The Bobby Bones Show - FEELING THINGS - When Rejection Is Redirection & More (Couch Talks)

Episode Date: September 13, 2026

We're diving into your voicemails and emails…starting with Samantha's story about how a job she "didn't get" ended up leading her to her best friend, her fiancé, and a promotion (proof t...hat maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserve more). We're also unpacking a body language expert's claim that carrying two bags to work makes you look "chaotic" and unprofessional, answering a listener's question about LENS neurofeedback therapy, and Kat's tackling a great question from Mary (a fellow therapist-in-training) about how to balance hosting a podcast with keeping client boundaries intact. Get some Feeling Things merch by clicking HERE! (FeelingThingsPodcast.com) Sign up for the Feeling Things newsletter HERE! Watch us on Youtube HERE! Find us on TikTok: @radioamy Call and leave a voicemail: 877-207-2077 Email: heythere@feelingthingspodcast.com HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Van Buren // threecordstherapy.com // @KatVanburenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 Happy Thursday. Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q&A episode to the Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy. And I'm Kat. And we're going to kick things off with a voicemail. out of the gate. We've got a voicemail, a DM, and then another voicemail. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:43 That's what you call a couch talk sandwich. A couch talk's voicemail sandwich. Yeah. So let's just out of the gate. This is from Samantha. Here you go. Hi, I mean Kat. I'm listening to your Tuesday episode.
Starting point is 00:04:01 When you guys are talking about the quote, maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserve more. It never reminded me of when I was fresh out of college and I didn't get this job that I really wanted and they actually end up calling me back and then offering me a job because
Starting point is 00:04:19 their offer fell through or something. But I already committed to a different job and I really wanted that other one but the job I did end up taking because I got an offer that is how I met my best friend who then introduced me to my student to be
Starting point is 00:04:35 husband. We're getting married at the end of September, and I'm still with that company. I'm now in senior leadership, and I just got a promotion, and I love my job and I love what I do. So when I heard that quote, maybe you didn't get what you wanted because you deserve more. I immediately always go back to that first job that I wanted. I just wanted to share that little story for others out there who maybe are stuck or feeling discouraged because they didn't get something that they want. it. You'll say the end or the light eventually. You just have to be patient. Thanks. It's the best story. I know. It's not a question, but it was encouragement based off something we said on a previous episode. And I love that she shared her experience because I just know
Starting point is 00:05:22 somebody else listening will appreciate hearing that so much. And based on this week's Feeling Things episode from Tuesday, Samantha, we are so happy for you. She's getting married. because we can't say congratulations. Oh, yeah. No, best wishes. Best wishes. I'm the one with that story and I was like, wait, why? Yeah, you're the one that gave us that advice.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Kat said that she saw a reminder from an etiquette person like that if a woman gets engaged, it's good to reframe it and say, we're so happy for you. I am so happy for you. This is so exciting. Versus, this is congratulations. What an accomplishment. Right. Kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Well, that story, I don't think I brought this up when we talked about that quote, but this whole situation reminds me of that, I think it's Mary Oliver that I've shared before. Somebody once handed me a box full of darkness. Somebody once handed me a box full of darkness, I now realize this too was a gift. And that's the same kind of idea that that was a gift that you didn't get that job because now you have a job you love, a best friend, and then you're about to have a husband. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:36 What? And a promotion. And a senior leadership and you're getting a promotion. What? I know. That's just a great story. Thank you, Samantha, for calling to share that. And that's what we want.
Starting point is 00:06:48 We want to hear from y'all in this way. If something ever triggers something in you and you're listening and you're like, oh, I should email. I should call. But then you're like, no, who cares? We care. I care. We love that story. Speaking of jobs and being at work, something just popped in my head that I saw.
Starting point is 00:07:05 the other day, like a quick social post where it said, if you roll into work with two bags, did you see this? Did you see this too? Okay. Well, let me finish it because people don't know unless they've seen it. But it says you're seen as chaotic. And I was like, okay, some days I have one bag. Other days I roll in with another bag because I have other things I need to take.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And I will say I feel a little bit clunkier those days. And so maybe, yeah, walking through the halls, who knows if other people are perceiving me that way. But this social media clip made it seem like, oh, yeah. If you're the two-bag lady, I assume it's because what guys are rolling in with two-bags. But if you're a two-bag person, you're chaotic. Yeah, it's definitely targeted towards women. I have feelings about this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Did you see what I saw? I saw. So the reason I saw this, is it the same person that it's the, it's the, it's, I never planned on talking about this. I just thought of this. It popped. You know how things pop into your head? I mean, she was talking about work and senior leadership.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm like, is she going to take two bags? Well, I saw it because Kate Kennedy did a whole episode on her podcast, I think, about this. Oh, okay. Because I think it's, I haven't listened to it yet. I just saw her post this clip. About the two bags? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And so I only watched the part of the clip. that was in her story. So I didn't, caveat, I have not watched the whole thing, but it did immediately irk me because this is my own feelings, but it was definitely targeted towards women, and it reminds me of like women being called bag ladies and all of that. And, you know, sometimes we have stuff to carry. I'm thinking I take two bags into my office.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I have my backpack and then I have my purse. So I have to combine, I have to switch my purse into my backpack every day, so people don't think I'm chaotic versus this is just what works best for me. Like in my head, I was like, come on. There's other things we could be helping each other, like, figure out in life other than putting somebody in a box based on how many bags they have. And assuming they're chaotic and they don't have their lives together. What if two bags actually means I do have my life together?
Starting point is 00:09:23 What if I have a lot of stuff to carry and I don't want to carry a huge bag that's going to hurt my back? What about that? Yeah, what about that? What about that? So I just feel like women have it hard enough. And maybe I feel that because I'm eight and a half months pregnant, nine months pregnant. Who knows how pregnant I am right now? I'm like, we have it hard enough.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Can we just let us carry stuff? Let us carry stuff. Let's carry bags with no label. Yeah. All right. We got a DM in our account is Feeling Things podcast. If you want to follow us on Instagram so you can send questions in that way. Hi, quick question.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I believe at one point, Amy had talked about lens therapy with neurofeedback of the brain. I recently did a session of brain mapping. I was curious if she ever did that and what her experience was. It's quite expensive and I think it takes a lot of sessions to see results. So I wanted to see if she thought it was worth it. I don't know of brain mapping overall. Like if she's asking if that's a completely different thing than the lens, I know when I go have gone,
Starting point is 00:10:30 on to two different neurofeedback people in Nashville, and I like both of them equally, but they are very different. So the lens is a low energy neurofeedback that is much faster than the other person that I go to. And that place is called Harmonized Brain Center. The founder of it even came on my podcast back when it was four things. I really like her. She works with a lot of people in town, and it's like a 15-minute process. But before we started the sessions, which they're ended up, I needed 12 of them, so you're right. It is an investment, and you do have to go multiple times. They do a map of my brain.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So I don't know if that's what she's referring to when she says brain mapping. I never did something called brain mapping for 12 sessions. I did neurofeedback. I just did two different versions of neurofeedback. I did the lens, and I liked that because it was faster. And I did the regular. But I also liked that. And I think they worked my, like different things were happening.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I saw a benefit in both. In fact, getting the DM is kind of making me want to go back just for a little touch-up sesh. What do you feel like you got out of it? Oh, it would help with my looping, my anxiety. I went at a time where I had a lot going on and it helped calm me. So I think right now I've just felt pretty good and just been surviving with my ADHD, but it absolutely will help with those. are they symptoms
Starting point is 00:11:57 like let me put it this way after a treatment I will come home and start organizing my fridge and I don't think about it I'm like oh my fridge needs to be cleaned out okay and I just do it like do you know my untreated brain
Starting point is 00:12:17 you know when I'm cooking something in the oven or I'm preheating the oven I have to immediately turn the oven light on or I'll forget that I was going to bake something. Interesting. Well, because I just, I'll start doing something else and I'll go to another room and then I'll be like, oh yeah, the oven lights on. I need to put the food in the oven.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You know what I struggle with? Remembering if I turn the oven off or not. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at bellair direct.com. with remembering if I turned the oven off or not. Almost every night we use the oven, when we go to bed, we get in bed, we're in, me and my husband, we're all cozy, warm, and then I turn over and I say, did we turn the oven off?
Starting point is 00:13:28 And I'm obviously not walking downstairs to check. So Patrick has to get up and go check, and it is probably his pet peeve of mine, but I can never remember. And then I also can't go to sleep if I think the oven. might be on or the stove that would be even worse because we have the one with the flame yeah so yeah I can relate to that in a little my oven's pretty loud so I that always wow again it's like that's my like the light helps me the noise helps me so I remember I don't think I would ever leave my oven on because I hear the there's something loud about it lucky yeah it's a gift it's a gift I mean it's a
Starting point is 00:14:07 newer I don't know why it's maybe that's a feature like we put some noise on it so you'll never leave it on. Maybe to be helpful. Now the other type of neurofeedback that would take more like hour to an hour and a half, I would be watching a Netflix show or something. She would put on Netflix and she had this software. She would run through it. But I would have to sit there and I'd have to watch a whole episode of West Wing or something.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Did you pick the show? You can pick what, whatever I want. The lens, you don't watch anything because you're just sitting there for 10, 15 minutes and the neuron little things. Do you talk? You just sit there. I can talk to her. Yeah, she'll be like, so how was your day?
Starting point is 00:14:42 I'll be like, oh, it's pretty good. I did this, I did that. But then the other one, no, I'm watching. I have to watch the screen. You have headphones on. So there's the noise and the noise is going in and out. It's getting louder and softer and louder and softer. And the screen is getting bigger and smaller and bigger.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And so it's sort of like you're on this little trip. But your brain, it's exercising or working out your brain and doing things to it, to where you just. So you would say it's worth it. For me, it was worth it. Like if I went right now, because I don't have a lot, I don't have the looping or I'm not feeling extra anxious about things and my brain feels relatively calm. I feel awake. Like a lot of my brain was asleep during those times because I was shutting down.
Starting point is 00:15:30 But then I, some, then other parts of my brain were in overdrive because I was freaking out. Like, I used to not be able to sleep because my brain was looping so much about some stuff. And it would just loop over and over and over. I remember that. of your life. And the looping stopped when I was doing neurofeedback. And I was doing talk therapy at the same time. And if you're able to do it, I get that this gets expensive and it adds up.
Starting point is 00:15:51 But the neurofeedback, it was a good compliment to my talk therapy. So, and it was just for a season. I don't think you have to do it forever. Then you can kind of get on a maintenance plan if you want. Or in my case now, I know that I could pop in for a session. and I'd have a, you know, a good fridge clean out the next day with no drama. Or maybe I wouldn't need to turn on the oven light to remember, oh, yeah, I'm going to bake something. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I hope that helps. But brain mapping, have you ever, I mean, that's just, they mapped my brain to see where I was. That's how they knew parts of my brain were in Delta, which when you are in high stress situations or survival modes, parts of your brain will go to sleep because it's like, Well, I will say I know nothing about neurofeedback. So you know because you've been more than I know. Yeah. And I am, yeah. But I'm no expert at all.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I'm just like I'm a patient. Yes. And I had good. I have good feedback about neurofeedback. But our brains, everybody's so different. Like someone may go and not really get anything out of it. I mean, that's like anything. Like some people do EMDR.
Starting point is 00:17:09 and don't really get anything out of it and some people do it and it changes their life. You know I did EMDR after my mom died and I did not like it. I remember you telling me that. Which I... You've never done it sense?
Starting point is 00:17:20 No. And I wonder if it was the administrator. I didn't really like her as much. The administrator? Well, the therapist. Well, I didn't really know. I went to someone that did EMDR. It wasn't like a therapist
Starting point is 00:17:31 I had been working with previously. I went because they offer that. Okay. But it was a therapist you went to. Yes. I don't know why I was calling it. administrator, the person that did the treatment on me. What did I do with Linda in Virginia? You had brain spotting. That's it. That's what you liked. Yeah. I think. But that brain spotting was
Starting point is 00:17:52 different. Well, this is what I think about, because I had an experience where I did EMDR with a therapist that I actually really liked, but I didn't really like EMDR and didn't really get anything out of it. EMDR has more of a definitive protocol and there's less like it's more rigid than brain spotting and somebody with a brain like ours and somebody with a brain like ours is going to probably probably this is my own opinion be more receptive to brain spotting because it's more fluid and there's more flexibility in it and it's very much client led versus EMDR is there's so much structure. So that doesn't surprise me about you.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I had a very similar experience. And with brain spotting, there are so many. I've only gone to two brain spotting trainings, but there are so many different ways to use it. Yeah, like I'll share what I did. I drew my parents on butcher paper, like big butcher paper from like the art room when you were a kid. And I didn't have to draw them well or anything.
Starting point is 00:19:03 They were like stick figures. You just needed to have a picture. Like I had the, yeah, and put a little curly hair on my mom and a little belt on my dad. And we put them on the wall. And then I just started writing things on the butcher. And then we would look at them. Right. And I mean, she had a whole process. But I had to, and then I had to talk to the butcher paper on the wall.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah. And then I don't know if this was part of the brain spotting process, but remember how she had a beanie baby that I picked out? I still have it in my room. and I picked out a little beanie baby that I would talk to on that trip too. Was it like an inner child? What does it represent? I don't remember. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It might not have been part of the brain spotting. It was just part of your work. That was a very intense three days. Yeah. Because I was working nine hours a day for three days straight in a hotel room. Would you eat meals with her? Yep. How did you trans, like, what's the word, transition from like,
Starting point is 00:20:02 doing this intense trauma work to like do you want to get Chinese or Mexican for lunch? Yeah, well, I remember one day she was like, well, mellow mushrooms right down the street. I'm like, that sounds great. And then what would you talk about during lunch? I mean, sometimes we didn't even really have to talk when that that was cool. And I learned a little bit about what she did. Like she lived on a bunch of land. Her husband was a doctor.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. They had chickens and eggs. Oh. So we just talk about life a little bit. We didn't do, we wouldn't continue any therapy talk. Yeah. Well, that makes me think about the voicemail question that we got because it's about therapy. It's kind of about, about therapist boundaries.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And that's a unique situation where you're kind of seeing your therapist in two settings. We're there, you're my therapist and then we're just eating lunch together. I'm asking questions about your life. Right. With her, it was so unique, though, because think about it, if people aren't familiar with my Linda story, I was in complete desperation mode. like my Nashville therapist and another person I was working with here, they got together and said,
Starting point is 00:21:09 Amy needs to go away. And if you knew all the things that were happening at once, you would probably agree to. Some of the stuff is public. One of the things, like my dad died, that's public. There were two other things that are not public.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And it was all happening at once and it was just a lot. And I took two weeks off of work. And so during that two weeks, I went to the three-day intensive, but this woman Linda picked me up. And it's so strange to think about her now because she picked me up at the airport. I didn't know her.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But she picked me up. I spent three days with her. And then she dropped me off at the airport. And I've never seen her since. Never talked to her? No. Never emailed her? No.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Have you wanted to? Was she even real? Did this even happen? It made all of it up. Isn't it crazy? And she knows more about my life, probably than anybody because of how much we covered in those nine days. And you lay it all on the table.
Starting point is 00:22:06 You're like, what do I have to lose? Like, please help me. I'll tell you anything and everything. Which, yes, the bottom half of our sandwich, this is from Mary. She lives in Massachusetts, and she's asking how to balance sessions when your clients listen to your podcast. There's no shortcut for saving time. But saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and
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Starting point is 00:26:50 or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to pro society on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. This is from Mary. She lives in Massachusetts, and she's asking how to balance sessions when your clients listen to your podcast. So this is very in the weeds therapy related, but that's what we're doing. We're here to answer questions and Kat's a therapist and we have a podcast. So here's what Mary sent in. Hi, Amy and Kat.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Kat, this question is for you. I am listening to the podcast right now where you guys are just talking about your journey to become a therapist. And I am also a therapist and I actually went back to grad school at 38 years old. and I'm now almost done with my hours and I'm taking my exam soon. But anyway, my question is I'm also thinking about hosting my own podcast eventually, a lot smaller scale than what you guys have, just because I have a lot of things that I want to say and get off my chest,
Starting point is 00:27:58 and I thought a podcast would be a good idea to do it. But one of the things that I was concerned about is balancing when your clients listen to your podcast. Can you just kind of speak to how you handle that? And if it's something that comes up in your, like, informed consent part of the session? Or is it something that comes up only if the client brings it up? Just curious and hoping to get some feedback from you. Thank you both. I love the podcast, a longtime listener.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I hope you guys have the day that you need to have. Oh, I'm Mary from East Bridgewater, Massachusetts, 42 years old, therapist in training. Bye, guys. I love the ending. She understood the assignment. We know someone's like they're wanting to give it. It's everything we've ever asked for. We're like, we'd love to know your name, your age, where you're listening from, what you do.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That's funny. This is a really good question, I think, because this is something that I've dealt with and had changed my perspective on over the past five or six years. when I started Union Therapy, my old podcast that was just strictly a mental health podcast, I wanted my clients to I started as a resource for people and so it was something that I would
Starting point is 00:29:24 sometimes send clients certain episodes based on what they are going through what they needed so I would never say anything on that podcast that I would not want a client to hear that I wouldn't say probably in a session with the client. And this also is in tandem with social media because I was trying to grow social media
Starting point is 00:29:46 while I was doing this podcast too. And sometimes that felt very hard because do your clients follow you? Do they not? Can they follow you if it's a, if it's your personal account versus this account and what if you're not private? There's so many things. What I have come to is your clients are probably going to look you up, some of them at least, most of them probably.
Starting point is 00:30:08 and so I cannot stop somebody from doing something like that. Like I can't, I mean, I can say, please don't do that, but they probably will do that. I'm more realistic about it. So how I approach it as I don't ever put anything on social media that I would not want a client to have the ability to see, which other people might have a very different perspective than this and might have way more strict boundaries, but I'm also a therapist who probably self-discloses with clients, depending on who they are, more than somebody else. And so I know that I just use social media in a way that I know that like any,
Starting point is 00:30:52 but any client could see this and how would I feel about that? And then in my paperwork, there is a clause that's like, I can't follow you on social media. I'm not going to probably message you on social media. going to reach out to on social media that they all know about but now our podcast is different and we've talked about this I feel like especially in the beginning of starting this and I've kind of loosened my boundaries a little bit you're loosey goosey over there yeah um in my perspective is this is for this is less I'm not probably going to send a client one of these episodes yeah probably not
Starting point is 00:31:33 I mean, yes, we're mental health minded and we do teach things. But this is more, there's a lot of entertainment factor in here. And so I've just looked at them as separate. And if, again, I would never, because there has been things that I've said on here. And later I've been like Houston, our producer, I'm like, I need you to take that part out because I don't want that on there. Sometimes I feel a little too comfortable. So I still operate under the assumption. If a client listens to this, which some of them will, I just.
Starting point is 00:32:03 want to feel okay with what they're going to hear. Right. And that's how I would approach. It sounds, I don't know if her podcast is going to be mental health minded or just like for fun, but I would just keep in mind, which I think is a good rule of thumb in general. Like don't say anything on the internet or post anything on the internet. You wouldn't want somebody to see. I just take it a step further that not only my friends, but I wouldn't want a client to see.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Don't do it. Because let me tell you, there are some stories I would tell. I bet. There are some things I would say, and there's some stories I would tell. You know, it is so tragic that we haven't told everybody about. You know how we were going to do a segment on your crappy date drawing? Oh, my gosh, yeah. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple.
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Starting point is 00:33:24 Growing up a lot of the times, because she was so quiet. I would speak for, like, the both of us. Now I'm working on, like, thinking a moment, reeling it in, and thinking before I speak. And Joey King. You know if your, like, mom is yelling at your sibling, and even if you're in a moment, really in a moment. with your sibling, you just won't let that slide. It's like only you can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is, you want to talk about her like that. Only I talk about her like that.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Plus, we've been taking your calls, listening to your voicemails and giving advice. Or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do, now's the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was something. someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Geratana. Jeremy Colhain, Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the artist.
Starting point is 00:35:10 on artists on artists on artists podcast. The improvised character comedy podcast where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of wellness influencers. What I try to do is faux journal. I don't know. Have you guys heard of faux journaling?
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Starting point is 00:36:24 If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society. The weekly podcast, that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island, deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture,
Starting point is 00:37:09 conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. You know what is so tragic that we haven't told everybody about? You know how we were going to do a segment on your crappy date jar? Oh my gosh. Guys, we've even teased it.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Like coming up one day, we're going to go through Kat's crappy date jar, which it was called with the S word. Yeah. Her poopy date jar. And tell them. Tell them. It doesn't exist anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So when I moved... I'm so depressed about this. I am too. When I moved, my friend that I started it with took it. And she was like, oh, I'll take it. I want it. Because it was her jar to begin with. And then she just moved because she just got married.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And I texted her today because I was like, we need to do that. I said, hey, do you still have it? and she said, I do not, exclamation point. I said, exclamation point. Sad face. What? So I'm sorry, guys. You'll never get to hear those stories.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And it was full to the tip top. And they weren't all my stories either. So that's another, like to this. Like, there are some date stories I wouldn't tell from my own life. But a lot of them were either my roommate or then just friends started coming over and putting stories in the jar. Mm-hmm. And they're gone now. Dang.
Starting point is 00:38:41 That jar probably had some good stuff in it. See, that's one of those things, though, like that, because I was going to get rid of it and then she took it. That's one of those things and it makes me not ever want to get rid of things. Because in my head, I was like, why will I ever need this? Just because it's such good stories. And now I'm like, I need it. I want it. Because we forget some of those crazy things that happened us.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Like, oh my gosh. You know, I forgot that guy I went out with that, you know, told me he would never date a girl if she shopped at Target. I will never forget that story, though. Yeah. That guy was funny. Funny? I mean, there are some people that are pretty passionate about, yeah, where you shop and what you do. But it was just like, whoa, okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Then. Yeah, he called me names. Wait, I don't remember. He called me a basic white. Oh, basic white B? Yeah. And I said, why? And he said, you shop at Target.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I would never shop at Target. And I was like, okay, well, where do you get your Q-tip? literally is what I said and he was like at the local drugstore and I was like okay I don't have one of those around me at a CVS I'm assuming you feel similarly about CVS yeah that's basic white girl maybe too well it's a chain so I'm like I don't have a mom and pop drugstore next to me also I mean you're diverse because you like to shop local too you do both like I feel like I feel like if you're on that day with me you'd be like she shops local or two. Sometimes she goes to the farmer's market. She has both. I've seen her. She shops on TikTok shop and at the local stores. Yeah. I've been telling people about that $13 dress you got on TikTok shop. Yes. Because it's so cute. Thanks. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you all for sending in your voicemails, your DM. We love hearing from you. You can send us an email. Whether it's, again, you're sharing something from an episode you heard. And you're like, oh, I can be an encouragement.
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Starting point is 00:40:59 we also want to hear it, whether it's specifically related to you in your career and your profession like today's last voicemail was or it's general. Our hope is that if it helps you, great, that's what we're here for, and then hopefully it'll help somebody else while we're at it. But maybe that one was simply just for her. And that is a, okay, because we also helped you out with how many bags you take to work.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah. Don't be chaotic. Take as many as you want. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, take as many as you want. And most importantly, have the day you need to have. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:41:34 30 years ago, an island off Manhattan almost brought down New York City. Who will you trust your friends and neighbors? Or will you trust the people five miles overseas? This is a story about neighbors turning on each other, and what happens when a forgotten place decides it's had enough. But we're not stopping, are we? Listen to revisionist history, the Staten Island problem, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I had just seen Ice Tea guest at the Apollo at the Snoop Dog concert. And I told him that. And he sort of looked me up and down and went, huh. Hi, I'm Lisa Trager. And I'm Kara Klink. And together we host That's Messed Up, a podcast where we recap Law & Order SVU, dig into the actual crimes and interview actors from the episode.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Like former SVU guest star Bradley Whitford. Often I would meet people who would assume that there was something sort of Ted Bundy about me because of these sort of characters that I play. And we're celebrating our 300th episode in style with the one, the only, John Stamos. There's nobody better to play this character. I'm like, what is this? He's a reproductive abuser and he tries to impregnate as many women.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm like, really? I'm the guy like that? Okay, fine. Get the story behind the rip from the headline story on That's Mess Up. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Listen to That's Messed Up on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. D-D-D-Dun! On Big Lives, we take a single cultural icon.
Starting point is 00:43:14 People like Jane Fonda, George Michael, Little Richard. And we pull apart the story behind the image. Discovering forgotten interviews that change exactly how we see these giants of our culture. We're here for the messy, the brilliant, the human version of our heroes. I'm Emmanuel Jochi. I'm Kai Rite. And this is Big Lives. Listen to Big Lives on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:43:39 In February of 2024, celebrated illustrator and children's book author Patra Mathers and her husband Michael mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they had died by suicide. Dear honies, this is goodbye. By the time you get this letter, both Petra and I will be dead. Next stop, Wonderland. Why did they do it? And what did it do to the people they left behind? Listen to death of an artist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is there an epidemic against literature?
Starting point is 00:44:14 More specifically, black literature. I'm Jack Quist-Peace Thomas, and on this season of the Black Litts podcast, we're outside asking why. They don't want a whole bunch of little Ella Bakers, Michael Waxes and Martin Luther King running around. And when you look at a lot of different cultures, they're like, we need to know where you came from.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And considering this is Black Reading Month, the only real question is, what are you reading next? Listen to Black Lit from the Black Effect Podcast Network on our Eyeheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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