The Bobby Bones Show - BOBBYCAST - WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre on His Hatred of CM Punk, Why Aliens are Real & Breaking His Neck

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

WWE superstar Drew McIntyre joins Bobby to talk about why his issues with CM Punk go way beyond storyline, why he’s convinced aliens exist, and one of the scariest moments of his career when he broke his neck. He opens up about the setbacks he’s had to fight through, the mindset it took to come back stronger, and how those challenges shaped both his career and his life. Plus, Drew talks about growing up in Scotland, his rise in wrestling, and what it takes to get mentally and physically ready for the biggest moments in WWE. Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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WWE superstar Drew McIntyre and I don't know much about Scotland. Never been to Scotland. We talk about food and everybody comes from a place that has interesting food. What they eat in Scotland to me? No, I had never heard of this before. So we'll get into food. We'll get into his parents.

Obviously, I'm a big wrestling fan. And we didn't talk wrestling the whole time. Like, I'm always curious to know, like, how much do you have to eat? What do you eat? What were your parents like? And so we do this a lot with Drew McIntyre. He's the chosen one. He was the chosen.

one. And then he had a full-on comeback story, winning multiple world titles, headlining WrestleMania. We're getting ready for WrestleMania 42, which is coming up April 18th and 19th. If you're watching this when it comes out, it'll be coming up this weekend. But one of the biggest stars in WWE joining us right now. Here he is, my conversation. He's a monster, by the way, big dude. Like, on TV, he's humongous, but he's against other humongous people. He's humongous. Here he is. WWE's Drew McIntyre. Drew, good to see you. Good see you, buddy.

We haven't met before. How tall are you? I am 6'5.5 and a half, and it is the half inch that makes all the difference I hear. When did you start growing? As a kid, were you a large kid? Yeah, I was always tall. It's not like America where there's a lot of athletes who are tall. There is very few people in Scotland that grow as quick as me.

And I was very tall, very skinny. I was always put in the back of the school photos. I got a bit of a complex about it. If you see the school photos from age four onwards, I'm always in the back grow. I'm always head and shoulders above everyone. You know, girls grow faster than guys. So there's a couple of girls that are, you know, up to my chin maybe. And then eventually I just disappear out the shot.

Was your dad a large man? Yeah, yeah. He was always called Big Andy. Growing up, he was 6'3 foot three and the kind of largest man of the family. The doctors, I don't know how they figure this out. The doctors have told my parents that I'm going to be huge one day. My brother's going to be pretty tall. And I kind of stuck with that my whole life.

And whenever I'd hear my dad called Big Andy, I told him one day I'm going to be giant Drew. And also Andrew McLean Galloway. That's my real name, by the way. I'm Drew McIntyre in the wrestling, but Drew Galilee in real life. I'm Andrew McLean Galloway, the fourth. So my dad goes by Andy, I go by Drew. He goes by Big Andy. I go by Giant Drew.

I also have a name that's not my real name. My name's Bobby, but Bones is not my real last name. Oh, really? Yeah. So my real last name is Estelle. And most people didn't know that until my wife, because my wife, she uses her real name, our real name. Yeah. And so, but she didn't want to go by Caitlin Bones

because that sounded stupid, so she's our name. Is it weird for you? And do you have people that only know you as your original name, like your family? No, I mean, Drew has been my name my whole life, so everyone basically just calls me Drew. But your last name? But the Gallowade, no, I mean, very few people even mention it now, even like in the bank or whatever. Like, WWB's got so big now, like, especially with ESPN, Netflix and the likes. People like, Mr. McIntyre, wherever I go and I slide over my information, they're like, oh, and they're disappointed.

I'm sorry, that's on my real name. But, you know, I have a real life outside the wrestling, you know. Yeah, people will do that too. Sometimes they'll look at mine and be like, oh, your name really isn't bones. Like, yeah, they're a little... Yeah, yeah, exactly the moment. My wife's name's Caitlin as well. That's interesting.

How long have you been married? We've been married for nine years now. Did you guys move to Nashville together? Yes, yes. That's a fun story right there. We lived in a St. Petersburg, Tampa area for... My goodness, I long to be lived there. We would be together about 13 years.

We probably spent about... a good eight, nine years there. We've been here almost five years. Somebody do the meth real quick. And we just decided we needed a change. And one of the fellow wrestlers, Irishman, Seamus, had moved here and kept chipping away at me trying to move state. And I didn't want to move anywhere.

I was like, I'm fine. The palm trees, the sunshine. I know in Christmas date it'd be nice to have Christmas weather, but 100 degrees is fine. Whatever is better weather than Scotland. And my wife is from West Virginia. She wanted the seasons. And so he started chipping away at her instead.

And she convinced me to move. Like, with the wrestling, we can live in. anywhere as long as it's a tax-free state. I'm happy about it. And we made the move. We got an RV. And most of our stuff went on the trucks, but we got an RV so we could transport our cats. You know, there are our kids. And we made it as far as Perry, Georgia, with her driving. And then old master of the driving here, old Drew, got a licensed America. I couldn't drive when I was back in the UK. It probably shouldn't be driving. I'm still figuring it out after years and years. I was leaving the gas station in the massive RV, the 15-foot RV. And the back-up

of it caught the side of the, I know what you call it, but the gas pumps. Yeah. And thank goodness, you know, some have the metal around them. Thankfully, it had metal around this particular one because I've hit something. And that's weird. So instead of stopping, I put my foot down, it's like pushing through it. And I ripped right through the back of the RV, door through the side of the tire. And we got stuck in the gas station that night because of me in Perry, Georgia.

And as the night went on, some unsavory characters showed up. Some fights were breaking out in the gas station. I called AAA and asked, can you send some help? It was, oh, you don't have, you know, like, van insurance, truck insurance or whatever. I was, oh, can I get some? I was, oh, absolutely. You know, sign up and, oh, kick in, like, three days. I don't, well, I need it right now.

And it's like a Saturday or something going into Sunday. I was like, well, we can't do anything for you. You go screw yourself. So I called around. Nobody could help. So we had to spend the night there. And yeah, yeah, she was pretty upset with me. But eventually we got to Nashville.

We love it. Did you sleep in the RV that night? I slept almost instantly. She basically said, this is your fault. I'm going to take the cats to the bed. You stay up and guard. I went, no problem. And I think I have like my old farm in our clips, which is great, considering my job and traveling 52 weeks a year.

I can always sleep. But yeah, I fell asleep instantly and had her shaking me to wake up as somebody peering through the window and there was. And yeah, yeah, I got a lot of crap for that. How do you like living in Nashville? Love it. Yeah, yeah. This is the closest to Scotland that I've stayed in America. I lived in Louisville, Kentucky.

It was a bit of a culture shock moving straight from my parents' house and university to America when I was 21, turning 22. I lived in Mandevo, Louisiana briefly, and I lived in Tampa, which was fun, you know, in your 20s, early 30s, whatever. Tampa's great. That's where you want to be. But eventually, you know, the wife chipped away, how about the seasons thing? But when I moved here and I actually kind of get out away from 20 minutes outside of Nashville, the Mount Joliet area, but suddenly it was greenery, the personalities, how friendly everyone, you know, is around here, it felt more like Scotland with a lot more guns. I was worried about it walked in here. By the way, if anyone come at this studio, you get instructions walking into the lobby, and there's like three options, and I was looking around, like, which door door to are going? I walk out to somebody's house.

People have guns here. I'm a large man walking into someone's house. I'm going to get taken out. Do the police officers have guns in Scotland? No. Is that crazy to even ask? Is that... I mean, I'm so used to it now

because I'm in America so long. I'm an American citizen, and I have many, many guns. So don't come in my house. But at the same time, now Scotland, there's just literally zero there. There was a tragedy at a school called Dumblaine when I was a kid.

A lot of kids were killed and just even guns of farmers had, etc. were just taken out completely so it's not something I was ever around or talked about aside playing cops and robbers when you were a kid. When I was growing up in Arkansas like the meal that we had was chicken fried steak. Like that's my favorite meal. It's very southern meal.

What is like the meal, like if I were to ask you about being a child in Scotland? What's like home food? Like stoves like, you know, mints and tatties, like mints and potatoes. like mashed up potatoes and you know like beef kind of mashed up and then mix it all mix it all together with the gravy and carrots

so all mashed oh yeah all mashed together mince and tatties tatties are potatoes and then if you want to go stereotypical people out there going damn it, drus say haggis you're Scottish talk about haggis yes I like haggis and chicken you cut open the chicken put the haggis in there what's haggis what is haggis you never heard of haggis no I haven't is that a hash brown no can you set potato no no let me let me fill you in

Does everyone always talk to me about haggis? I just assume, everyone assumes we still run around in kilts, eating haggis and drinking whiskey in the highlands. And they're like, have you heard of televisions? We invented it. Have I heard of television? Haggis is basically all the parts of the sheep boiled in its stomach and then eat it. And there's another fine delicacy.

I like introducing my wife to this stuff and not tell her what it is. Black pudding is one of my favorite breakfast items. She was like, what's that? And I was like, just try it before I tell you. What is it? I was like, try it. She tries it. Do you like it?

She's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I like it. So what is it? Dry blood. Black pudding, very nice. Of what? Sheep? You know what? I never clarified.

We could probably Google it right now. Someone over there can check it out, but yeah. Pig blood. Dry pig blood. Yeah, get that into you. Put hairs near us. But there's, can you tell me more about the pig, about what that is? I mean, also in the UK, there's a lot more health and safety standards for the food.

So it's all right. You can give out a bash here and I guarantee. And that's just what you had. kids, right? Oh yeah. I didn't think twice about it. If it was put in front of me, we had to eat. I didn't come from much money. I mean, we felt that we had everything we needed. And our parents made us feel that way, and everyone around me was kind of a similar

situation growing up. But yeah, it was ever put in front of you, you had to eat it. Your parents did what for a living? My dad, growing up, worked in a fire surround company, like where they sold just a bunch of different furniture and the likes, and it eventually closed down in and now works in a prison and runs there a canteen. Scottish prisons, especially the private prisons, sound like paradise, to be honest, listening to him. It doesn't even sound like prison. And my mother, by the time we were born, she actually was born with a very rare, she wasn't born

with the condition. She developed a very rare condition in her early 20s. It's more common these days, Sarah Bellamytaxia, or basically the balanced portion of her brain died, and it happened in her early 20s. I mean, I actually been late teens, exactly, but, you know, she had a regular job. She'd left school. She was coming home on the bus one day, and her legs just stopped working. And an older couple had to help her back home.

and my nana retired and started taking her for doctor to doctor, trying to figure out what was wrong with her. At that time, only small dogs really developed this condition. You know, shaky eyes, shaky hands, and she walked like she was drunk. And they finally found a doctor in London that was able to kind of stabilize the condition, but they knew so little about it. She was told you would never have a normal life, obviously, potentially never have kids and the likes.

Met my dad. And when she got pregnant, was told the same thing, as at the time there was such limited knowledge about it. and my nana, who was my second mother growing up, she was always there to help because my mother had to kind of use the walls to balance. Didn't let anything stop her. She would balance out the backyard and hang up the laundry.

She would balance down one wall with the food for my brother and I. We'd never help because she made it so normal. She's like a superhero. And my friends would run around and help her. What's wrong with you two? And I was like, well, this is what she does. But when she got told, you know, they probably shouldn't have this kid.

My nana said you probably shouldn't have this kid. She was like, I'd rather die. And it had me. And it inevitably had my brother. as well, who was 16 months between the two of us and grew up making us feel like we could do anything because she was born with this

rare affliction which you couldn't leave the house, but she did everything she possibly could in the house. And eventually when I did the wrestling, it was the first ever wrestler assigned from Scotland to do the WWE, go from a country of 5 million people to that big American company, the only ever Scottish British, WB champion of all time.

They're like, okay, what gave you the motivation? How did you pull it off? I was like, I had it easy. I had a superhero for her mother. Wow. Is there any relation to you, I don't know if you're kidding about the narcolepsy thing. No, I mean, I just, I sleep very easy. I'm not legitimately diagnosed with it, but I'm convinced maybe some very mild version, but I think just I'm so relaxed all the time. It's like a kind of a gift, I guess, in our job, in a very stressful environment.

I'm always able to stay calm in every situation. Like I did a movie even when I was 20. It's been a whole lifelong thing with 300 extras were screaming above a Scottish castle. And I was a guard from Malcolm McDowell. And when I wasn't in a particular shot, I just lie against the wall and fall asleep. My buddy was like, I keep watching you fall asleep against the wall. How can you do that? I was like, because I'm tired, so I just go to sleep.

Because there's 300 people screaming. I was like, as far as I'm concerned, I can always just go to sleep for one too. Are your parents still alive? My mother passed, unfortunately, in 2012. She inevitably developed cancer, along with all the other stuff. But she fought right through it. Every time I wanted to go home, she told me you keep chasing that dream, don't you dare come back, which sucked. But I was there, you know, when she passed and hit my.

Dad hard for a while. He went through some real tough times in his personal life. He eventually found his current wife, Jane, and they're very happy together. I don't have to worry about them all the time. What success did your mom get to see from you? I mean, she saw me make WWE. She saw me become Intercontinental Champion. Obviously, one of her main titles in WWE 24 years old.

I was announced as the chosen one that kind of future of WWE. Unfortunately, it had a bit of a downturn. in the old career opportunities weren't quite there but during the period I've been honest about it I've got my book my chosen destiny available now

go get it but in many other interviews where I've talked about when she got sick I started drinking too much and acting out in ways like that not dealing with it very well and when she passed

I was just off the deep end burning the candle at both ends throwing gasoline on the candle itself so she saw right up to the good success This is my first run.

So a little bit of a downturn, but she was always very positive. Like, I can't believe you're still in WWE. You're living your dream. Like, even when she was sick, don't you dare come home? You keep living your dream. You keep pushing and you achieve everything you're supposed to achieve because I believe you can be one of the best of all time, which she always believed in me in that way and believed I could be the man.

But, you know, I was, again, not dealing with her being sick. She was like my favorite person in the world, like my hero. So I was not dealing with it very well. I'm such a mommy's boy growing up. To the point I moved to America, These bills were piling up, these bills were piling up, these bills were piling up. I was like, what is going on? I was like, I did that for you.

You have to learn how you do it yourself. And oh my God, I'm incapable. Too much of my mummies play. So, yeah, yeah. So that was a tough period. But, you know, I know she was always there with me, even during the tough times. And I had to, and I got fired inevitably when I was 29. And I had to.

Like in WW, if I told them what was going on, if they understood how bad I was dealing with things, they would have gave me the time off. But I kept it inside. And no one really knew. aside my close friends, you know, how bad I was dealing with things. And it was the best thing in the world could have happened to me was getting fired. I wasn't under the microscope anymore. I'd met my wife, Caitlin at the time. It wasn't good timing. We got our first apartment together, technically, when I got fired. She was like, oh, my God, what are we going to do for money?

And I was like, don't worry. We're going to figure this out. And I still believed, like, she believed, I could be one of the top guys or not the top wrestler on planet Earth. This is the one thing I know better than anything. And I was able to rebrand myself outside of the company. used social media, that was in 2014, and social media was getting so big at the time, but I knew I could take the fans on a journey and show them the version of myself that I believed I should be as opposed to what I was being presented as in WWE at the time, and my name grew and grew and grew, and things were going amazing. I became champion all across different countries in the world, specifically in Scotland. The show I returned to had about a thousand people,

and then the next show, the big one at 2000, then the next big one was 4,000, the next big one was 7,000. We just kept growing this business. with myself is the centerpiece, but I was still drinking too much. So eventually, as things were going well, my wife said to Miley Drew, you got to, you know, check your head that you've got to crash and burn. I was like, babe, look what's going on. Like, everything's going great. The numbers don't lie.

You know, I'm running myself into the ground. You've been patient. I appreciate that. But look how well we're doing. We're able to buy our first house, not in WWE. We're able to buy, you know, the car. We're able to save, invest, create a retirement accounts outside of WWE. That's unheard of at this point.

And my brother told me you become a verb to do what drew, become more of a success outside of WW. And she was like, no, the way you're living your life. And if you don't cut it out, I'm going to end up leaving you as well. So she had that talk with me. And I also broke my neck at the time. It sounds worse than it is. It was T2 and T3 break, non-displaced. So all I had to do was wearing neckcast for eight weeks.

But it slowed me down for the first time in my life. Like, I'd never had a break my entire life. No pun intended. But I'd gone straight from school, straight to university, straight to WW. be fired straight back on the road, rebranding myself. In this eight weeks, I sat there. I thought about what she said. I looked myself in the mirror and I said she's right. I got to cut the negative

aspects out of my life. She's not dealing with it well. My mom wouldn't be happy with me. And I'm not happy with me. That's what it comes down to. If you want to make real change in your life, you have to be the one that wants to make the change. And I looked at WWE and I said, okay, that's where I want to be. I want to be back in WWI. I want to be top of the

card. Who's the biggest draw in the company? Brock Lesner. He's an animal. He's an absolute beast of a man. If I'm going to go toe to toe to toe with him, do I believe I can beat him up right now? And I looked in the mirror and I thought, honestly, no, I'm 6'5, but I'm not the size I am right now. I was probably about 2.35, 240. Not a great 235, 240, like maybe relative to the average Joe. Yes, but no, not Brock Lesnar.

I got to improve my verbal game. You know, he had Paul Heyman, one of the best speakers, and in pro wrestling, you have to be able to articulate yourself well all the time. We get live fast. They give you real-time feedback, what's working, what's not working. You have to be able to add-lib on the fly. and with people like Paul Heyman, you have to have a good back and forth in front of a live crowd,

keep within your characters, keep within your time and entertain that audience. I got to get better. So after that, I changed my diet, I changed my training, I cut out the drinking.

I started getting on the microphone every show in the independence and I saw the difference. Like, just overnight, my body changed. My skills in the mate, my confidence grew. And within a few months,

I had Triple H on the phone and asking me come back to WWE. And I went through my journey when I was back in WWE to the point, I won a big event called the Royal Rumble which gives you a shot at the title or main event, which is coming up soon, WrestleMania,

and I challenged Brock Lesnar for the title. So I sat down the locker room one day after I won the Royal Rumble, after I challenged Brock Lesnar and I saw the image on the screen, Drew McIntyre versus Brock Lesnar for the WWE title and Paul Heyman in the corner

and I went, that's exactly what I envisioned. But I sat down that day, that's the image I had in my head, that's what I worked towards, and it's happening. I'm going to stand face to face with Brock. I believe that guy can beat up that guy. But then the Comfaids pro wrestling, of course.

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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever. I didn't think I was going to live. I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir.

Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape a murder. child, 12-year-old. Just as bad as it gets. I would think so. People wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevette and DePippo.

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And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. And we're back on the Bobbycast. Who is your favorite athlete as a kid in Scotland? I mean, y'all might not know him, but Ali McAust is his name. He's a very famous Scottish soccer player, football player. Did you ever want to play soccer? I did. I played soccer until I was 16.

That was the big sport in my area. Were you above-average great soccer player? Certainly above average. I mean, at the time, I believed it was amazing. But I had friends who were, like, really, really good, and they weren't getting opportunities with the big clubs. So I was, okay, you've got to work harder at this. So I did.

I always put the time in, things I wanted to get better at. But at the same time, I just had this the back of my mind, like pro wrestling, pro wrestling, pro wrestling. Even as a kid? Oh, since I was five. I got to put the story in my book. Like I said to my dad, I'm in family. You know, I gathered a family meeting after I saw on TV for the first time

and said, I'm going to be a wrestler one day. And I only know this because my dad has told me about it. I can say the darndest things. You know, I'm going to be an astronaut. I'm going to play for an America. I play for an American football team, a baseball team. I'm going to ride a dinosaur professionally. And I was, oh, you kids.

And I was like, with a wrestler. And I never deviated from that since I was a kid. But the time I was 11, I was like, Mom, I need to go to train. I need to go to training. And I'm way behind on the wrestling thing. And at 15, I finally convinced her to let me go to a wrestling school. It was 12 hours away from Air Scotland in ports, Mount England. Three different train changes.

Had to take the train down there. And she finally, like, agreed, okay, if you pay for it, if I can talk to the trainer, if I can keep constant updates on the basic cell phones of the time, I'll let you go if you go with one of your friends, my friend Craig. We went down together, the 12-hour journey. We spent a week there for personal training. We did the 12-hour journey back. Then after that, I was hooked.

I would go down as often as I could, Easter holidays, summer holidays. They'd have three-day camps, week-long camps. If my mom would give me the money, my nana would give me the money, I was down there learning to wrestle. And then myself and a bunch of guys started a wrestling school in Scotland because it was none at the time. And I would train them when I was learning in England. Then we started shows when I was 16.

And that was about the time I had to make the choice. I'm going to keep going with the football. real football, the one you kept me your feet. The World Cup's coming soon, by the way. Or the wrestling. And obviously I chose wrestling, and I stand by that because it worked out on the end. Were you a good student?

I was a pretty good student. I was like very much, you know, I'm playing this high league wrestling, wrestling, wrestling, but I was always, you know, like I have to get my grades. I have to make sure I have this education behind me. If I tried harder, I guarantee it would win straight A. I was very much like an A here,

be there, a couple of Cs there. and I would always pass. I would study the night before most exams. When I say most exams, like in high school, I studied for all the exams the night before. It was a miracle that I got through it. I passed them all, went to university, got my degree in criminology,

and thanks to all the girls in my course, because I was gone a lot. During that wrestling, I'd vanish miss classes here and there, and they always had the notes for me. And as long as I had the notes, I was always able to retain the information. And, yeah, education, thankfully came pretty easy to me.

I said maths and chemistry in the legs, as soon as I put the alphabet beside numbers, I was like, screw the notes, that but I always figured like Rick and Rick and Marty school doesn't seem like a place for smart people like it just seemed pretty easy as long as you retain information in regard you to the information

it's like I can retain information that's easy why criminology I sat my guidance counselor in high school and we kind of talked about what I want to study at uni and what do you want to do next and I was okay I'm going to go to university because I'm waiting to be in the WB I'm too young right now and we're like okay let's pretend you're not going to do that but I am

like wouldn't even deviate from it. I knew I had to believe it myself or it would never happen. It's okay, let's just assume that you are going to do it, but you need to do something in the meantime then, Drew. I went, okay, let's do that. So what about this? I mean, I've got a pretty good aptitude for business studies, and it was always straight A's for that area. I was kind of boring. I just can't imagine myself doing it at that high level because, you know, what's it going to do for me in the future? And we just started going through courses. And finally, she mentioned criminology. It was a new course at Glasgow Calendonian University. It's a short bus

ride for my parents' house. I wouldn't have to move anywhere. I could still stay at home. I could still go down there and I could still stick to my gym, keep my training up for the wrestling. And I was always a massive X-Files fan as a kid. I was like, oh, okay, when I was really young, I wanted to play for Glasgow Rangers, my soccer team.

I wanted to be a professional wrestling, and I wanted to be moldering the X-Files. All right, this gets me along those lines. And again, we don't even have time to tell the stories that I've got. But when I was a kid, it was really weird. I've told this story a few times. It's out there. But when I was 10, 11 years old, I had a subscription to a magazine. It was called the X Factor. It had paranormal in there,

UFOs, strange diseases. I read about Ebola when I was that age and stuff. And it had a sample letter for the FBI Freedom of Information Act. If you send to this, request the documents you want, they'll send them to you. So I took my pocket money, requested, you know, Roswell documents, Project Blue Book documents and sent that way of my pocket money. My dad was waiting for me when I got home from school, a dossier, about five inches thick. I was like, Dad, why are you home? You never home at three o'clock in the afternoon. Here's home about six or seven. you know, son, why are the FBI in America sending you these documents? Because I asked for them.

I was like, son, he kept saying in America, why are the Federal Bureau of Investigation in America sending you? My 11-year-old son these documents? I'm like, son, these documents. I'm like, son the up and up, dad. I use my pocket money. It's another freedom of information act. No, give me, give me, give me. It was like, just go outside and be normal.

I was like, I am at first took my documents. So, yeah, I was a very, very strange kid. I was such a target for bullying, but I was too big to bully. I feel bad for those billies. Love wrestling, love it. Do you still have an interest in you ever? I suppose? I mean, I still see the stuff going on. It's just funny. No one else does. There's just so much, so much stuff coming out right now and so many clear videos there. Obviously, there's a lot more out there. And I've always believed that. I just understood through my magazine subscription as a kid that if you find out too much, you're going to vanish. So maybe focus on that wrestling thing. But it's all coming out now. There have been nine scientists disappear.

That's going to scary that stuff, yeah. Like either dead or missing. all involved in, you know, physics, aeronautics, and they're either, you know, the leaders of their groups or researchers within the group, nine. Yep. And people are finally starting to pay attention to the information that's coming out. I don't know if they would keep releasing videos like the, you know,

like fire pilots seeing things that planes cannot do, you know, why does nobody care about this? I know. The pilots are actually saying, we can't do this. And everybody's like, did you see the latest? I always use the Kardashians, the examples of sorry, because they're not quite relevant now, But I've seen where the Kardashians did this week.

Whoever Rally TV or whatever nonsense is viral. I was like, we'll be the one over here, but the planes or things that are doing things that we can't do. The thing that's going faster than any object we've ever created with no propulsion at all. Yep. Defying physics coming out of the water. Yes.

Define physics and like times three. Yep. Like we have the ability to know up to a certain point, but these things are going three, four times as fast as anything we've ever created. Stopping on a day. Yes. And again, with no trail. No.

I mean, it's fairly obvious. At this point, you're an idiot if you don't believe. I've always felt that way. But obviously, things are shaped the way they're shaped for a reason to make people feel the way they feel. And it worked for decades and decades. But just look for the proof. Look for the evidence.

It's pretty simple if you take five minutes and do your own research. Even, as I say, as an 11, 12-year-old, I was so into it. And I got to the point where I was like, okay, this is obviously real. But what am I going to do about it? If I find out too much, maybe I disappear. So let's, as I say, focus on the wrestling thing. And it's worked out just fine for me. Going down this route and everyone else is starting to open their eyes now,

the way I felt when I was 11, 12 years old. I feel like they're slow rolling us a little where, like what you're talking about, more and more is coming out, but little by little. So, and it's everywhere now, and their documentaries, the age of disclosure came out. Excellent. And you had real, like real scientists, not people, not nut. No, no, government officials, real scientists, yeah. Pilots, people testify in Congress, asking, can we please release?

This information to the public. I think they're ready to handle it. And, yeah, it makes, yeah, it's a little bit easier to show somebody going to check this out as opposed to one of the, who's the one guy, goes, aliens did it with a crazy hair. Bob Lazar has put out of a documentary just, like, in the past couple of days. He's the guy that worked down there. Yep. And has, like, seen it all. Yeah, I feel like that documentary, I'm really into it.

Oh, yeah. I'm really into it. I can tell. Yeah, me, too. The disclosure is the best one I've ever seen. I agree because it's all people. Legitimacy and credibility. They're all credible.

Everyone in that documentary is credible. And to me, the wild part is when they talk, they explain why we don't release information because we don't want our adversaries to know what we have. Meaning if we have found spacecraft, whatever you want to call it, and it's advanced and we're trying to reverse engineer it, we don't want Russia or China to know what we do or don't have in case they have more or less than us. Makes sense. I imagine everybody who's gotten the same.

page and live in harmony. It's just all right. I've got enough. Don't want them to know what we have and they don't want to know what we have because it'll be anarchy. They'll take over. God, we're only alive for a finite amount of time, guys. Let's just all get along.

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Yes, sir. Rape a murder for a child. This is as bad as it gets. I would think so. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevette and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.

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Does it feel like a job eating? Yeah, when I eat 600 calories. Like, that's the only way I can stay at. Right now, probably about 275 pounds. That's what I want to go into WrestleMania. I wrestle a very athletic style. So I like to keep my cardio good, but the size good, etc. So 275 is about right.

But in order to maintain this weight, I have to eat basically that every day. Or I fade away. My metabolism, even 40 right now. my metabolism is through the roof. What do you think your natural weight would be if you just ate normally? I'd say about 2.30. Wow, really?

Yeah, I drop weight like crazy. Like when I'm sick, I can drop like 15 pounds, 20 pounds in a week. It's just unreal how quick it falls off me. I feel bad for everyone's got the exact opposite problem. Like, oh, it must be so hard. I was to gain the weight. It's really hard. But at the same time, if it was harder to lose the weight,

it'd probably be more upset. If you're wrestling and you have a match with somebody that you genuinely dislike, Oh, yeah. Because who? C. C.M.

But is that genuine, though? Oh, yeah. He's a genuinely terrible, terrible person. And I grew up around him. If anyone, you know, doesn't know him out there, just Google him.

I used to say this to the fans because C Sien Punk was gone from W.E for 10 years because he couldn't hack it. So he quit, even though W.B. gave him everything and all the wrestlers that made him look good

and lost to him and made him a big giant star and made him millions of dollars. He turned his back on everybody. He left, took his ball and went home. Like, absolute piece of crap. He came back to the company. And then everybody's

because I've been chanting his name for years because he is very much like Charles Manson, where he can just convince these fans, he's a good person, he's a Messiah, and they buy into it. And I'm like, good for him. He's a talent, much like Charles Manson. He's a talent to get in people's heads and just make them do what he wants them to do. So they would cheer him. And they started turning on me a little bit. And I was always the Scottish warrior, the hero. I can have, you know, they say held WWW. We all did it. But I was the champion during COVID during the pandemic, when nothing else was on TV. I was the one holding it together. I was like, guys, we can get through this together. I'll be, you know, your warrior, I'll never

give up on you and I tried never to give up the fans even though at that point they started choosing this other guy and cheering this other guy and kind of booing me. I was it, guys, I thought was your guy. This kind of hurts my feelings. I've went through hell for you and this guy doesn't care about you and as time went on. I talked about facts earlier. I deal in facts. I said, just go on the internet

and Google his name and get the character witness reports of the people that know him. He's a genuine piece of crap and get the character witness reports of me. I only ever tried to help people and help people and encourage people to chase their dreams and learn from my mistakes. He's absolute trash. It made for compelling TV.

We ended up having a very entertaining rivalry on TV. We went back and forth in the microphone. He's somebody when I talked about, can I learn to be quick on your feet? He is very quick on his feet. He is very, very good on the microphone. And we shredded each other. We said horrific things about each other.

And it was entertaining for everyone else, but we don't like each other. And we laid into each other. People started questioning. Wait a minute, this pro wrestling thing, you know. I thought it was, you know, when these guys are hitting each other, it seems like they're actually hitting each other

because we were. And we can have an understanding without kind of saying it to each other. other that listen let's try not to break each other's noses let's try not to cause any permanent damage to each other when we go out there we feel this way about each other let's just let out in each other let's see us some kind of therapy and we never had that conversation that's just the way i felt and i assume the way he felt and for our audience it turned into gold because personal issues equal money if you genuinely believe like any boxing fight ufcc if you think they're

generally don't like each other or they do don't like each other you're generally going to pay more money you're going to watch and a result he didn't great entertainment for the fans but see i'm punk is trash See, and I feel like you guys were so good at not liking each other that you actually liked each other because I thought it went off so well that looked like there was a lot of respect there. And you're not messing with me. You're not just angling me here.

No, I can't stand off. To this day, we see each other backstage, whatever. We were in different shows. They moved as different shows. We finally had a big match. The big blow-off match was called Hell in a Cell. I'm sure you know, but for the audience, it's a giant cage with a roof on top of it.

And during the match, you know, he got a couple of marks where he was bleeding in his head. I got hit by a toolbox. and a lot of people say, you must have used the razor blade and cut yourselves and no, I get hit by a toebox and the middle of my head

split right down the middle like an egg. I didn't expect it to happen. He obviously didn't expect it to happen. I'm sure he was loving it. But it resulted in 17 staples, those pictures online where I started bleeding and it was spurting out of my head like crazy. And WWE, like we're, you know, these days

I'm very much on top of the health stuff, especially head injuries. Instantly, the backstage, we're talking to the referee on the headset. They've got little ear pieces in there and saying to me, are you okay? You have to let the doctor check you. So I got out the cage because it was very, very bad.

The doctor was able to look me over and I was telling him, I'm fine, you know, do a quick check that I was all there miraculously because it was such a horrible headshot. But I was still with it and they were monitoring me through the match. But I bled buckets like through that match. We had this great match. It wasn't like a traditional hell in the cell match. There wasn't like stunts in the likes.

We just beat the absolute crap out of each other. And inevitably he won. And I like to say, because of blood loss, you didn't actually beat me, whatever the story was. the story. And yeah, he's a piece of crap to this day. There was no mutual respect. I understand he's good at his job. I understand I'm good at my job. I understand we create magic together, but I understand he's a piece of trash. But there's no respect gained even after you pull off an epic match, because you have to have each other's back to a point in that ring. I would never

hurt my opponent intentionally. That's rule number one. I never ever hurt your opponent intentionally. If you've got real legitimate issues, you go out there, you're professional, you get the job done, and then you just don't talk to each other afterwards. Like when I was a He caused me a few issues personally as well. There was hard to let go, and I've let a lot of things go, and I did let those go. But as far as I was concerned, he's changed in a few ways, but he's not changing a lot of ways.

He's still the way he is. I observe from a distance and see that he's still out for himself. There's a few people out there, I believe, still out for themselves. And he's one of them. I want to give back. I want to lift up this business. I want to make sure the next generation, you know, get the information that I have from 25 years of wrestling.

He's, God knows what age is right now. probably in his 50s. I think he's like 48 or something. I know he wants to hold on to that title. He wants to hold on to that top spot until he retires and not help anybody. And you're not. You're not playing me right now. No, I guess that I don't want to give him all this air time either.

We're just wasting our time talking about this piece of crap. I've fallen for what he does. I know because I told you, Charles Manson like qualities. Yeah, he sucks you in. It's amazing. It's a talent. I don't deny his talent. Like the people that, especially someone that looks like him,

He's skinny and fat at the same time. He's got horrible tattoos. He doesn't drink. He doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. He says like a good type. I wouldn't know because I've never been out with him. I'm not going to go at the bar with him so he can sit and drink freaking pips all night.

So the guy is just an absolute piece of trash. But he does have that amazing talent and he somehow people relate to him and he draws them in. And yeah, that's amazing. Who's an awesome guy? An awesome guy. There's a few awesome guys.

I usually rip on my good buddy, Seamus. But Seamus is an awesome, awesome guy. I always make fun of him for being so old. It was my older brother. I always liked to joke that I met him when I was 19 and he was 43 at the time and we've come up together. But there's a seven-year age gap. So he was an older brother. We wrestled in Europe together when I was at university.

He taught me how to work out to really get in shape. I helped him with his in ring game. We came to America together. He won the W.W.E. title the same night. I won the Intercontinent and at Continental Town. We're sitting in a hotel room. Oh, my God. I can't believe we're pulling this thing off and best met each other's weddings and the likes.

You guys were best met each other's weddings? Oh, yeah. You're real friends then. Oh, yeah, real, real friends. I wish I had the speech on film because I shredded his arse. See, that's why I think the CM Punk thing because you're shredding CM Punk right now. Oh, no, but it's all in good fun when I'm shredding him. Like, you know, also say nice things about him.

I'm not going to say one nice thing about CN Punk. I'm not going to just get Charles Manson, like qualities. I don't know if that's a compliment or not. But with Shamis, I was like, you know, he's a ginger. Like he never got much girls as a kid. I had to help him out with the girls. He was a ginger altar boy. The girls weren't exactly lining up.

It's like a fat ginger altar boy. So I had to help him out with her. The girls in the legs, but then I put him over, put over his wife. I'm going to say nice things about him because he's a genuinely good guy and an amazing wrestler. When you finish a match, if it is a long, intense match, is something always hurt? Always. Not always. Do you come out of a big match ever fully 100% healthy?

No, sore, always sore. These days the schedule is such, like we used to wrestle, we are 52 weeks here, but we used to wrestle three, four days a week minimum. I probably did that for 18 years straight. your body gets calloused eventually you get used to being hurt all the time not injured but hurt all the time just because of the nature of the schedule the flights the cars the matches themselves it all accumulates no matter what you think of wrestling gravity's still real people but these days i probably wrestle one match every couple of months they finally eliminated most of the non-televised shows one the talent we're just getting hurt all the time and going out quicker and two for a profit standpoint it just didn't make sense it never made sense to me profit wise so now the the money's and the TV deals and all the other massive deals that the billion dollar man Nick can is constantly making. So because I'm wrestling once every two months, every three months, I do feel like I've been in a car crash after the matches and I train for each match now.

I assume like a boxer would train for a fight, UFC, fire would train for a fight, I train for each pro wrestling match. I keep myself looking the part on the outside, but also I get ready to take that physical abuse in every match I know is coming up, every big match. Like I know at WrestleMania in less than two weeks I'm wrestling, Jacob Fatu, whatever. It'll be this weekend. When this airs, it'll be this weekend coming up. I'll be wrestling this weekend at WrestleMania against Jacob Fatu in an unsanctioned match,

which means there's no rules. We can use any weapon we want on each other. We've built the story, you know, real well over the past, it's probably been about a six-month build for this story. It was like a side story. I was W.B. champion for a few months, feuding with Cody Rhodes, who's the current W. W.B. champion. And the side story was with Jacob, and we transitioned into Jacob and I.

And I know we've really escalated. And when people see this, you'll see how far have escalated it, I'm harping on his former criminal past, that he served some time, that he's not changed. He's still a convict. He still steals. He stole my world title. He stole my main event at WrestleMania. And in a WrestleMania, I'm going to make him suffer in a no-rules match.

And, you know, I reckon when WrestleMania is over, even though we've got Roman Raines against Siam Punk, big match, big names. We've got Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton, also a big marquee match. When this is over, WrestleMania is over, biggest show of the year, a lot of star power, a lot of celebrity names will be involved. They'll be talking about McIntyre and Fatu because we're going to beat the crap out of each other and make everyone question what they think about pro wrestling. Whenever you are given the story, do you have much input on the direction the story goes?

Oh, 100%. Especially, like, the way the past few years have been, the writers, the creative team is led by Triple H. These days, we're very in the weeds for details. Like, in the past, Vince, it worked for Vince for years, and it probably still would work. It was very, you know, black and white, good guys, bad guys. You know, keep it simple so people can follow the product every week.

But we started, you know, when Triple H wanted to make it so that. But hey, you know, let's treat the ones that are tuning out every week. We have 52 weeks a year. We can create deeper layered stories, deeper layered characters, especially if you know who you are and you're able to add those layers to your characters and able to take fans on a journey with you and understand your reasons for doing things, a lot more shades of grey instead of just black and white. And it's been very cool to, you know, have that opportunity.

And, you know, creative will buzz me. Hey, we're thinking this this week. What do you think? And I'll give my two cents. Then on the day, you know, have the opportunity to go, I'm not feeling this and go to Triple H himself and go, what do you think of this? We'll have a little back and forth.

And then once I get out there, if the live crowd aren't digging it is, oh, no, I'm going to try and change it now. But I'll stay within the confines of the story. But we get real-time feedback by the live audience with 20,000 people doing the exact opposite of what you thought that we're going to do. So if you're confident enough

and you know your character and you're relaxed, like I'm Mr. relaxed, you can take a different direction and make sure the fans start getting involved and kind of doing what you want them to do, which is number one, emotionally involved because if they're not emotionally involved you might as well be I don't know not there

are there two different I don't want to say versions of relief because it's got to feel awesome too but when they tell you you're going to win the title and when you win the title is that two different awesome moments yeah or do you feel like you may not win it if they say you're going to win it they may change it before yeah yeah I mean I've been told I'm going to win it more times that I can count and I never won it

I'm a four I'm a three time WWE champion and one time world champion but I've been told if I'd won every one I was told I was probably going to win. I'd be like a 20-time champion. But yeah, yeah. So when it's something, I get told something's happening. I don't assume it's going to happen. It's just because we're week to week, things can change. People get injured. Storylines change for 100 different reasons. But when I get told I was going to win the most recent one. It was in January, the first smackdown of the year. It was in Berlin, Germany.

I was wrestling Cody Rhodes and the third match we'd had during our storyline together. It was going to be a three stages of hell match, they call it, where it starts off with our regular singles match. It was going to be a street fight. We fought all over the arena and then finishing a cage match. And by this point, everyone's kind of used to Cody being the kind of main centerpiece of the company. He just wins all the time.

That's part of my schick. He's the corporate guy. He wins all the time. It's like repeat watching the show. Him is the champion. I'm here for change. I'm dangerous. I'm unpredictable.

I am. Like, I'll just say whatever's on my mind. It drives the office crazy. But yeah, so everyone just assumed Cody was going to win. And then at the end of that match in Berlin, Jacob showed up to take me out when I was trying to leave the cage. You win a cage match by leaving the cage. And he came in, tried to take me out. Cody got between him, so I was able to escape out the cage. So the way I look at it, I beat two guys to win the title that night. It gave everyone a nice shot because everyone was expecting Cody

to win. It put the good guy who's always kind of winning, like it gets boring if the good guy is just winning all the time. It put Cody in a position where you got the title taken off of him, screwed in a way. He has to chase now. He has to find some grit. He has to dig deep down to overcome the odds. And as the bad guy, I'm able to take the title and say, all right, I finally got the one thing I've been screwed out of for years. It's my character's story. I keep getting screwed and screwed and screwed and screwed. And I finally have this thing.

I'm going to be like, Schmigo and Lord of the Rings, my precious, I would do anything to keep this thing now. So it was very exciting to get told. I was getting it that day. At 5pm, I found out before the show.

That's when you found out. But I got the official word that it was happening because I assume there's a lot of conversations. It's like in WrestleMania season. If something like that happens, it's a huge deal, it has to go through the top, top channels

and everybody got on the same page of the story going forward. And when I got told, I was okay, that's fine. And we had a 45-minute match, but Cody's so good. I know what I'm doing. I wasn't worried about the match whatsoever. So let's give them a show.

And it got everybody talking, it put the characters in an interesting position, it gave the product a shot in the arm for WrestleMania season. And for me personally, the next day, I was in Scotland. So I got to walk out in Glasgow, Scotland, as WWE champion, with my family all there, with my country all there. I'd won the title two times during the pandemic with no fans there.

There was a warehouse the first time I beat Brock for the title. I beat Rand Yard the second time with a bunch of screens and I lost the title by the time the fans came back and I won the world title

at Ressamania I got cheated off at five minutes and 46 seconds layers again all part of the character storyline and I finally had the title in front of live fans

that wasn't just live fans it was in front of my country in front of my family and I was able to tell them what I told you all I was going to bring this back it's taking a few title reigns it's taking a few times

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I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir. Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir.

Rape and murder for a child. She's as bad as it gets. I would think so. People wake up. I'm the one of the one. and saw the murder take place by Creveit and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.

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But I was surprised at how warm and just how, like, kind you are from the second you walked in. Do you like being the bad guy? Oh, yeah. Bad guys are more fun. But the thing about my character, I guess, when I was younger, I was a stereotypical bad guy. I'm far enough from Scotland, ooh, screw you America and all that jazz,

but it's boring. Like, the fun thing about character now is I call myself the last good guy. And I speak in truth. My thing is I never want to lie, but no one likes a complain or nobody likes someone who over explains, and I constantly over-explained why I'm not the good guy. And the reason the way I am is because I get screwed out of the title in 2022, in front of my whole family in the UK, by Roman Raines and his entire family. My family were there, and have you ever heard of PTSD and trauma? I have a lot of trauma, and I kept getting screwed, and people started cheering the other guys, and then CM Punk comes back, then you cheer the other

guy and then I get bleed to death for you all, all my fans that I've fought so hard for, and I'm out for three months, and you all move on. Like, that's part of the character stake, and it's also kind of true, because the product's so fast moving 52 weeks, there's no time to think about who's out of sight out of mind. You don't think about Stone Cold, don't think about the rock unless they're on

TV right in front of them. And I came back, and the mindset was, I've worked my life for you. I've bled to death for you, and you all forgot about me. I got one phone call when I was out, so from now on I'm going to fight for me, fight for my family, and do whatever it takes to become champion. And the whole time, you know, that's like a fun little, fun little bit, but also kind of based in truth.

Deep down, it's true, but it's also not true because I get it. And I love the fans and I love what I do and I feel very fortunate. But it's fun as hell to go out there and play the bad guy, but also believe I'm the good guy because everything I'm given is facts from my perspective and every great bad guy has truth and what they're saying and justification of what they're saying. What's the travel schedule like for you? Every week, all over. But it's not as bad as it used to be. So you're just, you're not flying private everywhere. are you? Sometimes, but not as often as I'd like to. If it's like WrestleMania coming up this weekend, will you fly private because body preservation? Yeah, mate for mania. Yeah, just because of my

wife and family and stuff will be there. If I'm by myself, I'm not that bothered as long as I've got a direct or whatever. And we'll see if the next contract goes, if the company starts paying for it, I'll fly private all the time. But yeah, yeah, it's a big difference having a flying Uber. And when you're in the private plane as opposed to the commercial flights. And unfortunately with Nashville, no offense, Southwest, but it's mostly the direct. It's not ideal for somebody my size. Do you ever have security with you, and are they smaller than you every time?

In America, no security until we get to the venue. I know a security of there. I'm a security of there, and there are some big dudes. I'm big of the most of them, but there's a lot of big dudes. I just happen to be a really big dude. And there's some bad, bad dudes. Like sometimes when I ask them, I was like, hey, man, you've killed guys, haven't you?

Oh, Drew, don't even worry about it. So they're Russian, obviously, yes. That's just one guy from all over. Nobody says no. What is your workout schedule like? These days, again, a little different. I'm more about preserving, preserving the body, but also looking apart.

I train about generally four days with weights, but also focus on mobility and stretching and cardio. I never did cardio ever. Since I played soccer, football. You do yoga, all? I do a little bit like Diamond Dallas Page former wrestler has got his DDPY and I use certain movements I learn from him that are more rehab base or prehab base to strengthen your hips and your shoulders and lower back and things are going to get hurt in our job. The big difference maker for me

was I took on a personal trainer Jeff about eight months ago who comes to like my garage gym. I got a little gym in the house and he goes through everything with me and he's somebody who had brutal bone disease growing up spent a lot of time in a body cast growing up just dreaming of being a bodybuilder and people don't like me like you're going to go to America be a wrestler in WB that's insane for him to think he's going to be a bodybuilder of brittle bone disease that's way more insane and sure enough he did it he's got two rods in his femurs but he strengthened up his tendons he strengthened up his joints and through things he'd learned he'd read about and he started teaching me these things and how important diet is for inflammation

cutting out all the crap like basically I was eating burgers and pizzas and whatever I wanted for years because I always looked apart because of my metabolism we talked about already and he was at No, that's hurting you. You have to start eating right. And the amount of blueberries I eat now is unbelievable. But it's amazing for inflammation. For inflammation, unbelievable. I never drank enough water.

Apparently, even though water is basically, beer is basically water. That doesn't count. So I had to start drinking at your water. But the difference is just incredible how I feel. With all the mobility work, I can throw head kicks. My hips were so bad from wrestling for so long and all the travel and the likes. I couldn't barely throw a psychic anywhere beyond like 90 degrees. I can throw it right past my head.

Now my shoulders feel great. My lower back feels great. Apparently, me, you're a tall guy. I didn't have much of a butt. I'm growing a butt. So everybody out there look for it. Congratulations. Thank you.

When I rip off my kilts or my strip routine, you can also see my lovely butt that I've been building. So I make sure you eat shit in, ladies. What about sleep? Yeah, I mean, we talked about my mild lark, narcolepsy. I love sleep. I freaking love sleep. How many hours a night can you get?

How many hours a night do you think you need to have? To operate my full capacity, I think, eight, nine hours for me personally. If I get that in, I know I'm going to be good. depending on how busy my week is. I had a crazy, crazy last week. Again, this is not a normal week, but I did TV last Friday. I honestly can't remember where it was,

but I flew back home on the Saturday, no, that's not right, I did TV on Friday, then I got a flight home after TV on Friday, and then Saturday at 2 I left to London, then I had Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in London, then I hopped on a flight back to Nashville, got in at midnight,

and then I took a 625, and to TV in St. Louis this past Friday. So I had a bit of a crazy, crazy past week. Wow. And then you still have to stay disciplined within all of that, with your food. Yeah, yeah, it's not so easy when you get to UK. Luckily, I've got a lot of contacts there since I'm from there to get me, the meal prep meals.

But yeah, yeah, there's a lot of food that's bad for you in the UK. And a lot of chips, like fries, you call them here, but like the proper chips, it tastes so good. But got to be careful. I'll gain 20 bad pounds. Three final questions. when you were coming up and you were doing the independence, or I guess it could have been before WWE or even back in the middle,

were there any wrestlers that you looked up to as a kid that were really awesome to you once you finally got to meet them? Got tons. I'd feel bad because I'll forget a bunch of names, but just a few, I guess, quickly off top of my head because everybody, I can't think of one person that's been bad to me. I never watched punk growing up, so I'm good with that. See, that's why I think you're kidding about CM Punk, though.

But every time I think of anyone that's genuine. I really don't like except him. I don't have no time for hate in my life. So I don't really hate him. I just think he's a piece of crap. Like, I have no time for hatred. I don't hate you, punk. You're just a piece of trash.

So people I watch. Undertaker has one that I was a massive fan of growing up. And when I got to W.E. Vincent Mann, put him in charge of me as my mentor. He said, you don't listen to anybody else. You listen to the Undertaker. So he was the one that was always there for advice when I was 23, 24 years old. When I was living in Texas, he would work out of the 24-hour fitness that I was going to? worked at a toy for our fitness.

In Austin, he would go to the stair machine and just walk. All right. On the stairs. I was like, how you got work getting out in there? Well, he wouldn't live, but he would go to the stair machine and just walk. He would be there walking when I got there. I'd leave an hour and 10 minutes later. He'd still be walking.

Oh, really? On the stair machine. Oh, wow, I can't do that. And you can't miss it. I do 30 minutes and it drives me insane. Yeah. Give me another one. Give me another.

Oh, there's so freaking many. I'm like Sean Michaels. Somebody growing up, Brett Hart. I got to do a European tour of Germany with Germany with Brett Hart. He was a massive name everywhere, the hitman, but he was a massive, massive name in Germany, and I was Intercontinental Champion at a time. You know, a title he made famous before he won the world title,

so it was cool, traveling around Germany with Brett, with the title, hearing all the stories about all the shenanigans he got up to that he can't write about in his book, and I can't tell on this podcast. And with Sean himself, when I returned to WWI, I spent some time in NXT, and Sean, I just came in there. And I spent time when I was younger with them, but I really had some one-on-one time. I didn't have to go to NXT, I could just do the shows,

but I asked can I come and work with you and he was like if you don't mind driving up it's like a four hour round trip I was like show Michael's one of the best of all time I will take the trip to work with you and it's like a PhD going back and forth with him kind of learning the way he thinks about wrestling his IQ level is so high

just the way he thinks about how we do things in this industry and how we can connect with people emotionally and obviously Triple H head of creative now has always been there just for any question I have and I say can we do this? I said a lot similar to I fit friendly who's a big mentor of mine too like these get the same like triple h and finley are the same when i take them an idea and go what do you

think of this and they go why wouldn't you do it this way because no one's ever done that before you just invented it right now because you're so good that's what they say to you no no i say it to them oh god i mean i wish to send it to me as drew you're the man oh my god you blow our mind revolutionized wrestling drew but uh no no like people like finley and like triple h even like shone as well like just their minds are such i come up with something that is i believe's creative and i believe's never been done and i don't think it had been done the way i have in my head because I'm very crave, I think about it all the time, but they're such an advanced level.

They hear it, they tweak it, and they come back with a suggestion, and I say that's never been done. Why are you just saying it like as a normal thing? Two questions left. Whenever you're going into a match at WrestleMania, coming up this weekend, do you have to purposefully calm yourself down

so you can think clearly? Because I'd imagine the adrenaline is pumping. It's the event. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm pretty good at staying pretty relaxed, especially during the day. I'm fine until it gets close to the match. but I got a bit of a routine now

I never really had a routine before because they keep us busy you know you have an appearance here and maybe a meet and greet there earlier in the day we're around fans and stuff and keeping you moving

and it keeps your mind kind of off the task at hand and by the time mania comes around I've already kind of thought through what I want the match to be what I want to present if it's a dangerous match like the one I have

I'll probably know certain moments they're going to happen because of the danger elements but the rest of it I want to feel when I get out there but I'll still have a picture in my head and the story I want to tell and the emotional when I vote from the crowd.

Once it starts getting really close to the match, I'll start getting more specific. And this is probably something you could have thought of two weeks before, but we are week to week with a TV show every week, and I really start zoning in and zoning in. And it's like, you know, like an actor or whatever. Like the words on the page, you know, where it can be amazing, but then someone can do them terrible

and they mean nothing or the words can be basic and somebody can just have such an performance or the words don't matter. Like it's the performance you're giving to everybody. Like, I've got something in my head that could be really good or something we talk about, It could be really good.

But if you're not there emotionally, that the moves don't mean crap. You have to connect with that audience. You have to get them involved. You have to get them making noise. You have to get them to feel something. Or it means, you know, Jack, basically. And I'm all about just sitting down and thinking, okay,

once I get out there, boom, the moves go out in my head. All that matters is what's going on in my eyes, because that's all that matters. The fans can't articulate it, but they can feel it subconsciously. If you're not in the moment, if you're not present, of every single thing you're doing, every movement you're doing, every emotion you're putting out there,

even for a second, if you slip out in your eyes and they see it, they're like, ah, it's just fake wrestling. So as soon as I go out there, I'm in it 100% of the time. I expect Jacob to be at 100% of the time, and we're finished. They're going to be talking about this match for a long time. After a match, do you ever go to dinner with the person you just wrestled? I mean, it's happened, but unless it's like a shamis or... Not common.

Sorry? Not common to hang out after. No, I mean, sometimes. Yeah, like, if we went to the bar, whatever, and some of the lads are there, they may have a drink with the guy you just beat the crap out of. Yeah. So most of the guys that's, you know, the case with. All right, final question.

Can you buy clothes off the rack anywhere? No. No. I got this from a gentleman's playbook. I think this is from? You're welcome. Give me a free one. But yeah, yeah, most of the stuff is custom.

My weird shaped body, like my legs are long as hell and big as hell, so I can just walk in and get a pair of jeans or the skinny jeans. My wife will laugh at me and even jackets or anything. T-shirts I can generally get certain brands of T-shirts that look in my mind pretty cool, but she'll rip on me for, you know, wearing one of her shirts. but it's actually one of me. I really appreciate the time. Yeah, appreciate you having me.

Yeah, this is awesome. Again, I didn't know what to expect. You're our massive guy, obviously, but, yeah, super nice. Thank you. Do you find people, do you find people are surprised that you're so nice sometimes? Because they expect you to be the dude on TV? I get a couple of things. One, you're a lot bigger in real life and you're on TV, and I tell them to get a bigger TV.

And two is like, yeah, the kids are so scared of you, but then suddenly they're just hanging off the side of it. And I was like, yeah, and I always tell with the kids as well, I meet a lot of kids backstage. if the athletes and stuff come. And I was telling, just remember me how I am. Not how I'm about to be out there because I know as soon as the red light goes on. I mean, one of my nicknames is a Scottish psychopath for a reason. Well, I hope you have a...

How do you root somebody good luck in wrestling? Like, I don't want to say good luck, but not break a leg. I don't know, what do you say? Is there a non-bad luck type good luck? Kill it, Drew, and make sure you have a better match than that idiot, CM Punk. See, I don't believe you. I love saying it because I know you're going to react with that every time.

I don't believe you. I think you probably root you. really love the guy. I just love the guy. I honestly, I do feel that you love Siam punk. Okay, I promise you, I do not love Siam punk. I absolutely do not love Sian punk.

He caused me issues when I was younger, legitimately. We're working together. He made things difficult at times. And the other times where I thought he was trying to help me out, he was only trying to help himself out. And thankfully, I'm not young and naive like I was once, and he's a piece of crap, and I don't have to work with him anymore. So I can run my mouth about him

and I can't help myself because I'm such a trash talker. Nice guy, but if I don't like, I wouldn't shut off about you. He does have a favor. I'm giving him all this promotion right now, but I'm also educating the fans of what a piece of trash he has.

And I'm trying not to swear, and I've done really well today. As a Scottish person, we swear to punctuate sentences, and I've done so weird. Maybe I swore once, just almost to stop myself. But no swears,

because I would be calling them the F word, the C word. I'm torn. I like you, though. Thank you. I like you, too. Thank you very much, True. After WrestleMania, you're super healthy. I'll be watching.

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