The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Maury Povich on “You Are NOT The Father”  + Covering Watergate & Martin Luther King Jr. Riots as a Journalist + Why He Still Loves Interviewing People + WWE Superstar Chelsea Green on Carrying Championship Belts Through Airports + The Misconception of Wrestling Being "Fake" 

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Bobby is joined by TV legend Maury Povich, who looks back on the moments that turned “You are NOT the father!” into one of the most quoted lines in TV history and how that era compares to his early days as a serious journalist. He shares stories from covering Watergate and the Martin Luther King Jr. riots, what it was like being on the front lines of huge historic moments, and how those experiences shaped the way he sees people. Maury also talks about why, after all these years, he still genuinely loves interviewing and what keeps him curious about human behavior. Then WWE Superstar Chelsea Green hops in to pull back the curtain on life in the ring and on the road. She explains what it’s actually like to travel with championship belts through airports, why she refuses to check them, and the physical and mental grind that comes with a job that has no real off-season. Chelsea and Bobby get into the biggest misconceptions about wrestling being “fake,” the skill and risk that go into every match, and why the stories behind the characters are just as real as anything you’ll see on TV.Check out On Par With Maury Povich Podcast Season 2 which premieres on Dec 8th on YouTube!Tickets for WrestleMania 42 at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, are on sale now at Ticketmaster HERE Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCast Watch this Episode on Youtube  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode 560 We're doubling up Double up Un-un-un Mori Povich We'll talk to him for half hour And then we'll get over to Chelsea Green after that I can kind of tell you a bit about both

But I'll do Mori first I mean Mori was What would be on all the time If you happen to be at home in the daytime On a weekday when you were a kid Yeah I was a kid I didn't know what was going on But I watched it

Yeah for the most part About 30% I had no clue 20% I thought was kind of bad I was like ooh I shouldn't be watching this And the other 50% I got. But yeah, it was interesting because he was one of those, that was kind of like the heyday of daytime talk, where it was obviously Oprah and then she kind of elevated.

And back in the day it was Phil Donahue, way back in the day, Sally Jesse, Mari, Ricky Lake. Like, there were like seven or eight of those guys. Jerry Springer ended up coming about. It was the golden age of those daytime, sit down in a studio talk shows that ended up just getting big ratings because they would do things like you're not father. That's what Mori now is known most for because the clips are going viral again. And then people are also like recreating them.

And so I can read you a little bit about this because I really loved talking with Mori. I don't know he was 80 years old. Yeah. He's with it. He's one of the most with it 80 year olds I think I've ever talked to because we were talking with him. And before we started, I was like, oh man, this is going to be cool because Mori is like a big part of like my television child. goodhood viewing. And he's a pop culture, a big part of pop culture. But I was like, yeah, he's kind of old. He may have to like help him through it. Didn't have to help him through

it at all. He was even dressed in golf gear as we were doing the interviews so you knew he had been out on the course before that. So Mori Popovich, the king of talk TV is back. He's got on par with Mori Popovich podcast season two. And you can check it out. He has such a history in journalism. His dad, and he talks about this, was at the Washington Post for 75 years. And then Mori ends up, you know, being really serious in journalism. Like he covered from Martin Luther King that I had a dream speech to Nixon to, I mean, he had done it all before he had just kind of backed into doing daytime television. And we talk about that story. But I really enjoyed this. So we're going to get to Mori. And then after that, we'll talk to Chelsea Green,

who is, if you watch the Netflix series, what was that even called? Hall. Unreal? Yeah. It's where they showed you behind the scenes. I feel like that really made Chelsea Green look relatable and like normal, right? That's where I became a fan. Yeah, because it was just somebody who worked hard, did everything they asked, never really got a look, kept getting injured, and kind of the fans were undeniable and their cheers for her, so they had to like elevate her. That would be my interpretation. What's yours? Yeah. She's also like very over the top, makes her own gear. Oh yeah, she's the one that made her own stuff, huh? Yeah, with her pace on it. That was funny. She was like, I'm waiting for the perfect time in that series to wear this.

And she had a... Yeah, she plays a villain for the most part, but people like her so much. It's like back in the, like the NWO days, like they made it to be a bad group, but then they were just so cool that everybody liked them. Yeah. So Moripovich first, and then we're all over to Chelsea Green. Thank you guys for listening. You can watch all these videos too up on the channel at Bobby Bones channel. There'll be separate videos, but you can check those out. And here we're we go. Hey, Maury, good to see you. Bobby, nice to be with you. Hey, I'm a massive fan for a long time, so this is really cool for me. So I just want to say that up front. Congratulations on the podcast. We were talking about you before you came on. And I, my assumption is everywhere you go,

people yell at you. You are not the father or something like that everywhere you go. Or they want me to give them an autograph to say they're not the father. Oh, you have to sign that. Oh, of course. You know, hey, Jimmy, you are not the father. Or, you want me to give him an autograph to say they're not the father. you are the father that's funny when you were doing those episodes specifically yeah could you tell culturally that was cutting through at the time you know i i never thought about it but uh when i used to go to events it's amazing my wife Connie chung you know and so we we go to these media parties and uh everybody would want to you know surround Connie and talk to Connie and if i wanted to be no I noticed I'd go to the kitchen.

And then everybody in the kitchen knew who I was. That's funny. And then I knew I was cutting through to the real people. Whenever I think about your history, you know, and I think something that a lot of people maybe don't appreciate now as much as they should as your history of covering like some major events.

Before we knew you in daytime television, you know, I think about like Watergate. and not to jump off and something super serious now, but as Watergate was happening, are there parallels to now what's happening now with like Epstein, etc? Absolutely. No question.

What it's all about is the abuse. Back then, it was the abuse of Richard Nixon and all of the underlings under him, Robert Haldeman and John Ehrlichman, the chiefs of staff and the number one counselor and all these people played a role in what

And if you looked at those three people, Nixon, Ehrlichman and Alderman back then, they were all angry-looking people. And my issue, one of my big issues is, there is so many people are angry. I mean, it doesn't matter where you are on the political spectrum. There's just a lot of anger around, a lot of cynicism and negative. and, you know, it's just rough. Do you find that there are parallels between, and again, I wasn't there for, like, Watergate or for in the 70s, for the protests in Vietnam?

Because to me, this feels like the worst time ever. Now, as someone who covered it as closely as you did, you were in it. Are they similar? Is it worse? Is it more toxic now because of the ability to have social media and connect with people? It's all about government. abuse. All right. Now, back then, it was, you know, solely in the White House. That's where the abuse

came. Now, you see it a lot of places. I mean, a lot of agencies, I think when we all cut back on the budgets of all these agencies and people are hurting and the tariffs are hurting people, all kinds of the deportation in a way is hating people, hurting people. And so it's more widespread now. Before it was kind of contained, I don't think it's contained these days. Yeah, the political environment is something that I get exhausted just keeping up with. It's just terrible. I mean, you feel that you're drained by.

noon. If you're looking on, you know, on not even social media, if you're, if you're reading newspapers online, if you're, if you're looking at CNN online, if you're looking at Fox online, it doesn't matter. You're, you're right, you're exhausted by noon. And I just, it's rough. I'll tell you one thing with me and my wife. Boy, we're not, we're glad we're not in that end of the business anymore. And that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's rough out there in media. And, and, and it's rough, not only trying to cover things, but I mean, unfortunately, I think there, there's been a tilt in terms of, uh, opinion and news. And it's tough to separate what is actual news and what is

opinion. Yeah, I feel like there was a journalistic standard at some point that the word standard is, that that that's not. even in our vocabulary anymore. Now it's just can we get clicks with sensational headlines with opinions, or I should say, it doesn't seem to me that there are standards of just presenting the news in an unbiased way. It's very tough. Look, my father was the sports columnist of the Washington Post for 75 years. I mean, the Washington Post was like the Bible to us. I read the Washington Post today, and I got to think, oh, you know, that headline really wasn't, you know. objective fair news that story

that story should have been analysis it should have been opinion it shouldn't have been straight news forward straightforward news so at the New York Times I question them as well I question everybody these days it's very tough

I'll tell you Bobby there's one area of news and you'll understand this because you work in local stations around the country Local journalism is treated by the community as a trustworthy enterprise. People trust local journalism. I don't care if it's on TV or in their local newspapers.

People trust what is happening in local news in terms of whether it was a fair coverage of a story. And I agree with that. For the most part, until you get to like when these local TV stations are all bought by the same company, and then you see they're all being fed the same thing to say. That's true. If the parent company has an act to grind or the parent company has a particular formula that they want every station to enact, that's different. But look, I worked at local stations all across the country, put in the 25 years before I ever did current affair in the talk show. And I've never, ever had a news director tell me how to cover a story.

I feel I shouldn't know who the FCC chairman is, and I feel like I shouldn't know that they're political. Well, they are. I mean... It shouldn't be a thing that I should know about. It should be such an apolitical position. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, for the president of the United States to mention yesterday, the FCC, the head of the FCC,

when he was berating an ABC reporter for asking a question. I mean, really? I mean, the FCC, all my, I mean, in the 60-plus years I've been in this business, they never had any kind of presence the way they do now. Yeah, I got fined a million bucks by the FCC once. And not only that, it wasn't political. I didn't even know who the chairman was. And you're right, whenever the FCC is like jumping in in lockstep with anyone,

it just feels like it's systematically against someone at all times. And so it's a weird environment. And again, I just respect where you come from because with you, Watergate, MLK, the assassination of MLK, how close were you to that? Well, what I was close to were the aftermath riots in Washington, D.C. And the way I saw our town, I mean, look, I covered the anti-Vietnam demonstrations in Washington, And I've covered a lot of demonstrations in Washington, never saw riots, never saw whole blocks burn down. And that's what happened after the Martin Luther King assassination. And the interesting thing is, one of the first stories I ever did on radio when I was a radio reporter was his famous speech from the Lincoln Memorial.

I was covering it for a local radio station, and my job was to cover all the way down at the end of the mall as far away as you could. I had to cover the counter demonstration by George Lincoln Rockwell in his American Nazi party, all of which there were 10 demonstrators and 50 cops. And I could just hear King's speech in the loudspeakers all the way down at the Lincoln Memorial.

but the aftermath of his assassination. I mean, they came so, I mean, they came so quickly. I mean, King is assassinated in April. Bobby Kennedy is assassinated in June. I mean, reminded me of Charlie Kirk. Same thing. I mean, it's all of this political heat boiling over, and that's what happens. Do you feel like you've seen the cycle happen enough times?

You can almost predict the cycle, a pendulum and politically, somebody comes in, then the opposite, and then this happens. Because again, I see similarities, but I don't, I wasn't there at any point to see any sort of cycle. It's there. We're talking about the 1960s and the 1970s where there was a lot of upheaval, starting with the assassination of John Kennedy in 63, all the way through Watergate in 74. I mean, in Washington, you covered those events. I mean, that was a lifetime. A lot of coverage today, I mean, it's similar.

You're right. Bobby, it's similar. There was an ebb and flow back then. In other words, there was this event, then it was over, then the riots were there, and that lasted for about a month, and then it was calm, and then some other event came. today it doesn't look like the meter ever goes down yeah it doesn't mean it's up all the time yeah it's always hot uh you mentioned your dad earlier in 75 years which means he was embedded into sports did you get to go to any iconic sporting events with your dad as a child uh yeah i mean i i kind of grew up

it as me uh was in every press box that he ever was in uh i started as a sportscaster in 1962 on radio and I couldn't get it. I wanted to write, but the Washington Post had an nepotism policy. You couldn't, if you were a member of the, if you remember the family, you couldn't get a job there. So I kind of gravitated early on when I was 17, 18 into radio and television, and then television. I, yeah, we were at, we were at, we were at Sugar Ray Leonard and, uh, Marvin Hagler fight, the championship fight in Vegas together. We were at the famous, maybe the greatest fight of all time, Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier in Madison Square Garden.

And so there were several events we were at. When I did watch, I mean, he was really a great word smith. And his closest buddy in covering sports was Red Smith, the great columnist for the New York Times. and these two guys would be the last guys in the press box putting out their column for the next day. Every light was dark except the light in the press box. And they would be there and they're typing and their old typewriters. And it's as if they were bleeding trying to get the right phraseology.

Did your dad ever not want you to do what he did? One time, I did this show called A Current Affair. It was the first big tabloid journalism show. And Tom Shales was the media critic in The Washington Post. And he was a Pulitzer Prize winner. And so he wrote a brutal review of me and my show. He used every S word in the world, smarmy, sordid, snarky, you name it. So I called up my father and I said, you know, Dad, don't show this to mom.

You know, this is really brutal. He just really took me on. He said, oh, don't worry about it. I just go about your business. I said, well, you know, he says, well, you know, I helped to hire Tom Shales here at the Washington Post. I said, yeah, dad, but I'm your son. He says, yeah, son, but good writers are hard to find. I mean, that, I mean, that says it.

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If you were to look back at your career, who are some of those folks that you talk to that you would get super excited to talk to because it was rare air to be with that person? You know, Bobby, it's very interesting. I always fashioned myself as a storyteller. It didn't matter at what role I was having in my life, whether I was a straight news reporter, news anchor, everything, I always felt myself as a storyteller.

And I learned that from my father. And as I moved through my career, I felt that every single story on my show was unique. Even though I did thousands of DNA tests and thousands of lie detector tests, I found that each story was unique. And so I treated it that way. And I feel that that was

the connection that I was able to make. Look, I know when I started to do my talk show until I ended these talk shows, that's 31 years later. There were 75 talk shows in the cemetery that didn't work. And I knew a talk show worked when a host or hostess, whatever, could make a connection with that audience. It was like an election. It was a campaign. You had to knock on a door. They had to open it. They had to invite you in. You had to become a member of their family. Only the successful talk show hosts were able to do that. To jump in front of the camera full time, was it someone that gave you that push or was that just the next step? Radio is a big part of your life. I will tell you that in 1962, when I got out of college and I wanted to get into the

business full time, I had been an assistant producer for the radio broadcast television broadcasters from the Washington Senators baseball team. I wanted to get into the business. You can't get a job in the business unless you have experience. And if you don't have experience, how do you get into the business? So I got into the business

as an assistant publicity writer at a 5,000-watt radio station and I hung around the newsroom to the fact that the news director thought I was a pest and made me a reporter. And to get into television back then, there was no one in television back then

who had not been in radio first. Think about that. I mean, everyone, I don't care whether you're in the news business or everybody had to be in radio first in order to graduate to television. So for me being in radio, the only first job I ever got in television was the sport doing the, being a sportscaster

on the 10 o'clock. news at the now Fox station in Washington, D.C. And that's how it all started. And then within three months, they wanted to do this big three hour a day talk show way before CNN, way before cable news. It was kind of the news of the day for three hours a day. And it was a three-person anchor desk. And I was the only, and they looked around and the only person who grew up in Washington

was me. So I was hired for that. So I was a sportscaster and a talk show host within three months of 1966. Did it ever, with your syndication and like your national reach, were there moments where you thought it was over, but miraculously something happened? Or was it just steady growth the whole time? No, it was serendipity. I'm anchoring the local newscast in Washington, D.C.

For the now Fox station, the 10 o'clock news. all of a sudden this crazy Australian named Rupert Murdoch buys my station and the other Metro Media station and those become or the Fox O&Os this is before the Fox Network way before the Fox News Channel

this is what he had I get a call three a year later that he bought it in 1986 I'm supposed to come to New York see Mr. Murdoch he wants to talk to me I had never met the man I go to New York, he looks at me, and he says, I have this idea for a show. I said, yeah.

He says, it's called a current affair. It's going to be all the stories that the regular network news departments won't air. Those are the stories we're going to air. Rupert Murdoch had this great ability to see an undeserved public, a public that was underserved. And so he tapped into that. And this tabloid news show became the biggest hit in primetime access between 7 o'clock and 8 o'clock in the country. And Murdoch, and that, I mean, he told me, he says, well, if this show doesn't work out, you'll go back to Washington. And meanwhile, you just got married.

You live in Washington. Your wife lives in New York. Maybe you'll find out if you could live together. It seems though that is a bit what he did again with this version of Fox News. No question. Fox News, I mean, it was all Murdoch. He saw an undeserved huge amount of the public that he felt weren't getting what they wanted. And he gave it to them.

And he's still giving it to them. And that's, you know, 25 years later. How do you still have an interest in people? I mean, I feel like you've talked with everybody about everything, and yet here you are still doing it. Well, I tell you, it's very interesting. Everybody says, you know, you're well in your 80s. I said, look, I'm still curious.

I have a curiosity. I want to know things. I want to find out things about people. I mean, we're starting this second season on this podcast. I had so much fun. Bobby, this is the stretch of the people. I had. Elise Myers, this unbelievable content creator, never heard of her in my life.

Fascinating person who has all of these followers. I did Leanne Morgan, okay? You know Leanne Morgan? I do, yeah. She's one of the biggest comedians going. She's 60 years old from this little town in Tennessee. You ever watch the show Billions? I know it well.

Wags of all the characters. in billions, wags. This guy who's been playing these character actors in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, David Costable. And so William H. Macy, okay? Anybody seen Fargo? Anybody seen shameless? William H. Macy is a great story.

I love this stuff. I love it. What do you find the through line is of very successful people? I think more than anything else, when they lose, they bounce back. The greatest fear anybody in my business would ever have is being fired. I go to Los Angeles. I'm the second banana to my wife, who's the big star out in Los Angeles at the CBS station.

I'm hired by a guy six months later. He's gone. The new general manager fires me eight months into my job. I thought I was, I thought I would die. I mean, and then guess what? I still have all of my digits. I have my legs. I have my arms.

I got my hands. You know, I lie down on the couch. I'm watching newscasts and I'm saying, you know, I think I'm just as good as these guys. I mean, I think so. And so I end up three months later getting a job in San Francisco at the ABC station. And so I think you're... With actors, how about all the additions they lose? How about all the additions that they go to and they don't get it?

And they keep going. They keep going. How about Al Pacino in The Godfather when the guy didn't even want him there? Wanted to throw him out, Robert Evans, the head of Paramount. Wanted to throw him out. Didn't want Coppola to get him. And Coppola insisted. I just think

even when others kind of bitch and moan about you and criticize you I've always for some reason it's always kind of washed off my back in season one you did Pablo Tori who I'm a big fan of because he is yeah and I thought the episode was great

and he is an investigative journalist like he's old school but young and new school what did you like about him first of all he's so smart And I also feel honored because he said to me, he says, you've been in this business. What is going to happen because I'm getting a lot of blowback? And I said, well, here's what's going to happen, Pablo. The NFL is going to get on you.

And the problem is that, I mean, the NBA is going to get on you. The problem, the NBA is going to get on you. the problem is, are you going to lose your sources? And the key is, obviously, you had sources who were executives, if not owners, of NBA teams. You can't allow those sources to dry up just because you're being called out by a lot of people. And secondly, I know if the NBA is going to have an investigation, that law firm is going to be calling you. And they're going to be asking you, you know what?

As a journalist, they're going to want to know who your sources are. And you always have to protect your sources. So we've had a back and forth for many months now. I have so much fun with him. Do you know what he and I did that you might not know about, you know who Nick Cannon is? I do know Nick Cannon, but I don't know what you're talking about. Nick Cannon has a podcast. It's called We Play in Spades. And we played Spades. Pablo Tori and I played spades against Nick Cannon and his co-host. And we beat the hell out of him. That's funny. You go to his house and take his, yeah, that's good.

It was great. And Pablo was great. Connie and I just did another episode of Pablo. I mean, I've been on Pablo's podcast maybe two or three times now. now. And Connie loves him. Connie loves him because he's smart and he went to Harvard. I know a golfer when I see one. Mostly I saw your foot joy. I saw your FJ. Yeah. Yeah. As a golfer myself, I spotted a mile away. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're a big golfer. I am. Did you play today? How'd you know? He saw the sleep. I did. I saw the foot joy. I walked in to be with you on a half hour before. I just finished up. So what do you play? Do you play nine? 18 a day. Do you live on a course?

No, I don't live on a course, but I live like 20. I'm in Florida these days. I live 20 minutes away. My wife always says to me, I don't understand it, Maury. You go find a golf club, and then we have to find a house. I mean, why is it that way? I mean, so we spend some of the winter in Florida, and I belong to a course here. we've been living in Montana for the last 26 years, 28 years actually. I have two little courses there I play. I have a course in New York because we still have a place in New York. So, I mean, I never played golf until I was 30. I never had a lesson until I was 50.

My wife researched it at 50 as a birthday present. she gave me this coach teacher. His name is Peter Costas. He used to be on the CBS golf broadcast for 30 years. He's a great teacher. And my wife says, well, this guy is like the golf god. And so now for the last 36 years, I've been following Peter all around the country,

and she calls him the golf devil. How many hole-on-ones do you have? I've had two. Oh, man. And I never had one until I was maybe, oh, maybe 55 or 60. Tell me about the first one. It was at Hollywood Golf Club in Deal, New Jersey, a great old course, the Walter Travis courts, this signature hole was this short par three uphill, all surrounded by bunkers.

And it's just 150 yards. And I was a member there for 25 years. and I just hit this shot. And the good news was that we had a foursome. A foursome up on the green was letting us play through. So they were like eight or nine guys. Wow, wow. Yeah.

And so I never saw the bowl going to hole. And before that, I always said, Ben Hogan never had a hole in one competitively. And his excuse was that he said he never aimed at the pin. And so I was using that excuse. until, of course, I made a hole in one. What's your handicap? Well, I'm very upset.

My handicap now is 5.5. It was six months ago. It was 3.5. So now you see how upset I am about life. I mean, I've been scratched once in my life. I played, cost us got me so good that I played, I qualified for the United States senior amateur. I made match play in the United States senior amateur.

I played in three British senior amateurs. I was really good when I was about 55 to 60. Ever since then, it's just moving up a tea. If you're a five handicapped more, that's pretty freaking good. That's really awesome. Well, I don't want to keep you any longer, but I am a massive fan of, Like the different version, like the different, I feel like you had different sections of your life that all were very instrumental in different ways. And I think that that's what I'm a fan of, of the different ways that you were able to, A, make a difference or be cut through. And sometimes at the same time, but even like you're talking about, even with like your talk show, like you were cutting it through and you were doing, in my opinion, with that show, what you talked about was happening with the idea of a current affair or Fox News. Like you were doing that.

You were finding the underserved and actually giving them something they could relate to. Do you think that's correct? You know, I never thought of it that way, but you're right. I mean, and I, you know, I'm kind of proud of that. I mean, I mean, even today, it doesn't matter. I see a caddy. Oh, I grew up watching you. I mean, in fact, I have a great caddy story in terms of the show.

So a friend of mine said that he was, he always hung out in the caddy shack with the caddies at the golf course and there was always a TV on and he's just listening and one cat he's saying to the other you ever had that situation where somebody accused you of being the daddy of their kid and the guy says oh yeah yeah all the time he says well what do you say he says I tell them all the same thing I ain't the daddy till more he tells me I'm the dad okay I'm going to let you go but oh so I'm about to have my my first child my wife is pregnant oh wow oh boy Here we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I wasn't going to do it, but I have to do it. So do you mind, Maury? Yeah, yeah, but do we have a name? We don't have a name or a gender yet. Okay. Bobby, in the case of your little baby, you are the father. Yes, yes, it's me.

All right, Murray, I love your podcast. Again, I love the history of Maury, and hope everybody checks out on par with Mori Povich. Season 2 is coming out. But go listen to season one. I know season two is coming out, but I want to encourage everybody. You had some really great guests in season one. I was a special.

Lewis Black and Pablo Tori were two that I really loved. And so thank you for your time. And I hope you have a great rest of the day. By the way, Lewis Black, addicted golfer. Yeah. Addicted. You can always, you can tell. It's a look we have, Maury.

It's a look we have. Have a great rest of the day. And hopefully we'll cross paths sometime. Bye, Maury. Appreciate it. Bye-bye. The Bobbycast. We'll be right back.

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This is the Bobbycast. All right, we're going to go now to WWE superstar Chelsea Green, which if you watch the Netflix series on the WWE, which was kind of that docu series, that's where I really became a fan of her. I already knew her from wrestling, but I just knew her as somebody who had a big personality. It was kind of the villain.

It was somebody who lost all the time. They kind of just set her up to be big and then to get beat up. And now not so much because while we're talking to her, she's holding two massive championship belts. And I felt like they were a bit heavy. I felt like she wanted to put them down, but she was like, I'm not putting these championship belts down. WrestleMania 42 tickets are up now.

WrestleMania Saturday, April 18th, and 19th in Las Vegas. And go over and get the tickets. They went on sale. a few days ago. But you can get your tickets now. But here she is. Follow her. If you want to see what she looks like,

just go to Instagram, Chelsea Green. But a big fan, here she is. Chelsea Green. What belt are those? One of those a tag team? Which one is that?

Yep. This is, oh, wait. No, this is the tag team and this is the United States Women's Championship belt. Do you carry those with you everywhere you go? Of course. How do you get them through the air?

I'd be afraid that like one of the screeners at the airport would be like wanting to wear it and take a picture with or something. Yeah, they do. I love it. Like, do you, you don't check it though, right? You take it, you carry it on. I carry it on because God forbid. Yeah. God forbid it goes missing. Can you imagine? What's the rule on if you are the champion? And I've seen how they remove the names on the sides of the belts, right? Like it's like a ceremony.

Yep, the name plates are here. So you don't get to ever keep the belt. Can you ask for a replica belt if you've been the champion and then it's gone? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. We've got all of our replica belts. Some of the replica belts will actually come from the WWE shop and are, they're sold and they are amazing. And then others, we actually get made from the belt maker, the original belt maker. I think that would be cool to have those.

I have a belt. It's obviously I didn't wrestle. I did the Major League Baseball Celebrity Softball game, and I was MVP, and they gave me a WWE belt. and on the sides it has the specific event. And so I have that up. I think that would be so cool to have like all the belts from all the championships that you've won. No, it's so cool.

And I actually, so I just won this. Wait, this. Man, this is really screwing me up here, having two belts. I just won this one for the second time. And I texted my husband. I'm like, like, what's the rule here? Do I have to buy another belt? Or like, how does this work?

I don't know. I never expected this. Yes, I think you need a second. one. So I'm a big fan for a lot of reasons. And I think to me, what I thought was really cool about you was how much Netflix showed like your work ethic whenever they did the series. Like aside from your athleticism and your background or how great of a wrestler you are, I think it showed why people root for you. How did you feel about once you saw what they edited and how did you feel about what was aired?

So when they called me, I'll never forget. I was in the Salt Lake. Lake City Airport, they called me and asked me if I wanted to do it. And I was like, look, I will absolutely do it, but I'm not going to edit myself. Like, you guys need to edit me because if you want me for the reasons I think you want me, which is my openness, my candidness, my willing to just, you know, talk about like whatever. I'm not afraid as my fans know, like I'm not afraid to say how I feel. I was like, you guys are going to. have to edit me. They said, no problem. We're not going to hold anything against you, whatever. I film for months on end, and then I forget about it. And then it airs. And I was sitting on a

plane next to Braun Breaker, and I saw him watching it. And I was like, oh, I just can't do it. Like, it's so cringy to watch myself. And I don't ever want to change who I am because I've seen myself and I gave myself the ick, because I've done that before. And it's, and it's, It's the same reason why I don't watch myself wrestle. I don't watch myself do promos. Like, I just, I like how I am on camera and how people perceive me. I don't want to change myself because I'm judging myself. And then I started doing media and I realized really quick, if I don't watch this episode

of myself, I'm not going to know what I'm talking about. And so I watched it and I was so pleasantly surprised. I felt like besides the fact that it could have been so much longer that, you know, we had months of footage and much. of just like other stories that we could have put in that episode, I, I thought it was totally me. It was the relationships I have with everyone. It's everyone, you know, talking shit to each other. And like, nobody has to be serious around me.

Everyone can say what they want. And my family was there. And, you know, showing kind of the, I mean, a little bit of the trials and tribulations we go through as wrestlers. And my story, it was just, yeah, it was really cool. They did a great job. It's like they know what they're doing. Yeah, I know. I think the thing that made me like it for you the most was it made you likable because of the hard work that obviously you've put in, all the injury setbacks.

And not only that, your performance and the crowd reacting to it is really what put you over more so than it seemed like just a person going, I now deem you to be the one. It was like the people were able to do that for you. It's funny because I worked so hard for the past almost 12 years to get to WWE. Now that I'm here, I realize, thank God I didn't get here in 2014. Thank God it took me this long because that is why the fans are behind me. They know my story. They followed me getting fired multiple times. They followed me, you know, not winning tough enough.

They followed me when I was on the independent. scene and struggling and trying to come up with these characters or at TNA as the hot mess. And that is why they want so badly to see me climb this ladder because I'm not the chosen one. And it's very obvious I'm not the chosen one. And I like that for me. But for years, I wanted so badly for that to be me. I have friends that are massive country stars now. And they will talk about specifically shows where they played for six people.

And it's crazy to even watch the videos because now they play to arenas or stadiums. when you were wrestling independent, are there any shows you can think of where there were, you know, 7, 10, 20 people in the crowd? Okay, there's a show in Calgary, Alberta, kind of in a rough part of town in Calgary.

And my Calgarians will know. It's in the Northeast. They know. And a guy, an old, old man was wrestling before me. And I was watching. And I saw his old. wrinkly balls come out of his trunks.

And that was a moment that I thought, what in the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here. I'm too good for this. Get me out of here. And that's something that I will, you know, take with me forever when I go out there on, you know, on a WrestleMania stage or I fall off that ladder

at money at the bank. I think about that man's, that man's old wrinkly balls. Yeah, wrinkly scrottom will do it. It'll really change your perspective. on where you are in life. So, athletically,

there are stories of, like LeBron or, even some guys that I work with that are athletes that invest a lot of money into their body because that's their tool. So what are you doing

like physically to make sure you stay healthy? So I've been really, I've been obsessed with personal training, diet, exercise, all that stuff since I was probably 14. and then I went to school at University of Calgary for kinesiology. So that's kind of ingrained in me no matter what.

I'm always going to be a somewhat healthy eater. I'm always going to work out for my mental health. It's second nature to me. But I think what I've learned being on the road so much in the past three years, you know, I have not been home this month. I've been on the road. And as any WWE fan knows, we don't have an offseason the way that the NFL the MLB, you know, the NHL, whatever, have, we don't have that. Routine is really important.

And I've learned to find that in traveling. I've learned to find, you know, a routine when I get to my hotel room, a good sleep pattern if I can find one. And just those things, the comforts of home while I'm on the road that make me feel grounded, well, rest of the way. and just keep me sane because it's tough, you know, being away from your own shower and your own bed and your family and your friends and still looking the way that people expect you to look performing at a very, very high level. It's hard. It is very hard. I'm in a walking boot now and I've been on a scooter the last couple weeks because that ankle surgery and a little bit of it's messed with my mind because I am a pretty active person. Like,

like mentally, it starts to like affect me to the point where it's like, man, am I like starting to get depressed? Because I can't do anything except lay in the bed. But you've been through so many injuries. And when that is your job, like was it your mental health? Did you have to really, was that a struggle for you? I mean, yeah, of course, especially when it comes to injuries. I mean, look, mental health is going to be a struggle no matter what. And then it's going to be a struggle when you're sleep deprived or when you haven't eaten enough or when the pressures. of show business are put on you. But it's really tough as an athlete when the thing that you love the most is kind of ripped

out from underneath you. And usually, as a wrestler, it's not in this amazing fashion. It's something really crazy like tripping and falling. Or like, you know, we fall on our butt and we break our wrist, which I've done three times. It's not in this glorious fashion of, you know, you. You know, I fell off a 20-foot ladder through a blaming table and everyone was cheering and I broke something. That's not how it happens. It's always the simplest of things. When I had my first injury, it was in India. And I broke my collarbone mid-match. And I actually had to get airlifted to a hospital

in India and receive treatment there. I went through surgery in India. That was crazy, you know, but again, I was on the Indies. I was able to go home. It wasn't, it wasn't that tough on my mental It was tough when I had my first injury in WWE because it was on live TV. It happened and then I was off live TV and my dream was kind of ripped away from me. And that happened again when I had my Smackdown debut. I broke my wrist on live television just before I was about to qualify for a Survivor series. And, you know, seeing this amazing road in front of you, you know, I'm going to do all these things. I'm debuting.

I'm going to be a star. I'm going to get a raise. I'm going to be on WrestleMania. I'm going to be the next John Cena. And then all of a sudden you're stuck at home for six to 12 weeks. And you're not doing anything. You're not going to work. You're not filling your cup with, you know, doing media or getting hair and makeup done

or doing any of those things that you have been doing every single day for weeks on end. It's really, really tough. But I learned with my last broken arms. that if you don't have hobbies and things outside of this, that you love, whether you're injured or not, you're going to go insane because this doesn't last forever. This is show business. And show business is so cutthroat. You need to have other things that fill your cup and that make you whole and that keep you

happy, you know? Growing up and you're doing theater and you're training and you're training and dance and anything creative or anything athletic, like not a lot of stability there, even speaking for myself doing stand-up or doing, or whatever, whatever it is. There's just not stability. So what is like your family, your parents, what do they think when you say, hey, I want to pursue this career with no stability whatsoever? Well, first of all, my parents, my whole family is very, they're like very put together, like, for lack of better words, posh. Like, you know, my dad is an investment.

advisor in Canada. My mom works at or worked, she just retired at a very beautiful boarding school. My grandma is a posh British woman. They thought I was insane. They thought it was absolutely crazy. It was lowbrow. It was not what they ever expected me to do. But I think now they realized this is exactly what I was born to do. And you know, it was rough when I was on the independent scene wrestling for 10 people and not making money and struggling and all that when I really did have all the options in the world and I was able to go to school and things like that. Now, of course, I'm 12 years into wrestling and, you know, I'm building my dream home and I'm married and I have all these dogs and cats and I'm able to I'm able to treat them to things that they never expected

I'd be able to treat them to like those are the moments where it's all worth it but it took a while it took a while and my grandma admits all the time that she was so embarrassed to tell her friends at morning coffee that her granddaughter was a professional wrestler that's funny let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor a win is a win a win a win I Okay, wait y'all saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever

supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and host of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change.

We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a recent episode of the podcast Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never, ever taught.

Financial education is not always about like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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Dancing with the Stars has crushed in ratings in the past, like unprecedented. And you have a dance background. Would you ever do a show like that? I am so glad that you just asked me that. I feel like maybe we're on the same wavelength today, and that's crazy, because I have been for the past six months pestering the hell out of Dancing with the Stars and out of our talent relations team, they hear from me every single Friday, whether it's in person or by text.

Did Dancing with the Stars call yet? Have you asked Dancing with the Stars? Have you, oh, yeah, I know the producers of Dancing with the Stars. I've spoken to Nikki Bella. I've spoken to The Miss. I am planting those seeds. I am watering those seeds. I am fertilizing those seeds.

I will be on dancing with the stars. It's just a matter of time. Okay, so if you really, so I won the show a few years ago, like I won the mirror ball. And I know, if you want, I know the head of casting, I can literally, Dina,

I can just text her. Yeah, I didn't want to say her name, but oh, I know Dina. I will text her and just put in a good word and be like, hey, I was talking to Chelsea Green. Like, I think she would be awesome for the show. If that's not like overstepping, would you mind if I did that?

Would I mind? I would pay you. Let me give me your zeal. I'll zeal you money to do it. No, I'll seriously, I think you'd be so great on it. And there hasn't been a professional wrestler on it. And I think it would be the first, I think I think it'd be fan, because again, you're so performative in your wrestling and obviously you have a background. I think you would be so good on that show. And before you came on, because that show is ending. And it's been a little controversial for me this year. But I wanted a few years back. And I was like, I think she'd be great. So I will text her and just put you from another side, I will say, I think Chelsea Green would be awesome. This is, I knew there was a reason I woke up early today. This was it.

How physically, how are you feeling right now? Oh, exhausted. Absolutely exhausted. But, I mean, I dreamt of the day I was going to be absolutely exhausted from wrestling. And so it's a really good feeling to wake up being exhausted because I'm doing every single thing I ever dreamt up. When you talk about WrestleMania and we're talking about WrestleMania before you came on, we were talking about tickets going on sale. And even behind you, it says, Russellmania Vegas. I mean, that's that's Super Bowl type stuff, like leading up to it, like being there.

Like what's the vibe like at WrestleMania? I mean, I don't think there's anything like it. We always compare it to the Super Bowl and, you know, like the pinnacle of every other sports thing. But I don't think there's anything like WrestleMania because we've now, not only is it, it, you know, two days. Obviously, this year is going to be April, 18th, and 19th, but it's a whole week of just everyone being engulfed in all things professional wrestling. And what I love about WrestleMania week is it's now transcended just WWE. The entire wrestling community bases their year around this week. And so I personally get to see all my friends from other kinds of

companies and everyone, I mean, I don't get to see raw talent. I don't get to see Maxine Dupree all the time. So, of course, we get to spend the whole week together and we get to go to the superstore. And now my hat is going to be in the superstore this year. And I get to meet all the fans that I've been kind of connecting with online through Twitter and and through Instagram all year. And we get to, you know, just like have those one-on-one moments that I personally think make or break a fan's relationship with the sport of professional wrestling. Because they all just want, they just want to tell you how much they love this. And so to be able to stand in a meet and greet line or a photo op line and have them tell me that,

it's just like the coolest thing ever. It really is. It's my favorite week of the year besides Christmas. I have three very quick, super cliche wrestling questions to ask because I'd be remiss if I didn't just ask these questions. Who's your favorite wrestler of all time? Kelly Kelly. Secondly, what's your favorite match that you lost? First of all, I don't know if you know me, but I've lost every match ever. I'm on basically a losing streak. I don't know how I hold these championships, but it's something has gone seriously wrong in the back

for me to even have these titles. But I digress. I would say at the money in the bank match where I knew Tiffy was winning. I knew how big that was going to be for her. I love her. And I knew that besides her winning, me being pushed off that ladder was going to be the most viral thing on that show. So that was exciting to you because you knew even though you were losing, you coming off the ladder was going to be what popped. And it was going to be in the most glorious fashion that Tiffy was going to be able to grab that briefcase after pushing me off the ladder. I knew that the crowd. I knew that the

crowd is going to be split between Tiffany and myself. And I had already decided I was going to do that stunt. I was dying on that hill. They tried to say, I don't think you should do it. It's unsafe. I said I'm doing it. The producers were incredible about pushing and saying like, she's going to do it. Whether you want her to or not, she's going to do it.

And I made sure that that was the last thing that those fans saw before she got the briefcase. Because, you know, when you're building a match, it has to go like, like, ah, uh, ha, ha, like that. And if you don't

have that, you've done something wrong. And so I knew that that was the best thing for right before the biggest pop of the night,

which was Tiffany winning the briefcase. Final question. Super cliche question. What do you think Jen Pop doesn't know about what you do? I just think

that they don't understand. I think this whole F word, the word fake. has been thrown around since the early 2000s, that they don't understand how real it is. I did stunts for movies. This is, I don't have padding.

I'm not rigged up. I am doing these stunts on my own. I am landing on my spine, on my back, on my tailbone. On, you know, I'm doing, these are all real, real live stunts in front of 20,000 people. every week multiple times a week. And I wish that instead of saying, is it fake, they would ask me how bad it hurts.

Well, I'm a big fan. Thank you for the time. And I will text Dina as soon as we're done. And that would be super cool. I would love to see you on the show because it's so much fun. And then will you come and dance with me on the dance that you have someone come back?

You don't want that. I literally was like everybody's favorite, it, but I had no dance experience. I love that. If there's a time, if you're on, and it's, hey, bring someone on, but if I don't make or break your dance, if I'm just like a part of it, I will do it. But I would not trust you in my hands because you'll hurt something again. And I would feel terrible for that reason.

But I'll text, Tina. Just know that my arm is now metal. Okay. Chelsea, thank you for the time. Have a great rest of the day. And hopefully I'll see you soon. Thank you. Bye.

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