The Bobby Bones Show - (Fri Full Show) Lukas Nelson Is In Studio Talking About His New Album, The Best Advice His Dad, Willie Nelson, Gave Him & More! + Amy's Criteria For A Future Partner + Lunchbox's JFK Report

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

Lukas Nelson is on the show talking about his new album, Sticks and Stones, that is out today! He shares his songwriting process, how music saved his life, the best advice his dad, Willie Nelson, ha...s given him, and more! Plus, find out what Amy's criteria is for a future partner and what she's looking for in a man! Then, hear Lunchbox's history report on JFK and the grade he received on it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:42 On our latest episode, we got comedian Blake Anderson from Workaholics and The Hilarious This Is Important Podcast. Let's go. We did beat them in improv. You had an improv against the team? Yes, we would pull up their schools would be there with signs for us.
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Starting point is 00:01:53 We learn that smoking chickens is definitely his expertise, but you better buy one. And when you do, though, watch out for all the added fees. I like that. He will do that. Here he is. Producer Reddy. What's your new story of the day? So Lunchbox always talks about, you know, business man, getting business deals done and all that.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Dude, this is crazy. So in Sun Valley, Idaho, every year, there's a billionaire summer camp. It's like a summit where billionaires from all over the world flying to this little town, and they do a summer camp all week. It's been this week. The regional airport said there were over 100 private jets that landed this week, and they all meet there. I'm talking like, you know, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg.
Starting point is 00:02:30 You think they do all dirty stuff, or are they talking business? They say that they do. sacrificing, you know, it's probably maybe a little bit of both. They do activities. What kind of activity? Elephant walk. They don't say what those activities are. But they say like billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Are you the only one that knew what the elephant walk is? I know what it is. How do you know what it is? Because fraternities would talk about it. I don't know that it would ever really happen. But, I mean, honestly, I think the first person that told me about it was my dad. What? What in the world?
Starting point is 00:02:56 He did it. Look at all these billionaires. Just showing up. Do you know those people? Some of them. Like there is the Sam Altman I know from the AI. I've seen him talk about AI. I see, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:10 know the Warner Brothers Discovery guy. But they're all getting off their planes. It's unbelievable. And so they say that billion dollar deals go down at this summer. I would imagine. What? That's crazy. I would imagine. That's pretty good. All right, next up, he drove Richard Marks to and from our studio.
Starting point is 00:03:26 The thing we don't know why is why he was so awkward and he couldn't even look Richard Marks in the eye. Here he is. Lunchbox. You guys know Dr. Catherine Growl? She's also known as Dr. Roxy on TikTok. She's a plastic surgeon that likes to stream her little surgeries and does dances.
Starting point is 00:03:42 She straightens to surgeries? Yeah. Even with malpractice stuff? And so then she got busted. Her license was suspended and she thought she was getting all these TikTok followers. Look at me. I'm doing surgeries. And now they have permanently taken her license away.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Why? Because she films. Oh, because that's why. Yeah. I thought, wow, I can't believe they, they don't like cameras anywhere. They do anything for the most part, medical because of all the malpractice things that could happen. Like they see her like leaving surgeries coming back, doing dances, looking at the camera.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Well, that's on her then. If she's doing a TikTok dance while she's done doing. Like she thinks, oh, TikTok is cool. Look at me. I'm getting all these followers. And she did all that. And she loses her license that she were. I mean.
Starting point is 00:04:23 So there's a patient passing out on the table and she's doing a dance in front of him. TikTok famous. Placist surgeon has medical license suspended. I'm reading it here for the New York Post. And she went to court to fight for it. And they said, no, it is permanently gone. You can't get it back. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, it's not ridiculous. No, she did that. Oh, I was like. Why did it just wondering what she. was doing. She was gaining TikTok followers. But again, that's not going to make you lose your license, gaining TikTok followers. And I don't even think it's against the rules to
Starting point is 00:04:48 film, but most doctors don't allow cameras because if they mess up, their insurance is so high for malpractice reasons. But I wonder what happened in these videos specifically. Maybe even a patient didn't agree to it. Right. I was thinking a waiver to say, okay, yeah, you have my permission.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Like some people, like one girl suffered a, she was including, she, a Preparated. Failure to meet standards of care is what it was. Oh, because she's busy doing something else that she's not. She's not focused on the patient. But the TikTok part's legal?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Like you can do a stream? Again, I'm not going to answer that as a lawyer. But yeah, you can watch surgeries. Sometimes doctors will do surgeries on, you've seen those before flipping through. So on Gray's Anatomy, they're a teaching hospital. Life altering mistakes. Yeah. Board members said she focused her attention on,
Starting point is 00:05:39 on the TikTok and talk in like the followers as it was happening, and it led to life-altering mistakes. I mean, that's what it is. What do you say? Well, Gray's Anatomy bases a lot of things on real life, and they're a teaching hospital, and when Twitter first got popular during that season, I remember they were live-streaming things on Twitter
Starting point is 00:05:59 to show other doctors or medical students what they were doing and how, it was a way to teach, but, you know, online, instead of them being present. So I don't know how they got the patient's permission, though. One patient whose cosmetic procedure broadcast to over 800,000 followers in an emergency care week after the surgery when she reportedly perforated her intestine. Yeah, and they warned her back in September 2021. It was wrong to live stream her operations.
Starting point is 00:06:28 She continued to do so. Oh, she got warned. Wrong, but not illegal. Yeah. Frowned on. But they got her because she kept messing up. All right. That's a case the story.
Starting point is 00:06:38 allegedly. I'd like to say allegedly, even if I'd have no idea what. Allegedly all that happened. All right, Amy, let's do your intro here. Sorry about that. All right, Amy, she's so desperate to sleep that she hypnotized herself with videos online, and she's even admitted to drink an entire bottle of wine. Here she is, Amy. Like, in one sitting? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I don't write it. Just go with her. Okay, okay, okay. So I love following BuzzFeed, and a lot of times it's funny things, but then every once in a while it's something serious. And this 37-year-old woman was sharing her story. of how she realized she had breast cancer and it wasn't a lump. And so I thought, oh, this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I want to talk about this because she said, you know, she's aging and she saw a change in, you know, the left one versus the right one and started to sag a little bit. And she went to see a doctor and he was like, oh, yeah, this is normal. You know, so she was like, oh, dang, she was kind of embarrassed for going and freaking out
Starting point is 00:07:28 thinking what's wrong with me. And she decided, huh, I'm going to get a second opinion. So she went and she did that, that doctor immediately ordered a mammogram. And sure enough, that was a simple. of her breast cancer. She did have it, but it was like a saggy. It was just starting to sag.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And again, she thought it was just something that was happening with age. So two things here. If your body's changing, pay attention to it. And then also, if you get two or three opinions, if you feel like something's wrong. Which we were talking on the show yesterday about lunchbox and his vomiting. He vomits and passes out. And he's like, I went to the doctor. He says, I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Or like, he should try a different doctor. Because when you vomit, you pass out. Yeah. Or sometimes before I even vomit, I pass out. Like, as I'm getting to the bathroom. When he talks about vomiting, passes out. Passes out.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So I think that's a, there's a second opinion probably. Yeah. Like, who would you talk to? Is there a vomit doctor? Yeah, type in vomit doctor. Hit images. Who happens? A vomitologist?
Starting point is 00:08:26 It's probably some kink. Like, I mean, seriously, I have no idea who I'd even talk to. I think it's probably a question for, like, heart, brain type thing. You'll be okay. Oh, maybe an ear, nose and throat? Yeah, maybe butt, foot. Who knows? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Foot in hand, mouth and butt. Who knows one of those doctors? All right, go ahead. From Mountain Pine, Arkansas. He's pretty tall, and he likes most sports that involve a ball. Bobby Bones. Thank you. They put out all the Emmy nominations.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I wanted to roll with it through you guys, see if you've seen any of these shows or all the shows. Best Drama series? Just yes or no. The Last of Us. No. Yes. So good. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's the one on Max. The zombies. You like that. That's awesome. Succession. starting season four now yes yeah it's awesome yellow jackets
Starting point is 00:09:10 yes but it's kind of lost its way a little bit I want to see that Eddie seen nothing Eddie do you have a TV thrall I do but I don't watch that yellow jackets amazing idea
Starting point is 00:09:20 it's starting to get a little too nutty do you agree I'm not into the next I need to watch the latest is it like they kind of just lose track of like how they started and they just like what do we do now they took a big jump
Starting point is 00:09:32 and it's either going to get really awesome or really weird I think it went a little weird okay White Lotus. Yes. Come on. Yes. Never seen it.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And or. Never heard of it. I don't know what that is. Better Call Saul. Yeah. I think it's over. Is that why it's in this mic? Probably.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah. I watched Breaking Bad a little bit of better call Saul back in the day. Early. Early. Early. So good. House of Dragon. What is that?
Starting point is 00:09:55 A plus. What is that? Crown of Thorns? Yeah, Crown of Thorns. Crown of Thorns. Your favorite show, Crown of Thorns. Game of Thorns. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You do a couple of comedy ones here. Abbott Elementary. Yes. Yeah, it's fine. I don't get it. It's fine. It's like the office. It's teacher here.
Starting point is 00:10:13 No, no, no. Hold on on. It is not like the office. It's not like it. Like they do the little interviews. Okay. It's just fine. Like everybody raves about it and I watch it and I'm like, I'm waiting for this to get laugh out loud funny.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And it's just, uh. Everybody loves Chris kid, is in it, but he's an adult. Yeah. I hates Chris, I guess. Yeah. But it's just like, uh. Barry? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:31 No. Watch season one liked it. Just never went back for another. season. The bear? Yes. Come on. I told you guys about that one. No, you did not. I told, it didn't matter. Bobby was, I think you were the first. Like early. Months. He just
Starting point is 00:10:43 didn't. Yeah. Jerry duty. Yeah. Awesome. That's going to win everything. Awesome. One of the best endings I've ever seen of a show, period. That's still so crazy. They were able to pull that off. Marvel Smith, Maisel? No. Only murders in the building? Yeah. Yeah. Ted Lassow? Yeah. Wednesday?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Uh-uh. What was that? Adam's Family Girl? Oh, no. I don't know. Well, those are the shows. You know, something else that's not Emmy nominated, but just so everybody knows, that show quarterback is on Netflix. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I've heard about it. Have you ever seen watching it? No. But I will probably this weekend. I've seen clips online. It looks awesome. They followed four quarterbacks, I think, all season long, had miced up during games,
Starting point is 00:11:20 NFL allowed it, all season. Home, Patrick Mahomes, Kurt Cousins. Josh Allen on there? No. Those are only two, I know. No, Marcus Mariotta. So, like, what's an example of something that's fun to hear, See, miced up.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Trash talk. All of it. Okay, because you already have watched the football game. So, like, what are you getting for this? No, he's said off the field. It's off the field stuff. It's like on the sideline. It's during the, in the huddle.
Starting point is 00:11:44 At one point, I don't want to spoil up, but Patrick Mom's like, you ever heard Amy in the Bob Bone show? Whoa! Amy! He's like, I fact checked her. NPR was right. Patrick. So it's stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Okay. Time for the mailbag. You send an email and we read it on the air. It's something we call Bobby's Mailbag. Hello, Bobby Bones. I want to say I love your show. My issue is lunchbox. I am sure many like him or can tolerate him, but I cannot. He is very jealous. He is an adult bully to the listeners and the staff. I'm very turned off when he comes on the air. It actually makes the show not as enjoyable. Can I ask why he's allowed to speak to others the way he does? Is it for ratings? I'm sure after reading this email, he'll be rude like he is on the air. It's obvious he doesn't like confrontation because he becomes rude. rude. You would be like better if you could and were willing to accept constructive criticism lunchbox.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And Bobby, there are times that you correct him, but then he's rudeer and you allow it. I blame you, Bobby. Oh. Shut his mic off. Thanks. Daily listener Amanda. I'll talk to what you like to say. Check, check.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Is this on? Good. All right. Just making sure it's not off. And I don't know what she means, by the way. I talk to people. Just because I'm loud. People think I talk in a bad tone.
Starting point is 00:13:03 That's aggressive sometimes. And you do throw names out, like call people names. It's just loud and people don't like that. And they don't like hearing the truth. They don't like having the, I don't want to treat everybody with a little, what do you call it? What you get to do with Amy? Kid gloves. No, not Amy.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I was just saying, he would have to. He would do his hands up. But you said sometimes you have to treat Amy with kid gloves. And actually, I don't think it's kid gloves. He has to treat me with like, you know, sensitive gloves. But not really. When she was having a tough time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Right. It just read the room. Yeah. But what I'm saying is. Samy-Sizzen. They get so upset because you're honest with them and you tell them what they want, they don't want to hear that. They don't want to hear the truth.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Like when someone's bad at something, when someone is, you know, they call in with a stupid comment and you tell them, that was a stupid comment. Oh, that's not rude. It's just honesty. So I would say some people could definitely hear that as rude. And just because you say it's the truth or you tell it like it is, that just means you're giving your opinion forcefully. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:55 But I think that's why you get to talk because you do say how you feel. Yeah. It's mostly not like us. Sometimes it's funny. but it is rude sometimes and I do try to step in. Maybe I'll try to step in a little more when he's rude. Like when he attacks Abby for no reason. Like out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Why do you bring Abby into this? What does Abby have to do? Because that's what you do. Okay, fine. If you want to bring Abby into this, I tell her how it is. When she sounds terrible, I say you sound terrible. But she doesn't sound as terrible as you say. She sounds pretty good sometimes.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I've said it. I've said that there's people that she's better than. Like who, for example? That Arkansas chick. Pagent girl. Yeah, pageant girl, whatever. How would you like to respond to her formally? And Amanda, I mean, without me, you would have nothing to complain about.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And how, what do we like to do in life? Complain. So you should, I'm actually, I'm actually providing you with an outlet because everywhere you go, people complain about everything. If I wasn't here to complain about it, be complained about, you're lost. I'm trying to help her out. Well, Amanda, thank you. Noted, I will do a better job of it. But my mic will not be turned off, Amanda.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So you know what? Turn off your radio. There you go. How about that? Sol's the problem. Well, we kind of want her to listen. I felt that was rude, though. I like, should I step in?
Starting point is 00:15:05 I felt like that was a rude thing for me. But how was that rude? We like Amanda. Thank you for your email. We'll work on it. She did blame you too. So you should be mad at Amanda too. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Turn off your radio. If you want to email unless you can, Morgan, what's that address? Mailbag at bobbybones.com. All right. Thank you guys. We got your email and we read it on the air. Now it's about to close Bobby's mail bag. Charlie Sterron had no front teeth until she was
Starting point is 00:15:31 eight years old. She was pretty sick as an infant and the antibiotics rotted all her teeth. Whoa. Now, that's not that fun. Admit it. Not fun at all. Interesting, but not fun. But she's good now. She's beautiful. Boom. Fun fact, Friday. Around the room,
Starting point is 00:15:47 Eddie. Before the 1920s, you could mail your child for just 15 cents. Anywhere in the world. Huh? It was a loophole. The mail was started and they didn't really define all the rules. So for 15 cents, you can be like, all right, take my child in New York. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Oh, so you didn't put them in like a box and seal it. No. It's like Uber. The postman would take them. Okay, all right. I will deliver them to New York. Like on a train. How awesome is that? Did anybody? No, no, no, no, no. No, no. No. No. But they said that it was a lot cheaper than a train ticket, so a lot of people did
Starting point is 00:16:17 that. So they did do it. Yeah, they would mail kids across the country. That's crazy. I mean, mostly across town. I think because the mail is faster. That way they can get there in a couple hours. That's local. Morgan. The first public high five was between Dusty Baker and Glenn Burke of the Los Angeles Dodgers on October 2nd, 1977.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Dusty Baker, Major League Baseball player, but also manager in One World Series. Yeah, he's been around for a long time. He wears the gloves. I think he's the oldest manager's coach to ever win a championship, period. And he was the first person to ever do a high five. That's great. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool. What year?
Starting point is 00:16:52 19707. That's right revolutionary then. It was the first public one that got captured. So there could have been more before that, but this was the first public. captured on film, photo, whatever it would have been. Amy. In the Netherlands, employees can be absent for up to two years while receiving 70% of their salary as sick pay.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Wow. A lot of trust happened in there. How long would we be able to? Well, lunchbox would just be good. I mean, he's sick all the time anyway and he shows up. Yeah. He'd just be sick. I'm a team player, man. You are.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Got to play hurt. Oh, well, just something popped to my head, too, because the lunchbox. I saw that in the U.S. here, I think we spend like over $200 billion in hangovers or we cost our employees that much. He doesn't get hung over though ever in his whole life. Not one time. Did you know that? He just has like tuberculosis and all the other diseases. He's never got hangovers.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Wow. Ever, right? I mean, I see people that can't move the next day and I don't understand that. I've never experienced that kind of life. I feel like you need to get tested for something like submit your body to science. I didn't. I found out I had tuberculosis. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Let's watch. Give us your poop or pee fact, I'm guessing. Five star resorts. in the Middle East and Asia serve this coffee. It's called Black Ivory Coffee. Did you know it comes from elephant poop? That's right. Elephants eat coffee beans sometimes and they go through their digestive system and they are so rich and they take away the bitter taste that they can get $500 a pound for those beans. So people will go sort through the elephant poop and sell them.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Wow. Oh, I don't like that. That's crazy, right? My fun, though. No, that's fun. That is amazing. It's fun. I'm having fun. It makes it, like when it goes through the elephant, it makes it kind of taste fruity.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Okay. Interesting. Minor music, a little category here. Someone like you by Adele came out in 2011, and it became the first strictly voice piano to ever be number one. Only voice piano. Only song to do that. I guess she sings so good, so hard, so pure,
Starting point is 00:19:00 that I forget that it's just one instrument with her. Wow. Because our voice dominates. Creed has sold more albums in the United States than Jimmy Hendricks. You double-check that. Hello, Crean. Finally, Led Zeppelin, R.A.M. and Depeche Mode have never had a number one song. Led Zeppelin, R.m., Depeche Mode.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Never a number one song. Rianna's had 14. That's a funny fact. With Depeche Mode is that. Reach out and touch things. Is that then? Reach out. Reach out and touch faith. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I thought it was reach out and touch them. That's the Peschman. It is? Yeah. Reach out and touch faith. Oh, down to down. Yeah, that's not really my vibe jam knowledge. I would think that would have been another one.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I just moved the black eye. It's a little before me and I never listened to them so I know a lot about them. Yeah. Personal Jesus is that song. That's it. Reach out, touch faith. Well, now I know it's safe. What do you think it was?
Starting point is 00:20:00 Reach out and touch them. I thought it was me for a long time until I realized. just personal Jesus, name of the song. Fun fact, Friday. It's time for the good news. With Amy. Tell me something good. Back in 2006, Ashley Payne graduated from high school,
Starting point is 00:20:20 top of her class, started college, and then she was diagnosed with a pulmonary embolism. So she dropped out to prioritize her health. Now, fast forward 17 years later, and she's a mother of seven, she is finally graduating from college, something she's always wanted to do. With seven kids, do we back to school?
Starting point is 00:20:40 Valedictorian. That's great. Yes. And she said she credits her family for helping her make it through all of that. Specifically, a note she found from her daughter that gave her motivation. It said this, aim for the moon. And if you miss, you may hit a star. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I'm Casey K. Keep reaching, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. Yeah. That's a great story. I mean, sometimes Eddie came in exercise because he's got four kids. And she went to college with seven. I know, right? He's like, oh, man, I got four kids.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I can't really do any set up today. What does that have to do with anything? Oh, you know how it is, man. I got kids. I don't understand how you have seven kids. Yeah. Well, it's here's what happens. There's a bird and there's a bee.
Starting point is 00:21:16 No, no, no. I don't know. I get that. But what I'm saying is you probably can't even spend time with them every day. That's not. No, it's true. Hey, if you're going to college, you can't. You can not spend time with all seven.
Starting point is 00:21:26 But if they're in school. Listen, I don't know. Right, right. But they're all spaced, I know. They are space, but still, that's a lot of kids. It is. Hey, shout out to her for having all the kids and for going back to college. That's a motivator.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Now that I think about it, she probably didn't have a lot of time. That's what it's all about. That was tell me something good. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions,
Starting point is 00:21:52 my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
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Starting point is 00:23:46 On a recent episode of the podcast Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the Budgenista Aliche to talk. talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself,
Starting point is 00:24:23 and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Easy trivia. Amy, ready? Ready.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Answers that start with A, that's the category. What company makes the iPhone? Apple. Good. Lunchbox. What company has free shipping on millions of items if you're a prime member? Amazon. Correct. Morgan, what actor played The Terminator and is the former governor of California?
Starting point is 00:25:05 Arnold Schwarzenegger. Correct. Abby, what state was I born in? Arkansas. Correct. Good job, everybody. You're still in. If you wonder why you didn't hear Eddie, he's been banned from this round.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Just going to sit back and enjoy the game. Right. And from now, I'll turn your mic off, please. Oh, yeah. He's off. He's off. Amy's got the T.R. on because Amy's the champion. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Nobody's clapping about me, really, and a little bit of Morgan. Thanks, guys. Why are you the villain? I don't know. I feel like anybody with the tiara is the villain. Okay, the category is 90s movies. Now, if you miss it, you're going to hear this sound. You've been boned.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Don't get boned. Amy, what Pixar movie debuted Woody and Buzz in 1995? Toy Story. Good. 90s movies Lunchbox. What screwball comedy is about two idiotic friends named Harry and Lloyd? Dumb and Dumber. Correct.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. Morgan, what Disney movies about a lion prince named Simba and his father? The Lion King. Correct. Abby, which Tom Hanks movie is about the history of the United States from the 50s to the 70s from the perspective of an Alabama man with an IQ of 75? Forest Gump. Correct. Good job.
Starting point is 00:26:13 We're all in going to round three. Toys is the category, Amy. The Tickle Me version of what Sesame Street character was the It Toy in 1996? Sickle me Elmo. Correct. Lunchbox, what plastic building block toy was invented in Denmark? What? What plastic building block toy was invented in Denmark?
Starting point is 00:26:38 Building block toy? Building block toy. Mr. Potato Head. Oh, wow. Everybody, what's the answer? Legos. Legos, yes, that's correct. What?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Legos. Oh, I'm lovely. Sorry. Everybody thought he was kidding. Every single one of you guys going to be like, is he kidding? Did you say Building Block vegetable or? I did not. I didn't know their name was, I thought you, building blocks.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I didn't know their Legos I thought was a toy, like a type of toy. That's the category, twice. No, no. What I am saying is I did not understand that they were a specific toy. I don't know what you call those. I just call them Building Blocks. I didn't know they were. You call Legos Building Blocks.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's the big, that's not true. Do they have like generic Legos? Yes, they have generic Legos. 100%. You didn't think Lego was a brand? No. What about the Lego movie? Oh, I thought, okay, that's a Lego movie.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Cool. I mean, I really thought it was, I just thought it was a generic toy. Like, I didn't know there was a name that you, I thought there was a specific company. Okay. Well, I'm sorry, you've been eliminated. You've been boned. Morgan, what popular doll is known for iconic blonde hair and pink accessories? Oh, Barbie.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Correct. Abby, what toy is a cube-shaped puzzle that the player attempts to twist and turn, so all the squares on each face are the same color? A Rubik's Cube. Correct. The category is science. Anybody knew Lego is a brand. Am I?
Starting point is 00:28:21 We all at least knew LEGOs is the answer to that course. He's like looking it up right now. Yeah, I mean, there's all sorts of knock-off brands. That's what I'm saying. We're not arguing that knock-off brands, but. But even a lot of times, like, Q-tip is a brand, but you always call a cotton swab a Q-tip because they're so good at branding.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Like, Legos is so good at bringing. Everything's called Lego. I don't think you call it. Building blocks. Like you said. You just call them Building Blocks. I would say Lego. Go get the building blocks.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You just described building. You said the clue was Building Block. What plastic building block toy was invented in Denmark? And the Denmark part's tough, but everybody knew it was toys. It was easy. Yeah, so I thought building blocks. So I was very good.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Potato Head. You do have to build him together. Exactly. Science. Amy, what is the force that pulls objects towards the center of the earth? Towards the center? What is the force that pulls objects towards the center of the earth? Gravity? Correct. Morgan, what's the chemical symbol for water? H2O.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Correct. Abby Botany is the study of what? Oh, plants. Correct. Good job, everybody. Famous characteristics of U.S. states. Amy, what state is known for being the home to Mount Wants? Rushmore. Uh-huh. I want to go there.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I have not been, but I want to go to South Dakota. Correct. Morgan, what state is known for its rocky coastline and delicious lobster? What state is known for that? Rocky coastline and lobster would be Maine. Correct. Pretty good. Which state is famous for its cheese production?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Cheese. Okay, it's not going to mess this up. They have like cheese curds and stuff. Um, Wisconsin. Correct. Historical figures. Amy, who is the leader of the Underground Railroad? Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Okay. Two in my head. Two women. They're women. Harry Tubman. Correct. Morgan. Who is the famous scientist who formulated the theory of relativity?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Oh, gosh. Theory. Um. Famous scientist. Theory of Relativity. I don't know. As soon as Mr. Potato Head. It's going to come out of my head.
Starting point is 00:30:48 That's going to be your answer, huh? It's in there somewhere, but... Can you think of a famous scientist at all? Thomas Jefferson. Albert Einstein. Wait, who's the light bulb guy? You mean Edison? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I was thinking, I told you it wasn't in my head. Eddie, you're eliminated. You're not allowed to make fun people. You're not even the game, buddy. You're not even in the room. Yeah. What was the answer? Einstein.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Okay. Abby, you need to sustain the game. Who was the civil rights activist known for her refusal to give up her seat on the bus? Rosa Parks. Good job. Category sports, two people remain. Amy, what does MLB stand for? M as in money.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, MLB. Major league baseball. Correct. Abby, what does NFL stand for? National Football League. Amy, what does NHL stand for? National. Hockey League.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Correct. Abby, what does NBA stand for? National Basketball Association. Correct. Next category, tall. The category is tall. What's the tallest land animal, Amy? A giraffe.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Correct. What's the tallest building in the United States? Is that the... It's in New York. I know what it is. the building. I know what it is. Can you say it again?
Starting point is 00:32:17 The tallest in... Yeah. What's the tallest building in the United States? I don't give you myself time. The... No. The iPhone... The iPhone is now.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I am going to say, that's how this works. I always give the answer when you didn't get it. Why doesn't it come to me? It's the... It's the One World Trade Center. The what? She was thinking of the Empire State Building.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I was. Oh, no. Oh, shoot. I was. That was like in the 40s, the dollars on that. Oh. So say it again just for future? The one world trade center.
Starting point is 00:32:59 The one world trade center? Yeah. Eddie, you can turn your mic up. And Amy, you are the one of a nice job. Hey. All those questions, just a building block to life. You know what do you mean? Like a building block?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Just, you know, building blocks. You know, you build stuff. Like toys? Well, some would say toys. Some would say just like a little box that you put builds on. Huh. Mr. Potato. Abby got you the same spot.
Starting point is 00:33:27 No win. Doesn't matter. Okay, that's real. Maybe first or last. Thank you. Easy trivia. Another winner, Amy. A voice mail from last night.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Hey, so I was just sitting here wondering, hoping you could inform us all as listeners, just in terms of your typical morning routines. I'm always intrigued, waking up so early in the morning each day just to kind of go through your morning routine. And what's that about? I wake up in the morning and the summer dump a corner
Starting point is 00:33:53 I don't think I love a mic get on time. They're not down. Yeah, so I just set my alarm about 3, 45 or 4, and I usually wake up 30 minutes before that. Yourself. Wow. I hate it. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I hate it. I wish I could just sleep to my alarm, but I'm usually like, what time is it? Am I over sleeping? 30 minutes. Okay, I can risk it and go back to sleep. Ah, screw it. Just get up.
Starting point is 00:34:16 So that happens. Sometimes it's one in the morning. So my routine is that every morning I wake up running an obstacle course. on time. And then we have a situation now with the dog and the dog door. So I have to have to take the dogs out and be out with them in a while for a while in the morning now instead of just putting the dog door. So I do that. And then I feed them. I do a lot. It takes 15, 20 minutes to do the dog stuff. And then I sit down, look at the notes from the night before that I'd made and sent off to Mike. And then I just start working on the day and then come in and start the show.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I usually put on Sports Center while I'm working just so I could kind of understand what's going on in the world. In the sports world. That has nothing to do with this show. And then I'll flip around to the news later, but usually I watch the whole sports center. And then, you know, come in. Usually have us here of the studio, Mike. I'm the first one here, so I come in to do commercials before the show starts just forever.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Commercials and local liners. And then Amy's quick to come in pretty after me. And then Eddie. And then lunchbox shows up sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I try to get here like two minutes before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 That's it. Amy, your morning routine? Well, I mean, I wake up to my alarm and I don't press snooze anymore because for years and years and years and years I press snooze. But I am snooze free and then I journal for three minutes. You still journal even in the morning. Yes, that's when I like to journal. I set a timer for three minutes and then after that I go get coffee and then I get ready. Good few of the journaling that early. How long have you done that?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Is that like working out? You do it for like a week and you're like, this suck. Oh, gosh. I mean, I could go back and look at the date in my journals. I've gone through an entire. journal I had to get a new journal. Wow. So it is now. It's habitual. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Question. What do you journal about that early in the morning? Like, you just woke up. There's nothing to write. Dear diary, I'm sleepy. I can't wait to take a nap. I mean, once you get used to it, but there's journaling prompts you can use. You can ask yourself a question and then answer it. Or sometimes I'm like, your journal. Are you sleepy? Yes, I am. Yeah, you start off that way and then you end up writing more.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Here's Amy's pile of stories. What's your reason for working out? It's a great question. Training. Training for what? Exactly. You never know. Okay. Well, I thought two months I got married, I wouldn't care as much. And I'm not in a place now where I'm consumed or obsessed with how I look because I'm not doing anything on camera.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I really only care about that a whole lot whenever I know I'm going to be on camera. But I think it's just to be healthy. Well, it's making a shift for sure because a new study was just done. And only like a handful years ago, people were doing it for appearance and that was all. But now it is for mental health. When I do it for appearance, I work out in a different. way and I eat differently. Now, I had a croissant for breakfast. I don't think anything about it when it's only work related if I'm like, I'm four pounds overweight. That's because I know I got to be
Starting point is 00:37:00 on camera. And they want me to look good. So it's a pressure type thing. But generally, no, it's, yeah, it's head. It's mental stuff. Yeah, that's most people these days, exercising for, I don't just come out of those guys. Mental well-being. So if you haven't worked out in a while, see how it'll help you mentally. Maybe we say if you haven't exercised. Working out feels so like weights. Oh, true. I mean, yeah. Or been active.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That's a good one too. Right, because my workout is a hike. Yeah. Being active, I think is great for mental health. Like when I go to play pickleball with my friends, that's being active. And it's a great workout as well. Yes. Okay, so if you're stuck at a red light and you're like, why is it not changing?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Well, the light might not know you're there. So there's some things you can do to let it know. Like, there's sensors underneath you that are buried in the ground. A lot of times there's a rectangle notating where they are and you can kind of roll your car back. and forth over it. If that doesn't work, then you can start flashing your high beam headlights over and over because somehow that also could activate a sensor. A different kind of sensor that sees lights.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Is that for like emergency vehicles? No, ambulance. I think it's just a different sensor like a red light or like a camera. I think they're just different sensors that do different things. Right. And you never know what kind of sensors at the light you're at. It may not have any sensors in that case you're just stuck. That's when you do number three.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You look both ways and you go if it's been forever. Oh, exactly. Honking a horn, there's doesn't work at all. There's no noise. 911? Censors? No, but they do say, if you do any of this, please be safe about it. And then if you happen to get pulled over, you can just explain the situation to law enforcement. Yeah, that often works. If you do something illegal, but explain it. Yes. Okay, what else? A bus full of fourth graders on a field trip in Louisiana were singing Luke Combs. She got the best to me. And it's so cute. Do you want a field trip? Yeah, they were on a field trip. and they're on the bus, and I just feel like, as a kid,
Starting point is 00:39:10 that's going to be a core memory. Anytime they hear that song, they're probably going to think of that field trip when they were in fourth grade. That's definitely field trip vibes. Not going to school in the morning vibes. Definitely not. Because ain't no way I'm singing any song
Starting point is 00:39:22 with everybody else on that bus going to school. But field trip, you feel good. Is that it? I'm Amy. That's my pile. That was Amy's pile of story. It's time for the good news. With lunchbox. Stay at home, it's something good.
Starting point is 00:39:36 There's a student pilot. I'm going to go out for a fly. So they're out in Denver and they get an airplane. Like, let's go. And they get a single engine Cessna. They take off. All right, yeah, we're approaching 100. And all the power goes out in the plane.
Starting point is 00:39:53 100 what? 100 feet in the air. That's it. Oh my. That's the power went out quick. We sure they had power ever? They just got off the ground. It says 100 feet.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I don't know how far that is. It doesn't seem that far. But like, what do you do? No engine, no power. And it's just a student. Not like it's like some expert flyer. I'd be freaking out. Ah, we're all going to die!
Starting point is 00:40:13 Not this pilot. Student says, you know what? Just stay calm. Stay calm. Guides it. Hits two power lines. Boom. Oh, he didn't get to land it at the airport?
Starting point is 00:40:22 No. Like he didn't turn it around? No, there's no turning around, man. When you got no power, there's no turning. You just go. I didn't know if it was just the tools. Everything's out. Oh, the engine's out.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Engines out. Everything. It's just you and your passenger. Good luck. Hits a couple power lines. lands it safely in a field. Surprise the power line didn't like flip that plane over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 That's what I'm thinking. But no one was hurt. Well, that's amazing. Yeah, I don't know that I'm going to go up again. Or I'm not afraid to go up ever again because I just handled a situation. But me, I'm not going up ever again. Like I did it. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I'm going to need a backup engine from now on. I need some paper towels too. Yeah. For you to clean up the inside of the plane. Oh, for sure. Well, good. And the person that was on the plane with them is probably very happy to. Oh, just imagine.
Starting point is 00:41:09 if you're like, oh, hey, guys, I'm learning how to fly. Come fly with me. I got you. Are you showing off for a girl? Oh, dude. First date. And you hit a power line? Never going to get a second date.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Guarantee that. Or it's like hot. Yeah. Like saved your life. And he's like, hey, if you want to live. And we're all assuming it's a dude, huh? I think you said he. I did say he.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Okay. So you assumed first. Yeah, you told us it was a dude. All right. All right. That's it. Save the life. That's what it's all about.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Thank you. That was tell me something good. Much box. Do you think people. win the lottery a lot, which is very lucky or something's up. How do I think they're just lucky in that I have no luck? A Maryland family celebrating a $100,000 win on a scratch-off. It's their fifth lottery prize in the past five years.
Starting point is 00:41:51 That's crazy. How stupid? 2017, they won $50,000 bucks. Then they followed it with another $50,000 prize. Then another $50,000 prize. Then another $50,000 prize. And now $100,000 prize. Five and five years.
Starting point is 00:42:07 The father said the winnings would go toward a new car home. home improvements and sharing with his kids and grandkids from UPI.com. When you hear this, and you can win none, but they win five times. That makes me sick. Do you think they know something, though? Like, what could they know? Like, it's sort of like if the IRS, you know what I mean? If you cheated on your taxes, they would investigate.
Starting point is 00:42:25 The lottery would investigate them. If they were doing something, they were just that lucky. They must be. I've watched Mr. Beast buy all million dollars of those tickets on TikTok. Yeah. He bought it. And they brought him in a dump truck. About a million bucks in lottery tickets.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And he ended up, well, losing a couple hundred thousand bucks, but he ended up with like 700,000 after the million. That's so crazy. Million dollars in ten. I watched, I mean, I was watched like eight part, eight part series. It was so cool to see that dump truck pull up and just dump all the scratch offs off. Oh, so how did they scratch them all? No, he didn't even scratch.
Starting point is 00:42:58 They did the beeps unless it said they needed to check in at the office or whatever it was. Yeah. And then you scratch it and it tells you. I was like, man, they were busy. Yeah, no. He says that at the beginning too. We're just going to scratch the thing. But then when it said you won, then they had to scratch and see what they won.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah. But pretty cool. They spent a million bucks and still didn't make their money back. That's crazy. Yeah, there you go. All right, Amy's joke. Let's go. The morning corny.
Starting point is 00:43:23 What happened to the guy that was addicted to soap? What? He's clean now. Of course. Yeah, okay. That was the morning corny. A win is a win. win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the beach.
Starting point is 00:44:08 biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:44:32 podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of IHard Media, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, stories, stories, takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds in marketing. I'm talking to leaders from the entertainment industry to finance and everywhere in between. This season of Math and Magic, I'm talking to CEO of Liquid Death Mike Sessario, financier and public health advocate, Mike Milken. Take to Interactive CEO Strauss-Zalny. If you're unable to take meaningful creative risk and therefore run the risk of making horrible creative mistakes,
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Starting point is 00:45:35 on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Too many of us were never, ever, talk. Financial education is not always about like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. you get your podcast. It's a Bobby Bones show interview. In case you didn't know. His name's Lucas Nelson. You know, I met him a long time ago. He doesn't remember this.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he does. But he bumped into me on a Southwest flight once and I was sitting there and he bumped my shoulder. He was walking through. Oh, for sure he remembers that. I didn't say anything. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:56 He doesn't even interact. Maybe he did. No, there was no interaction. There's nothing at all. No, can be. But that was the first time. And I was like, that's Lucas Nelson. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Wow. That's pretty cool, huh? Yeah. He probably has the same story of like, I bumped shoulder. Bobby Bones. No, and yeah. Yeah. So, but we became friends earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We hung out for like three or four days. Played a lot of golf together. We were in California. And then I watched him play and I was just like, this guy is so good. He's obviously Willie Nelson's son, but his band is Lucas Nelson on the Promise of the Real. Got a brand new album out today called Sticks and Stones. He's going to play for us. The Friday morning conversation with Lucas Nelson.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I'm such a big fan, Lucas. Oh, man. You know what's funny? He can't say he's a big fan of mine. He travels all the time, but I like that he tried. No, I just... He's like, I'm such... No, I was going to say because when we met at Pebble, it was a good vibe.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And then when you posted some amazingly beautiful things, and it just made me feel so good. I appreciate that. Thank you. Lucas is just the nicest dude. And we met like humans. It wasn't even a work or... No, we were just hanging out. hanging out.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And so I remember we're eating like sausages over on a little table or something. And they're like, hey, Lucas Nelson, here, you want to come and play? And Lucas gets up. And he's just in his, you know, deal with, grabs the guitar. And it was like going to church. And I was a fan of your music already, but watching you play live, there was just something about, and I'm jaded. I get to see everybody that's good all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 But there was something about that performance that is unidentifiable by pointing a finger at it. But I was like, there's only two or three times. the past five, six years, I felt like that with music. And it was that, it was you. Well, Clint Eastwood was there, so I was trying to... Real pressure. We were all... I was in awe of that guy, you know, and...
Starting point is 00:48:47 No, but, you know, when... Something... I've always felt most comfortable in some ways just with an acoustic guitar and connecting in an intimate setting like that. You know, that is a nice format. and what did we start with I think we started with
Starting point is 00:49:08 Did you define yourself? We did define yourself That song Yeah My wife and I have listened to that thing 500 Because she was with me We were all together We've probably listened to that song 500 times
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah you were sitting with Jordan And that crew And Jake Owen was there And who else was there Was another friend of ours Ben Rector Ben Rector Yeah was there
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah those guys are all It was a very cool vibe and that intimate setting with all those golfers and musicians there it lends itself as actually a pretty good sounding room there for that too I just can't wait for people to hear you play
Starting point is 00:49:47 now they have a new record out today and what's interesting is I believe and you can correct me if I'm wrong you wrote all 12 of these songs yourself yeah yeah where is your right where does it happen for you are you on the road all the time and are you riding in a bus somewhere or do you yeah or on an airplane or you know
Starting point is 00:50:02 I've been writing with Ernest recently. He's a great, great artist that we met on the road with Jelly Roll. Jellie was doing a show with Dad, and I happen to be on the road with Dad for a minute because I had some weeks off, and I went and joined him on his tour, and Ernest and Jelly Roll were there. So I like writing with other people, but I'm really good at just sitting down and writing a song in like 30 minutes generally. When it comes, it comes quick. And then I just, and I'm writing for my show. You know, I'm writing for my audience. And I'm thinking about my audience when I write a song and what kind of rhythms and sing-along choruses do I want. What kind of
Starting point is 00:50:50 even pauses in the song to let them respond in some way, you know. Are you a perfectionist in your writing or are you a guy that you felt it? That's how you felt when you wrote it. That's the song. Well, you go back. I'll go back sometimes. And if I feel like something is better said some other way, then I'll write it that way. And I'll just, there are times when I'll be in the studio recording the song and singing the vocals,
Starting point is 00:51:23 and I'll think of a better way to say some phrase, and I'll change it right there. What about melody and lyrics? What is your go-to first, or is it a theme? Melody and lyrics to me go very closely together. What comes first? Lyrics often precede the melody, but very closely, it's a fraction of a second. It's like the time it takes to perceive the world around you in a way,
Starting point is 00:51:53 because as soon as I hear the phrase, I start internalizing the... syllables, the structure of the phrase and then adding a melody to it pretty dang quickly. Without an instrument oftentimes, I was writing actually with a friend of mine and
Starting point is 00:52:13 their approach was to write the groove first John Oates and my approach is to write the lyrics first. And so it's, you know, so it's kind of good when someone else is
Starting point is 00:52:31 good at grooves and one other guy's good at lyrics but but for me i write the the lyrics first generally and i'll write i'll think of something funny like um you know some clever twist of phrase you know uh what was katy said something you know uh earlier my my manager was like uh i haven't seen a friday and forever you know what does that mean but you you you you you you you turn it into a song. I hadn't seen a Friday in forever. It could be a drinking song. It could be a, you know, a work song, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Work never ends. What's your, if, what's the lane that you feel most comfortable writing? Is it tempo-wise? Do you like to write slow songs? You like to write bangers? If someone's like you get to write the best song possible, what is it for you? What do you feel most comfortable? I do enjoy writing ballads.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I think I tend to. there's a few songs that I've written in the past that I feel like have connected deeply to people forget about Georgia as a song like that there's songs on on my self-titled record that that still get requested quite often on our live show I set me down on a cloud and find yourself as a more upbeat song that people that's my favorite song to play live because because it seems to, it's an evergreen song. It's a song that I never get tired of playing. I'm always thinking about live shows when I'm playing a show.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So if I'm thinking about a moment in the show where I can rock, rock, rock, bounce, bounce, dance, dance, and then bring it down into a moment where then I really can reach a heart or two. and that just connects people more deeply into the lyrics. When you strip everything down, they focus more on what's being said. And a lot of times, I think that's important, you know. Can you talk about your Aunt Bobby for a second? Yeah. Because I was talking with Amanda Shire's.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, Amanda's great. And she did the record with your aunt, and then your aunt passed away after they had finished the record. And so I'd spend a lot of time listening to the record. and your aunt was she wrote and she played you know in the same band with you even your dad yeah what was she like as a person she was a literal angel like an angel on earth i've never before since met anyone as kind and gentle and compassionate she had she had that old southern charm you know she you know really she was beautiful um and she stayed beautiful till she was It was 91, you know, and I think there were a lot of old men who had big crushes on her out there.
Starting point is 00:55:32 But she was also very strong and a musical force of nature. She was – dad always says she was the best musician of his band, and she is a great mind for music. She played – on one of my tracks, she played – I have a song called Just Outside of Austin. And I was lucky enough to have her on that song. She plays the introduction to the song and then, of course, throughout the song. And it took her maybe two minutes to write this little part when we were recording. And it was genius, as she was a musical genius. And still influences my piano approach and taught me a little bit about piano when I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:56:24 so she had a like you say it's church every time with her do you feel like with you in all the instruments that you play and how you grew up it nature nurture meaning were you born with a little bit of it and or was it just you were surrounded by it and maybe you were just born a blank slate because you were surrounded by it all the time what do you think nature nurture and your music the hard work that you put in and natural ability that's a good question because there I've heard that there's a theory
Starting point is 00:56:58 that we carry genetic memory in our DNA and I'm not sure if that's true or not. I've heard it from a number of sources that it would indicate that it's possible
Starting point is 00:57:14 but I do know that I've been around it so much that and follow and in love with it. I mean, you can be around it and it just doesn't choose you, you know, and I got lucky enough that it chose me. Music has saved my life on a number of occasions and brought me, just kind of rerouted me from my excess and reminded me that I have a purpose.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And in a way, that's like why people go to church, why people have religion. And so, music has become that for me. It's become a beacon of, you know, of a path to follow. And some people follow it, but peripherally, you know, some people will say, okay, I'll follow this path, but I'm really following it because I want the lifestyle or I want this or that. And I have, the reason my band name is Promise of the Real is because I had to, I want to see that. I want to see that on the marquee every day and remind myself of why I do it. It's about keeping the integrity of the purpose of my life. You know, promise of the real is, okay, you remember that this is the real reason you started playing music.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And so don't get pulled away in all these different directions. It's very easy to get pulled away. I see a lot of my friends and family and people that came before me get trapped in these different, on these different paths that lead to dead ends in the music industry. And so I didn't want that for myself. So I remind myself every day with my band name, Promise of the Real, that this is why I'm doing it, you know. Is it a self-awareness or is it a learned self-awareness?
Starting point is 00:59:08 Or is it that you have had experiences now where you're like, I just don't want to go back to that? Both, maybe. I don't know if I, I don't know how self-aware I am in community. comparison to anyone else, but I do know that I've made mistakes and I don't want to make them again. Do you feel like mistakes don't make good music? Like I was always afraid to therapy because I was like, if I go to therapy and I start
Starting point is 00:59:31 to get right, I'm not going to be on the year and have all these real, compelling things to say. The irony of that is, is that I make better music now that I can reflect in a calm and peaceful manner. I can't, back when I was going through it, back when I was in my... those days, which actually this album really chronicles the first few songs of the album. The album details a character who goes through the same journey that I did. And in the beginning, it's all party, right?
Starting point is 01:00:04 And Alcalo'Alua, you know, there's a defiance and, you know. And I realized, though, that it wasn't the, it wasn't the high that got me to, to these places of creativity. It was the finding my way back home. And that at these moments when I was home in my mind, when I say home, I mean the clarity. You have to have clarity in order. There were only flashes of clarity
Starting point is 01:00:38 that allowed me to write songs that helped me look back and process the moments that I had. Find Yourself, for example, was a breakup song. But I didn't write it as I was writhing in agony. You know, I wrote it as I found my way back. I hope you find yourself before I find somebody else was a statement of returning to where I was strongest and taking the power that I have back from this person
Starting point is 01:01:15 who had let take my... power away from me. You know, I know the love that I deserve, you know. So my best work comes when I'm looking back at the darkness and taking the light from it. Does that sometimes get you through the darkness knowing that one day you're going to get out of it, and you're going to have a perspective and even an empathy for somebody else going through it? Yes, because, I mean, in my darkest moments, we're more younger. I've had a lot of my My brother passed away when I was really young. It was heavy on the whole family.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It was a very, very intense and painful way to go. And I think that influenced my upbringing in some ways. I think it influenced why I chose certain paths and how I wanted to relate to my parents. I didn't want to go down too dark a path. I didn't want to repeat similar mistakes. And so, but in my own pain, and I realized there's a great song that I actually did with my dad that George Harrison wrote called All Things Must Pass. And I remember being in the darkest place and that repeating in my mind, that phrase that, that you just got to, everything changes, everything morphs and moves. and goes from up to down to up to down the pendulum when it swings one way, has to swing the other.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And so if I can just stay steady and persevere and get through this time, I'm going to find the light at some point. And so that's just been my process of getting through any kind of hardship, you know, always. And it reminds me that I have the strength to do it when I do. You know, and that's a, it's also very, a lot of good music can come from that, a lot of good, reminding yourself that your best self is your best self. And the trapping is, the temptation is, the idea is that you've got to fly into the sun in order to be who you need to be. And I don't believe that's true at all.
Starting point is 01:03:44 There's a song called Icarus on my record, you know. It's about, it is. sort of about that it's like you know it's a funny song but it's you know icarus was a greek in the myth where the son believes he's invincible and that he can fly close or even into the son and his father keeps warning him look man you're gonna hurt yourself and finally the wax on his feathers melt and he falls to his death and a lot of young people believe that they're and that they can fly into the sun and that nothing will happen to them. They can't imagine not being around.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And that's why so many people get lost, I think. And so, you know, this, my art is about always staying true to where I believe perseverance is possible. And my dad was a good beacon of inspiration for that as well. how do you feel about your voice? And I ask that because I can't stand to listen to my voice. Because, and you know, I've do this at a pretty high level. Yeah. But I'm like, I hear it all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I don't like it. Can't it. When you hear yourself, are you like, Dad, Lucas Nelson can sing? How do you feel about listening to your own voice? Sometimes, you know, sometimes I think, oh, that was pretty good. And then other times I think, you know, turn that shit off. You know, but it depends.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Like, you know, I'm getting better at singing all the time. I'm, I'm, the last record that I did is not, I listen to this record more than, than other records that I've done. Now, I'm getting, I'm at the point now where I don't want to turn it off. I can just, I, you know, it's like anything. You just, if you're good enough, here, I was talking about this the other day. if your ear is good enough to detect when it sounds bad, you're 90% there, right? And that's what I tell people who always want to sing. I say, if you've never sang before and you sing into a microphone, you say, oh, that sounds
Starting point is 01:05:59 terrible, you're actually in good shape because the people who are really bad singers can't tell. They don't know. You know? So you can just get it to the point where you kind of like it or you know you can tell. it's in tune. I mean, look, there's a lot of strange and magical voices out in the world. Neil Young has a strange and magical voice that's vulnerable and shaky, but right on key and right in pitch. You know, Joe Walsh.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I mean, all these different types of voices exist, but I think what's important is the soul behind it. And I think what's important, and I mean that by the person. I think the experience, the passion, and then making sure you're on pitch and in key is obviously the most important. I only ask that because your voice is one of the best things I've ever heard him a whole life. And I was like, even if he doesn't, maybe even if Lucas thinks sometimes like, eh, like maybe that means I'm not so bad. I'm using that for me, you know, maybe it means I'm not so bad. No, well, the thing is is that, and my dad always told me this, he said, you know, because he's got an interesting different voice as well. And I think that he always said, don't be afraid to be weird.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Or don't be afraid to be different, you know, with your voice. Leon Russell is another example. They were best friends. It's okay if your voice isn't normal, quote unquote, you know, because you know what? That makes you unique and uniquely who you are. and people resonate with people who aren't afraid to be who they are, I think, you know. I never thought about, as you're mentioning Leon Russell or George Harrison,
Starting point is 01:07:46 I never thought about the exposure to the great artists that you also just had, just that were just around you, that other, like that either your dad knew or you're playing on tour with. And you're such a normal dude. I mean, this is in the best way. I just never thought about you hanging out with a beetle or even knowing a beat or Leon Russell But that's people that your dad knew. Yeah, I mean, look, George, I didn't know very well. I mean, I don't think I ever met George Harrison.
Starting point is 01:08:12 He lived on Maui, interestingly enough, which I grew up in Maui. But I know his son. I know a lot of, but like George, I never met. Leon, I did. Actually, I met Leon Russell and actually had an adult sit-down conversation with him just before he passed randomly on the island. of Kurosau off the tip of Venezuela. And I was so surprised.
Starting point is 01:08:39 It was a gig that we did. It was on this island. And it was so random. And Leon Russell was playing it too. And we met at this hotel. There's nobody else around. We had a dinner. And he was great.
Starting point is 01:08:52 And then I was grateful because I'd never had my own one-on-one time with a lot of these guys I'll have very quick hellos. My dad will know them. They'll come on the bus. They'll hang out with dad. When I was young, they were all smoking and drinking. And so, you know, I wasn't even allowed to be around that a lot of the times. But my favorite moments were the artists that when I was a kid, I was also into, like Leon, like Ray Charles.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I was going to ask about Ray Charles next. Yeah. And you met Ray? Oh, yeah. Ray was, I've never seen. Dad, when Ray sang, so they did a birthday tribute to Dad, I think it was his 80th, maybe, or it could have been his 70th, but I think it might have been 80. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:09:50 But every decade he does, like last, this last one was the 90th, and it was an incredible birthday celebration where all of his friends came around. There were 30 amazing artists on there. But one of them, Ray was there. and it was Ray and Leon and Dad and they sang a song for you which is a beautiful song I've been so many places
Starting point is 01:10:15 in my life and time you know that song do you well if you don't go and listen to it because it's a beautiful and there's a YouTube video of Dad and Ray Charles and Leon Russell and Dad sings the first first I believe
Starting point is 01:10:33 Leon sings a second and then they just let Ray take the rest of the song and I'm getting emotional thinking about it because when I was a few years later when it went on YouTube and YouTube became a thing I pulled it up for dad and I said dad you remember this
Starting point is 01:10:51 and we sat and watched it and he cried I never see it doesn't happen very often you know he's a very I mean not saying he's not he's just you know he's from the quiet generation. He's a cowboy. But I could see that he was so moved
Starting point is 01:11:08 that his hero, Ray Charles, was paying tribute to him in that way. And so those are the moments that really stick out. Muhammad Ali and Chris Christopherson coming by the house. Those are the real moments, you know, that stick out. That's crazy. Well, let me say this about your record. First of all, I'll say it again in case you just turn it on.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I'm a massive Lucas Nelson fan. I can do this for three hours. I often do it when you're not here just practicing when you are here I do it just talk to the chair like it's you waiting for this time All right Bobby Well you know what you have me at a disadvantage
Starting point is 01:11:40 So I'm gonna I promise you I'm gonna do this I'm gonna listen to all your podcasts Can you imagine? Can you imagine? I'm gonna sit down and I'm gonna be so well versed That when we play golf next I'm gonna be like you remember Please don't you'll like me less
Starting point is 01:11:54 So you know we're good how it is We're just two dudes who like to hang out Okay so Lucas's record Which we mentioned before he came in Sticks and Stones It is out today. I am such a massive fan of Lucas. And you're going to play,
Starting point is 01:12:05 are you going to play sticks and stones now? Yeah, I was just going to do that. You want me to do that now? That would be awesome. Come on. Lucas Nelson. Awesome, man. It's hard to sing that one early, but I got it.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Seeing you go, he goes, it's hard to sing, and we're like blown away. That's my point with the question. Like, do you ever hear your voice? Because we're all like, that's crazy. And you're like, yeah, it'll do. It's awesome, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:12:30 It's awesome. Okay. The record's out today. Yes, sir. It's out today. It's 12 tracks. I know this wasn't talked about, and maybe you can indulge me, maybe you cannot. You brought it up a couple times.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Could you play a little bit of find yourself? Do you need to pay-po? Yeah, yeah. Let's see if I can do this. Oh, boy. I might have to move this back because I'm going to enunciate more. Give it a rip. Come on, that is freaking on.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Come on. Dang. Another one. I started throwing dollars at him, but I thought it was an insult. I was like, I don't know. I could give him everything. I was like, oh, if that's in the morning, I can't imagine what that sounds like at night. And he's like, I guess that'll do. No, that's the greatest.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Put that in the Smithsonian, that recording right there. Here's what we're going to say. Everybody, his album is out today. Sticks and Stones. He's all over as well. Go to Lucas Nelson.com. He's all through where this show is everywhere from, you know, Montana, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, Colorado, just looking at some of the dates coming up.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Kansas City, St. Lewis. If you're hearing us, he's probably coming there. Just the best. And as good as he is here, like, even a better dude, I'm telling you. Oh, hey. Just that. Dude, you're the best. You are. Mutual. Thank you, brother. Super pumped that you came in. And if you don't see us
Starting point is 01:13:47 on the road coming to your town, just know we're booking the whole rest of the years. So, still more to come. We're going to be out a lot. And if you don't see your town on the tour, don't worry, we're coming. Lucas Nelson and Promise of the Real. Yeah. Album is out. Sticks and Stones all over
Starting point is 01:14:03 road and there he is. Thank you, Lucas. That was great. There is. Lucas Nelson. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 01:14:30 This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Listen to the Clifford show on the IHard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of IHard Media, and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing. Math and magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds and marketing. I'm talking to leaders from the entertainment industry to finance and everywhere in between. This seasonal math and magic, I'm talking to CEO of Liquid Death Mike Cessario, financier and public health advocate, Mike Milken. Take-2 interactive CEO, Strauss-Zalny. If you're unable to take meaningful creative risk and therefore run the risk of making horrible creative mistakes, then you can't play in this business.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Sesame Street CEO Sherry Weston and her own chief business officer, Lisa Coffey. Making consumers see the value of the human voice and to have to have. have that guaranteed human promise behind it really makes it rise to the top. Listen to math and magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money.
Starting point is 01:16:22 What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about, like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear
Starting point is 01:16:58 more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What Lunchbox is going to do is report on JFK and the JFK assassination conspiracies. He's up
Starting point is 01:17:16 there though and he has no computer or papers. Like nothing. Not even the wig he talked about. You could have done this any day and not missed two extensions. No, no, I know, but that's what we need to talk about. What? Are we doing this again or you don't have it? Well, listen, listen, listen, listen. You guys told me I had to have wigs.
Starting point is 01:17:32 You said you were bringing wigs. No, no, no, no. I was told that I had to have wigs. Okay, go ahead. And so I... The wigs would be like George Washington. Well, you guys told me I had to have wigs. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:17:44 The point was you were going to be like... Literally, you said I had to have wigs. Are we going to do the report? So the wigs are delayed in shipping. And so I don't have the wigs. Okay, you know what? I'm okay, wigless if we just do the report. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:56 No, no, I already spent my money on the wigs. Oh, he's stalling bones. Save the wigs for something else. Yes, exactly. Do you have the report? I have the report. Okay, let's hear the report. No, hold on.
Starting point is 01:18:05 But the wigs are going to add so much to it. How many wigs did you order? I ordered four wigs. For what? Four. Who are the four? Are you doing four characters? There's so many people.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Okay, the one waiting. If he's got four wigs, guys, I'm going to have to give them extension because I must see the full production. Interesting. I mean, so for everyone you're talking about you're going to have a wig for them? Yeah. This is the whole production and I've got to see it. And I'm okay extending it if we're going to see a full production. Is each person's hair that different?
Starting point is 01:18:29 Who cares? I'm ready to see four wigs bounce on it. And you're not making this up. No. When did the wigs get here? They were supposed to be here yesterday. Okay. But now they're delaying.
Starting point is 01:18:39 It says, you should get them Sunday. You should get, you know what I mean? Like, when you look at that thing, it's like, I don't know. So Monday. I should be able to do it. Scoob, Steve, what do you think about this? I'm just so. Look, I'm talking.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Do you think he doesn't have it? And he's just like, so I'm with you. I want to see the wigs too. But I also worry because I think he was thinking he was doing a whole report on JFK, like he was born this day. I don't think he knows about this conspiracy. But I thought that's what report was there. Yeah, but I think he's thinking something else and now he's trying to stall to now figure that part out to have the next one. Can you tell us just something you've learned through this report?
Starting point is 01:19:12 I've learned a lot. Okay, I believe him. No, no, no. No, I believe him. He said that with such assured. He does that all the time. I'm with it. I think the guy's ready.
Starting point is 01:19:22 He just wants the wigs. Like, it is baffled. Would you want to see them act out cats without a cat costume? No, no. Can we get one theory? What do you mean? I want to know he has something. Okay, just give us a, I believe you.
Starting point is 01:19:34 CIA! I'm in! He's good. I'm in! He's good. I do not understand. He's good. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Don't sit anymore. I'm on your side. And now I want to see the CIA wig. I know what that is. Okay. And see, here's the thing. With those wigs, the one wig is going to play multiple people because there's so many people. Like, you can't name all the people.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Let me just ask you one question. Do you think that Lee Harvey Oswald was the killer? No comment. That is part of my presentation. Do you think that Lee Harvey Oswald, if he was the killer, was told to kill by somebody other than just himself?
Starting point is 01:20:13 No comment. Okay. He knows. He knows. I got a question. What? What do you know about the grassy knoll? Over by the fence?
Starting point is 01:20:21 He knows about it. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. I know. Okay. We're waiting for the wigs.
Starting point is 01:20:28 We're waiting for the wigs. Okay. It's crazy. Okay, so no wheel of punishment. No. Heck, let's give him the will of gifts. Yay. Will of wigs.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Okay. So Monday or Tuesday, whenever the wigs get here, we will do the bit. Which, by the way, lunchbox is in a chair. Would you like some reverb? Yeah. Can I get, hello. From the other side. Do you hear that?
Starting point is 01:20:53 Can you tell the difference? No. Oh, now echoes, echoes. That's what reverb is. Oh, is that, okay, it's like I'm in a hallway. Allway, hallway, hallway. Do you want to hear your voice with autotune? Oh, yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Okay, here you go, and go. Lee Harvey Oswald. That's perfect. That's somehow still out of tune. No, there's no auto tune. I got a question. I really don't know how to say his name. Is that Oswald or Oswald?
Starting point is 01:21:17 Oswald. Oswald. Okay. So, okay. Monday. Mike, are there any other effects you can do on his voice over there? Oh. Okay, do chorus.
Starting point is 01:21:24 What's love got to do Got to do with it What's love But a second-hand immersion Immation And who shot JFK Who shot John F. Kennedy? Was it you?
Starting point is 01:21:41 Was it me? Oh, I don't know. Is this you understand that? Thank you, lunchbox. No, no, I just, I don't know what Mike was doing the thing So I was just trying to hear different things. Thank you, lunchbox. Yeah, you're welcome, Matt.
Starting point is 01:21:52 All right, cool. Thank you, there he is. I will get that performance on Monday or Tuesday show whenever the wigs get here. And by the way, if you guys are on Wichita, Kansas, tickets to the Saturday show is sold out, but the Friday show at the Orphium Theater, we're going to shoot a special there.
Starting point is 01:22:05 We'd love for you to come. Go to Bobbybones.com and get tickets. Wichita, Kansas, would love to see you guys. There's a woman in the news. She's 34. She's offering a $5,000 reward to anyone who can set her up with a husband. And then she shares the criteria for her ideal man. Her name's Eve Attilly.
Starting point is 01:22:21 She's 34, 5,000 bucks. California woman, so here you go. She wants her future husband to be between the ages of 27 and 40. He likes sports. Be a good communicator. Be at least six foot. Have good wit, banter, and the ability to poke fun at her. The 34-year-old also knows she doesn't want the man that she marries to do any drugs,
Starting point is 01:22:41 adding that she has no preference on where they live or what political or religious stance they have. That's a lot. That's like a $20,000 reward to find that. Yeah. That's rare. That's fine. Six foot dude is just like sports. Good communicator.
Starting point is 01:22:56 That's hard. The ability to poke fun at her, but poking fun and making fun are different. Right. There's a very lot. There's some sensitivity there. That's probably because she wants to be able to poke fun too. Well, everybody always like to have to poke fun. I mean, until you get poked by somebody that's actually pretty good at it.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Then you don't like it that much anymore. But $5,000. And that to me is not really so much the story, but she does give her criteria. What would your criteria be, Amy? because hers is 27 to 40. Oh. Like sports, good communicator, six foot, good wit, banter, ability poke fun at her.
Starting point is 01:23:28 What would yours be? I thought we kind of went over this. No, but I didn't hear it in the same. Yeah, go ahead and run. Let's do this. Between the ages of. Okay, so I'm 42. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:39 40 and 50. I don't think you're going young. I can go a couple years younger. You go 37. You can go 34. Here, no. Go 18. Tassel.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Like, I am a mom. I'm not going to have kids. Some men in their 30s if they don't have kids. Okay. You're shutting people down already without even knowing what you is. I just feel like they probably want kids. Let's say they have kids. They're a 36-year-old with kids.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Okay. How many? She starts to then be judgy. How old are they? Okay, so I'm sorry. I don't want to say your list for you. So ages of. Oh, you don't.
Starting point is 01:24:13 No, go ahead. I'm sorry. I overstepped when I said 37. You said 40 to 50. 40 to 70. Okay. 40 to 50. You should go older than 50, though.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Okay, 52. 42. It's your list. Not me. What am I doing? I don't even. Okay. And then he likes sports, be a good communicator, be at least six foot. So give me two, give me something he likes, something he's good at and a height you need. Something he likes. Okay. Hiking. Okay. He likes hiking. Something he needs to be good at. Yeah. I think knowing. I got what you're saying. A communication is a good one, but there's so much more to that. It's kind of self-awareness. Like, Let's be aware. Be self-aware. Right. Like, I want him to be good at that. So.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Be at least how tall? Oh. I don't. What is everybody's heights here? You know. I'm the only one six foot tall in the whole place and everybody else isn't. Eddie's not? I'm six.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I'm six one. We've measured. We haven't. If you're six one, I'm definitely six then. I mean, under five, what's the five, eleven? Ray is four. Eleven. So five-11 to six, five.
Starting point is 01:25:19 You pay money to see Ray at the circus? Is that what you're saying? 511 to 6.5. 511 to 6. I mean... 6. But I can... I'm 56, so really anything above 5.6.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You're okay with that? Wow. What's the... We're the same exact. So would you date someone raise height? We've measured. Would you date Ray's height? I like Ray.
Starting point is 01:25:41 So what? It would be... That was not an answer? I would like... What? Okay. Okay. She says she had to have good wit and banter and the ability to poke fun at her.
Starting point is 01:25:50 So they need to have good blank and the ability to do blank for you. You. They didn't have good hands in the ability to massage my neck and back in her. Good hands and the ability to give a good massage. Yeah. Okay. She says she doesn't want. But I do like wit and banter too. She says she doesn't want the man that she marries to do any drugs. Now you don't want the man that you marry to do any blank. Or to date even. To do any blank. Illegal activity. At all? Can't speed. Yeah. I mean. Litter. Five to ten over isn't illegal.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Yeah, but illegal. J-walk. You're just saying illegal. activity straight up. I mean, I don't want him to be shady. Like, I don't want him to be you know, like he seems like he's got it all together super successful and then come to find out white collar crime. I don't want time for that. Like a scammer? Yeah. Like a Tinder
Starting point is 01:26:37 Swin? Or what's the what is the guy? Bernie Made off. You don't want to date Bernie made off. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. You know, someone that like a lot of people trusted him. Like this guy seems trustworthy and then boom,
Starting point is 01:26:51 you find out he's just been stealing all your money. So no made-offs. No Ponzi scheme. Right. Right. Nobody involved in a Ponzi scheme. Yeah. And are you offering a reward? Oh, I mean, yeah, sure. Okay. How much? If somebody can find that. That exact guy. Wait, you already offered a reward, didn't you?
Starting point is 01:27:11 No, that's for your ring. Oh, yeah. What? Hey, Bobby, this is another ring. That's true. Okay, $500. Oh, I'm on, I'm on it. I'm on it. All right. We're out. She's offered a $500 reward. Into it?
Starting point is 01:27:25 I'm hitting the streets today. There's a social media page that's called, Are We Dating the Same Guy that Amy was telling me about? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My friend told me about it. It's on Facebook. This is like a national thing, but it's divided by cities. So there's a, are we dating the same guy, question mark, Nashville.
Starting point is 01:27:44 And my friend was showing me the page when we went to it. You have to ask to be a member. So you have to submit yourself and they approve you. So I'm not a member. but there's 40,000 women that are in Nashville. So, but what do they say? They're talking about with people they've dated before to let people know? Yes, they, like, my friend sent me a thread of one that's like, you know, super sweet guy.
Starting point is 01:28:05 My impression was, you know, that he's fun, but not looking for anything serious. And then someone's like, oh, thanks for that heads up. Because if you think you're looking for someone serious and then this is Mr. Fun guy over here and other people. Do you mention guys by names? I don't. They have to have a way that they're doing it. You know about the site?
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah, I'm on it. Do they do names? Oh, you're on it? Yeah. Okay. So this guy, I feel bad whoever this guy is because they're like, oh, yeah, he's a fun guy, but he does not want serious. He will lie to your face about any number of things, including the number of women he's
Starting point is 01:28:35 seeing and, you know, hooking up with right now. So if you're looking for anything more than a fun night out, run far, far away. But people on Facebook just say mean stuff. No, no. They have rules here, though. And Morgan probably can speak to it, but they're like, hey, this isn't a bash fest. This is meant to be helpful. Morgan, what are your thoughts on this page?
Starting point is 01:28:52 Yeah, I mean, so they will post a picture of a guy and his name. They do a picture. So it's identifying them. And it's so, I mean, the reason I got on it is because my ex-ex boyfriend was on it and it was a whole thread. And there was a lot of things about it. And there was girls verifying things that happened. And so there's a lot of truth to what people say on it. It's not nice.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Yeah. I wouldn't think it would be. It didn't feel like a place to go and be loved. No, but it, and it's, there are a few that I've seen. or it's like, okay, this is a decent guy. Not a lot of bad things to say, but most of it is bad guys. I'm not going to say much more, but you're XX?
Starting point is 01:29:28 He's the one in the news recently? Yes. Oof. Yep. I sent Eddie that story. Yeah, I said, oof. Wait, wait, wait, wait, he was in the news? Wait, Donald, talk about it anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Wait, Morgan was in the news? No. No. Morgan was it. Morgan was it. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:29:42 What do you mean? You're not going to show me the story? Nope. Not on the air. Not on. We don't want you to run with it right now. I won't read the I will not say
Starting point is 01:29:50 I don't trust you you lied too many times just let me get a reaction like my reaction of what he's in the news for like just pull that's all you're going to do no I don't make a big deal about it I'll move on I swear
Starting point is 01:29:59 I swear your reaction to be oh my god okay I want to see it just show on the headline are you sure yeah just that's it though nothing else are you sure
Starting point is 01:30:06 moving on just the headline in the news I don't know it I don't know it either but because I know Morgan's situation with that X
Starting point is 01:30:14 I know it's nothing that it's not funny I bet it's not good You're not saying Yeah, Eve. See what I'm saying? There you go.
Starting point is 01:30:25 So, yeah. That'll probably make the page. There's that reaction. Sorry, Morgan. Yeah, he's been on the page before for similar things, yeah. Okay, well, thank you guys for your time. Lunchbox, thank you for selling that bed out.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Wow. Okay, okay. He's still reacting. Hey, how long ago was me? No, we're not. No, no, that's what I just said. Bobby Bones show. Bonehead.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Norrie of the day. This story comes us from Marshall County, Indiana. A 39-year-old woman had a job interview with the sheriff's department. She drives down, sitting in the room. They start asking her questions. Like, oh, what's your previous work experience? They're like, ma'am, are you slurring your word? Yeah, ma'am, your eyes are kind of bloodshot. Did you have some alcohol this morning? And she admitted, yes, she was nervous about the interview. And she admitted to driving to this precinct. They gave her a test. That's a tough place to drive.
Starting point is 01:31:17 drunk too. It is. It is. He shouldn't drive drunk ever. But that's tough. And I get being nervous and wanted to do something about it, but you can't do all that, especially to the precinct. Never actually driven to a precinct? But if I did, I'd make sure to not have no alcohol on me at all. Yeah, so she got a DUI and she was arrested and she did not get the job. Did she even get the job? That's terrible. Hopefully she says the thank you card though, because you never know. That thank you
Starting point is 01:31:41 card sometimes makes a big difference. All right, is that it? I'm Lunchbox. That's your bonehead story of the day. I was talking to Eddie, and he said he's supposed to ask you about tubing. What was it? Somebody at church came to me and said, oh, my gosh, I'm a friend of Amy's, and she needs to tell you about this tubing story. Did you have a tubing story you didn't show with us? Like an accident or something? I went tubing.
Starting point is 01:32:00 Okay, go ahead. Oh, something happened. She just lowered her head in shame. Wait, did she say that? No, it's not bad. It's just embarrassing. That's kind of what she said. I don't like to go fast at all.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Like, I can't, you know, I get on and I freak out. And so I think... On a tube? On a tube? And my kids are like, go faster, go faster. And I'm riding with them. And, you know, you do thumbs up for, hey, good, let's go. Thumbs down for...
Starting point is 01:32:26 So my kids are like, thumbs up. And I'm like, thumbs down, thumbs down. And she said she made it to like 18 miles an hour or whatever with me. And so they were just thought I was lame. But I had a good time. Oh, you were on the back of a boat. Yes. Getting dragged by a tube.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I had picture her on the river. I'm like, how she couldn't control on the speed on the river? Oh, I thought boat. Okay. She's getting pulled by too. Yeah, but that's not that embarrassing. Yeah, but I don't know. Apparently, she's never, my friend was driving the boat, and that's probably who Eddie talked to, and she's never pulled a tube at 18,000 hours. So slow. I was going to say, it's hard to even keep it floating. Yeah, apparently that's like so lame. Were you ever a fast tuber or a wakeboarder? And honestly, nobody's ever made me feel this way about it until this trip. It's on her. Yeah, but she's a good friend, so it's fine. I can wake skate pretty good. I can wake surf okay, and I could finally wake surf this last time with no rope, which I thought was pretty cool because I never tried it before. I haven't worked surfed a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:33:24 I've wakeboarded some, but that's so fast. Wakeboarding is like super fast. You do jumps and stuff? If you're good. I just remember I would just, bam, face would hit the water. That's like super fast. But I watched Walker Hayes flip a couple days ago on his Instagram story, weightboarding.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Oh, cool. He hit the thing and did a whole flip and then landed it. Wow. Like, Jake Owen is probably the water sport king of country music, but Walker Hay is just such a good athlete. That needs to be an award for that. Water Sport King of music. Did people still kneeboard?
Starting point is 01:33:51 Let me check. It's not in 87. Nope, not anymore. I checked. Yeah, I did check my watchtip, but the 80s still. That's the only thing I can do. Thank you. Have a great weekend.
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