The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Joel McHale on the Community Movie, His Funniest Celebrity Friend and Bobby & Eddie Rank TV Stars
Episode Date: April 28, 2026Joel McHale joins Bobby to talk about whether the long-awaited Community movie is actually happening, his funniest celebrity friend, and the unusual path that took him to TV. Plus, Bobby and Eddi...e get into a ranking of TV stars as they debate who belongs at the top, who is the most likeable, and which names are impossible to leave off the list. It’s a fun mix of behind-the-scenes stories, TV talk, and the kind of arguments that only get stronger once the rankings start. Joel also shares some of the stories and moments that have made his career such an unexpected one. And as the TV star debate heats up, Bobby and Eddie try to make their case for who really deserves a spot near the top. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, welcome to the Bobbycast.
Now, we do have Joel McHale coming up.
Love Joel McHale.
I think Joel McHale is one of the friendliest seeming guys in television or movies.
and so I have Eddie here
and I just gave him the challenge of
who do you think are the nicest guys
we don't know them
we can't know them
because we know a couple
but we can't pick anybody we know
like even if we've spent time with them
but really don't know them
like they've been around
I kind of know their personality
but we don't know them personally
I think it has to be just people
that we see on screen
and that we feel are super awesome
just from the characters they play
or the interviews they do
got it
if we're betting money on them
being awesome people
that's who we bet on
okay
I'm going to remove, and this came up because of that, because I love Joel McHale, didn't know him.
And that interview with him's coming up.
He's freaking awesome.
He's awesome.
That's cool.
Another one that I'm going to eliminate is Michael Strayhan, because I think I would have picked him because he seems so fun.
I have been on GMA a couple times, have interviewed him on this.
I would have put him on, but I have a 1% relationship with him, but I'm taking him off.
But he would have been there.
He seems like a really nice guy.
I love Michael Strayan.
Can't get enough.
Yeah.
Okay, so we'll go back and forth.
I'll let you go first since you're the guest.
Okay.
All right.
My first one that since Saturday Night Live, I've loved Jimmy Fallon.
I feel like he is just genuine.
He is who you get who he is just by seeing everything he does on TV.
He's so funny.
And the fact that he can make fun of himself and how much he laughs at himself,
I think it'd be just great to hang out with him.
Do stories we read about them factor in?
Yes.
Okay.
I agree with you.
I know that there's been a few things.
No, nothing bad.
Nothing cancelable.
Right, right, right.
But personality traits.
To me, what's crazy about Jimmy Fallon is how great of a singer he also is.
Yeah.
Because you don't know him as a singer, but then when he actually does try to sing, not just on a show, but he'll go and sing with people at concerts, he's awesome.
Even when he does like Mick Jagger.
He sounds so good.
There have been stories about him.
and I don't want to put him on blast, but like, if he drinks a lot, like...
Okay.
That's even more of a reason why I like to hang out with him.
Right.
And I don't even know that they're true.
But, you know, we'd read stories about Jimmy Fallon at times.
When he's not working, he gets out of control at this place.
But that may also make you like him more.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I think it would be fun.
Mike, am I crazy to think...
Those have been real stories, right?
Yeah, I've heard of.
Okay.
So, but also to run that schedule and, like...
Yeah, man.
He's busy.
Okay.
I like it.
He wasn't on mine, but I like it.
Love Jimmy Fallett.
I cheated.
I put somebody on my list who I kind of know, and it's unfair.
Who is it?
I'm going to say who it is.
It doesn't count.
Okay.
But I just realized.
Kelly Clarkson.
Oh, yeah, you know her.
If she knows you by name?
She's awesome.
I have to take her off my list.
I did put her on before I made the rules.
We could have never talked to them.
I have a couple.
I was on her talk show.
That wasn't that big of a deal.
We've spoken before.
I started an airport once,
and she came up.
up to me and she was like, but, and she lived in Nashville for a long, she's awesome. I'm going to
pull her off the list. Can't do it. Okay. She is so likable though. She's awesome. Man. Like,
you know nothing about her and you just watch her. Like, that's another one who you feel like you watch
and you're like, you're really seeing who they are. Okay, for you, you don't know Kelly Clarkson. Do you love
Kelly Clarkson? You should love Kelly Clarkson. Because she's, so she can't be on my list, but
consider her for next time we do this. That's good. Kelly Clarkson is amazing. Okay, I'm going to put
Paul Rudd.
That's a good one.
I feel like he's my best friend.
I felt like he was my best friend on friends back of the day.
Because Paul Rudd married Phoebe.
They were together on the show.
On the show.
And so...
And then that's why you called her Phoebe and not...
Lisa Cooghra.
I did a movie Lisa Coodro once.
Yeah.
And if I can say something about her, I sat next to her in a makeup chair.
And the movie was called Band Slam.
I had nine lines.
Great movie, by the way.
You know, underrated movie.
I remember when I watched it.
For like teenage kids, it's clean, it's pretty good.
Yes.
Paul Rudd married her, right?
Yeah.
On the show.
And then obviously he's done everything else.
If that dude is a bad dude, I don't want to live.
Then I'm the most wrong judge of character in the history of judges of character.
I think Paul Rudd seems like the greatest, most fun, normal, self-deprecating.
Also, actually knows he's pretty good at the same time.
So when he says that, it doesn't rub you the wrong way.
You're so right about that.
I'm going Paul.
What do you think about that, Mike Paul Rudd?
I love Paul Rudd.
And don't you think, too, like when these actors have certain roles, like, Paul Rudd's never a bad, bad dude.
Unless I've missed a movie where he plays a really bad dude, he's always a likable guy, too, in his movies.
I think the roles they played reflect who they are.
No, I would say affects what we think.
Because I think they're probably bad dudes that play good people and good people that play bad guys.
But, I mean, Paul Rudd even plays a criminal in Ant Man, and he's still a good guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I never watched Ant Man.
I couldn't get into it.
He is Ant Man, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know, I couldn't believe it.
I can believe all the other ones, Wolverine.
I believe it.
But a guy's small.
Spider-Man, I believe it.
A guy is small.
For some reason, Ant-Man, I'm just like, that can never happen.
It makes no sense.
My number one is Paul Rudd.
Back to you.
That's good.
My number two is Ryan Gosling.
Ryan Gosling never met the guy.
And there is, again, to my point where you watch every Ryan Gossin movie and you just want to be his friend because he just seems, and it's not fair, they're so good looking.
It's not fair.
Yeah, that's a half point off for me that I'm jealous of how good he looks.
Because these are such a good looking dude.
But he's such a likable character in all of his movies that I gravitate towards Ryan Gosselin.
If there's a movie coming out and Ryan Gosson's in it, I want to see it mostly because I just want to see Ryan Gosson.
So I just think you have a crush on Ryan Gosseling,
but what I would say in Ryan Gossling,
not of his defense,
and more of what you're saying is,
when he does things like Saturday Night Live,
like they know how talented he is,
and the fact that they enjoy,
and he's on so many times,
and that they break and they crack a lot with him,
it means they like him.
Yes.
And if there are people that genuinely like somebody,
you can always tell.
So if people I like, like somebody, I like them,
I think the S&L stuff does more for me,
for liking him as a person
than the movies do,
although I do like him as an actor a lot.
I think he's one of the greatest actors ever
because like...
Weird to say that.
There really aren't a lot of...
I mean, I can't think of...
Dude, you're in love with him.
I can't think of a single...
And I get it.
He's a really good-looking guy.
Do you know that...
We've talked a lot about movies,
but you know how we've talked about
our top five forever?
Forrest Gump, Shoshchakronemption,
the same ones.
I think Lala Land has moved up to my top five.
Lala Land is so good.
I did not expect it to be good.
I know.
It's awesome.
And who's in it?
Well, yeah, Ryan Gosling.
Ryan Gosling.
Emma Stone?
Yep.
Yeah.
I haven't seen the...
Please allow me to respectfully comment on your Ryan Gosling.
Please.
I think you just like him as an actor.
I do, but that also means that I kind of like him as a person.
I'll let you have it.
I'm not going to argue it.
It's like Tom Hanks.
It's like, I need to see these people in interviews.
I need to see these people.
Have you seen Ryan Gosson interviews?
I saw him do a promo.
for Project Hail Mary.
Was he funny?
No.
And they had him throw a football.
Oh, not that.
So you're like, I'm not hanging out with this guy.
No, it's not that.
It's that he is on camera, a dude, good looking, gets the chicks, is also lovable.
The notebook, awesome.
He grew up basically a theater kid.
Sure.
He was on Star Search.
He was in Mickey Mouse Club.
Star Search, right?
Yeah.
Mickey Mouse Club, singing dance.
So he didn't play a lot of sports.
He didn't need to.
He was so good.
never really learned to throw a ball.
Someone in his team should have said,
instead of doing this Hell Mary throw for Project Hell Mary,
let's not throw a ball
because it looked like if I were throwing it
with my offhand.
Yeah, yeah, which would be your right hand.
And you know what?
I kind of like that about him.
He's not perfect.
So I think it's just going to,
I think it's going up another point.
Yeah.
Good.
I'll let Ryan Gosling's good.
That's a good one.
Okay.
So your two are who so far?
I have Jimmy Fallon and Ryan Gosling.
I have like eight.
I'm going to go Kristen Bell.
Really?
She seems fun.
She seems funny.
Yeah?
She's wildly talented, obviously.
And not even just for like the movies, like forgetting Sarah Marshall.
She sings in Frozen.
She does.
Have you ever just seen her sing?
No.
So talent-wise, A-plus, all in.
But she married to Dax.
They're together.
She does the commercials.
To me, Kristen Bell seems like that cuttingly,
funny friend who doesn't have to dominate the conversation, but man, when you go to her,
she knocks it out of the park.
Like, I feel like Kristen Bell is so likable.
I don't think I've ever met her.
Do you like Dax Shepherd?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't not like him.
Okay.
I respect him.
Okay.
See, I'm not a fan of his.
So then I'm always thinking like, okay, well, she's married to him.
So does that mean that she's not?
Oh, I think it means she's even cooler because he's like a normal.
dude. Yeah, yeah. Like, he's like a dude who has his freaking demons. He's had his things for sure.
From what Michigan grew up, did his whole, came to L.A., was on punked and came up that way
it writes, like grinds, podcast, smart guy, intellectual guy. I feel like her being with him
makes me like her even more. Interesting. Because I feel like I'm not as like cool guy, motorcycles,
Dax, but I feel some similarities with us with we came up in a way that was very different.
than a lot of people come up that make it in these areas.
So I think I like Cristobal more because she's married to that chapter.
All right.
I'm glad you asked that because I never thought about that.
Because if you know the person's spouse, it's kind of like a good indicator of like,
all right, what's the spouse like?
Do I like that spouse?
Or do they have to be a certain way to put up with the spouse?
Yes, correct.
Like, I think you would like my wife more if you knew how hard I was to deal with at times.
You're not telling me that, right?
No, I'm just saying in general.
Just like how neurotic I am.
And my wife is the funniest person I have ever met.
But also, she has to deal with this.
Yeah.
And she deals with it.
And no one has ever been the boss over me, like especially in my personal life.
I have a boss over me.
And it's crazy.
But Kristen Bell is my, I have Paul Rudd and Kristen Bell.
Man, those are good.
Those are really good.
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Give me your.
So the last one's hard just because it's the last spot and I have so.
Pick one and then I'll pick one and then we can do our honorable mentions.
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to go with and I didn't technically meet this guy.
You met him.
I was there watching you meet him and I was jealous that I didn't get to talk to him.
It's Jim Nance.
Oh, yeah.
Did he is awesome.
And mostly because.
Explain who he is in case people don't know sports.
Jim Nance, he is the voice of CBS sports.
He does the masters.
He talks very softly.
NFL with Tony Romo.
NFL with Tony Romo.
That's his partner in crime.
Final four, too, right?
Yes.
At least for, I think you retire from that now.
Very, very recognizable voice.
I love his voice.
The voice is great.
But I feel like he is, he plays golf.
He loves sports.
And I feel like he would have so many stories.
You know, like just.
and from watching
this is based on you meeting him
watching the interaction between you two
he seemed like a very likable guy
yeah Jim Nance just first of all
I was in awe the first time I met him
because I'm not cool enough to know
know him I do have a cell phone
number which you do
yeah but I never once texted it
not so you have it
is it under what's it under Jim
it has to be Jim in
it has to be just under Jim Nance
or like voice God
you can't do that
Man, if somebody steals your phone and they see Jim Nance on it?
They're not going to get my code.
Okay.
Yeah.
Look.
Wow.
It says Jim Nance.
I'm not going to text him now because as we're recording this, the Masters is happening.
Yes, he's busy.
So the greatest Jim Nance story.
The first time I met Jim Nance, I was playing Pebble Beach Pro M.
You were with me.
Yes.
You came as my caddy.
We ended up playing with me because I was just like, can Eddie please play?
And they were like, yeah.
And I appreciate that.
Yeah.
And I appreciate that.
Yeah.
And I was like, Jim Nance.
Well, well, before that happened, do you remember we heard.
we heard him first.
Like there were so...
There were so many people
and you can just hear voices
and then you heard
oh, that's funny,
I was there one day.
And that chicken was delightful.
And we just hear that.
And we look at each other like,
is that Jim Nance?
And he walks up and he
wasn't with,
but he knew Charles Kelly,
the lead singer of Lady A
who we were talking to.
Yes.
And so we're all just standing there talking
and it's like Jim Nance
and Charles Kelly and me and you
and I'm not saying much
and you're saying nothing
because we both feel like
we're somewhere
we shouldn't be anyway.
Right. And Jim Nance super cool. He says, hey, I live in Nashville part of the year or two. And I'm just finding something in common, right? Which is a nice thing that people do. And so I go out and I'm playing in the par three. For those that are watching, every once in a while somebody considers me a celebrity. Every great once in a while. And this was one of those instances. And so I was doing the celebrity par three the day before the pro M tournament. And Jim Nance was calling it.
Yeah, announcing it. Yeah.
And so I'm up and everybody's around and dude, and I'm not a good golfer.
I nail it.
I win my group.
Jim Nance is calling it.
So then afterward, I was talking with Jim Nance and he was like, cool, cool.
And he's like, I'll be in Nashville and he gives me a cell phone number.
I'm never going to call him, right?
So all good.
We're doing a bit, you and I are, about how Jim Nance was not allowed into a certain country club in Nashville.
And I said, these people aren't allowing Jim Nance in this country club.
they're making him get on a wait list.
That's like the YMCA not letting Kobe Bryant hop in a pickup game.
Like, what are you thinking this is the guy?
He heard that and texted me.
He's like, that's a funniest thing ever heard.
No way.
And so we become like, you know, semi-kind of friends.
But you're right.
That's a good pick because Jim Nance, to me, even when we didn't kind of know him, he's been awesome.
Well, that makes me feel better about my pick.
I love Jim Nance, man.
I just, I'm too scared to message him.
Yeah, I wonder, like, when someone gives you their number,
Like, are they expecting a text?
Are they expecting a call?
If they're expecting it for me, they ain't going to get it.
Because I also have Mark Grace's cell phone number.
Have you texted that at all?
And Mark Grace is my favorite baseball player growing up, the one that I, it was like my idol.
I just will not text them.
What a shame.
I know.
My third pick, Steve Carrell.
Oh, that's a good one.
Such a good one.
My fourth pick, though, was, I'm a,
I mean, I was neck and neck with Steve Carell. I'll tell you who the other one was in a second.
Steve Carell just seems like an awesome dude.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know what else I can say. He's done many roles that I love.
But he just seems like an awesome guy. He has like a bookstore in Rhode Island.
And I could be wrong about the state.
Sounds so cool, though.
Everybody talks so lovingly of Steve Carrell. All the people on the office love each other so much.
And they, even though Steve Krell left early to go do his thing in movies, they all were like, we miss Steve so much.
Yeah.
Mike, what do you see about the bookstore?
Massachusetts.
Yeah, close.
So close.
Close. They get them by train pretty easily. Probably a neighboring state. Yeah. Well, he is.
It is okay. It's right there in there. So I go Steve Carell at three. I bet you he's awesome.
Yeah. Don't know him. Yeah. But if I did, I'd probably be like, Eddie, you got to come meet my friend, Steve. He's awesome. It's awesome. Okay. Give me a couple honorable mentions.
Okay. I have Ken Jung, which I think he's so funny.
He's very funny. And he's a real doctor. Right. And so anytime I see him, it's not like he's a funny guy where he tries to be funny. It's just the things he says that are really funny.
I like him, never met him.
Here's one that we've met before.
But honestly, if it was just me and him and he saw me, he wouldn't like remember me.
It is.
It's Blake Shelton.
I think me and Blake, and we've seen him many times, but I think Blake and I could be really good friends.
Blake's a really nice guy.
I say that to somebody who knows him, knows him.
Yeah.
Blake's awesome.
Like, I could see us just hanging out and being real friends if we just had that opportunity.
You sound like everybody with the person that they love as a celebrity.
celebrity. Man, Drake, if he just knew who I was, Drake, man, would like be hanging out with me like,
man, do it, Kendrick and I, if he just knew, like, the type of person I was. Because Blake
comes in the studio, you know, and like, we, sometimes, like, I'll say something he looks at me
and that's it, but then he leaves. I think if he took the time to know who I was, he'd like
me too. That's kind of psycho-stalker talk, but I still agree with you. They,
I'm going to give you my three.
This one was almost my top three, though.
It was either Steve Correll or Tina Faye.
Oh, those are really like, yeah, Tina Faye's hard for me to pick.
I think Tina Faye's just delightful, so smart, so funny.
She seems so kind that people really talk lovingly of her.
That's how you can really tell to people, what she's not.
I worry about these comedians, though.
Not worry about them, but I worry about being friends with these comedians or wanting to meet.
It's not going to be funny all the time.
Yeah.
And then you're just like, well, what's that other personality that we don't know?
Okay.
Can I give you a very watered down example?
Yeah.
I go places and people expect me to be Mr. Life of the Party, say funny stuff.
I have so many stories.
Hey, tell all these stories at dinner.
Am I like that at all?
No, not really.
No.
If I need to be, absolutely.
But there's like a gear for that.
And they all have the same gears, I'm sure.
And I bet you that when they're on,
they're freaking A plus.
Like if they're comfortable with their own friends.
Yeah.
I don't think she's like murdering cats or anything.
No, not that.
But it's like Robin Williams.
Like he was so funny.
But man, they were just.
I think that's,
I think that's a different type of person.
Okay.
I think Rob Williams was like on.
Yeah.
I think he was on all time.
Yeah.
And he lived,
maybe not.
But also it could be, you know,
some bipolar type situation,
not a disorder,
but I'm so introverted until it's time to be an extrovert.
And I'm then I'm so extroverted.
Like, here I am.
I demand attention.
And if you don't give it to me, I'm going to cry and be sad.
And it's the other way, it's like, I don't want attention.
If you give it to me right now, I'm going to cry and be sad.
Do you think there are these artists, like, you know, creatives that are the same?
Yes.
On and off.
Yes.
Always.
Yes, I know some.
That's cool.
See, I feel like Kelly Clarkson is a really good example of that.
I don't think she's as large because you don't have to be.
But I think she, yeah, I think she's just kind all the time.
Tina Faye made my list of,
It almost, she always made the real list, but honorable mentions.
I have John Krasinski on there.
It could be just because I love the office.
It could be.
He could be your Ryan Gosling.
Yeah.
But I, and he's also like, I got to do your thing for a second.
Watch the stocker thing.
I got to do your thing for a second.
He also, like, is really good in like muscle roles too.
Because he can play, you know, Jim Halpert.
He was the nerd.
Yeah, and then he was, what is he?
Amazon, he's doing the, he's like fighting in wars and Iran.
The one name, Jack.
Jack Ryan.
Jack Ryan.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he's my Ryan Gosling.
We have crushes on him.
No that I say that.
And then if I'm not going to steal yours.
Which is?
Tom Hanks.
See, I love Tom Hanks.
Like, I love Tom Hanks and I've always wanted to meet Tom Hanks.
He's my favorite actor in the whole wide world.
But there was a video I saw where these like cameras got in their way.
And I think like they, maybe he fell over or maybe his wife fell over a camera person.
and then he just snapped.
And not to say that people can't be normal,
but when he snapped like that,
it ruined every single thought I had about Tom Hanks.
I don't judge a person on their worst.
I know that.
Weekest moment, you know?
I know that.
But if they did that around all these cameras,
then what do they do when there are no cameras around?
But I think they're probably comfortable on all the cameras
because they're there all the time more.
I'm not standing.
I'm all good.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you, everybody.
Now let's go over to Joel McHale.
You know I'm from hosting the Soup for over a decade.
Animal Control on Fox.
hosting House of Villains and the game show, the 1% Club.
He would have made my list to somebody that I don't know that I love and I think would be awesome.
He also starred in Scream 7, The Bear Yellow Jackets, Ted, blended, even hosted the SPEs and the White House Correspondents dinner.
Here he is, somebody who I think is awesome. Joel McHale.
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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever.
I didn't think I was going to live.
I was terrified.
There was no...
anything inside those eyes.
They turned black.
It scared the hell out of me.
That was your first murder case?
Yes, sir.
Fair to say this was the biggest case of your career?
Yes, sir.
Rape a murder for a child.
Just as bad as it gets.
I would think so.
People wake up.
I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevent and DePippo.
Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse,
appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.
I said I'm not guilty.
take it to the grief.
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And now we're going to go to one of the most likable people on television,
Joel McHale. He just seems like a good dude. He's funny. And he's my next guest here.
You know him from hosting the Soup for over a decade. Animal Control on Fox,
which season five is coming, and the finale's coming up, April 23rd.
Hosting House of Villains, the Game Show, The 1% Club, the Bear, Yellow Jackets, Ted,
blended, even hosted the SPs and the White House Correspondents dinner.
And he is one of the most likable people on television.
Joel McHale. Hey, Joel, good to see you, man. Thanks for having me. Nice to be on. How are you?
Doing really good. We were just talking about campaign donations if you wanted to hop into that
conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where do you want money? Let's do it. I'm contributing to the
wig party this year. Oh, yeah. You know, they've been out of touch for a while. I feel like they
don't really relate to anything we're going through now. Yeah, this is a big comeback. And, you know,
since I had hair transplants, I get it that they're, they haven't, you know, had been very relevant.
But I'm going to, I think we should make a comeback.
Yeah, I think you're missing that too.
But that's okay.
That's not what we're here to talk about.
No, we were just talking about how, like, there's been a couple of campaigns I've contributed to it.
I just get so many texts that I start hating the person that I've contributed to because they won't stop texting me and email on me.
And that is one of those things where I think all voters of all parties can agree.
And they have the power to stop those texts, our government.
And they're like, yeah, but we don't.
And yes, I always push stop and then delete.
And yeah, I can't, yes.
But then I'm like, well, maybe I should send one out and raise some money for something that I want.
The Whig Party, which you are now going to head in front.
Okay, I got so many things talk to you about, number one, I was watching some house villains as far, and this is not just...
Thank you.
Well, hold on. This is not just like show promo, which is why you're on, but I've got questions, and I know you'll tell me real answers.
Are these people that we have been conditioned to know as kind of either mean or douchebag or out of touch?
What's the percentage of them playing a character on television and they're actually kind of nice?
I would say the majority definitely like 99% are nice.
Like they're cool.
And we only had like there's only been a not really there hasn't been like any actual fistfights or anything like that.
And then I think one time we had a contestant like I'm not coming out of my room.
And I was like, give me a break.
Why are you here?
And I was like, I was like unless you're being truly, just being truly.
villainous that you're not going to actually participate, but then they came right out.
But for the most part, from just interacting, like, they're pretty cool.
And, you know, for the villain part, they're, they turn it.
They definitely turn it.
I mean, I was like, this is where, you know, this is a show.
Everything is on camera.
Turn it on.
And here we go.
And so it's definitely a heightened version of them.
And I guess it's a heightened version of me, but I was like, this is your chance to,
really let it fly and let that stuff go and you could win a bunch of money.
So I'm, and as you know, I mean, as you've seen probably, like the show is silly.
So that's what we, you know, it's a lot of jokes.
So we, that's, yeah, that's what I enjoy.
And we tell them, like, this is all going to be ridiculous.
Still a competition and all that stuff, but it's going to be wonderfully ridiculous, hopefully.
I wonder about people on shows, because I've done a couple shows where they can't really edit you to do anything you didn't do,
but they can edit things that you've done.
And I wonder how many of these villain quote characters.
And it could be people that are on the show now
or it could be like a famous one,
like Amarosa, way back on The Apprentice.
Like there are famous villains that the producers convinced them to do that.
And if there was later a regret,
or if they're so self-aware that they knew what they were doing
and they just knew that was probably the way to get famous.
I think it's a combination of all those things.
And, you know,
if it's something like,
if it's something like the, I think,
I'm speaking on behalf of the Bachelor producers,
where there's no prize, right?
I mean, the prize, it's a dating game,
and it's an unhinged dating game,
but it's a dating game,
and there's no actual money, right?
So on, but when you're giving away real money,
the game show police are not joking around.
And because of that whole quiz show scandal way back when,
where that great Ray Fine's movie was made about it.
But when they're like so our like the producers want you to like we want people to be into
the games and participate obviously we want them to participate in the competition.
But like when it comes to the when it's real money, we can't, you know, we can't really tell
them to do certain things.
So because the prize is like 200 grand.
So, uh, which is a lot of money.
And so yeah, in those situations, you can't.
can't influence. And I'll have, I have an earwig in that they say you can't lead anybody,
you can't tell them what to do and stuff like that. So it's, yeah, so all the games are
pre-tested. I learned that whatever I did Dancing with the Stars, that they really could not help us,
or even when I was, because I did American Idol for four years, we could give nobody anything.
It was like second grade. If you bring candy for one kid, you got to bring it for everybody.
Like we had to make sure because there was money, record deals, or when I was competing, dancing,
they could give us nothing that everybody else didn't get
and they were so stringent about it.
The game show police are,
they know all the rules of,
it's the like all the rules of life.
Like they,
like they are good at enforcing these crazy rules.
I mean,
God bless them.
Because they,
I would,
I would be like,
here,
just take,
just everyone.
Let's just all share,
let's go.
But,
yeah,
they're not,
did you ever see that movie?
quiz show way back when. I did. Yeah, and I got fined a million bucks by the FCC a few years ago.
And so I learned, like, I've not only seen the movie and understood it, I have a relationship
with the FCC now that I don't love. So I'm very familiar with how that world works.
You were fined a million dollars? I was, yes. What did you do? I'm sorry that I don't know.
No, it's okay. It's not something that I talk about a lot, but I'm happy to share. No, no,
I'm not scared of it. I've already been through all the court proceedings and all the money's been paid,
so I'm all good.
But so one of my jobs, I do a nationally syndicated radio show.
And so I was doing some stand-up in Dallas, and I was working from a studio down there.
And it was the night of the World Series and the Nationals were playing on the World Series.
I'm a big sports guy.
And so there was a home run hit during one of the games.
And as the ball was traveling out of the stadium, they tested the EAS alert.
They literally tested it as a home run was being hit.
So imagine you're watching the World Series, and it's like, all right, three, two,
going, going.
This is a test of the E.
And I couldn't believe that that's when they tested it.
So I'm on the air.
It was a really stupid bit.
I went over to YouTube and I grabbed a clip that was readily available on YouTube.
And I just started doing other famous moments interrupted by the EAS practice alert.
So I was like, one small step for a minute.
This is a test of the EAS.
or four score and seven, okay, dumb bit, kind of funny, move on with the day.
Apparently, the sound that I had taken was an active EAS tone that locked up multiple cities.
So radio stations all over the country had now fired off the alert.
ATTV had locked up.
What I didn't know is that I had taken control of all these radio stations,
and I didn't know that there was a tone at the end that releases them.
So they all stayed locked up for eight hours because I never released the tone.
So I got fined a million bucks.
Good Lord.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tell me about it.
I don't even know that that is, I don't even think.
Good Lord.
That, were you ever told about that early in broadcasting?
No.
By the way, this certain tone is going to unlock the Jason Bourne.
Deploy the asset into the field if they just hear a weird noise.
Not only did they not teach me about that.
I took it from a public site.
Like, hide that thing.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
You don't just walk around with the codes of the football, you know, for the nuclear.
Like, hide that stuff that matters.
But yeah, yeah.
So I was very familiar with how the FCC and how the quiz show finds work.
Wait, if I played that tone on our broadcast right now, then we could be, not, but we could be fined.
No, because they changed them every.
year or two and then two
this was on a broad
I was on like two in 200 cities at the same time
and I fired that thing off through towers
I didn't know
and so yeah life sucked
for a life sucked for a little bit there
I got this friend
his old comedian friend from the night
he used to do radio
for years and years and years
whenever there'd be a home run call
and he was running the board
he would always insert other sound effects
that people, that he would put in cows and machine guns and World War II airplane sounds.
They're like, that's bye, bye baseball.
And never address it.
See, that's the stuff I think is funny right there.
Like, retro shout out to your buddy who used to do that.
Pat Cashman, Pat Cashman, who was the voice of Bill Nye, the Science guy, way back when.
You mean the voice of the television show, like talking into, like that voice?
Yeah, he'd be like, oh, Bill, Bill, my other son's guy, yeah.
I have a bunch of friends, I live in Nashville, and so I have a bunch of friends that are in the country music industry, and they played sports at a high level, and during sports at a high level, which they played, but a lot of them did not start as quarterback or as running back, but they had a position on the team, but they took up music, and they would start to play music while they were doing whatever sport it is.
mostly it was football, sometimes it was baseball.
When did you start doing and being funny to where you thought you could do it?
Was it while you were playing sports?
Oh, no.
Well, thank you for saying that because there's a lot of people that to this day disagree
that I've ever told a funny joke, but that shows my deep insecurity.
No, it was, I think, boy, I was such a bad student.
and the only thing I was good at was sports
and then I would do a school play
and I was like, oh, this is super fun.
And this is great.
And that's kind of how I escaped being.
I also got held back, so I was embarrassed about that.
So I just overcompensated by telling jokes
and throwing and chasing balls.
everywhere because that's yeah I'm like a basically a large golden retriever so I think the first the
first time I was ever on stage was when I was a first grader and I did a staged version of it's a small
world the ride from Disney this was at a public school which there's an actual play out there
of that ride all world and I played all the
little parts. I play and and that was yeah that would that was when I was like oh this is this seems like
this seems like so much fun and so I was like I'm gonna I mean it wasn't basically until seventh grade that I was
like I'm gonna try and do this until somebody stops me and I just yeah I just was like I can't I don't
want a real job what kind of numbers did you put up as a high school ball player oh I'm I was
I walked on, well, when I went, when I played college football, I walked onto the team and I had only played freshman year because I quit to be in plays.
So walking on, I was recruited to row at the University of Washington.
And that didn't go great because the university at that point, the University of Washington, at the rowing,
team had tons of hazing. I mean, this is a long, I know I'm backing into this a very strange way,
but they, I quit the team because the senior rowers surrounded another freshman and I and
began to hit us. So it was 11 on 2, really great. And they had all these crazy rituals, which
they've now gotten rid of, thankfully, like they would shave everybody's hair and eyebrows off
and put their hair into a pillow. Yes, I know what I'm saying.
All sounds very strange.
And then there was a display case of the hair pillows like a freaking serial killer.
So then I knew a few guys on the football team, Damon Heward, Mark Bruner.
And I was like, or I knew Mark afterwards, but like Damon was and Ernie Conwell were in my fraternity.
Also a short-lived place for me.
But I ended up being friends with those guys.
And then I was like, I'm going to come out for football.
And they're like, all right.
And so I played for two years and didn't really, I did not know what I was doing that first year.
And then the second year, they redshirted me.
And then I left to go do theater.
So it was all very, so I looked really good in that photo, the Rose Bowl photo.
But I actually never played in a game.
And so that's why I was, I was always, I was always referred to myself as the greatest practice.
of all time.
It's wild that you really didn't play in high school.
I work for the NFL and I do a show with Matt Castle who played for USC, but he never
started in college, not a single game.
And you went to the NFL and he had a pretty good career in the NFL.
But your story is crazier of not playing in high school at all and then you end up walking
on because they don't just let you.
I mean, freshman year, freshman year I played, which, uh, freshman year.
That doesn't count.
That's ninth grade.
That's like three years since you going to college.
Like that's wild.
It was not smart.
And the tight end coach was like, he was very confused,
and he was like, I'm not going to put you in
because I think you're going to get killed.
And so then I began practicing a lot,
and I knew I was getting better.
I wasn't great at all.
But then they began putting me in like spring games and stuff,
and that was super fun.
And I mean, those guys were.
you know they're the best of their entire like they're the best in their high school ever and so I was
just trying to avoid getting killed which was a really good motivator but I was like I'm a good athlete
and so like I was good on the basketball team and stuff like that but yeah no it's not it's
not a recommended journey to to athletic greatness but boy it it it was
was it really taught me i know the sound now i was like but it taught me i was like oh these guys are
working harder than anybody i know i was like these guys this is a full-time job what these guys are
doing and it is dangerous and uh so when you know players started getting paid i was like great yeah
these guys are building this school and so yeah that's a long it's a long my long meandering
explanations but yeah it um who would yeah i look back on it now i'm like you were insane
same. And yeah, so it's crazy.
Whenever you moved down to Los Angeles, did you finish school and then move and did you do
the whole thing when you could find a crappy apartment, start from the ground up?
Well, I was very lucky because I got on to, well, I married, well, now it's gosh, I married
my wife, Sarah. And she was very, I was before I was ever on TV and I got on to a TV show
in the 90s called Almost Live, which is where Bill Nye started.
where it was syndicated on Comedy Central.
John Keister was the host of it,
and it was a odd thing.
It was like nothing else in the nation like it.
It was a locally produced sketch comedy show
on the NBC affiliate,
and we would push Saturday Night Live to 1205,
because it was taped from the East Coast, obviously.
So we had these huge numbers.
So it was like this big hit in Seattle,
and nowhere else.
And I got on that show.
And so I was so lucky.
And then, so I left that show,
went to graduate school for acting at the University of Washington.
Go dogs.
And then I had to make a decision in 2000 to go to L.A. or New York.
And I decided on L.A.
just because I really knew I wanted to be on TV and be in movies if I could.
and my wife supported me.
And so we got this apartment and I had no job and she worked in graphic design.
And, you know, it was like 2004, it was four years later, the soup finally, well, that finally, but the soup got on.
And then about five years, a year after that, it started really working.
So I got really lucky.
I got lucky that I got on TV, but I had, you know,
My wife supported me through all of that.
So she, I, yeah, I mean, every, she's, she's very patient.
And now, because I was five, we, I said, just give me five years in L.A.
to see if I can make it work.
And if not, then I'll go back to, we'll go back to Seattle and I'll, you know,
I don't know what I'll do, but I'll figure it out.
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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever.
I didn't think I was going to live.
I was terrified.
There was no
anything inside those eyes.
They turned black.
It scared the hell out of me.
That was your first murder case?
Yes, sir.
Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career?
Yes, sir.
Rape a murder for a child.
She's as bad as it gets.
I would think so.
Evil, wake up.
I'm the one that saw the murder
take place by Crevette and DePippo.
Anthony DePippo.
showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.
I said, I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grief.
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A lot of artists when they move here to Nashville,
they do have those years where they're trying to figure it out
and they're meeting their people
and kind of understanding they're doing songwriting nights.
And like what is that for an actor when they moved to L.A.?
Like those four years, what are you doing in order to find your place?
They're, I mean, obviously, you know, like there's no,
the paths are all crazy.
And I couldn't the path to get to some kind of like, oh, it's working.
It's successful and is all over the map.
So I joined a couple of theater groups and was like, I just want to work.
I just want to perform.
So I joined this theater group called Circle X, which is a bunch of actors from Seattle.
And it was avant-garde theater to, like they were like, we're only doing crazy plays.
So I was doing some insane plays down here.
And I was doing improv at a couple different places, including Improv Olympic with a guy named Shane Nickerson and Regan Burns.
And then I joined Acme Theater.
So I was doing everything I could.
And it's the thing where you're like, if I can just perform a little and get out there.
And I couldn't get an agent.
So I finally got a commercial agent, aka, and they took, they were like, they almost didn't take me.
And I'm like, had all this tape from Seattle.
And they're like, it doesn't matter here.
And I couldn't get an agent.
And but this commercial agency, God bless them.
I began doing commercials.
And I thought, I'm 33.
And I can't get an audition.
and I was like, and I was like, I'll just be the greatest commercial actor of all time.
And that's so I'm like, I'm going to do that until somebody stops me.
And it wasn't until after the soup, really, that I got an agent.
I was already on TV when I finally signed with an agency.
There was an agent that I signed with that they dropped me right after.
But there, so I got down.
here to LA we called down here because uh and I immediately very luckily got on the show then this
sounds different than what but I got my friend got me an audition for will and grace but you had to be
over six seven and I'm like six three six four depends on what the humidity humidity is and I wore
heels to this audition I literally went to the like to a motorcycle boot shop and bought
huge healed boots.
And I thought, I think I'm going to be the funniest guy over 6-8 here.
And I got this little part.
It worked.
And that's when, so I signed it.
Like, I got an agent through that.
And they immediately dropped me because they said I wasn't working enough.
So then finally the soup started working four years later.
And yeah, then I'm what was called hip-pocketed at an agency where they, this
my friend who I went to high school with he's like he was an agent there and he's like look I cannot
sign you because no one's going to be excited about you here so I'm going to send you auditions
here and there if I can and so that work that ultimately worked and I went so I was paying this agency
even though I was not signed with them and so they took me to lunch to sign me a year after
the soup was already on
And so to make up for the commission, I was already paying them.
I just started buying things on the menu.
And I bought an eight pound lobster.
And I think I bought like two bottles of wine to go.
So I was like, this makes up for what I've been paying you guys.
But anyway, that was, it's hard.
Now when I look back, I'm like, good Lord, that was 20 years ago.
Like, I didn't have, I have a 21-year-old and a 17-year-old.
And I'm like, where did the time go?
What happened?
How did the suit come together then?
How did it come about if you didn't?
didn't have an agent pointing you in a direction.
Well, I had this commercial agent,
and they were getting me out to like,
I did Burger King ads, I did a McDonald's ad,
I did a bunch of spots for a million different things,
and that was working.
But they, this woman named Annie Roberts, who worked at E,
she would see actors in commercials.
And then she would be like,
she would contact my like my commercial agent and be like can you bring in these six actors and we're
going to have them do talking head stuff for like ease he's 101 nightclub whoopsies and they'd be like
here's i don't know here here's bono coming out of a club in new york his shirts untucked make a comment
And I started doing stuff like that.
And then there was a, it wasn't called the soup when it started, but they were like, we want to do a show about make fun of reality shows.
And we want to do something like that, but not the soup because talk soup was had been canceled by then.
And then we, so this show was called the what the awards.
Yes, it's the worst title for a show you've ever heard because it was supposed to be what the hell or the what the fuck awards.
and they dropped that word out.
But it didn't make, when you would hear the title,
you'd be like, what the, wait, what is it?
And so then the new president came in, Ted Harbor,
and he was like, what, what is the title of this show?
And so we had been on the air for a few months,
and he came in, changed the name.
And at that point, you young, I know that you're younger than me,
much younger, but that's, we were on,
they put us on Saturday nights, I mean, excuse me,
Friday nights at 10 when nobody was watching TV.
no one was watching cable and we just slowly watered that little piece of the garden we had and it started
working and i think it was because of i mean there's a lot of reasons but like julia roberts
whom i've never met in my life in an e interview this reporter came up to me at e and said hey uh
julia roberts told me that she watches your show every week but but don't she was like she said it
offhandedly, like after the interview, and she was like, oh, I watched that, I watched that
soup show.
And I think I heard that and we're like, fuck, Julia Roberts watch it.
Great.
And then, I've never met her.
I don't.
So, Julia, if you're out there listening, if you're out there watching, thank you.
Thank you so much.
And I would love to do a sequel to my best friend's wedding or whichever one.
Was there a point where you started to get recognized a little bit to where you started to realize
there was some traction happening?
Yeah, yeah, it took a little, there was a couple of TV writers, but I remember I was at a restaurant, a Roma, here in Studio City, sitting at a table, and I remember hearing a person go, hey, we got a clip on the soup.
So it was clearly the producer of some reality show or news or like whatever we were, and they were like, hey, we got on the,
the soup and I was like, what, what's happening?
So that was pretty good.
And then I did an event, like, it was working, but I was at an event that Elvis Costello was at.
And I'm a gigantic Elvis Costello fan.
And he was like, oh, you're the guy that tells the jokes.
And I was like, yeah, that's me.
Yeah, yeah.
He just got recognized by Elvis Castello.
Can't believe it.
So that's, yeah, there was slowly, slowly but sure, yeah.
It was good because it was never a hit out of the, like I've never, like community was not a hit out of the box.
Soup was not a hit.
I've never been on anything that, like that, like a TV show where it was like, oh, your glee, your modern family.
You're, it is, you are a bona fide hit out of the gate.
and this is going forever.
So, yeah, my Catholic guilty upbringing
stop me from being in anything like that.
Will there ever be a community movie?
Yeah.
Yeah, at some point, yeah.
We have the money.
And so it's, I know that now people don't believe anything
when they ask it now,
but it, we have all agreed and we all,
it is going to happen if all,
the schedules line up. I swear to you, community fans, and everyone wants to do it. So we're, yeah,
I mean, I might be, I mean, I might be too old to do it, but that's fine. That's fine.
I can, I'll find, we'll get somebody to play me. The season finale of Animal Controls,
April 23rd, and it was just announced it's renewed for another season. So that's,
your fifth season's coming? That's a long run now. Yeah, I can't believe it on a network. I can't,
Like, you know, the whole model has changed.
So thank you, Fox.
And yeah, it was a little show that could.
And the first season, I think the numbers were okay.
And then they hung in there with it.
And now it's doing pretty well.
And I'm like, thank God.
So yeah, it's same thing with, that's how community was.
Like the first season was like, okay, it's pretty good.
It's doing it.
Okay.
and we just slowly but surely wore people down and got them to watch it.
Can you tell by who's coming up to you what they know you from before they tell you what they know you from?
Yes, you can tell by the age.
Give me a few differences.
Women in their 40s and 50s remember me from the soup.
And when young kids walk up to me, I was like, oh, this is a community fan.
they'll go, no, no, you were shaggy, right, in Scooby-Doo.
I was like, that's Matthew Lillard.
Ironically, Matthew and I were just in a movie together.
So, Scream 7, go see it, guys.
But, yeah, I used to tell Matthew knew the bit I used to do,
because when I get on these red carpets, the photographers early on would be like,
who are you?
And then I'd be like, Matthew Lillard, and then I started populate,
My picture started going on his gattie images all the time.
And we do, like when we're standing next to each other, we're pretty similar looking
in the same height.
And yeah, so I still do that bit.
And he's like, bro.
And so, yeah, we just, it's, yeah.
When did you start getting recognized?
I could always tell if it was family, like a mom and a kid, it was from American Idol.
Because I did four years on American Idol.
If it was an older woman, it was from dancing with.
the stars when I did that show. If it was a female 24 to 40, it would be from radio or podcast,
one of the two. And if it was rarely a dude, but I work for the NFL as well, but sometimes I'll
get a dude that just knows me as the guy that works with Matt Castle, the quarterback. So they
don't even really know. I'm just that guy that worked. Hey, you're the guy that works with Matt
Castle. And I'm like, that I am. If you take off your glasses,
Like, have you been in a place where, like,
because your glasses are very, like, distinct to you,
will people not recognize you if you're not wearing the glasses?
Usually it's, are you Matthew Lillard?
And I say, yes, I am.
And that is.
That's, my, you know, Chris Minst, Plas?
He played McLevin.
I do, yeah.
Yeah.
He, I did a show with him 10 years ago.
And he has become close friends with,
a writer that I work with Boyd Vico
every time I can work with him
and Brad Stevens' partner
and we're working
they're working on animal control and on
1% club and
and House of Villains but
they Christmas Plas
he's obviously very recognizable
and they were in a
casino together
and it was kind of after
it was pretty recently and
Chris was wearing a mask
and Boyd was like
how come are you sit what's going on he was like they're in this casino he goes well you'll see
and he took his mask off in this casino and he was if there was like this radar went up
people they all had the mclovin license in their wallets and he was like see see and it became the signing
that's funny i love one percent club i love game like i love competition shows but i love like like logic
puzzle shows. Like, that's fun, and that looks like it'd be a fun show to host. Can you knock
go those out in a couple weeks? We did two shows a day, and it's, and three shows. I mean, it's
not like, like, Wheel of Fortune, they can crank out like five a day because, you know,
because it's pretty well, it's pretty contained. But 1% Club is 100 contestants each show. So that's,
that's where the challenge comes in is bringing all those people in at once. And, but, but it, but it
goes pretty quick once the game gets going.
And like as you,
as we've already talked about,
the game show police are very strict on like the time.
You get 30 seconds.
That's it.
You get to figure out the puzzle.
And half the time,
I mean,
my wife's really good at puzzles like that.
And so is one of my sons.
And I am terrible.
So you don't get to see.
They don't usually include the parts where I'm like,
don't listen to me.
I'm going to screw up the words.
Just read the puzzle.
And you'll, you'll just do that.
Don't listen to me.
And so they don't really include that stuff.
But, but, but yeah, those, they're super hard.
And yeah, it's a really fun show to do.
And it's, those folks, they're so quick.
And it, like, I was like, oh, you guys have different brains.
This, I have a crazy ADHD, silly brain.
And you guys have, you guys can build a bridge.
You guys can actually get.
Final question for you.
as far as other celebrities that are really funny when they're not on camera.
Like, who's really funny that's a celebrity that's funny all the time, no matter where you see them?
I think, well, this is, I think, I think, ooh, this is a good, this is a good one.
I'm trying to think of someone who's on a, boy, I'm really taking my time.
I mean, he's already really funny.
I'm trying to think of somebody who you would not expect to be.
This is a good one.
Here's what I'll say.
Oh, yeah.
Well, this is, everyone knows he's funny, but I don't think the scope.
I mean, obviously his talent is world, world class talent, generational talent.
But Donald Glover is the full.
funniest guy.
You, like, he,
he's childish Gambino, man. And so
he's got this whole other part of his brain where he
is a musical genius and
incredible singer.
But obviously, he got his start while he was
NYU and he started writing for 30
rock while he was still like a
RA in a dorm.
And I, the scope of his
ability, like he was always the funniest
one on set. Who are you, who are you going to
say but you pulled back because they're already funny oh i was going to be like well someone like
john oliver or conan or set or uh kimill they're so funny in person like they're so good and
uh they're and they're not they're not guys that are always on and i mean obviously they
host shows where they are funny and they're them but it always kind of takes my breath away i'm like
Good Lord. How do they do it?
The Animal Control finale is April 23rd.
Again, congrats on the new season.
House of Villains.
1% Club comes out in April.
April 13th.
I got a list.
Hey, I'm going down the list right now.
Hold on.
House of Villains finale is April 16th.
And the 1% Club, April 13th.
All of those.
I got there.
See, you just got to give me a second.
A little patience.
It shows my insecurity.
Joe, really appreciate the time.
I'm a big fan. I hope you have a great rest of the day. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me. And what's the best restaurant in Nashville that I should go to?
Yeah, it's tough because people that come to Nashville, they want to do like southern.
And when you live in Nashville, like, that's normal food. And if I tell you an Italian place that I really like called Luogo,
you'd be like, there's a good Italian in Nashville, but then I would have to admit that I own it.
And then I'd have to be like, well, then I lied to you and told you it was good only because I own it.
So, La Wogo.
Go to La Wole. Okay. That's where I'm going to go.
That's it. All right. Hey, Joel, good to see you, man. Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
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