The Bobby Bones Show - BONUS: BobbyCast - #227 - Bands People Hate That Are Crazy Successful

Episode Date: May 24, 2020

In this episode, Bobby and Eddie talk about bands who are generally hated...even though they have hits, a large number album sales, awards...but for some reason they anger people and critics. We looked at different “Worst Band” reader polls, album sales and review from Billboard and Rolling Stone and came up with our own list. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just search Bobbycast wherever you're listening to this podcast right now. Hit that follow button, hit that subscribe button. And also leave that five-star rating and leave a quick review. With that said, here's episode 227 of the Bobbycast. bands people hate that are crazy successful. Check it out. Welcome to episode 227 of the Bobbycast, your favorite musical podcast.

I'm trying out new slogans. I'm working chauvin. Your favorite musical podcast. Yeah, your favorite music podcast from Nashville. I'm going to talk about despised bands that are crazy successful, maybe the logic as to why they're so despised. Let me recommend the Luke Combs podcast, though,

that we just did here. It will be our highest streamed podcast. Really? We were looking at the numbers today. He's just blown up so fast. Why aren't people so interested in him? Because he's so relatable? Well, he writes first, you have to write really good songs.

Like all that other stuff comes in second. If you can't, you can have everything right and not write good songs, that's not going to work. Yeah, and his songs are really good. And he writes really good songs. So first and foremost, the songs. Secondly, he can sing as good as anyone else. Yeah. I guess it's masked by the roughness.

of his voice, but yes, it's very controlled. His texture, I mean, you know, you think of the Shays from Dan and Shay. You think of the Cary's, you know, just the pure vocalist, but he's on that level, but because he's not shiny and he's a little rough, you don't really consume it the same way in your mind. And there is a little bit of it. Also, I would say thirdly would be his appearance. the first two things aren't supposed to go with the third.

You don't normally look like a normal dude whenever you can sing really well and you write really good songs. It's just a rare combination. You know, Stapleton's a bit of that. Right. Although I put Stapleton, I would say Stapleton is a lot more character in his voice

than he is a straight pure vocalist like Lou Combs. I would say Lou Combs can out sing Stableton. I'd say Stableton's voice is probably a little stronger or like, I don't know. I don't know. No one sings what the punch Luke Combs does in our studio. Like just sitting there acoustic. When Luke Combs, Sunday, it's just like, like sucks the wind out of you.

And even when he talks, it's a very heavy, thick voice. If you listen to the podcast that we did, I'm talking like this normal, but when he talks, it's right of him. And there's such a disparity in the levels, because I didn't want to get up here and do the podcast like this too. Yeah. So mostly it's like me sound like this. And him sounded like this. but yeah it's this wild to think of Luke Combs from the beginning because before he had a song that was ever,

his first hit wasn't even a top 50 or 60 song and I put him in my class of maybe 28, 19. Early. Yeah, before first hit, before he was on the verge, before any of that. And so what's been cool about that is artists usually remember that and I don't talk about that very often, but artists usually remember the people that kind of jumped out on him first and helped him out.

And I think our relationship's been good because of that. Same with Stapleton. Him and I are cool for the same reason that we had Chris coming in to play as an artist before he had really had a big artist's career. Yeah, and it's cool to see a lot of these artists open up with you just every time you interview them. From the first time you interview them,

they're kind of closed off. They don't really know what to do or what to say. But then after the third or fourth time, they're just like an open book. And I bet the Bobbycast is like, ah, just sell you whatever. Ask him whatever he'll tell you. You know, the great thing about this podcast

is that it's just one-on-one. And so they feel not pressure, sure to perform, but when you're just talking one-on-one and you're recorded, there's a weight on you to keep it going and keep it interesting. There's nowhere to go. There's no publicist. There's no other people on the show. There's not a five-minute segment that you can just stall your way through. When people come in here, it's usually the best stuff because you're just sitting here. And sometimes I'll freeze people out and just be quiet. But to be like, yeah. And then you feel like, oh my God, I got to talk. They feel like I got to talk. And sometimes they'll

I just did that right now. Yeah, yeah. I don't like the silence. What do I say? They'll start chasing their tail around until they kind of catch where I want them to go. Yeah. And I'll let them go sometimes.

Just go, go, go. We'll get it. We'll get it. We'll get there. There he is. He got it. So, but it was, the Luke Holmes podcast was really good.

But today, Eddie, by the way, check out Eddie's podcast, the sore losers, which is a sports show with Eddie, Ramundo, and lunchbox and sports

and also funny guy stuff. Yeah. So I want to get that plug in there. Thank you. Appreciate that. Which is the only reason you do this to get your plugs. That's the only reason I come here, yeah. You make me drive from my house to yours.

Well, the studio is here? How far is your house from my house? It's just under 30 minutes. I try to time it out perfectly. If I leave 25 minutes, I'm going to be late. Or just right on time. So it's just right between 25 and 30 minutes. But it's weird.

It's a straight shot. It feels like it should be a lot shorter, but it's not. It's not. And, man, there are a lot of houses for sale. in your area. I might just move a little closer here. A count of like 10 houses for sale. I'm like, well, that's a nice one. That's a nice one. But they're probably expensive.

Right? See, that's all you got to do is sit. You just sit quietly. And just keep going. Well, the reason I think they're expensive. I'm just sitting here like, but you feel how you're like, oh, God, I got to keep going. Ask me whatever. I'll tell you. You know what I'll do?

I'll move my head off the mic too, like I just did you. So it doesn't look like I'm going to see. say anything. I'll lean my head away over here. So, just keep going. What else am I going to do? My mouth, not even near the mic, so you know I'm not going to save you. Uh-huh. Yeah, there's a lot of houses selling it. There really are. Shocked. A lot of people moving from that,

moving away, I guess. Get you a deal. Right. It's the perfect market. You know what I watched today was that movie you told me to watch on Netflix. Shot in the dark? The long shot. The long, oh, the long shot. Yes. Short.

It's a 40, I got a couple things I watched. It's a 40-minute document. about a guy who they said killed a girl. Correct. A 16-year-old girl. Yes, he's accused of murdering a 16-year-old girl. Because his brother was on trial for murder, and he went to watch it, and that girl is the one that he'll put his brother away. So they just said, well, it looks like you and you were in the courtroom. Yes.

Now you. Yes. Most importantly, it looks like you, because they just depended on a sketch that one witness that saw, in the dark, saw what this guy look like, sketched it up, and this guy kind of looked like it, so they arrested him. I'll talk about that for a second because there were a lot of guys that look very similar. They had like 20 sketches exactly like this dude. Oh, yeah. It's like, I mean, Mexican-American, like you put a mustache, even on me, like right now, I probably kind of look like that dude.

Just a mustache. Yeah, and shave my head. Yeah. And so they put him in. And then they were actually shooting. He went to the Dodgers game. He was like, it was the Dodgers game. But they can't find them.

Well, at first they were just like, well, how can you prove you weren't there? He's like, I don't know. And it's funny, too. Like, if you do something, what, a year or what is a few months away? and you just tell him, what were you doing this random Thursday? I don't know if I could tell you what I was doing. I had to really think about it.

And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was at a Dodgers game. Well, it may be good for me than I have every minute every day in my calendar. That probably does help. I get out of murder and then pretty easy. But yeah, you're right. So he's like, yeah, I was at a Dodgers game.

They put his daughter on the stand, by the way. She was six. Gosh, that was painful to watch. And they asked her, what did you get? But she freaking knew it. She did. And so they went into the Dodgers camera system and found him,

but the resolution wasn't close enough. So they're like, all right. So then Curb Your Enthusiasm is shooting there. And he happens to be in a freaking scene of Curb Your Enthusiasm. But then, there's a lot of but then. I won't stop it there. You should watch it. But it was only 45 minutes. Pretty good. Yeah, the lawyer was just on a chase to find footage of him to prove that he was at that Dodgers game. Pretty crazy. Larry David shows up in the documentary too. The whole thing, it's not a series. It's one episode. Again, less than an hour. But it's pretty good. Yeah, the long shot.

I also watched, I think, four episodes of the Justin Bieber documentary. Oh, yeah, how's that? Good. You're already starting to like Beaver a little bit. I have been, my mind has been altered of Bieber because of people that know Justin. So my girlfriend now kind of knows him a little bit. She goes to church with him. She's like, he's the greatest guy.

He's super nice. Once you're, like, he's so approachable. He plays soccer with, like, friends. And so. You wouldn't think that. by reading just the internet. Well, I guess I would compare it to someone like, let's just compare to someone like a Keith Urban right here in Nashville.

If you know him, you can just go up to his house and hang out and it's not a big deal. If you're already in, but if not, it's probably impossible. If you're just a fan, it's probably impossible to get to him. But yeah, so yeah, I like him a little bit because he's supposedly really nice and super cool. Not the same as us.

The kid's been famous since he was. True, yeah. 10, 11, 12? Was he that young? How old was Bieber? Probably like 12. You think of that baby? Yeah.

There's a part in the maybe second episode, third episode, where he goes and they have a clip of him meeting his wife. Haley Bowler. He's like 12. She's like 11. Wow. And he's like, you know, I kind of remember it. He goes, I remember being Stephen Baldwin. And he goes, Stephen Baldwin's daughter was there.

And most kids are like, ah. And she was like, eh, and they show a clip. And she's like half asleep. does not give a crap. She's like, yeah, okay. She got drugged on a morning show to have to meet Justin Bieber. Yeah. And she just does not care.

You imagine just being around famous people so much that when you see Justin Bieber, you're like, whatever. And so they have that clip. It's pretty good. All the episodes, I bring it up because we mentioned that episode of that Netflix documentary is four. They're only like 10 minute episodes. Oh, that's cool.

So I think I'll get you through a lot, I guess. Yeah, maybe watch four of them. But it's pretty good. I wouldn't pay the $49.99 for the whole YouTube TV service. Yeah. Unless I was on my computer or phone all the time watching all my TV from my computer and phone. I guess if I were going to do what we're doing now, I'd do like, do you turn a volume up, Mike? Oh, yeah.

No, did, oh, I felt like I was a little. New Luke Combs in it over there. I don't know that I would watch Hulu Live is my main live TV. Amazon's got pretty good live TV. Do they? Well, Amazon where you can get all the channels via the app, but you can, watch all the live sports through all the packages and they're right there as part of Amazon.

That's where I am right now. There's just so many options. I don't know what to do. For sure, I'm getting rid of cable. I mean, I just have to get rid of cable now. Problem is my internet is tied to my cable, so I've got to figure out a way to just to keep the internet. So I'll probably do that.

But, man, with all the options out there of all that's live TV, especially sports and my old movie channel, yeah, I'll probably end up just getting rid of cable soon. Well, the only things that I watch are the office on Netflix, every day, sports, and

CNN. That's basically it. You're an old man. Yeah. I fart and I watch sports CNN in the office. You know what I watched? That was pretty good

and I might watch the entire thing if I don't know, see what happens. Gilmore Girls. It just came on like one episode of Gilmore Girls. Mike, it just came on. Okay.

Yeah, go ahead. Randomly. Go ahead. And I was like, I can get into this. The first episode, me. It's really good. The new Gilmore and Or than...

From the 90s. I think it's 90s, 2000 or something, because I can tell from the music that they're using. It's pretty old. Is that, I don't want to wait? Or is that... That's Dawson's Creek. Something like that.

I think a lot of like Sarah McLaughlin may be in there. I don't know. But it's definitely that soundtrack. Why is it good, though, to you right now? Because she's a single parent, and it was just... I watched Parenthood, which is a really good show, too.

I watched that a couple years ago. But the girl on parenthood's in Gilmore Girls, she's one of the main girls, Laurela, I guess is her character. But it was just the way they set up the first pilot was really good. She's a single mom and she can't afford to pay for her daughter's school. So she asked her to ask her rich parents for money. And her parents are like just distant, no connection at all, no emotional connection to her parents.

But they're like, sure, we'll give you money. But we got to be more involved in your life. And they're like, da-da-da. And it seemed kind of interesting. and like, all right, this could go somewhere cool. I think it went somewhere cool. Yeah. And it's since ended, right, Mike?

Yeah, 2000, 2007. Well, as far as I'm going to watch. I saw the first episode of the Munsters. I'm really looking forward to seeing where this goes. This thing may have a future. I started watching, I got through the first half of Knives Out. Oh, yeah. Maybe the first of the movie.

Have you seen a Mike? No, I haven't seen that. Oh, really? No. I heard mixed things about it. Is it British? I was really looking for a review. No.

It's like a mystery. Well, again, I've only seen the first third of it. It seems like kind of clue. Why are you watching movies in thirds? First of all, shut up. Like, you should watch a movie in its entirety. Make time to watch a movie. The other movies I've seen are very long.

I watched Netflix. What's that a lot? Irishman? Yeah, too long, right? So I watch it in halves. The movie with Brad Pitt and DiCaprio once a part of time in Hollywood. Did you like it?

Almost three hours. Watched it in two parts. This one, we were watching it last night and fell asleep. and so paused it, obviously. I don't have, I can't do long. That's what she said. Okay. But I can't do long.

All right. It's what, two and a half hours, three hours. That's so long. I like a movie about an hour 47 minutes. That's been our whole life, though. Our whole life we've been watching movies that long. Two hours. Hour 47 minutes is about my perfect time.

Okay. Yours, Mike? I'd say, yeah, like 150. If it's $1.50, it's solid. By the way, check out Mike's podcast. Movie mics. Movie mics, movie podcasts. Joe, have you seen Knives Out?

Not yet. No, dang, nobody has seen Knives Out. Sorry, dude. I know. Despise bands that are crazy successful. And let's start with Nickelback. Really, one of the most successful bands of all time. How many hits?

Let's see here. Under 10. Nickelback sold over 50 million albums. Dang, okay. They rank as the second best-selling international act in the two. 2000s. Who do you think they're behind? The second best international act of the 2000s, only behind one act. I bet I know who you're going to say. The 2000s? Yeah. One, two, three. You don't know. Radiohead? The Beatles. Oh. More than you too, more than radio head.

Is this factual? I look at Mike. He confirms. Through nearly a decade, pop culture has been incredibly cruel to nickel back. I've always been a lover of them more so than I think I would be because of all the hate on them. Like, I would just kind of sit at a 6.5 normally because they have songs we know and like, but because everybody hates them, I kind of feel bad for them, so I put them at like a 7.3 because of that.

Sometimes I think we get tricked into liking something. What do you mean? But the songs are good. You sing them. Sometimes I think that they're just on the radio so much that we're like, all right, whatever. It's like you say sorry. It's not a bad song.

But if you heard that once, I think 90% of the people, that heard that once we're like, this sucks. I don't think so. I think there were a lot of songs you only heard once and never sang back. Yeah, there are a lot. Yes, but I think we heard this too much. And Nicky back had so many number ones.

That's so many number ones. How many? Do we need to look at the, we look at it's like 8, 9, 10, 11 songs? All right. They even had songs on super soundtracks. Yeah, Spider-Man, I remember that one. So you just want to be a hater because of Chad Kroger's hair. No.

No. It's long. No. Yeah, you do. I don't understand the hate. Like, tell me why. why you're a hater? I just, at the time that came out, to me, that was like,

it's easy music. Sometimes it's just like, why isn't everybody doing it? It's like Sam Hunt and Body Like a Backroad. People go, that song's so easy to write. Then why don't you write it? I think, no, I don't think I can write it. But I think that most people don't try to do that

because they don't want to get stuck doing that. Like, all right, it's easy music. Like, where's nickel back now? There's no longevity in Nickelback. There's no longevity in almost any of those bands in the 2000. or any decade. The fact, the longevity,

50 million albums? Nickelback does a tour again and they sell out? Yes. They're touring this year, yeah. They do. I don't know. I don't know.

That's just where my mind is with them. It's because you've been tainted by the media. No. And I love the media. I'm not a media eater. But you listen to people say they'd suck.

Otherwise, they would just go away and that'd just be a band you didn't care for at the time. Well, why are they the most despised band? Because it became a thing. It became like

it's cool to hate Nickelback. And I probably would too, except everybody was hating on them. So you just want to defend them. All right. They won't even do interviews because they know half the questions we have about everybody hating them. You imagine. That would be terrible. They still sell a lot of concert tickets and they'll probably still be laughing 10 years from now

with all their money. Billionaires. Yeah, right. Yeah. Dave Matthews band. Oh, people hate them? People hate them because they're, they jam. And now here's a little clip of Dave Matthews band.

Now, I'll say this. I love Dave Matthews band. band, I think any criticism of them is unfair. I think they should have been put in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year because they were so different. Dave Matthews band has sold over 33 million albums in the United States. In 2018, they scored the biggest week for a rock album in years and years. They've had the number one most consecutive studio albums.

So they're basically a 90s college band. Right now, the band's worth an estimated $72 million. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I guess if you weren't in the 90s, early 2000, thousands with them, you would definitely hate them. Because they continue to put out music. I'll be honest, I never listen to it. I do. I listen to some of it. I like the emo stuff.

You do? I like emo Dave. We're just sad. We're Dave Matthews. I'm going to play what that song right now. Like the last I remember of really listening to Dave Matthews was, where are you going? Yeah, I just played on the radio. It's good stuff. Yeah. But after that, I kind of fizzled out just because I was a, I love Dave. I was a huge

Dave fan. I do love Dave Matthews band. So I've never hated him. D-B-Dim-B-Dim-B-D-Badden. Ducin. Cut, cut, cut. I love Dave Matthews band. So, I give, I'll give Knickleback a 7.3. What do you give them? We'll rank them all.

One. Oh. What a hater. Get out of here. Like, just get off the map. So stupid. Erase yourself. Dave Matthew's band.

Oh, a nine. Yeah. Dave Matthews band is great. I give them 8.5. Nine for me. You're right. They changed music. Yeah.

A white guy from South Africa. Yes. Getting predominantly black band in a 15-year-old bassist. Yes. They had to sneak into bars because he wasn't old enough to play with him. My manager put the freaking band together. Amazing. And Charlottesville.

Yeah, I know. I love that. Okay. We'll move on. Let's hear a clip from Creed. Who cares? Mike, did you add thunder to this? I did have thunder to that.

Okay, so I loved to Creed. I was part of the Creed Revolution back in the day. You're so dumb. I went to Creed shows. No, you did not. I went to two. Did you pay for the tickets? Be honest with me.

I'm trying to think. I was probably in radio at the time. I didn't have to pay, but I'd have to go. Single, nothing to do. I don't have to stay. I played ping pong with Scott Stapp once. Really? He came in.

He was like, hey, man, Scott Stats. You talked like that too? Yeah, and I was like, hey, man, what's happening? He goes, do you know, play any ping pong? And I didn't? I was like, yes, of course. And he made me like 15-0 and just walked out of the room. Oh, like he knew you'd never play.

They've sold 58 million records worldwide, more than Nickelback. They got tricked. So they were, what, no, they, people got tricked again. No one's getting tricked. You know why I didn't like him? Because they stole, he stole my boy's voice, Eddie Vedder. Like, Pearl Jam. You sound like DMX and John Ball right now.

Eddie Vedder owned that voice. He didn't own that right. Yeah, oh my gosh, he was the first. Oh, no, Jeremy. And then here comes this dude. With arms not open. When people do a creed voice, they do an Eddie Vedder voice. Okay, so this is personal.

So this was called butt rock. Excuse me? The butt rock genre. Heavily distorted guitars. They say paint by number songwriting. Boom. Deeply graveling male vocals. Paint by number songwriting.

I love that. A lot of it happens here, though. Sure, but you can't deny a good song. And I don't hear good songs when I hear. I can list you a lot of them. My own prison. I know the songs. Arms wide open.

My sacrifice. God, they had a lot of good songs. Stop. Okay, where would you put Creed? I give Creed 7.2. Oh, wow. Below Nickelback. I'll put them at 0.5.

Wow, below Nickelback? Yep. You like Creed less than Nickelback? Correct. At least Creed's American. It's not about that. I love the Beatles. They're British.

Creed split apart and then they were altered bridge. The rest of the band without Scott Stout. Is he okay now? I don't know. Okay. I think he's had his moments in and out, but I'm not sure. When that video resurfaced, that was like, people were worried for him. He'll probably send you a cameo for a dollar.

See how much is cameo's worth? See if Scott Stapp does cameo. If it's less than a dollar, I'll buy one for you, then. I'll buy it right now. Mike Dio'll give you my credit card. Well, Sam, Steve Scott Stapp is on cameo. I get people all the time asking me, hey, will you do cameo? Why don't you do it?

I don't, I don't, I don't want to do that yet. You do that for free too. Yeah. Oh, I got it. How much do you think? Okay. For real, real. I'm going to say a Scott Stap cameo, 50 bucks.

I say it's high demand because it's a good joke. It's a good joke. It's a good joke to get Scott Scott to call your friend. I would say $30. Way off. How much? $500. What?

Oh my God. Bones, you need to get on cameo. Well, you could make a little. some good money. Wow. I know. But don't, do you guys look at cameo? There's some big people on there. Mike, I'll ask you this too. Do you look at cameo as a desperate thing? A little, a little bit, yeah. It's like an extra way to like, oh, you're on cameo. I feel bad for people. Yeah, the celebrities that I don't know on cameo, I feel bad for them. If I got on cameo, people will be like, all right, you're trying to milk everything for money now. But isn't everyone, and then that kind of tell you

that everyone is a celebrity in a weird way? Like, we don't look at that list. Really, if you look at that list, you'll probably only see like 20 people that you really know. Probably more than that. More? But yeah. But Jake Owen does it for charity. He doesn't get money. Yeah, that's cool.

And I look, not a lot of people do that. Like, really, not a lot. How much was Jake for charity? Let's see. I thought about doing this cameo game on the year, but I thought it would give him a bunch of free promotion. Cameo? Yeah.

It's a good bit. Jake's $100. Oh, yeah. I mean, moderately priced and he gives all the money away. And Scott's to have $500. Crazy. Yeah. Smash mouth.

And here's a clip from Smash Mountain. Hey now, you're an all-star. Get your game on. Go play. Hey, now. You're a rock star. Get the show on. Get me.

So I will compare Smashmouth to another band later in this list where they didn't end up how they started out. They kind of had some success, and it just altered what music they made because they realized they could be superstars with massive hits. Right. And so they were a ska punk act And they were a legitimate Scal Punk act By the way, they'll be Their anniversary is like 23 years

23 years tomorrow Wow And they're still going So they were in a Super Bowl commercial Yeah they were Yeah I saw them in a commercial today It kind of as a joke But yeah

Steve Harwell from Smash Mouth is on there Cameo Yeah It'd be cheaper than Scott Stapp Smash Mouth has sold more than 10 million albums But they had hits with the Not easy but the very very down the middle stuff, like All-Star,

walking on the sun. I'm a believer, which was a remake from the monkeys. That was on the movie, Shrek. And so, you know, they started to go, wow, we're mainstream famous doing not that ska or punk stuff, but they had Walking on the Sun, feels like I'm walking on a. Yeah, it's a good song.

So they had this pop stuff, and they started to go, why are we making this ska punk stuff? We can just do the pop stuff. I don't hate them. I've never hated them. Like, even when they came out, I liked their sound. Dan, na, na, na, nan. The walking of the sun sound was really cool.

I mean, I liked it all the way. And I don't hate on bands making money. You just hate it on Creed. No, no, no. Creed was just terrible. Creed was terrible. They weren't. And the fact people loved them.

Like, get out of here. No one loved Creed. No one loved. Yes, they did. 50 million an album. No one loved Creed. I have worked at two different shows. Smash Mouth, like, if you find a way to be,

50 and still make music and making money, do it. Smashmouth has allegedly had a beat for smashing pumpkins for years. That'd be a funny fight. After their catchy anthem was picked over a song for Shrek, because they were, Smashy Pumpkins had a song up for it. Billy Corgan was fighting for a Shrek spot. Aren't we all?

Him to me, though, he'd be on Cameo for sure. Billy Corgan? Oh, yeah. Well, let's see. Is Steve Harwell on cameo? He is not, or the band is not. Wow. Because they're still making money.

I bet you Billy Corgan's not, though. I don't know. Some of the business decisions I've seen him make. He is not. Give me your smashmouth ranking. I'll put him at eight. That's really high. Yeah, because I like smash mouth.

Like 10 is John Mayer to me and Garth Brooks. Oh, you're right, you're right. Let me bring him down a little bit. I'll go five then. Five, right down the middle. I give him a 3.8. Wow. Why so low?

I don't like Smashout that much. Why not? They let me down. I was in way more into their early stuff. They let you down. I mean, I give them a four. Did you watch at the end of Shrek when all the cats? members are singing when I was on my face.

No, I didn't. That's good stuff. Right, but that's what people know them for now. I don't know them from that. I just know them from the early radio stuff that I played. I'm not a hater. Example. I bought my son an electric guitar and we just plugged it in today for the first time. And he's like, and I held it and he goes, can you play smash mouth? Like out of nowhere.

He asked that. So there's a different connection to me. He's 12 years old. That's cool, man. What if you had to say, dad, can you play creed? No, I'd be get out of here. No. You're grounded.

smash it over your knee. A hated band Insane Clown Posse. I'll play you a clip of ICP. Yeah. So their whole thing was they're painted up. I would say like kiss.

Right? They had a whole paint thing. They're white rappers. They are kind of grungy, chubby. Their songs are about sometimes death.

Like weird stuff, right Mike? Yeah, pretty weird stuff. And so like a lot of like horror. What year was this? Like 2000s? Before that. Really? I would say before that. I remember hearing that, but I didn't know who's saying that. I didn't really even try to research who's saying that.

And they were very independent. But they made a lot of money. Last year, Psychopathic, the record label, made more than $10 million. Last year? They have the gathering of the juggalo's, a three-day festival. It's been going on for almost 20 years. Joe just shook his head like he was a big fan.

like SCP? I'm okay with them. I've researched the thing. What's the thing? It's like everyone paints up like clowns. Oh, we mean the festival? And they spray soda on each other. Really?

It's really weird. Yeah. Wow. So, I should try that, bones next year. I don't know enough about them to give them a real rating because I was never into them enough to not be into them. Yeah, I don't know anything about it.

I feel like all the rest we were so exposed to, we could hate them or love them. I'm going to give it an I, my number, an incomplete because I don't really have exposure to them. You know what I know the most from is Howard Stern. They would go on that show all the time. Really? Mm-hmm.

In interviews. Did he like them? Like them as people. I don't know if he liked their music. He said they were nuts. Yeah. Limpisket. Ooh, it's a good one.

Eleven. There you go. I love Lent Bistin. I loved them. I loved them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of them, all the tenses? See if Fred Durs is like came in a cameo.

people they did a ranking of most obnoxious acts of all time and limp biscuit is most of the time at number one and all of these they are oh see there's a lot of stuff written here about them they killed 90s music they kind of came in after the grunge stuff though you know what grunge did to the hair metal that's the glam metal yep limb biscuit corn p o d that's right that was kind of the group

like big anthemic heavy distorted guitar but rap white guy rap over it and that was early 2000s I loved it could not get enough of it there was definitely a kind of person

that was into that I think me what is that and what kind of person were you just me I'm the person it was just spelt it in your heart I have a friend who was both of our really close friend Brandon Ray and he'll text me like

dude let's go drive around this on a little Lent Biscuit and the thing is You go. It's not kidding. No, he's dead serious. We'll go drive around and catch up and listen to Lund Biscuit. Who, I really did think they were interesting. Who was their guitarist?

Monkey. Wait, wasn't it? Wait, wasn't it a monkey? Yeah, they did call him monkey. Yeah. But he, I mean, so I don't know really know. They called him monkey, right? Yeah, yeah.

But he was, I remember him he looks. West Borland. West Borland. Monkey, right? Yes, it was monkey. I remember that for sure. And then Kentucky about chicken head. Who's that?

Oh, was it the bassist? Isn't that guns and roses? Maybe. You're bucket head. You're talking about bucket head. He wasn't in Limp Biscuit. But it was something interesting about them. I never was into them.

And I would be the one that would go along and say that they did kill music for that moment. Because at that time, I remember specifically the strokes were doing their thing. And Limp Biscuit and those guys, everything you meant, everything you said, POD and all those guys, were doing their thing. And I wanted the strokes to hit so hard. so they can just get rid of whatever was happening with music there. The strokes, Franz Ferdinand, all that movement. I'm like, fight, fight, fight, and get rid of all this junk.

While you and Brandon Ray were out like loving life. I remember on Napster. Whenever Fred Durst and Aaron Lewis did, it's been a while. Maybe it's been a while. No, because I'm on the outside. I'm looking. That's what it was. Fred Durst is on that?

it live on that tour. I do remember that. It was like, Fred Durs, everybody. It's great. It's great. They used Lumbeskiscus music to torture criminals. I get it.

They would, like, take these people from other countries. Is that real? Do they really do that? The tortured thing, where they play music? They often do Lent Biscuits. Okay.

Whatever. I loved it. I thought the coolest thing on MTV was when Fred Ders was listening to his own music. He was like, I love my own. music, you turned it up and drove off.

What a deuce. Yeah, yeah, I'm not arguing it's not. I mean, of all the bad bands are probably the highest for me. Maybe my scale was wrong. Maybe we should have just done a bad band scale. Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I put Smash Mouse so high. Well, then nine on the bad band. Oh, really?

On the bad band scale? I'd put them at four. I didn't mind it because there were some songs that they came out. It was pretty cool. God, they had so many. And then Monkey to me, it was really interesting. but let's see Mike pull up the Limp Biscuit playlist

okay had so many dude they had when they did the what was the cover they did it Oh behind blue eyes that's good stuff Because I dreams

They are so empty Faith Oh my gosh So they started This was their first right So they started with a cover Which is Yeah

They used to play this in TV like crazy And that one scene When it goes The whole crowd Jump out of Yes, I remember that. Angry white kids that really had nothing to be angry about.

Well, that was grunge, too. Angry white kids. Your life is good. Yes. Why are you so mad? This song was the TV. What else you got in there, Mike? You got break stuff.

Oh, yeah, break stuff with the jam. Play this one too. It's just one of them things. Of course. Rolling my way. Oh, rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling. Keep rolling. It's my way.

My way. You're the highway. Back up, back up. Tell me what you want to do now. Man, this is the jam. This still comes on. I'm like, where does this go? Where does this come up?

What stage you was into when this comes? Maybe my head. Okay, so what else? Rolling, what else? My generation. Jam. Do you know this one? No, I'm thinking.

Let me see. This is rock and roll. Okay. It's rock and roll. People that want rock and roll. It's rap people that want rap. This is a guitar. What else got?

Those are the biggest streaming ones, yeah. And then they had, Behind Blue Eyes. You know what I'm saying that originally? Yeah, the Who. Come on. Did The Who sing this one too? Is that a...

Oh, listen to that. This was good. This was good. I remember when this came out. My friend Dave in college was so into them and I was... No one knows what it's like to be the sad man.

No one knows what it's like It was cool that he wasn't screaming too Yeah, never in the song, I don't think To be the sad man I think it makes that sad and bad Behind blue eyes Monkey harmonizing And no one knows what it's like

To be hated Mm-hmm To be faded Yeah To tell you Only lie Take a bounce But my dreams

They are just empty As my conscience Seems to be All right Thank you Mike We could go down You love them That's the thing

All these bands You would love their songs privately I don't though I don't And here's another one One two three Four We got a bunch

A lot of hated bands Maybe I don't go through all of these but we can roll over something quickly. But this one is one that switched up their sound once they had a bit of hit. And it was Sugar Ray. Oh, yeah. So their deal was,

out the window. They were hard. Yeah, they were really hard. They were on tour with, I think, who we just played. What's the band we just played? Limbiscuit. Yeah, Limbiscuit.

Limbiscuit and like 3-11. That's what they were categorized as, that kind of band. Their whole first record was hardcore except for fly. Yeah. It was. Yeah. And then they had that one song, I just want to fly. Yeah.

And that song blew up. So then they were like, F this. Yeah. Take the distortion off a little bit. Let's do fun pop. Sing song. They had a good looking frontman with Mark McGrath. Yeah, who later was a host on some TV show.

I probably still is. Is he? Extra. Extra. That's how good of a band they were. No, but I like them. I really did like that. And I liked.

I liked every morning. Every morning. That's my least favorite one. Really? It was one of their biggest one. Oh, that's my favorite one. The Goo Goo Dolls and I. Why would people hate them?

I love the Goo Goo Dolls. Yeah, they're good. Loved them. Because they were so manicured. So? All the sappy songs like Iris and Slide. It's good stuff. I agree.

Oh, okay. You're not arguing with me. He had the long hair. Yeah, he was beautiful. Yeah. It's good luck. I think they hated him for that for the most part. Train

I kind of hated them I love Meet Virginia though that's the one where I liked them at the beginning and then they went really pop and I guess props to them because they really did change their music with every single time music change like they went from Meet Virginia

all the way to what's the I guess Hey Soul Sister No there's the ukulele one Well they have a new one too that came out Yeah they keep going and it sounds like Okay it fits with whatever's on the radio still He's such a good singer.

I've never thought even that they were in that group of lame bands. There you go. I love them. I have nothing to bad to say about him. I hate they made this list because I can't do it. I'm split because I love bands that have backbones. They stand for something. They stand for something.

They just change. They evolve with time, which is cool. But so do we as humans. What if people said Eddie changed over his life, he just doesn't have a backbone. But it's hard to do. Like, it's hard for bands. Aerosmith did it. You know, they were one that did it

where like they were hardcore 70s classic rock and then moved to you know, 90s kind of pop. They were, they're able to, well, they're able to do it. Not a lot of bands are able to do it. But they didn't, the fact that you can mold is kind of like your camellian,

you can just kind of do whatever, which is cool in a way, but at the same time, you stand for nothing, man. Another band. They put freaking dis, dis, are they on the list? Yeah, they'll get there. Matchbox 20. I'm not crazy.

I'm just a little on the way. I know right now you can tell. Ready? One, two, three. Love them. Yeah, love them. Great. Can't get enough. They're so good.

They put out of record now I'm listening. Of course. Yeah. Heroically vanilla pop is what this says. It was just straight. Who said that? White America Vanilla Pop. One of these articles.

Who do you and the blowfish? Come on. This is their 10 for me on the scale. They're my favorite. I love them. One of the biggest bands in my lifetime. Love them. And people hated them.

Because it was the people that really didn't want to let grunge music go. I got a bootleg one time, a Pearl Jam playing this thing with, it's called the Bridge School Festival. Bridge School, I think, Benefit concert in San Francisco. Neil Young puts it on. And a lot of bands, they're like 30 bands and they raise money for this bridge school, which is school for, I think, handicapped people. People with physical disabilities. And so Hootie comes on in this bootleg. And you can hear everyone, because this is the time where, like, people just got camcorders and recorded the show.

And you can hear everyone like, blank hooty, get off the stage. You suck hootie. Like, everyone around them. Like, dang, dude, I never knew people hated them that much. They just hated them because they blew up so much. Like, they wouldn't hate them if they were just a band playing. But because they were so massive, people, the bigger they got, the less people liked them. And so good.

In 1995, that record cracked review went 16 times platinum. them. 16 million records. It's crazy. But they couldn't catch a break because people don't want to say goodbye to grunch music. I loved them.

I still love them. My favorite. Have you seen them play? I mean now, once they came back. Back in the day, I did. Yeah, I know you did that. I had I heart festival. Oh, okay.

And they were great. But I haven't seen them like at a hooty show. I could never get out there. Maroon 5 is another one here. You know, they're like, the Maroon 5 was a super talented act that sold out. That's one of the sellout acts. They were a rock band.

And now they'll put any kind of music in there. I like their stuff. But you're right, there's really not passion for, you never get people that go, I'm the biggest Maroon 5 man. Because they stand for nothing. It's just they keep doing. But they make a lot of money.

They do make a lot of money. And props to Adam Levine. And they played the Super Bowl last year. They did. I feel like he could have just left that band and just continued Adam Levine. But to leave him Maroon 5 and keep doing what they're doing is really cool because no one knows who the band is.

Imagine Dragons. People hate Imagine. Sellouts. Is that why they hate them? Even like other rock bands hate them. Like Slubnot got into a whole thing, right, Mike? Yeah. Corey Taylor hates Imagine Dragon. He said they're worse than Nickelback, where Nickelback was the number one. Oh, bad. Yeah. And so, but people hate them because I think they're so generic, white, angry guy that lifts weights, rock. Sure. Where's little shorts.

Like bro rock. Yeah. I get that. I don't agree with it, but I get it. They make good songs. Yeah, I like all their songs. Anything you think was missed on this list? It's kind of compiled from a bunch of different stuff. No. I mean, the first ones I thought were creating Nickelback for sure. Your favorite of all those bands.

Dave Matthew's band. I go hoody. You're the least favorite of all of them. Creed? I hate her. 0.5. Hater. My least favorite.

Mostly these are all my favorite bands. This is the music I love. I still listen to. I would probably put smash mouth there. Really? Because in St. Clown Bossy was an incomplete. Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.

Did you like stained? Yeah. Oh, he was like, oh, yeah. I did. Then I got to a huge fight with Aaron Lewis recently. Well, two, three years ago. The elite singer is doing country now. And I don't have a problem with him.

I don't even know why we got into it. I don't know what you get in with anyway. I don't either anymore. I forget why I get into fights with people. I used to. I think I was on sleeping pills a lot back in the day. But he, I think it was him. He was bashing in Luke Bryan and Sam Hunt.

That's what it was in a clip. And I was like, shut up, dude. You're just only doing this. because you're trying to do country now and it's not working. Yeah. But I think that's why. I have no problem with them now.

But I'm pretty sure that's why. All right, that's the deal. Thank you. Mike Deand you want to add. I think out of all those, I like Limbiscuit now. I have to re-changed your mind. It kind of brought me back

to like trailer park days. That's all everybody listed to. I'm like, they're definitely a trailer park band. I think that's what it was. Also, Matchbox 20 shouldn't have been on there. No. Google shouldn't have been on there.

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