The Bobby Bones Show - FEELING THINGS: 5 Things to Say Instead of “It Will Be Okay” (Hint: Bring Cookies, Not Advice)

Episode Date: February 15, 2026

When life feels loud and uncertain, “it will be okay” doesn’t always help. Amy and Kat talk about how to show up without fixing, why validation matters, and what real support looks like. They also share what they’re feeling of the day, what they're reading and watching, including immersion reading and a perimenopause documentary that sparked a conversation about hormones, relationships, and why everything can feel turned way up. Amy reflects on her divorce, what perimenopause may (or may not) have influenced, and why understanding your body matters. Plus, a heartfelt voicemail from a listener in Alberta reminds them why the randomness, laughter, and everyday conversations matter...especially in hard seasons. 5 Things to Say Instead of “It Will Be Okay”: 1. “Gosh, this sounds hard.”Lead with validation instead of solutions. Naming how difficult something feels helps people feel seen rather than fixed. 2. “What do you need from me right now?”Before giving advice, check in. Sometimes people want help, sometimes they just want to be heard...and they may not even know yet. 3. “Sounds like you’re having a very human reaction.”Normalize their response. Fear, anger, sadness, and overwhelm are often appropriate reactions...not signs something is wrong with them. 4. “I don’t know the right thing to say, but I’m here.”Be honest and present. You don’t need the perfect words to offer support...your presence matters more than certainty. 5. “I’m bringing you over cookies.”When asking what someone needs feels like too much, take the guesswork out and do something tangible. Care doesn’t have to be complicated. Get some Feeling Things merch by clicking HERE! (FeelingThingsPodcast.com) Sign up for the Feeling Things newsletter HERE! Watch us on Youtube HERE! Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // threecordstherapy.com // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat. And today we're going to get into things you can tell yourself so that you're going to think it's okay when it's really not okay. No. That's not what we're talking about. It sinks to say when you're not sure if it's going to be okay.

That's it. Yeah. That's close. Yeah, Kat being the licensed therapist, yeah. She's going to guide us through five things to say instead of it will be okay. Yeah. That's more like it. But before we get into that, I'm going to talk about, look, what we're reading, what we're watching, what we're listening to, all the things. Can I share my field in the day first? Well, yeah, duh. That's normally how we start things. Okay. This was hard for me because I wanted to say I was excited, but I'm not feeling excited. I just was feeling fine, but fine is not a feeling. So it's not a feeling. So it's not. took me a while to get here. I'm just content. But I'm not usually just content. I feel like I operate in like a, you know, both sides of the spectrum and not in the center. So I'm just feeling content. I like that you're sharing like a middle of the road feeling. Because it normalizes it. Like, yeah, because a lot of times our feelings are extreme. And it's like you can just be content.

And there's nothing wrong with that. Right. But if I'm just feeling content and I'm not usually like that, somebody might think there's something wrong with me, you know, because I'm not like, hey. I'm just like, hi. What are you all doing for Valentine's Day? Well, and this is popping to my head because I was texting with another friend earlier, and she was talking about how Valentine's Day is just kind of always me. And I was like, yeah, me is a good feeling. I know it's not an official feeling, but meh.

We could add it to the wheel. We could add just the wheel of feelings. Just me, you know, so she's like, I don't really have high expectations. just kind of is what it is. And so I was like, oh, I wonder what Cat and Big P are doing. Well, I don't feel, well, maybe I do feel mad about Valentine's Day. It's just so close to our anniversary because our anniversary is the 16th, which I chose that. I just, like, wasn't thinking.

Right. And you don't have to get dressed up for something like twice. That's what I think. I don't even want to get dressed up for my anniversary. Well, I was thinking, gosh, if you had to get dressed up on the 14th to go do something and then you got to get dressed up on the 16th to do something, I would definitely combine. Well, and you know me. like to look forward to something. So it's kind of annoying that these things are back to back

because also you don't want to spend or I don't want to spend a lot of money like two days almost back to back. So last year we did good. Well, that's my idea. So I did good. But we ordered, this is where my pottery started. We ordered an at home pottery kit and made pizza at home. The pizzas were not good. But the pottery was really fun. And it was cute. And we got to stay in our pajamas. Oh yeah, I love that. Okay. This year, we have no place. Well, that's good. I mean, you don't have to. Yeah. What are you celebrating your second anniversary? Yeah, how boring. You're like, we've married two years now. We have nothing planned. But also, I feel like Valentine's Day is stressful to go out because you have to get a reservation like three months before. And it's on a Saturday night this year. So it's competing with people that already are going out on a Saturday.

And a lot of those restaurants do like prefixed menus. And I'm like, I don't want the prefix menu. I want to pick what I want. I don't want it to come with all those things, you know? So we're probably going to go get pizza somewhere. That's so funny because like I love a prefix menu because I don't have to think. It just is what it is. But what if you want something else?

And I don't have to make a decision. But what if it's not what you want it? It's probably going to be good. If you're going somewhere that has a prefixed menu. I'm a little pickier than you. Yeah, that's true. So I'm, yeah. Yeah.

What are you doing? Going to the UVA versus Ohio basketball game at Bridgestone. You don't sound excited or content. I mean, it is what it is. It's on Valentine's Day. It's a Saturday night. So it says it's confusing. If you look at them online, it says like at Ohio.

So I got confused for a second. Like, we're not, I'm not going to Ohio for. You don't think I'm going to go. The basketball game on the Valentine's weekend. But it's at Bridgestone here in Asheville. So we're going to that. Why is that Ohio's home? I guess it's just one of those games.

Sometimes they play games where they go meet somewhere in a neutral. Lucky you. I don't know why UVA and Ohio are playing a game of Bridgestone. Wait, is it the like SEC tournament or something? Don't know. It's. ACC. ACC. I don't know. We're doing. We're doing that.

I have no idea if we're. A bunch of, so my boyfriend went to UVA and a bunch of his friends from college, they're all coming to Nashville. Is the person coming that you spill the drink on? Yes. Oh, you get to have like a little round two. Yes. And I'm like, please. I go at the last sporting event I saw her at the football game.

I spilled a drink. And yeah. So my goal is going to be not spill a drink on her again. So that's our big plan. But I like the idea of also if we were to do something in addition to that, celebrate. being low-key like you were saying with making dinner at home and maybe pottery. I don't know or something along the life of that. I don't see you and Alex to eat pottery.

Possibly not. Alex will be like, whose idea was this? I think he's like, he's surprisingly might be more down for it than you think. Okay, well then I challenge you to make pottery. Okay. The thing is, I don't know if I want to do that. Okay. well if you change your mind i have all the supplies so just call me okay what are you watching on tv

anything i'm desperate for something to watch i finished my documentary well we can talk about that but i feel like i'm in the same boat as you i've been rolling through things really fast like we watched his and her or her his and hers we watched another show i don't know the name i'm now watching the pit season two here's the problem season one i watched it after i had been out for months So all the episodes were, I could just watch it. I watched it in like a week. They only release one episode a week. It's driving me crazy.

Yeah. That's not how I, it's like I want to watch this show so bad because I love it. But I also want to watch it all at once. And so I can't like have the self-control to not watch it. But then I also, when I watch it, I get mad because I'm like, where's the other episode? Right. I think that I have a love-hate relationship with that style too. Obviously, it's the only way we could watch TV back in the day.

Do that. However, I do get excited when that day rolls around and I'm like, oh, it's Wednesday or oh, it's Thursday. I'm like, oh, there's a new episode up. Yeah. It is, it evokes some sort of excitement and feeling around that with TV and patience. Also watching Traders, which is one episode a week. Are you into that?

No, I don't even know. You've tried to tell me about it. I don't even know. You just have some game show. No. It's not, when you say game, it's not a game show or a reality show. It's the best combination of both. And stop it's not either of them.

It's both of them. It's both of them together. Patrick likes it. He doesn't really like reality TV, although he's gotten really into Summer House. I keep seeing some, some. Which is like the trashiest of the reality TV. Yeah, I can get into that. I keep seeing ads on Netflix for some show called Alone.

And I don't really know what that is. I don't know, but I'm like, it's like a real show where people have to survive somewhere alone. And I'm like, I. I want to go somewhere alone. Not on that show. Yeah, I don't want to have to like figure it out and survive for myself. Do you want to go on a trip? Maybe.

You want to go on a vacation alone? Maybe I just need to go, yeah, for like a weekend alone somewhere or a day. Like a day trip to Leepers Fork or something. Well, you could do that. Yeah. I need to like work that in. I think it would be very nice. Are you a, like would you travel alone to on a like?

vacation by choice? I haven't yet, but yes, I would. Do you desire that? I don't, okay, but I would do it if you had to. I guess I wouldn't be, here's, okay, here's my official answer. I haven't done it, but I'm not opposed to it. Like, it's not unappealing to me. I don't even know that that's it. I'm saying when I see other people do it, I'm intrigued. And I'm like, wow, that might be really cool to do one day. I'm not like, oh, I would never do that. Because some people, I think, look at that and they're like, that, you would never catch me doing that. Yeah. But like my sister, when she went to visit my niece, so her daughter was studying in Spain for college, like a semester, and my sister went over to see her. But on her way to Spain, she stopped in

Paris for a couple of days by herself. And she went and got like this charcutory board. I don't know, maybe by a little vendor or something, but it had like fruit and cheese and meat. And like, she got a bottle of wine and she went and sat on the grass by the Eiffel Tower all by herself. And I was like, that's so cool. I can't believe my sister's doing that. I was really proud of her. And I thought, this is a good trip for her. But she had a final destination to be with somebody else. So it wasn't like the full trip. And then we have another friend. She's actually closer to you than me. I just know her through you. But she went to, I believe it was Paris by herself. Oh, yeah. She's actually traveled to Spain by herself.

Yeah. But she also talks to people. Like she meets people and like she actually has gone on dates with people, which is kind of scary. Oh, I'm not going to do that. Uh-uh. Nope. Not in a fort country. If you do that, you've got to share your location with a lot of people. And make sure they know. I'm also like, at one time I was like, I'm going to be the kind of person that can like travel alone. I don't even like to go eat by myself, you know. But I think it would be different if you're in a city that nobody knows you, you know? So I did like a pretend alone trip where I went to Chicago with my friend, but then she had a work event. So she was gone for like a day and a half. So I was there in Chicago for a day and a half by myself. And I took myself out to eat to get like deep dish pizza, which I decided I didn't like. Just I want the cheese on the top of it, you know.

Have you had deep dish pizza? Yes, I have. It just like wasn't the, I didn't. Anyway, but I went to a bar that's like, I guess it was a famous type of place. I looked at it up and I was sitting at the bar. This was like 2019, 2020, something like that. And I remember thinking, I hope nobody talks to me. Like I was like, I got to eat this pizza and get out because I don't want anybody to talk to me.

That's what people talk about. I was like, you go to a bar, you sit, you strike up random conversation with a stranger, blah, blah. And I was like, wanted to be invisible. And I said, traveling alone is not for me. Yeah. See, I think you have nailed that down for yourself. You know that that's clear. I don't think I've nailed that down.

You're better at conversating with random people than I am. You're very good at that. But do you enjoy it? I don't mind it. I do want to get better at that. I want to just be like a small talker, you know? Yeah. You know what I small talked about the other night at a like a parent get together?

And it was with moms that like I didn't know at all. And you know I figured out the new small talk for people my age. Is paramounting pause? 100%. How did you know? Because you talk about it a lot. Yeah. But it's like you want to instantly like have something to talk about and seem like, oh, we all kind of know each other, like each other.

Not that it wasn't that vibe of we didn't like each other. It's like you don't know each other. It's a common thing. And you're all like trying to talk. And it was almost like I mentioned the documentary, which is what I had been watching. I mentioned, have you all seen balance a pariuminipause journey? And it's like all these ears perk up. And they're like getting out their phones and like writing it down.

And I was like, oh. This is interesting. This is like the new, instead of like weather, it's like very metaphors. But with a specific audience. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I don't, I mean, but I think you could strike it up with men, especially if they're married and they're my age, then their wife is going through it. What would be your opener? My opener is the documentary. Well, so do you just say, so have you seen this? Yeah. Because it just came out like 10 days ago or something. So you say, have you seen that new documentary that Alyssa? Sal Milano helped with called Balance, a parameda posh journey.

And they're like, no, where are we watching? I'm like, well, you can watch it on Apple or Amazon, but you have to pay for it. Oh, really? And it's four episodes. Yeah, you have to pay. But here's my thing. I think it was worth it. Sometimes I was a little bored, just to be honest, but it's very medical. So some stuff was just, I'm like, wow, they know a lot, which is good. Don't you think eventually it will become streamable? I hope so. My frustration was, I wish this was free to all because some people that probably really want to watch it, they're like, whatever, I'm already paying an arm and a leg for all these streaming services or my cable. Like, I'm not going to pay another $8 to watch this, which mine was only eight because I opted for the SD version,

which is the cheaper. Well, I'm sure that was just as good, right? It's just as good. What was the HD version? It's like a dollar more per episode. Oh, okay, per episode. That's four more dollars. Or sometimes like 99 cents. Like, I don't know how anybody ever downloads the HD version. Like, that's just not that important to me. I'm always going to get the cheaper option. So anyway, I watched it. Okay. Alone? The documentary?

Yeah. Yeah, I watched it on. And now if you were like gathered at your family and are like, guys, this is what I'm going through. I probably should. Like, anybody in my orbit is required to watch this. Could you start sending $8 to everybody you know? Yeah, could you go ahead and watch this, please?

It did make me think about my marriage, though, and this is not why I got divorced at all. But one of the doctors in the documentary, and she was saying this in jest, like it was not, there's this is not data it's not facts but she was having clients come to her and she'd be like you know about every three weeks they're wanting to get a divorce and then it would be a cycle but it was because the hormone shifts that their body was going through and they couldn't explain it but they were like over their relationship like certain levels obviously ruin your sex drives so then you're not connected intimately there you feel crazy everything annoys you and you can't explain it and it's all

hormonal and sometimes if you have a doctor that knows, you may go in and start describing all of your symptoms and there are a doctor that knows. Shouldn't doctors? Well, not all doctors. No, there was so many women. They had everyday women talking about doctors appointments that they had where they went in and they felt completely dismissed. But then they would go to some of the doctors now that specialize in perimenopause with the knowledge and the notoriety now of like, oh, I need to go to this doctor. She clearly will hear me and believe me. And, they're like, oh my gosh, I feel so seen. Like this one girl, she talked about how she had some of the symptoms too early,

but there is no too early. She was just younger than most. I mean, she was having stuff happen. Well, I don't want to put it in a box because I'm not a medical professional, and I think it can happen to anyone at any time, it seems. But I'm in the window right now where I'm like prime perimenopause. So a girl that was younger than me was having symptoms and she went in. And like he ended up prescribing her like a person.

pain reliever and like some other mental health type medication that really wasn't addressing what was going on with her. Yeah. Or like, yeah, you have anxiety or you have, but really maybe what they need is a hormone replacement. Maybe they're lacking in estrogen. They're lacking in progesterine. They need some testosterone, whatever, and getting their levels checked.

Yeah. Anyway, I thought it was really interesting. And I felt seen and I felt heard. But I also was like, oh, man, I wonder how many people. are getting divorced during that perimenopause type timeframe. Because they think they just like don't love their husband. Yeah. It's not like it's just, you know, a few weeks of it.

And they're like, okay, I'm done. But if you have a 10 year period and you're not seeking any type of treatment or help for it, that can be taxing on your relationship. Yeah. And I think also I was joking when I was saying like, did you get everybody to watch it? but having men in your life understand that is just as important as having you understand it too because I'm not in parietanepause but you know I've had some hormonal shifts in my life and when you're in it sometimes you know like I'm this is not real life but sometimes you don't

and so it'd be helpful if like your partner or whoever could also see those shifts so they could help minimize the destruction of that because when you're so close to it sometimes you can't see it. They had a husband in the documentary where his wife was sharing stuff like in a confessional type interview and then he was being interviewed as well. And so he, he was like, yeah, it was rough. But also like, I hope men have compassion for that because I know it's people joke about it of like women in their hormones and blah, blah, blah, blah. And especially even having their periods and stuff like that, it is hard. Like it is exhausting. Again, I'm not in perimenopause, but it is exhausting just to have like the normal like monthly mood swings that

to know that like every month you're not going to feel like yourself and have to like wait through that. And then so for you, I'm assuming it can be more during the month or you can go three months and it cannot show up. They mentioned this a little bit and I'm paraphrasing. So don't quote me on to do this. But men go through one change and that's puberty. That's it. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep. That's a good. That's me, Clifford Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Men go through one change, and that's puberty. It's it. We go through puberty. Every month we go through a change, every single month until we hit perimenopause. We still have the monthly changes in. Then we hit menopause. Then there's post menopause. Like we have, you take into account pregnancies, miscarriages. I mean, there's so many different things that we endure where men go through one thing. That's nuts. Yeah, they need to have some compassion.

And I feel, like I said, I feel validated. I'm thankful to have this information now. And obviously with social media, it's sort of like every return now, it's like perimenopause. And I feel like it can feel. Let me see how I can say this better. I don't want to use it as a crutch of like a default of like, oh, Well, this is perimenopause, but even from my golfers elbow, that's perimenopause. Like my ache and my, I know I don't golf, but that's what it's called.

I did get golf pants for Christmas, though. I haven't gotten to wear them yet. They're very cute. They're platt. Do you prefer a pant or a skirt? Well, it was Christmas, so wintertime. I prefer either, but these were really cute plaid pants that I mentioned in passing once to my boyfriend. And I guess he must have ordered them in that moment.

And I'm like, I know there's other things I've mentioned, but that's okay. That's right. That's the one that's because you said golf. And he was like, ooh. He's like, oh, golf. Even while you're like diamond earrings. Must order golf pants. They're very cute though.

Okay. So my golfer's elbow is my perimenopause. But it's like knowing now that hearing other women talk about the different aches and pains that they feel. And we have this validation now. It helps with the sanity part. Yeah. I think of the generation before us where they didn't have that information and they just had all these different physical and emotional ailments.

And they had no excuse. There's no excuse other than like, explanation. Yeah. Like, okay, what's this pain? What's this pain? And almost like, you would think if you went to a doctor and started explaining everything, they'd be like, this woman's a little. Like it's in your head. Like you have, okay, you have everything wrong with you.

Yes. Yes. It feels like everything is wrong with me. Yeah. You know, there's good days and bad days. I mean, it's a good days are harder to find. What's the day? It's where a lot of women, it was sad.

They're like, I just, overall, like, I just don't feel joy. They're like, it's so, I can't find it anywhere. And they're trying. It's not for lack of trying. And they have things to be happy about. And they're not trying to be, like, Debbie Downer. But they're just like, I'm a shell of who I used to be. Yeah.

Everything's gray. And I'm like. So are you feeling that? It made me think of, like, a couple months ago there was this one Monday. I felt great. You said a couple months ago? Yeah. And I was like, what was I doing around that time?

You know, I'm trying to like piece it together. I'm like, was I going to more Pilates? Was I moving more? Was I eating differently? Like, what was I doing? Because I remember that Monday as being like, this is a good day. And I know it was a Monday because we had recorded that day. And then afterwards I went over to my boyfriends.

And I just remember it was on that drive. I'm like, I'm feeling great today. That's the last time I felt great. Your job is a hard job to have all feeling. Why are you looking like that? Oh, well, now that you're finishing your sentence, it feels like my job's hard. Your job is hard. Oh, yeah.

It would be hard for me. With what I feel. Yes. But like, but I do want to say this. On the radio sometimes. But your job is maybe it's not as hard as like brain surgery, but your job would be hard for me. So. But in general, I just don't think I'd be good at your job.

But you have to have a hard job to be going through this. because you just, me saying like when's the last time you, like that Monday months ago, but you can't act like that on the radio and you're on the radio every day. Yeah. And you, I mean, let me be clear. I've had good days. I'm saying that Monday was a great day. Like that I felt really, really good.

And, you know, we've talked about whimsy a lot. And I just think maybe I need to be more intentional about my whimsy because I, but then it's like, why is the whimsy even more difficult? And it's like, we're not. getting any better. It's sort of like if I'm depleted of something, I can't just expect for it to get better. So anyway, I'm seeking out help. I'm going to find a hormone doctor. I already found one. I just need to make the appointment. And I've had my blood work done before, but then I don't follow through, just classic ADHD. But then I want to go, actually, where I had it done,

I don't know that they would have been able to specifically guide me. Like, I want like a female. I want you to know. I want you to experience what I'm talking about. Because if I go to a man and be like, you, it's nothing against men. I love men. But they only go through one change. Yeah. I'm one of those people who's like, you don't have to, like as a therapist, I don't have to, like, go through everything to be able to help my clients. True.

And, and sometimes it helps. Sometimes it helps. So I get that. If there's a possibility for you to have a female, I think you might be able to get a different level of compassion. that just wouldn't be accessible to a guy because you can't explain it no to the full extent yeah okay well that's really good times good times fun and what else have you been doing i've been reading a lot this is my year of reading and i've been reading so much or listening on audible and reading and i am thoroughly enjoying it and it's so funny because cat and i'll tell this to the listeners

can i tell them about beach read of course well you're because your memory Because one thing that perimenopause is like memory is like, I can't remember anything. Do you think this is a sign? I don't think you're perimenopausal yet, but I was talking about when Emily Henry's book, Beach Read and how I'm not really, it's not my favorite. Like her other books I have really, really enjoyed, happy place and book lovers I loved. And then Beach Read, I'm like, me. And what would you rate it out of five? Me?

Out of five. Yeah. Like if you were on good. reads. What would you rate it? Okay. Three. I'm not reading a book that somebody gave a two point five. Okay. Three. I'll give it a three because it's not totally terrible. It's just meh. But I give like book lovers and happy place a five for the rom-com category. You gave them a five? For the category? That means your three is really a two. Really? You what you wouldn't give a good rom-com book a five? Okay, well, I can't speak on those books, but I wouldn't give either of the Emily Henry books that I read a five.

They're good stories. I just wouldn't give them a, I would give them a four. Okay. Which is still pretty high. I go for the category, but also the Nightingale for historical fiction, five. Right. But how would you compare that nightgale to Emily Henry? You can't compare them.

They're totally different. Like how I would compare them is in book lovers. There's a sister relationship. and in Nightingale there's a sister relationship, and both books made me want to call my sister. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. So that's how they're the same to me.

Okay. Okay, well, back to Beach Read. Oh, yeah. So Kat's like, oh, my gosh, I read that. And then you were like, wait a second. I don't, I think I read that, but I don't really remember anything. I'm like, yeah, that's because it's not any good. What's in my audible.

So if I download it and used my one credit a month, because I take those credits very same. seriously, I had to have listened to it. I would not waste a credit. I wait until the six of the month so I can get that new credit. But I don't remember reading it at all. Yeah, well, then later you determined, like, oh, I haven't read it. I thought you determined you have not read it. Oh, I determined I don't know if I did. Because it says. But I gave you all of like the key, I gave you everything that would trigger a memory. Right. So like, what was I going through? In life? Yeah. Like where you just coasted through and listened to something. You know how

sometimes when you read a book, you read a page and you don't remember what you read. Oh, yeah. I think I was like that the whole time I was listening to. I was like, when I was giving you all the little things that happened, I'm like, surely you remember this part. I don't want to say it in case someone's like, I just got B-treat in the mail and you just gave play-by-play of the entire thing. I just wonder why I downloaded it and didn't read it.

I don't know. That is weird. But now I'm going to have to listen to it because I've used a credit on it. Yeah, and I don't, maybe you'll love it. Maybe you'll love it. Maybe it'll be right up your alley. Okay, let's get to the things to say instead of it will be okay. Because like even with my paramedopause stuff, you might be able to be, well, it'll be okay. There is a time and a place to hear it's going to be okay, especially if you know what's going to be.

You know, like, I don't know if you break your leg and you're going to be able to walk again one day. Yeah. We know it's going to be okay. But then there are times and we don't really know the outcome. And what made me think of this, and this is kind of like old news, but a couple weeks ago with the ice storm, so much was going on. People, you didn't have power. And so I was like, oh, you know, like, what do you say to people when they don't have power and you don't know when they're going to get back? Well, yeah, let's clarify this because Kat had power the whole time.

She had power, Wi-Fi. Yeah. Cryo Cat had it. Shannon's in here. She had it. Everybody in this room was living large. and I was like in the 1800s. With my book. I was reading.

By candlelight. Yes. And that's honestly how I got to. Someone was like, I don't think that my reading is going to stay at this pace for the year. But I think I was able to get ahead on reading because there were several hours, like many, many hours that I was just laying by the fireplace reading. Because I had nothing else to do.

Exactly. Well, at least you had those books. I tried to prepare and charge my Kindle and my Kindle. and my Kindle is, I guess, broken. I wouldn't charge. I couldn't charge. This was before the storm. Okay.

If anybody has any tips, let me know. Anyway, so I was thinking like what, it would be helpful to have these for at any time, but also the next time there's a natural disaster like this, of what is helpful to hear outside of it's going to be okay when we don't know because that can actually really invalidate somebody or, I don't know, sometimes it makes me mad like gives me a little rage and I want like you don't know that or that's not

helpful like I want it's almost like when you ask the question what does this make possible a little too early you know yeah so I have a list of five this is not a comprehensive list but you know it's digestible are you ready ready the first one is just saying something like validating so gosh that sounds really hard and these are simple so these aren't going to be like mind boggling And I think that's something to think about. Often when we want to say it's going to be okay, it's because we're uncomfortable and we want to make that person feel more comfortable

or we want to say something because it's uncomfortable to sit in the unknown. I feel like any of our male listeners right now, this would be a good one to keep in your back pocket if your wife is hormonal or anything like that. Because you can't understand it because remember you only have one change. Yes.

One. Puberty. You could be like, gosh, you have so many hormone things. is happening all the time. That sounds hard. Okay. I was like, where are you going with this? Gosh, you're a lot right now. Or just like, gosh, this sounds hard to navigate the gate for you and for me. Yeah. I'm just kidding. Leave that part out. Just end the sentence early. But yeah, that sounds hard. Gosh, that sounds hard. Period. Because that to me, when I'm struggling with something, it feels good to be

like seen in that way. For somebody be like, yeah, you're not being dramatic. Like, that does sound really hard. So very simple goes a very long way. Got it. Okay. Number two. Now this is twofold when we're going to get to the second part later, but asking somebody what do you need from me right now? And this is in the context of if somebody is talking to you and you don't know like they're wanting advice. You don't know if they just want to vent. You don't know if there's a task that they could do.

So saying, asking before giving any other information out before saying it's going to be okay because maybe that is what they want to hear, that could be the answer. I just want you to tell me it's going to be okay. but they also might just say, I just want you to listen to me or I just want you to sit here. Now, I'm going to skip to the next one because it's piggybacks off this. Because sometimes when you ask people what do you need, you don't know. And that can be very overwhelming. So if somebody says, I don't know, then one, you can do this, but two, you don't even have to ask the question to do this.

You know somebody's struggling and they're overwhelmed. just say like, hey, I'm going to come drop cookies off at your front door. Or I'm at the grocery store. I saw your favorite, whatever. I'm picking some up for you. Or I got too much of chicken. So I'm bringing you some enchiladas and I want to put them by your front door or something like that. Or I'm coming over with a movie.

I really want to watch it. Let's watch together. You just do something. They might want to be left alone. That's what I was saying. Wow. You just showed up and you're going to watch an entire movie with them. That depends on the person.

There's some people that I'd like, don't come in my house. Yeah. But then there's, you know, there's some people, like the type of friends that can just walk in your house and like hang out. Like that might be okay. And you're probably close enough to be like, hey, can you just drop the movie? Yeah. I need to be alone.

Yeah. Okay. So that's one, two, three. Four is saying something normalizing. So that can be as simple as just to me, it sounds like you're having a human reaction to what's going on. Because like I said earlier, sometimes people feel like, there, which I don't know if you felt like this. I feel like you, you, I'm just going to say it,

you kind of minimized what you were going through with the no power. Really? I think so. You were like, yeah, me and Stevenson can see her breath. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Well, that's the day. I was like, no, to be clear, when he said, no, okay. So we had spent a few nights in the house, in the cold and we had invites to go elsewhere. I just was really being stubborn about that because I kept thinking also, the power's going to come back. And then like day three, it's like, oh, or day four, maybe, because we lost it. So we spent Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night.

And it was Wednesday at like about 5 p.m. that I decided to leave. So we were about to spend our fourth night in the cold. And Stevenson was like, Mom, I can see my breath. like I'm cold and I was like okay yeah me too buddy okay so and I hit my breaking point at that moment I know that I was laughing about it but also in that moment I was crying okay I didn't see the tears I was sitting by the fire and trying to figure out so then I wanted to start even though we had offers to go places I started calling hotels and I think it was just that I come with like a kid and a dog and a cat

yeah and like with me just a lot so And I wasn't going to leave my cat. And then my friend was at a hotel down the street. And she was like, yeah, there's all these animals there. She's like, honestly, it's kind of chaotic. And I was like, oh, that sounds exhausting. Like, it just seems easier to just bundle up and stay here. But I was sitting by the fire and then I started crying.

And then Stevenson saw me crying. And he came over and he put his arm around me. And he was like, Mom, because I was thinking at that point, he would maybe go to his dads because his dad had power. Could he have not taken the animals? He could have. But we could have. But Ben has a good.

Like, Ben has his own life in a relationship. Like, I'm not going to be like, can you take my cat? Like, no. Not in a million years ever. Okay, Kara's kind of his. Yeah, he would take the dog. He took the dog eventually. Okay.

Because eventually the kids went back to be with Ben. Yes, he would take the dog. Okay. So, where was I? Oh, so I'm calling hotels and then everywhere's full. And so then I'm crying. And then Stevenson comes over. Oh, he was going to leave me.

Because I'm like, you should just go. and then I'll stay with the pets. And then when I saw me crying, he came over and he was like, Mom, I'm not leaving you. And I was like, well, that's really sweet. However, I can handle this and I want you to be warm. I think I'm just, I've hit the emotional wall of this. Like, this is all, we're okay. Like, we have a fireplace. We have a gas stove. Like, we have candlelight. Some people didn't even have that and they were in their homes. Like, I cannot even imagine. And they weren't leaving. And they also maybe didn't have invites or options. I was being just, I didn't want to inconvenience people. So anyway, then I'm talking to Shannon and she's like, Amy, you are coming. Like, and so

then we went upstairs and we packed our bags. And Shannon has a cat, so that was good. And she knows Kara and the kids. Like everything just felt more comfortable. And so Stevens and I just ran up because it was about to be dark. It was five o'clock. And we were able to lose sunlight. And I I didn't want to have a pack by candlelight. So then we threw stuff in a bag and we left. And I was very thankful of that. So then we spent three nights at Shannon's and it was so cozy. Thank you, Shannon.

There's lights and heat. And it just, it worked, everything worked out even though I had offers. Because it's even like, okay, cryocats like, the cryocat has two dogs. One of the dogs is okay with it. The other dog not. And then I had other invites where they literally were like, you can come, but not with the cat. Oh. Which I understand.

Like people are allergic to cats. Some people just hate cats. Yeah. Cats dogs would kill my cat. So. Okay. Well, then you wouldn't want. There's lots of reasons.

Like it wasn't just like, you know. So I want one of my friends, I'm pretty sure her husband was like, no, I don't do cats. Okay. But if there is a cat to be had, Maggie's sweet. She just like, she doesn't do anything. Yeah. A win is a win. A win.

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Or how difficult Wednesday was. It was a Wednesday. I'll never forget. It just like that Monday. It happened on a Wednesday. It was a Wednesday. I just, I can't remember certain things, but I do know I felt extreme joy on that one Monday. Yeah.

Well, it sounds like on that Wednesday I finally caved. It sounds like you were reacting very normal to your experience. Yes, I was having a normal reaction to my experience. So that is number four is to normalize a family's experience. And I'm glad that you did find warm. Thank you. Me too. And that I accepted.

Yeah. That's another thing for people. I don't know why sometimes it's so hard to just accept like because I would say it and mean it. It's not that I don't think people mean it, but it's just more of like the, why don't get in their way? Yeah. Like I think some people say let me know if you need anything and don't mean it. It's just like a thing to say. So I don't want to like.

Do you think like in their mind they're like, let me know you mean anything in their head. What I just say? Mean anything. I don't know what words just came out of my mouth, but they might say. yeah, let me know if you need anything. And then they get in their car and in their mind, they're like, let a sure hope you don't. Yes, I do. And I think I don't, I might not be immune from that. It depends on who it is and what it is. But that has become like just a thing to say. And that's why I think when you, when people are like, hey, I'm bringing this over. It can be

more helpful. Because like you, if I would have been like, hey, Amy, I'm coming over to pick you up. I would have gotten here and you would have gotten in my car. Right. And I, gotta say, I didn't invite you to my house. You had guests. I know, but you still did later. Okay. You did when I was already at Shannon's. Okay, okay.

I was like, I feel bad. I would have let your animals come and I'm not an animal person. We did have a dog at our house. No, no. You texted me and said, hey, we have a room open now. Oh, I did. If you want to come. And I'm like, already settled in at Shannon.

Okay, okay. Who house like, oh my God, bad friend. No, but also, I mean, Shannon is five minutes. Her house is like five minutes for my house. work. I work with her already. Like there was a lot of that made sense because even during the day, like with kids and pets and like it just made sense. You live other direction, but I would have been grateful. If I was the only house available, you would have come. Yes. Okay. But it's better to just show up if, but that's if you know the person is going to struggle to accept help. So it would have

been more helpful for me just to show up or to like if I had a generator like come bring it to your house versus do you want my generator because who knows you would have been like no fine we're just camping yeah I would have I actually don't know if I would have like I would have to you like it seems like a lot of responsibility to like fill it up with gas it is a lot of work yeah yeah um I was like but I think what it's helpful because sometimes I struggle to accept things when people are like, I'll do this. I'm like, I'm fine. Think of it as you're taking away an opportunity for your friend for them, right? Like, it feels good to help people. So when I allow somebody to help me, I'm not burdening them.

I'm actually giving them a gift. Robbing them of the opportunity to support you and show up for you. Which then can bring them joy. This makes you think of when my mom was sick and we had like a revolving door of people at my sister's house because that's where we had host. And the house was full of people, quite honestly. And my sister and I spent most of the time by my mom's bedside. And my sister had four kids herself. And I wasn't a mom yet. My husband was in Afghanistan at the time. Like, there was just a lot going on. And people, some of the people that were the revolving door, though, would just like walk in, grab all the dirty clothes because my sister had four kids,

take the laundry to their house, wash it and bring it back, folded and clean. Like they didn't even ask. And they didn't even run the laundry there. They just, they were like, put it in trash bags and left. That's the way to do it. They weren't in the way. And that was my sister's community. And that's how they showed up. And I was like, oh, wow, that's really cool. So good idea. If you don't know what to do for somebody that can, you don't have to bring a movie and make them watch it with you. You can do their laundry. Shannon just typed in our doc. She said the first time I asked Amy to come over to my house during the storm, she said she didn't feel like dealing with manually opening the garage door. Which is true.

I'm like, this seems like a lot of work. You're like, I will get hypothermia before I open the curve. Right. Well, because then I was going to have to look up. And then Bobby had called and was like checking on me or whatever. And he was like, well, I just had GPTed how to. How do you fix his water heater or something? Because they were inviting me over too.

And I was like, it's really not that hard. It's not. It seems more difficult. To me, it seems difficult. So then I was like, oh, that's smart. So then I just Googled it. And it really was like, oh, this is easy. And then Stevenson helped me and he had to get up on a stool and we couldn't get us to stay.

But then he held it up with the stool and then I backed out. And then we were good. But the thought of that seemed so. Oh, it seemed easier to just stay in the cold. No, I get it. That's like sometimes when you're like laying down and you're like. But I'm glad I learned because it's really not that hard. Sort of like maybe I would learn with a generator.

It's not that hard and it actually could come in handy. Yeah. I guess I've never thought about opening the garage door manually. But in a tough situation. you're forced to figure it out. Speaking of hot water heaters, we ran out of hot water for about four hours. Oh, tragic.

Your troubles. During the ice storm? It froze, I guess. Oh, my. So, Patrick took a shit. So hard. So I felt some pain. But then my dad came over and fixed it.

It was just frozen. Oh, your dad who's alive. Okay. I take it back. I wish my dad was alive. Okay. Well, my dad also is your dad now, okay? That's true.

Your dad, he helped me with my water heater. Oh, really? That's what it was? Yes. A couple weeks ago, I had no hot water. And then I thought, it was a plug thing because it's plugged in in the garage. And so I thought it was a breaker thing. But he said, go around your garage and look for an outlet that has a reset button.

And he's like, it'll have a little light. hit the reset button and see what happens. Sure enough, I walk around the garage and I see an outlet. It has a reset button with a little light and I hit it and then wouldn't you know. Wouldn't you know? The outlet over in the other corner started working that the water heater was plugged into. Isn't it weird like how you would know like how to fix everything? I was like this is exactly like you and my dad are the same. Like I'm so glad. I was like I'm adopting you and he said okay. And then he left his sunglasses here as a momentum. Well, that was on the phone one day. He left his sunglasses here when he came and sprayed the mold in my bathroom.

Oh. With Clorox. Bleach. He showed me how to do it. I was like, oh, that's easy. Which I'm not living with mold, by the way. However, I had a little leak in my roof and it caused a little mold, but thankfully it hasn't spread.

So when I cut a hole just to see about the leak, I saw the black mold. And then he was like, oh, I'm going to spray that for you. and then we could patch up the hole. voila. And then that's when he left his glasses. So. Anyway. It is good you have your dad so that. I'm sorry.

You can help your friends. Yeah. No, don't tell you're sorry. I'm the one that made the joke. You brought up your dad and then I made the joke. Okay. I was like, oh, you had no hot water for four hours. And, oh.

Well, I was really just saying that because I thought it was a big issue. This was more like a PSA for anybody. it was just frozen and you can actually fix that by taking a hair dryer and holding it on it. Really? Well, that's what he did. He told me to put like a space heater in front of it, but then he came over and I think he just used a hair dryer. Yeah, he walked into my room as I was like on a Zoom call. I was like, Dad, I'm on a meeting and he just was like, I need a hair dryer.

And I was like, I'm on meeting. But I was very grateful that he fixed that. There was some story in the news of a guy that was trying to like defrost his pipes or something. And he used to blow torch, but it was like near gas. Oh my gosh. It was like not good, obviously. Yeah, we didn't do that. That caused problems.

Yeah. I don't know if you saw this. And then I promise I'll get to the fifth thing. Aw. Memories. Oh, where it all began. Nope. It began to outweigh and now we're here.

Yeah, it did. There was like a video I saw on TikTok or something where somebody's house burnt down because they had like a lithium battery, like a battery from like a, what are those leaf blow or something like that plugged it in their garage. So I went to my house. garage and I unplug them all. Wait, do I have a battery plugged in? Oh my gosh. No. I didn't scare you. But I also didn't fact check this. So this could have been like fear mongering video on TikTok. But I did think like, wait, we have all of our like power tool batteries plugged in.

I had to fact check everything I see online these days. Yeah. Because like there's so much out there and it comes and I'm like, so I take it and then I Google and then I do my due diligence before I freak out. So I should have done that with this before talking about it. No. We can talk about it here because you're also giving a disclaimer of like, so now people can hear it from us and then they can go. Google it. Do their research.

But it's like even something like with the lyrics like this one girl got on a video on Instagram and she was just like talking about the Super Bowl halftime shows. And she was like, I'm not watching the, I'm not going to watch the bad bunny performance because he has a lyric about how he likes them young and some call that predatory but he calls it mandatory. And then she pauses, she goes, oh, wait, that's Kid Rock. And he's the headliner for Turning Point. And I was like, does Kid Rock have a song with those lyrics? So then I go and I Google it. And sure enough, he has a song like, Cool Daddy Cool or something like that. It's from 2001. And the lyric literally was, I like, I like.

them young some call it hold on i can look it up oh no i like them under age see some say that's statutory but i say it's mandatory cool daddy cool and so i'm like okay yeah so okay it's just funny you for looking that up up before you're telling everybody that that was his song right because what if it wasn't exactly but it was so and it was and it was like geek okay Shannon just found while generally safe with modern smart chargers leaving leaf blower lithium ion batteries plugged in indefinitely is not recommended due to potential long-term degradation. Why that's a what does that mean? Like it makes the battery not as good.

Okay, got it. And minor fire risks. So the risks are minor, but it could happen. And so it's not worth it for me. A family put up at PSA and it was their kid like riding a bike when he was young. I guess before he died. And this I know to be true. I don't know their whole story, but I was like, wow, what a powerful thing.

And it wasn't a commercial or anything. It was just a family, like, it was a reel on Instagram of a PSA of to not store your propane tanks in your garage because they had a propane tank in their garage and it exploded and caught their house on fire. And that was they were able to get out with their other children. And then that child wasn't able to get out. And he died. And so that was just a reminder of like not even keeping them.

Oh my God. Near the house. So like where you store things. And they just like didn't think. I don't know if they didn't know or they just weren't thinking about it. I wouldn't have thought. So that's why they wanted to use their story as a reminder to people because I mean, I see as like a single, like say I got into grilling.

Like Stasheera, my daughter was grilling the other day and she had the propane turned up too high. And the fire like came out when she turned it when she lit it. And it, like, singed her eyebrows. I'm proud of her for figuring it out, wanting to grow on her own. But it's like now she needs to pay attention and no to not have it up high. But that sort of stuff just freaks me out.

Yeah, that's scary. So fifth thing. Yeah. The people are like, what are you talking about? So this is the fifth thing to say instead of it's going to be okay when you don't know. If you forgot what we're talking about. If you don't know if it's going to be okay. A win is a win.

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and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means,

but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come, look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah.

He goes, but there's so much luck involved. Mm-hmm. and he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there.

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So just being present with somebody. I can put the all five things in the show notes, like in a simple. There's somebody like, I can't get to the last one. They're like, I was trying to take notes, but y'all are all over the place talking about things. And then that way you can just have these. Because sometimes it's good to write stuff down and just have it that you can reference. Like email it to yourself or put it in your notes app of like your little folder for like if someone's going through something and you have the urge to be like, it's going to be okay.

You make wait. Oh, wait a second. Before I do that, I could do that with a lot of my therapy stuff. Even with my kids several years ago, there was some stuff with my son. And the therapist we had from at the time was dropping all kinds of gold, like perfect nuggets and like scripts. You love a script. I love a script. It's funny, even my ex-husband knows.

Like, we were on a call the other day with this mentor that we work with. And he was like, can you just give Amy a script? Please, she loves a script. And I'm like, yes, I do. It's just like simple, one-liner things that you can say to help. you hold a boundary. And I need that because if not you start if I start if the floodgate opens it's word salad central over here and I am like digging because I'm uncomfortable and I just start using more words with my discomfort. And then it just ends up being not what you want to say at all.

And then I'm like what have I even said? And now I'm not being clear and clear is kind and unclear is unkind. And the more words I add, unless it's a podcast free form. Of course, in a situation like that, the moral words I add, the worse off we are. Yeah. So I need clear and kind. And I really appreciate a script. But he would give, he had like the best scripts. And I would sometimes in the middle of my parenting situation, I think I've told you

this before, like, I would just pause and like run to my room and like open my computer and pull up some of this stuff. And I'd be like, okay. And then I would know. And I would go back out and I would say it verbatim. But it was like gold because it was the way my son was receiving it. It's like if I said it the exact way, it worked. If I didn't, there was wickle room and it wasn't clear.

And so I was like, I want to say this exactly like he's saying because I don't want to mess it up because he's the expert. So anyways, I'll put these in the show notes. All that to say. Thanks. In case you want one place to find them all. And I really am glad that we gave like solid information, especially because we got a voicemail. And this voicemail is actually really sweet, but it's in reference to another voicemail. Our email. Oh, it was an email. It was an email, yeah. The email we got and we talked

about it during the intro of last week's feeling things of the listener that was no longer listening, the one that said, I know I'm not at airport and I don't need to announce my departure, but I'm done. And I can't remember everything she said, but honestly, the way she described our podcast was like, Yikes, I wouldn't listen either. Oh, you know, our Chick-fil-A order or stuff like that. We're wearing my T-shirts. So hopefully we offered some value here. That's why I'm going to.

We tried. I'm going to throw the five things in the show notes. And we're also now like a little mini book club maybe because this is my year of reading. Well, what book do you want to read together? Yeah. That's what a book club does. Okay. I don't know.

So we have to get on the same. day well okay now I'm getting excited but what if what if we pick a month at some point this year and y'all can email us or leave a voicemail about this or talk about it does anybody have an idea and maybe we have like a big zoom call with anybody that wants to hop on like a virtual book club but we have to get on the same reading yeah we have to pick a month in a book yeah okay well we can work on that are we going to do historical fiction I feel like that would be quite studious of us. Yeah.

It would be expected, probably. Yeah. I'm just kidding. Because of who we are. I don't know. What should we do? We'll take suggestions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like some people, if a lot of books have been out for a while, it's hard. Maybe we need to pick something that's like hot off the press. I wish that you hadn't read the nightingale because I need to be forced to read it. It's so good, though. I know, but I want to read it and not listen to it. Okay. And so, you know, my Kindle's broken. Well, I don't know.

I mean, I guess we could still do it and I could just talk about it. No, no, no, that's not, that's not, that's lame. We need to be both reading it so we can be excited and, like, talk about it at the same time. Okay. So future thing we'll figure out. Yeah. And listeners, if y'all have any thoughts on that, then send it on in. We will close with this voicemail that we got from Heather in Alberta, Canada.

I thought she said she was from Banff. Did I make that up? She said they're close to Vance. Oh, okay, okay. I was like, I didn't make that up. Cool. And I feel like it's just a reminder, yeah, that we're all over the world. Feeling Things is global. Don't we have one listener in Nigeria? We did. I don't know if we still do. It could have been somebody from like Oklahoma that was on vacation. Yeah, I went over there and was listening. But I don't know. Shane, do we have this one lived it?

Okay, perfect. So we're going to play this voicemail. from Heather. So here it is. Hi, Amy and Kat. My name is Heather. I'm calling from Alberta, Canada. We're kind of close to BAMS, if you've ever heard of BAM. And I am calling just because I just finished listening to today's podcast, which was kind of a bit of a mixture of live and a previously recorded episode because of the freezing stuff going on down there.

And I am going to share my feeling. that I am feeling very protective of you too, and mama bearish, and because of the email that you read about the woman wanting to leave and announce her leaving, even though it wasn't an airport. And, yeah, the things that you share randomly and all the giggles you have, that's what I love about your podcast, so it makes me very angry that someone would hold that against you. I love the randomness.

I love that it just feels like I'm listening to friends. I literally laugh out loud when I'm listening. And yeah, through some really difficult drives lately because my dad is in the hospital with some decline due to dementia. And so I have a 50-minute drive to the hospital each time. And I am just so excited whenever I see a new episode because I know it's going to lighten my mood and get me giggling with you. So I just want to affirm that you guys are doing a great job, even if it's just talking about Chick-fil-A or whatever.

I love every minute of your podcast. I hope you have a day you need to have and know that this mama bear is wanting to defend you from afar. Thank you. Have a good day. Oh, I blew it. It's supposed to be how the day you need to have. Okay. I want you to have a good day, though.

There you go. Bye for now. I love that. She seems like a bright light. I want to hang out with her, her attitude. I know. And you didn't mess it up. No, you didn't mess it up.

Because she actually had said how the day you'd have before that. But I do appreciate because sometimes that's how when we're ending the podcast, like we'll say it. And I'll say something else. I'll be like, shoot, we got to do it again. So Heather, it's just like us. And I'm sorry to hear too that you're going through that with your dad. And that, yeah, we can be by your side, like in the car for your drives and be a little distraction from what you have that's going on or maybe even helpful depending on what we're talking

about. So thank you for that voicemail. And what a good reminder for like different strokes for different folks. Like somebody might hate this podcast. And that's okay. We don't need to change it because there's also people that like it and not everybody is going to like anything. Yeah. So thank you for that. Yeah. What are all the different strokes for different folks? Not your cup of tea. Are there more? Not your Can't date everybody Your flavor of the month Are there more sake?

You could just make anything up Right Not your How you like your meat cooked Some people like it well done Some people like it rare Unless you're eating ground beef Of course or a hamburger

You're always supposed to get it well done Period My niece married a meat scientist Wait, so a steak? No, not a steak, a hamburger because it's ground meat. A steak is a cut of meat. Wait a second. Are you saying if you're eating ground meat, it needs to be well done?

Yeah, I'm saying that. Yeah, that's what I said. I am. That makes me feel good because I like everything well done. And, well, I say medium well, but I really in my heart usually want it well done. Like on a hamburger? I want a steak well. No, I know.

but steaks is up what we're talking about. But like, yes, when people ask you how you want your burger cooked, I'm like all the way. And that's what you should say. But then why? If you value your life. Okay, that's good to know. I wonder. My nephew in-law.

Your nephew in. My niece married a meat scientist. And he stands by this. If you're eating ground meat, which is what a hamburger patty is made from. Now, obviously, if you're doing like ground meat to put in your pasta sauce, you're going to cook it all the way through. Same should be true of your hamburger patty. Because of all the bacteria, when it's being ground together, it's getting all ground together. When you have a contained piece of meat, like you can see, like nothing else is mixing in.

Nothing's getting in. But the ground, it's a totally different situation. And he was like, you would never catch me. And he's like a big beef guy. He probably eats steak that is, you know, rareish. Like he loves a good piece of meat. But if he's eating anything ground like a hamburger, he's a cute. will never see me eating anything that is not well done. Thank you for this piece of information.

I've had him on the Bobby Bone Show before. Next time somebody asked me if I want, how I want my burger cooked, I mean, like, the right way. Well done. Yeah. You just be like, all the way. It shouldn't even be an option. Yeah, you're trying to kill me. Should I tell them, like, well, according to meat scientists, it should always be well done. And then they'll be like, okay. Like, whatever. Does Patrick get on like rare or well done? He gets his like steak, medium rare but i'm talking about steak i know i'm giving you the whole picture okay be patient with me sorry um you know if we get this email like i'm not listening to your podcast to figure out how cat's husband orders his steak literally nobody cares but i'm going to tell you um well i asked

how he gets his hamburger but i feel like when they asked that he probably says like medium or something one time recently he got a burger i won't say where but i was going to take a bite of it and i was like you need to send that back but then he was like fine with it why because it was bleeding well like it was raw i know but some people like their burger that way oh he ate it yeah but then he later was like yeah it wasn't done all the way i'm like oh my gosh i would you would never catch me eating a pink burger but i'm also again very picky so i try not to be too judgy because i'm not adventurous with my food, but now I feel more rooted and like, I'm doing it. Well, I'm done. I'm going to live. I'll live longer than you. I don't want to get poisoned. Well, also, food, if you get food poisoning

from that, I wouldn't want that. I came across this one video, not to be like a fearmonger, but, you know, it's like all natural. Like if you, on anything, it's like, well, this is natural. Yeah. And like, it falls into the category of natural. And it's like, natural isn't always good. Right. Like when people were like, that's the way the cavemen did it. And it's like, well, we've evolved. We shouldn't do it that way. The mold in my bathroom that your dad sprayed with the chlorox is natural. Like, just because something says it's natural doesn't mean we need to be taking it. And even with the perimenopause stuff, you know me. I love a good natural supplement. Yeah. You know, I feel like after I watch a documentary, they're like, guys, the only way you're going to help this is like with hormones. Yeah. Like,

sure. You can like eat cilantro and see what happens. But like, like, it's time. It's probably not. So like just before you go spending a bunch of money and I'm someone who I have spent money on certain things. And I'm like, oh, dang. Shoot. It was never going to help. Yeah. And then it's hard because we're inundated.

And then if I do it and I like it and I think I'm seeing a difference for myself, like I don't mind talking about something if I feel like I've had a good experience. But then I don't know. It's just hard. It's hard. It's rough out there. Get your hamburger cooked. Yeah. Cook it all the way and have the day you need to have.

Yay. Okay. Bye. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,

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