The Bobby Bones Show - FEELING THINGS: How to Not Get Murdered, Walking in on Your Parents & The Chick-fil-a Protein Bar

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

Amy is feeling curious about a couple of things, while Kat is feeling nostalgic and vindicated. Listeners weigh in on whether Amy should keep reading The Names and the opinions are split. Kat wonders if she can name her baby after herself, which feels weird, but men do it all the time! We learn that Amy walked in on her parents as a kid, which is a very unexpected fact being that it comes up during the ‘How to not get murdered by a serial killer’ part of this episode. Other things they chat about: customizing your own lipstick at Lip Lab, a Chick-Fil-a hack, the jello diet, Devil Wears Prada 2 and more! Get some Feeling Things merch by clicking HERE! (FeelingThingsPodcast.com) Sign up for the Feeling Things newsletter HERE! Watch us on Youtube HERE! Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // threecordstherapy.com // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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From the real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between. Sometimes the best thing you can do it just out and feel things. This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat. And I'm feeling annoyed.

I wonder why. I like for my pets to be in here. My cat will probably make an appearance at some point. I've got my dog in here. I think she's due for an allergy shot because she has been scratching her ears and shaking like her. Her ears are really floppy and then she shakes her head back and forth. This isn't even my legit feeling of the day.

This just happened because we were trying to start recording and she had an itch and she was moving around and making all kinds of noise. So I do feel for her. it reminded me of my sleep though I woke up this morning to her doing that thing with her ears and flopping on back and forth and shaking her head so I feel for her it's just gotten a little bit annoying but we can go to my legit feeling of the day which was curious I'm very curious about making my own lipstick which I have some thoughts on okay what I put I wish so a little behind the scenes baseball cat and I have

a Google Doc we share and we throw stuff in it, but we don't give details and all, Cat will write her feeling. You put nostalgic. I have no idea why. I want to hear, just like the listeners are hearing for the first time. I put curious, I did put in parentheses lip lab. And so you did know about that. And you were like, oh my gosh, I've been to lip lab. And I was like, oh, that, that's it. Save it for the show because I want to hear it then. I feel like if somewhere online, I saw a group of people making their own lipstick. So I Googled it this morning as my curiosity was peaking. And that's when LipLab came up.

And I thought, okay, that must be what it's called, where you go and you make your own lip color. I have this lip gloss that I really like called and the color is heart and the brand is talk or something. It was gifted to me three years ago. Does makeup expire? I don't know. I think it does, but I don't follow.

I still have it. Because I still use lip gloss from like five years ago. Right. Okay, good. So I'm using this and it's about to run out. However, I don't love the feel of it. I love the color. I just don't like the texture.

Yeah, what it turns into after it's been on a little bit. So I thought, well, what if I could create the color of this lip gloss? into a lipstick. Because I went to their website. They don't have lipstick. Well, the talk. I went to look at the lip gloss site. Because I thought to myself, what if they make this in a lipstick?

They don't. All they have is the lip gloss. And I want the color in a lipstick. Okay. And so can I take the lip gloss with me and say, I want this color. Let's make it? I don't know if you can do that. But what's interesting is the first time that I went.

to lip-lap, I went and I wanted to make the same color that the girl that did my makeup for my engagement photos and the color that she was going to use for my wedding, I wanted to make that same color. And so I went in with like an idea of, I didn't have that lipstick to show them. But you just keep trying different things and you say, I want to add a little bit of this or I want a little darker, I want to whatever, until you get the color or the shade that you want. And they give it to you in a tube of lipstick?

And there's different kinds. Like there's different like, what is it called? Like finishes of lip, like you can have a matte lipstick or a sheer lipstick or a. Shimmer. Yeah, sure. And you can add more shimmer or less shimmer or whatever. And so it's really cool because it ends up being like the color you want, yes, but then in the like type. Because you can make a lip balm.

Very cool. Okay. So highly recommend. It is a little expensive. Oh, gosh. Like how much? I think to make a lip stick is probably like $65, $60. But part of it, it's because you're getting the lipstick, yes.

But it's like an experience. Did you go with friends or by yourself? The first time I went with my mom, my sister, I don't know if we went just as like a bonding or for somebody's birthday. And then I took my two nieces a couple weeks ago for my one niece Addie's birthday. Okay. And also the time you go is very important because the lip lab in Nashville is, in a very touristy spot.

So you want to make sure you go to time where there's not going to be a lot of... Oh, that reminds me in the same vein of, you know, makeup and tourism. On 12 South, there's the Jones Road, which is the Bobby Brown. You know, Bobby Brown who had the makeup. Her more mature makeup now is Jones Road. What does mature makeup mean? Older. Oh, I didn't know that that was for older women.

Well, I don't know that it is. It may not be less... I've seen young people using it, but I've also in ads that have popped up on my feed. It's older women saying that this has been great for their mature skin. And Bobby Brown herself is older now and has more mature skin. And that's the category I've fallen. So I thought, well, I want to go by there. So I drive by and it is a madhouse in there.

So you couldn't even go in. I didn't even park because I thought that no. What day of the week? Well, it was a Thursday. which I know Thursdays, 12 South, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is no-go. So I need to go on a Monday or Tuesday. But if anybody listening, if you have used Jones Road, I'm very curious about, they have these miracle bombs like for your cheeks that are supposed to be really awesome.

But when I click to order online, I get overwhelmed by the colors. So that's why I want to go into the store so that I can see it on my skin and test it out. So you're telling me I need to also be intentional about when I go to lip. lab, which I can go on a Monday. And go Tuesday. Earlier versus later. Because when we were there, we got there when I opened with my nieces. And as we were leaving, like, birthday parties were coming in. Oh, okay. So you... See,

I don't think I'm going to do a whole experience thing. I'll probably just go. Well, I mean, I'm not going to go with like a group. I'll just go. Yeah, yeah. Just go. I've on a mission. I want this lip gloss turned into this lipstick. Boom, done. I have one more thing that I'm curious about, but I want to get to your feeling and then we can circle back to my other curiosity feeling or the thing that I'm curious about. Okay. Because I want to know what you're feeling nostalgic about. And then you also wrote Vindicated. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm feeling nostalgic because I went and saw Devil Wears Prada too. Was it so good?

I don't want to say too much. It was, it was very good. I would watch it again. And it was a well-made movie. You look scared. No, I was going to yawn. Okay. I needed to yawn. And I was trying to hold it in so my nose was flaring up. You know when you try to hold in the yawn that then your nose opens and it's like, it's real tough. So that's what was happening. I am very eager to see that. I don't know if I'll go in theaters or just wait until I can watch it at home.

I'm excited for it, though. I went with a friend who gets like discounts on movie tickets. So I will say, I probably wouldn't pay a full movie ticket again. But did you know a matinee? We went at a matinee. A full price matinee ticket is like $18 now. Yeah. It was like five.

50. Well, I know, but times they are changing. Okay. And then I feel vindicated because I had sent you this video over the weekend, which you accidentally ignored because you were working. Yes. So I don't take that personally. Well, I told you that when I got it, I was getting on an elevator. And then I couldn't open it up because it was on the elevator. And by the time I got off the elevator, it was over. Yeah, too late. It's not important. But so a long time ago, probably, six months ago, I had sent you a text being like, oh my gosh, who do we talk to about this? There are videos of Oprah promoting this diet on our YouTube videos.

And we might have even talked about it on here back in the day. And you went and looked at it and I think you were like, cat, that's not really Oprah. Some AI, Oprah. Like we couldn't control that. So that happened, blah, blah, blah. Well, this past weekend, I was watching The Girl Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. I've gotten back into that. And Kathy Hilton, Andy asked Kathy Hilton how she picked out her outfit.

And she said, well, I had an issue. Nothing was fitting me because I went on the jello diet. And they were like, the jello diet. What's the jello diet? And she was like, well, everybody's promoting this. It's Oprah. It's Martha Stewart. It's all the Dr. Oz.

They're all promoting this jello diet that you put like vinegar and cornstarch or something in your jello and then you eat it. And she was like, so I lost like two pounds. And then I just blew up. Like, I guess she couldn't fit in her clothes. And then she was like, and then I found out it was AI. So I feel vindicated because I'm not the only one that's getting got by that. You and Kathy Hilton. Me and Kathy Hilton.

And I don't know much about her. But. So she did the jello diet? I don't know what that. I don't know. Is it like the cabbage diet? I think it's you just eat yellow. Whatever it is, that's all you eat.

Yes. Okay. Which like wouldn't be the diet I chose if I'm ever going to be choosing that. But I get why people get sucked into it because people like Oprah, who is now this like face of, she's always like been in the news and being a face of weight loss. But now she's promoting GLP ones and all that. And she's doing all this content for that. So I can see why you would see that and be like, oh, Oprah's doing it.

I'm going to do it. Right. You know, this is not related to diet at all, but it has to do with jello. I know I'm craving it big time. You do, okay. It's the jellos. I don't even know. No, no, no, no.

It's not salad. It's, uh, I don't know that it hasn't. It's like trailer trash jello or something. I got to look at the name. That sounds really bad, but I feel like it was called something like that. But it's a crumbled up pretzels with. sugar on the bottom and then you put red jello and then you put cool whip on top and then you sprinkle some more pretzels. It's like in a salty sweet. Have you ever had it? No, but I don't like

jello and like the pretzel and the jello. Doesn't it get soggy? And like, no, there's still a crunch and it's so good. I mean, yes, some of it gets soggy, but there's still a crunch and it's so good. All of those flavors together, I'm telling you, it's so good. Did your grandma ever put like cabbage and jello and she would serve that at holidays and stuff. No. But my grandma would do that. Cabbage? It was like jello with like green jello with like cabbage and stuff in it.

And they would just eat it, eat it, eat it. Like it was so good. And I never was a fan of that. I don't know if that was like a West Virginia thing. But maybe. Anyway, don't do the jello diet. And if you see these videos of Dr. Oz and Oprah and whoever promoting this, then report it as AI.

And move on. And move on. Okay, so you feel vindicated by that. You're not the only one. Okay, my other thing that I'm curious about is if you have seen the reels or TikToks that are going around right now of people eating the Chick-fil-A protein bar. Those have not been in my algorithm. And what it is, they're literally going to Chick-fil-A and ordering a chicken breast,

like the standard fried. It's not even the grilled one. It's like just fried chicken breast. So I guess the sandwich without the buns. But they're like, oh, I'm just sitting here eating my Chick-fil-A protein bar. And at first I was like, wait a second, what? Chick-fil-A came out with a protein bar? And then you zoom in and it's just the meat.

And they say, I mean, think about it. You'll go to the grocery store and spend $3.99, $4.99 on some protein bar that has all these added things in it. And it only tastes that good sometimes. Yeah. And then when you could go to chicken flour, it's just. filet and get yourself a chicken breast patty thingy and

do you get a discount for not having the that's what I'm saying like if I'm not getting the bread and the pickle can I get a deal you should get at least a dollar off I wonder if they have people that are coming through the line they're like I'd like a chick-fil-a protein bar please and they're like one cutlet coming up and then get you it on the menu get yourself a diet Coke call it a day yeah but that's just a way to to get down I think that one girl she posted

the condo. She was like, this is 250 grams. No. That's way too much. I'm sorry, 250 calories and maybe like 25 grams of protein or something. And you, that's exactly what you would probably get in a protein bar, but without all the other added stuff. Well, here's the only caveat to that. I mean, I'd much rather have Chick-Fleight chicken than a protein bar, but protein bars are convenient. You can't just, like, carry around Chick-fil-A-Chic chicken breasts in your purse. We're like, like when you're traveling like I always like to have a couple bars to never know where you're going to be and if you're going to get hungry I can't just like carry chicken in my purse yeah I mean I guess I could but I'd have to have a cooler I guess also too you could get that's that's

that's good point but also you could get the nuggets are they just doing it because it looks like a bar and you're biting into it because if you get the nuggets that'd be like the same thing and less weird but I will say the chicken chicken breast. I mean, the nuggets have, it does, it's a different thing, especially biting into it, if you're wanting to bite into it like a bar. But part of what I love about Chick-fil-A is the pickles. So I would actually want the pickles on my protein bar. I do not need a pickle. I do extra pickles on my checklist. No, no. Nope. Okay. Not happening. Well, thanks for that little protein bar hack. That is real. This is not AI. You can get. People are really doing that. People are really doing this. This isn't a diet hack. Because it's the fried.

Yeah. It's fried. Well, the fried is better than the grilled ones. Sometimes they're grilled. Something's off with the grilled. Sometimes it gets to me and then you have that feeling when like you know that you're eating chicken. I get that feeling when I'm eating their grilled stuff. I get the thought of is this real meat? It is. But something's like a rubbery and weird. Yes. Yes. Yes. You get that weird piece and then it's over. And it varies. Yeah. I wonder about factories and companies that may. like granola, for example, like one bag will taste different than another bag. And I wonder, did this one just get a little bit burnt? But how did this pass inspection? Because it doesn't taste like the last bag that I had. People tasting every batch. I mean, they have to. Good question. They have to be. Do they? Well, Patrick and I were talking this weekend, this is riveting, but we were talking this weekend about how when we lived in Nashville, there was a Waldo's chicken. Have you, you know what Waldo's is? Yeah. I've brought it over.

I've never been, but I drive by it. Perfect. Because when we live in Nashville, there was one right by us never went, ever. And it was always empty. And Patrick went to it a couple times and he was like, it was just like me. Well, we moved to the burbs and there's a wall that was very close to our house. And so I've been there because it's the closest thing, sometimes to get something quick. And I love it now.

It's always packed. And Patrick was like, it is so much better than the one in Nashville. Maybe they have different owners. Well, it's the same, they're getting the same food. But he was saying, like, I wonder, I don't know why some people are going to one, some people aren't going to another. But like, because one is more busy, their food's more fresh. Oh, yeah, because they have to turn it over more.

So at the slow one, you're eating. Like old chicken? Hmm. Good. Good question. I don't know. So if you're going to Walters, make sure you go to a bump in one. Well, my friend's mom growing up, she was one of those secret eaters or secret shoppers. Oh. She would get paid. Like, I guess different companies through, and this was the 90s. So I'm sure they do it now. I just

not quite sure how the secret shop. But she would get paid to go to certain places and report on her experience. I don't know. Good question. Because I would love that. So she would go to restaurants, other stores to see how the customer service was or how the food was tasting. My sister's family, her husband's family, they owned a bunch of Taco Bells. And my mom actually, worked for that company like the corporate office too. We were all family friends growing up. But the owner, his dad, he would go to the Taco Bells and like if they would give him too many sauces. He would go at, but he would go through the drive-thru. Oh, so they didn't know it was him. Right. Okay. And if he got too many packets of hot sauce, he would give it back and be like, this is too many. Gotcha. And my ex-father-in-law, he also worked for the company too. And he They would go through drive-thru and they would pop in just see. By the time they got to the window, especially my ex-father-in-law, a lot of the stores knew

exactly who he was because he was more in the stores a lot more. But if they rolled up to the window, they'd be like, hey, just so you know this is too many of this or give them back. I'm going to give these back to you because all of that adds up. If you think of all, like if there's 75 Taco Bells and they're all giving out all these packets, quality control. And just making sure that everything's working. So how do we get this job? I don't know.

I want to research this because I think that also could be a good part-time job. Yeah. You're not doing that 40 hours a week. You can't be. I mean, even if you get the food for free. I bet you have to. Yeah. But I would want to be paid on top of the food.

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First email is from Jasmine. Hey, Amy, I like the names. However, I'm a firm believer in not pushing through a podcast. a book that I'm not connecting with. I've bailed on books that have incredible reviews because I'm just not into it. Life is too short and there are too many books out there that you can read and love. Hope this helps. I like that perspective. Life is too short to read a book that you're not interested in. So how are you doing on Theo Golden? I sat down the other day and read a chapter. You sound so into it. But what I also, I read more when I'm on vacation.

I know. So I think I'm going to probably still be reading it when I go when we go on our baby moon. So maybe I'll save it and savor it. But I started listening to yesteryear. That's easier for me to consume consistently. Yesterday's you're going to let it. This next email is from Robin and Missouri. Hey, I read the names last year and I agree that it was a bit difficult to get into,

but I pushed through and I'm glad I did. I enjoyed the different perspectives and how we each make choices that can impact the trajectory of our lives. I would encourage you to keep going. I hope you're having the day you need to have. I know I either need to like move on because there's so many amazing books out there or keep going. Right now I'm working through the House Maid series and then I'll circle back to the names. I think that I'll, I'm going to give it another go.

Maybe it just wasn't the right time. Okay. One more shot and then if you're still not enjoying it, then you'll move on. Yeah. Which in the Housemaid's stuff, I know it's fiction, right? is it is it could be loosely based on is it loosely based on something well I mean people get tortured and right and that's what I think about I'm like there's that many uh you know I look around when I'm with crowds of people I look around and I'm like who's who's who's the abuser in here okay that's like I know it's

dark like I'm not even like that's I know but I well okay interesting if it's one in however many people I mean Or who's, who, okay, fine. What's the stat on that? We'll make it a little lighter, not so. I mean, I guess, yeah, it sounds really harsh.

Just so you know, if Amy's in a group of people, she's wondering which one of you is the abuser of the group. Yeah, yeah, no, but it has me thinking that because statistically speaking, it's somebody you know or work with, they're doing something.

Somebody, yeah. Shady at home, like they're either being extremely disrespectful or they, like you may never imagine. imagine it, but at home. Maybe somebody's cheating on somebody. Yeah, I don't know.

That's not part of the book, this book. I mean, kind of. There's some stories, but not, yeah, but abuse is the main thing. Yes, yes, yes, yes, and murder. Well, and do you know about the author? I do not. Do you know the lore of the author? I do not.

So, Frida McFadden is the author. That's not her real name. She just actually came out with her real identity. Like, even like the picture of her on the book, that's, she has a wig on in glasses. She, like, has a disguise. So she actually is, I don't know exactly. She, she, I think, is a psychiatric doctor, a psychiatrist of sorts. Allegedly?

Allegedly. She works in medicine. Okay. So the reason I said, like, is this based on, she could be taking things that she's experienced in her work and creating characters out of different, or ideas because she's written a bagillion thriller books. And they all are kind of like, yeah, there's a little, there's a bad guy. Yeah, a dark twist.

And I would call it a twist. Now, again, I'm not saying that this exact story is true. No, but I get it. You're in any art, inspiration is coming from somewhere. In any art. In any art. So I shall keep going. Because gosh, even in the names, the man.

And this is in the very beginning of the book. Like, I'm not ruining anything. But the husband she's married to is a total jerk. And because he wants his son named after him, like, he is abusive. It's, like, what's up with? What is up with men loving their kids being named after them? But I feel like women don't. Yeah, we don't have that.

That's not part of our legacy, I guess. Well, I'm even struggling because the name that sounds the best with the name we chose. the middle name is Catherine and I feel so weird about naming our child after us. Okay, but middle name is different. But then everybody's like, men name their kids after themselves all the time. The third. I feel like it's very normal. This is a stereotype for sure.

But you know when you meet the third. Like they. Well, no, it's the senior the weird one or is it the third that you're like? No, the third. Anybody the third? No. Okay. I don't know that I've met a third.

I'm not going to generalize here. I should say there are anomalies, I'm sure, where they're not like this. So if this is you, you're not one of them, right? But I feel like in my experience, and it's been rare, it's not like I've met a ton of the thirds. Yeah. But it's like even the most recent, the third was when I was with my boyfriend, we met this one guy and we were talking to me, walked away. And I was like, huh, he's interesting. And he goes, well, you know he's da, the third. And I was like, that tracks. He's the third. I don't know that I've ever met a third.

In a certain class of people, yeah. If it could be the third, if you're like middle class, the third, you're probably fine. You're probably the coolest person ever. I don't know. Like, they just like that name, right?

Middle class are lower. But if you're upper to upper to upper, upper, upper, upper class, the third, you are probably a mess and really bizarre and weird. Oh, okay, I get what you're going. What's the nickname for, you know, if you're the second, there's junior. Is the third, is that Tripp or did I make that up? I think it could be Tripp is like, yeah, middle name. It's a normal name.

Okay. Because it's a triple. Yeah, like that's fine. You can be the third, but if you go by the third, like when people say your name and you're like, no, it's the third. Yeah. Add it on. Like I'm William.

I am the third. The third. William Theodore Van Hoos and Hire. The third. Yeah. See, that's what I'm talking about. Y'all know. Get it right.

If you haven't met one yet when you do one day, you'll get it. And you'll be like, oh, the third. You must be upper class third. You're upper class the third. Okay. So let's see. Shannon's typing something about we learn. Wait, what? Can I not say this?

No, no, no, no. When you can say this, Lorlai Gilmore, Shannon wrote this. Lorley Gilmore named Rory after her. I didn't realize that. Why did that never click? Her name is Lorelei, too. Okay, but she was 16. So it's like, about 16, I might have been like,

wait, fill me in because I've only watched a little bit of Gilmore Girls here and there. I haven't watched it start to finish. I know. It's so good. I will one day. Well, you probably won't. No, I really might. Okay, so Lorelai gets pregnant when she's like, the mom.

The mom gets pregnant when she's like 16. Her daughter's name is Rory. I guess Rory is a nickname. nickname for Lorelei. How do you get Rory from Lorelei? Lory. Rory Lory Lory Lai? There's a lot of nicknames I feel like aren't exactly like,

you know? Okay. So Shannon said in the pilot episode, Lerl named her daughter after herself while whacked out on Dimmoral in the hospital just after giving birth, thinking about how men named their sons after themselves. And my women couldn't do the same.

Wait, okay, so maybe I'll do it as like another vindication, you know? Yes. I'm going to stand up for a woman's right to name my child after me. Yeah, but middle name. Middle name. Yes. Yeah. I think you're fine.

Okay. Cool. That's a crazy story. I didn't know that. I guess I haven't watched the pilot in a hot minute. Okay. And then Shannon looked this up. Rory is a nickname for Lorelei derived from the shortening of the name to Lori and

transitioning the L to R. That's a lot of work. Or through a toddler-aged Rory struggling to pronounce Lorelei. So anyway, we got there. Okay. Now you want to know how not to get murdered from a serial killer? I would love to know. So I saw an eerie post, which obviously that's kind of scary of learning these survival

tips from a serial killer named Danny Rawling. Wait, he says from a serial killer. Yeah, he's responsible for killing. five students in Gainesville, Florida over four days in August 1990. The post was a, the post was something about from an article from back in the day where he had said it. Okay. So he wasn't, he's not like an, he's not an influencer. He was being interviewed.

Okay. And then this was put up. Okay. Do you know anything about? So some of these are going to seem a little dated because the interview is from back in the Back in the day. In the 90s, okay. But you can apply it to your life now.

Take what it fits. Here's what he says. Always park your car in the light. Okay, check. What if there's... Well, then don't park. Okay. You read my mind.

If there's no light, well, keep driving. And that makes me think, too, about getting pulled over at night. It's been a minute. Like, I haven't been pulled over, but... It could be a fake car. You have to wait until you can. can get to a gas station or something to pull over. Like if you're on the interstate,

then at what point is he like this is a chase? Yeah, if it's late at night on the interstate, I'm going to be very hesitant to pull over. Can I put my flashers on and be like? Yes. I'm just going to pull over, but I'm going safely to an exit. And obviously it would have to be an unmarked car.

Oh, Shannon says you're supposed to call 911 one if there's an unmarked policeman following you. They'll confirm if it's real. That's a lot. That's a lot of work. Here's another tip. Buy yourself a 38 caliber revolver. Get a permit to carry and put it in your handbag. Did you know when I lived in North Carolina, I had my concealed carry license. Did you carry? I carried to pick up pizza once. You just did it one time just to see what it felt like. Yeah, I had a little fanny pack and everything. That's cute. And even though it was legal for me to have it, I still felt uncomfortable and I was walking weird and I was like, I'm just probably not going to do this. But I took the whole course and everything.

Well, good for you. I don't see myself ever feeling comfortable doing that. Well, you probably would feel comfortable with this because the next tip is buy some mace on a keychain and have it ready when you get out of your car. That I can get comfortable with. Which I will say in housemaids, the main character, she carries mace. Or there is mace involved at some point. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.

So, and when I was reading that part, I was like, yeah, I definitely need to get mace. I have one of those birdies where you can Whistle. You yank it off. You pull it out and then it makes an extremely loud noise. It's not that loud to me. But Mace would be way more effective. But you just have to make sure to not get it in your eyes or mouth.

Well, this is my thing with the Mace versus the birdie or the whistle. It's like if I pulled that birdie thing out, I think that the killer would get annoyed and retaliate. Versus if I mace them, they're like, ah! And they can't really collect their bearings. Have we talked about this? I feel like maybe we have, but it's okay, it's worth mentioning here again. It was a video that a girl made where her demonstrating how she is when she's hiking or walking on a trail and she passes a man and she's by herself. And she acts like she's on her phone.

And she's like, I don't know. I just like I have so much diarrhea. And I don't. On the trail? Yeah. She's like hiking. Yeah, she'll say like things, like in a much more, uh, vulgar, like gross, disgusting. Like, she'll make herself sound like as, like, there's me zero desire.

Yeah. Unless that man is very into bodily functions. Like she's just like, oh my gosh, I am pooping everywhere. It's disgusting. Yeah. I'm disgusting. I need a bathroom. It smells so bad. Yeah. So as she's walking by, she just, she just gets really loud and starts to describe her. What if a guy's like, do you need some help with? Her bathroom issues. She doesn't care. She just doesn't want to talk to them.

Just in case. Because again, statistically speaking, like, I know there's a lot of great men and women out there. Yes. I don't want to put this all just on men, but. Well, most serial killers are men. I think it's like, probably 95% of them. Yeah.

I'm not saying on the trail you might encounter a serial killer, but a predator of some sort, yeah. Let's see. If your bedroom window doesn't have a screen, get one and nail it to the windowsill. So that way they can't remove the screen. I mean, I guess they could just cut into it. Yeah. Lame tip, Dennis.

He doesn't want to give too good a tics. I'm just kidding. His name's Danny. Not Dennis. Place a bunch of empty glass bottles in the windows. Oh, so that it makes noise. Mm-hmm. And then they get spooked and they run off.

Okay. I like that. Get you some curtains, he says. What is that going to do? If you don't have any curtains, then they can't look in and watch you or see like where you are or the setup of your room. Are people really just like having their raw dog in it? I was about to say that too. I was looking for another way to say that. Your bedroom, I can't imagine somebody in like the light in general. Well, here's the next tip he says about your bedroom. And again, this is a tip from a serial killer. And could you imagine having this on your bedroom door?

I do not know. But he is saying that you should get a deadbolt for your bedroom door. You know, okay, you might have it on the front door. back door, the garage door, wherever. But he's saying to put a deadbolt on your bedroom door. So then, yeah, they can't come in. I mean, obviously, if they figured out how to get through the deadbolt somewhere else, when they figure out how to also get into your room.

But also, that works if you live by yourself. But if you have kids, I definitely don't want my children. All the more reason to deadbolt. I'm more thinking, like, okay, when I was little, every time, It like rained. I ran down to my mom's room and slept in my mom's bed. Like she made me sleep on the floor. But I can't imagine running down to my, being like a storm, running downstairs, getting there and it being deadbolted.

Like I want my kids to be able to get in. Also. Because I'm thinking about how I wish my parents had deadbolted in their room. I only have like a few memories of my dad living at home. And one time I needed my parents and I go to their bedroom and I walk in. and they are no. Five months Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space,

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And I remember I was acting so weird. And let me tell you, if my dad was living at home, that means it was like Easter Sunday because we didn't really go to church. Wait. But I remember. They didn't know. You walked in. No. They didn't know.

You quietly snuck back out. I let. I turned around and left. They didn't have the door. They had the door. open. I'm like, where, what is happening? So I leave. Then the rest of the day, apparently I'm acting weird. And I remember later that day, it honestly really must have been Easter. Because I feel like we had people over and we were sitting on the living room floor and we were in our dresses. I

don't know. My mom was just like, is everything okay? Like even right now, I have it clear as day, the image. I won't ever. And they had mirrors. No. Not, not, they didn't have the mirrors up. For the activity. No. No, but like their, think 80s, you know, they had their... Like a closet mirror? Their headboard.

My dad probably made this. Stop it. They were shelves, but behind the shelves, it was a mirror wall and then shelves, and then they had like books and accent things on the... So you saw every angle. Well, I know that mostly what I saw, and let you say, um, well, I don't know. I mean, both my parents are dead. Whatever, he cares.

It's not like either of them. We're going to listen to this, but my mom was on top. So I will ever forget it. And then my mom asks me, are you okay? I just remember thinking, I'm never going to be okay. I'm never going to be okay. Ever, ever, ever, ever. Are you okay now?

I haven't thought of it. about it in a while, but anytime, like, when you were thinking, like, I always wanted the freedom to, like, go into my parents' room. I'm like, after that, I never went to my parents' room. And then, I mean, I don't know how much longer after that my parents even lived together. So I'm trying to guess what my age was. It had to be, like, I had to be anywhere from five or six to nine. Like, that was my age range because my dad moved out when I was nine. And I don't really feel like I remember anything before five. What age do you learn what sex is? Like, do you know what they were doing? I didn't. No. I did not know and I did not want to know.

But they were naked. Well, I think it would be probably worse if you were like 16 and you like knew exactly what was going on. Oh, I, no. Wait, wait, wait. There's no covers on. No, my mom has a birthmark on her. And I could see the birthmark. Like, it was like on her left thigh.

I know. This is the tough childhood story. Well, yeah. That's why I'm like, I wish my parents had a deadbolt. Yeah, I would too. Or like a doorbell you have to ring before you enter. For the door to be open is my, like, what was going through their minds? Because they just thought we were going to be asleep.

Like, what was going through their minds? I think they had other things going through their minds. I don't know. But yeah, it just. Thanks for sharing that. Anyways, the serial killer says, deadbolt your door. It also gives you more time. Like if they have to figure that out and you have to.

have your phone, like you have more time to call 911. Or to jump out the window. Yeah. And if you're on the second store, you need to buy one of those little fire ladder things. I was going to tell you, I looked them up. Yeah, that you throw out the window. There are, like, because we were talking about, like, what would we do a couple of months ago?

What would we do if a fire and you had to jump out your window? Right. There are, like, legitimate little ladders that will, like, latch onto your window, and they'll go down a little bit. They're just kind of, I almost bought one, but it was like $90. But now that I'm thinking about it. $90 to save your life. I'm like, it's $90 that could literally save my life and give me a piece of mind.

So I think today I will buy one. You're like, go to the lip lab. It's like $60. It's $60 for a tube of lipstick. But $90 per a rope that'll save your life. But I probably won't need the rope, knock on wood. But the lipstick I used all that. Okay, I'm going to buy it.

I did see that Shannon looked up right now. I don't know how long this is lasting. but she said liplab has 25% off right now. Use code spring weekday 25 when booking Monday through Friday Reservate. Oh, expires June 26. Not a commercial. I do not know these LipLab people, obviously.

Could be a commercial though. Yeah, shout out. Wait, so you should go during the week and get a discount and it won't be $65. Yeah, I can get 25% off. Yeah. Bam. I mean, I guess it is a lot. They're taking time.

You have this appointment and they're concocting this signature color just for you. It's an hour. Or could it be faster? It could be faster. But the last time I went, I was with two little girls. Right. So, yeah, you had a, yours was an outing. Let's see, where are we with not getting murdered or taken?

Sleep with your 38 caliber revolver once you get it. Not only do you carry it around, but put it under your pillow. It won't go off by accident. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully not. Danny. How do you know that?

I mean, you have to have the same. on obviously but what if like you roll around a lot in the what if you sleepwalk what if you do you know Patrick's does weird things in his sleep yeah about that like he's like oh what's this yeah I'm not we're not sleeping with a gun in our bed no he says if someone bothers you don't ever let an attacker get control fight for your life what kind of tip is that I because I feel honestly I've thought about this have you have you ever had the thought of like okay fine I just probably surrender because I would get surrender I would surrender I Yeah, because I don't want you to kill me.

So like, let's just. No, I don't want to. I almost am like, if you're going to kill me, just do it. Oh, get it over with? Yeah, like I don't see myself. If I'm being chased it in the woods, I see myself just being like, I can't do this anymore. Just do it. Okay.

Granted, I've never been in that sense. That's your Hail Mary. Just do it. Well, I think it's scarier for me getting chased than being murdered, I guess. I don't know. But I've never been in that situation, so I don't know. Well, because once you're murdered, it's over. It's done.

You don't feel it anymore. That's what I think. I think of like if someone were to come in and just shoot me in the head, like how awful that would be. But it's like I'm dead. Yeah, you don't know. I don't know. But I think it also would be different. Like you have kids to like fight for.

Like, you know, if I had kids, then maybe I would fight a little bit harder. Well, but if you have your mace, you get to spray the mace. We get to scream as loud as you can. Or I have diarrhea. Kick him in the balls. Okay. Okay. that's what I would that is one thing that I'm like why don't people do that more often?

Because that's just when you're in shock and then also getting a good. But that will put somebody on their knees for sure. And poking them in the eyeballs. So a little. Yeah. Where's that tip? Danny. Yeah. Danny. If you put up a fight though, Danny does say that the attacker might give up. Because they also don't maybe want to put in a lot of effort. They want someone like me. Yeah. Just do it. Just do it.

Many people have house alarm systems now, so maybe you don't need the glass bottles, obviously. But it's just like added protection. You know, like if you were to line your window with the glass bottles. If you have a window alarm would suffice. Do you think that having an alarm automatically makes the predator run away? because he has time. Okay, I think that if they see alarm signs, like I have my alarm company sign in my yard, like a little stake that's in the ground, and I even have a light that shines on it at night.

So you can see. And then I saw another tip. This is from people that rob or burglarize homes. Yeah. Like if you put a dog bowl outside, like I don't want a beware of dog sign, but if you put a dog bowl on your porch, that can be a deterrent because that will send information like, there's a dog here and they don't want to deal with that. But here's my thought. Okay.

There's a difference, I guess, if you're getting burglarized or if somebody's coming into capture and murder you. If they're just trying to murder you, I get if an alarm goes off, a burglar being like, I got to go. It's not worth it. I'll find another house or something. But if somebody's there to, like, murder you or take you, once your alarm goes off, the police don't automatically show up.

right away. They call you. And if you don't answer, they'll come. But it still's going to take them depending on where you live. I don't know. They got to my house pretty quickly one time when I was leaving for work. And this is how terrified I am being late to work. Because at my job for the Bobby Bone Show, if you are not on time, you are sent home, which is nobody wants to be sent home. It's horrible. So I get there early. Well, one morning I'm, I'm, leaving for work and my alarm goes off and I'm already in that window where if I don't go, it's going to be bad. And I just leave. And I was like, okay, I'll figure it out. Like, they'll call me. Call me. And I'll say it's fine. And police showed up. Do they not call you?

I don't remember exactly what happened. But I know that police showed up at my house. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I think everything's fine. Okay, actually maybe this is the thing because I'm using my own experience in judging this and I could be wrong because I've had my alarm go off at my office before and when I wasn't there. And so when they've called, I'm like, well, they'll say like, is everything okay? And I'll just be like, well, I'm not there. So I don't know if like a picture frame fell off the wall or somebody tried to break in. And so then they're like, okay, we'll send somebody. But it takes forever for that person to come out.

And maybe it's because they're like, well, nobody's in danger. Versus if we don't answer the phone, they probably do just show up. I wonder also, too, if it's how if someone happens to be in the area. Because I wonder if cops are like, oh, I'm literally right around the corner from there. So I'll just go check. Yeah. Might as well go check it out. But that was my address that was weird.

I had a lot of police activity there. What do you mean? What was weird? Because my address was 911. Interesting. I know. It's not anymore so I can say it, but it was. I don't think I ever thought about that.

So it was sort of this weird thing of like, am I manifesting emergency vehicles? Because when there were fire trucks, ambulances, police, multiple times. Have you ever been broken into? For real. Yes. In North Carolina. We weren't there at the time. I knew this.

But that's when Ben's Air Force Academy ring was stolen. and then potentially my Aggie ring was stolen. I just don't remember if it was in the jewelry box. So either it was stolen with his ring or I lost it in that house. But I lost my Aggie ring around the same time. What else did they take? The only, that's like the, I think the whole jewelry box, which I don't think, the only meaningful thing in there that we could actually account for

was Ben's Air Force Academy ring. That is so lucky. Did you have like a separate safe? I mean, there might have been some cash or something, but no, we were newlyweds. We had nothing. Okay. I don't even know why they chose our house to break into. It was like, I mean, you walked in.

There was like a couch and a TV and a bed. They didn't take your TV? No, because it was like mounted to the wall, I think, above the fireplace. That would be very difficult. Maybe they did. Maybe they did. You would remember. I remember exactly what my mom looked like that one day, but I don't remember.

Wait, what? Oh, that. Well, because that memory was like. That seared into your brain. That is seared into my brain. brain. Like right now, I'm literally, as I'm trying to tell these stories, I'm like, this is so weird. Like, I can't remember what happened when the police showed up after I left for work with my alarm off. And then I was like, forget it. I'm leaving. Like, I don't even have time to go in there and figure out, like, the code and they get, you know, I just left. And that was before I had it on an app to where now I could deactivate my alarm on my phone.

Can we go back to the memory of your mother for just one second? Yes. Did you ever tell her? Like as an adult, were you ever like, one time. I did walk. No. No. Okay. No, I did not. That was not. We didn't talk about things like that. Never? No. She didn't even talk to me about my period. Ever. What did you do when you got it? I had to figure it out. My friend Kinsey taught me how to do everything. Well, I did not have that same experience. Yeah. No, neither. And with my daughter, I did everything for her. And my sister's the same way. Like, she's very open with her daughter. Wait. Because my sister and I didn't have it. And my sister was already on college by the time my period came, but my sister said that for her, mom never talked to her about it either. It's just that I guess my mom figured out through like

the trash that something was going on with my sister. So one day my sister opened up the bathroom cabinets and there was feminine products there. But no discussion. So when you, okay, this is interesting to me. So when you started your period, period, do you remember how old you were? You don't have to say. Yeah. Well, if I was in, I think I was going into ninth grade because my sister was already gone. So I was probably 13. Okay. So that happens and you don't think to like go.

You didn't, it's not that your mom didn't talk to you about it. You didn't even think like, oh, no, I need to go. I need my mom. Because we, I don't know. Because you didn't have that relationship with her. Right. Okay. You know my mom put my first tampon in for me.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I could share things that I've done. But yeah, similar. Because I couldn't. Because then I'm like, well, wait, that's your story to tell. So I'm like, I should probably let my daughter tell that. But I think that that's what moms should do. Well, I also, I was, I tried.

I tried to do it on my own. But if you're young, you don't know what you're doing. And I, my friends were all going to like the rope swing. And I was wearing pads. And I couldn't go swimming. Although, do you know people, I have a friend that when she's on her period and she was swimming, she just doesn't wear anything. Yeah, because it stops.

But what if you're just like hanging out at the pool? I'm like, you must immediately. get in the water and then immediately go. I know, but why does it stop in the water? I don't know. That's interesting to me. Because I used to do the same thing. I guess I didn't know that trick when I was going to the rope swimming.

So I was like, Mom, I want to go with my friends. I don't want to miss out. And so she was like, oh, she just did it for me, which I think is normal, but I don't think I've never met somebody else who had that experience. Yeah. So I went immediately to my mom when I started my period because I was like, what is happening? What do I do?

Obviously, I didn't talk about it with my dad. I just think it's, I get your mom. Not that I get it, but like I understand her not being up front with you. But I just am curious, like, what were you thinking when you started your period and were you, like, scared or did you just like call your best friend? I don't remember. I really don't. I remember my friend.

I remember that it was Kinsey and I remember us being like in a mirror and her trying to show me what to do. But like the day you started, what did you do? Kinsey was the one that even told me to get in front of the mirror because that's what her mom had her do. So you can get familiar with your body. Nobody, there was none of that. No, no, no, no.

I mean, also it gave you a better, I mean, you would know this too if she did it for you. But because you had that experience, then you're like, well, I definitely want to be able to be there for my daughter when this happens. Yeah, which clearly, like my mom, it just must mean my grandma didn't have. Didn't do that.

Yeah. And I don't know if it's, there wasn't the awareness to do it or they just didn't have the capacity or they're like, well, I figured it out. social figure it out. Also is it one of those, is it a generational thing where like she doesn't want to embarrass, they didn't talk about it back in the day. And so she doesn't want to embarrass you and your sister. So she puts the stuff in there, but she doesn't say anything. You know? I know, but it's like, okay, that's what happened to me. But then so I was, so my sister and I

decided we're going to be the opposite. So like at what point does the general, at what point someone just has to decide to be the opposite? I guess so. Yeah. Well, I think also times change. So it probably for, I mean, but also back in the day, back in the day day, day I'm thinking about yesterday year. You weren't learning about your period at school. So like your mom had to tell you about it. Yeah, I guess. You know?

Like, even are you talking about the 1800s? Yeah. Like, because I'm thinking like what my point, what I was going to say is that like early 1900s, like our grandparents and all that like they did they talked about way less. they were way open in every area than we are now. And so it is normal for that generationally to keep going. Because, yeah, my mom didn't talk about this with me, but it's normal. But your generation, I think it's, in my generation, it started to not be normal.

And that's why you're flipping the script. But as I was thinking and saying that, I was like, wait a second. But what did they do back then when there's no other way to learn about it? There was no, like, class they gave you at school. There's no pamphlet they give you at the doctor. You can't go to the pharmacy and get pads and tampons. Like your mom has to show, tell you. Yeah.

So when did it start getting to be a hush-hush thing? Yeah. Well, I don't even know that for my mom it was like hush-hush. I just think it was like, I've told you this before about I love my mom a lot. And she was so great in so many ways. But there was this an emotional neglect for sure. And I would file that under like the neglect part. Yeah.

I know that that's a physical thing happen to your body, but there's, is that in the same category as anything deep or anything like really personal? It's like she didn't have the capacity or know how to touch any of that. Yeah. Or anything sensitive like that. Yeah. I don't know how to explain it. Which, yeah. Which the, I would argue and I hope this continues to change.

like that kind of stuff shouldn't be sensitive because it's a normal thing that happens to everybody. Yeah. You know, but yeah, that makes sense. Well, you shared a lot about your mom today. Hey mom, shout out. Hopefully. If we don't have the windows open, if we, or the curtains are closed because Danny told us to. Just kidding.

Now I'm scared on my backs to the window. I don't like this. But in our podcast room, we have the curtains shut for, because the light. and sound and all that. But I'm like, oh, that would be so crazy right now if we had the windows open and a cardinal like flew to the window and she's like, hey. I heard what she said. And then my dad flies up as the blue jay and they all.

And I'm like, oh, no. Mom, stop. Get off the blue jay. Oh, good times. Good times. So there you have it. How not to get murdered. Yeah.

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I didn't think I was going to live. I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir. Fair to say this was the biggest case of your career?

Yes, sir. Rape the murder for a young 12-year-old child. She's as bad as it gets. I would think so. People wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder. take place by crevette and de pippo Anthony de pippo showed no signs of remorse

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Like, I don't. I think for me, I love my sign. I have my else. alarm. I have another tip. This isn't from Danny, but if you don't want to sleep with the caliber under your pillow, wasp spray. Wasp spray by your nightstand. Keep a can of it, ready to go. And that stuff will shoot pretty far. And be, damn it. Long time ago, the internet, maybe. I don't remember. I just saw it somewhere. Interesting. You know what? For somebody who historically has and so afraid of getting kidnapped, I have done nothing about it.

For someone who lives in fear of being taken every single day, I am not very proactive in protecting myself. Yeah. So maybe we need to get some was stray. I need to get the ladder. There is a season whenever, I think the waspray honestly comes from when I was married and Ben would be deployed for two months at a time. I have slept with the waspary by my night.

That sounds, honestly, I like that idea. Like that sounds. And I guess through certain moves, I've just gotten rid of it and I haven't like put it back. But I mean, I know I have some. So maybe even today I'm going to go out to the garage and grab my waf spray and put it by my bed. And then I got to order a deadbolt. I don't think I'm going to do the deadbolt though. I just.

Well, you know what to be real mad about though? And be like, are you waking me up for real? You're ruining my sleep score. Like, seriously? Seriously. That's what's. I track my sleep now. and your inner meaning.

You're going to give me a 60, which is fair. And I'm striving for 90, which is optimal. What would you rather have? 60 sleep score or be dead? Well, I mean, if I'm dead, I'm not worried about my sleep score. Okay, that silver lines. No, but what I'm saying would that work for him? If I'm like, dude, you're really messing with my sleep score.

He'll be like, oh yeah, I didn't think about that. I'm sorry, my bad. Carry on. I'll go to the next house. Like what the Yeah I'm going to get Wasp it

Spray I'm going to get the ladder I'm not going to do the Deadbolt What I might have to start doing again though is I know I've told you that I used to sleep

with my glasses on as a child because I was afraid if I did get kidnapped I wouldn't be able to see and I wouldn't be able to find my way back home And then

And then It breaks my heart Every time I know I'm saying every time It breaks my heart But if I hear you say that If it was a thunderstorm

I took them off and put them really close to my bed because I was afraid I was going to get electrocuted because my glasses were metal. That is a little picture into the anxiety of my brain as a child. And also a picture in like why I slept in my sister's room and my mom's room, my parents' room a lot as a kid. Probably to their, my mom probably wished she had a deadbolt.

But maybe I'll start sleeping with my glasses on again. But then I would get in trouble. I would get in trouble because my mom would have to keep taking you back to the eye doctor because my glasses were always crooked. because I was sleeping on them and crushing them. Well, you have Patrick now. You have a man.

Oh, which... Right? He would protect you, right? He would, actually. He would. We talked about this... When we were on vacation, I was like, if somebody disrespected me or like, whatever,

like, because he doesn't get angry easily, I was like, what would you do? And a guy almost hit me on a bike. I've never seen him. like, what do I, how do I even say this? Like, agitated? He snapped at this man to the point that I was like, now I'm uncomfortable because he's, he was on a bike and then there was a stoplight.

And so he almost hit me, but then he had a stop and wait for the crosswalk. And I was like, Patrick, we have to go stand next to him now at the crosswalk. But he did yell and feel protective of me. So maybe he will, he can have the waspray on his night stand. Okay. Well, I have bad news about the waspry because of, Apparently Shannon just looked up what Google says. And again, my ex-husband was on deployments.

This was a long time ago that I was using it. But she says using was spray for self-defense is generally ineffective and not recommended by experts despite popular myths, which I fell for. While it can shoot 20 to 30 feet, wasspray is designed for insects, not humans, and often causes minimal temporary irritation rather than incapacitating an attacker. Additionally, using it as a federal crime. Is that a federal crime? Self-defense.

If you're in my room, I can squirt you with anything I want. It's self-defense. However, I don't like the word squirt. Spray. Spray. Well, whatever. But I mean, why would we not just have pepper spray? Why did we go to the was spray?

Because it shoots further. Well, why can't we invent a pepper spray that goes far? Like long shot. Long shot pepper spray. I think we have something here. Trademark. Tam. Damn, I'll add it to my list of ideas.

I have something I'm working on right now. I've ordered most all the things I need to put it together. Wait, is it like the... It has to do with that. Okay. But it has an additional thing. I'm going to need to get a patent. Okay, so you can't say too much.

I can't say too much. It doesn't exist. If you guys know somebody who can invent a long shot pepper spray or if it's invented already, let us know because why wouldn't we not just use that? How far does peppers for eight and spragal? I mean, well, Shannon says here that eight to 15 feet. That's pretty far. You can get a specialized gel or stream formula that will go 20 to 25 feet.

All right. So we don't have to trademark it. This is like the time that I wanted to invent mosquito patches. You know how pimple patches exist? Yeah. And you put it a little clear patch on your pimple and then you don't irritate it more. Yeah. Well, I get eaten alive by mosquitoes.

and I thought, I just need a clear little patch so that it puts in on the patch as medicine. And then you can't it. And then I'm not going to it and it's going to help it feel faster. And I thought I had an idea. I tell you what. I was like, this is going to be billions. Yeah. We're flying private everywhere we go.

That kind of come. Not that we would because, you know, the environment. Yeah. I was going to say the economy, but I mean the environment. But I'm just saying we'd live large. Yeah. They exist. I Google it and it's like, where do you want to buy them?

Target, Walgreen, CVS. We have them everywhere. Different brands, different sizes. It's a good idea. Such a good idea that somebody else thought of it, too. Yeah. It's like the time in college I thought of Netflix before Netflix came about. That stuff.

Oh, I have an update. Oh, on what? A TV show. Okay. That I said I would not watch. and I actually am now in the second season of. I don't remember. Tell me lies.

Oh, I haven't really been able to get into that. Well, here's the thing. It's not good. It's not my type of show. I see why people like it, but I didn't have anything to watch, and I like to watch stuff when I'm walking on the terminal, so I kept just going back to it,

and then I got into it. There is a lot of physical intimacy. There's a lot of what my mom and dad were doing. Yeah, there's a lot of that, And it's a lot of like, like, sometimes I'm like, thank God I'm not in public. Like, I wouldn't want to watch this on a plane or something, you know. But I'm kind of intrigued. I want to know what happens now.

So. Yeah. I didn't even finish season one. Yeah. I'm not recommending it, but also kind of, I'm in it now. Yeah. You're in. I'm committed.

Sounds like you're in. Tell me lies. Tell me. Did you watch beef? You need to watch beef. I haven't gotten to that. But then there's also some like a. a sexual part of that where I'm like, I don't need to see that. Like, I don't know why we have to

write that in. Tell me, tell me lies has to have it in there because it's like the whole show is like about their sex lives. Okay. I get that. And like dating and whatever. This part, I get this character like has this thing. He's addicted to like porn. Yeah. Okay. I don't know why that was hard to say. Why do you know if we had little kids listening? I was going to spell it. I was going go P.L. This is also, I think we forget, because I do the same thing too. Like, this isn't adult podcast. I know. This isn't like a children's podcast. I know, but some, I know we have moms that listen with their kids in the car and they're like, hey, I would just like a heads up, but we have been talking about serial killers. And you walking in on your mom and dad. And then, and then I'm like,

pause, pause, pause. I'm like, I literally was sitting there thinking, should I say the word or should I spell it? And then you were like, porn? And this character, he, so obviously he's watching that and doing other things. And it was just like so vulgar. Like I'm like, okay, I don't need, you can insinuate that he has an issue with that, but I don't need to see him in action doing that. Yeah. So it just was like, I don't. Was it that important into the storyline? It can be a part of the storyline without you showing me. Yeah. Him doing it. Yeah. Like, I don't need to see, like, I don't know. The older I, I'm just like, I don't, I'm good. I'm good, dude. And then now, and then I look around at all the other men and I'm like, what are y'all up to? Oh, yeah. I mean, this is the thing, oh, which is another, we'll close on what Shannon found about men and serial killers. Approximately 90 to over 93% of serial killers are men.

Which I guessed 95. Which I'm like, who are the 7%? Who are these women? Like, what are they like killing their husbands? Probably. Well, you have to be a serial killer. Yeah, but if you have multiple husbands and you kill them, that's serial killer. How many?

I mean, there's women I, her stories I've heard of. It's like, well, that's her third husband to die mysteriously. Who is the most famous female serial killer? Or it's like maybe women serial killers don't do it for the fame and men do. You know? Like. a lot of serial killer. Well, okay, not a lot.

I don't know. But like Ted Bundy, for example. He was very good looking and charming. Maybe it's, there are sociopaths, excuse me, psychopaths that are very charming and attractive. And it's like, you never know. You never, yeah, you never know until you do know. And then it's to lay. And then you just better say, can you just get it over with?

Or I have really bad diarrhea. Some of the most famous female serial killers include Eileen Warnos, who killed seven men in Florida, and Juana Barraza, the Mexican Lady of Silence, who targeted elderly women. Wow. Others include historical prisoners like... Poisoners. Oh. What? Did I say that sassy?

I have dyslexia. Okay. I didn't know if you changed that. because you thought it was a typo. No, my eyeballs change it to what I think it is. And I figured she's probably in prison. Others include historical poisoners, like Bell, Gunniss, suspected of over 40 murders and caregivers, such as Jane Topin, who confessed to killing 31 people. Oh, my, my.

That, I wonder if a lot of, because you know a lot of serial killers are from the olden days. Like people can't get away from it. Can't get away with it as easy now. Right. You know? Because there wasn't the FBI. Like there was no across state lines, there wasn't communication. So you'd even go from state to state and do stuff.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, DNA. Yeah. Testing. Forensics. Crazy. Could you ever do that like a, like the people that do that kind of work, like a forensic scientist or a corner. And they have to be on the scenes of these gruesome situations.

Like how do they compartmentalize that? Now, I don't think a lot of them do well. I actually would be so interested in being a forensic psychologist doing that kind of thing, except I think about like the schedules and like, yeah, the lifestyle is different. Like working, when I watch like a crime show, I'm like those jobs are so cool. And also that's meaningful work that they're doing. They're like, I mean, I guess we're all doing meaningful work, sure. You might be.

You're a therapist. You're like, are we? But then I'm like, I don't want to, they have, they work 24 hours a day sometimes. Yeah. It's like, I couldn't do that. Right. Yeah, and you can't just like go take a nap because you only have a certain amount of time before the crime becomes, you know, 48. Most, if they're not, people aren't found within 48 hours, it's like they're most likely dead.

So. Do you ever think about Savannah Guthrie's mom and like where, where? where she is. It's, yeah. I mean, occasionally I do in one of those moments is right now. Yeah. She just popped into my head and how we have no idea. Yeah.

And, yeah. And of course, there's people, I guess just the thing that she's elderly. And there's people that disappear all the time. So I feel bad about all of those people. But there's just a high profile case and the fact that it would happen to Savannah Guthrie's mom and not get figured out is just kind of crazy. Crazy. That yes, what's crazy is when it is that high profile and they have all of the help, they still can't figure it out. It's like, how did this person get away with it? They had to make some mistake. Like there's a person on a ring camera. Like how does, how? Like, how? How? How? I don't know. It's very weird. It's like you plan the perfect crime. Like, how do you do that? And like, why her?

I have some theories, but I don't really want to share them. Okay. I'll share them offline. So this was a really fun episode. Interesting. We went a lot of places. Shall we end with something positive? I don't know that I have anything. Yeah. I guess we could just end how we normally end.

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