The Bobby Bones Show - BONUS: BobbyCast #332 - Morgan Wade on Writing Songs In Secret Her Entire Life and Never Writing Down Her Lyrics + The Success of “Wilder Days” and Her Debut Album + Working as A Tax Examiner and Finding Her First Band On Craigslist

Episode Date: June 5, 2022

In this episode of The BobbyCast: Bobby sits down with one of his favorite new artists, Morgan Wade. She made waves with her debut album “Reckless” and had a huge year in 2021. Morgan talk...s about how she didn’t start performing in front of people until she was 19, finding her first bandmates on Craigslist and performing her own songs right out of the gate. Morgan talks about the success of her first project and how it led to major label interest and how her song “Wilder Days” changed from when he first wrote it to when it was released.  Follow the podcast: @TheBobbyCast Watch this Episode on YoutubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 And Bobby and I wanted to share a recent episode of the Bobbycast that we did with new artist Morgan Wade. We love sharing new artists with you on the podcast, and she has a song on the charts right now, currently at number 27 that you would know. It's called Wilder Days. And we got to meet her on this episode to hang out with her. She has a really cool story.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It was a very raw and honest conversation of how she grew up, how she wrote her songs in secret, found her first band on Craigslist, and then the really cool way that she got a record deal, all by really staying true to herself. So if you haven't checked out Morgan, Wade's music, you really need to listen to her latest album called Reckless.
Starting point is 00:02:50 But we'll get into all that here on episode 332 of the Bobbycast. The music podcast we record every single week at Bobby's house. So if you're not subscribed to that, just search Bobbycast. Wherever you're listening to this now, hit that follow button, hit that subscribe button. So you get brand new episodes every single Friday. But right now, here's Morgan Wade. Morgan, how are you? I'm doing pretty good.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's nice to finally meet you. You as well, man. I think we've missed each other a couple times. You were coming last time, and then I didn't have a voice yesterday, so I appreciate you. I don't know if you stayed an extra day or not, but I appreciate that. I'm going to tell you that I did, even though I was already here. You already going to be here? You don't.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Do you have a plan to move here? I do. Oh, you do? Yeah. Yeah, I need to move out here. It's just kind of like figuring out where I want to live. Because I thought it was so punk rock that you didn't live out here, and you're just like, screw it. Yeah, and I've been like that for like the last two years, but now I'm like, uh, everything's, like, based out of here.
Starting point is 00:03:45 My band's here, so I'm like the outlier. Yeah, it's tough. Like, I have a couple friends, Justin Moore, because I'm from Arkansas. We grew up near the same town. Yeah. He lives in Arkansas still, and as much as that's home, it's still a pain in the butt to have to come out and work. But he also moved here, established himself, you know, and then moved out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah. No, I get that. There's no direct flights from where I am, so I have to fly, like, down to Atlanta, and then from Atlanta to here. So where do you live? Like near Bristol, Virginia. Oh, so. like Tri-City's area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah. Did you grow up watching, because I don't know anything about racing? I will just say I hated it every Sunday after church. My grandfather would watch the race, and I just never understood why it was such a big deal. And he would, like, fall asleep in his chair, and I'd, like, want to change the channel,
Starting point is 00:04:34 and he wouldn't let me. So that's, like, my memories of the NASCAR. I went out there once. I was, like, 19. They said, hey, move out here and come work at the radio station out here. and I went out there and I remember seeing a massive racetrack and that was about it.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah. And I'm from a really small town but I was like, dang, and the culture was a lot of NASCAR and a lot of racing. But as, you know, growing up in the South, I still never got into racing. You know, I was a lot of football and baseball
Starting point is 00:05:02 but never race car. Yeah, yeah, I'm not, I don't, yeah. It's not my thing. I can't sit still that long. When did you start tinkering around with music? Like at five, six, seven? Yeah, I was like, the earliest I remember like seven years old
Starting point is 00:05:14 like writing songs. Writing songs, not just listening and liking music. No, no, I remember like writing songs at like a very early age. So how did you even know that you could write a song? Because when I was seven, I didn't know you could write a song. Did you have musical people around you? No, no, not at all.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You know, my grandfather was really into bluegrass music. That's like a really big thing where I'm from, from Floyd. And so I would go with him on Friday nights up to the Floyd Country Store, and we would sit and listen to music. I fall asleep on his lap. Like, you know, that was like every Friday for me. But yeah, and then he was really into the fiddle. So he like, I want you, you should play the fiddle.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And so it took me to lessons and it was in, it was classical violin and I hated it. Yeah, your role drives when you said they took me to lessons. Yeah, I hated it so bad. I did that for like two years. I didn't want to do it. I wanted to play the guitar. And the teacher told my mom, she's like, no,
Starting point is 00:06:11 if she won't stick with this, she won't play guitar. My mom listened to her and was like, no. And then, of course, my grandma went and bought me a guitar. So how old were you when you got a guitar? Maybe like 10 or 11, something like that. But you had already started writing songs, at least, sort of preliminary. Yeah, I mean, and that was my big things. I wanted the guitar because I wanted to put, you know, instrumentation to that, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:33 What kind of music did you like? I know you said you were influenced by Bluegrass because your grandfather, but what kind of music were you listening to? Or when did you first find your type of music? So I was in like first grade and I discovered Elvis and that was like all I wanted to listen to. I was obsessed with Elvis. I drove my mom insane. Where did they have Elvis like records or CDs in the house? We lived with my grandparents and I came home one day and there was like a VHS of Jail House Rock sitting on the table.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I asked my mom, like, can I watch it? She's like it's in black and white. You're not going to like it. I watched it like five times that afternoon. And then, you know, she broke the news to me. Elvis is not alive. Like, you know, that whole thing. You went through it all. You discovered him, and he died the same day. Yeah, it was a very tough day for me. But I was just obsessed with him after that. I mean, you know, it is Elvis.
Starting point is 00:07:23 He was very electrifying. But he was so different. You know, I'd never heard anything like that. And so I just really connected with that. You know, it's interesting, too, the thing about Elvis. And, again, me growing up in the South, you're, you consider Virginia the South, right? I do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I guess it depends on who you talk to in what part of Virginia. Because if we're, if I'm 12, and we're in northern Virginia, they don't consider that to South. Yeah. That's like D.C. Right, right. So, but Elvis being from the South, being from Mississippi, then Memphis, was both country, pop, rock, gospel. He kind of was the first major crossover artist that existed because what he did was so different
Starting point is 00:08:03 than everyone else. Yeah, yeah. And you were drawn to that because of a singing, because of the total, the dancing, the singing. Like, what about Elvis? Elvis kind of struck you? I mean, obviously first, like, the singing, but I mean, he was just an electrifying dude. You know, with everything he did was different. And then, of course, you know, I should have known early on.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I get very obsessed and addicted to certain things. And so I was very obsessed with Elvis. And so I engrossed myself in, like, everything, you know, reading books and whatever. And so just hearing, like, the documentaries and stuff about, you know, everything he went through him, just being different. But he just, like, stayed true to that. Like, he didn't care. What about, like, your teenage...
Starting point is 00:08:40 years. Like, when did you find current music that spoke to you? Yeah, I mean, I think when I really started to find music that stuck with me was when Casey Musgraves first, like, Father of Your Arrow came out. And I, like, heard that. And I was like, wow, that's, that's really different. I haven't really heard anything like that. And of course, like, with Miranda, you know, I remember the kerosene music video coming out, and I ripped holes in all of my jeans. And I got a lot of trouble for that. I remember my grandma threw my pants away. She was like, what did you do this? for but i was just like so obsessed with her because you know just these these women that just like speak their mind and so that's where i really started to towards to you know gravitate towards
Starting point is 00:09:19 that kind of music in the house that you grew up in you know were you raised to speak up and speak your mind or were you raised to you know just bide your time find your place yeah you know it's i was such a quiet kid it was like it i say that i was quiet but it was also not quiet it just depended on the moment. I don't really feel like I grew up in a house where we, you know, really spoke our minds very often. My parents divorced when I was like five. And so it's been a lot of time at my grandparents' house, which, you know, felt like the safest place for me back then. But my grandma really let me just be whoever I wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You know, saying my grandmother adopted me for a while. But your grandmother being such a strong influence on you, what was she like as a woman? Yeah, she, you know, she. gave me some really good advice one time and it was just, I was just so upset, you know, about different things. And I remember she was just like, don't try to be like anybody else. Don't put, you know, all of your happiness in one person. I'll never forget that.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I was in her front yard. It was probably like, you know, 11 or 12. And she's like, just stop putting everything into other people. Like, you know, you've got to have that inside of yourself. And so she was always very just supportive of me being me. I have like a really fond memory. We couldn't figure out. She got really sick.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And I remember she had double vision. And we couldn't figure it out. And I had guitar lessons. And she put a patch over her eye so she could drive me to guitar lessons that day. You know, it was just stuff like that that was like really important to her. Wow. I sound like she sacrificed a lot. She did.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. Was she like a mom to you? Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah, I did. My grandma was like my best friend there. for, you know, like a really long time. So was she in on your decision to pursue music?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Because it sounds like she was influencing it a bit. She was influencing it. She passed away not actually not long after that. I think I was 13 when she finally passed away. We found out she actually had pancreatic cancer the whole time. You know, she'd been going through all that. But I just, we would always ride around and listen to music. It was funny because she grew up in a different generation.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So it was funny sometimes the songs that would be on the radio. Like, I really, I really don't like that song. Not a fan of that song. But she would, you know, let me listen to whatever, and we would ride around in the car. And then, but even my other, my other grandmother was big into music. As far as, like, listening to old records and CDs and stuff like that was her. And she comes out to all my shows now, and so she's been very supportive.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So it's been very fortunate. But it was something that I kind of kept to myself. Like, I played instruments and stuff, but I didn't sing for anything. anybody. Where would you play, though, like, at the house, or were you playing? Yeah, it was just it. I remember just being, like, such a secret, and I'm still not entirely sure why it was such a secret, but I would write and, like, singing stuff until I'd see, you know, one of my parents come home and I'd put it away. It's like, I didn't want anybody to hear me. Um, why do you think that is? Like, deep down, why do you think that is? I was told one, there was a, there was a singing
Starting point is 00:12:30 group at school, and I was the only kid that didn't make it. And I was told my voice was weird, and that just stuck with me. It's like, all right, no more. No more. No more. I'm not doing that. And I was sensitive, very sensitive. I mean, you're young like that and you get told that. And so I was like, all right, you know, it's just for me, which I think benefited me the most because I enjoy doing it. So I kept doing it. But, you know, you can be really honest with yourself. If you're not, you know, out there trying to impress anybody, it was just something I did to, like, cope. And so that's how I write now. You know, it's the only way I know to write. It's funny you talk about someone telling you your voice was weird, at least what you said.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Was it a teacher that told your voice was weird? No, it was a student. It was like, it's funny because a lot of them are so proud of me. Oh, they're your best friends now, or your cousins? Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, we want to come out to your shows and stuff like that. Yeah, they hit you up on social media. Like, yeah, I miss you, haven't seen you forever. How's it been?
Starting point is 00:13:30 I heard you on the radio. Yeah, but, you know, like I said, like I don't think I'd be, I wouldn't write like I do if I didn't have that stuff going on, like, early in my life. I think that that kind of pushed me. Well, if you're hiding the fact that you're singing, what you were doing early on, when did you, and why did you decide to do it publicly? Yeah, so I was dating a guy and my freshman year of college, and we broke up, and, you know, he played music in a band, and I was like, you know, it would really tick me off if I broke up with somebody. and they wrote a song about it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And so I got on Craigslist, because that's what you do where I grew up. It was like, you want something, you get on Craigslist. And here's what's funny is, like, I remember being, like, 13 years old, and I had, like, selling stuff on Craigslist. And I look back and I'm like, that was really not safe. But I remember, like, selling a futon on Craigslist. But how would you sell that?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Would you have people come to your house? Like, adult people. Yes. Like, I'm just out there putting my address out there. I look back and I'm like, okay. So, yeah, my immediate response is like, all right, I'm going to get on Craigslist. And I found a group of guys that needed a singer. And so I got two of my friends that were like five foot two.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And we, you know, the little trio went down there to this random house and down into the basement with a bunch of men. Yeah. So you were how old? I was 19. And they were how old? They were all in their like 30s, 40s. And you walk in and you are a petite 19-year-old woman. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And were they looking for that? Or were they looking for another big dude? No, I think they were just kind of like, okay. I don't think they really expected. Yeah. But, hey, you know, they were like, they were super nice, fortunately. Like, really good group of guys. But, yeah, not my brightest moment.
Starting point is 00:15:30 What was that band? Or were they a band? Like they have a name? No, we didn't have a name, but it was just like, we just started kind of playing. I think I only played like one or two shows with that. With that group, and then it kind of merged into something else. And I kept the bass player, he stuck with me for years. I still talk to, talk to him now and again.
Starting point is 00:15:55 What did you guys play? Were you doing covers? No, no, it was all my songs. Wow, so you took your music in and they learned it. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I've never been, like, big on playing covers.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's just, it's always, I've always, I've written so many songs. I'm like, why would I play everybody else's songs when I'm my own? Yeah, I get it. But to go from not singing at all to walking room going, I'm now going to sing, and all you older men are going to sing all my songs. I was on a mission. I was on a mission to, you know, to get that song out there. When you decide that you want to sing, what was your career plan at that point?
Starting point is 00:16:31 because you were in school. Yeah, so I wanted to be, I wanted to go into cardio, thoracics. That was what I was doing. Help me out. Heart? Heart, yeah, heart doctor. And so that was on like the pre-med track. And then it was just like I kind of was like, oh, this music thing, I'm going to not like
Starting point is 00:16:51 keep this a secret anymore. And so I casually one day just told my mom's like, hey, I'm going to play a show. What are you talking about? You're going to play a show. and then it was just kind of like, yeah, I play music, and she's just like, what? You know, it kind of came out of nowhere, but then, you know, they started coming out. My parents kind of were like, okay, but to me it wasn't like, all right, I'm going to just go quit school. You know, I continued with school, but music kind of started to overtake that.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I ended up, I still graduated with a bachelor's. Obviously, I'm not a doctor right now, so. shocking, I know. But, yeah, it just, like, it all worked out how it was supposed to, obviously. You stayed in school. Was it because you knew how tough it is to work in a creative field and you needed a backup plan? Or did you ever make a promise to yourself? Or why?
Starting point is 00:17:49 You know, I think about that often. I'm not entirely sure why I stayed, but, you know, I felt like, okay, I just all of a sudden started doing this. I just all of a sudden started publicly playing music. So I continued to actually worked a job at the gym all throughout college. I had to be up at 3.30 a.m. every morning. To do what at the gym? Open to the gym. Every morning I'd go down there and open the gym.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And I did that for, well, I did that even after I graduated. So I did it for like five years. You woke up at 3.30? Yeah. I mean, I say that as someone who also wakes up at that time, but I hate it. I've been doing it since I was 22 now. Yeah. It sucks every day for me.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. I don't know if it sucked every day for you. It did. It did. I hate it. And, of course, at the time, you know, I started drinking. When I started playing music, I started drinking. And so I don't know how many times I went in there with, you know, an hour of sleep.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You know, I lived, part of the time I lived really close to the gym. And so I was just kind of like stumble in there. But no idea how I pulled that off. for so long. I don't miss getting up that early. I get up early. I'm like a 5 a.m. Still? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like to go to bed early, you know, get up early. I don't know. I'm just I'm basically 97 years old. I mean, I'm a forced 97. I would stay up until 4 a.m. and wake up at noon, but I can't do that because of my job. So talk to me for a second because you're 19, you start playing these shows, and you had kind of suppressed that muscle, that singing, that.
Starting point is 00:19:29 that, you know, public performance muscle for a long time, but you're doing it. Was it like an aha? Like, oh, man, I love this, or was it a gradual thing? No, I immediately, that was one thing. It was like, in college, like public speaking or anything like that hated it. It was terrified. But it was like immediately, as soon as I got on the stage, I was fine, you know, as far as singing goes. Because I just felt like it was something that I was always supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And I feel like I kind of just, like, jumped on in. And because I would, you know, at the beginning, I mean, I look back at some of these shows I played, and you can't even call it a show. I don't even know what it was. But I took every opportunity that I could take. You know, I wanted it to work, and I enjoyed it. Any thought of quitting school and pursuing that full-time? Or were you, did you know you were going to finish?
Starting point is 00:20:18 No, I thought about it. There were a few times that I was like, you know, I don't want to do this. I don't want to be here. But, you know, obviously, too, like your parents, like, Like, I look back and, you know, if I had a kid, I probably would have said the same thing. Like, well, this came out of nowhere. Like, why do you want to just quit school? But, you know, even my friends and stuff, we're like, why would you quit?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Like, you need to go to college. Which now I have such a different perspective on that than what I did. Because I'm like, when I have kids, like, okay, you don't want to go to college, don't go to college, don't waste your money on something. I don't even know where my degree is at. It's something I should have framed. You may not have the paper, but it's all. I'm really glad, you know, that I did go. I look back now.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I think that I'm much more mature. I do a lot better in school if I went to school now. I wasn't prepared then. You know, you're 19 and you just, you know, go try to be an adult. You're not. I'm still not an adult, but. Where were you playing? You know, you're talking about the first band, but were you playing with different groups?
Starting point is 00:21:18 What kind of bars or clubs were you playing? Yeah, we were playing bars. I mean, man, I was like breweries and bars and restaurants and stuff and anything. Like literally anything that I could get, you know, to play, I would do it. And, you know, it's, oh, God. I mean, I just look back. I just think it, you know, you were background music a lot of times, but it was just, I was so happy to be there.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And I like to remind myself of that. Can you think of shows where maybe there were more people on stage than there were in the audience? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember this one specific show. And they had us. come play and you know when you start booking that stuff like I look back you know now I play a nice solid you know hour whatever hour and a half at max and I remember booking this one show was like three and a half hours not a soul there they made us play that whole time and of course the guys
Starting point is 00:22:19 they were all like older guys so they were like used to playing to like nobody so to them they're like well it's three and a half hour practice here you know we're just going to drink our beer and just, you know, play along. Those were the nights that you leave there thinking, why the hell am I doing this? You know, like, this is stupid. And I think that's part of the reason why I was like, all right, I'm going to stay in college,
Starting point is 00:22:41 because I don't know that this is going to work out. It almost feels like a movie when no one's in the theater, but they run it anyway in case someone happens to come in. Right. Like, they wanted you to keep playing in case someone does happen to stumble in. I'm like, man, there was no one in there. Nobody. I will never forget that night
Starting point is 00:22:59 because I remember at one point I just stopped singing and I was just that they're playing my guitar and we just kind of stood there It's like the same song We just kept running it and running out of me And nobody knows the difference If there's nobody there
Starting point is 00:23:11 There was no one there except the bartender And she wasn't, you know Well she wasn't doing anything either I watched her watch too Yeah exactly Absolutely Okay so at this point You're still living in Virginia
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah You're still, have you ever moved out of Virginia Or have you lived there the whole time? No, I've lived there the whole time Like I moved, you know, I grew up in Floyd and then I moved to Roanoke, which is where I went to college. And then, you know, I moved out towards the Tri-Cities area. I've lived there for a couple years. In your hometown are people now that already know you, are they starting to look at you a little different?
Starting point is 00:23:45 Because, you know, you are popping up on the radio. You are popping up on, are they like, maybe people being nicer to you? Or people you don't know coming up and being like, hey, can't get a picture? Is that happening? Yeah. I went home. And I told my grandma, I was like, when I come to see you, we just, like, I just want to come to your house and, like, hang out. Because it was a small town.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And last time I was there, I went out to eat. And, you know, they, they, if I'm stuffing my face with food, like, last thing I want to do is, you know, and I appreciate it. Because it is really great. But it was a little, it was a little bizarre. It's a little weird, you know, to go back there and have that. But, you know, I think my dad gets it a lot, too, you know, meeting people, you know, that. that know who I am. And to him, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You're also kind of hard to miss. Just because the tattoos. Like, even if you're fully covered, your hands are still exposed. I would have to wear, like, medical gloves. Like, you have to show up in mittens and, like, a big furry hat. Right. And even then you would. And then I'm going to stick out even more.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Then you're going to stick out in a different way. Yeah, yeah, it's just not. It is cool. I mean, it's interesting. I mean, I've been in the airport all over, and I've started to have a lot of people recognize me there. So. I want to talk about your voice as a songwriter, because. I think you said it, you started writing songs,
Starting point is 00:24:59 and you started writing them from a different perspective, your perspective. You started writing them so young, too. I mean, when did you first start to feel that voice, not singing voice, but that voice have an opinion or a perspective? I mean, I remember, I was like, I don't know, I had to be like nine or ten, and my dad was going through a separation, and I was writing about that,
Starting point is 00:25:25 just from his perspective in which I look back. Nine or ten years old? Yeah, and I looked back and I went, man, you were a sad, sad kid. I looked back and it was very like, you know, I've always written just from whatever's going around, you know, whatever I'm around, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:41 whatever I'm experiencing. Like, that's just, that was just my outlet. Did you keep any of that stuff? Do you have from a kid? So that was another thing. I didn't write stuff down because I didn't want anybody to read it. So if I would write stuff down sometimes, but I would hide it.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And my grandmother claims she finds stuff in, like, cookbooks and stuff, stashed around her house. I don't believe her. I think she's making it up so she can sell something one day on eBay. I think she's planning that story now, so she'll have something. But I just didn't write stuff down because I didn't want anybody to find it. So I will memorize stuff. And until I came out here to Nashville, and we were in the studio, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:19 Sattler Baden, my producer, he was just like, you need to write this stuff that, like, type it out because we have to be able to, like, see it, but I would just memorize it. If it was something that was going to stick, it would just stick in my head. So you go to these guys with all these songs you'd written. Now we're going to go back to the basement or wherever you went to this room with these 40-year-old guys. What were those songs about as a 19-year-old? Like when you look back at, you know, if you were to paint brush that with a broad stroke, what was that collection of music about? Yeah, I think most of it was just, especially the early days, was definitely heartbreak, which I don't think I've
Starting point is 00:26:53 Steered too far from that, but, you know, heartbreak and starting to drink and, like, experience, experience different stuff, but mainly heartbreak. I think that's all I've seen to really know how to write about. Did you ever, because sometimes I'll do this with comedy where I feel like I'm so, I'm extremely vulnerable and I'm exposing myself and I'm right up on the edge of going, man, this is too much. Like, I'm on the edge. I never actually feel like I get to where it's too much, oddly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 But I feel like I'm on the edge a lot. Do you ever feel like you're that way with lyrics or when you're writing a song? Yeah, for sure. Because people ask all the time, they're like, you know, do you ever start to say something? You're like, I shouldn't. And I'm like, yeah, I think so. But then it's like after it's out there, you look back and you're like, I wasn't really anything to me. I think that, and I think that's good, too, because you never, like you said, you never reached that spot.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But I think it's good to push the envelope. When did someone come to you, someone that had any sort of prominence in, I won't say Nashville, but in music. who came to you and said, wow, you're different. Not that you sound different or you look different, but you're different, that you're actually pretty good and you have a perspective, a voice,
Starting point is 00:28:01 and kind of gave you confidence that you could make this. Yeah, you know, I would have to say, like, so I played a festival, and when I got done with my set, Jason Isbell and the 400 unit were playing later that night, and Jason's sound engineer came up. And he was like, hey, I had no idea he was. He introduced himself,
Starting point is 00:28:21 and he's like, I think the guys would really like to hear you music. And he's like, he's really good, you know, like, I really enjoyed your set. And I didn't expect to hear anything, you know, I was like, okay, yeah, I appreciate that. And then, like, a day later, Sadler hit me up on Instagram. He was like, hey, love your voice. Like, I've looked up your music. You know, what do you have going on? Like, we should chat.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Like, we'd love to write with you and just talk. And so, like, two days later, we hopped on a, on a FaceTime. and he was like, you know, play me some of your stuff. You know, he was like, you know, I want to get into producing. Do you have a producer? He's like, I would love to, like, collaborate with you. And so I pitched him the idea of Wilder Days. I sat down, that's the first song ever played him.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And it just went from there. It was so, like, organic. You know, he didn't want anything from me. And so I came out to Nashville, and we just clicked. And his thing was just, I don't want any, money. I know you don't have any money. Like, let's just work together. We'll work here at my house. Let's write some songs. And we started recording demos. And, you know, before I met him, I didn't have a booking agent or manager or anything. And so that all just started to fall into
Starting point is 00:29:38 place because the demos kind of started circulating around. When you say you came to Nashville, what does that mean? Obviously, you get in a car or you, I got in a car and I drove here. You drove here. Do you like get a hotel room? Do you find out, like what, how long do you stay? Yeah, I came out there. I think the first time I met with Sadler, I came out here, and I was out here for a couple days, something like that. You just got a hotel.
Starting point is 00:30:00 You just cram rights in. Like, you're here, morning starts, you're riding until you go to bed. Yeah, yeah, I like, and I've enjoyed that because it's like, I mean, I've been doing stuff all day. It's like, okay, she's out here right now. We have to get all this stuff done, so versus, you know, me living out here, and they've been like, hey, we need you to come here at Tuesday at 2, and Thursday at 4, you know, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 They have to get it done in X amount of time and then leave me alone. You know, there are so many stories about new artists, either coming to town or being in town and having someone take advantage of them, money, hey, I'm promising you this and they don't get it. But you come and you spend the first couple days here. Did you feel like it was legit? Like, wow, like this may not turn into anything massive, but what was coming from him was sincere?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, Sadler's like the nicest person ever. And he just, I could tell he just believed in it. He was just like really excited. And I didn't feel any pressure to do anything other than just, you know, throw ideas around with him and make some music that he believed in. You go back home. And how long until you start to get these things back emailed you or texted you?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like, hey, check it out, listen to this. Sadler, that's the thing about him. He will work on something. all night until it's done. And typically, I'll have a rough of something within a few hours. Did you hear a slightly different version of you because now you had somebody pretty good working on your stuff? Like, did you hear you in a way you hadn't heard yet?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Yeah. Oh, for sure, because it was, you know, even though it was just, you know, a rough demo at his house, it was still more professional than anything I had ever had done. and I didn't know how to do that. I didn't grow up around those resources or anything. So hearing something you've worked on, like actually recorded, actually sent to you like that.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And, yeah, it was incredible. When did those dreams start to happen? Well, I could actually be a music star. So at the time, I was actually working a job in tax reassessment. Like, what kind of taxes? So basically I worked for this company, and they would bid on towns that, like, and you would go around and assess the properties
Starting point is 00:32:25 if they, you know, built anything. You had to make note of that, basically to be taxed on it, you know, for real estate purposes. No one likes that. And no one likes the little tattooed girl showing up on their porch either. I had the cops called multiple times.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It was, but I only had to work Monday through, like, Thursday. And it was full time. And so I had like Thursday night, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I could go play shows. And I could take a hit, you know, not making any money and try to like get my foot in the door in all these different places. But yet not be broke. But Sadler finally sat me down. He was like, listen, you know, you got to go all in.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You got to choose one or the other because you're kind of starting to get at this point where you got to dedicate more to the music if that's what you really want to do. and he was right. And so I think driving back home, I called my boss and was like, hey, I'm going to give you my, I'll finish out this job, and then that's it. I'm done. They weren't upset because I was horrible at that job. It was, it was pretty bad. Also, of all the jobs that maybe you look like you would do, tax assessor, I think would be, I don't know, 5,600 on the list.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. Yeah, it was, I liked it because, like. It's just a tattoo, it's all it is. Yeah. No, and it was, it was, but it was funny because you see a lot of stuff, you know, a lot of interesting people just, and people would assume, too, I don't know how many times I had people be like thinking I was like selling like cookies or something. I was like, I am not a girl scout, not a girl scout. When did, what was the label process for you like? Did multiple labels say, hey, or did one just dial in and go, we want you to be on our label, let's go? Yeah, so, like, Sather and I set out to just make an EP. And so we recorded like five songs.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And then that's when a couple different labels started kind of, you know, sniffing around. And we took some meetings. The first meeting I took was with 30 Tigers. And David Macias was great. And he was like, I love it, you know. But you should go around, take the other meetings, see if you like them better. You know, he was like, but regardless, you. you'll have a home here if you want it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Like, we believe in what you're doing. But he was like, you need to make an LP, not an EP. Like, you've got the songs. So I met with a couple other places, and they just wanted to change everything. They didn't want, they were like, oh, we love what you're doing, but we want to change all of it. And I'm like, well, this works. Sonically, like, they want to change you. They just wanted to, like, re-record everything.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I don't know how many places they were like, we should just do an acoustic album. And I was like, that's really boring. That's going to get really boring really quickly. And so I went with 30 Tigers, and then, you know, Reckless came out last March. It wasn't even a month later. Every label in Nashville was emailing my manager, like, hey, we want to talk. A lot of which wanted to talk beforehand, and it was like, really? Okay, you wanted to change everything, and now you're like, I love it.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But Sony music stuck out the most. You know, I took a meeting with them, and I really made them work for it. Poor Randy Goodman over there at Sunny. I really made that poor guy. Like, he was like, I didn't know for like the first four meetings if you liked me. He was like, we met and you kept your sunglasses on the whole time. I was like, it was bright outside, dude. That's, he claims I did it to, like, freak him out.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But the thing that stuck out with them is, I was, I finally, I was just like, what do you want to change? What do you want to do? I was like, if I stay at 30 tigers, I was like, what can you give me they can't? I was like, because I own all my stuff. I'm making really good. I'm doing good. I'm doing the best I've ever done. I was like, what can you guys do?
Starting point is 00:36:23 Like, why would I come to you? And, you know, essentially, Randy's like, we don't want to change anything. We love this record. Like, we just want to re-release it. We won't change a single thing. And it was like, we'll just give you that platform and that push that a major label can give you and more opportunities. And it just, it ended up being the right move.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And I've been really happy. But they didn't want to change a darn thing. Yeah, I love the music. I mean, and I'm so jaded. I'm just around everything all the time. But, you know, the record is so good. And I like to think that I like albums. But I'm becoming more ADD
Starting point is 00:37:03 the longer I have the option to become ADD. Honestly, it's, I'm like, oh, I'm a big album guy. But then it's like, if I don't love, love the artist, I'll just check out a few songs, skip over a couple. So I find myself being a huge hypocrite and going, eh. That being said, like, your entire project is A plus. And I haven't said that about anything. And probably maybe Old Dominion, but other than that,
Starting point is 00:37:29 and like a couple Casey records ago, like, it's as good as anything I've heard in years. Thank you. Like, just love it. And, I mean, from the beginning. And Wilder days is the first song on the record, right? Yeah, yeah. track one and it's the first one you wrote. Why I put that one up front?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Was it because you wrote it first? I think we just really, I think it's important, especially to, like, anybody goes, a record comes out and you click on that first song right there. You want to hook them, man. Like, don't just put some kind of weird something on there. Like, I wanted to put the best foot forward. And Sadler did, too. And I think it made sense.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It was the song that we based the whole album around. It was the first one. And to me, I think that's. really important. You get that real core piece of that record and then you're like, okay, this is the direction I want to take it. And so it made, it made sense to put it first. Let me play a clip of Wilder Days. Here you go. So let's talk about this song specifically. Where did you write it? Who'd you write it with? So I'd actually wrote kind of a version of Wilder days myself. And I, and that's what I'd pitch to Sadler. And he's like, all right, this is,
Starting point is 00:38:46 this is great, obviously needed to change some things up. And so we kind of sat down and like I said, I had to draft it out. But we made a lot of changes. And I'm so glad we did. I found the old version of it that I had written one day and I listened to it. And I was like, dear God, I would never want anybody to hear this version of it. But we, we sat down and really, he helped me too as a writer. You know, I'd never co-written with anybody.
Starting point is 00:39:14 and so he really helped kind of push me to dig a little deeper and be more honest and authentic with it. And so we, God, we worked on that song. I'll never forget there's just like parts of it, like the Wilder Days, just singing Wilder Days. I stood in front of that microphone for a solid 45 minutes singing that one line over and over and over. And I was like, I never want to hear the song again.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Which part? Oh, I wish I did. and you're wilder days like that that part of it he made me and he was in his kitchen fretting chicken for tacos and he would be like yeah you can keep going i think you and i could see that part of my sleep now i hated it but he i remember we finally finished that song up it was like 11 p.m and i was like all right i'm going to go bed he's like no no no we're going to go to jenny's ice cream and we're going to listen to this so we go and we get in his honda element and he is blasting wilder days as long as he or as loud as he possibly can on our way to get Jenny's ice cream at like 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:40:18 But he was so excited, and that's how I was like, man, this man believes in me more than, you know, anybody else. Your version wasn't melodically the same, or did you change lyrics? Yeah, we changed lyrics. And it made more sense and flows better. You know, I, there for a long time didn't, like, I didn't have the bridge or any of that in there. But then, of course, Sadler is a guitar god. So, you know, he really came in with the riffs and kind of helping me mix things up to where it wasn't just so repetitive the whole song.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Is all of the information in the song true? Chicago, is that a real reference? Yeah. Or did you just rhyme words? No, they were all real references. Yeah. And does the person that the song is about, this is the question you'll get asked 10,000 times,
Starting point is 00:41:03 do they know it's about them? Yeah, for sure, 100%. Yeah. And have they reached out? No. Okay. No. No.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And if that person hears this, I'm, you know, it's all good. It's all good now, you know, young and dumb and times were different than, but. Was this the person at 19, the same person? No. No. Matches and metaphors, track number two. And I'm not going in order for any reason other than, like when I listen to these songs, when I was listening, because I've listened to the record 100 times at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I think it's the only album I have saved right now on my entire Spotify, to be honest with you. And so this is maybe my second favorite song. Now was this song that you, a new, new song you wrote for this? Or did you have a version of it already as well? No, this one, this one just wrote straight through. I had basically the verses in the chorus down and then Southern kind of helped me add the bridge in there.
Starting point is 00:42:15 That was one thing before I met Satherer. I wasn't putting any bridges or anything in my songs. So they were pretty straightforward and repetitive. And he kind of helped me there get into adding some more dynamic to these songs. But we wrote that. I had that one. I actually stayed up all night one night. I drank way too much coffee that day.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And I remember I sat up and it was pouring rain at my house. And I didn't have the internet or anything where I was staying at the time it wasn't working and I just set up and I wrote that song. Do you write lyrics first? Do you write a melody first? Do you have an idea? Like, what is it for you? Weirdly enough, I hear the words in my head. I hear them in a melody. So like when I write a phrase out, that's how I hear it in my head.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And so I try to just figure out that on guitar. Okay, you did your hands like you're playing keys. I don't know why, yeah. I'm confused at your process. That's a weird guitar. That's a very weird guitar. Yeah, I don't know why I did that, but yeah, I meant like that. I promise to know how to play guitar. Confusing a bit, at least at first when I had heard of you, the Morgan W. Morgan Wall and Morgan Wade.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah. I think I was typing in your name and Morgan Wals. I don't know, it was just, do people often not confuse you too, but do they ever call you Morgan Wallen on accident because it's just in their head? I've been tagged and stuff. Yeah, I guess that would be. And then they're like, oops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You know, yeah, that kind of thing. W.A. It's both. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was he already on the scene when you were here and starting? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 No talk of changing Morgan Wade to like Morgan Bade or something. No, no. No one came up with that. No. No. There's also a pro-BMXer, Morgan Wade. Yes, and it is funny because. his friends and fans and stuff will tag him and stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And they'll be like, dude, what the hell? You know, we thought you were right, you know, making jokes. And I've actually messaged him about it before. I was watching on, maybe it was last night or the night before. You were doing a live TikTok. Last night? Mm-hmm. That was last night, right?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah, yeah. And you're playing. Are you reading the comments as you're on there? Or are you just... I can't because I read a couple comments and they made me want to laugh. And so it kind of like messes me up. And I'm like, but it's, I've never, I've never done the TikTok. I've never really been on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And so my team was like, we need, you need to like do a TikTok live, you know. And so they kind of help me set that up. And, yeah, I try not to read the comments too much. I don't read the comments to anything. I think people like you, though. That's the difference in you and me. People have a lot of opinions about me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And they go all different directions, not all good. I think people like you. I think yours would be pretty positive. I do want to play reckless. Here is some are reckless. So you wrote every song on this, which I would have expected, especially since you said you just write songs all the time. What's the oldest song on this new project?
Starting point is 00:45:51 The oldest song would be MEND. And that's the first song that Sadler had like looked up of mine and heard. and he was like, you really need to put MEND on there. It was one of his favorite songs, and it almost didn't make it because I was just so tired of it. I was like, I don't want to. You know, you always want to put your new songs out. It's shiny.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It's like fun. Right, exactly. And he just really loved that song so much. And I'm glad we put it on there. But that's the oldest song. Have you done any sort of radio tour yet where you go to radio stations? Have you done that at all? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean, It's been kind of weird with COVID, you know, so there's a lot of different protocols, and a lot of people are, you know, still working from home and stuff like that. Does everyone go straight to the tattoos first? Most of the time, yeah. They're like, oh, hey, what's up with the tattoos? Who's up with the tattoos?
Starting point is 00:46:48 Yep. And so what is your stock answer when someone goes, oh, what's up with the tattoos? Yeah, a lot of times I'm just like, oh, I forgot I had tattoos. You know, I just say something like, and then they're just like, okay, this girl's. When did, because you mentioned earlier, and I've held on to it because I'm the same way, I get addicted to things quickly and hard. When did the tattoo things start and was it all at once? Or did you just kind of just mess around with it a little bit? No, no.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Also, my freshman year of college. I remember I was sitting in my, like, apartment. And one of my friends was there, and she was just like, I think you would like tattoos. I don't know why she said that. And I was like, I should do that. I think I had $90 in my bank account. And I went and I got a tattoo. And then I was just like, okay, I really like this.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And I think a few weeks later, I went and got like three more at one time. A few weeks later? Yeah. I got paid between that, I guess. With the goal of covering, is the goal now to cover your whole body? No, I don't really know what my goal is anymore. I'm going to be honest with you. the, you know, getting tattoos at 19 and then getting tattoos now at 27.
Starting point is 00:48:04 The pain is a lot different. I swear it hurts more now. And maybe it's just because I've ran out of all the easy spots. I used to say, oh, I'm just going to get like one. I have one on the inside of my arm. I was like, that's it. And, you know, it was like, I won't go past here. And I promise my mom wouldn't go past here.
Starting point is 00:48:21 And then here we are and I have my throat tattooed. And literally. Boy, the throat's hardcore. I'll tell you. Yeah. I'm going to be honest. with you, it really was not, it wasn't, it wasn't bad. My chest is not filled in because that hurts so bad. I felt that in my throat. I didn't feel my throat at all. So your chest, you felt? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:39 in my throat. But the throat, you didn't feel in your throat. No. No. No. I felt that in like your knee or what? I didn't feel it. The throat really wasn't that bad. I mean, I would like to relate. I've got like four or five, but the only thing that hurt me was up near this crease of the arm. Yeah. But that's like, I'm like a second grader. Being like, look at my bull. I'm like, look at my boo-boo. And you're like a college graduate, like, that's nothing, kid. No, no, I complain, like, the whole time. But, yeah, my mom used to be kind of, like, please don't. But, I mean, the other day, she's like, when did you get that clover on your hand? I was like, oh, coach, she's like, that's really cute. I'm just like, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:49:16 It does, in a way, not that you need it, but especially whenever you're being introduced. It does legitimize you as, like, I'm an artist. Like, really. Regardless of how you feel about me or if you like my music, like I'm an artist. I'm not a prepared little PR singer. Yeah. Like you are a legitimate artist before you even hear you sing because visually you go, well, this girl is enough round. Yeah. And you know that, right?
Starting point is 00:49:48 Like, you know it. You know that it's like people believe you because it's almost like you have the story written on you. Yeah. Like people know I'm a nerd because of my glasses. I wear glasses because I need them But they're part of the story, right? I have big dark grim glasses And they're like, that guy's a nerd
Starting point is 00:50:04 And he's probably pretty smart And he probably got pounded as a kid And that's why it's kind of funny. Like you can tell just boop glasses, here I am. Same thing with you. Like I look at you, I haven't met you before now. I've been a big fan, but I haven't met you until now. And I go, one, she's hardcore
Starting point is 00:50:18 About whatever she's involved in Because she's committed to these tattoos So she feels. And then two, like I wouldn't mess with you. Like, I feel like you would shank me That's what I feel like that would happen too. Like that's, I wouldn't cross you because you can take the punishment of a needle and a tattoo over and over a man. I mean, am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:50:36 I pass out when I get my blood drawn. Okay, I don't need to, you don't need to kill what I feel on top you are. I'm just, I'm just being honest here. We've talked about honesty. I'm honest. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm glad you see it that way. A lot of people are just like, she's just got so many different ones. She can't make her mind up.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Okay. You know what? I never thought about it like that. You thought about it in a positive way. I thought about it in a way of you have committed to who you are. Yeah, I like that way better. But is it, now she's running a second one?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Is it because you couldn't? She's like, it's actually because I couldn't. No, I really, I really did. And I had this conversation with somebody just about how, you know, I am tired of just like listening to what everybody else wants me to do. And I'm like, you know, it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:51:26 because at the end of the day, those people, they have to live with their choices. I have to live with mine. And I'm not going to go not do something because I'm afraid of what, you know. I remember when I got my hands tattooed, I had somebody look at me and they were like, well, I hope the music thing pans out because you're not going to be able to do anything else. And I'm like, okay, I'm not going to worry about that. But I'm not going to get my hands tattoo because I might not be able to do this music thing.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And the hands are hardcore. They're hardcore. I'm glad I got those done a long time ago because they hurt. What do we see? Hold on up. Rock, rock roll, rock and roll. What's on the underside of that? Stay true. They're like old sailor tattoos.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Ever had a, you know, ever wanted to sail? Ever thought about getting on the old ship? You could do that. If music didn't work out with all your tattoos? That's true. I could be a sailor. You could be a sailor.
Starting point is 00:52:16 What else are you passionate about? Shoes? Sneakers? I do like sneakers. I saw you got some new ones. Yeah. I mean, again, I give you a quick hit. I have, I come from Addie.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I'm an addict. I've never had a drink because I know I'll drink everything. Gotcha. And I never do drugs because I know I'll do it. I'll win at drugs. There's not even a game, but I'll win. I'll win. I'll win all of it.
Starting point is 00:52:38 But what happens is I put that in other places because I know me. Yeah, yeah. And so anything that I do, I run through like the Kool-Aid man through a wall. I don't know if you know what Kool-Aid man is. I do. I do. I'm like, hello, I'm now doing this. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And shoes for probably three years. if I had a couple minutes I would just get on the phone and go and I was starting to make money for the first time Oh no I get this And I was like well I want And I never got I was always jealous of kids who had nice shoes
Starting point is 00:53:08 And the first like Check I ever got Where I was like wow I'm not living paycheck to paycheck I bought a pair of Jordans Like they mean so much to me Because I never had nice shoes I would go to yard sales and get shoes Yeah that's how I feel about my
Starting point is 00:53:20 So up until I guess I've had my car for about a year now I never had a car they see ever never had a car and none of that and legit for the up until I was doing pretty good you know making finally making money and stuff and my friends were like why are you still driving a 2007 Honda Odyssey why are you driving this minivan I was like well a mom was going to get rid of it and get a new van and so I gave them $1,500 and I took that minivan and I was like the lumbar support.
Starting point is 00:53:54 It was great. And so finally, I was like, all right. I mean, I could not make my mind up on what I wanted. And I finally went and got me a little Mercedes C-300. And she never turns the air condition off, even in the winter. Maybe 30 degrees. I knew I would be, my mom's like, you're going to be the first person to go buy them a brand new Mercedes, drive it off the lot, and there be no AC in that thing. Like, you'll be.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You asked to have it removed. I'd like the A-C. I get my first bus. Yeah. The heat and the AC went out in the front of it. I was like, this is kind of funny to me. I was like, you know, I got to find a little humor in it. But I get it with like the shoes, which I've been checking out your Balenciaga shoes.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I love Balenciaga. There's stuff so weird and I love it. These are the greatest because they're slides. Oh, nice. They're also tennis shoes. I love a flip-flop or a slide. Yeah. And these are my winter slides.
Starting point is 00:54:45 There you go. I like that. I love shoes and I spend too much money on shoes because I didn't have any money to buy shoes. Right. And I've heard you have 19 Mercedes. is now. That's what that's the text I just got. You have 19 different ones. I had 19 and then now I have 22. So you're a shoes person though too? Yeah. Yeah. What do you like the most? Probably I'm all about the Jordans now. Yeah. Consistently. Do you have what you have on now?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah. Oh, those are cool. Man, clean too. Yeah, I'm very weird about, and that's probably a problem. So right now I just live in, you know, I'm not home much. So I have like a one-bedroom cabin out by the River, it's like real peaceful. Shoes just piled up, Jordans. Because I was getting in these lotteries, and, you know, you put it in. And then if you get them, you get them. If you don't, you don't. Well, for there for like a long time, I was not getting any.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I was getting really stressed. So then I would just start putting in for like four or five different pair. And then it was like, congratulations. You've got all days and it's like, oh, gosh. But I went out to L.A. and went in some of those stores where they're just like up the wall. Awesome, right? Do you have stock X?
Starting point is 00:55:51 Do you ever use that? I do use Stock X some, yeah. It takes a little long to get in, and I'm a little... I don't really have the pay, but I will buy occasionally some stuff on stock eggs, especially if it's stuff I can't. I bought some pink New Balance. The thing about New Balance now is now they know they're cool. They now know.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And so now they're just jacking the prices up. Like when it was just a good dad shoe, those were the days. Yeah, all that's coming back. But now, New Balance are kind of cool again. Hey, Mike, you had a question about one of our tattoos? Yeah, I've been thinking about getting a Simpsons tattoo, And I know you have Maggie Simpson. What inspired that?
Starting point is 00:56:27 I don't know. I just thought it was really funny on all the Christmas and like cold episodes where they would dress her up and she looked like a little star. Literally there's no story behind that. I will say, I don't know why I'm saying this. So I have a newly diagnosed bladder condition. Very fun.
Starting point is 00:56:46 But it's weird because I was going to my doctor and he was just kind of like a very stoic man. didn't have anything and then all of a sudden he was over there washing his hands he goes hey is that a maggie tattoo on your leg and i was like yeah and he was like simpsons is still going they're still making episodes and that was it and they walked out of the room and i was like well he knew he knew maggie Simpson was so i was like i get us i got it for some reason that tattoo brought you guys together it brought us together yeah it brought us together yeah yeah but the the tattoo is what brought us together.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I'll share it a little with you, too. I have an odd IBS issue, which I never knew even was a thing. Yeah. And I had to go in and get the old tube. What's it called? A colonoscopy. And they put you under. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And you come up, and nothing was wrong with me. And I went through all that work, and nothing was wrong with me. They can't find it. So maybe I just have what you have. Yeah, yeah. I've been dealing with that since like seven. And towards the end of, well, I didn't know. And then towards the end of the last tour, and then I was doing radio stuff,
Starting point is 00:57:54 I got really tired and really grumpy and was, like, losing my mind, like, hallucinating. Couldn't figure out what was going on. I went to the doctor, and that's what it is. And so they put me on, like, a – so I have to get, like, a catheter once a week. It took you 20 years to figure that out? Because I was just going to doctors, and they were just, like, giving me an antibiotic and, like, riding it off, and I was never getting better, and they didn't, like, actually check.
Starting point is 00:58:15 So now I'm, like, immune to a lot of antibiotics because of that. Oh, that sucks. Yeah. So it's been fun. So now an antibody can't fix you because they overprescribes your robotic. Yeah. But that doctor liked my Simpson's tattoo. And this has been The Medical Minute with Morgan and Bobby.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I do want to mention that the deluxe edition of your record is out. And the next six songs, the last six songs came out on the 28th. What's today? The first? Yep. So it's been like four days. So I haven't had time to listen to these over and over and over again yet. Only one time all the way through.
Starting point is 00:58:47 So the six songs. that came out, is that what the label said they were going to do? Is that what they said that they could do for you? Is put out a longer version? No, that was actually my idea. Like, from the beginning, I knew that I always like when an artist do that. You know, they go out and they put the deluxe out. And, I mean, like, to me, especially if it's a record that I really like,
Starting point is 00:59:09 and then they go add a few more songs out with that. I always find that to be really cool. And they were really cool with that. So, yeah. Here is Through Your Eyes. I wish I see the world. We're getting close to wrapping this thing up because we've been here for an hour. I've got to wonder, and I've got to imagine now that when you're playing shows,
Starting point is 00:59:42 and are you still doing shows with Ryan, heard her? I am, yeah, yeah. Like one of my buds. Like the greatest guy. Yeah, he's super cool. Super nice. I have to wonder, though, if people are starting to know your songs a lot more and you're noticing it in the crowd now.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah, Wilder Days. We always played that one last. And if they don't know any other word, they, you know, any other song, they know Wilder Days, and it's insane. It's, like, that's one of the best compliments you can get as an artist to have them singing, screaming, every word. Are you starting to feel that, hey, I think I might actually make it. This might actually be something better than just getting a record deal.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Like, are you starting to feel that a little bit? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm looking forward to, you know, we're working on getting me my own, like, headline run. You know, with COVID and everything, it's been. all these shows are getting moved and venues have been full. And so we've been on a lot of opening shows. But I'm, like, really excited to get out there and do, like, my own run.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And I'm not nervous about it anymore because I know, like, what little shows I have done, you know, in the past year, like, just me. Like, I can sell those out. And that's, like, a good feeling to be able to go and do that and have to add other dates because you're selling stuff out. When are you moving to town? Soon. I need to. In the next three months? Six months?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah. Yeah. I thought that you seem like you have enough room here. I'll just, just, you know, back up. I mean, if I'm being honest, you probably could move in a part of the house and I'd never even know, you know. Just let yourself out the back. You know.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You know, I think Morgan's thrown me under the bus more than any other artist so far. I enjoy that. Okay. I'll never be back. You're like, you're never coming back. You'll come back more. I do have to say one of my best friend, she listens to you religiously every day. In Virginia?
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yes. Every single. You want to say her name? Yeah, Hannah. Hannah, she got married. Hannah love it. I still call her by her maiden name. But, yeah, she listens to you all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And so I guess you had given me like a shout out. You talked about me. She freaked out, called me screaming. Like, she doesn't get excited about, like, a lot of stuff, but, like, she loves you. And so, anyway, I feel like she's been talking about you and apparently tagging my name on your stuff for the last. Someone has been doing that because randomly you would just be tagged in pictures. Hannah, thanks. Yeah, I don't know. It's been like she's been doing that for years, so I feel like I really owe her like, hey, I'm here right now. Well, it's been really good to meet you. Twice, we've had to delay this. Yeah. And so I'm just a massive fan.
Starting point is 01:02:20 You know, without ever meeting you. And sometimes I'm a massive fan and then I meet somebody and I'm like, man, I wish I wasn't. But that's not the case here. Cool. You're awesome. Yeah, you have to say it right now as soon as he likes going. He's going to be like, you are not going to be like. Here's the thing. I don't have to say that and I wouldn't say that. So, but I don't even need to wish you success. Like you're, you're really, really good. You're authentic. You know, you have a, you have something to say. You have a perspective. You know, that's so hard to have an original perspective. And I think the key to having an original perspective is just sharing your own. And sometimes people are afraid to do that. And so I'm just, I'm glad you're here. Can't wait for you to move to town. I'm a big fan. So pencil me in. All right. Fan number 94,0006. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:04 As long as I have my spot, I feel pretty good. Let's go to Reed. Readd our video guy. Read you get one question. We always make Reed ask a question at the very end. All right. You say you're a big Elvis fan. Have you ever been to Graceland in Memphis?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Twice. Twice. Twice. Oh, really? I have. Yeah, it's funny. I went once when I was like, I don't know, maybe like 10. It felt like the longest drive from Virginia ever.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But then I went again a couple years ago. Really? Yeah. I've never been, but I knew you'd have a good insight about it. Yeah, it's, you should go. And now, the fellow here with you, is it your bodyguard? We actually just met. Who is?
Starting point is 01:03:43 He's my driver. He's not your driver. Well, actually, he did drive me here. I don't have my car out here. I flew. Because I didn't see, when you said Mercedes, I didn't see a Mercedes come in. I know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Yeah. It's at home still. It's at home still. Yeah, I'm literally, I just got in from Key West yesterday. and I leave tomorrow to go to Boston. All right. Well, I'm glad you're here. Everybody check out Reckless.
Starting point is 01:04:05 The deluxe edition just came out if you were like me and you gobbled up the entire record. Six new songs. You're killing it. This song's going to be a massive, massive hit. That's all. I have nothing else to say except I've said everything good and I mean all of it.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And I'm not really going to say much opposite of this when you leave. Cool. Much opposite. All right, there she is. You guys follow Morgan at Morgan Wade Music. Morgan away, music. Thanks, Morgan. Yeah, thank you. Air Tasker knows your to-do list can be a little varied. Mount shelves in the garage, mow the lawn before the in-laws visit,
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