The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Labor & Delivery Nurse Jen Hamilton Shares Birth Stories, Judging Bobby for Not Cutting the Cord & New Mom Advice

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

Labor & Delivery Nurse Jen Hamilton joins Bobby to share what life is really like inside the delivery room, from the birth stories that stay with her to the advice every first-time mom should hear. She opens up about postpartum, swaddling, umbilical cord complications, and why she judged Bobby for not cutting the cord. Jen also shares what it’s like getting recognized in the hospital, the longest induction she’s ever been part of, and the moments that make labor and delivery unpredictable, emotional, and unforgettable. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I told some of my friends that I had Jen Hamilton coming on and they freaked out. She's that popular. And her whole goal is to pull back the curtain on what really happens in the delivery room. She has a new book out now called Birth Vives. And it's all about ditching the perfect birth plan and learning how to actually advocate for yourself when things maybe don't go the way that you expected. And so we're going to talk about a lot of that. And I just had a baby.

And again, I cannot emphasize to you how excited. so many of my friends were about this interview, and you'll see, she's awesome. We talk labor surprises, postpartum realities, and the biggest myths about birth, and let's do it now. Here she has the great, the funny, the hilarious, the knowledgeable, Jen Hamilton. Hey, Jen, I'm Bobby. How are you? Hey, Bobby, nice to see you. I'm going to start with, we just had a baby, first baby. Congratulations.

Thank you. We're six weeks, six, six week baby, very, very small baby. You're in it. You're in it right now. Yeah, we're in it, which is how you came into my world is my wife is a massive fan and we were, you know, just talking about what I found interesting. And she said, you should really talk to Jen Hamilton because I have to tell you, I have a fascination now with labor and delivery nurses because we had the greatest one. So that is still what you do, right? Is that your everyday job? Yeah, that's my everyday job. So I still work. I still do this stuff. And it's just like the thing that I love doing the most. We went into the hospital and I didn't really know what to expect other than what friends had told me. And I never realized

how important and how comforting a great labor and delivery nurse is because I thought we had all these appointments with the doctor. And the doctor was great. But the doctor just comes into the close. It's a closer. Like it's you guys that do all the work, all the main. making us feel comfortable, all the being there. I did not know that until this trip. And so we had the greatest labor and delivery nurse. And is it my first question to you, it's kind of a selfish one, if I wanted to send a gift up to her, because she was awesome.

Is that okay? Absolutely. I mean, I think that's something that I didn't expect whenever I kind of switched from ER to labor and delivery because we never got gifts in the ER. I'll tell you that. But, yeah, I think that it's such a nice thing to do. I'll tell you what means probably the most to her is if you have any pictures with her in it. I think that that's so, I love getting pictures of, you know, of me in action.

So if you have any pictures. And then also you can nominate her for like a Daisy Award. If, you know, if she really made your experience awesome. It's kind of like a way that labor and delivery nurses can get recognized. But then also, if you just want to give her something tangible, we do, we do like snacks and things. So sometimes people will do that. But you absolutely don't, I know that she would have me tell you, you don't have to do any of those things. But it's so nice that you're thinking about that.

Yeah, I don't feel like I have to. That's why I want to. I'm the kind of person. If I'm told I have to, then I definitely don't want to do it at all. Right. Yeah. She was such a game changer because, one, she was great for my wife, meaning it was always calm. Her bedside manner was amazing.

But when it was time, like business time, and I did a lot of learning. over the past six or seven months. I didn't even know what, you know, being dilated. I don't know any of that, right? Yeah. And so whenever it was like time to go, like 10 centimeters dilated, like she was like focused, business. Like she did the work.

Not that the doctor did it, but she was there the whole time from the beginning until the end. How many do you think you've done? Births? Yeah. Uh, man. I've been doing it for eight years and, you know, working every weekend. And so sometimes, and sometimes you're in births that it's not actually your patient either.

So maybe like at least three a day that I'm in. So I don't know. I don't even know the math on that. A whole bunch of babies for sure. I feel like everyone thinks their baby is cute. Are there cuter babies than others? I'll say that some babies have a rough ride, you know. They come into the world and they look a little.

Road Hard put up wet kind of thing. Sometimes they're a little swollen in their face or bruised or, you know, and then some babies just shoot out and they look like they, you know, were sent by an angel, you know. But, yeah, some babies have it rough coming in. You did ER before labor and delivery, not, and I understand it's not the same, but not the same at all.

Were you doing a completely different kind of anybody that comes in you were taking care of as a nurse? Yeah, so in the ER, I did not want to take care of anybody. who was pregnant because I was afraid that they were going to birth in front of me. And I knew nothing about that. So ER nurses are very allergic to pregnant people. Like we very much want them to go somewhere else. So being on labor and delivery, it was very much a learning curve and having to figure out this whole new specialty.

But that's, I think the beauty of nursing is that you can go from doing one thing to doing something completely different, but still have the same degree. Whenever you started doing labor and delivery, did it feel like something that you had always been meant to do? Or was it something you were good at? I think it was something that I didn't expect to be good at. Whenever I was in nursing school, I remember on my labor and delivery clinical thinking, like, this sure is a wet place to work. You know, that was what I remembered most is like, holy cow, there's a lot of fluid here. So I wasn't particularly like excited about it whenever I was in nursing school. And me going from the ER to labor and delivery was really honestly just trying to escape the ER

because it was just so emotionally, physically everything a lot. And so I think that going into labor and delivery was something that I was unexpectedly excited that I was okay at because I think that what I was looking for was that connection that I had with people that I didn't really get to do in the ER. Do you feel the need to make it special for every person even though you're doing three a day and to you it is not just a job, but you're doing a lot of them so they all aren't so precious but to make sure they know how precious it is. Like is that something you have to do?

I absolutely feel it's such an honor to be with every single person. And I really take it seriously in order to make it special for especially the people who may feel neglected or like that they wouldn't normally get that experience. So for instance, someone who doesn't speak English. One of the things that I love to do is I give every patient that I care for promises. And one of those promises is I promise to speak to you in the same. same way that I would, someone who speaks my language so that you feel cared for as a friend. So I know that the interpreters where I work sometimes get a little probably frustrated with me because I don't just want to know like, how is your pregnancy?

Do you have any medical problems? I want to know, like, what's your favorite color? Like, what do you like to eat? What do you like to do? So that I can make that experience as special for them as I possibly can. Have you had people come in and you were their nurse? And they knew who you were from social media? Oh, it happens so often.

Now, whenever it first started happening, it was kind of like that moment where I was like, oh, man, this is real. Like, I, you know, there's a lot of people who know me now. But now I'd have to say that in all the rooms that I go in, because I'm also a charge nurse and I work in the O. Like, I work in a lot of different places. I'd say that there's at least three patients that I'll see at some point in my day that do recognize me.

And I find that such an honor, like, to see on the back end, like the effect that, you know, me talking about labor and delivery has on people in real life. And so it's such an honor to meet these people. How did it start for you online? Oh, yeah. So in the pandemic time, I had a lot of boredom. And I was just trying, I mean, I think we were all kind of just like homesome. schooling our kids at home and really bored. And so I had a friend that said, hey, why don't you

download TikTok? Like, this is a really fun app. And I really didn't have any interest in downloading another app because I was already too much online. But since we had a pandemic, I was like, okay, I'll do that. So I first just wanted to be just watching videos. And then my very first video was me pressing the plus button to see what that was all about at the bottom. But it never started with labor and delivery either. I just kind of started making silly videos about being a mom or being a nurse. And then I recognized how many patients were getting their prenatal education from TikTok. And I saw the effects of when they were getting that from somebody who maybe didn't have

their best interest at heart. And then thought if they're getting it from TikTok, I might as well be here helping them. So I started talking more about labor and delivery too. Did you have a specific video that popped off the most that made you feel like there is something to this that you can help people? Well, I think that the videos that have popped off along the way definitely are videos that maybe didn't have a lot to do with labor and delivery, but then they helped me find people who needed some labor and delivery content. So I think that one of them was me swaddling my chickens because I like to swaddle things as a labor and

delivery nurse. So, you know, one of those videos had like, I don't know, 43 million views or something crazy. And so a lot of people find me in other ways that don't have to specifically do with the labor and delivery education of it. But then they're like, oh, she also does this other thing. So I did a poll on my Instagram, I was like, hey, how many of you guys follow me because of labor and delivery? And then how many of you follow me for something else? And it was like, the split was like 13% labor and delivery, 87% something else. So like other people find me mostly through other things and then figure out later that I do labor and delivery. I see a lot of things about parenthood now that I am a brand new dad in my algorithm. And we swaddle our baby and

she loves it, but I will see people say swaddling is bad because it restrains them. We don't subscribe to that, but what are your thoughts on that? So I think everything in moderation, there's new stuff coming out right now that says that swaddling is not the most awesome. However, it is cute. It is very cute. And sometimes it can help your baby to at least be soothed or comforted, like if they're not having a great time.

I think that as long as you're not like, you know, swatling every moment of every day, you know, I think that there can be some nice stuff with it, too. I'd say we're probably about a total 30 minutes a day in the swaddle. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes they just like to, I like to be swaddled, you know. Somebody swaddled me. I was watching a video that I thought was really compelling, pretty moving, and someone had, I guess, left a message for you or maybe in DMs.

about postpartum, they weren't doing well. And again, I have no experience with this until the last few weeks or so. So I've actually been talking about it with my friends too, and I have one friend whose wife was extremely depressed. We've been very fortunate. As my wife's been very emotional postpartum, but hers has been very, very, very positive. Like so happy that it makes her very, very emotional. I guess my question is with someone who deals with it a lot, is it just a crap shoot on what's going to happen after? have the baby? It really just honestly depends. And you never know how it's going to affect

you until you meet yourself postpartum. I'll say that I think, at least in my personal perspective, I think that there's a lot of postpartum depression and anxiety that begins from not having an awesome birth experience or one that you truly understand or having a lot of questions around what happened to you. So I try to do my part with the patients that I take care of and not only making sure that they fully understand what's happening, that they have autonomy over their choices and over their body, but also helping them understand what things they may experience in the postpartum period as far as looking for those signs of, you know, those intrusive thoughts and sometimes you think of things that you never ever thought you would like what if

I put my baby in the freezer like of course that's something you're not going to act on but it could be if if you kind of let these things linger so I let that kind of be like the the trigger to say hey I'm having thoughts that I never thought that I would or like if you feel like you're not even able to relax or you're not able to to feel joy. in these moments that you feel like you, that you normally would, that letting your people around you know how you're feeling, especially letting your care team know how you're feeling, and that there are resources available for people. One of the resources that my sister had to use was something called Postpartum Support

International or PSI. They have an incredible network of resources to help new moms who are struggling with these feelings, be able to get connected. to those resources and find a way out because yes, postpartum depression and anxiety and sometimes even psychosis does affect a lot of people, but it doesn't mean that it has to take hold and become such a huge part of your life. There are resources and the sooner that you recognize that you're feeling off and the sooner you get help, the sooner you can feel better.

Is that something too where if you go and you're pursuing medication that there's not like a single medication that fixes it, right? Is it something that at times you may have to bounce around until you find the right thing? Yeah. I mean, there's definitely some that they can start with or that are more popular than others. But the beauty of getting help is that your care provider can work with you to figure out what the right combination, if there is a combination or the right medication, the right resources that are available. so that you can find what works for you. It's not always a one-size-fits-all. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

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Stay close. It is a carac. Listen to learning to be human on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back on the Bobbycast. We were talking about your book. So when did you decide you wanted to write a book? And how do you know where to start?

Oh, that's a good question. I didn't know that I wanted to write a book. And it wasn't until I had publishers reaching out saying, like, hey, we think you should write a book. that I kind of, my first reaction was like, I don't even write in a journal. I don't know that you want me to write a book. And through that process, I had a friend, I had a few friends that had written books and kind of got me with the right people to kind of have my back through this process.

And I wrote a sample. And so that sample was just like one chapter of a book that I hoped to write. And through that, being able to kind of. think about stories that I would want to tell or themes that I would want people to know. And it was so cathartic in being able to write down things that had actually happened to me in real life. Of course, everything is like HIPAA compliant, but these are all real things that I've experienced as a nurse. But being able to write those down and be able to get those out of my head. I feel like is a form of therapy for me. And then also, my publisher giving me the freedom

to talk in my book, how I talk in real life. It was so awesome because like one of the first things that I had written in my book that got edits back. So what I would do is like I would write a chapter. And then I'd send it to a book coach who would go through and kind of edit it for you know, grammar and structure and everything. And one of the first edits I got back from her was that I had written titties in the wind and she crossed it out and put naked. And I was like, absolutely not. Absolutely not.

It is tities in the wind. Okay. So I write how I talk. I write how I talk to my patients. And so having a publisher that could see past like the formality, the professionalism of what you might normally see in a health care book to be able to talk to people how I normally do was so awesome and so freeing. So I'm very happy with what we ended with. Where did you grow up? I'm in North Carolina. So I've always been born, raised here in Central North Carolina.

And where did you go to college, nursing school? I went to Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, which has a lot of controversy around it. Is that the fallout? Is that the fallout? Yes. I'm not like them. Okay. I need to say that. Were you there when that happened? I was there when the little one, Falwell Jr. when he took over. Okay. And I knew that when we, so every week we'd have to go to church like three times a week. That was mandatory. So Monday, Wednesday, Friday called convocation, we'd have to go there. So I get there and broke it up in front to everybody and says to the boys, look around. If you can't find a wife here, you're a loser. I was like, oh, this is different. So I knew there was some weirdness going on from the jump,

but you never know to, like, if you ever watch those documentaries or listen to the podcast about it, who. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the hobbies. That's the pull boys thing, right? Yeah, the pool boy. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's wild. Did you meet your husband? husband there? I met my husband at Victory Junction camp. Have you ever heard of it? No. So it's a it's a camp for kids with chronic and terminal illnesses and we were both camp counselors there. It's a NASCAR camp. So it's it was made by Richard Petty's son, Kyle Petty in honor of their of Kyle Petty's son, Adam. And it's like Disney World. So I mean, the amount of time and money. and resources that's put into this camp gives these kids that wouldn't normally have like a summer

camp experience because they have cancer or diabetes or kidney failure. It gives them a medically safe summer camp environment. And it was amazing. I worked there for three years and that's where I met my husband and then found out that we actually went to school together. As in what school, high school college? As in Liberty. As in that place. So he did look around. did find a wife, just maybe not at school. He did. He did. It wasn't exactly there, but we went back there. What is his relationship with your notoriety now? He's such like a private guy. And the other thing is, I have never wanted to or tried to put my family out in the wilderness like I am. So he interacts

with my social media stuff in the way of like silent support in the background. You know, like he he listens to me he goes with me to my stuff um but he is very much like protector and uh quiet support in the background but he is definitely not a forefront guy i know you guys when you're doing your job you're you're dialed in you're focused have you had an incident uh i want to say incident an instance that it was so positive that it made you emotional oh for sure all the time, all the time. And not just, you know, at work, because like at work, I'll have those moments all the time. Something that really gets me is when the dads cry, oh, so sweet. Especially if you have a dad that's like really stoic the whole day and then the baby

comes out and they start boo-hooing, gets me. But then also like seeing people out in the wild who have interacted with my social media stuff, if there's anything that they had happened to them, that I help them through and hearing their stories. It's so, I mean, what an honor it is to hear people's stories when they have had something that I said impact them in any way. And I'm sure you've done it all, but when a baby's coming out the opposite way. Is that breached? Is that breach?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a few different ways that they can come out. But breach is the, is the butt first or feet first. So when that's happening, how does protocol change? well a lot of obies in our country

are not as comfortable with a baby coming out that way if you've had a baby before vaginally and their breach you may be able to find a doctor who's like hey I'm okay with us attempting a vaginal delivery the the concern is that

the biggest part of a baby is their head so if you're coming out but first you can get every part of the baby out except for their head. And then obviously that's an emergency. But there's a lot of doctors who will go straight to, okay, your baby's breach work. We need to have a C-section. So I've been in plenty of vaginal breach deliveries.

I think they're beautiful and awesome. Of course, they come with risk. C-sections also come with risk. So it's just about having a confident OB provider who's going to help you through that process and being able to make the decision that's right for you. One of my friends is a singer named Lauren Elena and her and I were talking about her having her baby. And she said, and there's a clip of it, but she said when her baby was coming out that it was wrapped up completely in the umbilical cord, like around her leg, around the baby's neck. How common is that where that happens?

30%. Oh, it's that common. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of people who, you know, come in to the hospital with very traumatic stories of like, my baby last time. had the cord wrapped around its neck and it's so, so common. So I think that there can be some trauma from hearing like, because I think that people think that the baby's being strangled or choked in some way. And it's not necessarily that that's the danger.

It's how, so the umbilical cord is like the baby's hose of life, right? So it's got three vessels inside and think of it like a scrunchy. Okay, so like it's nice and fluffy here. If I pull it tight, then there's less, there's more constriction on those blood vessels, so they can't get the oxygenated blood through and the deoxygenated blood back. So it's more about how tightly wrapped that cord is, but 30% of babies have a cord wrapped somewhere. And usually what will happen is like baby's head comes out and if we feel, I say we, if the doctor or midwife feels that there's a cord right there around the neck,

what they'll do is they'll just gently untangle and usually all as well. I'm not saying that it can't be dangerous, right? So if they're tightly, tightly, tightly wrapped in there several times, or if the cord is really short and they're like basically bungee jumping from the placenta, like obviously that could be not awesome. but most of the time, if a baby has a cord wrap somewhere, it's not a huge deal. Can be, but not most of the time. Have you been a part of one where it was surprise twins?

No, but it did happen at my hospital one time. I wasn't in there, but it was somebody that came in with no prenatal care, and the first baby came out and they said, uh-oh. There's another one. Yeah, that's crazy. So what do you think, and you may not have a favorite. records on this. Have you had a, that's the fastest delivery we've ever had? Oh, man. I mean, yes. I mean, sometimes people come in and they're riding on one butt

cheek coming up and then they deliver like as soon as they get there. And it just comes out? Just comes out. I did have the fastest induction I ever had was someone who had been, sometimes you get put on hold, like if you're, if you're scheduled for an induction and the hospital doesn't have either the staff or the room. They'll leave you at home for your induction. But there was a girl that had something called a Foley balloon placed in the office to prepare her for her induction. It kind of just gets you going. Does it open? I learned about this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It helps open it up. And usually when you're like three to four ish centimeters, that folly balloon will fall out. And they tell you, all right, come to the hospital if it falls out because that means that you're, you know,

making change. Well, she came to the hospital for her scheduled induction and it was still in, but she looked like she was not having a good time. And she's like, get this thing out of me. I was like, okay. So I go to pull it out and I pull it out. I was like, oh my goodness, you probably feel so much better. And she's like, no. And then the baby came out right after the folly balloon. So it was just in there, not in place. And then the baby came out right after that. I was like, oh, okay, there's the baby. So the balloon was kind of clogging the hole until the baby was ready to come out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What about on the opposite side? Have you had any really long ones? Oh, man, yeah. The longest induction I ever had was five days. Yeah, five days and ended in a C-section. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I think that there's a lot of people who think that OBs are just itching to get you a C-section. In my experience, it can be the exact.

opposite. And sometimes, like, we're not doing them when you might expect someone to have a C-section. So a lot of the providers where I work will give you the best chance at a vaginal delivery that you can have while, you know, there's other, it just depends on the doctor, right? So sometimes you'll have a doctor that goes straight for that at the first sign of trouble, and then you have other doctors who will give you the biggest chance at a vaginal delivery. But yeah, that was a long one. I felt for. But you went home multiple times, right? You weren't there at beginning and end, right? Correct. Correct. Yeah. You're also toothpicking your eyes open to stay for five days. That would be crazy. Okay. One of my really good friends, Amy,

has asked me to ask you three questions. So these are from her. Number one, how did you get the best personality in the world? Oh my goodness. That's so sweet. I think that other people have much cooler personalities than I. That's so kind. I guess I have to attribute anything that I have to my my parentals. I think they did a good job. And then also ER trauma. I think that going through stuff kind of gives you a different kind of sense of humor that other people might not understand. So I think that going through stuff can also make you who you are. Number two, how excited were you to meet Dr. Beach Gym 10 on your book tour. I don't know who that is.

Oh my gosh. It hasn't happened yet. Okay. I'm so excited. So she is a TikTok pediatrician. She's lovely and I cannot wait to meet her. She's going to be like hosting one of my book tour stops. So I'm very excited.

The third question is tell her I'm sorry to hear about her grandmother. Loss is so hard. And her story about her hanging on for life for so many times made her smile on the inside and then cry because she doesn't know you, but she felt like she does. Oh, that is so sweet. Yeah. My grandmother, she passed away last year, but we called her a possum or the possum lady because this lady kept acting like she was going to die and then pulling through, but not just pulling through like, okay, I'm going to eat a Bojangles biscuit. You know, like she got kicked out of hospice. I don't know how often that happens, but like she was in the hospice house. They're like,

She's going to pass away tonight. She stayed there for months and they're like, okay, you've got to go. So, yeah, it was awesome to have that extra time with her. But yeah, we called her The Possible Lady. The Bobbycast, we'll be right back. Be Pride Months, Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space, to celebrate your existence. Iheart Radio is proud to be an official sponsor of Pride Toronto Festival and we won't stop.

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I think that, and this is kind of like a group of things, but I think that having understanding of different intervention choices that you may be offered can help you inform your decisions going forward. There's so many people who sign up for an induction who have no clue what that means. Sometimes I'll get somebody who signed up for an induction and they say, this is going to take like 20 minutes. And I'm like, oh, Lord, we are in trouble. Uh-oh. You have no idea what's about to happen to you.

So I think that having some basic understanding of both inductions and then also interventions that may be offered to you can help if that intervention gets offered. You kind of have some sort of basic understanding of it. So it's kind of like a group of things. How long do you think it takes? This is all general, but until after someone has a baby, they start to feel like themselves again. So individual, but for me, at least for me, I had preeclampsia with my second one, so I look like a sweaty Danny DeVito whenever I was having a baby. So the moment that I was unpreignant and began peeing out the fluid that had plagued me for so long, I felt like Julia Roberts and pretty woman. I felt amazing, almost immediately, to the point where my husband was like, damn, like, you all right?

I felt incredible. I may not have looked awesome, but man, I felt so good. But then in another pregnancy, it took me several weeks to feel like I could put pants on or, and they were still maternity pants. But I think, and I also have friends that take months to feel like themselves. and sometimes you just adapt to the new normal of what it means to be the new you. And it doesn't mean that that's anything wrong or bad, but sometimes there is some grief associated with learning who the new view is and kind of grieving the old you, whether that's your body or your lifestyle

or the things that you enjoyed before. Sometimes it just changes. You've got new things that you enjoy differently. Do you ever see parents semi-panicking when they have to leave because now they have to take the baby home? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because you've got a new human and we are now entrusting you to keep that human alive. And there's so much about being a new parent that you don't know, you know. And having to figure that out on your own is terrifying.

I remember even when I was I was an ER nurse and we're leaving the hospital. hospital and I'm like, y'all trust me to do this? Because I don't know anything about this. And yeah, I think that in other countries, there's a whole lot more support postpartum to kind of make sure that you're getting everything that you need. But in the U.S., we're like, here you go. Take it home. It's yours. Yeah, rub some dirt on it, get back to work. It's crazy. I never really had a full understanding of, I think, what a woman after she has birth should fairly get as far as being able to stay off work and be paid. Like we have a law that you can't be fired, but you're not getting paid.

And if you have to work hourly, like you're screwed. And also support. Like I never, as a dude, again, just had my first kid, but I never really thought paternity to leave was something. I knew it was something. I never really thought of something you needed. No, you really need good support there with you to help you for weeks. And you're right.

We are so far behind as a country when it comes to covering our citizens, maternity and paternity leave and I had no idea until we had a baby. Yeah. As a even, I mean, like I am a nurse and delivering at the hospital where I work, you know, whenever I had my baby, because I had to go out early, because I had preeclampsia, I burned through, you know, a few weeks of maternity leave and ended up having to go back at like four and a half, five weeks postpartum just because I needed to work to afford insurance. So I mean, and this is, I'm a nurse at the hospital where I have my baby. You know, it's so crazy that I needed to do that in this country where you would think that we have amazing, you know, care. And I think we have amazing care providers. We have amazing people that

want to give the care. But the system is just so broken that, you know, I have patients that say, I need to be discharged tomorrow because I have to go to work tomorrow. Like it's wild. But, you know, some people can't even take a day off of work without feeling like they need to get back in order to make money. Yeah, that's a whole conversation of, man, we sure do buy a lot of bombs, but we can't take care of our people with health care. Right. Right. That's a second podcast that we'd probably do.

So a couple of judgment things. I'd like for you to judge me on. One, I chose not to cut the cord. Because, okay, there's a judgment gas. The judgment already coming through. Okay, continue. Give me the reasoning. So they asked, would you like to cut the cord?

To which I responded, is there any literal benefit to me cutting this cord? They said no. I said, I choose not to feel metal going through human flesh, so I will not cut the cord. If you tell me there is something about this, for example, I did skin to skin because I learned. why that was important. I said, if there's something about cutting the cord that is a bond to my daughter and myself, I'm in. But if it's literally just me taking metal and going through human flesh, I'm out.

So I did not cut the cord. I will now accept your judgment. Okay. Do you regret it? Do you wish that you did? No, I don't want to cut through humans. I don't want to cut through skin. I don't know the bin.

It's not skin, though. It's just like, it's just a right of passage. It's meat. Okay. I'll give you that. If they would have said you need to chew through it so you can really feel the love, I would have chewed through it before I would have cut it with scissors, because at least chewing through it, it had been something primal.

Right. Yeah, I totally passed. How many dads pass on cutting the cord? More than you would think, but I do often talk them into it sometimes because I think that there's a lot of dads who aren't expecting that question or like we're thinking about it. And then we're like, okay, you've got the cord, you ready? and then they're like, whoa, whoa, that's not my job.

And then we, you know, encourage. So what I like to do is say, where's your phone? We're documenting this moment, you know? So I love to video that moment because it is sometimes funny because they're like, like making a face. But, you know, it can be a right of passage. We had a dad last week or the week before that was like, well, I didn't cut it with the last one. new tradition, right? You can cut it with this one.

So, but I'd say, five percent of dads turn us down. That's all? Yeah. Oh, wow. I'm very persuasive. What if I would have said, I will chew through the cord?

Is that allowed? I mean, I've never seen that happen. I think you would definitely get some looks. I mean, I don't think I can stop you from doing that. I might have my own thoughts. about that. I would keep them to myself. I'm all about informed and empowered decision making.

So even if you decide to do something that I wouldn't, I'd say, you do you, boo. That's what I'd say. Man, that would be crazy to watch someone chew through a cord, like through the their damn bill. That would be, I would get my phone out and want to record that just for the sake of it. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart.

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on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back on the Bobbycast. What are the rules on phones in the room? Because I did get in our delivery, the baby landing on my wife's chest, but I didn't know the rule. So I was just kind of wasn't hiding it, but I knew there were places I didn't need to be. Are there rules? There are rules. I will say this. I will say no one can make you do anything you don't want to do. So for me personally, so the rules around recording a birth are all about liability for the hospital and everyone involved. For me, if I see, and I might get in trouble for saying this, but like if I see someone recording during a birth, I keep a mouth shut.

Like I don't, I don't personally care. And what I'll tell them is like, hey, I'm not going to say anything. you might have other people that do. Now, it does get a little tricky for me because I very much like to not be known where I work or like, you know, because that can put me in a dangerous safety situation. So I'm starting to think more about like, hey, if somebody puts you on the internet,

like you wear in your outfit and your badge, like that can be a thing. But I try to hold myself to the standard where it doesn't matter if I'm being recorded or not. I'm going to act the exact same. I'm going to intervene in the way that I need to intervene if something goes sideways. And I feel like sometimes if you have a situation where something's going sideways and the people in the room who are working at the hospital are more concerned about

whether you're recording or not instead of doing what needs to happen for the patient, that can look a little yucky too. So I personally don't care, but a lot of people do. Something I've had to learn about recently is safe sleep. I just thought if you got a baby and it goes to sleep, if you want to, go to sleep with it. It makes sense. I can't because if I fall over on the baby, is it, I don't sleep at all.

If I have the baby, it doesn't matter. I don't sleep at all. What are the rules of safe sleep? So there, I mean, the main thing is not having the baby in the bed with you. There's all sorts of like different rules that, you know, people sometimes do. do try to sleep with their babies still. And so there are rules around that also. But I'll tell you that people who would never expect to have to have like a tragic thing happen, it happens.

And so me as a labor and delivery nurse who also goes down to the emergency department when we have infants pass away, I go down there and help them kind of make shadow boxes or handprints and footprints of infants that, you know, they've been born, they go home, they're with their parents, and then something tragic happens, they come back in and the baby has passed away for whatever reason. I will tell you that most of those are co-sleeping accidents. Wow. And yeah. And it's parents that never thought, never thought that it would happen. And I'll say like before I was the labor and delivery nurse, I co-s slept with my kids because I was like, oh, they're sleeping cool. And I'd like put them on my chest and then have like pillows on either side of me just so that I didn't turn over.

I would never if I had another baby, which I won't. But if I did, I would never do it just because of what I have experienced as a nurse in helping people memorialize those babies. So it's absolutely tragic when that happens. And I think that the biggest thing is making sure that they're not in the bed with you, that they're on their back and you don't have extra stuff around them, like pillows and blankets and stuff like that because they can like breathe in their own air and then lose some oxygen that way. Wow.

I have a couple more questions for you before we go. What do you think is the perfect hospital bag? I don't know what you've been called at. the birth bag. Yeah. What do we need? That's a good question. And it depends on who you are as a person.

I talk about this in the book, but it can be so individualized. And you can also show up to the hospital, titty's in the wind, not a stitch of clothes on you. And we got you. We can take care of you. We've got diapers for you and the baby, you know? But biggest thing, chargers. Man, I can't tell you how many people come in and say, uh-oh, forgot my charger. and we don't keep chargers.

But I'll say if wearing your own clothes is important to you, you can bring your own birth gown, you can wear whatever you want. We have mama and baby diapers so you don't really have to worry about that. If you have, I really love it when people bring in,

they make these like little fans with like posable legs that you can like wrap around the hospital bed or kind of stand up. Those are cool that people. bring um playlist and also if you're making a playlist do not just do kumbaya music that you think will relax you because i can't tell you how many people make a kumbaya playlist and they get so angry at the playlist when it's not helping them get through i i mean we need like dmx we need something

like something else you know some hype up music uh make a few playlists in case you don't like the one that you've made i did have a girl one time that played twinkle twinkle little star per 12 hours. No way. Yes. Yes. That's like baby shark vibes over and over again. Like you can't shake it.

Yeah. I thought I was going to go crazy. But I held it together. We got through it. But that was what got her through. What else can I tell you? We have scratchy towels, like smaller scratchy towels. So if you want to bring your own towels, that's cool.

You don't have to. Your own pillow. our pillows. Our pillows are not going to cut it. However you can make your environment in the hospital feel more like home, whether that's pillows, blankets, fan, scents. If you have like essential oils or whatever you want to do, I think that it's more about making your environment feel like home instead of having to make sure you bring 47 baby outfits or all that kind of stuff. All that after stuff, whey. You don't really have. Also, don't bring your stroller to labor and deliver. We're not going to stroll. We're not going to stroll. You can bring it later. You can bring it later whenever you're leaving or whatever, but you don't need it.

People sometimes bring in like everything that they've brought for the first 18 years of this child's life into the hospital. We don't need all that. You're right about the blankets and the pillows. We luckily took those and very much needed. The pillows were small in the hospital. all the blankets were kind of scratchy. But man, it is so cold.

And it's not my job to complain, but I was freezing. I was trying to get a little nap in. It was hard for me to get a little nap in because it was so cold in that room. Yep, absolutely. It's always freezing. And the couch is kind of sucked for me to sleep on. Yeah, it's true. Not made for the man at all, apparently.

No. They make, like, dad, bed blow up things now. Have you seen that? No, that's something you buy and take with you? Yeah. Oh, I would recommend that then. Okay, here's my advice for the bag. Put in whatever she's talking about because you'll get there.

And they have like this large pillow that flips down that's kind of the bed, but I'm pretty tall. And it was, again, it's no comparison. But it's pretty miserable for me. So, yeah, for the dad, take the blow up. Yeah, I also had, there's a dad that one time figured out that his gaming system would not hook up to our TV. He went out to Best Buy and got a 55-inch screen TV. brought it in. No way.

No way. Yes. And then karma said, guess what? Because when he opened it up, it was cracked. I said, ha, ha. That's what you get. Don't try to bring your 55-inch screen TV in there so you can play your freaking whatever you play on there.

That's wild. Because you won't be there long enough. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That stuff aggravates me. But it does happen. Don't do that.

Don't be that guy. Congratulations on the book. Like what is that you want people to take? take from this book? So my goal is that this book helps you prepare for your birth in a way that builds this cocoon of safety around you so that no matter what happens, you still feel informed, empowered, respected, heard. I think that a lot of people plan their whole pregnancy for a birth that's going to check off a birth plan. And it's so much less about the checkboxes and more about who you are as a person, what you need to feel safe, what you need to feel safe, what you need to

feel heard and respected. And so each of the chapters in this book in the first half go over a different vibe that you can think about for yourself so that you can personalize your birth experience so that if everything checks off everything on your birth plan, awesome, wonderful. We still have this cocoon of safety that makes it even better. But then also, if your birth goes completely off the rails that you still can leave that experience having had a more positive of experience them if you didn't think about all those other things. Hey, you said you swaddled chickens. You have chickens in your house?

I have, well, yeah, I have, right now they're outside. But I have a, I built, not I built, someone built for me, a very fancy chicken coop out there. But up until very recently, I had two chickens in my house. I've had them in my house for years. And then when we built this very fancy lady coop, I wanted to see if they liked it. And they've been having a great time out there. They wore diapers.

Did you know that chickens have diapers sometimes? No, no idea. Yes. I would give them baths. But they were like special needs chicken, so they got brought in for special needs reasons. And so. You domesticated special needs chickens?

Yeah. And I would have people reaching out to me because I knew that I would do that. And I had somebody give me a blind chicken who was being picked on. And I loved on her up until she died. and I had her, I called it her sister. Her sister was her seeing-eye cat, you know, because they just act like cats in my house. They just walk around.

And so her sister, Grits, would show her where the food is. And they were just like at the hip all day long, just walking around. So, yeah, I take in ones that have been maybe abused by their fellow chicken family members. And then I bring them inside and they live a life of luxury. That's awesome. Jen, thank you so much for the time. Congratulations on your book. Thank you so much.

I can't wait for you to meet. Hold on. Hold on. Let me find the name. Doctor. Nope. Yeah, Dr. Beach Gym 10. I'm really looking forward to me.

Yes, me too. Jen, thank you. Congratulations. And hopefully we'll run in each other sometime soon. All right. Thanks, Bobby. All right. Bye, Jen.

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