The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Property Brothers’ Drew Scott on How Much the Show Made, Why He Did DWTS & Going into Business with Michael Bublé

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

Property Brothers star Drew Scott sits down with Bobby to talk about the massive success of the show, how much business it has generated over the years, and what 650 episodes later feels like. He shares the real reason he agreed to do Dancing with the Stars, how that experience tied into his wedding, and why he’s now getting back into acting and getting ripped for a new role. Drew also talks about going into business with Michael Bublé, getting recognized for home advice everywhere he goes, what it would actually take for him to work on your house, and how he thinks about money and raising his kids after years of success.   Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCast  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jonathan said, no, with our kids, I'm going to make them just do the regular ticket and they have to wait in lines, which could be like two hours or three hours, because I don't want them to feel privileged. And I said, hey, Jonathan, fuck that. I'm actually going to give my kids the VIP because I don't want to punish myself.

Hey, guys, we're going to talk with Drew Scott, who is one of the brothers from the property brothers, one of the twins that you for sure know that you've either watched one or all their shows religiously or maybe like myself in a dentist chair occasionally. They're super nice. I've been fortunate enough to spend some time with Drew. He's actually the one

that I would say convince me to do dancing with the stars back in the day, and we do talk about that. But just a super talented guy, he is very much an actor, he's very active, he does martial arts, all that we get into. And even how him and his brother started, which they've been kind of hustling since they were seven years old. And they have so many shows.

And he says this too. He's like, we have so many shows. But property brothers under pressure, that's one of them. Don't hate your house with the property brothers. and this is HGTV and also HBO Max and all those properties of the property brothers. But yeah. Here he is.

This is Drew Scott, one of the property brothers. All right. I'm going to bring on Drew Scott from the property brothers who I really like. And I like you on camera, but I like you in person. I feel like when you're by yourself, you really get to shine. You ever feel like sometimes you want to be by yourself, Drew? You know, I agree with you. You ever feel out where your twin brother just drags you down?

He just brings out the worst in you. And you just want to kick him to the curb so you can really grow in life. Yeah, I hear you. Do you ever think? No, it's been a while. Yeah, you ever feel like, because when you and your brother together, you definitely have a cadence and a thing. But when you're by yourself, you get to just be a little more free at times.

Do you feel that way? Yeah. I mean, in general, you know, we've done everything. Like most of our lives, we've worked together. You know, we went to school together, obviously. we played together. We have businesses together. And everybody will tend to lump you into, you have to be with your brother.

The first thing people say when they see me is, where's your brother? I have no idea. We don't sleep in bunk beds anymore. But it is nice to do our own thing. I mean, Jonathan just posted on social. He's got a talk show that he announced that he's working on. And that's super exciting and he's really good at it. And then for me on the acting front and getting back into that side,

it just lets you shine in your individual things. So it's not that everything has to be. together. So are you going and taking classes and kind of redunking yourself fully into acting, or are you just already good and you're just going? Oh, no. I mean, I'm sort of like the no ego lifelong student. Like I love training to improve. In fact, just last week, I just popped back into improv. I mean, with what we do with our TV shows, we are improvising because we don't have a set script and I like that. But I haven't done stand-up sketched improv in 18 plus years. So for me to dive back into that's fun. Any time, you know, I'll still say too, even though I'm on TV and I have

been for 20 years, I'm not like, I'll still put something on tape because people don't know me as an actor. So I work with my acting coach that I've had for 20 years. We'll work a scene and then I'll submit it. So it's fun though. Again, I just want to do what I love to do. I love property brothers. I love helping people. We've done 650 houses for families now with our shows, 650 episodes, but I love scripted. I love story. I love acting. And to dive in on that side is just, that really fills the bucket.

I feel it's sort of completing what I've put on the back burner for the last 18 years. How vulnerable does improv feel? See, it's funny, which maybe you can relate because now you're a parent. When I was younger, I was more insecure and I wouldn't let myself go. Now, as an adult, you know, I have two kids. I'm in my 40s. I have no problem letting go. I don't care if I look silly.

I mean, I look silly. I walk down the street with my kids walking like a monkey because my little guy finds it funny. I don't care what people, by standards think. I'm just a dad trying to have a good time with my kid. And when I stepped back in to the class or doing improv, it was great. It was refreshing to feel that I could tap into things. Again, you're not, have you done improv? Yes. Yeah. So you know, you're not, you know, you don't do improv to try and be funny. You just want to be in the moment, right? You want to react. And if you're doing it well and you're setting yourself free, it will be funny it will get emotional different things will happen and so it's almost like free therapy where i felt the most vulnerable is doing stand-up because you're alone and everything depends on what you are

doing yeah absolutely i find i i had done just a little stand-up in our sort of vancouver and surrounding area nothing huge and i wouldn't say i was great at it because you got to read the room a bit you have to have you know a bunch of your jokes or whatever kind of stand-up you like to do um ready to go and from one audience to the next can be like complete opposites. You have no idea what the one audience is going to like. And so I didn't like that as much. I just like being in the moment and improvising. I love sketch comedy as well because at least you have something you can work through

and play off with other talent. But I don't know if I would do stand up again. We did a thing with, oh my gosh, what's his name? David Spade a few years back that was just a comedic thing that was a little bit But he was in our ear, Jonathan in my ear, and we did stand up with an audience that didn't know that David was in our ear giving us the jokes and he was setting us up to fail. So all these people in the audience just thought, oh my God, this fucking property brother sucks at standup. And it was very funny once you knew that they were in our ear, but the audience just thought I was terrible. What was your home like growing up?

I mean, we grew up in a ranch. So it was sort of like, you know, suck it up and get out there and do the work. So we were from a young age, we were really hands. on physical with the ranch. Our parents were great. I mean, they give us, you know, we don't come from money or anything like that. So we really had to, my parents worked really hard to be able to put a roof over our heads and have us, you know, we did karate and we did different sports and stuff.

But they were always encouraging, but they made us do the work. There was never a shortcut. And we also couldn't start something and quit right away. You're interested in karate? Great, you can never quit. And it was like that for most things. So it gave me, as I got older, it gave me an appreciation for sticking through the tough. because you're not going to get better at something

unless you actually stick through the tough stuff. But yeah, it was great to have a built-in best friend with Jonathan. JD, I think you've met JD, my older brother as well. He, we were the annoying little brothers, Jonathan and me, and JD just didn't want much to do with us in high school. But then we started to have the same group of friends

once we were coming out of high school. But I loved it. I have such great memories from the young years. Did you do a lot of winter sports? No. Coming from Canada, everybody assumes I love the winter and I love to get outside and ski and snowboard. I'm terrible on a board or skiing.

I like summer sports. I should have been born in the Caribbean. Give me a beach volleyball or something like that I can do in the summer. I'll take that. But get outside for 10 minutes, build a quick snowman. But I grew up in Vancouver, so it was really wet. So the snow was really, really wet, and you couldn't really roll it to big snowman like you can on the East Coast.

So we would basically, it was wet and then it would freeze. So we would basically get like a garbage can lid round. flat like this maybe an inch or too thick we would put snow in it it would freeze and then we would just stand it up and it looks like a round snowman that's how we would make snowman where we where we've come from i'm going to do the thing where i go oh canada my radio shows in a bunch of canadian cities and so there's some canadian comedians that i really like and i don't know if you consume any canadian media at all but i'm going to do the thing have you seen the nirvana not the band but nirvana the movie the band those guys are so freaking funny i haven't seen it yet i know

of it and I look forward to seeing it and I've had several people tell me about it but no they also did the uh the the blackberry the blackberry movie which the blackberry movie yeah like yeah yeah that was my thing where because I'm from Arkansas and people will go oh do you know this person and I'm like I don't I'm just from Arkansas I don't know everybody so I just did that to you from Canada you did you say do you know Joe from Canada yeah yeah yeah of course I do he's great yeah we get that all the time but no they're great like I was just I did the podcast for Julie Kim I don't know if you know Julie Kim comedian. She's hilarious, but she's from Vancouver as well. And it's, it's kind of funny when I bump into people down here in L.A. that I don't realize or from Canada, but pretty quick you realize.

Actually, I bumped into Matthew Lillard yesterday. You know the actor? Shaggy. That's what I know. And I thought he was Canadian because his name kept coming up over the years filming in Canada and whatnot. And I just thought he's just a really nice guy. And I'm like, oh, he's obviously Canadian, but no, he's not. I realize I'm wrong. So you never know. So if somebody's so nice, you automatically fill their Canadian. Like, I felt that. It has to be. Yes.

Yeah, you know. Or they're going to kill you. Is that self-absorbed? Yeah, yeah, one of the two. Yeah, exactly. I pretend to be nice, but I'm actually a psycho killer, so look out. When you and your brother were getting like through high school, when did you guys decide you wanted to do a project together?

Well, you know, we were always go-getter. So from a young, young age, our parents saw that, that Jonathan and I, we did everything together, but it's nice when you're young and trying to figure something out to have a built-in backup. So we supported each other. and you get more confidence when somebody else is in your corner. And so we started our first business at seven years old. We were making these decorative hangars,

sort of like weaving nylon around a hanger with a little rosette and selling them to family friends door to door. And we had seen this at a craft sale and we thought it looked good and we thought we could make some money. So we were a little, you know, wheeler and dealers at a young age. We started selling them. We started selling thousands of them. And then we found a woman from,

she had a chain of American paraphernalia stores in Japan. And she started buying them by the thousands. from us as well. So at seven years old, without any real influence from our parents, Jonathan and I were balling our way to the bank with this hangar business. And then we got, we realized, what was that? Oh, I'm sorry. I was going to ask if you got to keep all the money at seven. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Whatever. Growing up on a ranch too, like we would have, we were like the union negotiators with our parents. We're like, okay, we know you got cheap labor because you got three kids here working the ranch, but we need to get paid. So they would give us like a nickel of board when we

paint the fences. And then I negotiated up to 25 cents a board. And we would clear, like, we had an acreage and there were giant like boulders and rocks. And it was just, it wasn't great for out in the field with the horses out there and stuff. So instead of my dad spending like $100 to get a rock pick, which is like a rake that goes behind the truck to get this done by a professional piece of machinery, he has three young boys. So he would just send us out to the field with a bucket to pick these gigantic rocks. So we're like, no, I need to get 10 cents a bucket. Then it was 25 cents. I'm like, I'm doing this for 50 cents for a dollar a bucket. And then finally my dad's like, you're too expensive. I'm going to get help elsewhere. So we just learned to negotiate

and be go-getters. Whatever we made, we kept. We weren't allowed to just have my parents buy it. They wouldn't let us make them buy us something. If we're at a store, good, earn it, and you can buy it yourself. And I think that stuck with us as we got older. So Jonathan and I, we had a lot of energy and we were in, you know, musical theater. And then we realized we could entertain. If we were clowns for Parks and Rec, we could entertain and get paid to entertain. And we had a blast with it.

So that's how we got into entertaining. And then Jonathan started to do magic. And then I got more into the acting side. And that's sort of what's paved our two different paths for some of what we do. Property Brothers was literally just, we were flipping houses when we came out of high school just so we weren't struggling artists.

He wanted to be a magician and I wanted to be an actor. And then all of a sudden, after growing a real estate company for 10 years, and I tried to get back to acting, I just started getting host auditions as a real estate expert. That's where Property Brothers came from. I pitched Property Brothers. And then now it's just funny for me to go full circle to come back to where I wanted to be acting.

I literally thought when I was younger that I would have been an action star because I have a martial arts background. I was an eight-time national fight champion. And I was like, I'm going to get all these action roles and I booked nothing. The only thing I ever got was I got one punched in a David Hasselhoff movie. And so here I am 18 years later. Tina Faye put me in one of her series. series in an action role fighting Paul La Pell, if you know Paul La Pell. So it was like me fighting a 60-year-old lady is just a comedic thing that Tina Faye thought would be great. That was

seen by 87 North who does bullet train, the fall guy, nobody. They do all the big action, splashy actions. They put me in one of their movies because they saw Tina's. That went over really well. And then this has moved on to some other projects I have lined up. So it's been it's just been a wild ride. You never know where life's going to take you. Tell me more about your martial arts background. Like when did you start studying and how competitive did you get because it sounds like you fought in a lot of tournaments. Oh yeah. I mean my older brother, he was in it too but he wasn't competitive. He kind of like set back and did his own thing. Jonathan and I almost drove each other to to compete and then to do better.

It wasn't like I didn't want to knock Jonathan down. We pushed each other to do better. And so we ended up being, you know, it would come down to him and me in the final fights half the time. And the reps wouldn't even be able to tell who's who because we're twins. And they're like, wait, is that, this guy, what? And so we started when we were seven years old. Same year we started that hangar business. We started in karate. Our dad literally said, you can go into scouts or you can go into karate. And he made it so exciting.

And so we're like, yeah, that one. And then once we joined, he said, you can't quit. And so in the beginning, I didn't like it because it was forcing me into it. Then I saw the fighting in competition side, and I really got into it. And so I sort of, as a kid, as a young teen, I started fighting in the adult tournaments. And for me, it was just a lot of fun. So we did the provincials and then into the nationals. and we did, there's Cata, team Cada, and then fighting.

Jonathan was better with the form than I was with the different moves. I was better with the fighting. And so for me, it was just a natural progression. I saw that as an actor thinking it's an asset that most actors don't have. And then I never got to use it when I was younger. And so my goal now is before I'm so old that I can't use it, let's get in there and kick some ass. Did you ever consider MMA?

You know, it's funny. I did. So I did Shodiccan, karate, and Aikido. When you look at, so for acting, Taekwondo is great because it's very showy and flips and jumps. We don't do a lot of that. Like Shodikan has a lot of power, just strength and power speed.

And then I thought, well, I like mixed martial arts because if I go up against the jujitsu guy, he's going to get inside my punches, get close to me and he'll take me down and I'm useless. So at one point I started doing a little bit of boxing, a little bit of jujitsu, and just learning a bit of these different things. I never stuck with it.

As silly or vain as it might sound, The only reason I didn't get more into MMA is I didn't want cauliflower ears. And everybody I know who's a fighter that gets into physical sports like that, they have like crooked nose and these big chunky ears. You can't mess with this. I have friends that wrestled and they have. And their ears are never even perfectly cauliflowered evenly because I'm so OCD. I would at least like for them to be cauliflowered evenly.

Like one is always a little. You're sitting there like breaking your one ear so it matches. And it's a bizarre. The cauliflower ear is bizarre. At what age did you have to stop doing martial arts competitively? Well, something I had to stop. I stopped when I was in my early 20s, I think it was, because I was getting more into my, you know,

I played basketball as well. I played at a college level. So I wanted to play college, and then I was starting to get into my work life. And just life got in the way, so I stopped training. By the way, I wanted to wrestle as well. When I was in elementary school, I was wrestling, but I was really tall and skinny.

And I kept just picking up the other kid and throwing them down, and I kept losing. And I'm like, I'm obviously beating this kid. How am I losing? But they're like, your technique was not right. You can't pick them up and drop them. And I'm like, okay, this is not for me if I'm obviously stronger than this kid and I can't win. But the, yeah, the tournament stuff, it was a blast, but it took up a lot of time because

when you train for the national team and then you're on the road, it's, it just eats up a ton of time. It's like theater. I would still do theater. If I didn't, if it didn't take such a huge chunk of my time, because I'm constantly filming, whether it's acting or hosting, I would love to dive back into theater. That would be just the most exciting thing for me. As a ball player, give me your best high school stat line then. Well, my best stat was I was a 43 inch vertical. So when I, this is just out of high school when I was training. So I did two seasons where I played preseason and then I injured myself, so I never got to

play in season. But I could jump and touch my head on a 10 foot rim. I had, you know, my stats were like seven plus blocks a game. I was a great defender. And then I also'm a lefty. So I would always, you know, rack up. I think I averaged around 12 or 14 points a game. But I would take people from the side they didn't expect. And I have nice long arm. So I would block all the big guys down.

From karate, I had a really strong center of gravity. So they would park me up against a 6 foot 8 guy down low. And I would push them out because I was stronger. See, I think this is a drew that more people need to know. Like, we have no idea that you're basically Newt Rockney. We just know you was trying to sell houses. That's it. I always, you know, I just need to get out there and show people that if, even on property

brothers, if someone doesn't go with my offer on the house, I will body slam you. I will take you down off the top ropes. Who do you see doing acting, movies, shows, whatever, that you like what they do. And not that you are trying to mimic what they do, but you're a bit inspired by what they do because you do something somewhat similar. Well, you know, there are so many actors, you know, for me, I like diversity. like I don't want to just be an action guy. I don't want to just be a comedian, comic guy.

I want to show that I have range. I studied acting to show the dramatic side. So for me, the diversity of roles is important. So my production company, we're producing some roles that will really showcase what I can do. And then I'm sort of seated into other projects that are known projects. Alan Richson is an example. You know, he does Reacher and he has that big film on Netflix.

It just came out. I can remember the name of it. But he's somebody I think is amazing. He came in for, first as an actor. It's just from my perspective. I mean, I don't know his whole story, but he was just a giant guy. He's like Dwayne Johnson. He's just a giant guy. People thought that was amazing and intimidating. But he's really studied, like he's really studied his acting or he's improved his acting so that he has emotional range. He's also really, really hit the business side

of it in a smart way so that he's able to grow the kind of projects, work on the kind of projects he wants to do. Dwayne Johnson is the same. I love that he has that range for comedy and in action. Ryan Reynolds, another amazing Canadian. I just love that he is tapped into the business side and they've become marketing experts. So he's grown his brand and his bankability on how they market the brand. But yeah, I mean, the big thing for me on the action front

is I'm not a big brooding, you know, I'm not Jason Statham or The Rock kind of a guy. I'm sort of a goofy dad. I like to be, you know, sort of a bit of a silly dad kind of a character. But why can't that guy be the one that kicks ass? So to me, that's a more relatable character. instead of having to be this big huge muscle-bound guy that kicks ass.

So, yeah, I mean, I'll lean in where it's there, where the opportunities are. And I just like working with great people. And story for me is the most important thing. I've been pitched projects that are comedies where they're just writing for a joke and a setup. Or I've had actions where they're just writing the action, but the story is so weak. The character needs to have some sort of range or arc. And the story has to make sense before any of that, the rest of that makes sense. Well, now I'm curious what your workout was before we started doing this because you were following with proteins. So that means you have a plan. So what were you just doing before we came on?

So yeah, today it was a heavy push day. So chest and, you know, triceps shoulders. So I have a, I can't talk about it yet, but I have a film coming up in the new year that is an action comedy. And then I have another project of a series that's another action. And so I got to, to get rid of some of that dad weight down low and I need to kind of like keep these things going. So I was eating my my beef and broccoli post workout snack. How do you look? 50 grams of protein. How are you looking without a shirt on? You know, do you want me to get naked right now? Is that what you're asking me?

Not not directly. I was just kind of dancing around it. Are they these roles? Because again, there's so much action. There's so much, you're such an athlete. Do you have to have like a ripped up body to do these these rolls? No. I mean, I just, you don't have to.

I just did a movie, again, it's not announced yet. I'll announce it in the next couple of months, but I was leading a in a rom-com. And for that, I didn't have any shirt off scenes. I'm like, good, I can keep the cushion. But what I have coming in the new year, it definitely needs to, I need to whip myself back into shape. But if I feel better that way anyway, you know, I have a two-year-old and a four-year-old, and as you will soon relate, as yours gets older, when you think you have time for

you? You don't. It's taken away from you. So every time I would be ready to sneak over to the gym, I have the gym at the house here and I have everything you can possibly need. Right as I'm about to go, the kids start crying or they need something or they poop a diaper. So it really affects your routine that you can get into to stay healthy. But now Linda and I are getting back into it where a little Pilates, we get my few workouts in. It just makes me feel better. I need to play more basketball. That's the one thing. I don't move like I used to when I was on the court. And I'm 48. You got to keep those ankles pliable. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor.

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And we're back on the Bobbycast. We built a pickleball court here where I live, and playing solo pickleball is a burn and a grind. We have a gym here too, and I try to hit it a few times a week. But if I just play solo pickleball, like that is almost as much as basketball. Oh, I mean, I play ping pong and I sweat.

Like literally, I'm so competitive with everything that I'll sweat, and pickleball is no different. I actually just bought into a pickleball company up in Canada, and I'm excited because I have large aspirations for how we're growing across Canada. But for me, sport is, it's unlike most other things for how it can bring people together. It can improve your health, and it can also improve your state of mind, your confidence, your self-assurance, your drive. That's what basketball did, karate did for me.

And so I'm excited. My little guy is like, Parker was not, the athlete, he was more of the theater kid. you love to sing but now he's starting to get more into sports so all i do is i leave balls in every room of the house so that they can play with it and our little two-year-old she just came out swinging like she looks like a little baseball player or soccer player so if they if either them play basketball i'll be over the moon but i've realized i'm not going to force them into what i want them to do i'll just support whatever they like i just hopefully like sports something that i wanted to do if i had enough of success was to have a sports team like own a sports team and so i i invested and i'm hoping

Nashville gets a pro baseball team. So I've invested way early. So if we do hit it, I'll be a very fractional owner. But I did buy part of a major league pickleball team just because I wanted to own part of a team. What about that? You have any sports teams? I do. Yeah.

I mean, so I've been pitched most sports, the major league table tennis, the pickle ball majors. They just didn't quite work out. I was also pitched like chicken and pickle and a couple of restaurants. front slash pickleball locations. But what I bought into is a hockey team, a major junior. Michael Bubli and I are owners of a hockey team in Vancouver, the Vancouver Giants. And we actually just announced on Amazon where we have a series that will be following our team. It's called hometown Giants.

So that'll air in the next couple of months. But for me, again, that's even better because Mike and I are both from Vancouver. We grew up out here. This is us supporting our community. And the same way, like you're saying, you want to have baseball. come to Nashville. I want the NBA to come back to Vancouver. I have lofty goals to grow from, I have pickleball now, I have hockey. What else can we bring to my hometown? Is there a love for the Grizzlies? They're gone, but do you guys want that back? I don't want the Grizzlies back. I'm not

looking to have, you know, big country come back, but I would love to have a team and I would love to, I think we have enough population in this area. And, you know, Seattle's right there as well. Like, we have enough that we could draw a lot of people to games. So for me, it makes sense that we could have, Canada could have two teams, the Raptors and a West Coast team. I haven't thought about them. It's just exciting.

Like, I've always loved sports. I've loved, and on the business side of my brain, I love the logistics of how a franchise works or a league works. And so now to have a little taste of that with Major Junior for hockey. And then pickleball is different because we have locations for, for the brand iPop that are expanding from the West Coast out.

But it's maybe this is a, you and I'll talk. We'll talk baseball. We'll talk basketball. I think one of the last time I saw you, we were playing in a celebrity baseball or softball game down in Nashville.

We were. It was a long time ago. And the first thing, I haven't thought of Bryant Reeves in a long time. So, I mean, it's probably been 15 years since I've thought

a big country Bryant Reeves and you bringing them up. That's a funny memory. And then two, yeah, we were playing ball. And that's when I asked you, hey, should I even do dancing with the stars?

because I was really on the fence about it and I was working for American Idol and I've credited you with saying hey I never danced before and you told me you had a really great time at it and I didn't realize you were such an athlete like a little bit I feel like you sandbagged me because had I known that you had done martial arts

and played basketball and all this I would have said yeah but you're naturally a gifted athlete but I credit that conversation that we had to me doing the show period remind me how far did you make it? I won Oh, you won your year. I forgot that. Oh, my God. You beat me out. I came, what was I? I made to the finals and I came fourth. Yeah, I won. But you were a way, way, way better dancer than I was. Who was your partner?

Emma Slater was my partner. But, you know, my problem was. So Frankie Munez and I were the two that made up the finals that were not dancers. And again, I'm not a good dancer in any way. But the Jordan Fisher, who won is a professional dancer. He's a Disney kid and he's a dancer. and then Lindsay Sterling, who came second, is a dancing violinist. So there's no way that I was going to compete with Lindsay and Jordan with their grace and their movements. And Len, the one judge who was there for our season, he used to make fun of me. He said, what's with your lobster claws? What are you always doing this with your hands? You look like lobster claws. And I'm like, well, I'm not graceful. So all I was doing it with Emma is I would do strength moves because I was stronger than all the other dancers. So I would pick her up and flip her. I would spin her around. At one point, the producer came over and said, I think you're going to kill Emma.

Can we be careful here? And Emma's like, no, more, more, it's so good. And we ended up being, I don't know what your dynamic is. Who was your partner? Sharna. Okay, yeah. So I don't know what your dynamic was, but like Emma and I were the funny duo. And so we, you know, we had heart.

We had a lot of heart, but just a lot of goofy moments that really people loved. Our-sharna is amazing too, yeah. Our dynamic was, you know how you see like the woman wearing all black leather that whips the dude with the ball gag in his mouth? that was our dynamic because she was just whipping me around the whole time because I had no idea what I was doing and she's hardcore and so I that was us me just every week just gasping for air so basically you guys used a 50 shades inspiration whereas we used like a Ben Stiller movie as our inspiration yeah Emma is like the greatest though you got so fortunate with her as a partner no I did so I actually you know they they sort of asked I don't know if they did for you but they said like who's your dream partner from watching and whatever and I just said, you know, she's the one that my mom is her favorite. I had watched a little bit, not as much as my mom, but I loved Emma's funny attitude. But also, Sasha, it was there too. There was her hobby at the time. And he, when I was dancing, he was one of the troop, so he

didn't have a partner. And so he actually would come from the men's perspective and give me a couple of pointers too. So it was almost like I had a little bit of a two and one, which kind of helped me. But the only reason I did dancing with the stars, I don't know if I told you this, was it was just a few months before our wedding and Linda and I were getting married. So this was 2008, this would have been 2017 or early 2018. And I said to them, I'll do Dancing with the Stars, but Emma, you need to help teach Linda and me our first dance. And I didn't want to do like a boring first dance. I want to do a mashup of a few different songs. So we're going to start with a really generic basic dance and then a scratch track. And then a scratch track. And

And then we moved into Genuine Pony. And then we did a couple other songs. So in our first dance, Sasha, or Sasha Farber and Emma Slater, they taught us the flips, the different moves. It was just so much fun energy. And then they helped choreograph for all, we had 10 bridesmaids and 10 groomsmen. They all came in and joined us for this big epic final dance. And it was the most fun dance party you would ever have at a wedding.

I don't even remember half the wedding. I was so exhausted, but it was so much fun. How did that turn out as far as the big wedding dance? Did everybody kind of nail it? No. So the funny thing is we make fun. So Linda's, there are five siblings on her side. She has, they're the four sisters and a brother.

And so one of her sisters messed up because she started to come over for the group dance while Linda and I were still in the middle of our compilation single dance, just the two of us. And one of her friends, her other bridesmaids did the same thing. And then on my side, a bunch of my guys, they are not dancers. So they didn't screw it up. but it wasn't really as, it didn't look as good as what the girls were doing. But again,

who cares? It was just for fun. Linda got her heel stuck in her dress, but even with her heel stuck in her dress, she still did, I did a spitting flip, and she still did the whole thing and carried up the entire dance.

So it was, yeah, it was hardcore. I'll share, I have a link to it somewhere. Maybe my team can share it with you, but that's all. We just wanted fun. We were in Puglia.

We went to Italy. We did a, our wedding was 10 days. With all our family, we had 305 family and friends with us. and we just did every day it was a different activity. Karaoke nights, the big party dance.

We did another thing that was just basically like a friend of ours if you've heard of Fitness Marshall on YouTube. He basically came out and did this big dance and then we all took cake

and it was just a big like throwing cake at everyone party in the middle just goofing off like a bunch of kids. The Bobbycast we'll be right back. Radio experience

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it was like realtors competing to be realtors. And it was a terrible show idea. But then they liked me, and then I pitched them Property Brothers and they thought, this is interesting. So they pitched the show to HGTV in the U.S., which is the largest home. you know, home and garden type destination in the world. They turned it down because they only wanted husband-wife combos at the time. And then they pitched it to HGTV in Canada who turned it down. And then a network in Canada called W Network, the Women's Network,

they picked it up. And the executive there, her exact words for greenlighting the show was, two young hot guys and tight jeans renovating. Yeah, we'll buy that show. And so we started airing within three weeks. We were the top show of the night. Within three months, we were the top show on the entire. network. So with those stats, we went back to the U.S. and they bought the show. And then again,

within three months in the U.S., we became the top show on HCTV. And we've been there for, well, 18, 18, 19 years. So I would say after the first few years where it really started to explode in the U.S. and then we exploded globally because we're in 160 plus countries, that's where we started to notice. No matter where we were, we were being referenced. I think John Oliver referenced us again on his Sunday. show this last Sunday and it's fun. S&L's done like 10 spoofs on us and we've been there for one skit. I love it. It's just, it just makes it fun because I don't take myself seriously. And I don't care if somebody's making fun of me or inspired by me. I just want you to enjoy what we do.

I have a friend that's a vet, veterinarian, and so she gets a lot of people that are constantly asking her questions about animals and just expecting that she's going to give them a lot of free advice and help on animals. Does this happen with you and people in your life that want house advice? absolutely it absolutely happens all the time in fact i'll catch friends that keep avoiding me going to their house they want to come to our house i'm like why let's go to your house this time or whatever and it's because they're embarrassed they don't want me to come and judge their home i'm like don't worry about it i'm not going to judge you well i will judge you but i'm not going to make fun of you i'll give you pointers if you want no um i won't judge it's uh it is funny or if i'm if i ever have to hop

into like a Home Depot, I'll literally be a couple of aisles over and someone will hear my voice and they'll recognize me by my voice and they'll be running over with their like kitchen plans and ask me for inspiration. And that's great. I mean, I love it. We've had 12.5,000 products in the home space. We, we love it. I have a real estate portfolio. And for me, the main thing is, everyone deserves to live in a safe, happy, healthy home, affordable home. And we're in a, we're in a time right now where everywhere all around North America and a lot of parts of the world is a housing crisis. So hopefully I can do my little bit to make people enjoy where they live and feel inspired by where they live. Do you do the thing that I do where if I see a house,

I zillow it to see how much it would cost? Well, yeah, but I probably have more filters than that. Like I like to see what, because if you zillow it, you know, that's what other homeowners or potential buyers are doing. That doesn't mean it's the value of the house. And so I have more criteria to actually get to what the value is. But in the minds of those other people, I'll know that's what they think the value is. Because a lot of times Zillow gives you a generic rating based on the stats of the area. But it doesn't always take into account renovations that were done on other houses and whatnot. Are you just curious how much stuff costs or can you just kind of bird-dog it and go,

I know how much that house costs by driving by it? Most of the time, if it's a market like here in L.A. where I really know it or in a lot of Canadian markets, at one point when I was in Nashville, a fair bit working, I could tell you. but in an area that I don't know pretty quickly, I can figure out the value within a matter of, you know, 20 minutes because I'll pull up stats and I'll do a quick analysis, whereas most people will just look at a Zillow number. But I find a fun still.

I mean, I love seeing an old house that's run down and knowing, I'm like, I could take 20 grand or I could take 50 grand and I could make that thing sparkle like a diamond. But a lot of people just don't have that. So you see really run down streets. In fact, last year in L.A., I just for funzies for social, I just did a thing where I just randomly went up to people's houses and just fixed some things.

And some people were like, no, go away. I'm going to call the police. I'm like, I'm offering to pay for this and do it for free. So if you want. And I did, what did I do? So I fixed some windows, broken windows, broken door, swapped out some appliances, an old water damage vanity, some yard work. It's just fun because people don't expect it.

But that's the easy part for me. If you just bring me over to your house, I'll give you a nice. inspiring ideas. I'm not saying it wouldn't cost a lot to fix some of these things, but at least I can give you ideas. If someone wanted to hire you as Drew to come and look at their house as the celebrity Drew, have they ever tried to do that? Yeah, all the time, but I don't do that. Like, the only time I'll do something like that, this year I've done two where it was a charity, charities that I work with. And so I offered as a, you know, I think we raised like 100 grand or whatever and I offered to do that as a part of it. But if, you know, if it's just,

friends that are asking. I have no problem just helping them out. But I'm not going to be able to take on someone's full project. I have too much on my plate. But I also have a big team. Like we've, I've built up like I have each city that I work in. I have, you know, six to eight contractors. I have sub-trades. I have designers. So a lot of times I would pull a team together that would do most of the legwork. Have you made a billion dollars? I mean, if you look at our, uh, to the point. If you look at our product line, we've sold billions of dollars of our products. I mean, when we have that many products, it adds up fast. So yeah, I mean, it's, I like that I like that I can grow my business and I like that I can do good for people as well at the same time.

It feels better when you can do both. I think you're low-key so, so rich. There's a difference. And before we started, you were like, ask me anything. So I wouldn't have asked that to anybody that I wasn't cool with. But I think you're low-key so, so, so rich that people don't even understand how rich Drew is. You know, I'm rich in life. There, there we go.

No, I don't, like for me, I don't care. Like, yes, I care about growing businesses. That's my thing. And that's why I look at all the things that are important to me. Our production company, our property brothers brand, I love that. But the sports side, like I was telling you with the hockey team and whatnot, that is a huge part of my life. Sport is a big part. And the acting side and the scripted production company, paperhouse entertainment, those are huge things for me.

And so I just want to focus on my passion and I want to focus on time with the kids and Linda. And as long as I can do all those things, I'll keep at it. At the moment I started to think that I'm just working to make money, I'm out. So you mentioned how you grew up, but now your kids are going to grow up completely different. And I'm going through this now, at least trying to think of how I'm going to approach it. But how do you make sure that your kids aren't jerks whenever they're growing up with a different lifestyle than what you did where you had to go out and work hard for everything?

It's hard and it's not hard, I guess, because Lynn and I are just who we are, right? Like we don't, you know, there's no ego and I'm not into that whole. when people are like, oh, the LA scene, not into that at all. Our core group of friends here are just such amazing down-to-earth people. It's who we surround ourselves with, I think. And that I think will help shape the kids. Again, I'm the same. I'm trying really hard to be a present dad.

Like, you know, if I get pulled away for a film for a month, that's really hard if I'm way for the kids. So Linda really tries to work with me and bring them, so at least see them for part of it. I want to be present. I think that's going to be helped. That's going to really help shape the kids. I want to show them how much I love Lin. Linda and that affection because I think that's important for the kids to see. And I want to have them surrounded by, I want them to surround by kids from all backgrounds.

I mean, I don't want them to be in some elite private school where it's a lot of stuffy attitude. I want them to be real. It's funny. Jonathan said something to me, I think it was last year. You know, you know Disneyland or Disney World how you can get the guide, like the VIP guide? So they'll take you around and it fast tracks you basically. But you pay a fair bit for it.

once you do that it's like sitting court side at a lakers game like once you do that you can never sit in another seat like it's just the best thing ever jonathan said no with our kids i'm going to make them just do the regular ticket and they have to wait in lines which can be like two hours or three hours because i don't want them to feel privileged and i said hey jonathan fuck that i'm actually going to give my kids the vipe because i don't want to punish myself i'll find other ways to make sure the kids don't feel privileged. So yeah, I just don't want to, I don't want to torture myself, but I do want to make sure that they grow up grounded. And we do a lot of charitable work. We take our kids to, like, a sense of home, which is a charity we support, heal the bay. And so we've done beach cleanups.

We've packaged household, like a full house of furniture and decor for families and given it to the families. And we brought the kids to that too. So that makes a difference. I told my wife, I wanted to present some adversity to our baby. And she's four months old. And I've invented a baby weighted vest to just make it a little harder on her. She didn't go for that. You know, though, it isn't a bad idea because when they're trying, when they're so like, ah, a little bit of weight on the chest as they're trying to sleep is actually not a bad thing.

It helps them feel supportive. This is like full weights in the vest, like making it hard to crawl. Like you don't get everything. You know. Yes. You work hard now and then they'll become a, they'll either never be able to walk or you're going to make them into the ultimate athlete, one or the other. All right.

Two final things. And I just wanted to go through because I was looking at the shows that are coming on. And I would just like for you to tell me the difference in these shows. So I have four of them. Number one is Property Brothers Under Pressure. So Property Brothers Under Pressure is, you know, if you think of how we've helped people over the years with buying and renovating a home, we're trying to figure out what to do. We're in a time right now where there is a housing crisis and people can't, it's just so much to tackle. They can't even wrap their head around how they could live in a home that,

functions for their family, how they could afford to have the perfect home that helps them, you know, the kids thrive. And so with under pressure, the last season, we have some families that came together, like two sisters. They brought their families together to get one house because that's how they could afford it. We have other families that lost, two families that lost their homes in the fire. And so they were building back their lives. We have other families that had to build in guest suites because the only way for them to

afford to have space for them in the city where they were was to have a rental income. So that's what it is. It's us helping try and paint the picture for people in the most cost-effective way possible in a time when they're under pressure financially to show them how they can still thrive in life. Everyone should be able to just take a sigh and relax when they're at home. When you're stressed because of where you live, it's not fun. The second one is don't hate your house with the property brothers. So don't hate your house. Again, these are slight different iterations. if you were to think of,

if you were to think of Jeff Ross coming in to roast your house, there was a little bit of element of that because a lot of people, you know, they just, they're done with their home, they hate their home. So that was right before under pressure. That's the show that we did. And so we would come in.

And in the most loving way, it's kind of pointing out the things that really need to work. And the homeowners are also saying, like, I'm beyond done with this house. They just want to leave and find something else. and we were showing people how just no don't hate the house i'll show you how you could love this again you don't have to go and spend on a different property plus when you think about it when you sell

and then buy there are so many different fees taxes different costs that you're paying so you're losing a lot of money on the transactions stay with your house put that money towards fixing it and changing it so even for example there was a family that had two kids that were almost like they were late teens almost adults they had a three better they had a two bedroom home so the kids were sharing a bedroom. So we showed them how to reconfigure their home. We added a nice big bedroom for the other kids. So now they have their own space and it's still worked perfectly. So it's just, it's just helping us reimagine. At the end of the day, we've had 6,000 shows. And so, I mean, it's a little obnoxious. And some of them feel very much in the same vein, but they're just tiny tweaks. What Jonathan

I try to do is we try to bring to the audience what they're asking for through social media or the feedback that the network gets and some people might just be like enough property brothers already other people like the little tweaks okay I got two more though I need I need backed by the bros brother versus brother so backed by the bros have you watched shark tank yes and then like the Canadian version is dragons then I'm actually one of the dragons and so when you look at the dragons or the sharks and people are pitching them businesses and they invest backed by the bros was in in some ways that in a house form people that were pitching us their real estate investments that they were going under on like they just were over their heads and some some people this was like a

a building like a triplex or a you know a four unit building other people it was a commercial space or a lease space and they were just losing their shirt and they didn't know what to do and where to go so we would come in we would assess these investments and then we would bring some you know a lot of times we're bringing our own materials or our own contacts our contractors or designers to help these people get over the hurdle where they were, so they actually had a thriving investment. Some of the homeowners, or some of these investors, would not listen. There's this one young guy. I was laughing. Oh, it was his name John? I think his name was actually John, because he reminded me of a little Jonathan, my brother. He wouldn't listen to other people. He wouldn't listen to us. He thought at

19 years old, he had it all figured out. He had this investment property down in, was it, I think it was Malibu. Anyway, he would not take our advice. He just kept overspending and doing things that were just stupid things to do. And it made for a great episode in the end. And I'm sure he'll have some successes. But he's a kid that like in high school, he started like some sort of a product sales business through social media.

And he had crazy sales when he was just a kid. And he took that money and put it into a property investment. And then he was just blowing it. So yeah, all the stories were really fun. But that show is unlike any other because it was actually investments that we were helping people with versus just helping somebody with their own home.

The other one on my list is Celebrity IOU. Celebrity IOU to me is such a great show because this is us helping huge celebrities. You know, Brad Pitt, Viola Davis, Michael Bublae, you know, these massive names. We've done 70 different major celebrities, Jay Leno, and we're helping them give back to somebody who was really important to them in their life, whether it was, you know, like Hallie Berry was her elementary school teacher. or like Michael Bublai was the two nurses that helped his grandfather before he passed. And so we would go in and we would renovate these people's homes. And so for us, it's really cool because the audience gets to see a different side of these celebrities. And what I think is really amazing is these celebrities don't get paid.

Like if you look at a Brad Pitt, like what does he get like a million dollars to show up for five seconds for something? Like he's such a big name. We don't pay any of these talent to come and do this. we just work with them to give back to somebody they love. And I think it really shows how much heart these celebrities have to be able to be vulnerable. I made Brad Pitt cry. You got to be doing something right if you can make a celebrity like that cry. My final last question only comes because you just mentioned this.

You're on the Canadian version of Shark Tank? Yeah. So the original version is the Canadian version and the UK version. It's Dragons Den. And so I'm one of the Dragons. And it's been great. I love it. I mean, for me, just like in regular life,

I get pitched, especially when it comes to home real estate design products or services. I get pitched on the daily by different businesses. But what I like with Dragonsden is that it takes it beyond that because there are other areas of my life, like the sporting side we've talked about or technology. I love it and I want to get more involved on that side of investment. So it's sort of like a curation of these amazing entrepreneurs that are pitching us. And this is my second season doing it. And I love it.

Do you have to use your own money? Yeah. Yeah, it's all your own money. And you have to do your own due diligence and everything. And it's just like, again, I have like the way we're, our corporate offices are in Nashville, our production companies out of, out of Toronto. But we've built up a team that deals with the investment side of what we do as well. And this is just one extra component with that. I love it.

I mean, honestly, Dragon's Dan. And the Dragons too, like if you look at like, if you look at like, like Arlene Dickinson and some of them that have been there forever. They're so savvy and they've done this for so long, but it's really fun to be able to see what I've learned over the years from business, you know, from the production company to the real estate company and whatnot. And then to kind of blend with these other greats that have been doing this for so long.

It's fascinating. Dragonsden is kind of a more baller name than Shark Tank. So I think if I recall, it's that whoever has Shark Tank, I can't remember is it ABC or who has that. They didn't want to pay the license or whatever for Dragons Den, so they just created their own version Shark Tank to come after it. So some of the sharks have been Dragons as well in the past.

But I love it. I mean, both shows are amazing. I can watch it over and over again. And just the terrible pitches, when everybody comes in pitching, oh, my company's worth $10 million. What are your sales? We haven't had any sales yet, but it's worth $10 million. I'm like, why?

And they're like, I've watched every episode of the show that I'm like, Then why are you coming in pitching a stupid pitch like that? Come on. Drew, I really appreciate the time. I'm looking forward to seeing what you're doing in the acting space. I know you got stuff that's going to be announced soon, but I'm really excited about that for you. Yeah, thanks, man.

Yeah, there's a whole lot of things coming up in the next little bit. So it'll be fun. So hopefully I'll make it down to Nashville again sometime soon. Pop on something down there. Yeah, I would love to see you. Drew, thank you for the time, man. You don't need my rooting, but I'm rooting for you. You're always so nice to see and you were always so kind to me.

So thanks, Drew. And if you do need baby advice, I am here. I have the longest list and I've tested all the products. Car seats, strollers. If you need advice, I can tell you what's best for traveling,

what's best for nap time. I got you. You have a baby line? Do you guys have a baby line? We have some products that are kids' products, but we don't have a specific baby line per se. But yeah, it's in the works.

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