The Bobby Bones Show - Danny Fields: A Man who changed the face of Rock n Roll
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And on this Taking a Walk, classic replay, the date, July 6th, 2022, the place, the wonderful Greenwich Village area,
where we met up with a man who changed the face of rock and roll.
It's fair to say he was really part of the invention of the punk rock movement.
I had so much fun meeting up with and walking with Danny Fields, the original manager of Lou Reed and the Ramones.
A fascinating life he has led.
and on this episode we'll meet up with Danny Fields next on Taking a Walk.
Danny Fields, it's so nice to be taking a walk with you in the lovely West Village.
Yeah, this used to be a little more racy and avant-garde and experimental and young and gay and old and eccentric.
Oh, we're on famous.
Tenth Street over there is Christopher Street,
which people conflate with gay liberation
because it was a Tuesday block called the Stonewall
further on Christopher Street.
So what we, what in America is called Gay Pride Day or something.
Yeah.
In Germany, it is Christopher Street Day.
Really?
And they would say, oh, are you here for CSD?
And people go, huh?
For Christopher Street Day, they named the holiday after the dreadful Christopher Street.
I wish there were more interesting people that are here and everything known.
They're boring.
And you see nannies with $1,000 baby cabbors.
You know, and mom and dad are all, you know, maybe a lot of money.
So it is way different, obviously, than the day.
Oh, God, it's so different.
My first apartment in Greenwich Village was $99 a month.
That was in the early 1960s a long time ago, but still $99,
but the medium for one-bedroom in Manhattan now is $4,000 a month.
Right.
Do you like walking around still?
No, they got it off.
No, you just hate it.
It's too much.
No, it's not too much.
It's too nothing.
It's, yeah, I'm saying it's like...
These are all these little boutique shops of designer and stuff.
The street became high-end to shop.
It's true.
Yeah.
As you see, the street is falling into the earth.
They do this a lot.
There's no street anymore.
this metal place.
This on the next corner
was the famous pink tea cup
where it was sort of rock and roll
started.
So the typical routine was like
started what time of the day
when you would just go hang and listen to music
and hang with friends and...
Oh, well that was so good because
any office job
that involved
anything to do with
show business or music
I wouldn't come in until
12 1 o'clock because
to assume
I was hanging out
that was good because I
can't ever get up before a new
ring.
This was Italian
sort of second and third generation
immigrants. That was the village.
It's quaint
compared to the Upper East
side and it's not so busy, incredibly packed and all that as Upper West Side.
But the place to live now is way down town where they're converting old office buildings
into the apartments.
You see, that was open.
He's a big cafe.
This sidewalk
That whole corner
It's gone
Things are just
Boarded up
And the reason
I don't mean to sound snotty
You asked before
Do I just go walking around
Why?
I mean, why?
You see drugstores and banks
I'm so spoiled
and staying in Soho, and you just walked out, and it was a show.
Better than a show that you paid a lot of money for to see.
But look at it, it's the bank.
Yeah.
John Lerden once claimed Shares in the Square is the center of the world.
This is Sheridan Square.
Is this not like a center of the world to you?
Not to me.
What year did you move to the village?
When I got out of Harvard Law School,
in 1960.
And I lived in a hotel.
I was $70 a month.
It was just off Washington's Square bar.
It was so...
I had to sleep with the toothpaste under my pillow
or else it would be frozen solid in the morning.
Um, yes.
The meeting.
It's the Village Plaza Hotel.
Now it's a posh apartment house.
Oh, God, Village Plaza.
And that's the Gay Plaza.
because here's the stone wall.
And this, I'm sorry, Danny, right here,
this is a fairly notorious spot, right?
This is video forever.
I have never said put in it.
I have no idea what goes on.
But it's still...
But you've heard.
It's here.
This happened to be the police
that wasn't paying enough protection.
So the police raided it
and the drag queens began.
protesting and Charleney.
This was a famous liquor store.
Oh, okay.
Oh, and Lou Reed, wait, this is the best part.
Is he all the Rick Brits?
He lived in that apartment.
Oh, he did.
Oh, wow.
And one night after his concert,
the bottom line, he brought home the tape of the cons.
I loved him very much, and I'm not saying anything.
I'm not saying anything derogatory about Louis
because I never would
and I loved him very much.
He was a sweet guy.
He put the tape on.
The shows were over,
it was like one or two in the morning,
and you'd come by here,
the windows were open.
I swear the speakers were pointed out.
Lou was listening to his performance
earlier that night,
and so was everybody else,
within a square mile.
This is quite,
Charmed Village. It's all owned by NYU. Yeah, most of this area, right? Is NYU? Yeah.
Hi. I'm just with Brian and Brooke for a second. They're embarked on a $30 billion expansion.
Now, when I was in high school and I want to show you that building once that's have you have a good story better from me.
NYU was the, when you couldn't get into any school,
and your parents wouldn't send you out of town,
it was NYU.
It was really for the bottom 20th percentile.
If you don't see buzzers on them,
there are individuals, nor you see buzzers.
There's a way that's subdivided.
But a few of these houses are intact as they were.
when they were built for
this was the site.
Here on Wall Street, this was a
suburb because it was
a mile or two miles
by forcing a carriage.
The East 80s
where the mayor's mansion
is now was once
the summer mansion of
the Riker family.
No, Rikers Island where the
prison is was the summer man.
Here's some other one. But
going to the East 80s,
was five hours from Wall Street.
So that was like your weekend in the country.
We went to Haiti Street.
Isn't that funny?
North of 23rd Street was really uptown.
And the 42nd Street where the library is now was a reservoir.
And you walked around the edge of it.
Now it's really a trip to the country, the 45th Street.
Well, go back to what you were talking about how,
In London, it's, you know, things haven't really changed this dramatically.
Why is that?
Well, they have.
And my gym, that used to close at 11, now closes at 10.
So why that?
Oh, well, we had very restrictive areas during the lockdown.
Yes, but it's over.
So that was really nice having a gym.
but last 11.
But there was a shrink.
When we went in December
of last year
Christmas through January
to London, it seemed like
70% of London
was there. But of course, all the
big cities were closed down, restaurants
were closed down, and none
of them ever knew
that they would be able to open again, because
who knew what was happening.
Right.
That on the corner was the Hotel Earl.
It was really cheap.
It's where a rock and roll bandit.
Of course, this was the village,
and it was probably $30, $40 a night.
Now it's the Hotel Washington Square,
and it's like $500 in a house.
This is a high-end gourmet restaurant.
gourmet restaurant.
These here, on the north side of the square,
were the private mansions of, again,
people who were in business, finance, downtown.
This was pretty far north.
This was like, okay, it will be acceptable.
I think Henry James Washington Square
is one of those imaginarily set in one of those first two houses.
See, NYU?
Yeah.
This is sort of a drug-y corner.
At NYU, they say, who needs a campus?
You know, Washington's...
See?
Has it always been that corner?
What has it always been?
The drug corner of the park over...
The whole park was.
The whole park!
You couldn't walk down from there to there without
a $5 dollar bags, by dollar dollar.
It still is to some
the same. You can sort of see them.
But
these were
mansions.
And behind it,
I'll show you, was
the news, the
stables.
This is what they do when they try to pretend
we are
preserving the quality
of the neighborhood. They tear down
a bunch of these and build
that. So you're
supposed to think,
This is from 1811, you know.
Yeah.
Oh, look how it blends in with these two on your dear old house.
This was a splendid place to live.
The park is active.
There's a lot of activity going on always.
Yeah.
It's Washington's real.
Yeah.
This is where David Field recorded have him now wanted, which if you've
that title, there's no such thing as have a marijuana, right?
I mean, no one says that.
Right, have a marijuana.
But I was reading in Time magazine an account of an anti-war protests
that stormed into Grand Central Station.
And the writer of the article said,
a crowd of hippies burst in singing, have a marijuana.
The song is, I like marijuana, but he had a little bit of a speech defect.
So, you know, I remember Lama?
So the guy said, singing, you have a marijuana.
And I said, there's the title of you.
And that was it.
That was it.
That was gold.
It was a typo.
I mean, a typo.
It was a misreport.
You see, behind it is amused with little carriage houses, for sure.
now, three to four million dollars.
And someone lives up there.
Oh, man.
There's an apartment that's the door.
I don't know what his title is.
But Eleanor Roosevelt lived there.
They hardly ever lived together, you know.
But she lived over on that side, Eleanor?
On that side, in Washington Square was.
And they built a special elevator in case the president ever wanted to come and see his
wife's new New New York apartment. And he used it once. I've taken a 44 campaign once to change.
Really? Yeah. You just had to pick up some shoes that he... Yeah, well, you know. The sound you hear are
skateboarders. Yeah. You see these trashy? This was never here. This was completely illegal.
not sell thing in Washington
through. With the lockdown
and the
loosening of everything
and you didn't know what kind of world you lose.
This is what
it's become. Yeah. It's like a
bizarre and it's
unhurt.
Oh.
I'm not sure they're going to be an
ugly job.
Okay, we're going to fourth street.
Oh.
I missed the part of Fourth Street.
between 7th and Hudson, which is where Bob was living when he wrote positive with
4th Street.
So it was here to Washington Square south, and then it becomes Fort Street again, but that
is Fort Street.
Were there other concerts here besides David Peel?
It wasn't out of concert.
This is, I think it was a song, Washington Square, where on Sundays, on accompanied
acoustic singers would sing in little crowds.
But uh-no-no, Washington Square, something like that.
It's a songwriter finds his destiny in Washington Square once a week.
He can come here and sing for free.
And David was sort of by that tree.
and that's where I stopped and said, oh my God, this is it.
This is that album.
And one of those lampposts has really got the electricity.
Could they pull that off today?
Well, what they're pulling off?
Yeah.
You're still a drug.
Yeah.
You're sticking a lot.
Everything for a lamp post.
That's minor.
That's the end of the live room.
That was a big lot.
with terraces around each floor.
They found out during finals time,
everyone in the past was jumping off of suicide.
They mean they cleaned up the bodies.
There really was people, NYU students,
were jumping off the back.
That's NYU, that's the suicide.
Let's go look at the suicide job.
See, it's kind of pleasant over here.
Yeah.
It's different.
It's different.
Yeah, you have to see what they did.
You see the suicide.
See that metal fence?
Yep.
That was never there.
So at finals time, they were just kids flying off the balcony.
This is the railing.
It's only that hot.
So we need your tuition.
So we're going to invest in the fence.
Right there.
September 7th, 2018.
Yeah.
I was getting out of a taxi.
You can see my friend doing a poetry panel there.
And my hand was on the door, one of those doors,
and he stepped on the accelerator.
I went flying.
Oh, boy.
It smashed this emergency surgery.
But he still haven't gotten a penny.
Oof.
I know.
And the lawyers were working on it because we expect a break.
We expect a break any week.
We expect a break.
You can't drive a cab or own a cab without taking out insurance on it.
That's part of the way you get your taxi owner license.
Yeah.
Oof.
How does it feel?
Well, it feels sucking.
Yeah.
We're now in Eastport Street.
It's one of those odd streets that, you know, with London,
the street will change names three times.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is still, it twists and turns, it still remains, fourth street.
It's still lodged.
That's, there are three apartment houses looking like that piece of shit, and those with the
apartment houses that were going to have the Fifth Avenue South of Drift.
The same time Robert Moses was planning to go the highway through the square, and of course he was
Of course, he was invested in this building, financially invested in the building,
and putting a highway for Washington Square, so the building that he was a partner in owning
with now command fireplaces.
This is Mercer Street, and where that gap is was the Mercer Street Hotel,
which is where the New York Dolls played.
And that was New York.
York rock and roll. And it was a scene and they played there once every few weeks and they
would get the coolest, took this wildest people and this is the New York Dolls and we really
loved that. It collapsed one day. It just started to rumble. It was the great society hotel
of the 1880s. It was a Mercer Art Center. It was really beautiful building.
God.
That's not it.
Yeah.
That's another building.
The building that you can't exist.
It does not exist.
The bottom line, any particular anecdotes from that place?
It was wonderful that it was there.
It's kind of an ordeal.
Sitting your seat,
wipe you a waitress, order your friends for eyes.
Make sure they know the record company's.
picking up the bill.
It was like that.
Here comes the show.
It has to be over now.
No more on court.
The dressing room was about
the size of the back.
I'm sure there are histories that say
who played at the bottom line.
And it will be a hoosur.
Every act that broke
in the 70s.
Yeah, I remember.
There was the Springsteen show
that any WFM broadcast from
there which was sort of pivotal for his beginning.
This was the main business therapy, New York, this was Broadway, and these were great
office buildings.
I mean, look at the size of them, and you know what a great office building looks like,
now it's 80-story-7.
These were them, so whenever possible, were still existing, being turned into residential
residential loss, which are 10 million.
This is, remember my building?
Yep.
It's the same era.
Oh, wow.
You sort of tell the hall.
They were big on arches.
Yep.
It's always 1890s, 1890s.
Each one of these buildings was a prize for your businesses.
The great market prestige that you had, a building on board.
And now they're good for nothing, but Rich Arles.
Now the streets change things.
Ray Jones Street is Third Street.
For some reason, it's grain trust like one.
There's no reason for it, but could become a great street.
These abilities were cast iron fronts.
They're super protected.
This is one of the great areas of the 19th century architecture was cast iron.
They all look like.
No, they all look like that.
So, Danny, what are you doing these days other than walk on with me?
I got two guys there, again organizing my archives.
I don't like the way the photographs are organized.
Every drawer in about eight filing cabinets had a huge folder called M-I-S-C.
That's where everything went.
Okay, that was the opera house.
There, that's the New York Public Theater.
That's old.
That's another area.
It's all modern.
What's going on?
Yeah, yeah.
Lafayette Street becomes Fourth Avenue.
And that's another one of those.
Building, unless it's the same on a point of school before.
Exactly, it was built by the same architect who did my building.
And downstairs was a club that called.
It was like a cabaret.
John Rivers would play there.
That middler and it was like that was very...
Here comes the old Seaman's merchants.
Old Seamurchants house.
It was a building that was long ago designated for Prejudication.
So this whole part of New York looked like that.
And that was a private house.
house, but now it was like, okay, here's the old merchant's here, merchant's house.
Oh, yeah.
This always astonishes Peter.
What was there?
It was there.
I don't know.
I will never know.
Something was there.
Now it's like an awful little heart catch.
Yeah.
Now we come to the Bowery, which is 3rd Avenue, but it's called the Bowery Boundary.
And this was the first street in America of the world was something to have electric plugs.
So we're really going back.
This was a salam.
Madonna lived on 5th Street between here and the next block.
That was her first move.
That would be on my jewel.
I'd suddenly go up and see what her triplex was on Central Park.
Something that we loved was here.
Thanks, gone.
Huh.
And had a garden.
It was lovely.
It's great.
But this place, the Bowery, would have been, like...
All bums.
All bums.
All bums.
All bums.
And lino.
Now it's choice.
It's choice to real estate.
Oh, okay. Really? That's nice.
They really know where they're working, right?
Yes.
Nobody would come here.
You've had a band playing at CVs, which was in the next law.
I can't go to that name, right?
Because he's just drunks.
I mean, they're not wild outlaws with AR-15,
15, they're just drunk.
No, can't go there.
Too disgusting, they're always asking for money,
or they're filthy, or they smell,
or was the disgrace of New York.
This was good role.
So you have passed your archives on
to Yale, or some of your archives?
Yes.
Well, 75 cartons.
They took three shipments from their land,
and I look around,
I don't see any lot of space here now.
You still have a few things.
I never asked for my art for getting on the wall.
Never asked for my photographs,
which I'd be happy to give them digitized,
because they don't, they just want the record.
There comes a point where they like the very original thing.
on a shot.
Oh, okay.
Like the original tape.
What is the tape?
This is not like handmade.
Okay.
So as old as you could get, this was a theater.
That wasn't as very cool.
Okay, Bond Street with Second Street.
Now I will show you, CBGVs is now an extremely pretentious t-shirt store.
Really?
Really?
Ramon's Central.
This is Joey Ramon way you might want to notice.
Yeah.
Because this is Ramon's.
This was Ramon's territory.
Yeah.
That's the most stolen street sign in New York.
Look at that.
At one point they had it so high, you couldn't read it, but you couldn't steal it either.
Six East.
Second Street.
is where the Ramones, our director, Arturo Veda,
was very brilliant, wonderful, lived,
that building with a white frame.
And the Ramones would use it as the dressing room.
The dressing room was the big of that size.
Okay, and there was a shower curtain in front of it.
So between sets or whatever, they were gathered,
and they've all lived there in their time.
And this was an alley behind CBGB's.
It was like a delivery alley.
Here is a famous cemetery.
I don't even know if you could ever get in up as the soul hole.
But let's walk around the corner.
I'll show you what the CB's universe was.
A little different than it was back then.
I mean, it was smart people were finding bargain locks.
and who weren't bothered by
trunks passed out on the sidewalks
because they didn't really hurt you.
That's good.
So, Valerie and Bleaker,
that's the bend of Bleaker,
that was the famous corner
where you got out of your taxis
and went to see these,
none of these storefronts existed
then, I don't know what they were.
These were blockheads.
Right.
What you see is the second floor,
and it signed would say
Washington Hotel
or Central Hotel
or something.
They were just caught slime
with the bombs. It was 25 cents a night
and
voila, CVJVs.
It tries to pretend.
Now, in New York, if you vacated
space and someone else
moves in, that has nothing
to do with who was there before.
But they
going to the myth of this itself is safer.
This is for CBJ's. It's not. C.Bs moved out and the clothing store moved in.
Are you open?
Sorry? Are you open?
No, not. Okay.
This was empty locks. So we would do our box smoking.
from out here. This was an empty lot.
Bombs on the sidewalk. But you get an idea, some of the buildings are very like that.
And some of them are 19th century tenements like those.
But they're doomed.
Amazing.
So here, these rich young marries, their parents, buy them apartments here.
It's been sort of very cheap.
This is the gallery.
This is the Hall of Gallery.
This is Arturo Vega.
Oh yeah.
Who was an artist and lived over there
and was a very dear friend of the owner.
It's a gay nation.
I'm waiting for someone to say,
for someone to say, Danny, finally came.
This became sort of
the gallery for the C.B.'s people,
photographers and things were cool.
Here, the world's filthiest garbage alley,
where I took the Ramon's Rocket to Rush album cover,
and this is your knee-deep in garbage and rats.
One of those was the stage load and the equipment door to CBG
was probably this.
You could see Arturo's apartment.
This was a brick wall, and they leaned against it,
and there's a truck, was Hilly.
Crystal was in the moving business.
The moving, yeah, he moved here.
He had a truck.
It was parked back here.
He's a famous picture of the Ramon sitting on the flap of the truck.
surrounded by
mounds of garbage
and now it's
gentriful and this is what
the future of New York
holds strokes
but
this was so disgusting
it's like if they said
this is Bombay
you'd go oh now I know what a real
slum looks like
it's an old school
but you didn't care
the trucks pulled up you loaded in your tars
and people hung out here
because the backstage was too tiny.
Second Street where Arturo was being
and where you used to be able to see into the alley
where I took the rocket to Russia.
And Didi lived in the building,
and Joey lived there,
so it's Ramon's charge of it.
Yeah.
You won't see the trace of the film world.
Do you've found the cover of Allman Brothers
alive at the film at the film were east?
Yep.
Okay.
And the sitting in front of brick wall, the brick wall is not the film artist.
It's somewhere in Georgia.
Oh, boy.
This is still a vibrant neighborhood.
As you can see, compared to where I live, this is what I would call moderately vibrant.
And there are things open, there are people walking around.
It's civilized and pleasant.
Yeah, it's a lot of beautiful.
Yeah.
That was where the Fillmore, the auditorium.
Oh, wow.
This very street was where Electoral Records, in conjunction with WNYU,
took over the Fillmore East for a night in 1968
to introduce the MC5 to New York.
Wow.
Okay, so the weeks before, and they promised
500 tickets to the community.
Okay, so the community had never received its tickets,
and they were angry, and they were swarming here,
and it was mainly the motherfuckers,
or the most extremely ugly people anyone has ever seen.
Okay, the motherfuckers, and they would nurse their babies
in the theater seats and changed diapers
and telephone booths.
really disgusting. They were really angry. It was my responsibility to get the MC5 down here.
So how do you travel when you have a band? You hire a limo. Well, it was like throwing anything decent in their faces.
Yeah. This was capitalist. Greed and horror was symbolized by cut.
Come on, that's how you go to funerals and weddings. You take people around. It's not
my limousine, like a band's limousine.
We rented a limousine because there's a lot of us to get down here.
So these people went wild.
Wow.
And they stormed in.
See, that was the theater.
That's all in.
They stormed in.
We're changing change.
And then see, I told them, go stay in your dressing room.
Until this happily blows over.
but the evening disintegrated into just bad start
for N.E.W. Electric Records, the MC5, V.
You couldn't dirty the motherfuckers, because they were so dirty to begin with.
But those 500 tickets were found in the drawer of the theater's manager.
He never did, much as we hate him, he was an asshole,
but he never did give them out because he didn't like them.
shitty in the aisles.
So he was determined.
He thought he could
somehow not give them
500 angry, ugly
people. There are free tickets
to this band
of the revolution.
And so they were denied that, so
they were on edge, and then we
pull up right here with a limo
and fucking hellgo.
Bill Graham
claims he was hit over
the head and his nose broken.
by Robin Tine, the least singer of the MC5,
who wouldn't step on an ant?
Okay, the world's least violent and sweetest person.
Who was up in the Jersey?
So I had a pass being pressed and breaking.
And it was a little yellow card,
and so this will admit the bearer.
The time it was expired.
Okay, so a few weeks later,
I went in to see another baby.
on the usual business guy.
And outside Bill's office, I said to his assistant,
oh, I need this renewed.
Did you ask Bill to...
So I thought everything had been settled
between Jack Haltzman and Graham and N.W.
And the car comes back chorn and chewed, fuck you.
Bill Graham.
Well...
He didn't get him over the head.
Oh, man.
I know.
That's...
Danny.
Danny, Danny,
the beautiful part about taking a walk with you is
you're not just telling a story.
You lived in the story.
Oh, yeah.
You know, he's a hundred years old.
He lived.
The 6th Street is Bill Graham Way.
You see that sign?
Yeah.
I think that says Bill Graham Way
because of the film war.
Well, Danny, I told you
we were going to do a little sauntary.
We did a nice long walk.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we did a lot of steps.
We had it for a time, we never did uptown.
Did you ever count your photographs, like how many that you actually have?
I guess hundreds of thousands.
Yeah.
Danny.
It was such fun.
Thank you so much.
You've done this in a closet.
Let's do it again.
I have to tell you about my last disastrous one, but yes, we will.
I hope so.
I bless you her with non-English speaking of Belgians with blue hair.
who only wants her to know where Michael Jobs is he.
Thanks, Danny.
Take care of all.
Okay, appreciate your generosity.
Absolutely.
Thank you very much.
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