The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Gary Vee on Finding Social Media Success, Embracing AI & America’s Political Division

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

Entrepreneur and social media expert Gary Vaynerchuk sits down with Bobby to break down what it actually takes to become a successful creator in today’s crowded online world. He explains why quantity, persistence and a willingness to be judged can matter just as much as talent. Gary also shares his outlook on the future of AI, how everyday people can begin using it to their advantage and why resisting new technology could leave them behind. Plus, they discuss America’s political division, the public’s growing exhaustion with constant outrage, the importance of personal accountability and why Gary remains optimistic that respect and civility are beginning to return. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm one of the most prolific content creators of the last 20 years. I share nothing personal. I'm actually wildly inherently private. Hey everybody, Bobby here on this episode, we have Gary Vaynerchuk or Gary V. And I can consume a lot of this guy's content. It just pops up in my feed. As somebody who enjoys sports cards, he's there. He's an entrepreneur. He's an investor. I mean, he's a content machine. And sometimes he just gets up on like curses in front of people and they're like, yeah, we support you. I don't even know. But like, I'm a fan. And so I was in New York and I was like, hey, do you want to come on the podcast? And he says, yeah. And so we talk about all kinds of stuff. First, how

someone can be an influencer. Then it turned into a whole talk on AI. And they're really, for me, was no agenda going into this other than to see what Gary Vee had to say about stuff. He's built businesses. He's invested in companies like Uber and Twitter before most people knew what they were. He's launched one of the biggest marketing agencies in the world, massive New York Jets fan, and a Nix fan. And whenever we were doing this, I think he's wearing a NIC shirt because we did this a couple a few weeks ago. It was before the NICS had won at all. So I bet you he's been very happy since this.

So here he is, a guy that I've consumed a lot of his content for many Reefs. reasons, the great Gary Vee. Gary, good to see you. Great to see you. I have a lot of people that like follow on social media and I don't have the answers, but they're like, how do I become an influencer? And mostly what I've been able to say is I'm going to talk to Gary V real soon. Because you don't want my advice.

But I consume so much of what you put out. That's very kind. So if someone had that basic question of how do I start and be an influencer? What would you tell them? The two things that always stand out for me are, passion and knowledge. So let's name it, the PK framework, right? Like, I think there's only two ways to become someone that people follow.

You're so passionate or talented. I think we can add a T in there. Like, you're just so inherently funny and so talented. I think the reason I always go to passion is there's a lot of people that are talented. But if you don't have the passion to get there, the drive, the energy, it's too hard. It's actually too hard. You know, right now currently, as you probably know, four billion people are trying to become famous.

I think we can both agree that four billion people have not achieved it. It's actually shockingly easy and shockingly hard to make it right now. What's the easy part? The easy part is distribution has been commoditized. There's no gatekeeper. You know, when our grandpappies were growing up, if they wanted to be known, they had to go to Hollywood or New York,

and someone had to discover them, say yes. So many people gate kept distribution. The internet is now distribution. And if you're Sally Pants McGee in Peru right now, then you have a smartphone and an internet connection, you have the ability

to start making content that for some whatever reason people will give a crap about. And that is a level of meritocracy that I think is intoxicating. So that's changed dramatically. I feel the same thing with music because I live in Nashville. And so a lot of

new artists or artists that maybe aren't new but haven't hit yet. They're talking about, hey, how do I make it? And it's like you have every opportunity because even 10 years ago, it was you had to be signed to a record label because you had to have distribution. That's right. But now it's universal distribution. Yes. And the previews were there a long time ago. I don't know what just happened, but it triggered me to a story, Mike Boyd, who is a very senior executive in my marketing company in the music division, met my brother. the first day of college back in 2009, and you know, nine or, excuse me, 2005.

And my brother calls me and says, this kid knows everything about music. I said, challenge him. Tell him to tell you a musician right now that eventually will get famous. He told him, three years later, we're driving to a Jets pre-season game listening to Hot 97.

And my brother freaks out and I don't know why. And he's like, oh my God, Gary, do you remember my freshman year when you said, Thank you so much. To ask Mike Boyd, who's going to pop? It's this person. That person was Soldier Boy, and Mike Boy found him on Myspace. Really?

Really. So even back in 05, 6, you know, I think back to Young Jock, Rick Ross, all gold, everything, how that song for Trinidad James blew up, you started to see some cracks. But now, to your point, like TikTok is real discovery. Every A&R is living on there. They want to see it. before they take the risk. It's not going to a bar at two in the morning

and being like, Molly Cruz is gonna make it. And so, yeah, I mean, I tell artists all the time and I have a lot of fun receipts on the internet, Gunna, Dochi, sweetie, people that were so early in their careers where I'm like, you have a shop, but this is what you need to do, and it's the answer to your opening question, which is, and this is gonna hurt a lot of people's feelings,

quantity is a secret part of the equation that everybody who has pride, does not want to admit is true. There's this inherent conflict between quality and quantity that so many artists and ideological individuals want to uphold,

but the truth is quantity is an incredible ingredient in breaking through. It is really at bats at making the piece of content that changes your life. And I'm a very big believer in it. Now,

many people will make 10,000 pieces of shit and never make it. Quality has to be a part of the equation, but you'll appreciate this. Quality is subjective. What is handsome, what is attractive, what is fun, right? Quantity is not. And while we have this era of social media

where you can post something with nine followers and get four million views, I hope everyone understands that is out of control, that is a mitzvah, that is a wild phenomenon, And I think many will regret when they look back at their lives, realize they were born during a time of opportunity and merit that was never pre-available. And I actually predict there'll be an era where the glasses

or some other medium will come along and change our world. And that the cell phone with the internet, with social media, was an incredible gold rush of opportunity for people that had passion, knowledge, or talent, hopefully the mix of the three. And that's how you become the LeBron, and the Beyonce's. And I think that's where we're at right now, brother.

I think when you say quality, some people will be intimidated by the word going, I don't know if I have quality or if it's good enough. To me, what I would often say is change the word quality for compelling. Yeah, that's fair. It doesn't have to be that you're the greatest guitar player or you're the greatest speaker. I don't feel like I am technically a wonderful speaker, but I can sell at theaters. I can do a national radio show. I do the show on Netflix.

I'm not a great speaker, but I can say things that people find compelling or I can tell my story that I find compelling. I think that's what quality is to folks. How are you compelled? How does it resonate? Whether you use the semantics of changing the word quality to compelling, it comes down to self-esteem versus insecurity. What do you mean? I'm wildly insecure. Which is often one of the ways to get to the top.

I think about this all the time. It's wild to see extreme and then even high levels of insecurity or confidence get you to a place. I would say that if you tell someone who's like scared when Gary said quality that if they're insecure and you're telling them compelling, they're still like, well, I'm not compelling. They just changed the word.

You know, my question very simply to start off this podcast immediately is when are you all willing to get the fuck out of high school? When are you ready to not? live your life based on some random person's comment or your neighbor thinking it's silly that you're talking about skateboarding, even though you're a 48-year-old dude. Like when are you ready to just jump into the pool,

kiss the girl, ride the bike without training wheels? Like, when are you ready to be grown and see through something that's in your belly? You feel like you want to be out there? By the way, on the record, I don't think everyone should be out there. I'll tell you something interesting about me. Had it not been a vehicle for my business hopes and dreams,

I don't even know if I would be a person that had social media. I don't know if you know this. I'm one of the most prolific content creators of the last 20 years. I share nothing personal. I'm actually wildly inherently private. I was born in the Soviet Union. I grew up in a household that privacy was high-valued. Had this not been about using notoriety and awareness

to create opportunity for me professionally and for business purposes, I actually understand why so many people would never attempt to be known. I would have been one of those people. In fact, I never thought I would ever be known. I thought I'd be a business person. The calculus of the world changed. The internet, YouTube, Twitter, kind of really allowed me to see it.

I was in the right place mentally and strategically at the right time. But yeah, I mean, I think this is a self-esteem insecurity game. To your point, if you have enough insecurity, you use it. It's a weapon. It's a weapon. You want to prove everyone wrong. If you got lucky like me where your circumstances of DNA, where you grew up and ultimately the parents you had and specifically for me, my mom, mine's like the other side of that pillow.

There's such an extreme level of contentness and curiosity and I just feel good. And at some level I feel guilty. I feel like my mom did so right by me that I kind of used Gary Vee to do right by the world. It's almost my homage to my mom. Now you talked about what was easy, no gatekeepers, but what's the hard because you said it can be easy and hard at the same time? Oh, it's hard because you're competing with the entire fucking world. There's someone prettier posting right now. There's someone smarter.

There's someone more compelling with their words. There's someone with more tenacity. There's someone with more grit. There's someone with more opportunity. Circumstance, serendipity. This is pure merit. What do you find about people that succeed in art? And that can be music.

It can be any kind of influencer. What do you think the through line is there? Something out of whack. Yeah, that's what I say. It's a screw loose and it's got to be the right screw. That's right. Now, here's where I get, I think, you know, I feel like we're viving. I think you're going to really resonate what I'm about to say.

If those screws are loose in the right way, then you have sustained success. If the screws are too extremely insecure, like they're just levels. If you're like blisteringly insecure, oftentimes when you get that validation financially, you get the guy, you get the girl, you get the house, you get the fame, it all fucking, that's why we've seen so many people burn. They had the wrong screw loose.

And so, but yeah, I think something, an enigma, something out of, you know, I can speak for myself. I got fortunate that I was going through the school system in the 80s where they couldn't have diagnosed all the things they feed pills to kids for now. I was completely out of control. I didn't pay attention for shit. I was too passionate about my sports cards and my lemonade stand and being social and being friends.

And I didn't give a fuck about Saturn or the periodic table. But that worked out for you. And for me, in a bit of an outlier type way, like I was that kid who got to have Napster. And having, and I grew up in the South where until Napster, you got what was at the stores. Correct. And what was at the stores was mostly a little bit of hip-hop, a little bit of rock, but mostly country.

And I grew up on country music. But I had Napster now. And so now I got everything. And then even with podcasting, I was 21 or 22, and I was one of the youngest to do like a morning show on a major market. And people were like, this kid's so ahead of his time because he's podcasting in 2008. But it was, no, I was just in my 20s. You just knew.

I was just doing it naturally because on my, age. By the way, you know what's funny? I am one of those weird ones where I act down. Like, just because I'm a consumerist, meaning I also was podcasting back then. I didn't have the seredipity of age. I had the obsession of being consumer-centric. I demonize nothing. Do you know many people have become their grandma? You made fun of your grandma back in a day for not having a cell phone or using AOL instant messenger, and now you're doing the same thing with AI. because you're grown, you're demonizing the new shit.

Motherfuckers, you became your grandma. Like you literally made fun of her 20 years ago for not knowing how to use the new shit and now you're like, fuck AI, it's not right. And I've made the comparison to when streaming was happening, people were screaming at it because

nope, we're disc world. When downloading was happening, AI is now that. And now, to be fair to everyone, who's demonizing AI, this one's big. But didn't they say that about when Napster or Limewire or we can go? That was a small, that was an industry

that was upset about losing its money. This is more like electricity and the internet itself. This is a technology that's going to affect literally every single person. Like right now as we're filming this, there's six of us in the room. Every one of us, what we do for a living,

is going to be a, affected by AI over the next decade. Now, I'm the person that believes if the six of us are good enough, we adjust. We adjust. You know, where was everybody when the search engine was invented and 100,000 Yellow Pages salesmen

got blown out? Where was everybody when Amazon was ravaging through local bookstores? The reason everyone's on tilt right now, I don't know if you saw all the commencement speeches, right? They booed every single person that said AI. I was so glad I didn't.

I had one two years ago, I would have been dead. Now, I'm good because I'm improv. I would have adjusted. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, right, fuck AI. But these people stuck to their script and were getting murdered. People are scared. And I'm empathetic to that. It is never exciting to be like, can I lose my job?

How do I pay for my kids? My rent, my debt. I just ask everyone if you've stumbled on this podcast and you just have, you know, you could have been anywhere. You're with us right now, walking a dog in the gym, in the car. Use AI. don't fear it because if you put your head in the ground

somebody using it is going to take your job not it and so I just implore everyone to play with it because it's an inevitable like technology laughs at human opinion it always has it always has it laughs like do you know stupid Metallica looks historically like do you know bad that receipt

for Bill Gates has got his own headaches but like the receipt on him on Letterman like everybody who tries to fight technology's advancements because they're worried about their money always look silly so for me it's kind of like if you love the game you got to love the game

not what it does for you I like feel like I bring this up a lot of trains a big Star Wars nerd so I think he knows where I'm going because I use this analogy a lot when Obi-1's like willing to die to Darth Vader for the better cause of the Jedi game that's how I feel as an entrepreneur if AI

was the technology that was going to come along and fuck me up right now and destroy all my businesses, I'm ready. I'm ready to go back to a studio apartment in Queens and rebuild because I can't love the game. I can't love capitalism and entrepreneurship and merit and truth and the game

only when it benefits me. I have to love it purely. And so I've been really enjoying all these entrepreneurs and capitalists and free market people be exposed for bitches. I love it. I love all these people like,

It should be merit. It should be merit. But now the AI might come and get them, they're like, wait a minute. Where's, when it's actually going to affect that? Yeah, when you're getting fucked, you're like, where's the regulation? Well, this happens a pot.

It's like the whole thing. It's why the fuck the police thing was never going to work. It's like, oh, police, please, please. But then when you're getting fucked, you're like, well, you're like, 9-1-1, motherfucker. Yeah, it's like no tax. My house's on fire. I need the fire department.

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And we're back on the Bobbycast. Do you think people that are creating AI have humanity in mind at all? Like to Sam Altman's... I think it's really fun to create villains. I think people need... Like I think just how humans are. We want to villainize people. I think a couple things.

News alert. Do I think people have self-interest? Yes, I do. But do I think people are inherently direct pieces of shit and want death for everyone? I do not. Of course, there's some tough people

that have come along in history. But I don't think Sam's sitting there and being like, oh, this is awesome. I'm going to get all the money and everyone's going to be fucked. First of all, I think the technology is so... If you really know what's going on... I don't know what that means,

I really know it, I don't know if I really know. I appreciate that. If you really know what's going on, I will tell you, because I'm fortunate to run in some pretty interesting tech circles, they're all scared of how big it really is. It's kind of a little Frankenstein. It's like this monster is pretty, and if you look,

it's not hard to look this up. A lot of the leaders of all these companies do talk about like, hey, we're trying to figure it out. Like, this is big, big. And so, look, I'll be honest with you, I'm much more concerned about, governments than I am about entrepreneurs. Like everyone's like, oh, Sam Altman. And then when we have like police dogs with missiles

on their backpack, AI dogs running around, like, let there be no confusion, everyone. Like, anthropic and open AI and all these companies, they're very powerful. You know what's more powerful? America and China and Russia. Like, I think what we're fearing, the governments, the thing I'm most interested in is what is full-scale, surveillance and police state look like in society. Like planner is kind of what it sounds like to me now. Like the government's using, that's a AI. I mean, that's just, and they're in there.

And it's just like, I just think people forget that government, for example, on the jobs thing, let me bounce around a little bit less daunting. If we have 30% unemployment, let me give you the news alert of what's going to happen. The government's going to print cash and people are going to work three days a week. And by the way, news alert, 90% of people are going to love it. Let me say it again. Remember how much everyone loved COVID? You sat at home

playing video games and drinking fucking champagne and the government's sending you money in the mail? People loved it. I didn't love it. I fucking hated it. But again, you and I are sitting here for whatever reason. And by the way, what if extreme capitalism

led to a form of socialism? Like, let's call it spade of speed. How many people on earth, let's just use America, how many of the 330 million people would love to work three days a week and make the same amount of money because the government's subsidizing it because they're taxing the 10 companies

that made all the money. I have a funny feeling a lot. And I have no judgment on that. I wouldn't like that. I want to create, I want to build. It's in my blood, but I don't know, there's some really interesting untold stories that are going to play out here in the next 20 years

and I'm curious, but honestly, real talk, I'm optimistic. I know the last five minutes, a lot of people got spooked or worried. I just would not underestimate the human being. What you're saying now reminds me of the conversation that Elon Musk was having. I've seen him have it in a couple different places where he talks about how in years there will be a living wage. It will be just that AI will do the jobs.

People will be able to stay at home. There's no reason to save for retirement. And he's acting like this is happening in 10 or 20 years. But it is wild to think that we'll call it super capitalism because my brain will just say could result. You like that right? I've been playing with that line. With socialism. Wow, what if extreme capitalism?

It literally, that triggered a form of socialism. I'm like, that's a brain fuck. After all 100 years of debating this, that was the outcome? Yeah, I mean, I never saw that 10 years ago. It looks very, you know, the Plinkgo board, like what path are we going to take? It's definitely one of the paths, especially if you understood how money is made. You know, if you really go very highbrow and very thoughtful, the world is predicated on weaponry. which then allows a country like us to print money in perpetuity based on nothing.

Because we have more weapons, bigger weapons. You got it. Yeah. Right? Like, it just goes back to third grade. The kid that grew, did you have a friend that was fully his full size by fifth grade? Yeah. Big shout out to Garrett Van Fleet.

Garrett Van Fleet, known in our parts of Western Jersey as first to touch net, last to touch backboard. Was a monster in sixth grade has not grown since. were that monster in sixth grade. And so is China right now. And that kind of keeps the world at bay because everyone's scared. And who would have ever thought that atomic bombs

were actually going to lead to peace? That's the most counter take ever if we're sitting and doing this podcast in 1949. And that's why I actually think this whole AI demonization reminds me a lot of the atomic bomb. It is one of my hypothesis.

I don't know if I'm right or not. But I don't think a lot of people in 1950 thought the atomic bomb was going to be the anchor to unprecedented peace. It's the ultimate checks and balances. There you go. So what if AI became the ultimate balance to work life balance? Wow.

So would AI within countries in your mind, is it a race within countries to have the ultimate AI because then you have the biggest atomic bomb? Yeah, but I think they get commoditized. You know, you hit a certain level, much like atomic bombs where it's like maybe, like I'm not educated enough, maybe our atomic bombs slightly better than China's or vice versa. But the punchline is they're both the fucking atomic bomb. They both kill a lot. I think AI

is going to, you know, everyone's like which model? I think it's like big data in my marketing world. Eventually you realize that the IRS and Visa and MasterCard and Walmart, like everyone had enough data that it kind of got commoditized. I have a funny and you see it now, right? It's not like I have to predict on this. Like most of this shit

is like, oh, today, Nano did this and tomorrow open, like it all feels like there's 13 that are all Hicksfield versus, you You know, run away, like, it feels like all of them are kind of like one-upping each other every fucking week, and they're all just like gonna be fucking epic and like, what a brain fuck. Like, for example, I think I'm gonna launch a music album

because of AI. I have a lot of things I wanna say, and I'd be a great rapper. Big issue, I have no musical talent. But the words I say are very much in that vein, which I think has led to my popularity, and I love hip hop, and I want to make it for myself, and then I just might leak it and self-wore. 40 million albums.

Do you feel okay with the booing at the commencement speech that will happen to you if you make an AI album of music? Yes, which is why I wouldn't do it until I felt the world felt that that was okay. Like I want to do it now, but I have a very good feeling not only would I get booed, I might even get stabbed. And I prefer not to get stabbed. And very honestly, I'm too empathetic because I love the music genre and I love all of those artists. so many friends and so many people I admire. I know it's not the right timing now. And I want to

understand what the culture, what humanity feels about it, but the technology is there and I know it's going to happen. It's already happened. If we go less existential. Yes. And I got a lot of people from the states that I live in, Tennessee, Arkansas, Iowa, Alabama, that are watching this going, well, AI doesn't really affect me, but I would love to know how it could affect me positively. How can somebody that has a normal job going in, grinding away, how could they use AI to benefit their lives? I mean, a lot of ways. I mean, I think, you know, first of all, it's just opportunity. You know, again, it's the internet.

It's social media. It's pure opportunity. So I think first you just got to spend five hours using AI to educate yourself about AI. It's very meta. So just getting on like a Claude. And by the way, like, you know, listen, I have offices in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I do a lot of stuff in Minnesota. I've been very middle America out,

even though I'm a Jersey boy my whole life. I don't think this is a middle America versus coastal versus first world country versus third world country. I think this is just mindset. There's unlimited people in middle America that are ready deep into clawed and open AI, and there's unlimited people on the coasts

that are demonizing it. This is just a human binary thing of are you an optimist or are you a pessimist, right? And I think if you're an optimist, or if you're in the middle, if you're purple, not red or blue on this right now, I hope this is the podcast that just gets you to download it, at least taste it.

You know, I'm not even going to get into harnesses and personal computers and OpenClaw and like all the shit I'm already doing and others that are very off the charts doing. I think just using it for information. But like when we get into agentic agents, like eventually just so everyone knows, in 15 years, your AI is going to be shopping for you,

reordering stuff for you. I think the biggest pro for AI, let me just curveball this, because I want everyone to hear this. This is often the singular thing that gets people to look at this technology slightly differently. The biggest pro is what it's doing in medicine. Here's a trade.

Let me ask this very simple question. If I told you that this is how life would have worked out if AI was not invented. Like just seven years ago, you won't lose your job. You won't. I like it. But your daughter's going to be diagnosed with a deadly disease that was unable to be found

without AI and we'll pass away at 13 years old. I don't like it. Correct. I just have a funny feeling everyone's going to trade the job part for the health and well-being and the extra decade with their mom and the extra 60 years with their daughter. And I'm incredibly ecstatic about AI medicine because people's lives are about to be saved at an unprecedented level. So I'm very bullish on that. And as far as the job part, where does accountability come in?

Right now you're listening to this podcast. You are being told information that you should put in the work of 50 to 100 hours to know how to use AI, and that will help you either create a side hustle or get another job. Now the question is, are you going to do it, or are you tired, lazy, you know, non-motivated, indifferent, and you're not going to put in that hours, and this is your strategy. And if you're listening at home, I've just crossed my fingers and I'm about to do the whole, I just blew a lot of air in my mouth, big cheeks. Is this your strategy?

because that is not a strategy when there's a big technology, and people should know that. If you're grown, if you're over 40, you watch what the Internet did. You watch what social media did. You watch what the iPhone did. You should not be delusional to how big of an opportunity and how much of a risk is in play with this new technology. The Bobbycast. We'll be right back.

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The videos of AI doing good do not hit as hard because, again, they're not getting the same amount of playing. As someone who's been putting out content that is good for the last 20 years, I'm very aware that people peddling negativity and hate do better than me that are peddling love and optimism. I just don't care. I guess my point is a lot of people are just seeing all the negatives with AI because those videos do better and they're served more. And I'm asking people to be fucking adults and do 360 work and be accountable.

They're listening to us right now. I'm telling all of you right now, verbatim, that AI is likely the best thing that's ever happened to you. Now what? Now you get to decide if you believe me or if you believe someone else. I would just tell you that, let me tell you my 20 years of receipts.

I've made content for 20 years, giving you all the angles of opportunity for yourself, and I've told you the whole time that I cannot help you, you can help yourself. Now let me tell you who's peddling all the stuff that's scaring you. You're not capable, I'm gonna scare you and vote for me or give me your money

and I'll help you. You decide who you want to listen to. That's some real fucking talk. Yeah, I agree with you, because I've been able to see the advantages of it. I also understand the fears of it because that's what people are being fed the most because that's what's getting the most reaction.

Yes, but at one point is there accountability? There's not. Well, listen, I understand we're in the greatest here of pointing fingers and we don't like to point thumbs. I have a problem. You're grown and you will pay the consequences of your actions. If you literally are not willing to be accountable, if you do not want to put in the work

to take advantage of these opportunities, maybe there's an argument that you should lose. So survival of the fittest a bit? Listen, I'm a big fan of balance. I am as purple as back to like middle versus coast. Like you will not find a more purple fucker than me. I am grimace. In my head, I had grimace up.

Really? Yeah, I had grimace on my head. I know that some youngsters might think Barney were a little. How old are you? 46. Man, you look, he looks, you guys are pissed, right? He looks too good. No, really, you look a lot.

I didn't realize. So we are grimace. under 35 year olds probably thought Barney, but I'm very purple, so I'm not one of these like, fuck it! Like I believe in, you know, some levels of, you know,

government and some levels of, but I think we, I think both sides are so off the reservation right now. Everyone's fluorescent blue, radical red. For the same reason, right? That's what gets shown to us

that things are getting the most attention. Bad news, everyone. I'm about to say something that's going to hurt your feelings. You're all the same. You know that, right? Yeah. You're literally actually the same person.

just on the other side of the coin. But you are on full tilt that you believe someone's gonna save you. How about that shit? You believe someone's gonna save you. They've both tricked you. That this is what's bad and I can help you.

And let me break that down to what that makes you. A loser. Sorry. If you think fucking a president or a governor or a mayor is gonna save your life, you're in big trouble.

And I feel bad. sad. That's why I put out so much content. I'm desperate for you to understand you're in control and you're capable. I found that sensibility is not the most shared. Like it's the enemy of being entertaining, therefore it is not the most shared because it doesn't keep people on social media. Yeah, I mean, again, I think that's accountability time. Like this whole idea that what you're saying right now, I so understand, but just to remind you, pre-internet, pre-social media, people chose to turn on CNN or Fox. People chose to read the New York Times or the New York Times. Or the New York post. People have made these choices for a long time. But they weren't as polar then.

Well, by the way, I, again, I got Fs in school, but I got A's and B's in history. Like, the 1960s were super polarizing. I wasn't. I don't know about the 60s. No, no, you didn't live the 60s, but you're a smart dude. Well, I like, what are you like confused right now? No, I'm not confused. Help me here. You're confused about the 60s? You don't know anything? I do know about the 60s. And I have talked to people that are older than me and said, hey, what's more divisive? Vietnam, the 60s, or today? Do you know how humans were? When you're older, you think it's more extreme. It's also recency bias.

Bro, everyone was getting shot in the 60s. Yeah, I mean, we haven't had a Kent State for sure. Not only that, it's all of them. It's MLK, RFK, JFK, people forget that Gerald Ford had multiple assassination attempts on him. Reagan, bleeding into the early 80s. Like, Lenin, like, you know, like, it was, I mean, you can't even comprehend the racial

tension, like, we still feel it. Like, think about where we're at with racism and racial tensions today. You understand the insanity that was the 60s? I think, and here's what happened. The 70s and 80s is called fatigue. I'm actually really pumped. I'm going to put it on wax right now because I'm going to clip this shit in 15 years. We're starting the earliest process of fatigue right now. But fatigue could be seen as a positive. I see it as a positive. It's a reset. I don't think it's like putting our issues under the rug. I think we've battled it out. You know, fighting. I don't know like, you know, where you grew up, but like me and my, in the 80s in Jersey at Martin Luther King Elementary School, I learned it early, which is like, you hate someone, you fight. And then weirdly,

you're like boys. And I feel like in the macro, we've been fighting here for a minute now. And like, I'm actually, again, I'm an optimist on this. I believe in human beings. I think we will have a 70s and 80s to this 60s, I think people will be fascinated by the 2030s and 2040s, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. Yeah, my question has always been, is this super cyclical? Like, are we just doing exactly again? Which is why I would ask about the late 60s, early 70s in that time period and compare it to now, because it just seems like it's then now, except with better technology.

Yeah, listen, it'd be naive of me to just say it's exactly same. There'll be different nuances. Anything can happen. one person can change the course of history. Right? One president, one dictator, one, you know, coup d'etat. Like, I'm not going to sit here and say it's exactly the same. But humans do repeat the same things over and over if you go deep enough in history.

And like, yeah, I'm optimistic, man. I can, I don't know, I'll ask you a direct question. And then I'm just looking for the body language of the four behind the camera. I've noticed people that were red hot on politics completely calmed down in the last two three years. Just people get tired of yelling into the wind. You can only tweet so much anger. Like eventually you're just going to be lonely. And so I don't know, I'm really hopeful. And I think there's a lot more, I think there's a lot more understanding. For example, when I opened my Chattanooga, Tennessee office for my agency in 2014 and was looking at Des Moines, Iowa,

Louisville, a lot of my employees and my clients were like, why are you doing that? I'm like, well, because I want to be in the trenches because America's pretty different in the middle than the coast. And they were like, it is? I was so stunned by the naivete that there was like some real cultural divides. Like just genuinely, literally clients, like executives of big companies being like,

that's not that different. I'm like, it's a little more different than you think. I like that we kind of know that it's a little bit different. And I like that I can see people starting to blend. I just see it. Listen, what I do for a living is watch people at scale on the internet, look at data, look at behaviors, read qualitative data, read the 4chanes, end the Reddits, and the Twitter.

I just watch, this is what I like to do. It's how I think about business, and how I think about life. I'm telling all of you there's a crack in the anger. And I think it's beautiful and I'm excited, and I hope it gets super momentum. Anything can change it, but there is a crack in the anger. People are tired of, you know, here you are six years later, and you're like, man, I had a best friend for 22 years.

We haven't talked in six years. For what? Because we saw the world differently. As if. You know what blows me away? Having the audacity to think every human on earth should see life exactly the way you see it. As if.

When I first came out on the scene, public speaking, I curse a lot. I've already been cursing here a little bit. When I went to the South, I went to Burningham, Alabama. And I started doing my Gary Vee. and boy, oh boy. And I remember, like, the host was a little bit,

like, was trying to be mean to the crowd. And I stopped him. I said, no, no, this is a crowd that, if you got raised by your grandma and were told, like, cursing is the devil, just because I grew up in the streets of Jersey where cursing was every third word, I didn't have the audacity,

especially to go into someone else's home. I was in Birmingham. They weren't in New Jersey. And I think that we've forgotten how to respect the home you walk into. We've forgotten. And so if I have to take my shoes off because that's your house rules,

I will take my damn shoes off, even if those aren't my house rules. And so courtesy, civility, lost art that I have a funny feeling is in the early stages of bubbling up in a good way and I'm seeing that trend. This has been a very positive last half hour.

So I'd like to say thank you for that because you have a positive feeling about AI. You have a positive feeling about where society is going. And I don't feel like you're just saying it for the effect. I feel like you believe it. Well, I have the luxury with you of you knowing my content enough that this is not what I've been saying about society for 12 years. You know, yeah, I do see it. I'm incredibly hopeful that it's true.

I'm incredibly, I'm a street kid. I'm not naive that I can turn in a dime. We saw the horrific assassination attempt of Trump. Could you imagine if that bullet lands? That changes the paradigm. Anything can happen. That's life. but I would say that I am optimistic

and I will say this to everyone. Here's a good one. By the way, if what I'm about to say changes one person, then this is like the best use of my time and thank you for the opportunity. If you're just listening for the last 20 minutes and you can feel like you're tired of fighting,

stop fighting. I just think people are tired, bro. Like, how much hate can you deploy in one lifetime? Why? You got to ask yourself why. I hate no one. I mean, I'm not pumped about a murderer. But my brain goes into like, damn,

whatever happened to that childhood really fucking sucks for that poor kid. Obviously, you can't condemn taking another person's life, but I don't default. And then people are like wanting to like cancel and fight because you see some policy issue. And by the way, we live in the United States.

Move. Do you know how epic the United States is? This whole forefathers thing, they wrote it perfectly. Don't like Texas? Go to California. Don't like New York, go to Florida. Don't like, you know,

don't like, you know, Connecticut, go to New Hampshire. Don't like New Hampshire, go to Tennessee. The fact that we have options and don't need, it's not like Europe or like, fuck, you got, you know, like, it's pretty cool, right? But stop hating people, what the fuck. End on Dad Gang. We're talking about a free game, yeah.

Yeah, tell me more about that. This is a great American story. Like, just three buddies, entrepreneurs built it. You know, I've had some success with that. fashion brands, Siegelman Stables, another hat forward brand is Max. I just got involved with early on in his career several years ago. And first of all, I just think fatherhood is the coolest. I think a lot of people take a lot of pride in trying to be a good dad.

I think we have an incredible rise of good fathering. In fact, I actually think fathering is finding a purple. I don't know if all of you are paying attention to this, but I love that like you could be nice, but you could also be like, cry when you lose and fuck eighth place trophies and be a man. And like, you know, I talked to my son the other day,

he's 13 and I finished the sentence with like, I'm not your mom. I'm here to be your dad, bro, manned him up. I bodied him a little bit. And it was awesome and I just think fatherhood and being a dad is in a nice era right now. I really actually think it's one of the things that are getting to purple the quickest.

I think that's gonna be beautiful for a generation of children. So this brand and this entrepreneurial venture of me getting involved in has been really fruitful because I love anything that is selfish and selfless. I love like, oh, this could be a good investment. I can make some paper for me and my family while also supporting something that

if we make being a dad cool and being a good dad cool, well that's just good for society. It's similar to V-Friends. I don't know if you know what I'm doing with that. That's my Pokemon Marvel. Those are 260 characters, you know, fearless fairy,

Ambitious Angel, Empathy, Elephant, Patient Panda, where I get to like be a 19, back to you being 46. Do you remember our cartoons? Yeah. Where like He-Man would be He-Man, and at the end, he'd be like, and remember kids, you know, remember boys, be nice to your sister. I go like rug and hug my sister because He-Man told me. You know, our cartoons had a message,

and that's what I'm trying to do with BeFriends. And that's where I am a little bit in my life now. I get a lot of opportunities, but with this, I was like seeing the pride. I've watched a lot of people wear this hat. I've talked to some people long before I even knew who was behind it. I'm like, hey, why do you rock that hat? Literally, and because I'm Gary Vee and I talk about this shit, people are crying me.

Like, my dad was terrible. I want to be a good dad to my one-year-old. Like, really cool, gnarly shit. So I'm really proud of those guys. I'm excited to be involved. Rev up the marketing, build a business. Look, I believe in the American dream more than anybody. I'm a byproduct of it.

It is still uncomfortably real, even though people try to tell you it's not. and they're living it. Well, I appreciate the time. I'm also a Kaboom guy because of you. Really? Yeah. Dude, can you guys have me back so we could just talk an hour on collectibles? Easily.

I believe collectibles is on the pre-dawn of joining music, sports, and fashion as a lifestyle genre. Everyone's collecting something, handbags, you know, Labubu's, like vintage clothes for the ladies, watches, sneakers. I mean, but it's insane how big kaboom has gotten. If everybody doesn't know what the hell we're talking about, we're talking about an insert in Panini sports cards called Kaboom that have just gone completely ballistic. If you go to eBay right now and type in Kaboom card,

you'll be blown away. I lost out on a Brunson Gold Kaboom last week, and I'm so angry at myself because I have deep pockets and I shouldn't have been a puss, and I should have bid one more time. And now I don't know if I'll ever get one, and if he wins a title here, which please God, Please, can we end with?

Back to Middle America. Middle America, I'm coming. The Knicks are playing the Spurs in San Antonio or the Thunder in Oklahoma City. So I'm excited to see all of you if you listen to the pot. When are you guys putting this out? Soon. Good. If you listen to this pod and you see me in the arena, come and say hi, let's dab it up because we're like-minded people and got a lot of love for you.

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Same us. Same us. But are we the same? I think we have the same energy. What has changed since I talked to you last? It's been like, what, two years maybe? Oh my gosh. I mean.

A year and a half at least because it's a winter time. My team has changed. I put out some new music since I've seen you. I went on, I was, what tour did I do? Last time I did the Jason Aldean tour, which was so fun. He's the best. I'm trying to think. Daisy's gotten older, my daughter.

How old is Daisy? Daisy's four. She'll be five end of this summer in September. It is crazy watching her. Like literally you blink and there. I cry every episode. I'm just going to start with you right now. It's just makes me very emotional.

Mother's Day was yesterday. Mother's Day was yesterday. Did you have a good Mother's Day? I had a great Mother's Day. What did you do with your Mother's Day? I just, I mean, we just kind of hung out. But stay by the pool, when I had lunch, We went and got Lady Bird Taco.

Daisy loves Koso. I love Koso. Oh, I love that for a lot. And then we got that for lunch. And then we just hung out. And then what was after that? Oh, and then we ordered P.F. Chanks for dinner. What do you have P.F. Chanks?

Oh, the spicy chicken with white rice. Why? I think you're a vegetarian. No, you're definitely not a vegetarian. That was crazy for me to even suggest that. I'm not a vegetarian. It's actually funny. I'm more like, I'm a meditarian.

I'm pretty low carb because of my diabetes. So, like, I am health conscious because I have to be. And then we went to Dairy Queen and got some ice cream. So it was a very, like, yummy. That's such a Texas. You're such a Texas girl too. I love Dairy C. Aren't you Texas?

Baytown, I know. Baytown, I like, yes. And we. What do you get a Diff Cone? No, I get the Eminem Blizzard. Oh, I love them. They, like, know me there now. You go that often?

Oh, yeah. I at least go twice a week. Where do you even find a Dairy Queen? But I get, like, there's a Dairy Queen by our house. I know. I, we go to this. playground right by Jerry Queen. So we go to the playground

and the main days ago get any ice cream. Living your best life. And I don't like, I just get like a mini and because I know how to bowl us for it with my diabetes. Like I know exactly how much insulin to take. And, you know, it's just our thing. So that's really good to get like you, are you kind of a creature

of habit with food? Yes, I'm a creature of with food. And especially like, the thing is what I figured out with type 1 diabetes. That helps you manage it. Yes, it's like, I know the things that I can eat that are good for my blood sugar and I know exactly how much to take insulin for. And so, and then I have like a few indulges that I'm like, okay, I can have an Eminem mini blizzard and I can take 2.6 units for it and it's not going to hit me as much as like, you know,

but I don't do it all the time. So it's like, but I've gone to the point where like I now am so stabilized in my blood sugar that I can have those treats. Is that because you've regulated your food? Yes. Did you have a moment where you're like, I need to change my life because I'm feeling awful, not having control. Oh yeah.

I mean, especially being on tour. You started in here like 16. Yeah. I mean, I remember when I was out on tour with like even Blake, like back in the early days, um, going out with like Marin,

like that was like, those tours like were, we're just, I was always trying to figure out the right pattern and the right amount of insulin to take. So you're starting touring and at the same time you're having to navigate like a huge health issue. I'm always navigating.

But that's like, people don't even realize. It's the invisible disease, you know. It's like people don't, don't see it, but it's something that we are always thinking about it. You talk about it so openly, but like we don't, you talk about it and you're so bubbling, cute and handling it all, but like, we don't think about, like, what a day in and day out goes on to have to, like, manage that. Well, you just always have, like, I now have my new pump. It's, like, connected to my phone,

so I can see what my blood sugar is. Let's see what it is right now. That's probably awesome. My blood sugar is, I hope it's a good number because I'm really embarrassed. One 90. It's not great. Not bad. Okay. Probably the traffic that stressed me out. So to stress? And that's nothing, stress. Stop it.

Stress will spike your blood sugar. So you just have to stay like eating well, perfectly centered in your nervous system. How do you keep your nervous system calm? Prayer and Jesus and writing songs. It's so funny because I was having a really stressful day. And this just goes to show the power of songwriting and being around really great people. But my sugar was like 250 when I got to. What's really high?

I mean, $250's high. I mean, it's granted what you think is high. I mean, for me, like, I would say that's high because I don't sit in that spot. But right when I got to the writing room and I started writing my sugar, like, went down to a normal level within an hour. And I was just like, oh, this is my happy place. You love writing songs. I love writing songs. And I love, I love touring.

I love my life. God is good. Tell me what you love about your life. I rank it down. What rank it for me? How it all fits in? You know, I always, I always think about this. And I think it's easy as an artist to, you know, kind of, I mean, I always want to, I have goals that I want to hit exactly.

Like, I want a number one song on country radio. And I want an impact single. I've had a number one record, but never. But like God made girls didn't go number one? No, it was top. I think it was top 15. But you had one else that got really close. Yeah, but it was, it went platinum.

Yeah. You know, songs. Yeah, it was huge. And then the charts are really... Love Triangle did really well, but it didn't go number one. But it's like... Do you know the Black Rose have never had a number one song? I'm pretty sure.

That's awesome. Those are Michael's cousins. I mean, he hates songs. Really? Yes. But I think about that because he's grown up like idolizing them and loving music. And it's like you can be... Number one songs are great.

That does not determine the success of a song. But, you know, I think it's still good to have those goals and pray for those things. You just want it to like have it to like check a box kind of? Yeah. Well, and too, like, I mean, I'm just... I would love to see that happen, you know? But I always, like, think about the fact, and I tell this to my team all the time,

the fact that I've gotten to pursue country music since I was 18 years old and do it for a living and make money to support my family and to, like, to make money doing what you love and to actually make money doing it, we should never take that for granted. And I think that's one thing. Anytime I'm feeling like a little down

or like a little what what the hell's going on and I always remember like we are so I'm so blessed the fact that I get to be a mom I get to do what I love I get to write songs and people still care you know because it's a very we all know this is a hard business but I know this is what God's created me to do and like the fans are amazing and country music fans are truly the best fans and they're always there and they've grown with me since the voice and since I had a big old flower on the side of my head and more poofy dresses with child girl boots. How did you ever decide to retire that? I know, maybe I should bring it back this summer.

I was thinking about that. Do you think I should? Do you think I should? Do you think I should? I know. I have a few of my old, like, Betsy Johnson dresses, and I was like, how funny would that be if I pull one of those out for Luke Ryan to her?

You should. Yeah, I'd have to get him probably tailored and stuff. Which is kind of what you do it, like, 2.0 version. 2.0 version? You know, because I love your style right now. And I'm loving. What is it? Thank you.

What is your style? Because it's, like, those cute little minis and tops, but it's, like, totally tailored and, like, created. It's like that creation. So this girl. In your boots and like I just love your style. It's so perfect. Silver lining apparel. She is amazing. She, um, she reached out to me. She, she creates looks for rodeo girls. And so she, like with the whole Beyonce trend when Beyonce was getting all these different girls to make, you know, her wardrobe for cowboy Carter to her, she was like, wouldn't it be so cool if I could dress an artist? And so she reached out. I put her in contact. She reached out. Yes, which is so,

Living right. You're so in line. And I love how organic it was because she's like, I'm just a fan. Like, I love to, you know, chat. And I mean, like, I can help create looks, but I was like, I would rather her work with my stylist. And, like, it'd be tailored to me. And then, you know, my stylist can, like, find, like, boots and, like, jewelry and all the things to go with it. So we...

That's amazing. So they start working together. And it's great because it's like I had all these cute sets from last year. And so for this summer, we're just revamping those sets and adding more stones and more friends. and like little things to put over it. And it's just been really fun, but she's great. Has it been a relief or like has it taken some pressure off to have this iconic look that you have now and like to have sets since you not have to like think about all this stuff?

It really is. And that's why I love Krista. Like the way we do it for tour is we have like, let's say like last year we did 10 looks and now we added four new looks and then we're revamping the other 10. It's great because I have all my looks in my closet. and she tells me what boots. I have pictures of all my boots, and she's like, I think you should wear this with this.

And then it's great, because all I have to do is grab the boots, this, and then the jewelry. And it just makes it very, and everything's tailored to me. And it's like, you put your show clothes on. Yes. And it's like, the only thing that sucks about being an artist is like, there's like my everyday clothes. Then there's like my sweats.

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