The Bobby Bones Show - FEELING THINGS: Breakups, Yam Pellets & How to Sound More Assertive
Episode Date: April 5, 2026Amy is feeling full of anticipation and Kat is feeling confused by a couple of things. In addition to Amy opening up about her hormone journey (including a rice-sized yam pellet that’s now in he...r hip), she also shares some details about her recent break up. Plus, they go over the adverb habit that is quietly watering down things you say (therefore making you less assertive!) and habits that are making people look unprofessional. Get some Feeling Things merch by clicking HERE! (FeelingThingsPodcast.com) Sign up for the Feeling Things newsletter HERE! Watch us on Youtube HERE! Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: heythere@feelingthingspodcast.com HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // threecordstherapy.com // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you ever have feelings
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This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat.
Happy Tuesday.
Welcome to Feeling Things.
I'm Amy.
And I'm Kat.
And my feeling of the day is anticipation.
I am full of anticipation.
Because let me tell you, in about two weeks or so,
apparently I'm going to be a whole new person.
Whole new.
In what ways?
Well, I'm already halfway there to this new person that I'm going to feel like because I've started my hormone replacement therapy, which a lot of it I'm trying to do through food.
But we got my blood work back and my doctor was like, look, I can intervene with some other things that are just going to help kickstart you and sort of put you to the front of the line and then you can maintain with food.
But she's like, it's going to take a minute.
And we can be patient and you can do that.
or I can put a yam-based rice-sized pellet into your upper butt hip area,
and it'll slowly release plant-based testosterone into your body.
But it's just like putting a little piece of a vegetable inside of your beauty.
I guess so.
I mean, in layman's terms, yeah.
It's a very saturated piece of vegetable.
That's slowly releasing.
Well, I mean, I don't know that it's not a piece of vegetable.
It's not a medical podcast.
I do know that it is a yam-based pellet. Do your own research. Do not listen to me on this. But I have done testosterone cream in the past. And I do think that it helped me. But I told her I didn't mind the cream. But she was like, look, they've come a long way with the pellets, the type of pellet that I use and how I sort of engineer the pellet to work specifically for you and slow release. Like you're not going to get too much. She's had a bad experience with pellets, certain types of pellets in the past.
but this particular pellet she's all about.
And she's a gynecologist that also has a pharmaceutical background.
So I like too that she knows a lot about anything she's prescribing for me.
And I have the pellet in my butt right now.
Can you feel it?
No.
Well, I don't know because I say, no, just moving around and sitting.
No, but I still have the bandage on it and I get to remove the bandage tonight.
So right now, if I rub my.
hand over it, I feel the big, thick, padded bandage.
Well, I mean, can you feel like if the pain's like sore or something?
Like when you're sitting down on your butt, does it kind of hurt?
No, no, it's not tender to the touch.
She did have to numb the area before inserting the-
That's shocking to me because I did see the bandage.
And this is not to scare anybody, but it looks like it would be painful.
Right.
There's some blood.
Just a little bit.
And then she's like, I want you to keep this bandage on for four days.
and no Pilates because she didn't want me doing squats
while the pellets still finding its home, I guess,
because if I were a squat, it could like move the pellet.
It goes somewhere else.
Yeah, and they need the pellet to settle in right where we put it.
So all I've been able to do is just walk, no squatting.
And I was like, hey, don't have to tell me.
Darn, I guess I can't go.
You've been loving your Pilates.
I do love my Pilates, but I welcome to the break.
The break.
Sometimes I feel like I have Pilates pressure because I bought a package.
And so I feel like I want to, it's not, I don't have pressure to work out for my well-being.
I'm like, I got to get my money's worth.
Like if I go four times a week, that means each class is this much money.
Yes.
Done that before.
Done the math.
And it feels good.
So I've got the pellet in my bottom that will hopefully get me up to a 70 where I need to
be.
Like there's different ways to measure testosterone.
The way she's measuring mine, I have 10.
And she would like to see most women.
depending on who they are in their body type structure, I don't know, height, weight, whatever,
anywhere from 70 to 200.
And I'm at 10.
Oh, so you could be at 200.
No, she doesn't want me to be at 200.
I might grow a beard.
I don't think she wants me at 200.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You might not know the answer to this, but age-wise, is 70-based anything to do with your age?
or is it? I think it's just normal female. Like to feel, when I say normal, it's what helps you feel
your most normal. Okay. Because when you're low on testosterone, you are more fatigued, low libido,
brain fog. So do you have low testosterone when you're pregnant? I don't know. Because I feel this.
I think you are, you're growing a human in your body. So brain fog and fatigue would make sense. But I, I actually have
never been pregnant. So I don't know what hormones are fluctuating. And let's be honest, even if I had
been pregnant, I probably wouldn't remember. Yeah, that's fair. I'd be like, it's one of those.
Testosterone, estrogen, progesterone. So I am just over the moon excited about what is in store for me
once my testosterone gets up to at least 70. I mean, shoot, I might start feeling better if I hit 50.
Yeah. Because I'm at 10. And then I will say when I did the cream, and this is the different doctor
And the reason why I know people measure it differently is because I remember her telling me I was like at a three or something.
And I don't know if it was the same measurement.
But then I was talking to my friend Gracie the other day.
And she was like, yeah, I'm at like a point.
Like I had a decimal.
And I'm like, well, there's no way the measurements the same because she would not have a, like she wouldn't even be at a one.
She's at like a point four out of 70.
That can be right.
We need a universal test.
Yeah, measurement.
Yeah.
Yeah. So that's where my T is, my testosterone. My iron is really low and my vitamin D might as well not exist.
Which that I feel like is pretty common. Very common. Apparently every woman is low in vitamin D. So get on that. And the thing is, if I want my body to produce testosterone and naturally through food, so with iron, for example, I'm low on iron. So I need to be eating more beef and spinach.
However, I believe with vitamin D, the same with the iron and the testosterone.
If you're lacking vitamin D, your body's not going to do all the things it needs to do to produce the iron and the testosterone.
So, yeah, they all play a part.
So they all play apart.
So my pellet is just jumpstarting me.
And then hopefully I can get my body, I keep in my mind, I'm just going to invite you into my mind.
Like right now, like just ready to.
I'm just ready.
Maybe because she described it as.
like a car and there's four key things she's looking for and three of the four of my tires are
basically flat.
Oh, that's a good metaphor.
Yeah.
So I've got one working tire and then my vitamin D, my iron, which is also attached to my thyroid
and my testosterone are flat tires.
So I'm hitting the road every day, hitting life, going out into the world with one working
tire.
Well, think about how functional you are.
That's why I'm full of.
anticipation.
Yeah.
Wouldn't that be your feeling?
A hundred percent.
I feel like I was about to be like a superhuman and I could like lift a car or something.
But also.
But in two weeks, if you feel like I'm the same, just don't keep it to yourself.
I won't say a word.
But also I wonder if you're going to have this feeling of like, oh, I've been doing it
this way for so long and I didn't need to.
Because, you know, a lot of times people are high achieving because like they don't have
any other option inside their brain, right?
Like a lot of people with ADHD feel that way.
Like I had a doctor one time tell me like, well, if you have ADHD, how did you get good grades in school?
Almost like saying I was like making stuff up.
And it's because emotionally and mentally I didn't have a choice.
So you just like go the extra 17,000 miles and run yourself into the ground when you realize that it didn't have to be that hard.
So I wonder if you're going to have that feeling of like, I've been doing this and it didn't need to feel that hard.
I'm very excited. Okay, well, I'm excited too and I'm going to encourage you in your new life
journey no matter what I see happening. Okay. My HRT. So two two weeks from now, we're going to check
it. I would like to say, I've got to get some iron infusions. So once the iron gets in me,
because I've already started taking my vitamin D thing,
which is one capsule.
I take it one day a week.
So every Thursday,
I'm going to be taking my 50,000 units of vitamin D.
And then I also need to be getting sunlight as well.
Yeah.
Carefully.
Carefully.
Responsibly.
Yeah.
When the UV rays are low.
So are you going to not wear a hat when you go out?
Like, how do you...
I don't really know my plan yet.
But I think I can responsibly.
get a little bit of sun. It's not like I have to go out there and peak hours, peak tanning hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just be outside. I can go morning, afternoon and just be out there for a little bit.
Yeah. Okay. Again, this is not, we're not a medical podcast. Talk to your doctor.
People are listening, you're like, yeah. Don't worry. We wouldn't take medical advice from you.
All good. You're safe. We never thought it was. We are mental health minded, though. So what's your
feeling of the day? I'm feeling.
confused for two reasons, actually. And both have to do with the internet. Because I've just learned
on another level, things are not always what they seem. One, I tried to put wallpaper up in my
powder room this weekend because TikTok convinced me that it was really simple and easy and I could do it
on my own. And I have, honestly, I have no words, but the people that are making peel and stick
wallpaper content, are you guys lying or am I stupid? It's what I want to know. I don't know because
I've never done it. I personally would never put myself in that situation. That sounds like a nightmare.
I mean, the last room I had wallpapered, I hired somebody because I was like, yeah, I can't do this.
But then I kept seeing people do it and showing tips and tricks and it looked so easy.
And then I started doing it and I was like, this is not for me and this will ruin my marriage if we continue.
So what are you all going to do?
I'm going to call the lady that wallpaper in my dining room, which we want to wallpaper
the nursery too, so we'll have her come do both.
But in the meantime, my powder room looks a hot mess because it has like one and a half
panels of wallpaper.
We ripped a hole in the wall.
Yeah, is a whole thing.
So that's one reason I'm confused.
The other thing I'm confused is I got hit with dry brushing content.
you're familiar with us right yeah yeah and i've previously just like swipe past that but like for some
reason it was a little interesting to me maybe now that you're with child yeah and i think because
maybe because i can't do my vibration plate oh can you not do that while you're pregnant i don't know
um i think you like shake it around i don't think that would be good for her wait speaking of
you know Courtney cook on instagram Courtney cook sweet sweet
Is she pregnant?
No, but she was making eggs the other day and she was, because you know, she always has
marinated eggs or whatever they're called.
But did you know she has 25 chickens?
Like her eggs come from her chickens.
So anyway, she had this big basket full of eggs and she said she learned on TikTok that you
take a spoon to the egg and you sort of crack the membrane or something.
So before you put them in the water to boil to make hard boiled eggs, you tap it with a
spoon tap tap tap tap and as you're tapping it it's making one swine like one one swine
sorry when you're tapping it it's making one sound like tap tap tap tap and then it'll go teep like
and then when you hear the teep you know you crack the membrane why are we cracking the membrane
i don't know but it made me think you're vibrating your baby and i'm like oh we don't we don't want to
we don't want to crack the membrane we don't want to do that no no no no so you can't
do you can't release your limbs that way so you're curious about releasing it through dry brushing yeah that's
where i guess this is coming from so i was watching videos and i'm not familiar with this again so
if anybody's listening to this and you're like this feels sounds simple and stupid that's because i am new to
this club i bought a dry brush for my face and for my body and this morning i was so excited to do it
it hurt i don't think you're supposed to press hard
You're supposed to press hard at all.
How hard are you?
Well, I don't know that it should hurt.
Well, and I was like kind of scratching.
I think on my arm, there's like a little bit like there were some like red scratches.
Maybe I need to go back and watch the videos because I, the face one was really soft.
Did they have you open up the big six?
Yeah, I did the like, whatever.
But the face one felt really good.
And the face one felt like almost like a makeup, a stiff makeup brush, you know?
But the other one, it, I was like I can't, I can't go through.
with this. I couldn't finish. It hurt. But like, okay, I'm doing it too hard. Maybe it's simple. Maybe you are.
Because it is lighter to the touch than people would think even when you're opening up the big six,
you've got when you're working your lymphatic system, you want to open up like the exits on the
highway. It's sort of like if you had a highway with no exits and you start to do something like
dry brushing or getting on your vibration plate, it has nowhere to exit, has nowhere to go. So it's just
that can cause issues.
So if you open up like under your, like by your collarbone, under your ears, under your
underarms, which we've got a whole segment coming up later.
I just said armpit.
Sorry.
I just said it again.
I mean, we have some listeners that are just as passionate as me when it comes to underarm
and putting on deodorant in public.
So we've got some fun voicemails coming up in a minute.
But your underarms and then your ab area, your groin.
Or what would you call this area?
You're groin.
Growing.
And then behind your knees.
I didn't do the app because I was afraid to, I am being so anxious about my child.
I think you can touch your stomach.
I know, but I was like, I don't want to like, maybe it's because I was taking my skin off.
You know, some people like do it.
I know that.
I feel like the way you're talking, you're like, I'm scared.
I was scared to brush my stomach.
But now it's making sense that like I was doing it way too.
hard that it's but in my head I'm like how is this doing anything if I'm not like putting pressure on
my skin yeah I think that that's the the misconception even with the vibration plate I've heard from
multiple experts keep it on a low level and do only 10 to 20 minutes when I first got it before I was
seeking out help from people that know what they're talking about I'm like well I need level 10 and
I'm going to do this for 30 minutes it's counterproductive yeah so and even when you're
you're opening the big six, like they say over and over.
Like, it's not a hard pressure.
Like, you feel like you might need to press hard to open it up, but you don't.
Like, you just really need to gently tap, tap, tap.
Okay, well, maybe that's the, I'm going to try again.
Pump, pump, pump.
Just you got to be gentle.
Do you do the dry brushing?
No, I've done it in the years past, but, oh, it's been a long, long time, like probably
a decade since I've tried it.
And I definitely didn't know about opening up my lymph system before.
So I probably wasn't even.
doing it properly. The face one I'm probably going to keep doing because it feels good.
This sort of stuff can be overwhelming. Yeah. Like it's just like another thing in my schedule.
So I'm going to do when it feels appropriate and when I have the time, but I'm not going to
get too stuck on it. And I'm going to work on being more gentle. But why don't they just give you a
softer brush? All right. Well, speaking of I was confused, I'd like to follow up on some of your
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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever.
I didn't think I was going to live.
I was terrified.
There was no anything inside those eyes.
They turned black.
it scared the hell out of me.
That was your first murder case?
Yes, sir.
Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career?
Yes, sir.
Rape a murder for a child.
Just as bad as it gets.
I would think so.
Evil, wake up.
I'm the one that saw the murder
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My boyfriend and I broke up. We both were just not in a great place. It wasn't terrible.
We were both having similar feelings of that maybe we needed a break or a breakup. And that's what I
couldn't really figure out. And then we decided to break up. And now that cat's out of the bag.
Because, well, we talked about it on the Bobby Bone Show. And now I can talk about it in more detail here.
which I have something in my hands right now that led to, well, my confusion.
Like, I mean, Kat, aren't you confused by it?
I have to say, when I saw it, it was confusing.
Oh, the price tag is on the bottom.
Oh, no.
Yeah, it wasn't, don't worry.
It's not on clearance.
Kat was like, that must have been on clearance.
It still could have been on a clearance shelf.
We don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that this to me, which I'll tell you all what it is,
I'm holding a coffee mug that was bought at a little store conveniently located next to a coffee shop that we had gone to, which makes me think we just got coffee.
And then he ran into the shop to grab a Valentine's gift really quick.
Was it the day?
Was it Valentine's Day?
Yes.
Yeah, that day.
And then so I saw him and we there was nothing, which I think is an indicator that like it's just not a priority.
And I think we were both feeling blah.
And he had been traveling that week.
get it. Well, clarify this. You saw him earlier and he didn't have anything for you. No. And that's what was
the indicator. And then after the hike, we went to get coffee. And then after coffee, I got in my car and left.
And I guess he pretended to get in his car. And then he got out and must have gone in and bought the
coffee mug that I have. Which, to be clear, I like coffee mugs. Yeah. Okay. So like, I was thinking
about it. I have some coffee mugs that I've had for years from friends. My friend Gracie got me this
cute little A. I love it. It's from anthropology. I use it all the time. It's so cute. You've gotten me
four coffee mugs. Yes. And they're my favorite coffee mugs can be a great gift. Claire got me one
with a piece of toast on it that talks about toast. You know how I went through my big toast?
I still love toast, but I had a season where I was eating toast multiple times a day, all different
types of toast, salty, sweet, yeah, savory, salty and sweet at the same time. Like I was obsessed with
toast so she got me this toast mug that was really funny and cute. And then Claire also got me
another mug that says cat person and it's got these little cat heads on it. And then Ali Fallon
once got me a mug and maybe Gracie was in on it with her too, but it's like these two little
raccoons on a bike and it says born to dilly deli. It's so cute. Anyway, I'm not anti-coffee mug. Okay.
This particular mug, which I think he was maybe doing his best that he could in that moment,
for where we were in our relationship.
This is Valentine's Day, not my birthday.
The mug is pink and in like, what do you call this font?
Chuggy font.
Chugy.
Well, define chugie because...
This is a font.
It reminds me of like early 2000s.
Like, you know how it used to be really popular to have art that had words on it,
like written stuff, like quotes and stuff?
Mm-hmm.
Something you would find, well, I don't want to say.
Well, yeah, nobody, someone might love this muck.
That, and that is okay.
But it's very obviously not your style.
My thing is my boyfriend, whom I love, and he loves me, went into a store and thought,
she's going to love this.
Like, like, well, did we think that?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know that he was in the place, honestly, to really try to get.
get something that even our conversation before we went to the coffee shop, our walk was not a
great walk. Yeah. Because now I have all these feelings because a handwritten note would have meant
something to me. And we didn't have that exchange. So then I'm perplexed. But I get it. If you're in
sort of this weird phase in your relationship, and I remember when I was filling out the,
his Valentine's Day card, I'm like, I don't really know what to say because in that moment I wasn't
feeling all the warm fuzzy feelings that I normally would feel. So I sort of kept it pretty generic.
So I get it. That's what I'm saying. Like I get, I totally understand how this mug happened.
Yes. Yeah. I get it. And this mug also led to me being like, we're done. It was a side.
At this moment, we need a break or we're done. I think this is a breakup because I can tell he's done.
It was almost like subconsciously, his brain was like, this mug.
We'll show her you don't care.
And I feel horrible.
I haven't even gotten to really talk to him about the mug.
And I hope that one day we can talk about the mug.
But I don't know if there's a reason to.
If we have a reason to talk about the mug, I'll bring up the mug.
Because I couldn't have felt less known or seen when I was given the mug.
Because now I'll read to you what the mug says.
This is Valentine's Day.
Okay.
You can't improve with age if you're already perfect.
And it's, again, pink.
And it's got these blue swirly letters.
And so it's Valentine's Day.
I'm not turning 60.
Like it doesn't make any sense.
No.
And there was also some cute pink, warm fuzzy socks.
I have no issues with the socks.
Love the socks.
Give me a pair of fuzzy socks all day long.
but it was almost like maybe they were a set.
Did the socks come with the mug?
I don't know.
I wonder like what kept him from just like going and picking up a bouquet of flowers from like a grocery store like a lot of men do?
Like would that have been as?
I don't know.
I guess I have said over time that I'm not like the biggest flower person, but I'm trying.
I'm trying to be or maybe a plant words.
Yeah.
But I get that at that moment I do have.
compassionate understanding for the fact that maybe words would be hard at that time. Like if you're
at a rocky place in your relationship, it's hard to sit down and profess your love for someone that
you're not viking with. Yeah. And I give grace for that part. Because, yeah, if I had like
walked back to my car and there was maybe a single stem flower, like even in my windshield with a little
note that was like a heart, like that would have been great. Something like that. Something like that.
you know and and on our walk i had i had shared i don't want to get too much in the weeds of like our
very personal stuff but like we've talked about this on this podcast multiple times my primal question
is am i wanted and this mug did not fall into the category of me feeling wanted i felt like
it felt convenient like i'm going to run into this little store right by the coffee shop
and grab this mug. And now I feel a little bit catty talking about it here with you.
This is part of those moments where I'm having regret, like, if he were to hear this. But I would,
these are things I would want to say to him. And he didn't do anything wrong. I get why he bought
this mug. Well, it's also out of character for him. Yes. That's, I get the, the season or whatever
you want to call it, the timing of our relationship, this mug makes sense. And he was doing the best that he could.
in that moment. And I think that's what it showed me. It showed me, okay, this is where our relationship is
right now. It almost, this is going to sound a little weird, but I kind of hear this, is that you getting that
gift, even though that's not something you would have ever wanted and you did not feel wanted by it,
was a gift because it helped give you clarity. Yes. Like you said. Yeah. A couple weeks ago, you had that
quote? What was it? Someone once gave me a box full of darkness. I found out this too was a gift,
which that wasn't a box full of darkness, but it was like, you were like, oh, probably like,
oh, dang it, what? Like, this doesn't feel good. And then also having that experience is like,
oh, this is clarity. Like, this is, he wasn't using his words, but because maybe he didn't want
to acknowledge them. Yeah, that he wanted a break too. Yeah. Yeah. It's like last year for Valentine's
Speaking of flowers, I did get this massive bouquet. I mean, it was the largest bouquet of flowers
that I maybe have ever received. And I got that gold heart necklace that I had, I think
originally sent him, maybe he was asking for Christmas gift ideas and, or maybe my birthday. I don't know,
but he had it and he's ordered it and surprised me with it. So I got the necklace. So yes,
when you say this mug is out of character, and I would hope that that's what he would see too.
I share this as not to be this caddy at all. This mug was information. Yes. And I shared this
because oftentimes we are given information. And it can be very helpful. And in different ways,
information is not always words. Like that was, yeah. Yeah. I have no, I have yet to meet a friend in my
life that isn't perplexed by the mug. So again, it's not about.
that it's a coffee mug or that it's not the price.
Words are free.
And I can't acknowledge that for both of us during that time, words would have been incredibly
difficult.
Yeah.
And I don't know what will happen from here, but this is where we are.
How do you feel like you've been since you guys broke up?
Like how would you characterize the like journey?
It's been hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's been hard.
something was just, I don't know if it's going to work. That's the best way I can put it. Like,
just the vibes weren't vibing as well as they were. And what's crazy is it was so easy for so long. And then we just kept hitting some little roadblocks, which doesn't mean, I think if we were married, obviously, we would really buckle up and commit and go to therapy and figure it out. But we also have such busy lives respectively, like between his kids and mine. And I don't know.
know, I think we'll have to just, well, we made the decision. I don't know. I keep talking about it
as if, well, if it is a break, then we'd have to make the decision to lean into that so we can get
some guidance and clarity on how to move forward. Because I'm not someone, even though I am divorced,
that divorce did not come lightly and I don't take relationships lightly and I wouldn't end a
relationship lightly, but it was easier to just, okay, let's go our separate ways here for now,
because, yeah, we weren't married, which is crazy because a few months before that, we were
talking marriage. We talked about you getting engaged on the podcast. I know. I was sending
you engagement for me. Yes. I mean, it is crazy how it can take a turn. And I'm also like, whoa,
maybe we needed to just pump the brakes for a minute.
it and I've got some stuff I can focus on. My life is way more controlled than it's ever been
in terms of different people having different things going on that can be really disruptive.
I do have some stuff going on that I'm trying to tend to. And maybe it's giving me space to do
that, which I need. And he's well aware of that situation and even gave me his thoughts on it the
other day when I saw him. I've seen him a couple of times even with the breakup. And that's been very
normal and cool. And also hard because. And hard. Yeah. Because I leave and I'm like, oh, okay.
Like he's a good person. Yes. He's amazing. Yeah. Which I think that's helpful for people to hear
because often you hear of these breakups that are toxic or it was very black and white and this one person
hates the other person and that's how it is you don't hear as much people talking about the like
oh we really loved each other and we had to make this hard decision because there was this piece that
wasn't fitting i know it was like when it happened we were we just hugged and then cried for a while
you're like okay i guess this is really happening yeah and that's also so i think that there
this is reminding me of i had a really bad breakup once and then the next guy i dated
broke up with me in the kindest, you know, I've never done the breaking up, I've told you that.
But he broke up with me in the kindest caring. Like I remember he came over and we sat in our bed and
he just, the things he said, I just will never forget where I was like, oh, somebody can break up
with me and still really think highly of me. And that's very helpful. Because I think a lot of times
when people end relationships, one person is asking, well, what's wrong with me? Or what do I
not have or what did I do wrong. And so for you to have an experience where nobody did anything wrong,
right? No. Some of the stuff we were struggling through was legit real concern type stuff, I think,
or frustrations, I guess. I don't know how to put it, because I'm not going to go into the
details of that. Yeah. It's almost like, yeah, if we're this little puzzle, suddenly it's like, wait a second,
what, I thought this piece went here and it's not. It's not fitting. It's. It's not. It's not fitting.
and we're trying to force it.
And should we try to force it?
Because we don't have the bandwidth for that.
We both have a lot going on.
And you shouldn't have to do that.
Like,
I do think there will be a relationship where the pieces do just fit and they keep fitting for you.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't say that it's our puzzles like out the window.
I don't really know for sure.
It's just in the box right now.
Yeah.
It's in the box.
But we'll see.
You know, that's what I've learned from this.
is I don't need to rush it while we were on this trajectory.
It's like it's okay that it's at a pause right now, at least for me to figure out or tend
to some of the things in my life that need my attention.
And I can focus on that and also myself and then still be present for things in his life
as they come up or him mine like with our kids because we're still in communication with
them not a lot it's not excessive or inappropriate just more like hey yeah I'll come to that game
or stuff like that you're handling this very well I do I've already said that to you but I just feel like
this is hard and like you said and you're doing it well thank you you're approaching this in a very
healthy way I'm trying I have therapy on Thursday I cannot wait every day I'm like waiting for therapy
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The cat's out of the back.
Do you know where that comes from?
A cat?
I mean, yeah, there's a cat involved.
No.
But the origin of it is from medieval marketplaces.
I guess farmers and traders, they would be selling these young pigs in a burlap sack or a bag.
And there was some dishonest traders that would try to cheat shoppers by,
putting a cat in there instead of a pig
and they would just take the sack
and they wouldn't open the sack till they got home
and they opened up the sack
a cat would come out instead of a little piglet
and they'd be like
let the cat out of the bag
and then what do you do with the cat
well I don't know if you can go back to the market
and be like you tricked me
this is fraud this is not a piglet
and they'll probably be like I don't know what you're talking about
you bought that bag fair and square
I wonder why they wouldn't look in the bag
Well, I think they had no reason maybe to not trust.
Also, why are the animals in a bag?
I don't know.
A burlap sack?
I don't like that.
I know.
You think maybe you'd look in and just check out what the piglet look like.
I don't know why I keep saying piglet.
But I'm imagining it had to be small, a young pig.
That's probably why I'm saying piglet.
It's a young pig.
Yeah.
Okay, well, thanks for teaching us that.
Yeah, full of those things, you know, little stories, little tidbits.
basically have them coming out of me.
Yeah.
Which speaking of the word basically, you know how I say that word a lot.
Probably I misuse it.
I say basically, literally.
I don't think you misuse basically.
Well, if you do, then I missusing it too.
Okay.
Let me be fair.
I overuse it.
Okay.
I use it when there's no need to use it.
We all do that with certain words.
Literally, just.
The word just.
I was just calling to say.
What I called to say?
Oh.
Or really?
You know the guy we like Jefferson Fisher?
He's a lawyer, speaker, author.
I ordered his book, by the way.
It's called The Next Conversation.
I haven't read it yet because I'm still reading Theo of Golden.
I need to get that book.
Okay.
It's really good.
I'm on Chapter 24.
How far are you?
I feel like I'm about halfway.
That's a lot of chapters.
Yeah. Well, sometimes, to be fair, they're short. Like, no, some are long, but then randomly,
you know, chapter 20 will be a page. Okay. Not even. I can deal that. I'm like, how do they divide
it up? Like, maybe it's like, it's the end of like a thought. I know, but I feel like, how do you
divide chapters? Well, I know that, but some of them feel like they could flow together and I'm like,
and then there's just this one little page for this chapter. Maybe their book quota. They were like,
you have to have 500 pages in 57 chapters, and so you have to, like, divvy it up.
So if you want to sound more assertive, I saw this from him, and it's to stop using
adverbs in your everyday vernacular, like words in an L.Y. And I'm like, well, that would go,
now my conversations are ruined because I use those words so much. But you're not going to
sound assertive. If someone asks you a question, you say, oh, well, basically, da-da-da,
instead of just saying,
that makes sense.
I was going to say,
this is really hard,
but in normal conversation
with me and you,
it's fine.
But if I'm trying to sound
assured of myself
and assertive,
then I,
and strong in my convictions,
I don't want...
To water it down.
Yes.
Like he said,
adverbs water down your speech.
So,
but that's also,
I think,
why sometimes I use them,
because I don't want it
to sound too harsh,
you know?
Yeah,
that's why.
even the word just like think about in emails like oh hey just reaching out yeah and it's like well you could
just say hi reaching out yeah in regards to blah blah blah hey just checking in to see if you know
basically you were interested basically it's wondering really wanted to do it but i don't know if you
literally not that big of a deal yeah it's literally not so shout out jefferson fisher because he had
good nuggets on Instagram that he was sharing from a podcast or something and they kept popping up
in my feed and that's what led to me ordering his book. I think I would I want to read that book too.
That's when you have to like I can't audible that one. I have to read, read it.
Do highlight and like circle stuff and have it as a resource. Yes. Yeah. Well all if.
Well, I do it my own because I'm going to write in it. Okay, that's true. I was going to say you could
borrow mine but now you're talking about and I want to keep it marking it all up and using it as I'm
sure that would be a good resource too for even some of your clients yeah 100% my therapist has a lot of
books in her office and you can like pull from it if you need yeah I do that and then I always am like
katherine you need to get a system because 65% of the time I never see those books again
my d's wife she let me borrow two books and on the inside cover she got I guess she probably
ordered on amazon or somewhere see how I'm unsure so I don't know and I say
things like, I guess she basically maybe went literally on to Amazon.
It's what's crazy as I didn't register any of those words.
Okay, let me say this with assertiveness.
Assertiveness.
But I'm guessing.
She went online and ordered these cute library card insert things.
So assertive.
Assertive when you say thingies.
And put it in the book that I borrowed as if she was checking it out to me.
And I put my name.
Like she said,
she says who she's checking it out to and the date.
Okay.
And then I'm going to give it back to her.
But that makes me more inclined to give the books back to her because she's got a cute
little library card in there.
Which I get.
I love that.
I should do that.
But I need the card in my possession so I know who has the book.
Oh, well, you can do a picture of it.
I'm not going to do that.
Okay.
I just need a piece of paper that says this book and then the client's name.
I think that would solve a lot.
And also, I believe Jefferson to.
clarify. He's talking about sounding assertive when you need to sound assertive. I don't want to
sound assertive with my friends. Right. That would be right. So I will talk basically, literally.
You will literally say literally whenever you want. Yeah, basically. I do have habits that make you
look unprofessional, though, so I could run through those just so that y'all are in the know in case
you do any of this. I do some of these. I haven't looked at this, but I'm going to, oh my gosh,
What's the word?
Assume.
Ooh, brain fog.
Yeah.
Low testosterone.
I'm going to assume I have over half of these because I find it very hard for me to feel
professional.
Okay, let me tell you, but they are.
Okay.
And you just say.
Check.
Check.
Okay.
Okay. Talking too much.
Check.
Oh, you do at work?
Part of you're supposed to listen?
Not at, no, not when I'm a therapist.
Not when I'm being a therapist.
I just mean like in general. I feel like I talk. No, habits making you look unprofessional. So I would assume these are work related. Okay. Okay. Okay. Talking too much. Responding late to messages. Check. You're laughing because you do it too. Same. Saying yes to everything.
No. Good. You've got boundaries. Oversharing personal information. No. Having a messy workspace.
Check.
What?
Yours is not that messy.
I wouldn't call it like organized it.
Well, it's,
the stuff is shoved in drawers.
Okay, how about that?
Complaining all the time?
No.
Always being late.
No.
Making excuses for everything.
No, okay.
This made me feel really good about myself.
Well, you eliminated the,
ugh.
Ding, ding.
Poor communication using words like bro, dude,
and L-O-L.
swearing.
I do that at work.
It depends with the client I'm with.
If they are cursing, then I'm jumping in with...
So on the Madison, which is a show on Paramount Plus,
it's Tyler Sheridan's new show.
He did Yellowstone and Lioness.
Michelle Fife is in it.
I've already completed the whole thing.
I don't want to give too much away.
But I will say there's a therapist in there,
and they drink during the sessions.
What?
What? Yeah. He's in, it's in New York. Obviously, this is a TV show, so it's not real. But he went to Harvard, you know, has a... Wait, how do you mean he's drinking? Like, he's having a glass of wine when he's sitting down with a client or... Whiskey. I knew it was going to be whiskey. Is the client drinking? Yes. He's like here. We, I normally don't do this, but it seems like you're someone where this is what we're going to need to do. And he bust out. Yeah, I think you can like be turning.
in for that. I don't think that that's a ethical. Okay. I thought so. There's no drinking. I will say people
during COVID did try to drink during sessions because they were at home. On Zoom. Yeah. And if I saw
that, I'd be like, we're not doing that. I guess you probably weren't on Zoom. Were you on like a telehealth
portal? Um, some at the beginning, I think I used just FaceTime because it was like new to everybody.
So I had to make, make a waiver and have people sign that it was okay. And HIPAA laws were lenient during
that time. FaceTime's not Hifetime.
hippo, I would never use that now. But they allowed us to do that because we had no other options.
So being too noisy. No. No. Poor hygiene. I hope not. Well, speaking of hygiene, we do have some fun
messages from people. Well, I've got an email and then a couple of voicemails in regards to
my deodorant situation where I cringe when people online.
put deodorant on like in their get ready with me videos or whatever which i was shocked with the
response we got because there's even more than this we're just sharing with y'all these few yeah i
i didn't know this was such a thing for people so this is from jacky hey there i never have emailed
a podcast before but you guys are so cute and so funny and so real love you uh anyway amy i also
cringe whenever someone is putting on deodorant in their posts, I'm like, do I need to see you
putting on your deodorant? Can't some things just be a given? Do we need to see it? Ha, ha, ha. So funny,
you even brought it up. I thought I was the only one signed Jackie in Pittsburgh. Ha,
Ha, ha, Pittsburgh. Because during that episode, how we even started talking about the deodorant
thing was, I don't like the word armpit. I prefer underarms.
I can't let you just said it.
Yeah.
I'm cool.
I'm cool.
I'm casual.
I can do it.
So that's why she's also like,
Ha, ha,
Pittsburgh.
Which that is hilarious.
Yeah.
And then we have a voicemail.
This is from Sam who listens in Boston.
I'm laughing out loud.
I'm listening to the latest episode when Amy is talking about how she's grossed out with people on camera or just in general,
putting on deodor.
in their arm, underarms.
And I swear every time I listen to your podcast, I think, I can't believe they also think
this way.
I feel like I was the only one.
Amy, you're not alone.
I also get very grossed out or just, like, shocked when I see, you know, a vlogger
or whomever put on deodorant on camera.
Even, like, when I change after the gym, at the gym, I always put deodorant on, like,
in the bathroom, not in front of people because I feel like it's such a lot of,
a vulnerable task. So yeah, I just wanted to share that you guys are not alone or Amy. You're not
alone on that. Thanks so much. Love the podcast. Sam, calling from Boston. Okay, Sam, thank you for that.
Yes, it's not just in video. It's in person, too. Like she's saying, even at the gym, she'll go into
the bathroom stall to put her deodorant on. Because for me, let me explain it to you this way.
This is what it feels like. I don't pee in front of people. Well, if you were pee in front of people,
be showing your private parts.
Well, you know, there's ways you could maneuver to where you wouldn't really see the private
parts and you could have the camera.
Like, you, getting rid of bodily fluids feels very different than you putting on a little
sprits or a spray on your underarms.
No.
I don't, I like that she used the word vulnerable.
Like, it feels like a vulnerable task.
Yes.
I just don't have that experience.
But now I'm wondering like, I mean, I don't think that I regularly do this.
I don't know that I ever put deodorant on in front of people.
But now I'm wondering, like, have I in the past and did I make people comfortable?
Well, I don't know.
Have I put deodorant on in front of you?
I don't think so.
And you were like, oh, gross.
Get out of here.
No, I don't think so.
And we're close enough to where I don't know that it would bother me if it's you.
but if I'm, you know, at the gym or in a public place, I'm going to, yeah, go around the corner and do it.
Well, speaking of putting on Deonor in public, our next voicemail is from Jen.
She's calling from Houston, and that's what she's talking about as a teacher.
Hi, Amy and Kat.
This is Jen from Houston, and I am calling in regards to the axila, where neither armpit or underarm,
bother me, I've used them both. What does bother me is people putting on deodorant in front
of you. I am a high school teacher and there are sometimes when students in class will lift up
their shirt and apply deodorant in the classroom with everyone visible, they're visible
so everyone could see myself included. And it just seems like you are interrupting
an intimate moment. There's just something about it. So I'm totally with you on that. I don't understand
how people do that in public. It does give me the creeps a little bit. So I'm just sharing that I feel
the same way. Love your energy. Have the day you need to have. Bye. Yeah, two thoughts here. One,
she moves from the word vulnerable to the word intimate. So now this is an intimate act.
I know. Sam thought it was vulnerable. And Jen is calling it.
intimate. See, maybe that's what it is, is we have it in a different category. Yeah, different
folks. We don't have it as face lotion and whatnot. But I have it as face lotion. Yeah. You're like
it's deodorant. But also, I wouldn't be putting face lotion on in the middle of class at school.
And I wouldn't, it is interesting that these kids are just putting deodorant on in the middle of class.
Like, why would they need to in the middle of class? Well, I feel like they're just, that's when they're
thinking of it. It may not be exactly always in the middle of class, but maybe at the start or the end when they're going to their next class.
My son is 15 and while it's tricky because you want your teenagers to have good hygiene, yet I think he's over applying.
He puts on so much all the time. And he's like, Mom, it's for the ladies. And he is addicted to this old spice.
I was going to ask him, was it like Old Spice or Axe or something? Old Spice. This one particular scent. I can't remember. Maybe it's like Fiji or something. And it is so strong.
Wait, I've bought that like flavor shampoo for Patrick before.
Old Spy shampoo or is it three and one where it's body wash shampoo and conditioner
all in one?
It's definitely a three.
He loves a three and one.
Gotta love a good three and one.
I think I got him really nice shampoo and conditioner one year for Christmas and he didn't use it.
And he told me that he just wanted his head and shoulders two and one.
And I was like, I spent like,
$40 on this and you want your $599 bottle.
Yep.
So I get it, Jen from Houston.
I could see how that would bother me because there's probably a lot of kids that are doing it.
Yeah, my son's putting it on all the time.
If I was a teacher in like math class, I'd be like kids, now's not the time for your deodorant.
Like I wouldn't be grossed out by it, but I would be like.
Well, I don't think she's grossed out.
She feels like she's watching them do something like a more intimate moment.
You need to go to the bathroom and put that on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it's not disruptive to her.
Like, I don't picture the kid being like halfway through class.
Oh, got to put out my deodorant.
I think it's probably during, you know, like when class is wrapping or beginning.
Yeah.
And she's like, oh, I shouldn't be watching this.
And then she's like, oh.
I feel like I need to turn away.
Oh, wow.
But I'm not alone.
This helps.
Thank you all for sharing all of your thoughts, all of you who sent things in.
Because we had a lot of feedback.
Sometimes I feel like we can talk about something that's really.
really impactful and meaningful and, you know, really impact change. And, you know, you expect to maybe
get some feedback from that crickets. Nothing. You talk about flying deodorant on Instagram.
People are like, I have something to say. People are like, I thought I was alone. And it's not really
anything I've ever shared before until it just naturally came up. I've never talked about. Why would I?
I know. But it's interesting when you say something that you've always had these thoughts
about. You're like, I must be the only one. And then you learn you're not. Yeah. Feels good.
Feels good to not be alone. I'm glad you're feeling that way. Yeah. Well, thanks for the email and the
voicemails. We normally share those in couch talks, but since we had talked about the underarms
in the Feeling Things episode last week, we thought we would share them here. But you can email us or call us.
The email is, hey, there at feeling things podcast.com. Yes. And the phone number is 870.7.com.
27-207-2077. And we hope whatever you're doing, wherever you are right now, you are having the day.
You need to have. I'm just wondering where you're going with that.
Sometimes I want to say have the day you need to have, but I can't always set it up that way.
I end up having to say having the day you need to have. I want to say.
You could just say wherever you are, we hope that you...
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There was no anything inside those eyes.
They turned black.
It scared the hell out of me.
People wake up.
I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Krivac and DePippo.
Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse,
appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.
I said I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grave.
Listen to the day.
Devil's Quarry in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app.
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, listen up.
The Jonas Brothers here.
Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas.
We've here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well.
And we've had some incredible guests so far.
And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show.
How's it going, boys?
Hey, Niall.
It's the same thing with Slow Hands.
Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it?
You know, or taste so good can be about food.
You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done.
You too, Joe.
Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.
Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind,
and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
That's where Sports Slice comes in.
I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise,
breaking down the biggest moments in sports
and giving you the real story behind the headline.
And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves.
their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
And for more, follow Timbo Slicalife-Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
This is an IHart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
