that he's just like, I haven't heard this. Tell me about it. That's when I know what it's about. It's about a breakup ruining, like, some of your favorite things because you enjoyed them with that person. So like whiskey tastes like you. Like, I can't drink whiskey anymore, even though it's my favorite thing because it reminds me to drink a whiskey with you

or kissing you after you had to drink a whiskey or so on and so forth. It's a lot less pervy than where my mind goes. All right. Full house. How rude. That's what I think of. That's my, yeah. It's not the show.

I could have called it Fuller House too, right? It's about my daughter. We wanted four kids, and after we brought our second daughter home, I had this really overwhelming feeling that that completed our family, and my wife agreed. And so Full House just meant that she completed our family. In case you didn't know 2.0. Finally gave men being bad at expressing their feelings the female perspective.

I just was, for the longest time, it's in weddings and stuff, and I was like, well, this is really a song about men not expressing their feelings, but then it's used in weddings. So women marry us and stay with us, even though we can't express our feelings. Like, what's the deal there? And so I really liked Hannah McFarlane's voice, and I thought,

let's not get the same four knuckleheads in the room to try to fake like we know the woman's perspective. Let's let Hannah write it with us. So we brought her in and she crushed it. You know, it's interesting about you. I think, like, I like hearing you say stuff. I don't feel like you say that much stuff. What do you mean?

Like, you have opinions and, like, you're not afraid to talk about stuff. I just don't know you was talking about it. Like, I know you. And if I saw you at a restaurant, I would stop. be like, hey, dude, what's up? Good to see you. So I know you well enough to do that. But like, I don't see you saying stuff. You should say more stuff. I, if you're getting at what I think you are.

I'm not getting at anything. I'm just saying, I don't know you to say much stuff and you say a lot of stuff. And I've enjoyed hearing you say stuff. So like, say, I don't know. I have like a pretty, probably unrealistic fear of misuse of platform because when other people do it, it grosses me out. I think if you're famous for being a musician, then talk about music. Don't use your socials to tell people how to vote. I'm not saying tell people how to vote. I know, I know. But when I'm a very opinionated person, like overly opinionated,

and I try to keep that out of the world where fans are consuming the things that I say and do. You don't have to be polarizing. I know, but I'm worried that I will anyways. Oh, I think if we hung out enough, we'd want to punch each other in the face, but I think that's a good thing. Like my best friends, I want to punch in the face sometimes. Those are the best friendships. Yes.

I just think you should say a little more. more. I'll say anything you want. No, no, I'm not asking you to say anything specific. You're an interesting guy. You're compelling when you talk, even when you have opinions I don't agree with. Like, I don't think hockey is soccer. I think they're two, even though I don't get out of the one of them. And I'd push back normally if I cared. I don't care. I don't like either one of the sports. But I think you have a lot to say. I think it's interesting. I think you should say more. That's my only piece.

I just want you to one time tell that to my wife. No, I probably don't need to. I probably don't need to do that. Dude, congrats on the new record. Thank you. It's always a big deal because it's a lot of time and energy and work. And then you put it out and then you have to wait and see how people feel about it. That's always a very vulnerable feeling. Yeah, it is.

And it's also nowadays just the way the climate and the way people consume music. There's an upside to it, which is you put it out with a single. And then before you pick your next single, you get to see how people feel about the rest of the record. And so there are some perks that come with it. But also, it's just a weird time. So it's nice to have a new project and be proud of it. But you kind of got to just go into it kind of hopeful with, you know, no expectations. I can know that I'm proud of everything that I put on this record.

This is actually the most meaningful record I've ever put out for me because it touches on things I was going through 10 years ago, and it touches on things that I went through last week. So I'm really proud of it and excited to put it out. Hopefully it grabs the right ears. Did you write today? I did. I came straight from a right, actually.

Was it a good one? It was a good one, yeah. I like to, one thing that I like to do, I'll let you in on what the song was today. I like to, there's a song on that record called Say Less. I like to grab things that, quote, unquote, the kids are saying these days. Maybe it makes me feel younger or relevant or whatever and turn it into a song. And we did one of those today. You didn't do Kanye to Conway?

No, but I will send, when we get done here, I'll send that one to you. I think that's a brilliant concept, though. It just can't be used right now. but it's like you were pushing yourself to write something ridiculous that ended up being really, really like that's so relatable because I think that's everybody our age that went out. Yeah. Especially if you grew up where country music was,

it rarely was just all two-stepping music. It was Nelly. It was freaking Baja men. And then it was like three country songs in a row. Yeah, my childhood was Blink 182 and Offspring. And yeah, it's you want and you do want to. I think if you're if you're a girl, you're more likely to want hip hop.

the whole time because you want to dance to everything. But if you're a dude and you're stuck in that same bar, you're like, can we have some variety? Can we not listen to this beat all night? Well, can we slow dance? Because most guys don't want to dance because they either are embarrassed too or they can't. And if we're not that good at breaking the ice, so it's can I buy you a drink or it's like,

would you dance with me and we're not going to do that to some hip hop? It's hard to hear that from you. I just don't believe you had problems breaking ice. You're freaking six-six and good looking. Yeah. You want to see somebody breaking eyes? Watch you walk up with a pocket protector. going, hey, me, my dance.

What makes you think I don't wear pocket protectors? Yeah. Last thing I want to say. You know what I didn't like? What? Five tour three, two, one. Yeah, how hard it was to say. I don't even know what I was saying half the time.

It made sense once I figured it out. Dude, I'm so happy you survived it, though. Barely. I've been holding on to that one. It's not like you had to talk about my tour a hundred times. No, I know, I know. I just remember being irritated. You were irritated one time and it stuck with you.

How I'm supposed to say this? We even made the T look like a four. Yeah, but I would see it like put on paper for me. I would never get the actual logo. I'm so sorry to bum you out. What would you like, you want to name my next tour? I'll let you. Yeah, yeah, I do.

I'll let you. Name it Conway to Kanye. You don't want to have anything to do with my current record? Oh, geez. All right. Do you know Conway, Twitter, that wasn't his real name? What was his real name? His name was like, I don't know, Richard or something.

But Mikey made a look up his real name. He went on a map and he found Conway, Arkansas, but he grew up in Arkansas. I did hear this story. Near Helena, and Twitty, Texas. I did hear this story. Mike, what is it? Harold Lloyd Jenkins. Harold, there we go.

Harry. Dude, that dude was a pimp. He was a pimp. See, he didn't need ice breakers. No, he had sideburns. Yeah. Like big ones. Do we need to grow sideburns?

I did for a while. It didn't work. Really? I even grew them where they like ate my face to the front. Oh. Yeah, I was trying anything for attention. Wow. Wow, did you ride like a, did you ride like a Yamaha bike too?

Remove Yamaha or Honda. But you did have a motorcycle? No, just a bike. Oh. Just a bicycle? Yeah. Just rode for Uber Eats. Yeah, it wasn't very cool.

All right, new album, 2.0. It's just 2.0? Yeah. Yeah, it was originally because of the version of in case you didn't know, but we started thinking about like new chapter in my life, taking care of myself. I like it. You know, whole thing. I would tell you if I didn't because I'd be like 5.

word three two one yeah no you didn't like that one yeah not really but two point no like i like it thank you yeah appreciate it's pretty good hey what's up the the the artist that sings on 2.0 of in case you didn't know what's the name why'd you choose her you know what she didn't even have anything going on at the time i heard her she would host a bunch of hers like playing and singing covers and i just loved her there's a little bit of that lian womack thing going on in her voice and i've got such a deep voice that like i just always thought i wanted to sing on a song with her and uh she didn't have offers her and anything when we brought her into write the song and in between writing it and getting ready to make

the record she got a little traction and it was like she's already on the demo i need to have her on the record she crushed it i think she's a star that's awesome yeah it was cool final two questions do you play anything now like sports yeah i'm kind of obsessed with golf you are playing a lot of golf yeah i'm suck at it but like it's the only sport i've been bad at and still enjoyed you have a handicap yeah i'm a 14 you know who i play a lot of pickle with is ross um copperman does he pickle oh dude, he's really good. I didn't know he ever got away from his athletic greens. I just always see him with his shakerbottle.

Well, you talk about somebody who loves Brian Johnson. Yeah. Well, that dude loves Brian Johnson. I can see him just being full Brian Johnson and podcast and the whole thing. He like posts pictures of his meals and he's like, this is the Brian Johnson meal. It's like all broccoli. But Ross, he was a big tennis player. He was tennis.

I did know that. So he's good at playing pickleball. I bet he is. But like creatives like yourself, sometimes we have days open where all my work friends have like to work. I'll come into town. Now you live too far. You live too far. Okay, that's one question.

The other question is, give me your Mount Rushmore, four favorite artists of all time. That's really hard. I know. And no cheating. No, number five. No, no, no. Let me four straight out. There's three that are easy for me because of their influence that they had on me.

First, concert I ever went to was boys to men. I know they're not all four. They're just one. That counts as one. Have you even met them? Yeah, I got to do two different crossroads with them. That's awesome. What a dumb question by me and no research.

But they're awesome, aren't they? And they're the nicest people. And they're, I have actually the demo of my song, You Didn't, that I put out by myself. Wanya sings the second verse on the demo. He's on it. I have that demo. I want to release it someday.

But Boys to Men, first concert I ever went to was Boys to Men and Montel Jordan. So Boys to Men, the song that got me into country music in Southern California when there was no country music was 1993. Don't Take the Girl, Tim McGraw. So he's there. He's the reason I found country. The record that made me want to write my own songs was Gavin DeGrault's first record chariot.

And then I think my favorite voice of all time, my parents, they don't know how good their taste of music was. It was accidental that they fell on soul and R&B, but Sam Cook is my favorite voice of all time. Yeah, Sam Cooke's pretty legit. He just sings, he doesn't, he, he like

misses because he's going for it, and it sounds better because he did, and I think there's something special in that. Yeah, favorite Sam Cookew song? Darling you. That's a good one. I think, I think, I was Born by the river.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In a little town. He's so good. Yeah, those live records, too. Like, I've got a couple of Sam Cuck live vinals. Because you can't really do much as far as fix that in post. No. Like, it is what it is.

They're freaking awesome. They're so good. You know what, actually, fun fact, Gavin deGraw does one of my favorite covers of Change is going to come, Sam Cooke. Fun fact, Montel Jordan, 6-8. This is true. This is how we do it. See what I did there? And that's what we did.

Okay, look, everybody. Records out 2.0. At Brett Young Music. Follow him. Say more. Don't say less. Say more. I see what you get there.

You gave me advice. I'll give you. Say more. You have a lot to say. All right. TikTok. It's all coming at you. I don't even care.

I don't care. Just say more. You guys, the records out. Check it out. And that's it. Good to see you, Brett. Good to see you too, buddy. Thanks.

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