The Bobby Bones Show - FEELING THINGS: Kat’s Creating Joy & Amy’s Revisiting Old Wounds

Episode Date: November 16, 2025

Amy and Kat are both feeling merry this week!! Kat because she just had the staycation of her dreams and she’s already decorated for Christmas (she’s in a season of creating as much joy as possible)! And Amy’s feeling merry because, well, it’s the most wonderful time of the year! However, she had some anxiety pop up around something she thought she’d worked through, so she shares about those feelings as well. Kat reminds her that healing isn’t about being “done” with a feeling…it’s about knowing how to move through it now. When familiar feelings show up again, it doesn’t mean you’re back at the beginning. It’s just a new moment to practice showing up differently…with more awareness, more tools, and more kindness for yourself. Also in this episode: a cozy stovetop simmer recipe (see below!), the move to make out of a second story should there be a fire (random, but helpful), and a thoughtful email from new listener Dave, who shares how burnout shifted his relationship with work and a reminder to actually communicate needs in a relationship…men aren’t mind readers. Smells Like Christmas: A Cozy Simmer Pot Recipe 1 large orange, sliced 3–4 cinnamon sticks 1 cup fresh cranberries 1 tablespoon whole cloves 2–3 sprigs of fresh rosemary (or a handful of pine needles if you’re feeling extra festive) Water to fill the pot   How To: Combine everything in a medium pot. Fill with water until ingredients are just covered (leave about an inch from the top). Bring to a gentle simmer over medium heat. Reduce to low and let it quietly bubble away (uncovered) as long as you’d like. Keep an eye on it and add more water as needed so it doesn’t dry out. Pro tip…you can reuse the same pot a few times! Just pop it in the fridge overnight and add fresh water before reheating.   This little ritual makes your whole house smell like orange, cinnamon, and nostalgia. It’s one of those small, sensory things that makes the holidays feel like the holidays. Get some Feeling Things merch by clicking HERE! (FeelingThingsPodcast.com) Sign up for the Feeling Things newsletter HERE! Watch us on Youtube HERE! Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // threecordstherapy.com // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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From the real stuff to the chill stuff and the in between. Sometimes the best thing you can do it just out. This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat and I'm coming in hot with my feeling of the day because I'm feeling it at a level eight.

Oh, eight out of ten? Mm-hmm. Okay, I'm at nine. I'm not trying to one up me. I'm not trying to one up you, I promise. I just really, I'm feeling, I'm feeling it. Okay. I'm feeling merry and joyful.

Same. Me too. The same feelings. Same. It's like I gave you these feelings. I also have a little bit of anxiety, but not about this topic at all. It's totally, totally separate. But it was like old feelings that came up, but we can get to that later because I don't want to kill the merry and joyful vibe because I'm with you.

I watched my first Christmas movie of the season. What was it? It was on Netflix. It was an old one. It's not even new. So it was called the Christmas contract. Wait, what was that one about? A contract with she took a boy to her hometown because her ex-boyfriend was bringing you a girl and she didn't want to show up alone.

So she took her best friend's brother and they had a contract to do it. Did they fall in love? You have to watch you find out. I think I've seen that, but you know, they all run together. It would be really funny if you were like, I watched, shoot, what? What's the one you were in gold? Holiday Harmony. I watched Holiday Harmony.

Yeah. I was like, oh, you watch your Christmas movie? No, but I did. should my boyfriend see that scene? I don't know. I want him to watch the whole movie because I think the whole movie is cute and adorable and awesome. And he does love Christmas movies because he started watching him with his daughter. I think she really enjoyed them. She liked watching him with their mom. And then when their mom died, it's like, he's like, well, I guess I have to step in now as the Hallmark Christmas movie lover. And now it's something they love to do, which we all watched

it last night, the Christmas contract. We watched it. The brothers watched. The daughter. Yeah. So it was a bit of a family affair and it was feeling good. And like in my kitchen right now, I have my stovetop, smelly Christmas stuff. We need a better name. Stovetop, smelly Christmas stuff. So I want to get to that.

But can I answer your question? Yeah. What was the question? Should your boyfriend watch? Oh yeah. I already forgot. A hundred percent. I feel like the whole family should watch.

If Patrick's seen it, then your boyfriend should definitely have seen the movie that you're in. Okay. Your acting debut, that's a thing deal. And that was really. to be like, hey guys, so now this is Christmas. This is like the first Christmas we've celebrated together. We're really close. I mean, I was with them last Christmas, but we were still new.

So now that we're like all a lot closer, what do I say? Like if we're all gathered around the TV and they're like, what are we going to watch tonight? And I'm like, how about the movie I'm in? You should have said, what about holiday harmony? And you say like what it's about and then you play it and then it's a surprise. Oh, like they don't know that I'm in it. and then my bathroom scene comes up. Okay.

Well, maybe we'll do that and I'll report back how it plays out. Wait, please do that. If they don't know already or if they wouldn't, maybe they know if you've been in a Christmas movie, but they don't know what it's called. Right. That would be so good. And then you should like film his reaction

when he sees you on the big screen. Okay. I'll report back if I do that. But the meriness and the joyfulness is alive and well because I think we're, tis the season. Tis the season. season. Even though there's other feelings happening, I just, those are dominating. So that's why I'm a nine. It's not just because you're an eight. Feels like it. So what's the stovetop, smelly stuff?

Well, we, you know about it, because we put it in our newsletter. But thank you for asking, just for podcast listeners. It is something that was in our newsletter that went out last Friday with our merch stuff. No way. Yeah. I wonder who puts the newsletter together. You do. which is cute for you to act like you didn't know what it was. It smells so good. It's like Christmas in a pot. I actually made it last year or the year before. I remember I went to the store and got all the stuff and Patrick was like,

why don't you just light a candle? Because this is different. And it's not the same thing. And you're creating a vibe. Yeah, it's cranberries. It's cinnamon sticks. It's cloves. It's a sliced up orange.

It's rosemary. It's water. in a pot on the stove. And you lied it. We had all of this in our newsletter, so this is why you need to sign up for the newsletter. Not only do we have little nuggets like this, which is the week before, you send out your potato soup recipe. So you just like never know what you're going to get. We have things that Kat and I are reading, watching, things we're loving.

The week before you put your Q-tips. Yes. You never know what you're going to get. Well, those Q-tips, to be fair. Or clutch. Are a game-changer. Before I found those Q-tips, I only bought Q-tips where it was round on both sides. Yeah.

I did not know people made a Q-tip round on one side, pointy on the other. It's good for if you're trying to clean up your nails. It's good if you're trying to clean up makeup around your nose, in your nose, in your eyes, your eyebrows. Yeah. Don't put it in your ear. Yeah, the pointy part in your ear is a little rough. But don't sleep on those special Q-tips. So I stand by that addition to the newsletter.

I'm saying. So you never know what you're going to get. And then on Friday in our newsletter, we also had our merch, which is so exciting. We'll link everything in the bio. If you are not on our newsletter yet, you can go sign up in the, not the bio, the show notes. It's also in our Instagram bio. Yeah, which is Feeling Things podcast. But sign up for our newsletter, but we'll also link to our merch in the show notes.

And I'll link to, or I'll copy and paste the. Christmas on the stove, smelly stuff recipe. Stove top Christmas. Stovetop simmers. Stovetop poterie. I just don't like the word, I don't really like the word popery. I never have. Because it reminds you of poop?

I don't know. Popery. Popery. Speaking of, can I tell that story? What story? You on the phone? Sure. Amy just had a phone call on speakerphone so I could hear

person she was talking to. She answered the phone normal. She said, hello. And the lady was like, it's the same. That wasn't her accent. But she had an accent. And she said something. And then Amy changed her accent to mimic the lady.

But I didn't even know I was doing that. All of a sudden, we heard you go, hello. Really don't. I didn't even know why y'all were laughing at me. And then I thought, okay, well, that tracks. Like, sometimes I just, you know, conformed to my environment. because I don't know. It's just like switch all of a sudden I was like that was funny.

I mean, I know it drug out a little bit. I was like, hello. Hello. But I mean, I didn't do it with other words, right? No, then you went back to normal, but I was just like. Oh, thank you. That would be awkward. Yeah.

I think just right away. I don't know. It's my first time talking about that person. I was a little nervous. So I think I just was like, oh, hello. That's how you did it kind of. Hello. Yeah. It reminds me of Mrs. Doubtfire.

Hello. Can I shock you? Have you never watched that movie? Never seen it. Yeah. Oh my gosh. There are so many movies you've never seen. It blows my mind.

Like, have you seen Elf? Yes. Oh, don't act like that's a queasy question. That's like more recent. Quintessential Christmas movie. Like, you have to watch it. And then there's more like Loki type Christmas movies like while you were sleeping. That sounds scary.

No. It's with Sandra Bullock. Oh, never seen it. And he gets hit by the train. And then, oh, you need to watch that. You would love it. It was my mom's favorite Christmas movie. So my sister and I watch it.

We'll put it on our list this year. Yeah, added to the list with all the other movies we were supposed to be watching. I think there was something else we were supposed to watch and I had two weeks to watch it. And I think that's past. I'm not watching it. I'm just sorry. I don't want to. I mean, I get it.

I don't think you, I get you know, I don't want to watch it again right now currently where I am in my life. Yes. There is a, there's a cat. Cryo Cats asking if there's a live action there was. I love Mulan, probably one of my favorite Disney movies. I don't want to go see the live action. Live action doesn't make me want to watch it anymore or less. No. I just not my thing. So, okay, you're feeling the joy and the, okay. The merry and joyful. The merry joyful. So I feel like I'm telling myself this. So I'll check it out with my actual therapist soon, but I feel like I've still, I've been in this stage for a while,

which I've talked about, where I'm just like, there's a lot of things that are not in my control and there's nothing I can do at all. I'm just in like a waiting stage. And it is not just waiting for the thing, but it's also like I can't do a lot of things that I normally would be doing right now, i.e. going trips, plan things, fun things like that. And because I can't do that, I can't distract myself. My favorite way to distract myself is planning a trip, even if I'm not going on a trip, even if it's in the future. I can't do that right now. So I have been trying to find little ways to create joy and excitement in my life while this other thing is happening in the background. And so I won, what am I? Staycation. I'm on staycation a couple weeks ago. And it was amazing.

And I highly recommend doing that, especially if you, have lived somewhere for a while and there are so many things that feel normal to you because you live there but you've just never done them because you live there you know what I mean yeah and then so I want a vacation and then I decorated for Christmas full decorated for Christmas the day after Halloween two days after Halloween November 2nd and I on it man yes and so I I feel a lot of marrying from my Christmas but joyful from like these things we went to places in this city that I grew up in that I never have done before. And I will say some advice, like if people are able, you may just have to do it on a weekend.

You may have to work the full work week and then you can do a staycation on the weekend. But you and Patrick, you took time off. Like we even altered our podcast schedule because you're like, hey, I'm really trying to have off as if I was actually on vacation and in another town. It was almost like you were leaving, but you weren't. and then y'all even had your mom like drive you around okay so we went to but so but i'm i'm giving people pro tips of like how can you make it feel like save money you're saving but doing more okay and and you took off work and like you you still got your work done you took off work

and you called your mom yeah so i know not everybody has that option but i'm just making i'm painting a picture that it wasn't like just, you know, a Saturday or Sunday. Like, y'all really were intentional about it and made it a whole thing. And I think that helped make the experience. Like, you got your work done because Patrick also has responsibilities. But since you planned ahead, you're like, oh, let's look at the calendar and let's figure out how we can make this work. Just in case anybody else has the flexibility to do that, I feel like that helped make the experience. A hundred percent. Because that much more. Yeah, we were at home, but we also weren't doing a lot of things with other people. So we were just spending a lot of time together as if we were on vacation.

And my mom didn't just drive us. So we went to Erington Vineyard, which is a vineyard, maybe 25 minutes from our house. I'd only been once 10 years ago. And Patrick had never been. And it's close by. Why wouldn't we do that? So on Friday, that's what we did all day is we packed a picnic and then he went on a run with me outside he has never done that before and then we packed a picnic and went we ubered there and it was like $20 maybe $1520 we looked for ubers when we were getting ready to leave just guess how much an Uber was at that time it was like 4 o'clock 60 bucks 80 oh my god I mean I was guessing high on the 60 just because you 80 dollars acted like it was going to be a lot. So I texted my mom when I was like, hey, mom, what are you doing? So she was,

yeah, she was, well, she lives right there too. I guess you live over there too. And she picked us up. It was five stars, best Uber ride. She showed up with, she had made mummy dogs, which are hot dogs wrapped in sourdough bread. She made them for my nephew and she was bringing them to him. So she brought us to, it was literally like we were in on vacation. We get into her car, our Uber, and she's like, I brought you guys waters and I have two mummy dogs for you. She even packaged up individual mustard and ketchup packets for us. So we had a snack on the way home. So free Uber with snacks from my mother. Thank you, Jody. I mean, that would make me merry and joyful. Yeah. And then also I will say ever since we've gotten the merch, like you're a vibe,

I know you have this whole experience, so you're like, you know, got this energy about you, but you've been living in our sweat set for four days. So it's a hoodie in sweatpants and cats living in it. And I feel like your energy around it is so good. As soon as I picked it up, I texted you. I will say, if you're looking for something, I love a comfy anything. And I've been looking for a lot more comfy sets and I've been ordering them from different places.

Half of them I've sent back. I've not taken this off. I took it off to wash. I will say that. And it still fits perfecto after I washed and dried it. And it's a matching hoodie with sweatpants. And it has like a feeling things like circle on the hoodie. And then it also has it on the pants too. Which people can go look. They might be. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see it. But if you're listening on the podcast, then go check it out. But I feel like a sweat set has made you happy. Your staycation has made you happy. And then I think the excitement of what you have that you're talking, you're you have going. on in the background. Like Kat and I both have things happening in our life that we're not talking about really publicly. But I think your your situation is rounding a corner where it's kind of getting exciting. We're getting good news and we're getting closer versus we're just like, we don't know what's going to happen kind of thing. Whereas my situation is bringing up like it's good,

it's a good reminder of how two things can be true at the same time because I do feel this excitement and Mary and joy towards this season. I love this time of year. And I want to go all in on that, especially since I have my kids and then I have now this other family that I get to celebrate with. But side by side with that, I have this other thing going on that is a lot. But it's not as overwhelming, I think, as it would be if I hadn't experienced something similar before. So it's sort of great because it's not my first rodeo, you know? However, today, literally I had to do something with regarding like finances and logging into stuff and I didn't want to do it. And I felt this like uneasiness in my stomach and I used to get this thing in my throat with my finances like anytime I had to address it or look at a spreadsheet or numbers or anything. And I felt some of that stuff come up again. And I was like, oh, I thought I dealt with this. Like we had graduated and I now know how to log into stuff and I don't get. queasy about it. And I had to go log in. And it really was to check something, normally I

maybe would be excited about it. But all those old feelings came back that I just had to power through. And I didn't let it overwhelm me or stop me. Well, I didn't really have a choice. But I think back in the day, I would have found a way to escape it or delegate it or figure out. But I was like, nope, just log in, get the information, figure it out, and move on. And so, So to anybody else, if like something comes up that you haven't felt in a couple of years and you think, well, shoot, I've done all this work. And I was feeling empowered. And I've even talked about how much more confident I feel about it and how I don't get that lump in my throat anymore. And then it comes back. So then you feel like, oh, does this mean I'm going backwards?

And I guess maybe it could depending on your situation. Like it makes me think of eating disorders and even, you know, alcoholics. And if they're in recovery or, you know, or whatnot. And you said something about recovery when we were talking about eating disorders and you were like, that's why they call it recovery. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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that's why they call it recovery. You're never recovered. It's always there. And so looking at my financial situation, kind of like how I look at eating disorder recovery, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Like there is some sort of thing that's in me and it may pop up next year. It may pop up next month. It might go away and pop up in five years.

Like it may be something. thing that is always within me. But it was also cool to see that I just take the next move and do the next thing and the next thing. And then, voila, it was done. And the pain was minimal. Whereas if I had, I don't know, the word that's coming to my mind is succumb. Like if I had given in to all the anxiety that was coming up, then I could have prolonged that whole process and it would have made it more dreadful. Yeah. Well, I think that you're- So that's growth. Yeah. Even though it felt like backwards.

It's like, it was like backwards but growth. This is good that you're saying this because a lot of people, this happens all the time where I thought I got over this. I thought I worked through this. I thought this was an issue for me anymore. And life happens. And like you said, that's always a part of me. It's why people say I'm in recovery or I'm recovering versus I am recovered.

You won't really hear somebody say, I'm a recovered addict or I'm a recovered, whatever. I'm in recovery from. And what you demonstrated is I still had these feelings and I'm still a human that is affected by things and can feel things. And now I have better tools and I know more and I'm better equipped to deal with them. So even like me, I'll have days. I've talked to you about them. I have days where my body image is like killing me, it feels like. And what do I always say? Oh, I have my coping skills. I have to use my skill. today. I'm using my skills. I'm using my skills. Because I still am a female living in this world where stress and things affect me, but I know how to deal with those things better. Sometimes I need

some extra help. I know how to ask for that help now, or I know what to do when I'm in that place. And it sounds like you had an experience where this came up again. And instead of shutting my computer and going and going and ask somebody else to do this for me, I worked through this even though it was hard. You working through something and processing something doesn't mean feelings go away. It means you learn how to cope with those feelings better. Yeah, nor does it mean that I've lost any progress that I made. I do see how those thoughts could enter, though, and someone may feel that way.

But I just want to send encouragement to anybody else. Because we had a question recently on the Bobby Bone show. I do a Best Bits, where Morgan does a Best Bits every weekend, and she rotates people on the show. and a couple weeks ago was my week and a question that came in was about an disorder and someone said, are you ever fully recovered? And I wish I would have had what you said about, well, that's why it's called I'm in recovery. I'm not recovered. Well, I did answer it in that way. I just didn't have that language. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's such a easy way to put it. Like, it's sort of similar to grief. Like, it's always there. You always carry it. But the load doesn't

feel as heavy. Like we've used the backpack example before. Like if grief is in a backpack and you're carrying it around, like some days that backpack may feel really heavy. And other days, you're like, okay, the backpack's still here. But I can live my life with the backpack. Yeah. I'm walking around fine. I'm walking around with ease. Like, it will always be like, there's not a day that goes by that, I mean, honestly, there's days go by that I don't think of my mom and my dad. That can't be true. I'm sure there's days where like they don't cross my mind. I'm just saying there's, days, if they do cross my mind, I always miss them. But of all the days, is that weird to say? I feel like you gave me a weird look like, you don't think of your mom and dad every day?

I think you do. You still realize it. Okay. I think you, like, even looking in your backyard, you see the chair or the birds. I was thinking of your. My rocking chair, my mom's rocking chair. Oh, I sold that on Facebook Marketplace. Okay. So you don't do that. We sold it. Update. I know we discussed me doing it. And I thought that ultimately we decided on here that I was going to I thought we were going to refurbish it. Oh. But like, great. I'm glad you sold it.

Great, great, great, great. Good for you. That was the right thing to do. Hello. I thought, um. I think you probably think of your parents more than you realize. It's just integrated into you. Yeah, like I have my mom's.

I don't have it on right now, but like I normally, I don't have on my pinky ring from my mom right now because it's, um, a little teeny tiny diamond fell out and I'm getting it fixed. So it's the only reason. But I always have that on. So you're right. Like I probably look at that every day and think of her, but I just don't. The Greek feels different.

It's more integrated. So you see that and the feeling is still there, but it's a different kind of feeling. Like my mom, what are we like almost mid-November now? So my mom, her, what do you call it? Death anniversary. Death anniversary, her heaven birthday. What is it called? I feel like the day she got her wings.

That sounds like a country song. I feel like people call her, yeah, her birthday is coming up in December. I don't know how I feel about it like come December, but her death a day. What do people call that? The anniversary of her death. I know, but I feel like there's a better way to say that. The day she got her wings. Let's call it her heavenly birthday.

Okay. The day she got her wings was October 27th. And my sister's birthdays right after that, October 28th. And those two days are always kind of weird because, Because my sister's birthday, my sister just texted me a red balloon because we associate red balloon with my mom died. And I texted the red balloon back. And then my sister was traveling. She was in Austin and she was doing family things there. So we didn't even really talk that day. And then it was weird because some some anniversaries of that have been really, really hard.

And this year it wasn't at all. Like I sent the red balloon and of course I missed her, but I didn't, I wasn't overwhelmed. And I think normally when I feel overwhelmed, I'll do something like, okay, well, now we need to do something special or let's go on her mom so that I can have like more peace come over me. But I didn't, I didn't do that. And it was weird that I didn't even talk to my sister that day. I tried to call her. She didn't answer.

Busy. But she was. But you also had a lot going on that day. I will say that. Like that was a good point. That was a hard day for you in general. I think maybe also this team, this time of year, not every year or this time of year, but what I have going on right now, you're right.

Okay. I will say I felt it, but it wasn't like as hard. Like I didn't have a breakdown. Maybe I need to. So why do you think you have to have a breakdown to miss somebody? I don't know. Good question. Because then if you don't break down, do you even really miss them?

Do you miss your mom? Yes. Okay. I was joking. I don't think you have to have a breakdown. But I think what I'm hearing too is usually it feels heavier. But also too, you're right. Other things were heavier.

Yeah. So it's like I only have so much capacity to feel. And so the mom stuff actually seemed manageable. But that's okay. I feel like it's so it'll be every year's different. Yeah. This is an example of that. And I think to speak on what you were saying before, this year you,

it felt like it was manageable, it didn't feel as heavy. That doesn't mean next year you won't be in a place where you do cry. That doesn't mean that like you're bad at grieving. That means that grief is not linear, right? And growth oftentimes is not linear. Like we in our heads think it's supposed to be, but things are going to affect us at different times in different ways based on what else is going on within our environment.

And you have a lot going on within your environment. that's probably taking up a lot of space from these other things. Yeah. Shannon sent us other ways to say anniversary of her death. You ready for them? Remember and stay. Okay. Commemoration.

Okay. And angelversary. Could you imagine if I was like, my mom texted you? Today is my mom's angelversary. I know that. I wouldn't say anything negative because I don't want to judge somebody who, if that's how they cope with that.

That's true. I can't see you saying that and I can't see myself using that. I think I would just say anniversary of her death. But I agree. I don't really like that. It's kind of a mouthful. And it's like, don't do, don, done, done. Like.

Anniversary of her death. The day she died. Yeah. The day the music died. I think heaven birthday is cute. Her heavenly birthday. Yeah. I think it's sweet.

Okay. Let's hope she's there. I'm joking. She is. She is. too heavy obviously uh i'm just kidding right yeah for sure yes yes yes i know obviously duh of course yeah mm-hmm question that doesn't come up what so i have a update okay about what two updates kind of one for anybody who's wondering my treadmill's working

oh yeah you know people were wondering And I will say somebody came and fixed it. Last week I was talking about like, I have to take it down the stairs. This is going to suck. They sent somebody to fix it for free. He was very nice. And he also told me it might have just been because I plugged it in wrong. But he waited to tell me that until after he rewired, rewired.

Rewired. You know ours and Ws are hard for me. That's hard. Yeah. He rewired the whole thing. And then he was like, it could have been just, you plugged it in wrong. And I was like, okay, thanks for being kind about that. That brings me to upstairs, which brings me to my fire alarm.

Which brings you to the question that doesn't come up? Yes. Okay. So after I had the issue with my smoke detector that I talked about last week, and I had the lady talking to me. Yeah, that was weird. So we now have, we haven't fixed it. We just took it off.

So I started kind of panicking. not super seriously, but like a little bit thinking in the back of my head, well, if there is a fire in our bedroom and we have to escape and we cannot get out of our bedroom, we're going to have to jump out our window, which led me to, how would you jump out of the window? It's a two-story building. Do you know how to do this? A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits. the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

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I also bring a bit of advice into the mix so we too can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pull out what you already have inside. We're coming into this world, fighting for our lives. All I'm going to do is pull out what you already got inside.

We're there to support and celebrate each other. And that's not like your story versus my story. my story. You're going to walk up and over that dang mountain. You're not just going to put your mind over it. Yep. Yep. Exactly. And if I can't walk up and over it, I'm going to go through it. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I have thought about ordering one of those throwdown letters from Amazon. Oh. I just haven't ever done it. Wait, what? It's like a little, you know, rope with like little wooden, you know, it's not very sturdy at all.

But it's for emergency. But it'll work in an emergency and you throw it out and then you like climb down. So you can order those on Amazon. Okay. I will be ordering that because carry on. Do you know how to jump out of a window though? I'm thinking. I'm thinking what I would do probably is I would get a sheet, my sheets.

Okay. And make my own rope. Okay. Like is I not jumping out? You're not jumping out. What do you have some special way to jump and land and not hurt yourself? Like I would have, my sheet won't go all the way down, but I could maybe get down. Enough.

Enough. What are you connecting the sheet to so it doesn't fall? Good question. Don't know yet. Maybe my curtain rod, because it's screwed into the wall. Yeah. Could I tie it and then, yeah, hang down. I'm still going to have to jump, but just maybe not as far.

Okay. I'm thinking like the door, it's burning. you have 10 seconds to get out of here. The smoke is coming. Get out. Okay. So you're thinking I have some time to make a contraption. I guess I'm just going to have to jump.

Okay. Do you know how to jump though? No, do you? Okay. So I'm glad I'm saying. Okay, I do now, but I'm glad I'm talking about this because I asked Patrick this and he acted like it was like, well, everybody knows this. I said, Patrick, if we had to jump out of our windows, how do you land?

Because you don't want to land on your bottom because your whole, your. your tailbone will completely shatter. If you land just on your feet, your legs are going to shatter. And then like, you can't land on your hands. You can't let it. Like, how do you land where you might be able to walk again? Because two stories is kind of high. Yeah.

And we have concrete underneath of ours. So he goes, I said, Patrick, how would you jump out of this window? And he goes, tuck and roll. What? He just said tuck and roll. I just, what are you talking about? Tuck and roll. I mean, that sounds like stop, drop and roll.

Like, live different. Tuck and roll. I'm not tucking. I can't tuck and roll out of a window. Like, what? No, he means when you, so I looked it up. I actually like Googled this. I was like, how do you?

He was like, everybody knows this. And I was like, I'm a part of everybody. And I don't know. Oh, oh. So you jump out of the window and right before you hit the ground, you tuck and roll. So like I was picturing. So he would just hit the ground as a roll. Because I'm picturing he's like in the window.

He's like, cannonball. And he's like rolling out of the window. Like, how does it? how how how you just do a front flip out of the window okay so basically it says the internet says and this is what he was saying is when you land you land and as soon as you land you roll so you're smoothing the impact so the impact doesn't all go through your legs i mean i just don't know how i'm going to think i think i need to practice i do need to practice but not through the two-story window but i also was thinking maybe this is more this is going to sound a little bit sexist but i don't mean it that way

And maybe this is more natural for men because they're like football. He was like in football, if you're going to, whatever, you roll so you don't hurt yourself as much. Or you slide or you do whatever. So they're like taught how to. And he played rugby. So I'm assuming there's a lot of tucking and rolling where nobody ever told me. Classic. Classic rugby move.

Yeah. He's so manly. So manly. Patrick is so manly. I will say every time that he's done something recently, he'll be like, was that masculine. Oh, so does he know? I showed him because I didn't want him to find out about that. Yeah. If y'all don't know what we're talking about, listen to last week's episode. Yeah. He, he knew exactly what I meant when I said it. But then now he's like, was that masculine enough for you?

And I'm like, yeah, it's any who. Anywho, anywho, tuck and roll. So if you live in a two-story building and there might be a fire, if you have to jump out, which we hope that you have the time to make the sheet ladder. We should put the ladder in our newsletter. Can you give me that? Yeah. Oh. Shannon already has it.

It'll be on our next upcoming newsletter. So make sure you sign up because you probably can't Google it yourself. We just make it easy for you. You never know. Oh, yeah. Okay, well, so now we know how questions that don't come up. I didn't know how to do that. And now I know.

So thank you for teaching me. I feel like you saved my life. Honestly. Potentially. Potentially. We might. we won't know until we know but i'm like trying to figure out how i'm in a practice because i would be scared to like jump from my kitchen counter i think we need to go jump off stuff yeah but i'm nervous i need

to stretch more before or like because i've got to build up like muscles and and then form and what you could do if you had time honestly i know the fire's coming the fire's coming but could you go in your closet and put on like joey from friends and put on like every clothing item that you have like every sweatshirt, hoodie, jacket, and then jump out. That's actually really, if there's a way to tie, like, a pillow around your bottom? Yes. Or on your knees? Can you, like.

And can you jump with a pillow and then roll into the pillow? Mm-hmm. Okay. So we can add some stuff to the tuck and roll. But I do think maybe we should go to a park and jump off things. Start practicing. Okay. Practicing our tuck and roll.

So if you see us tucking and rolling in a park nearby, just. We could go to like a gymnastics place and practice like tucking and rolling into the foam pit. Okay. Oh, we could just, I was going to say, what do we say to the gymnastics people when we book a session? Like, hey, we just want to practice. You can do adult sessions. I've done it before. They're going to be like, what do you want to come do?

And we're like. Free, free form. We would like to practice jumping out of our window in case there's a fire. I don't think they ask like, what are you? What are you training for or whatever? You just say like I'm, I'm an athlete. Like, I want to practice. Like, I'm an athlete.

What do you mean? What am I here for? I'm here to do athletic things. And you can just sign up. Yeah. Okay. Talk and roll. All right. I have an email from a new listener named Dave. Hey, Dave. You don't know what that's from? Do you know what it's from? No. But I was hoping you did because whenever I saw that his name was Dave, I had in my mind, hey, Dave. So if anybody listening right now knows what that's from, like, do you know what? up. That's what? That's about a commercial. Yeah, Budweiser. So do you think Dave is like a beer commercial? Hey Dave. I don't know. It could be a movie, a TV show, a commercial, a meme. Nothing. It could just be from like, I know it could be from nothing. It just could be from my brain. I could have had a conversation with somebody named Dave in your head and that's what you remember.

Like, I don't know. But I'm going to, I'm going to read his note. And I just want to give a shout out because not only is he a new listener and he's already emailing. Yeah. But he is also offering some advice. Okay, Dave. Hey, Dave. Let's go. New listener.

Give me that advice. Emailing because we've gotten some really good emails lately from listeners that have been listening a long time. And like you don't have to email right away at all because these listeners had not, they were like, I've been listening for years. This is my first time emailing. And I've thought about emailing for two or three years now and I'm finally sitting down to do it.

And like, that's really special. Like, if you take the time to sit down and email us, that's not lost on us. But he just started listening on October 14th. So he hasn't even listening a full month. Oh, my gosh. Hey, Dave. Hey there, Amy and Kat. I just listened to your podcast on burnout, October 14th.

And enjoyed the whole show. Good to hear the male caller who listens as a way to learn more about being a good partner with his wife. Us guys can always use some help in that category. Amy, you mentioned the meh massages from your boy. boyfriend. My question to you is, do you ask him to do anything differently or just receive what he gives? Feel unsatisfied and not give feedback. Oh, you found a good knot. Can you dig into that area a little more? That feels good. Like things. So Dave is saying, like, speak up. Tell him what you need. Don't hope he

guesses right and then feel disappointed when he doesn't guess right. Y'all know we are not mind readers. So lay it out there for us to digest and act on. Let's go, Dave. Hey, Dave. And why I listen in first place, the burnout is real. I finally learned to let go and not be 100% attached to my email and phone when my dad was in his last days. Oh, his dad has a, maybe he's a, has an angel anniversary or a heaven birthday. What did we decide? Heavenly birthday. Yeah, we didn't say angel versary. Dave, tell us what you say. A coworker mentor encouraged me to go a day without looking at email and see if the world continued. It did not blow up. Since then, I have learned that I can go for larger blocks of time without staying connected.

It has really helped me. A new and happy listener and probably soon to be a subscriber. Dave. Dave. By this point, he probably has subscribed in the newsletter. So he's emailed, offered advice, and subscribed for the newsletter. Subscriber. He probably is walking around.

Well, they haven't shipped out yet, but I wonder if he's ordered a hoodie. And that or a hat. Oh, here's our hats. But also, he could have for people on YouTube. Sick. What does it say, Kat? It depends. It says it depends.

This makes me think of this time. I tried to do this viral video with Kat where I was like, hey, you know, like you therapists rank their coping skills. Yeah. So it's like journaling. And Kat's like, well, it depends. And it's like going for a walk. Oh, it depends. And it's like, just say if you think it's a one or a 10.

But Kat couldn't do it because it depends. She has integrity and it really depends. She can't just say something to 10, which when for somebody else, it might be a one. Right. So it depends. And then with the let them theory and Mel Robbins, it's sort of like, okay, yeah, let them works at times, but also it depends. So there's so many things in life where it's not black and white. This is a representation, even though the hat is sort of off white and brown.

Life is gray. It's not, life is. Life is not... An opportunity to make a gray hat that says it depends. It's fine. I kind of like this color combo better. But our sweatsuit is gray. We couldn't make everything gray.

Yeah. And our t-shirt is sort of gray. And it says half the day you need to have. But it depends, represents the gray area in life where if you're feeling like it has to be this one way or another, because sometimes we've been conditioned that way to be. be more black and white with our thinking. This hat is an exhale. It's a deep breath and an exhale to be like, you know what? It depends. Right? Yes. I think that was the best natural commercial for that hat that anybody could have ever. Except for, we got to tell you. Oh yeah. The hat arrives flat brimmed.

It's not a flat brimmed hat. It is a you you have to mold it with your hands yourself. Which I didn't know. I'm sure Dave probably knows how to do this with a hat because sort of like Patrick with talk and roll. Like guys probably just know how to do hats better than girls. But Kat's like, oh no, this hat is flat. It looked so ridiculous. But then finally, Camille, who's doing our merch, she's like, hey guys, I've never had any trouble bending the brim. So if you're having any trouble, just keep messing with it. Like, keep, you can't.

She sent it really kindly. Hello. Yeah. You don't want to like break it in half, but. But like you just like fold from the and like do like a scoop. So it depends. A lot in life depends. Thanks, Dave, for your email. Also I was going to say subscriber, he could have been our 1,000th YouTube subscriber. Maybe. Do you think I took that as he was subscribing to the newsletter? I subscriber to anything. You could subscribe and be a follower of the podcast and subscribe to the podcast. Yeah, we finally got a thousand subscribers on YouTube and I found out because I got an email because I don't, I didn't go to the YouTube. I got an email from YouTube and they were

like, congratulations, you hit a thousand and I opened it up and it was all these falling bananas. It was kind of like a little dopamine hit. I don't know. I mean, YouTube has to know what they're doing. Yeah. Like something was rewarding about the falling bananas. And you want to get more. They were like, let's like go bananas. You just hit a thousand subscribers or something. So I thought It was cute. I think when you get 100,000, they send you a plaque. Sweet. So go to 100,000. Yeah. Here we go. Except for you and I are the, we're not big on, like, the best at promoting it. The YouTube? The YouTube? Yeah. The YouTube. But it will happen naturally. It is happening naturally. If you're listening and you have a internet. If you have a. Subscribe to us on YouTube. phone. Yeah, subscribe to us on YouTube. Just throw us a little, that's like giving us a thank you. You just subscribe. Yeah. Even if you don't watch it over there, you can just subscribe. We'd love if you did

watch it. I don't really know what that does for us. Like I, I'm sort of old school with this, like podcasting. Like, I like that we just have listeners that listen on podcast. Well, they can listen on the podcast and subscribe to our YouTube. I know. I just haven't figured out what that's doing for us yet. It's making us get banana emails. I wonder what they send you at 2000. Yeah. That dopamine hit, though, is real. Like when I did Pilates the other day, did I tell you?

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need. to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast,

a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become. when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change.

We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of IHard Media, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing.

I'm talking to leaders from the entertainment industry to finance and everywhere in between. This season on Math and Magic, I'm talking to CEO of Liquid Death Mike Cicario, financier and Public Health Advocate, Mike Milken, take-to-interactive CEO, Strauss-Zalnik. If you're unable to take meaningful creative risk and therefore run the risk of making horrible creative mistakes, then you can't play in this business. Sesame Street CEO, Sherry Weston,

and our own chief business officer, Lisa Coffey. Making consumers see the value of the human voice and to have that guaranteed human promise behind it really makes it rise to the top. Listen to math and magic, Stories from the Frontiers and Marketing on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here?

We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts too many. of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about, like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more.

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What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave? And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I'm not. I'm not getting in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this, the night before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever.

And of course, family stories. They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized Game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. I signed up for one Pilates class and I hadn't done it in months and I was going to a new place. And you're assigned a locker when you get there.

Like whatever bed or machine you're on, they're numbered like one through 15. I love that you called them beds. Did they call them beds? I'm calling it that. I love that. Because I lay on it sometimes and do nothing. Like say I have bed number seven or machine. Machine number seven.

I'm going to a workout nap. Then that means I'm locker seven and I can go put my stuff in locker seven. When I got out of my first class and I went to this class on a code, my friend had a code, so I went for free. Cost me nothing. I go to my locker and they put a card in my locker that said like, congratulations, Amy, you're a Pilates princess. You just finished your first class. Guess what I did? Guess what I did?

You bought a package? Now I'm a Pilates princess. You bought a package. I bought a year. Stop it. Yeah. Like, they know what they're doing. My dopamine hit was so high.

But here's the thing. They gave me a code. The code was 20% off. Well, they know how to get you. So 20% off for a pack of five. Okay, but now I'm a Paudi's Princess, so I have to show up way more. Like, I'm in.

The class was so good, too. Like, I really loved it. Guess what? I've been every day since I signed up every single day. Let's go. That's why sometimes I just lay there like it's a bed. But I've been there. Can I tell you some insider baseball of the gym atmosphere of selling?

Yeah. So. They got me. Well, no. It was a, but it was a, it is dopamine. I was fresh up of a dopamine hit from a good workout. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding.

Then I open the locker and I have a card congratulating me, calling me a Pilates princess and giving me a discount code. I mean, that's probably. And then I purchased something. Did you get, so you bought that? Did you get any merch to? Were they like, if you buy merch? Well, you have to have those.

Yeah, but I already have plenty of socks, but I needed their socks. Did you get a discount on their socks? No. You're like, well, I'm going to buy these socks for you since you gave me this discount. Yeah. But the discount was sick. It was good. 20% off of the year, yeah.

So that was where I say, I did the math. I saved the most money. And now I'm a Pilates Princess, so I have to show up. Because you might be a queen eventually. Maybe. Here's a thing. To get your money's worth of that, you have to go the whole year. That's why I'm going.

But you don't need to go. go every day. Like, you just go a couple times a week or a year. But right now I'm motivated and I'm in and I'm feeling stronger. Like I already, on the bands, like I was having to do, you know, the different resistance levels like say, I was having to always go down

from the recommended. They're like, just so you know for this move, it's recommended, red, red, red, but, you know, if you need to go red, red, red, blue, you're good. And I was always having to, I was like, shoot, I can do red red red, blue, I got to go red, red, yellow. Like, that's, and so, and now, red, red, red, blue,

No way. Which, you know what's around the corner. Red, red, red. I know. So I'm getting stronger. Also, I feel better. Maybe my merry and joyfulness is from like... Because you're Pilates Princess.

Yes, and I'm moving my body. Like, endorphins are legit. Endorphins make you happy. And happy people don't kill their husbands. Boom. Just saying. So... Name that movie.

Legally blonde. Okay. I've seen that one. Wouldn't be crazy if I hadn't seen Legally Blonde? Not really. You haven't seen like a lot of. of classics. Okay, I worked over 10 years ago at this gym and my job was front desk, but I had to do sales. So I had to sell the memberships. And I wasn't very good at it because

it gave me too much. I don't like selling things to people. I'm like, if you want it, here it is, but they were, what their motto was you get every class, the first class is free to get people in. And like, I don't remember the percentages of it, but because people are like, so hopped up on the endorphins after a workout. They are most, if they're going to buy it, they're going to buy it then. They're not going to like, I mean, sometimes they do go home and think about it and buy it, but like that's when you like wanted to lock it in. And they put so much pressure on us to put pressure on them.

And I knew I was the annoying salesperson. You know that feeling? Do you know that feeling? Oh, yeah. Oh, you're like, I know you don't want to buy this, but I have to give you this spiel anyway. Anyway, if you didn't buy it, then what they did is we'll give you another class for free but if you don't end up buying a membership, you have to pay for that class. So people would come back in and they would be on endorphins again and then I would get them.

So that's how they do it. Now, we didn't do the cards and we didn't call people like kickboxing queens. Yeah. We should have because that would have been a little extra umph. But I think what your studio is doing it, they're doing it right. Oh yeah. No. I mean, props to them.

So anybody, if you own a fitness studio, you used to go. card in somebody's locker. It's all you got to do. A princess. Like they're depending on their, I'm sure Dave probably wouldn't want to be. Maybe, maybe Dave would. I don't know Dave's preference, but whatever. You just, it's cute.

It was good. You know what's something I just learned about both of us? I used to work front desk at a gym. You know how we find our similarities? We're the same. We're the same. What kind of gym? Yeah, Gold's gym.

I worked the front desk. I didn't have to sell any memberships, though, but it was right after I got out of college and I was living with my sister. And I needed to get a job because I didn't have a job. My job yet. I got into sales after that. But it was because I ran into a friend when she came in to work out there. And she was like, oh, yeah, I'm working with Luke over at AGM.

And I'm like, what? So then I call Luke. And she was like, yeah, I think we might be hiring. And I'm like, Luke, what up? He was my BFF in high school. And I was like, are y'all hiring? And he was like, yeah, let me set you up an interview. So it was all that.

Like, you never know. Like, I did not want to go work the front desk at Golds. but it's like that is what led me to my next job. So sometimes you just got to do what you got to do. Like I was working, I had to get there at 5 a.m. And I was working with some 18 year old kid. And here I am. You're like 21.

No, it was like 22. But I was like, I was out of college. And he was in high school. And then my classmates that are starting their professional careers were coming into work out. And I'm like, do you need a towel? You know, but no shame. Like, I, I think at the time, I wouldn't have a problem with it now because it's like,

whatever, like I understand life better. But I think at the time, I was embarrassed. Yeah. Because I was like, don't forget to beep your car. Excuse me. Your card didn't scan. You need to check in because they were, they were sticklers about beeping the card and making sure people had a towel.

What if they were laid on their payments? Did you have to, like, be like, you didn't. No, I wasn't even that high level. Like, I was like, like, literally bottom of the, like, I was, started from the bottom. I was with the 18 year old punk kid from like the just had finished high school. And he's, he's like, you went to college for this? And I was like, yep. Yep. I did. Yeah. Could you fold the towels really well? Yeah. Okay. You know, skills. I had skills, you know, but. Did your gym have a. I had to wake up so early. Oh, my sister's

husband would talk about this. Like, I had to wake up. so early. This before I got into radio, which then I learned what early, early was doing a morning show. But I had to be at Golds at 5 a.m. And I would go to bed at night and I would be so, dreading, waking up, but I would sleep in my uniform. And then, uh-huh. And then I would wake up and just get my car and go to work. Yeah. I would sleep. And it was like, a black, like, ugh, the material was horrible, but black with like gold stripes. Ew. You had to wear black pants. And I would just sleep in it. And that was when I was living with my sister's little, it was more like a shed, but we painted it.

And it didn't have a bathroom. Well, it was the only space. And it was either that or go, like, live with my mom. Did that air conditioning? No. You lived outside. I lived outside. And it didn't have a bathroom.

And I was too scared to walk into their house at night. I would pee in a vase. Yeah. Yeah. I've come a long way. You were working at Gold Gym and you lived out of the same. inside and you peed in a base. Yes. Oh my gosh. This is like the story. You know, you hear of those people where they're like,

you know, like, Jewel was like, before I was famous, I slept in my car. You're like, I slept in the shed and I peed in a base. Yeah. I mean, but I thought, but we painted the inside purple. And then the outside we painted to match their house. Could she not let you sleep on the couch inside with the air of? I was excited about living in the shed. It's like my own space. Okay. We had a little makeshift closet. Are you sure? Did it have electricity? Yeah, we had a, I'm sure. Yeah, we had a light. Yeah, I had a light. You brought a lamp in there? Like a, you know, in the ceiling where you pull that string down.

Do you have any pictures of this, you think? Hmm. Did you ever invite anybody over to your shed? I know the vase looked like bamboo. Yeah, I did go on. To bring a date. A guy at gold. So, so while I was, I have my own place. You want to come over. Yeah. So while I was working at Gold's Gym, I got to work out there for free. And so one day after a workout. Actually, I think I had already, did I move up to my sales job yet?

No, because once I got my sales job, I got an apartment with roommates because I could afford it. But I must have just been working out one day because when I was going to the parking lot, this guy that was also working out, I did work there at the time because I would check him in and be like,

do you need a towel? Yeah. Okay. Have I told you the guy where I went on a couple dates with them and then we went to the lake for one of our dates and I realized he shaved his legs and I was like, no. I can't. That was him. But he wasn't a deal breaker that you lived outside.

I don't think he realized that because when he picked me up for my date, I had to meet me at my sister's front door. So we probably thought that was my house. Oh, I was like, baller. She must own Gold's Gym. No. My sister wasn't rocking that way back then, but they were newly married with a baby. I mean, it was a super cute house, but like.

Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. More like the manager. But he never, you never brought anybody to. your quarters. Okay. That would be hilarious. hilarious. All right. So, yeah. That's fun. All right. So fun, fun thing. We used to both work at the gym. Good times. Fun thing you used to pee in a vase. Yeah. I'm surprised I never

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