The Bobby Bones Show - FRI PT 2: Aaron Watson On Crying At A Taylor Swift Concert + Getting To Perform With His 19-Year Old Son + Secret To Their 24-Year Marriage

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Aaron Watson stops by the studio. He shares the moving reason he cried at a Taylor Swift concert. He shares how he is having the most fun ever performing now that he's getting to do shows with his 19-...year old son. He shares the secret to being married for 24 years and how they lost a child together. Aaron talks about his new record "Horse Named Texas" and what it means to be an independent artist.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:12 Aaron Watson. There is Aaron Watson, everybody. Yeah. Come here, come on here, come on. Have a see. You too. Here he is. He's making the rounds. What's that, man?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Good to see it. This guy will shake hands with everybody. I like it. At the sake of our ratings, he will shake hands with everybody. You should have thought about your ratings before you invited me on here. I'm just throwing that out there. What's up, buddy?
Starting point is 00:03:33 I'm good. I'm glad I didn't wear that shirt. Were you going to wear the same cardigan? Yeah. Oh, you mean the one behind you or the one? The one behind me. I'm glad I didn't wear that shirt. I thought he was taking a jab at your pink shirt and your cardigan.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I would have accepted that and said, I'm glad you didn't wear my pink shirt and cardigan as well. Well, I do have a cardigan. One? I have one. At home? My daughter bought it for me. And do you wear it? I wore it once when we went to a Taylor Swift concert.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Because that's a Taylor Swift thing. How did you like going to a Taylor Swift concert? It was fun. I enjoyed it. I'll tell you, I've cried at two concerts in my career. And one was at Paul McCartney when he got up there and sang a song that he wrote for John. And then the other one was the Taylor Swift concert. I cried.
Starting point is 00:04:17 What moved you about that? Just this music that I've been enjoying with my daughter, her whole life, from when she was little. and then seeing her just lose her mind going crazy, having fun, and she started crying. And I think I just, I looked at her at some point and I was like, my little girl is growing up quick. And I just realized I was having like a moment. Like I realized I was having a moment. And it was pretty special. And it was, it was a fun concert, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know, my daughter was very impressed that like I was getting ready. recognized and took some selfies. But I did tell her, I said, hey, I want you to look at this, where this section we're sitting. Go down, because your dad's already done the math for what I paid for the tickets. I said, go down eight rows, from here down eight rows, all the way over to the next walkway aisle. I said, those seats. Your old man has to play about 150 shows a year to make that much money. So just letting you know how amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:24 like I was like girl I'm thinking the math of course you know there's no telling what her production costs but it was a it was a fun show and yeah the big show people love the not obviously the songs but how she pulls off that show it's so impressive and I mean I've always been a Taylor Swift fan I grew up my buddy Scott his mom is Liz Rose so like wrote all the songs early with Taylor yeah I remember in like the early 90s going over to Liz's house and there was some guitars and I remember asking Scott like what's up with the guitars and I remember Scott going I don't know mom thinks she's going to be a songwriter or something and so that's just such a great story in
Starting point is 00:06:06 itself so but the weirdest thing ever happened to me and at the Taylor Swift concert um I guess there was one of the openers was like beba dooby or something I'm gonna bet you're not pronouncing that right but I don't know I don't know I'm probably not saying it right I mean My daughter here, she really helps me out. You might be saying it right, though. I've just not heard that. So after Bibadubba, or Bibadubi. Mike, we're going to come to you in a second for an official explanation of who it is.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It is Bibadubi. You're right. Congratulations. Mike. Thank you, Mike. I'm not familiar with that artist. So my daughter goes dad. So after Bibadubi's performance, Jolie looks at me and goes, dad.
Starting point is 00:06:50 If you need to go to the bathroom, now is the time. because Taylor's show's like three hours. So I was like, okay, let's go. So we go up to the bathrooms. There is a mile long line in the girls' bathroom. The guy's bathroom, there's no line. So I was like, thank you, Lord. I walk in about the same time as this, like, high school dude.
Starting point is 00:07:12 We walk through the first set of doors. We walk in the next set of doors. This bathroom is packed full of high school girls. Oh, wanting to get a quicker way to. in the bathroom. Oh yeah. They're in the men's bathroom and that high school boy was like, he said, I remember he goes, oh, heck no. Me, I'm in my 40s and I don't have that kind of negotiating power with myself anymore. It's like, I'm not going to make it three hours. Dude, there are, there are four other dads pulled up to these journals, right? And I'm looking at all these
Starting point is 00:07:49 girls and I'm looking at this situation and like, my mind's racing like, what do I do? What do I do? a dad walks away from one of the urinals. It's my turn and he kind of gives me this like, I don't know what to do. You know, what do you do kind of look? So I'm like, okay, we're doing this. We're doing this. So I pull up to the urinal to do my thing
Starting point is 00:08:12 and in the middle of the process, some girl behind me says, hey, Aaron, why don't you sing us a song? Oh, yeah, nice. And I was like, that's really, That was pretty messed up. And I literally said that. I said, girls, and they're all laughing.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I said, girls, that's messed up. That's messed up, girls. And I mean, but we had so much fun. I love going to concerts, and it's fun. That's kind of me and my daughter's thing. Do you get to go to many concerts, though, because you're on the road a lot. Not a lot. I don't get to go to a lot of concerts.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Every time I see you on TikTok, you're on the road. No, you're doing a show. Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing a lot of shows? Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, you're on the road a lot playing shows.
Starting point is 00:08:53 We always, my daughter has the bands in town app. And so I'm like, find the dates where, you know, we're going to a George Strait concert. We bought tickets this week. And it's on a day that I have off. And so we have a lot of fun. She has a long list of artists we're going to go see. And I'll be honest, I know a lot of them about as well as you know Bibadubi. I do not know Bibadubi.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That's the thing. I never even heard of Bibadubi. Like, I'm out. I'm out of cool. Yeah. I'm sometimes just like I am I she's taking me to places where I look like that dad
Starting point is 00:09:29 like I'm like let's go but just seeing her smile and sing like I whatever it takes do you feel though like when you go to these shows with your daughter like does she like any of the music that you also liked and is that does that ever hit you like it's so cool
Starting point is 00:09:49 that she likes music that I also like like older stuff Oh, yeah, like she loves the Beatles. She loves Elton John. She's, I mean, I posted a video a while back. She's in there at night. You know, I can hear her in there in the bathroom, getting ready for bed. And she is just singing Keith Whitley at the top of her lungs. So it's cool.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Like, we did this little cover album just for fun, a couple years back called Cover Girl. And I did it actually as a project with, Jolie because all Jolie was listening to was Taylor Swift. And I said, well, Taylor's great. I go, there are so many, like, you need to know the Amy Lou Harris's of the world. And so it's fun for she and I. We take a lot of drives, whether it's in my truck or the Corvette or the Jeep. We take these drives just to listen to music. And she's in control of the radio. So you never know what I'm going to be listening to. What about your son? He plays with you. I think he's good.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Dude. Well, I already have labels calling about him. And I'm like, the boy hasn't even recorded anything yet. He's so good. He's older, though. Yeah, Jake is 19. And so Jack, and then there's Jack, who's 18. Jack is too smart to be in the music industry.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Jack is already, Jack already has like 200 ounces of silver and a couple ounces of gold. Like he works by stock. Like I was showing Jack some of my most horrible investments I've ever made thinking that would show him like, hey, you win some, you lose some. And he looked at me and he goes, why would you have ever thought that that company was a good idea? And I was like, okay, well, now you actually think Pops is even probably dumber than you already did. So that backfired on me. But I'm having more fun. I'm telling you right now.
Starting point is 00:11:50 If they gave an award out for a country artist that has the most fun at their shows, I would win it because I love what I'm doing. But now I'm literally like on stage with my son and we're jamming out. I'll go over there and, you know, mess with him and undo a pearl snap or I'll go up and button the top's pearl snap. And I just love messing with him. And then I just hand him to the mic and I'm like, Pops is tired. you know, death's tired. And dude, he'll just, and they go nuts for him, and he's a great songwriter.
Starting point is 00:12:28 He's going to be dangerous. Was there a point where he was actually good enough? Did you ever let him play with you when he wasn't quite there to help him get there? And then there was a point where you realized, oh, now he can actually play with this. I don't really have to, like, prop him up anymore. Yeah, I was very protective for a while. Like, if he was singing a song, I'd have the mic. just waiting to see you.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Like if he kind of stumbled, I could jump in and sing with him. But he's been getting on stage with me since he was, I mean, five or six, because he just loves to play. And now he has my whole show memorized. And like a couple weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:13:07 my drummer, his flight got delayed. And we had sound check. So my son just jumped in there behind the drums. He knows the entire show on the drums, too. He knows the entire show on the guitar. he's he's he's he's super talented and it's fun to watch is he a better guitar player than you
Starting point is 00:13:25 oh like when he was 12 oh yeah yeah i mean but jake jake started with the beetles you know then got into like mark knopfler dire straits yeah and then i mean he just started learning all this crazy stuff and honestly you know and i'm not like the biggest john mayor fan like i have a great appreciation for his music music and I like a lot of his songs. But a lot of John's acoustic stuff is so like Chad Atkins. It's just got that country, finger style, guitar picking, and Jake learned all that stuff. So his playing is so good.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And he's hungry. He calls me, you know, he's in college. So he'll call me late at night. And I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, well, I should be studying, but I'm working on a song. And I'm like, well, just, I know your mom says he wants you to make good grades. I'm like if you could just like, you know, have good attendance and pass. But don't tell your mom I said that.
Starting point is 00:14:26 What's Amarillo like now? It's been probably two years since I've been there. Well, you know, I live, I grew up there. Are you not there? No, I've been in Abilene for a while now. It's been three years since I've been there. What's Abilene like? It's growing like crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:41 They've got like, it's supposed to like double in size over the next 10 years because like Google and has showed up and AI, some AI deals showed up. I mean, we live about, I don't know, 20 minutes south of town, kind of where the hill country starts. Buffalo Gap, Texas, it's a thriving. Is it only you guys? No, it's actually started growing, but it's, we're out in the middle of nowhere, so it's, it's pretty nice.
Starting point is 00:15:09 What about you, you got a pretty big ranch, big piece of land out there? Yeah, we've got a big ranch out there. We built a, a ranch house on the, edge of this little canyon that has a bluff behind it. And I built that place just to write songs. So we use that house for a lot of different reasons. I have riders come in. My bus driver, band guys will stay there sometimes.
Starting point is 00:15:32 So that's not your primary house? No. It's kind of like the dog house. Also, if I get kicked out of the house, I'm like not. But it's on the same property? No, it's about five or six miles away. So, but it's a really cool place. And like if someone at church, you know, needs a place to stay, I'm like, well, you can go to the ranch house.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So we do a lot of writing at the ranch and I've recorded a lot of vocals there. But I don't know, it's just kind of my, it's my happy place. And also, too, like, whenever I go out to the ranch, I will look around and I'm like, you know, I bought this with a song. Like a lot of songs. Not one, but like a lot of songs. But it always makes me go, wow, you know. People always say, you think someday you'll ever like make it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And I was like, that's an interesting, you know, that's an interesting statement because what is make it? And I've always told people the reason why I'm successful is because I made sure that I made goal, that my goals were achievable. Like if I would have started off my career saying, I want to be bigger than George Strait someday or as big. You know, that's a pretty big dream. But my goal was it would be really awesome if someday I had a career where I could write my songs, record my songs, play shows, and do well enough that I could provide for my family. And so that's, you know, I've been able to achieve that. When you talk about seeing your house going, I got that because I wrote song. Sometimes I look at my swimming pool and go, I was able to get that because I just say stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:24 That's crazy to me. I'm the same way. I'm the same way that I'm like, what in the world? It feels like it should be against the law. Because the swimming pool to me meant somebody made it. Do they even call swimming pools? Cool. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Is that weird when I say swimming pool? I call it a swimming pool. Well, do you say washing powder? What? What? Okay, never mind. Detergent. Obviously, I'm from Arkansas,
Starting point is 00:17:48 but I have things that I haven't been able to shake consciously. Yeah. So I will just say things, for example, that wasn't on purpose. I say swimming pool. And if I'm talking about doing the laundry,
Starting point is 00:17:59 I think I've been better, but it's always been like, yeah, we'll use some washing powder and we'll put... That's awesome. I'm going to start using that. No, no, it's never on purpose. But that's what they're alluding to
Starting point is 00:18:07 is at times I can't shake some of that fundamental Arkansas language. I like it, though. It's, I mean, it's like, I'm going to use that get home that I'm going to be like, babe, where the flips of washing powder? She can be like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 So, no, I'm the same way. I'll say, I'll say something. And I can't think of a word right now, but I'll say something and people will be like, what did you just, what did you just actually say? And I don't know if it's, you know, being raised in West Texas and my mom was born in West Texas vernacular. For sure. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah. Yeah. How long have been married? Gosh, 24 years. She's put up with me for 24 years. What's, what's, what, what, uh, it's hard to say like, why or like, what, what's the reason, but what do you feel like is the common thread in relationships like yours that have lasted? A good woman.
Starting point is 00:19:02 That's a patient. And, you know, I think, I think the best way I can describe it is like, I remember when I was like four or five, my mom and dad got into a knockdown. drag-out argument. And I remember mom slammed the front door and I was in bed and my bedroom
Starting point is 00:19:26 was the closed-in single-car garage that my dad when my sister was born, he turned that into my bedroom. So when mom fired up the car that night I remember the headlights like lit up my room and I was pretty upset about it. And when I'm sure my mom I'm sure mom drove down the street to her sister's house, my aunt B, I have an aunt B.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And I'm sure they had like a Diet Coke and she cooled off and she came home. And when she came home that night, she came into my room. And I was so little, but I remember this. She said, I asked her, I said, what happened with you and dad? And she said, well, we had an argument. And I was like, well, what happened? You know, like what was going on? And she said, well, I'm just going to tell you this.
Starting point is 00:20:14 She said, right now, I do not like your daddy. She said, but I love him with all my heart. And I think that's the mentality that like, you know, because that's the mentality you got to have. Because I'm not naturally like that. Like, I'm more dramatic like the sky is falling. There are times where I'm like, if it wasn't for the. kids like I just want to pack my bags and hit the road of course I'd get 10 miles down the road and be like where am I actually going you know but that's how that's how I work that's how my mind works
Starting point is 00:20:55 and you know I just think it's one of those things where you know for me in this phase of my life you know it's just you know I it's not easy I mean I just say this it's just not easy it not not not easy sometimes i'll say like impossible so you know you're really selling this yeah i mean but it's one of those things you're really making you feel like the villain and she's the greatest superhero of all time well well he was the one that was he's saying he's going to pack his back i know that's what i'm saying like he's the one that's like i gotta go i think maybe if she's here she'd be like well i was already gone i think if she was here she'd just slap him and say Aaron stop talking if your mouth shuts yeah she'd be given him a
Starting point is 00:21:42 No, it would be this look she gives me where it's like, please stop talking, where she just does the side I like, it's that one. Yeah, you don't have to say anything. You just know. It sounds like there's moments where y'all don't like each other, but you love each other. Absolutely. Yeah. But that's one of those. I think that's any relationship. Yeah. Yeah. 110%. If the true love is there. Yeah. The unconditional love. The secret, though, I mean, I don't, I don't know the secret. You know, if we're going to be married, if we make it 50-something years, bro, we still got the other side of the other side of. the mountain to go. So it's like, but I think it's just that it's just trying to try and really hard to work through the tough stuff. And man, we've had some, you know, we've had some tough stuff, you know, I mean, we, we lost a child together. And, you know, I think if we were to like probably dig deep into counseling, I do think that that probably, that was hard on she and I both. just you know there were and at that time we had like a literally a like a four-year-old a two and a half year old and like we had three little ones already so i mean i don't know it does make for good songwriting material you know and and that's life and a lot of times i try
Starting point is 00:23:03 to capture those feelings and put it into a song and i really i try to do that with a lot of music like man if i'm if i'm if i'm feeling something i try to be real about it because i you have to think there's other people out there that are going through those kind of things and i've always found music to be very uh therapeutic so even to write oh writing's writing's my favorite thing writing is it's what i live for like i wake up in the morning excited to make coffee and go sit on the back porch and write and i tell you there's like me writing right now i'm a different rider. Like, I know I'm not supposed to talk about the next record. We've got this new record horse name Texas. We're just about to do one with 26 songs here, right? Yeah. And it's going to have
Starting point is 00:23:49 40 on it when it's all said and done. But I've already finished the next record. And don't say that one's even better. You know, we're focused on this one. Can't help it. Can't help it. But the thing about it is, is that like, I don't know why, why now I feel like, my mom's always said I was like I remember saying mom am I ever going to grow sideburns and she was like baby you're just a late bloomer so I don't know if it's my songwriting has been kind of a late bloomer I'm so proud of all my past 25 years of songs but I just feel like I'm seeing things differently I don't know if it's just a combination of where I'm at in life or probably too it has a lot to do with the fact that I have two kids that are writing
Starting point is 00:24:32 and I want them to see my work ethic I want them to see how hard I work at my craft, those kind of things. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.
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Starting point is 00:29:36 or wherever you get your podcasts. Explain like I'm five what it means to be an independent artist, which you are. A lot of freedom. And that's one reason why I'm independent. Also survival. I mean, if you have a dream and you want to be a country singer and, you know, no labels in town, think you're good enough. Well, do you just give up on your dream?
Starting point is 00:30:05 And it's a much different environment than it was. I mean, even when we first met. you know, almost 10 years ago or whatever. I mean, back then, I mean, go look, go back and look at country music award shows in 2015, 16, 17. Like, it's me and about three other dudes that have buckles and cowboy hats and boots on. And back then, they called me a hat act. Back then, you know, I was Texas music and it wouldn't work outside of Texas. And, you know, and so I love now when Ella Langley has a song that right off the bat talks about my two hometowns, Amarillo and Abilene.
Starting point is 00:30:52 The first second I heard that song, I made a video and I was like, this is going to be the big song. This is going to be a number one hit. So, I mean, I don't know. It's like I think that I do take a little pride in being able to talk to a lot of independent artists to saying, hey, what's your business model? it's about running a good business making good business decisions but I also love the fact that like I'm recording I've got sessions
Starting point is 00:31:20 uh in March we're recording some fun little side projects um I'm recording again in May I just love the fact that I don't have to ask some record label like is it okay if I do this is it okay you know if I get excited about the music that's what matters so sounds like the good is you as a creative can do the creative thing
Starting point is 00:31:41 that you want to do. It sounds like the difficult thing is especially early is nobody's funding it. You're having to fund everything yourself. You're having to find all the money to make all the things happen. Yeah, that's like we are, we've got this five-year plan and this new album, Horse Name Texas, is day one. And we're going to be going to radio over the next five years. Well, you're here now. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:32:06 When you're literally here now. Day one. Okay, I'm just making sure. This is day one. Making sure you know where you are. We're not at Chick-fil-A. We're here. This is day one.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Okay. I was like day one of my five-year plan, we must be on the Bobby Bones show. There are 26 songs on this record. It's a lot of songs. Did you not part with some of them? Did you want, why that? I'm just always when it's an odd number like 26. If it were 11 or 12, I get it standard.
Starting point is 00:32:36 If it were 40 and you're like, it's a double album. But 26 is kind of an odd number of songs. Why? Well, we had them recorded. They're all songs I'm proud of. And those are all songs that I wrote during that phase. What would you call that phase? What was that season called?
Starting point is 00:32:55 Well, the last four years, a lot of ups and downs. I had two vocal cord surgeries, had a lot of time off. And for me, it's like I wrote all these songs together. And, you know, it's, for me, I don't want to sit here and be like, I'm thankful I've had this long career I've done enough. For me, I want to do more than I've ever done in the next five years. And so I love those songs. Those songs are finished.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Those songs need to go out. I'm passionate about them right now. But I'm already having a hard time not wanting to push this next record I've already finished. And Greg is over there like, stop talking about the next record. We got 26 songs here of this record that's out now. It's my art. And it's like it's it's one of those things. It's almost like talking about your kids.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Like I found myself, especially when they were little and baseball and like we go in somewhere. And next thing you know, I'm like, I talked about my kids the whole time and did not talk about the record. But it's just you get you get excited about the music. And so, but yeah, horse name Texas, it's a story about my career. It's where I've been, where I'm at. and where I want to go. And why I do it. Like the second verse says,
Starting point is 00:34:15 came up short, been bucked off, had my heart stomped in the dirt, but I got back up, got back on time and time again. And after all these years I've learned, a winner's just a loser who keeps on losing till the day they finally win.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And that's just the story of, it's a lot like your story. Failing until you don't. It's one of my books. Absolutely. I should have made you a co-writer on there. Or you just could have said, hey, buy it up his book.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Fail until you don't on Amazon. Hey, what camera do I look at? Pick one. Go that one right there. Aaron Watson here. By Bobby's new book, Phil. Until you don't. It's been out of a few years.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's a old book. Actually inspired me to write this whole new album, Horse Name Texas, and it will change your life. Where's my camera? Right there. Okay. Hey, it's Bobby here. I wrote that book, Fall Until You Don't, inspired by the record, Horse Name Texas from Aaron Watson.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It came out years later, but I really felt it in my heart what it was going to say. So please check out Horse. name Texas now. That's my dog back and forth. That's my dog. We both did that. It's like you're a loser till you're not. Yeah. It's fell until you don't. It's like felon until you don't. It's like felon until you don't.
Starting point is 00:35:22 It's where we're talking about horse name loser. There's no other way to say it. No, horse name Texas. But it's also just one of those things like, like I love baseball. I love baseball. Hall of Fame hitter fell 70% of the time. So what do you, it's like I tell my boys, you went over four. Were you going to cry about it? Or are we going to work on the next?
Starting point is 00:35:41 game. Like, what are you going to do? I mean, if you have you have to understand that's just part of the process. And also, why do you do it? Like, if I'm doing this to have big hits and number one records and all
Starting point is 00:35:57 that stuff, win awards, like, if that's the reason I'm doing this, I'm going to be disappointed at the end of the day. But, like, the bridge says something like, if I choke or wind up broke, God knows I do it all over again
Starting point is 00:36:13 because if I write one song that saved a life, wouldn't that be worth it in the end? And that's why you do what you do. I get up on that stage. Those people have paid their hard-earned dollar to come see a show. And my job is real simple
Starting point is 00:36:26 just to give them a good time. And that's what I do every night. We played a show in Knoxville a couple weeks ago. Not going to lie when you see that you only pre-sold 8% of the tickets
Starting point is 00:36:42 you feel that like ugh feeling inside but at some point you suck it up you go out there and you give them the best you got and then you know the next night is a sellout and that's easy but it's you know I don't know
Starting point is 00:36:58 it's I'm just in a really good place with my music right now and it's exciting and like I said Jake my boy is watching me man he's watching me and so I haven't I've got a lot to teach him. And also, too, I'm not going to, I am fixing to have some big moments because his old man's
Starting point is 00:37:20 not going to go down without a fight. I'm not going to just start opening up for him out of nowhere. Like he's got, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's like getting out there and playing basketball with them. They're better than me. And I know that I think I may have pulled something and pulled something right here. Can't let them show, I can't let them see that, you know. And I box them out.
Starting point is 00:37:40 a little harder, get a little more aggressive, fight dirty. You can't let those boys beat you. You got to, the old man. It's the old man thing. I feel like you think you're dying, dude. You're scared me. You're like, I got five years and I'm out of here. Just say to me that you're not dying. I'm not dying. Okay, good. That's all I want to hear. Here's a deal. Okay, here's the deal. No, but he's acting like, I got five years and then they're going to spread my ashes at sea. Here's a deal. I'll come back
Starting point is 00:38:02 in in five years and be like, okay, that five year plan didn't work. But this next five year plan, And this next five year, this is the one. That's the one where you're opening for your son. That's the one where I'm opening for Jake. I've got so much exposure. Just really glad we had that kid. Tell me about Pontiac.
Starting point is 00:38:20 What I think is interesting, and I love it. You wrote the song by yourself. Yeah. So is that one of those? You just grab a guitar at home, and you really didn't have it set it. Can I do my romantic version of you writing this song? And you tell me how wrong I was.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Whenever people write songs by themselves, I feel like there's just some sort of inspiration that happens and they just pick up a guitar and it wasn't in the calendar for a right because they're not writing with somebody and they're like I have this idea let me see how and maybe you're even coming up with something for a right that you have coming up in the future and you're like oh man this is just kind of falling out of me and the next thing you know you're like I don't think I need anybody this exactly how I want to say it anybody else putting it on it would change how I'd say it so I think I'm going to record this as a work tape and then eventually you fall in love with it so much you're like I'm going to record this as a song and then it becomes a single that's the romantic version of my head that's very close um my whole life when there's something going on in my world, like I will call my mom. And I remember I was like, so mom, tell me, like, dad, if he did this and it upset you, what would, like, what do I do? And so that's where that song came from. That came from me, I don't know, doing something stupid. upset in my wife, something's going on, and me just going to my mom and saying, hey, now,
Starting point is 00:39:46 there are a few, you know, they say country music is like three, three chords in the truth. So that song has like five chords. So, and my mom drove a Monte Carlo. An occasional lie. Got it, got it, got it. Five chords and an occasional lie. I like it, though. Five chords and a fib.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Okay, fair enough. You know, and I've never heard my mom. mom cuss. And I actually called and my mom she's such a wonderful lady and she's so straight lace. Like I had to take down an Instagram post two nights ago
Starting point is 00:40:19 because my mom didn't like it. And it annoyed me so much. But that mama's boy inside of me went fine. Well what did you do? Well I did an interview with my buddy
Starting point is 00:40:35 and he asked me what was the weirdest thing that's ever happened to me at my show. Oh, no. And I said, well, it's happened several times, but like having a lady breastfeeding her baby right in front of me, I was like, there was the cutest little baby boy you ever saw. And he's got on little headphones, and he's breastfeeding right there as I'm singing honky tonk songs. I was like, and the whole thing is I'm like, stare at the woman in her eyes, but I know something
Starting point is 00:41:02 is going on down there, right? So we talked about it. So my wife, when she was breastfeeding, it's a brand called Haida Hooter. It's actually, that's what the, it's just something that a woman will drape over herself. And so we jokingly were like, we need to get some Aaron Watson, how to hooters at the merchandise booth. So I made a funny post about it. And my mom literally commented on my post. Like, I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I don't think this is appropriate. And I was like, oh, I was like, Mom. I was like, Mom, I'm just kidding. She goes, I just don't, she was, I just don't think that's funny. She was, I just don't like that. And she was like, I don't think, and I was like, fine. And whatever her mom control that she has over me, I just went up to the little three dots at the top and delete and sorry. So no hide a hooter merch coming.
Starting point is 00:41:56 No hide a hooter merch is coming. So the song is about your mom. Yeah. It's about leaning on her. you know, you know, what, how did, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, how long have you been married? Like, what's, how did you get through that? Or how, how have you gotten this far? Like, what's the secret? It's me leaning on my mom, like, you know, and I think a lot about my, my, my granddad, um, my granddad was a great guy, but apparently he had a phase of his life where he was drinking, making a lot of, making a lot of, bad decisions and I think about my sweet grandmother that just somehow kept that family together and I mean I think without a doubt you have to give credit to my grandmother for keeping that thing together so it's it's talking to mom about like what did dad do how did you do it how did you
Starting point is 00:42:56 do it and so that's just kind of a special thing when you can take a memory a moment in your life and just kind of it's like a it's like a snapshot of that moment in a song so that one's also a song is fun to play live it also got added by a ton of radio stations
Starting point is 00:43:14 your five-year plan is working it's working yeah congratulations we're gonna play it we're gonna play here thank you brother yeah it's good to see you a horse name Texas is out
Starting point is 00:43:23 26 songs you're proud of it say yes say yes don't save that a second thing you're writing now I think it's fair to say too since we've talked a lot about my wife and how she's been putting up with me for a long time. I think it's, we need to be honest
Starting point is 00:43:38 that everyone needs to know that all the proceeds from the horse name Texas album goes straight into her purse. Into the white. It's the white foundation. Yes, that's good. I get nothing. That's good. I like that.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Good to see you again, man. Dude, it's great to see you guys. Proud of y'all and I love your new place. It's really cool. Thanks. Thank you. Yeah, this is radio. Day one, radio. They won. I was confusedly for a minute.
Starting point is 00:44:02 All downhill from here. All downhill from here. Aaron Watson Music is Instagram. Is that also your TikTok? I follow you on TikTok so I don't know what it is. Yeah, it's the same thing. I told you this last time. Your TikToks are great.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Thanks, brother. Do you ever get annoyed when they don't hit and you think it's really funny? Or do you even look back to see if they hit? I think of it as I'm just throwing darts. Because I've posted stuff that I thought was stupid. Like, I'll give you a quick example. I was holding this lady's baby. the rodeo in Vegas and I'm holding this little boy and his pacifier pops out of his mouth and
Starting point is 00:44:36 goes down into this crevice and I reached down to get the pacifier and when I reached when I when I found it there's literally a beer a full beer next to it so I pulled out a beer and a pacifier and I was like yes and the mom videoed that and I was like oh it's kind of funny so I posted it and the thing had like 30 million views. And I'm like, what? And then I'll post something good. And it's like 200 views. And I'm like, oh, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Anyways, I just, I think about throwing darts. Maybe one will hit. I don't think much of it. But I want to be consistent with, I got some, I got some good ones coming up this next week. In the next five years? He started working on him. He's like, the ones I've got today.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'll take off. I was like, good. Wait until you see the ones that are coming down in a few weeks. Yes. You know, but you do good too, man. Hey, you're one yesterday. Oh, yeah. Poppin.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Look. It's popping, bro. Let's go. I'm calloused at this point with negative feedback. It doesn't bother me anymore. I've just had so much of it. I've got to grow with it. Do you know what I say to people?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Like, if somebody says something awful to me, I have two responses. It just shuts them down. Either I say, you're not wrong, or I'll say you're not my mom. and I just posted on there. And it's like, you have, they have nowhere to go. If you agree with them,
Starting point is 00:46:01 they have nowhere to go. That just stops them dead in your track and then like, just telling someone you're not my mom just says it all. You're not my mom.
Starting point is 00:46:10 You can't, only my mom can make me take down a post. And then say, listen to Pontiac streaming now. Listen to Pontiac streaming now. You guys, check out the record. It is that.
Starting point is 00:46:22 It's a horse name Texas, 26 songs, all written by Aaron a lot by himself with other co-writers that are excellent but all written by Aaron and yeah it's good to see you man it's good to see you too buddy great great appearance as always and what also we talked a lot about now but Aaron and I did like way over an hour a few months ago just kind of like about his life and how he came up I encourage you to go check that out on the Bobbycast because I learned a lot about you as a person there this here is very much like hey
Starting point is 00:46:49 what's up now what tells us some funny stuff that was a lot of fun thanks again for having me and we did it nude what people didn't know yeah because we really want to wanted to like get back to the core of humans. Yeah, we wanted it, we wanted. I had a Bolo on. But other than that, we were good. The Bolo, that was a nice. It was. It kept me from getting distracted. Yeah, but I didn't wear it on my neck just for everybody. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I said, yeah, but the Bolo was just enough to let me relax. Yeah. And it was shaped like his head. It was a bowl of his head with a Bolo of his head with a great merch idea. Oh, your head. A Bolo. A Bolo. People would buy that. People would literally buy that. I mean, only do a hundred
Starting point is 00:47:25 and see how they sell. What about like an AW? No, no, no, do his face. But the high cowboy hat. Okay. Yeah, do it. Sorry. I agree.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I think that would be awesome. Okay. All right, there he is. Aaron Watson. The album is out. Go listen to a horse name Texas. And the horse name Texas tour continues, and it continues all the way up until month 10,
Starting point is 00:47:45 which is, hold on, a nine September. I know that. Like, terrible thing that happened to us, but it's how I remember nine. Same. October. October. Until October.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Let's go. Aaron Watson. Clap in your hand for Aaron Watson. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.
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