The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - Stella Lefty on “Boston” Taking Off Before It Was Finished, a Bold DM & Dating Vincent Mason
Episode Date: July 30, 2026Singer/Songwriter Stella Lefty sits down with Bobby to talk about the unfinished TikTok that changed everything when “Boston” unexpectedly took off. She shares how stage fright kept h...er from performing, why she hid her musical ambitions and the bold DM that led to her first Nashville writing session. Stella also opens up about moving from Chicago to New Orleans and Los Angeles, becoming an artist after writing for others and how she met her boyfriend, Vincent Mason. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Your boyfriend is...
Vince Mason.
How'd you meet him?
He DME.
What was his DM?
He said he liked thinking about you and I'm.
I was teasing it.
So he sent me the song.
Did he really liked that song, or was he just trying to use that to get to you?
He says he really liked the song.
Hey, everybody.
We're hanging out today with one of the fastest rising new voices in music, Stella Lefty.
She's awesome.
Singer-songwriter who went from posting songs online in college to having one of the biggest
breakout moments of the year with her song, Boston, which is also awesome.
You might know her from her song, think about you, racked up millions of streams,
really introduced a lot of people to her before Boston hit.
She has a new EP that's out called Is This Heaven?
She's getting ready to hit the road.
And I don't know what I expected, but pretty great.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Here she is.
I think you're really going to enjoy her as well.
One of my favorite new artists now, Stella Lefty.
Stella, good to see you.
Bobby, good to see you.
Is that your own name, Stella?
is. Because it's a cool name. My name's not real.
What's your real name? Well, Bobby's my real name.
Is it Robert?
No, Bobby is my real name.
Oh.
But Bones is a fake name.
I kind of thought that.
Right. But your name's also cool, so I didn't know if it was real or not.
Well, Lefty is like a shortened version of my last name.
Well, my real last name is Boonzopolis.
Okay, so yours is also.
No, it's not. It's not at all.
I really believed you. I was like, what origin is that?
Like where is that?
German. Yeah, the Bozoploppinous.
Oh my God, I hate myself.
But you know what?
I'm trusting.
I trusted you.
You don't live here in Nashville.
Mm-mm.
Have you ever lived here in Nashville?
No.
I almost did.
I was supposed to live here.
Okay.
I want to walk through like your, it feels like a superhero, your origin story because we haven't met.
I know.
You know?
We have.
So, bear with me.
Mm-hmm.
You grew up near Chicago?
Mm-hmm.
The reason I think I know that is,
I saw, I'm a massive Cubs fan.
You are?
Big Northside.
Oh, yeah.
Where are you from?
My whole life.
Well, I'm from Arkansas, but my stepdad and his dad were massive Cubs fans, and the Cubs
suck forever.
This is before you.
Yes.
So they sucked forever.
And so I suffered with them forever.
Oh, so now you can own it now.
You can own it now.
Like you're a real Cubs fan.
Yeah.
And so now, once they start winning, you don't really have to tell anybody.
And some people will be bandwagoners.
But that's okay.
We don't care.
We don't care. We're just happy to have won.
I mean, I would say that I'm like relatively bandwagon-y in terms of like, I mean, I grew up going to Cubs games, but I wasn't watching every single game.
Yeah, but if you grew up near there, you're automatically in.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, you're in.
I saw you throwing the first pitch.
Yes.
So I thought, oh, she just, and then I looked and it said you grew up near Chicago.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's our team, Cubs.
So not the White Sox, though?
No.
Because I was not a White Sox fan.
No, like my mom grew up outside of Chicago, like in a town near the town that.
that I grew up in.
And her family is, like, the biggest Cubs fans ever of all time.
Like, has, like, Cubs attire that they wear, like, on a daily basis.
Like, Cubs dresses, everything.
So, like, you know, it's, like, in her blood to be, like, a Hup's Cubs fan.
So you lived in that town.
What's the town called?
Glencoe.
So you lived there, and you moved out at what age?
I went.
I moved to New Orleans to go to school when I was 18.
And you went to New Orleans where, like, I know.
No, Tulane is in your...
I went to Tulane.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
So we're working from Blank Slate.
I like this.
I know, no, it's good.
Okay, so you went to Tulane.
Uh-huh.
Tulane's hardcore because, well, it's in New Orleans.
Like, did you go hard?
Yeah.
I did.
But it was truly, like, the best four years ever.
So you went all four years?
All four years.
I was a public health major.
Why, really?
Oh, so you had like normal person, like, give back to the world-type aspirations.
Yeah.
Yes.
No, I wanted to go into public health.
But obviously, you know, unfortunately, my job.
degree just like rots away. So public health means what? Like what was your idea? Okay, this is the
thing. So my, I really, I was horrible at math my whole life, like really not great. Really also
not great at science, but I wanted to do something with like maybe communications in public health,
like do something in that orbit. But I wanted to work for like, like, I guess I was like ideally like
hospitals or something in like the medical world because my friend growing up,
had cancer instead of my mom.
So I was like really, I feel like surrounded by like a lot of, there was a lot of medical
conversations happening all the time.
So that's what I was like passionate about.
But I don't remember like what exactly the goal was.
The goal, like, I feel like as time passes, I'm just like, I don't, but I really, I was
super passionate about it then.
I just, it's dwindled since.
But you finished?
I finished.
So upon finishing.
I wanted to be a songwriter.
So you had already in the middle of school decided,
you're going to finish, but you also, when you finish, you're going to pursue writing songs.
Did that realization happen in the middle of your four years?
It happened more like in the middle of my senior year.
That's like really when I decided I wanted to like figure out what the songwriting thing would be.
Who do you write songs with in New Orleans?
Are you writing more?
Alone.
I didn't know.
There was no one that I knew of that was like doing that.
So I was just like in my bedroom doing it and posting.
That tends to be the case is that.
before people get here, they do it by themselves because there's not a community of songwriters
really anywhere else unless you're New York or Los Angeles.
Totally.
And so you learn to write by yourself, but then once you start doing co-writes, that's kind of weird
because you've only written by yourself for so long.
It's so weird.
You're like, what's my purpose?
Like, when do I talk?
When do I sing?
And do I share?
Am I over sharing?
100%.
Because you're writing with people you really don't know and you're trying to write emotional
songs about, it's weird.
It's actually a crazy.
If you break it down like that, it's like, wow, I can't believe that, like, that's what we do, you know?
So you're riding at Two Line, are you playing any shows, like bars or anything?
No, I had huge stage fright, huge.
Like, would not sing in front of anybody.
Did one show.
We had, like, a frat organized something.
And, like, there was this band, like, a bunch of my, like, some of my guy friends were trying to, like, do this band and sing at this, like, frat thing.
And they asked me to be the lead singer.
and I said yes, and then like three weeks go by, we haven't rehearsed yet, and I'm like,
I can't do it.
Back out.
And then there was like one time where I did sing, like covers.
Well, you backed out and you stayed backed out?
Yeah, no, I didn't do it.
I thought the end of the story was you showed up.
No, no, no.
There's no.
There's no, no, there's no heroic moment where it all like happens.
I was just like, no, I'm not, I can't do it.
I had the worst stage fright.
Like, I would not get on stage.
But how did they even know that you could sing?
I was posting.
That's what was weird.
And I still don't understand why I felt.
felt so comfortable posting myself singing, but could not do it in front of another person.
Okay, so I can understand the safety of posting. However, what's different about posting is
you're opening yourself to all this critique from people that you don't know? That you don't know.
And it's just wild and free in the comments section. So did you look at your comments?
I did, but there were like five comments. These videos weren't crushing. It was like five comments.
And they were like emojis. You know what I mean?
Did you feel weird posting your first video?
No.
Because I think my first video was in like 2020 or maybe even, well, okay, so I was posting on
Musically when I was like 14.
Like music.l.
Yes, yes.
And I was posting like lip syncing videos, you know, and like people were doing like this
and whatever.
So I just like don't think I ever really thought about it.
But the first time I probably like posted a cover, I don't even like it was like probably
2020 and I didn't think about it really.
And you didn't feel weird or you didn't watch it back and go, I don't know, should I leave this up?
No.
I mean, I still do that with every video I post and I've been doing this a long time.
I do that more now.
I don't think I care them because I was like, what?
Like 10 people are going to view this video?
You know, like now I think I watch my videos more and like critique myself.
But I try not to.
I think it's like, that's not fun.
When did you decide that's what you wanted to do like forever as opposed to that's what you want to do for fun now?
Like, why is you writing songs?
Like when?
Yeah, like when did it go, okay, I want to write songs, but now I really want to write songs from my whole life.
I think the first session that I was in.
Okay, yeah, that's when it was because I, like, in the middle of my senior year, when I, like, decided that I wanted to try being a songwriter, it was.
It was because I think, like, somebody had reached, I don't remember, like, what it was, but I think somebody, like, DM me or we had, like, been messaging.
And he was a publisher, and he was, like, I potentially want to sign you to my publishing company.
because he had like seen my TikTok videos or like,
I don't remember what the exact thing was.
But then he flew me to Nashville like the day after I graduated college.
And so I was in my first ever session with other people that week.
And in the session, I was like, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life.
But I didn't know for sure when it, you know, prior to that moment.
How did you trust a guy sliding in your DM saying,
I want to fly you to another state?
I do that multiple times.
I did that multiple times because that person is not my person.
publisher now. My publisher now also
DM me like two months later being like
Gotney songs and I was like
No. I just wouldn't trust a dude
in my DMs. I don't know
I think I was just like really
I really wanted to figure it out. I was like
really determined to figure
it out and like I was posting every day
multiple times a day and so I think I was just
like whatever it takes to like
get where I need to go
Were you doing anything original in those posts?
Yeah I was writing original. And how did
you feel about those? Was there
any sort of being self-conscious about what you're writing?
Because you know covers people like,
because they're famous, their big songs.
What about your original stuff?
Like, I'm trying to remember if I felt the sort of way about it.
Can you look back at them now and still be proud of them,
or do you go, oh, I really didn't know what I was doing?
I definitely think that.
I'm like, these songs are horrible.
But I released them on Spotify, like through Distro Kid.
Like, I was putting some songs out that were, like, demos.
Like, so I don't know.
I don't think, though,
That, like, I feel like I, I just, I don't know, that girl.
Were any of those good?
No.
No.
No, but my brother's still listen to them.
Well, they're not supposed to be good, right?
I mean, they're bad.
Like, if I showed you one right now, you'd be like, wow, that's really tough.
I probably wouldn't, but I'd probably go, oh, this is when you were learning.
Mm-hmm.
And then you get around other writers.
It's kind of weird to get around songwriters that have done it for a long time, and you see the tricks.
You learn the tricks, like the double meanings.
Oh, for sure.
Oh, for sure. The internal rhyme. I was like, what is that?
Who even knew you tried to rhyme words in the middle of lines, not just at the end?
That's what I'm saying. Like, all that stuff's like, and then you're around people that do it all the time and do it really well.
And you go, oh, I've got a lot of growing to do. Like, I really want to do it, but I have a lot of growing to do.
Totally.
Who did you write with where you felt that way early on? And you went, dang, that person's so good.
That was my first, I felt that on my first session. Because my first session, the publisher that, like, I had been talking to you really early on, like, he set me up with.
Jackson Free, who's an amazing writer in Nashville. And then, oh my God, I'm blank on his name, but he's
the singer, like, for the band Knightley. And so that was my session. It was with them, too, and I had
never been in a session. And I just remember being like, wow, these guys are so good. And they,
like, actually know what they're doing. Like, I didn't even really know that a chorus needed to,
like, have different chords or, like, you know what I mean? Like, I'd listened to songs, so I kind of knew,
but I didn't really understand that from, like, a writing perspective. And so I just felt that in
that session, like, wow, there's so many things I didn't know, and, like, these guys know
how to do that.
So when you're coming to Nashville right after school, were you planning to maybe move here
from New Orleans?
You weren't going to stay in New Orleans, right?
No.
Well, I went back home.
Back to Illinois.
Yeah.
And then, like, the trip that I had come out here, that the publisher brought me out here
was for, like, a week.
And I really wanted to, like, sign a deal with him.
And I really wanted to, like, move out here.
because that was like, you know, that would have been a huge deal for me.
I was like, if I signed this publishing deal, that means that like I'm doing something right in my head, I believed, you know, which makes sense.
I think a lot of people feel that way.
But I, that deal fell through.
And so I was like, what am I going to do?
And then my publisher now reached out.
And then he was like, you got to go to L.A.
That's where you should go.
I love Chicago.
It's probably second or third favorite city, maybe first that I've never lived in.
But I've spent enough time there.
I just can't do the winter.
It's so tough.
It's awful.
But it's bad here too.
Like you guys don't have a great winter here.
We don't have a great winter.
I love Chicago.
I don't know how people will stay there.
But it's so, the thing is though, the summer, have you been there of the summer?
Yeah.
That, I think is like redeeming.
Yep.
If you're there for the summer, you just like, I think you just tough it out until it comes back.
Summers are awesome.
But I remember going to Wrigley in the spring and freezing my face off in the spring.
I know.
And I would go around because they would offer, you know, sign up for a credit card, get a free t-shirt.
I wouldn't wear enough clothes, so I'd go sign up for like eight credit cards and have like,
yeah, we're eight t-shirts.
And we're talking about we're in April or May and it's coming off like Michigan.
I'm just freezing my face off.
Did you do any winter sports?
No.
No, I was a tennis player and I think we, yeah, it was never cold for tennis.
But I played throughout the whole, like I played even when during the winter, just like it was an inside place.
But inside?
Yeah, it was inside.
Were you a good tennis player?
No.
I loved it, but I wasn't great.
Did you play high school tennis, club tennis?
I played for my high school, yeah.
I, like, tore my ACL before I could play varsity, so I was JV for like two years.
Because of your torn ACL?
No, like, I was JV before I tore my ACL.
And senior year, like, I really thought that I would get to varsity because a lot of the seniors, I think, do.
But I tore my ACL, like, right before that time happened.
And so I just, like, didn't do that senior year.
I ran tracking.
field. So with a torn ACL, after a torn ACL? You chose to run instead of play tennis.
Uh-huh. But I didn't want to do nothing and I really like, I think sports in my high school were a huge
thing. Everybody did them. And so I think for me, like, I didn't know what to do because training for
tennis would start like in the middle of summer. And also, it also started the middle of summer for like track
and field. And so by the time that would like come around, all my friends were like, you know, doing
sports and I was like, I need to like do something. And so I started running. Were you learning music
though in high school at all? I was playing the guitar in high school, but like very as a hobby.
Like it was so not taken seriously. Were you the guitar playing kid in high school to your
friends? Or were you just doing it in your room? In my room. In my room. What inspired you to get a guitar?
Somebody in your house play guitar? No. No. I started, I actually don't even know why I was so young when I started
learning I was like seven or something but I was just like I really want to learn who who was it that
you loved like Taylor I loved Taylor and the first song I learned how to play was Tim McGraw so I think
I probably just wanted to learn how to play off her songs but I don't really remember like it was so
long ago I was so young but I just I always wanted to sing I loved singing always and so I think
maybe that was my way of like I'll be able to sing if I can play the guitar and I can you know and you
never sang though no publicly
No. Never.
My friends, like, didn't even know that I, like,
when I, like, moved to L.A. to, like, pursue this and, like, really give it a shot.
Like, they were, like, so, like, when I did my first ever shows, they were, like,
we've never seen you like that. Like, seeing you on stage is, like, weird.
Like, it's off-putting.
Like, we didn't even know you, like, saying, really.
Like, this is bizarre.
It sounds like Mike. Mike produces this.
Mike's one of our really good friends.
And I was doing a bunch of stand-up.
And Mike writes really funny.
jokes and Mike never talks. Never talks. Never talks. If you meet him, it's month before he says a word
to you. Not because he doesn't like you, he doesn't talk. And he came out and was just opening shows for me
doing stand-up and people were floored. Not that he was telling jokes, but that he spoke at all.
That's what it sounds like when you're talking about your friends saying you sing.
Well, that's epic, actually. That's amazing. That's like, that's the perfect, like, you know,
it's a good way to be. Like, no one knows it even.
talking and all of a sudden you're like a comedian.
But that's what your friends had to be thinking about you then, right?
If you're moving to L.A. to do music.
Yeah, but the thing is I was posting.
Like that was the weird through line where everyone was like,
it's not the craziest thing because I was posting so much.
Like I truly was posting five to ten times a day every single day.
So they were like, okay, clearly like you really want to do this,
but I just think they had never seen it in person.
So it was like weird.
You know what I mean?
They were like, this is just we didn't even.
When you moved to Los Angeles, how does it work their writing?
I know how it works here.
How do it work there?
It's, I would say it's like not so, I mean, maybe it's more, I guess, I've, okay, I've always felt that in L.A.
It's, like, more, like, strict.
Like, I always felt like it was more, like, lax here.
Like, people write with their friends out here a lot.
I feel like is the culture, like, you write with your, like, buddies.
And you start at, like, 11.
but I guess I think that people think maybe it's more like a, you know, like regimented out here.
But I don't know.
Like I think I haven't done a session in a really long time.
Like I write pretty much with like my friend, Grace.
I do like everything with her.
But I don't remember.
Like in L.A.
I think it's just, I don't know.
This is my interpretation of what happens in Nashville versus L.A.
Okay, yeah.
Give me your take.
In Nashville, I know how it works.
most rights are in a random room, mostly with some people that are in your camp if you're cool enough or successful enough to have a camp.
Otherwise, if you have a publishing deal, a publisher sets you up and you're just kind of bouncing around and you write from 10 to 3 or 4 p.m.
And then maybe you come back and you meet again if you're not finished.
But it's 10 to 4 for the most part and it's very much business.
You go in, you write your song.
And then you get out.
And you get out.
Okay, so it's pretty similar like that in L.A.
In L.A. My feeling, and I'm probably wrong on this, is that people are writing at night and they're starting with melody first.
Oh, I start with melody first. Okay. I start with melody first for sure.
I think here a lot of times, and it's becoming more, a little more like that, but it's not all, a lot of times it's concept first, you know, some lyrics first and then we'll build the melody or.
For my friends that write in L.A. I always felt like when they would talk about it, it would be random hours.
and melody first and we'll figure out everything else after that.
I mean, that is true.
But there's a, yeah, we start at 1 p.m.
Everything's at 1.
You guys are 11.
Oh, I've surprised it's that early, but why?
So you can like have lunch and like some.
Yeah, there's like, it's like you start at 1 and there's.
No, there's hours of talking.
That's actually the difference.
In L.A., I feel like in a session, you start at 1, but you're talking and like hanging
out for like two hours.
So you're not even starting until like, you know, two or three for three.
Yeah, we're here.
you got to get out by four.
Right.
And there's the talk to.
But there's a better balance out here.
Like, people have family.
I feel like in LA, like, you know, there's less of like, I'm going to go home and, like,
be with my kids or be with whoever I'm married to or dating or whatever it is.
Like, there's a nice work life balance, I think, out here that maybe LA doesn't have.
Like, if you don't finish your song 4 or 5 p.m., like, you'll be there probably until, like, 9 or whenever you finish.
Here you go home.
Here you go home.
Yeah.
And you'll revisit it, or one person will finish it.
Or it just dies.
Or you won't revisit it.
It will just.
Or it just dies and someone else uses that concept later and you go, wait, no, that's our song that we wrote that you just recycled into that.
And they're like, okay, we'll give you 2%.
Like literally.
Oh, that's something else here.
Here, we don't really do 2%, 5%.
I know.
Yeah.
If there's three people, it's 33%.
But that's how I've always done it.
I think that that's like a good way to go about it.
In L.A., I also think the people I've surrounded myself with are like that.
I, like, there's not so much of the nitty-gritty of like, okay, how much did you write?
If you didn't write so much, you'll get, you know what I mean?
It's more even.
Yeah, that was always odd to me, and not wrong, but odd to me.
But I guess both ways are odd because, again, I have friends that have sat in rooms,
and they will say they didn't contribute much that day because either they weren't feeling it.
They weren't feeling good, but yet they get 33% of the song if it's a three person right.
But in L.A., I have friends like, man, I kind of killed it, and I only got 5%.
I know.
It is weird.
It's a backwards.
But it's so hard.
Like, how do you even like...
I know.
Because sometimes, and this is what's crazy about it,
like sometimes in energy alone, even if you didn't say anything,
is like the reason why the song was good.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you were just...
If you came in to a writing session
and you and I were writing together and it was just us too,
but like you didn't say anything,
but your vibe like made me super inspired, like, you know?
And that's why it's evenly split here for the most part.
Right.
is I think vibe, presence, being in the room matters an equal amount.
Like, we've all committed that whatever happens in this room, we all own it equal share of it.
Right.
Whatever we all did this day, like, contributed to wherever it ended up.
So I'm kind of with that.
Really?
I mean, like, yeah.
I mean, I think, like, it's hard.
Like, I think for me, like, I really stopped writing.
Like, I really haven't done a session in such a long time because I think,
I think I got lucky and I found like my friend happened to be the my favorite co-writer of all
time. So like that just is easy. Like I bring her into things and you know like I want her to be.
So it's just it's different. I think it depends on your relationship with who you're writing
with and like if it's your best friends that you're writing with you're like I want to give you
an equal. You know what I mean? It's like I'm not going to screw you over on this song.
Who's the friend? Her name's Grace Anger. And was she your friend before you guys started writing?
Yeah. We didn't write for like the first year of our friendship. Where'd you meet her?
I moved into her house in L.A.
Random, as in she needed a roommate,
and you didn't know each other, or how'd that work out?
Random, because I, when I met my publisher,
and he was like, you got to go to L.A.
I was like, I don't know anybody in L.A.,
so, like, am I going to, like, who am I going to live with?
And he was, like, I have this writer signed to me,
who's the best, and he has this house that he, like, grew up in.
It was, like, in his family, and he had six girls living in the house and him.
And I just asked him, like, if I could just sleep.
his extra room for like a few months and she was my direct roommate and so he just became how big was his
house well there was like two it was like one i don't know it was like separated it was like one house
and then another house but they were on the same land and like so you got lucky that she's cool i got so
lucky she was cool and talented yes i like i hit the jackpot because i and also like she's just yeah
the best person i've ever met so i'm like wow it's great that we also like to write together like
What are the odds of that happening?
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I had a roommate once.
I didn't want to eat her food.
I didn't know her.
It was a random type situation when I moved to Austin.
And I was starving.
You didn't want to eat her food?
I didn't want to eat her food.
Like when you would cook?
Wait.
Well, I just didn't want to eat her food.
Like I got, she bought it.
It was her food.
I get it.
There are rules.
And it had one piece of ham out of her.
package of ham. Oh, you don't want to eat her food in the fridge? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't on a plate in front of her. No, no, no, no, no. And I had a piece of her ham. I was starving.
And I wrote a note and I said, hey, minus one piece of ham. Sorry about that. She built, she built
me for like $1.18. For the one piece of ham? For the one piece of ham. Yeah, that's a bad energy.
Her and I didn't end up good friends. Yeah, I would assume. And we didn't write any songs together.
She's like tallying up in her head when you like do anything. I'm starving. I just wanted one piece of
and I got billed for the one piece of ham.
That's crazy.
That's a bad roommate.
Yeah, I mean, she should be looking out for you.
Did you ever live in the dorm?
Did I ever live in a dorm?
In Tulane.
Yeah, for two years.
Did they make you live in the dorm your freshman year?
Yeah.
How'd you like that?
I loved it.
I loved it.
I loved it.
But I love being around people.
Like I, the best thing ever is that like you just, everybody's around you.
Like you can just go upstairs and there's like five year friends.
Go downstairs, five year friends.
Your roommate's your friend.
I still have a couple friends from living in the dorm.
The best thing about it for me was I don't make friends easily.
And I was also working all the time and going to school.
So I don't think I would have made friends.
But like you said, there's so many people there.
It's hard not to.
And I always advise everybody, live in the dorm, your freshman year.
Definitely.
It was massive for me because I don't make friends easy.
I'm assuming you do.
You're pretty outgoing.
I'm pretty outgoing.
But it is like the concept of, and I remember how it felt to like be a freshman and show up.
and be like, oh my God, I have to, like, start over.
Like, I feel like growing up I had the same friends that, like, I've, you know what I mean?
I don't remember making those friends because they were just always my friends.
But then freshman year of college, you're like, wow, I have to like introduce myself to these people and, like, see if we get along.
And, like, it's a whole other thing.
But I don't know.
I do feel like I'm pretty outgoing.
Did you feel like you had the opportunity to start over, like, be something that you weren't known for?
Was that exciting for you?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
I had zero confidence in high.
school, like negative confidence. So I think when I got to college, I was like, no one knows
anything about who I was in high school, anything ever. So I was just like, wow, I get to like start
over and, you know, maybe all like get a boyfriend. I don't know. Why did you choose too late?
It was inspiring. I, the public health program was really great there. And I visited, like a family
friend of mine went there and I visited her when she was a sophomore, I think. And I just fell in love
with the school. I loved everything about it. I loved
first of all, like the weather. People
will obviously say that it's like so insufferably
hot. But obviously Chicago
was like the opposite. So I was like, this is great.
Yeah, New Orleans is brutal.
It is really hot.
It is really hot. I feel like if I lived
in New Orleans my freshman year, would have been
the freshman 15? It had been the freshman 55
because the food there is so rich.
He was eating all the po-boys. Yeah.
The freshman 55.
Yeah. The food there is
it's great. It's so good.
But it's so rich.
Do you have, like, an appreciation now for a Cajun food just because you lived there for four years?
I do.
I'm, like, really, unfortunately, picky.
Like, I'm a really picky eater, and it's so lame.
And it, like, has been lame forever.
And I want to get over it, but I can't.
Like, but I do really, I appreciate it.
And, like, we would go to Jazz Fest.
I went to Jazz Fest, like, my senior and junior year.
And the food, have you been to Jazz Fest?
It's one of the best festivals, yeah.
It is.
It really is.
It's, like, the energy there is amazing.
but the food is so good and I, you know, the mac and cheese.
Well, have you ever been to a crawfish boil?
I'm from Arkansas, yes.
I mean, ate a lot.
A lot.
Do you love it?
Here's the thing.
I don't like getting my hands dirty.
You don't?
Not really.
And I've probably done it 20 times, but, you know, like they dump them out.
Yes.
And there's the corn of potatoes.
Yes, I die for that.
I love those.
You can only do this so many times.
And it's a lot of work for not a lot of.
of meat. I think it's like, but it tastes so good. It tastes so good and there's something so
like, I don't know, it's like a full activity. I'm not trying to have an activity when I'm trying
to eat. No, no. And then it stays there in your nails. I know, but then I would get really gross
about it to be honest. Like we had crawfish boils all the time because like Tulane loves to celebrate,
I mean New Orleans love to celebrate anything. Like there's a holiday every week, parade every week.
It's the best place on the planet. They're celebrating all the time. And like we were just
eating crawfish and having crawfish boils, like, every single month, multiple times a month.
And I, like, truly would just be sitting on the ground, like, really going at it.
And I did not give a fuck.
I don't know if I'm like, can I say that.
You can say that.
But it's just so much work for so little meat.
But you can eat so much of it.
I agree.
You can sit there for hours.
You know what I mean?
But the amount of work you got to do to eat for hours.
It's just constant.
And I don't, they don't make.
So to me, I'm going to pass now.
I had, again, probably 20, 30 crawfish boils in my life a lot.
But it's like even eating like a crab, it's good, but it takes for freaking ever.
I know.
But I'm less enticed by that.
I would way rather, I don't know.
There's something about, and maybe it's like where I was happy.
Maybe it was just the energy of like New Orleans and eating them and like having a crawfish boil there.
I don't know.
But like, I could never be turned away from it.
Halfway through, I would just eat corn and potatoes.
But the corn is fired.
It's great.
Yeah, yeah, because it has all the flavor from...
Exactly.
Yeah, that's what I would do.
I would go, like, this sucks.
I'm just going to eat corn and potatoes.
Okay.
Well, maybe we need to go and, like, just try.
Maybe you need to try again, just once more.
No, no, I'm good.
I got my fill.
It's just too much work.
Just with me one more time.
For not enough meat.
Okay.
What advice would you give someone when they move to a city and don't know anybody?
What advice would I give someone?
Like, the way that I moved to L.A.,
and didn't, or is it college?
Is it college or is it just a city?
Well, it could be both because you did it twice.
I've done it before and it's really, it feels foreign.
And even the news channels are weird.
Everything's weird about it.
Everything's weird about it.
And you think I'm never going to fit in here.
But I think I grew so much from doing that.
It's just dumping you in a bucket of water.
So, like, what did you learn from moving somewhere and not knowing anyone either time?
I, I mean, I think.
think like as I mean I've been relatively outgoing for my whole life but I do think that like moving
to a new city and not knowing anybody allows you to like be different like not different versions
of yourself but like figure out like who you are in a completely different social setting and like
what I don't know like that's how I felt when I when I got to Tulane I was like wow I haven't
made a new friend in so long like this is such a different experience I'm in I'm so like not so far from
home, but like, you know, it just everything felt so different. But I think, like, I don't know,
it just gave me, it was different because I really felt like I wanted to reinvent myself. Like,
I wanted to be a more competent version of myself. I wanted to be, like, boys did not think I was
cute for the first 18 years of my life. Like, truly, I was not cute. And so I think when I got
Tulane, I was just like, I want to, like, you know, kiss all these boys. I don't know.
It just, but I did it.
It wasn't even that.
I just, I don't know.
Like, I think, I think the biggest thing is just, like, finding out who you are in different settings and, like, going out of your comfort zone to just, like, figure that out, whatever that is.
Like, joining a club or getting involved with, like, whatever's going on in the community, whether it be in L.A.
Or when I was in college or whatever, like, just involving yourself in things.
To me, when I would move somewhere.
Kissing all these boys.
Yeah.
I never had that where I was kissing all the boys.
But whenever I would move somewhere.
somewhere and I didn't know anybody, it did two things for me.
One, it allowed me to shed whatever light skin that I didn't want to have to keep
carrying with me freely, because nobody knew of that.
So, like you said, you can reinvent yourself.
And it was never a full reinvention for me, but I got to, like, lose a couple of things
that maybe I didn't like to be known for.
The other thing was, it just showed me how freaking strong I was.
Totally.
Like, you can do that.
Yep.
You can do that.
It's very hard.
It's very scary.
but I think doing that
kind of I proved to myself
that it could be done
and I could do like really almost anything
I was living in a city where I knew nobody
not one single person
and I built a whole community in life
from scratch.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
It is crazy.
Not from being born there
because like you said,
when we're born somewhere
we have a community built on top of us
because it's like your parents,
friends, kids.
It's like it's, yeah,
it's totally different.
What do you think about just L.A. in general?
I have mixed feelings about LA in general because I love my friends in LA and I feel so lucky to have like been thrown into like a pool with them because I moved into their house.
But like I think driving in LA is incredibly frustrating.
Thumbs down.
And like, you know, I don't think that there's that much of a community in LA which has been the thing for me where I, every time I come here, there's so much more of a community.
Like people, you run into people when you go out or like you know.
what people are doing even if you don't like, you know what I mean? It's more like it just feels like a
smaller town whereas in L.A. Like you could not, you could not run into somebody that lives in the
same part of town as you once. Like you may never see them unless you're like texting or whatever it is.
So there's just not so much of a community, which is hard for me because like where I grew up,
there's like so much a community. Like there's one like the coffee shop. It's called hometown in my
town and like you go there and you run into everybody that you've like ever known. So it's like
that's so nice. I miss that. I would spend a month or weeks at a time depending on what show I was
shooting once we were there for three months. So I never had a real community there. So I missed a good
part of it. Because my wife, she went back to grad school and she moved to L.A. and she had a really
good group of friends. So she loved it. I only got the bad part of the industry. The industry.
yuck where everybody's just like trying to grab the thing and move up. So I didn't get the
good. I got the car sick and everything taking forever to get to. Forever. And just like the
industry shuffle. And if that's all you know, I don't think your relationship with L.A. is great.
No, definitely not. Definitely not. What part of L.A. were you in?
We were in Studio City for a while. We lived in Glendale for a while. I love Glendale.
And if we were shooting, because I was on American Idol for four years. And so we would just
stay downtown or like in Hollywood.
I don't know.
I almost got stabbed a bunch.
I felt like I was just dodging needles and knives walking down the street.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'd definitely better.
There's better vibes here.
It's better here for sure.
Yeah.
I just didn't get the good part of it.
I'm not even trashing it as a whole because my wife lived there and loved it because
she found her friends.
I just wondered for you.
Like if you have your community.
It's the people.
It's probably like anywhere.
But anywhere.
Like, I think that's anywhere.
If you find people that you love and want to do everything with, no matter what city you're in, I think it makes any city tolerable, you know.
When you're writing songs, especially early on, did you think you just wanted to be a songwriter, or did you think you're going to write songs for you and be an artist?
I wanted to be a songwriter for other people.
How did you know that was a real job?
Because I found out it was a real job my junior year.
Because when I got reached out to by this publisher, like, when we were talking, he was like, you can write.
Because I was like, there's no way I'm an artist, but the way I was posting, it presented.
to be that I wanted to be an artist.
And he was like, you don't have to do that.
Like, there's another path.
Like, you can write for other people.
And you never have to, like, you know, be the face of these songs.
And that was appealing to you?
Are you kidding?
It was my dream.
I was like, let's go.
I was like, I can.
And also, when I realized, like, I didn't know that a lot of the songs I loved growing up
were written by other people.
So that was, like, you know, pivotal.
I was like, what are you talking about, like, that Tim McGraw is not writing these songs
or whatever it was?
So, like, when I found out the power behind that and those people and what they were able to do, like, I wanted to be a part of that.
So when you moved to Los Angeles, was it to be a writer or was it to be a writer artist then?
To be a writer.
Really?
Yeah.
When did it happen where you transitioned to, I want to be a writer, but now I want to perform the songs I'm writing?
It was, well, okay, the joke of the situation was, like, my first sessions that I was in Nashville for when I wanted to be a songwriter.
I was like writing these songs
but these sessions like weren't pointed at like
okay we're gonna write for this specific artist
we were just going in being like let's write
but like it was not for me
like we were just like let's write anything
and so but I would go home and like post those songs on TikTok
and I think people were just like
do you know like what being a song like you know what I mean
they were like you're not supposed to do that
you're not even allowed to do that they were like
this is actually the opposite of like what today's point was
And I was just like, well, what does anything matter?
You know, I didn't know.
There were rules.
I didn't know that that was like,
people probably left those sessions being like,
we don't want to write with her again.
Like, what is she doing?
But yeah, it was like quickly after I got to L.A.
where I was like, I actually think I want to like sing these songs that I'm writing.
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Did you want to sing because you now wanted to sing or because you wrote them
felt like you could actually distribute the message.
But, you know, why?
I felt like, well, it was, okay, so one of the songs that I had written in Nashville,
or no, it wasn't in Nashville, maybe it was in L.A., but then I went back to, I don't really know.
There was, like, I was in L.A., I was in Nashville.
There was, like, two trips that happened over the summer before I ended up meeting my now publisher.
So I don't know what city it was in.
But I wrote this song called Kiss Me, that wasn't going to be for me, but then I posted it on my TikTok,
and then it did well.
So that, I think, was the moment where I was like,
well, am I going to give this song to somebody else now?
Like, that it's doing, that it's like people are liking the song
and like I'm singing the song.
So like maybe I should keep the song.
And that's really how it just, it just like happened.
Like I was like, okay, I'm going to keep these songs.
Like maybe I want to post.
And everyone was always saying to me like that's half the battle.
Like it's hard, you know, to put yourself out there in that way alone.
So I was like, I want to do that.
So I might as well just keep these songs.
Was that the first video that really hit for you?
Yeah, that was the first one.
And how viral did it go?
Probably like 300,000 views, like not so, so viral.
But I was really viral for my accents before.
What do you mean your accents?
I was viral for doing, like, a French accent when I was, like, a freshman in college.
French and a British accent.
When I was young, I would, like, fake out of some other countries, a waffle house to see if I could fool them, but I never really put it on anything.
But what are your accents?
Like, what do you about?
I can kill a Russian.
You think you talk to me?
I come from Russia where we have voiskly every night.
So it's not great, but it's enough, right?
I just do the guy from Rocky, Rocky 4.
I love that.
So, and I would just see if I could convince them that I was actually.
They probably didn't care.
They were like, whatever this kid is just.
Just get in his waffle, some other cover, whatever.
You just give the guy's waffle and get him out of here.
The Russian get in the corner.
What's your French accent?
Do you want me to do it?
Yeah, of course.
But what if it's bad now?
Like, it could be rusty.
So it's been a while, huh?
No, actually, I think I did it the other day.
I think I did yesterday.
Let it rip.
Okay, it's like, when you, like, took in the French accent,
like, there's a lot of, like, um, grasp and like, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's the gist of it, though.
So was it, was the embarrassment thing part of the act there?
Or were you?
Yeah, like, I would post, like, yeah, it was part of it.
So you would act French?
I would act French.
The whole clip, you wouldn't come out of it.
character? No. So they would think you were a French girl. Yes. The comments were like,
she's, like, she's not French. She's British. Like, look at two videos before. And then
some people were like, no, that accent's fake. She is French. What inspired you to do those
videos? I don't know. I just started doing them. I don't know what the thought was. What other
accent you got in there? There was a British accent that was not bad. But that one's rusty. Australian.
I could do like an Australian accent. Like you can just like full into the Australian accent.
Let's go. Yeah. Let's go.
No, that was the Australian accent.
You just did it?
It's a subtle Australian accent.
You just did it?
You can hear the Australian.
Oh, a little bit.
I can.
That time I can.
You know what I mean?
You can hear the Australian accent.
But it's subtle, which is why I think maybe people believed it.
You ever been to France?
I don't think so.
I went to Paris and I tried to speak French.
And they said, don't do that.
We know English.
I tried.
Do you have anything to provide?
I mean, I was like...
Do you have any French?
Sure.
I'm a bell Bobby.
But I would do a lot of like, uh,
but I studied French in college, but I never went to France.
Oh, you studied French?
We had to take a foreign language.
It was loose.
You loosely studied.
It was the only C I ever got in my entire scholastic career.
It's such a hard.
It honestly is so hard.
Like, I tried to doolingo French for a second.
Impossible language to learn.
I had a friend that was duolingoing.
Mandarin.
Oh, dude.
Don't even.
That is like...
I struggled with French.
And all my friends, at least for a long part of my life, were Hispanic or Mexican.
So I know when they're talking about me in Spanish bad, but I don't do it well.
So, like, I know I can hear some Spanish.
I can speak like seven French words.
And I tried it.
And it was so bad when I was in Paris.
They said, dude, we got you.
We know English.
Stop.
And then other than that...
Stop while you're ahead.
Yeah.
Other than that, like, I went to Japan.
And I did...
Mosch-moosh.
I know like two things.
What does that mean?
I think that means hello.
I don't remember anymore.
Mike, we what Moshe-Moshi means?
I might just know that from Full House, though, too.
Should you watch Full House?
No, I did.
But I never was like an avid watcher of it.
Were you?
Moshe-Mosh-Moshy.
I think Michelle Tanner had a, I think Michelle Tanner had a,
someone that she was talking to because she just dialed a number by accident
and they were calling each other back and forth,
and they were wondering why Michelle, the baby,
would always say things in Japanese like
Moshe-Moshi and they were like how does she know Japanese
and it turns out it was like somebody that she was calling
in Japan. Damn. I know. And that's how you learned
so that's like educational. I think so. What do you got Mike?
Yeah, Moshi-Moshi is hello. Moshi-Moshi.
Wow. Yeah, that's my language.
Damn. I know. You know.
And now you know. And now I know. I'm going to use that. I'm going to say that.
Boston.
I mean, it's killing.
I saw it first from Gary LaVox.
Yes.
Who's a friend of mine, so I follow him.
I love him.
I love him,
too.
I don't know him.
I actually don't know him.
I've never met him.
I saw him obviously singing Boston and I was like,
this is epic.
I sing Blessed,
The Oak and Road all the time.
It was on a boat.
Yeah.
And he was singing the song.
And I was like, that's a good song.
I didn't know what he was singing.
I thought he may have been singing
a song that he was doing.
And then I heard a couple of places.
And I was like,
oh, that song's really good.
You never read Gary LaVoggs?
No.
Because that's how I discovered ears.
I wonder if I FaceTime him.
Let me just see if he knows.
Oh my God.
Let me just see if he's even.
That'd be funny though if he did answer.
Let's see.
I'm scared.
I love that you thought it was his song, though.
He can have it.
The phone is so close to my face right now on FaceTime.
Can you hear that ringing mic?
What if he doesn't answer?
He's not getting answered now.
He's drunk.
in a tree stand.
I'll leave him one of those.
Oh my God, one of the messages.
Yeah, video messages.
How many times this is going to ring?
Okay, let's record video.
Let's make sure I look good here.
Hey buddy, Bobby here.
I was just talking about you because I was talking about the first time that I ever heard
Stella Lefty's song, Boston, was you, I think, singing it on your boat.
And I was asking her, do you know if she's French, by the way?
She was doing a franchise.
I was asking her
if she
or was just telling her that story
and she was like, I've never met Gary LaVox.
So anyway, there's Stella.
Hi.
Yeah.
So nice to meet you over the FaceTime message.
And so that's all.
That's all.
We were hoping you would answer.
Okay.
Bye.
He's going to be like what?
He's going to watch that later and be like,
what's happening?
You know, his life,
once you get really rich,
and he's really rich
Yeah
Like I don't even think things are weird anymore ever
He just expects whatever it's just everything
It's just
I think he like choppers out to deer hunt
Like that's how rich he is
He choppers out to deer hunt
Yeah like he choppers out
Wow okay yeah
That's a goal
All right well so then he's gonna take that lightly
Yeah he'll take it very
I'll take it very lightly
It'll be casual
That song did it blow up on your TikTok
Virally Boston
Yeah
Is that where that song started to?
Oh yeah
That's where every
song for me has started. Who did you write that one with? I wrote that. I wrote the corset alone when I was out here.
And then I brought it to Grace and Joe, who's like my producer in Nashville. And then we finished it
together. And did you sing just a chorus of it on TikTok? Or did you finish the whole song first? No. No,
like on TikTok, the only thing I sang was like the first half of the chorus. So nothing else existed.
So at the time the video was doing well, I was like,
fuck, there's no song.
You have success on an incomplete song.
Yes, on like one line of a song.
And I was like, there's literally no song.
And I was like, I don't even know what the song is going to,
like I didn't even have an idea of what the verse was going to sound like.
Was it just kind of a throwaway when you wrote,
because it was so limited.
So did you just go, I'm just going to do this, put it up for something to post?
Or did you think I'm going to do this and if it works,
I'll continue to grow it?
No, I wasn't even thinking about
I was honestly, like I just had a second
to kill before I was going on a date
and I was like in Nashville to be writing
and I hadn't written anything that day
and so I was like feeling like I needed to be
more productive and so I was like I'll just sit at the piano
and just see like whatever comes out
and then like go on the date and like
you know do whatever else tomorrow
like I'm sure I had like a session or whatever it was
but I so I wasn't thinking about it
like I wasn't thinking about anything
I really just posted the song because
I was just in this phase where I was just posting all the time,
which is, I guess, the phase I'm always in, posting all the time.
Do you do that now still?
Do you have time to do that now?
Yeah, I post all the time.
Even as busy as it is?
Yeah.
Is it weird to kill it now?
What do you mean?
You're just killing it?
You're selling it?
Oh, to kill it?
Yeah.
Oh.
I was like, kill the song.
I was like to get rid of songs.
No, it is, is it weird?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's definitely weird.
But I really don't, now, now there's like, not so much time to even, like, think about that.
you know I'm more just like I want to like maintain what I had going on before like the way that
I was writing all the time like I want to just I want to keep that when you come to town
are you normally jam packed since you don't live here and you're just getting you got to do like
11 things yeah now has today been a pack day yeah walk me through it okay what did we do now that's how
you know it's packed what did we do we it's honestly it's a lot it's it's nice like I we go into the we
I've been meeting a bunch of radio
I've been going to a bunch of radio stations
which is really nice
I get to meet all these people
or see people that I've met
during CMA Fest to see them again
but we did a CMA event
for CMA EDU
yeah CMA EDU
CMA EDU
but it was awesome
like there was 50 students
there so I sang for them
which was truly terrifying
singing for people
that are close in age to you
is like one of the scariest things in the world
because
Well, it's just like, I don't know, like, none of us know how to act right now.
I don't know how to act, and I know that you don't know how to act.
Like, you know what I mean?
Because they're not going to, like, they don't, they're not singing back their words.
And if they are singing back the words, it's like, shy.
And then I feel shy because, you know, I'm like, oh my God.
Yeah, that's shy on shy crime.
That usually isn't good.
Shy on shy crime.
That's not usually not good for, like, performance.
No.
Yeah.
No.
But especially like 50, you know, 20.
something year olds.
So then how do you get through that?
Do you fake it at first and then it catches up to you?
Yeah.
Yeah, I definitely.
But the good, like I really, I think with these songs, like I truly love these songs.
So I don't feel like when I'm singing them, like a wave of happiness doesn't come over
me naturally.
So then I do end up feeling better.
But there's definitely a period where I'm like, oh my God.
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Do you enjoy performing now?
I do.
Like you found it.
I do enjoy it.
But like, I am so nervous every time before I get on stage in any setting, like, freaking out.
And I'm like, I can't do it.
I can't get on the stage.
Whenever people come in, a lot of times they bring in albums that mean a lot to them.
And if you don't mind picking this one up here that you brought in, I'd love for you to tell
me why you pick this and what it is.
And show the camera here.
Well, no, you show it to her.
Everybody watching on Netflix, show them the album.
Where do I show?
This way?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so tell me what it is and why that album is it.
Okay, this was really thought out because I am a huge Luke Holmes fan.
And I've been a huge look.
This is for you.
This one's for you.
Not this is for you.
This one's for you.
You're who's on first in me right now?
I don't know.
What?
This is for me.
I don't know what you just said.
I'm confused.
I've been told that I don't speak.
No, I mumble, but you just said this is for you, but this is for you.
No, this is for you.
But this one's for you.
The album.
is called this one's for you. Okay, now we're there. Now we're there. Go ahead. So this one's for you,
the album. You actually brought that for me. Yeah. That is so nice. Okay, now why did you pick that album?
I brought this. This is for you. This one's for you. Um, I, okay, so I'm a huge Luke Holmes fan.
And, you know, when I was debating on, like, what album I felt like had the biggest weight and, like,
was a no-skip album, you know, in my life. The first thought was like, okay, the first
Taylor Swift album had a huge impact on my life. Like, those were the first songs I ever learned how to play.
like that's what made me fall in love with music.
But then when I discovered Luke Holmes,
when I was a freshman in high school,
like my whole everything was changed.
Like I only listened to this album,
every single song in this album,
probably every single day for four years driving to school.
And they are some of the best songs that have ever been written.
So I felt like maybe you would want to drive.
I've not heard of that guy.
So tell me more.
What's the name, Lucas?
What?
Lucas Combs.
Lucas Combs.
Lucas Combs.
Yeah.
He's really niche.
Have you met Luke?
No.
I would not be cool about meeting him.
You would because he's so nice.
No, you don't understand, though.
Like, she got the best of me would be screen.
Like, these songs, like, I don't, like, my high school experience doesn't exist without
this album, truly.
So I wouldn't be cool.
I'd be zero chill.
Maybe I'd cry about it.
Who have you met here?
Lany Wilson.
So nice.
So nice.
Can I tell you a story about Lainty?
Please.
Whenever.
way, this is six or seven years ago,
Lany was just dancing in a video.
And you remember the song,
Gonna do the two-step and cabal?
Yeah, of course.
And so that song was kind of doing its thing
and I was like, oh, I'm going to learn the dance
and do a video for it.
But Lany wasn't an artist that had any music out.
She was just doing the dance with him.
And so I text Lany and I was like,
hey, will you teach me how to do this dance?
And you could be in the video.
And she's like, yeah, I'll come over.
So she came over and taught me how to do the,
She didn't have, there was nothing.
She came over to teach you how to do the dance.
Yes, she wasn't Lainy Wilson.
She was just Lainey who was in the video doing the dance.
And she came over and I said, you can get in the video.
She goes, nobody wants me in this video.
Like, you just do it and get your views.
I don't want to ruin it.
Everybody wants you in this video.
But that was just like, she was just like normal and nice.
And she's awesome.
She's awesome.
Yeah.
She's like the kindest, warmest person on the planet.
You had a good experience with her?
The best.
Like, truly the best.
because I got, I've, like, seen her twice because I saw her during CMA Fest, which, and she's also, like, the coolest looking, like, she just walks in the room and you're just like, oh my God, like, you are so cool. What the fuck? I keep swearing. I'm sorry.
Yeah, there aren't cops outside. You're good. I know, but I feel bad. Like, you're not. It's just me doing it.
That's true, but. I know, like I'm alone in it. I'm done doing it. I'm done doing it. I feel like you're trying to give me to do drugs. Like, I just, just take it. I don't want to do this alone. I don't want to be alone. Who else?
you met?
Kelsey Ballerini.
He was so sweet and awesome.
Who else have I met?
Dan and Shea.
I love them.
We got to sing together
during CMA Fest, which was awesome.
They came out and did your song, right?
No, we sang Tequila.
Oh, that's cool.
We sang their song, which was...
I saw them come out with you.
Was it at CMA Fest?
It was at the Billboard.
It was like, there was a billboard,
like, show.
And it was awesome.
They're really good.
She can sing.
It's wild.
His pitch.
He's perfect pitch.
And they are together, because they are like in my class, meaning we came to town at the same time.
And this town's like that.
Like whoever you came to town with, they're in your grade.
It's like that.
Yeah.
And so known them forever.
And they are perfect together because Dan is, OCD is a great producer.
It wakes up exactly on time, goes to bed on time.
And then Shay, who exact opposite.
But that's awesome.
Like you need, that's a yin-yang, you need that.
They found their other.
Anybody else you met that's cool?
Vincent.
You know, I really like him.
Me too.
I don't know if you told him you were coming to.
I did.
I really liked him.
He really likes you too.
Yeah.
And I like it.
I don't like a lot of,
I don't dislike a lot of people's music,
but I just live in it.
I'm jaded.
Totally.
Do you hate my music?
No.
Why would I?
No, I don't.
It's hard to get in this room.
No, I know.
So I like, I like your music.
No, I know.
And so I was like, hey, when she's in town, like, I will, I don't.
usually do this this late.
Well, thank you.
No, I mean, no, I'm a fan.
All that to say, I'm a fan.
So, no, I do like your music.
And, yeah, you mentioned
your boyfriend. I was just going to not bring.
I'm sure that gets brought up everywhere, so I wasn't.
No, I appreciate.
But I love him.
He's the best.
And I love his music.
The best.
Truly.
Like, his music is my vibe.
Do you like John Mayer?
It's my favorite artist of all time.
Okay, yeah.
Right.
And you like Casey Musgraze.
Like Kate, yeah, all these are like my people.
Like, counting crows.
Oh, I love.
Counting Crows.
No, you don't.
Yeah, I do.
Lit songs.
You don't know a counting.
Put up a parking lot.
Sort of.
Don't it always seem to go?
Sorry. That's the right song.
Yeah, that's not what it's called.
I know what it's called.
What's it called?
It is called.
Hold on a second.
Wait, was that originally Jonny Mitchell's song?
Okay, I give you credit back.
You just won your,
No, no, no, I know that it's originally, I know that it's a cover, but that was a huge thing.
Like, Rascal Flats, Bless the Boken Road's also a cover.
If that's true, that's true.
You just taught me something.
It's true, and I found out, like, a month ago, it's true.
So, Big Yellow Taxi is the song.
And it's a Joni Mitchell song.
It's a Johnny Mitchell.
But you knew that, so I'm not even going to give you crap about that.
Do you love Johnny Mitchell?
You ever see her play, like, the sit-art, the thing?
Yes, when she sings California.
Yeah.
You ever see Amanda Seafree, do that on Jimmy Fallon?
Yes.
That was, like, the most viral thing in the world.
I was like, what is happening right now?
I wanted that to come out.
I wish you would have released that.
I met her once.
Really?
She was really nice.
She seemed really nice.
Never know about actors, though.
Sometimes it's just our roles.
I know, like, how can you tell?
Because they can act.
Nice.
You're right.
You're right.
Like, that's a confusing thing to, like, date.
I feel like to date an actor, like, that might be scary.
Like, they can lie.
Yeah, it's committing to the role.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
She was really nice, though.
I bet.
Anyway, your boyfriend is...
Vincent?
Yeah.
And he's...
You can say his whole name.
Vincent Mason.
Yeah. I really like him. I really like his music. His music is my vibe as well.
So not only is he really talented, but like I would like, I listen to that music whenever I'm just like by myself.
How did you guys meet? He DM me on Instagram.
Let's do it. Let's do 120 seconds of us talking about this because I was not going to make this about this, but you open the door.
I open the door. 120 seconds. Ready?
Okay, yeah, I'm ready.
Start the timer. How'd you meet him?
I met him via DM. He DM.
What was his DM?
He said he liked thinking about you and I was teasing it.
So he sent me the song.
Did he really like that song or was he just trying to use that to get to you?
He says he really liked the song.
But what do you believe?
Well, I actually, he was in a really weird, I don't think he was like looking for love.
I don't think that he was.
Classic line.
You know?
He wasn't looking for it.
Playing hard to get.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but that's what he says.
So, you know, I don't know.
First date.
Oh, what was it?
Oh my God.
I don't know the name of the restaurant, but we went to go.
eat steak. Here? Yes. Does he fly out to California? Yeah. He's in LA a lot. Do you come here a lot
to see him? How long he has been dating? Like six months, five months. What's your favorite song of
his? Oh, speak of the devil. Does he have any songs about you? No. Does that hurt your
feelings? Yes. Okay, that's enough. That's enough on him. All right, that was a good one. That's a good one.
Good run there. This is fun. I didn't know what I didn't know what to expect.
with you honestly.
Really?
Because I didn't know you would...
Okay, do you want to play the game?
Yeah, what did you think?
Do you want the honest game or no?
Yeah, I want the honest game.
I don't want you to lie to me.
Then you'd be an actor.
You just never know.
You thought I was going to suck.
No, I just didn't know if you were going to suck.
There's a difference.
But do you think I look like I suck?
No.
But, and I'm going to tell you why I thought you might suck, even though you look like you
didn't suck.
Okay.
Because you have, just from what I've seen of you, you seem very, you seem very,
approachable and likable.
Thank you.
And it might be fake.
Yeah.
Because that happens.
It's not, though.
Like, you're very warm.
You're very warm.
You're very friendly.
So I didn't know that.
And also, you don't live here.
So there's not a lot of references where I can be like, does she suck?
Right.
Because sometimes that'll happen and I'll go, hey, does this person suck?
And they're like, yeah.
And I'd rather not.
Because I don't want to not like somebody.
I'd rather just not know.
Totally.
And then, yeah, who knows?
So I didn't know.
But yeah, you're awesome.
Thank you. So are you. I'm okay.
No, you're great. I'm okay. It depends what you talk to. I have too many opinions.
Are people saying things around about you?
Saying, have said. I've been in this town way too long. If you have opinions...
That's scary. If you have opinions in this town, eventually those opinions make somebody mad,
and I have had a lot of them, and I think I'm good-hearted, but I also don't get out at all.
I'm so introverted.
Like, you don't go out. I don't do anything.
What's your favorite thing to do?
Stay home.
do what though?
Be in the walls.
Inside the walls.
That's my favorite thing to do.
Remain in the walls.
Are you like watching something?
You're just like sitting on your bed.
Like, um, I have, we had a baby four months ago.
Oh, congratulations.
That's crazy.
That is crazy.
I'm sure.
I don't know.
But is it like, I'm sure your life has changed forever.
That's such a stupid thing to say like obviously your life is changed.
It's, it's crazy.
All I would do is I would work.
And then when I was touring a lot, I would just.
just work Monday through Thursday, get on a plane, come back Sunday, work, do, and then I just
also realize I don't want to be friends with a lot of artists because then I couldn't talk freely
and openly, not badly, that's different, but to have like honest opinions about things.
Yeah.
Because it doesn't go well in this town whenever you don't flow with the system.
I think it's cool that you don't live here right now.
I think eventually you'll move here, but I think it's cool right now you don't live here.
Do you think you'll move here?
I mean, not, I mean, maybe in the next like three years.
to four years. I love, like, I think that, like, people's lifestyles are better out here than
they are in L.A. Like, you just, the work-life balance is, like, everything out here, you know?
You're also going to be moving around so much and traveling so much. It's going to be hard for you
to have a home. I know. But I feel more at home here than in L.A. Like, I feel more myself
when I'm here, for sure. But I'm happy, wait, what, what, do you have a baby boy or baby girl?
A girl? What's her name?
Billy?
Billy?
That's really cute.
It is.
She's four months old.
Mm-hmm.
Whoa.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Oh, she brought her here.
She is.
She's actually behind the couch.
She's really quiet.
She's just sitting, she's laying behind the couch.
She's big fan, so she wanted to come.
Billy.
Yeah.
Billy Bones.
Dude.
My wife, no.
No, I have to say that's not her name.
But that's like a point of contention for you guys?
Well, my wife is like my name's not bones.
My wife doesn't play the game.
She doesn't want to be a public figure.
She doesn't have fake name.
My real last name is Estel.
And so she's like, I'm Caitlin Estelle.
I'm not Caitlin Bones.
Great name.
Caitlin Estol, great name.
What about Bobby Estle?
No, it is.
Fair name, okay.
But Bobby Bones, like, you just, it sounds so cool.
Billy Bones.
I like wonder if that's going to happen.
Like, people are going to call her that.
I think.
I think I will be so washed.
by the time she gets to be old enough
that it won't even be a thing.
I've had my run.
Like, I'm still up at the top right now,
but it ain't gonna last much longer.
Dude, you have not had your run.
But I have, no, trust me.
No, no, I mean, I know you've had your run,
but, like, you can have an eternal run.
I'm going to be washed.
Do you want to be?
By the time you move here, I'm washed.
In three years?
Yeah, yeah.
This is the last.
Do you want to be?
No, no, no, I've shifted and pivoted and done everything.
And it's been great.
You're a dad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
Okay.
This has been fine.
I hope you had fun.
I did.
Yeah.
This is cool.
Did you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did.
I did.
The answer is yes.
You didn't have fun.
The answer is yes, I did have fun.
But coming into it, I did not know.
So I'm just, I was just a little apprehensive about, oh, great, here we go.
Somebody that's young and now she's hitting.
And is she going to be actually cool or fake cool?
You're cool.
You're real cool.
Thanks.
Yeah.
I think you're cool too.
Thanks.
Thanks.
All right.
That's it.
That's it.
Stella Lefty, tell your boyfriend I said what up.
I will.
I'm a big fan.
He knows that.
I tell him.
I love him.
He's awesome.
Do you guys do stuff together sometimes, huh?
Yeah.
Like hang out?
No, no, no.
Like, no, I know you do stuff together.
I'm saying like, you guys have done like interviews and stuff together.
Yeah.
Well, we have a song together.
So we do interviews together.
On whose record?
Well, technically it's both of ours.
But it came out on my, like, it's on my EP that I put out.
Got it.
So it's both of our song.
But we get to sing together, which is so fun to get to do with him.
Well, tell him I said hi.
I will.
And you're awesome.
And I can't wait to, you know, see what's happening with your career.
I'm rooting for you.
I was kind of...
I know.
I'm really glad that you were honest about that.
About what?
Well, you were like, you know, I didn't know what you were going to be like and you were apprehensive.
Is that the word?
apprehensive. But it wasn't about you specifically. It's just the nature of this town. But
this is also why people don't like me because I say stuff like that at times. But the honesty
is really refreshing actually. Like you know who sucks? I'm just kidding. I'm not going to say anybody.
I was like, there's no way. I was like, go to tell me. Okay. Great to see you. We did it. We did
our Stella Lefty. I'm a big fan. And next time, we'll do this again. Thank you for having me.
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