The Bobby Bones Show - FRI PT 2: Amy Attempts 31 Three Pointers In One Hour Challenge + Ryan Coogler (Black Panther And Creed Director) +  Top 5 Cult Leaders

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Bobby started with his dental issues and fear that his teeth have shifted. He is freaked out after reading a story of how a common dental habit can kill you. We get a full recap of Amy’s 31 3-pointers basketball challenge and the injury she is now battling. Amy is now trying to convince us to do more things like this to get us to bond.Bobby talked to director/writer Ryan Coogler. He wrote and directed movies like Black Panther and Creed. He talked about his new movie Sinners with Michael B. Jordan, spoiler rules and how he manages working with a big group of people and being a good leader. We talked to a Listener who offered to give Raymundo floor tickets to a Memphis Grizzlies playoff game.  We investigated her offer. Bobby shared a list of the Top 5 Cult Leaders and their crimes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I click it because, I mean, I keep floss here. My teeth have shifted, though, every one of them. There's been a full on shift. Hmm. Is that from your grinding? Possibly, but I mean, every time I eat, all my teeth are in a different place where I have to floss every time now. I only had like two little gaps before. No, every time.

It's so annoying. So I click on anything now. It's like, Dennis says this. Well, this dental expert says that scraping your tongue. can actually kill you. Wait, what? I just scraped mine this morning. Oh, no.

How you feeling? Somebody get her pulse. She's gone. What many don't understand, according to Dr. Kelsey Loveland, is that a tongue scraper can create small invisible cuts in tongue tissue, allowing bacteria direct access to the bloodstream. I guess Kelsey's a dude in case I said it was her. Oh, I thought it was a girl.

Yeah, me too. For someone with a heart valve issue, this could potentially lead to endocarditis, which has a mortality rate between 15 to 30%. Patients with heart valve issue should be particularly cautious about any oral care tools that introduce bacteria into the bloodstream.

These tools post similar risk and then he goes through all of it. So if you don't have whatever the valve is, it still could create cuts that bacteria could get in that can make you sick and more so. But if you have a vulnerability, it's even worse.

And think about that, it doesn't even have to be the tongue, I guess, if you were scraping any part of your body. Or I'm thinking like if you floss and bleed, If you know sometimes when you floss, you bleed. Difference is that would you scrape your tongue and there's tissue? I guess if you eat, it's right on your tongue. And if you do that to your gut, there's not really.

Okay. So I was just getting a little overwhelmed there because they say if you don't flaws, that causes heart disease. So I'm like, okay. These wellness warriors may end up aggressively scraping away food debris, but also eroding their oral health. That's cool. I'm a wellness warrior.

That's you. That's what I hear from that. And all I need to start doing is scrape gently. Yeah, I don't know that that directly affects us, but it is good to know. You never know if you have a heart valve issue. Also, if you're just going to town on your tongue, you're probably cutting it up. I mean, you could actually get sick from it and maybe not die. But anytime you make a little cut, that's a pathway into the blood.

You scrape your tongue? I have, sort of. So I floss every day. And so I'll scrape my tongue at the beginning with floss. Can I make it really long? And there's a part of it where I go, eh. And then that piece is dead, and I go to the next part. Do you use the floss to scrape?

Yes, at the beginning. Like this, watch. Who taught you that? Nobody taught me. It's probably wrong. Oh, okay. I just had never heard of that. I'm not like Beethoven.

Who taught you this? Self taught. You know, I had a natural instinct. So like this, I'll do this. No, yeah. Okay. Oh. Is that really doing anything, do you think?

Why would it not do anything? I don't know. I just feel like you're just stirring it up a little bit. You don't think this is. I know, I feel like you're... All you have to flex your tongue and you drag it across and you go to scrape her.

It's the same thing. I'm shocked you guys scrape your tongue. I never heard of this. So I'll do it at the beginning and then I keep extra long floss and then I... And here and I go, I floss so freaking much though now

because my teeth have shifted, it's annoying. I'm not even asking for like a ribbon. I hate it. Every time. So, and you're a string flosser and not a pick flosser? I am a both.

I pick floss during the day. I string floss in the morning and at night. This might be a time marches on, but... I'm very irritated that my favorite floss got discontinued. Time marches on, but I'm anxious to hear what you have to say. Well, I've been looking for it everywhere because normally I could just find it. Any store, they have it. It's gentle glide.

Isn't that something else? No. Like a tampon? No. Oh, like a lubricant? Yeah, yeah. No. Well, I don't know, but it's... I wouldn't Google that. I think it's called like glide, easy glide.

Now, Eddie. Amy thinks. Oh, no. Go ahead. Okay, whatever. It was a green little container, and it was so easy to find, and I couldn't find it anywhere. In fact, I even thought I was buying it, but then I tried it out, and it was totally different on my teeth, and I'm like, what the heck? So then I Google why I can't find it anywhere, and they had to take it off the shelves and discontinue it because whatever it was making it awesome and gentle to glide with is toxic.

Classic. Whoa. There is Playtex gentle glide. Okay. That's a tampon? Yeah, it's tampon. Okay, but that's not what I was putting in my teeth. You make it work.

I've put tampons on my nose. Yeah. Oh, to stop the bleeding? Because I get chronic nosebleeds, and it's the only thing around. Probably. I've done it before. I think I saw Ben Quillard do it once at a concert at ACL, and then I was like, oh, that works, so I'll do that as well. You play the whole show with it hanging out.

You can't do one with wings. That's a pad. Oh, yeah, yeah. You could, like, tape that to your face, I guess. Those are very different. Yeah. And I would imagine the size of your nostril you have to do, like, light. Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaking of Warriors, Amy was a warrior yesterday, we go out and we go to a city court down the road and she has 60 minutes to make 31 three-pointers. And I did not think she could do it. I don't think any of us, by listening to the tape, thought she would hit 31. That meant every two minutes. Same. I didn't think I was going to make it. When she started firing them up, though, and she wasn't making them at first that I saw warming up,

but I knew she was on because her form was great. she was close every time. I was like, oh, yeah. So then it was, I can root against her because I said I'd give $1,000 to charity, or I can just have fun because she's going to hit it. And she did. She's chunking them.

And it was good. I mean, even the ones you missed were so close that it was just a matter of time. Had you not walked around and had fun toward the end, I think you had made it even quicker. But I will say, it was awesome. You crushed it. Thanks.

You crushed it. It was awesome. It was fun. I'm very, very, very. sore today. Oh, you are? Yeah. I think any of us would have been? My arms are firing them off. Like, just very, like everything hurts from my shoulders down my arm, my, um, my forearm, my wrists. Well, you also got hurt after. Oh, and the game of pickup ball. Yeah. And he's like, my calf. So how's that though? That's tender. That could be injury, not soreness, though. Yeah, that's definitely

tender. And I, I am going out of town this weekend. I knew I was going to do a lot of walking around. So I was like, I got a tap out because if I ruin my chance to walk around Charleston and like see things and have a good time because of a game of pickup ball, I'm going to be matched. Well, I think, yeah, similar thought. One, I took off my necklace, too. I didn't really play in the paint. I didn't want to tear anything. I had it. Yeah, but it was fun to see you have fun. It was awesome. It was awesome. Like you were having fun out there. Yes, I had a terrible headache. The night before I text, I'm like, I am kind of sick. I, because I didn't do as much work the night before on notes. And I'm like, I'm not feeling good, so I'll just do it all the morning. It's not a terrible headache. But it was fun.

My goal was for nobody to tear anything. And Scuba was playing hard. Hard. And shout out to Scuba because he was playing hard as crap. But I was like, you know what? I'm not going to get injured. Shout to Abby, who is way more of an athlete. Wow.

And I think anybody gave her credit for as a basketball player. Abby, let's go. It was awesome. Thank you. That's fun. And Abby got no warm up time. Amy goes down. So Abby's off the bench.

Here she comes, six man, jumps in. Well, fourth man, but six man. Yeah, yeah. And she made a shot, too, like a nice shot on the side. Let's go. It was awesome. The making the shot, who cares? You can just tell if somebody is played by when they miss or when they get the ball.

It was awesome. Thanks. Played in high school. That was a... Shout out. Shout out. That was a lot of fun. Amy crushed.

I posted on my Instagram the picture of us holding the thing and the receipt for the donation. Oh, nice. I tagged you in it just now. Mr. Bobby Bones. So I did donate $1,000 to the orphanage where Amy's kids are from. Not a good job, I bet it. When you lose it, you shouldn't get a good job.

I'm not buying breakfast. That was Amy if she lost. Just making sure. I don't know if you wanted to buy breakfast for us too. That was one of those double rims though, like Mount Pine put up and we had a court for a little bit. It's one, so you don't steal them. But two, they last longer if you dunk on them.

And it's harder because it's not as soft. So when you make, when you make, If you noticed, there weren't a lot of ones that rimmed in. They were straight through. Yeah. Because if it hits the rim, those double rims, they're harder to have any sort of softness to them. Yeah. It's harder to have softness.

You had a lot of numb-bought nets, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I had a lot of... What? None by netts. I had a lot of swirlies. Isn't that what they said? Oh, nothing but net. Yeah, not about.

Not about. But also the kind that swirled the thing and pop out, I had a lot of those. Rims tough. Double rim's tough. It was awesome. So you can look at the pictures. The live stream is up on our YouTube page. But I brought my personal crew out yesterday and we're editing a cool video of like the whole thing.

Oh. You can show your kids. Like a highlight. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like when we do too much access, that kind of stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh. It's like my own. Yes. Like Eddie said, what is that? My own highlight for real. Yeah. That's what that is.

Game tape or. You can call it whatever you want. You're the winner. No, I want to know what it's really called. Nothing. The content? I don't understand. It's a video.

When an athlete puts together. Like a mixed tape, except it's not, you're mixing up different stuff. I would just say it is a compilation of yesterday's victory. Okay. You're thinking about like when a high school kid tries to put a tape together for recruit? Yeah, like my boyfriend's daughter. Sizzle reel. My boyfriend's daughter just made her own video for colleges and she did this whole thing where it has all of her games.

And then it's out on the field so you can like barely see her, she plays lacrosse. And like, but she did this, that circle thing that follows her around. For recruits? Yeah. A highlight reel. Is that what it's called? Sure. Okay.

For college. Sure. There's really not a specific name for someone that goes on a city court that's not trying to be recruited by a college to make money for charity. But it will be a compilation of your greatest hits from yesterday. Okay, perfect. I love that it's going to be the greatest hits. Also, can we point out, did everybody have a good time at an outing? Who cares what it was?

We were all away from the studio together having an outing. I hear you. Did we have fun? I had a good time because it was sports and I was gambling. Okay. Yeah, that's fun. That made it fun. Then maybe some of our quarterly activities.

We go to the horse races. We do sports and have fun. Like, I'm willing to, it's not even compromise. Like, I will stretch. Like, I can, you know, there's compromising and there's stretching. Like, I want to meet y'all where you are. Like, I will stretch to you for bonding. We did that yesterday to do a little test on if.

On bonding? No, not on bonding. On if the streams would, if the numbers would increase. Like, we're streaming this live, but would the stream increase on a live promoted event? And it did. It was rather large, considering we didn't promote it except for day of in the 8 o'clock hour on. So, yeah, I'm sure we will find, based on the success of the stream, I'm sure we'll find more ways to do that. I'm just going to be out a lot of money. I mean, the bonding was fun. See? You know, like, Amy's kind of right.

It was fun to be out of the studio all together. I don't get to hang out with Ray, really, because he's in the glass room. You can. But, like, after the show, like, he goes and does stuff. I do my stuff or whatever. I want to see each other. But we're out there on the basketball court. Scoop is out there.

It's kind of fun. Here's the thing. We left at our time to start with 11. So we left at, like, 1040. Most of the time at that time of the day, we're still working. Right. We're doing countdown. we're doing, podcasts, we're doing, whatever we're doing.

For us to make that happen another day, for the most part, we'll have to do it like 2 or 3 p.m. And no, nobody want to do that. No, but do you think we could find quarterly is probably a little much. I think we can do it more than that as long as we're doing it. More than quarterly? I think we can do events, live streaming. You call it live streaming, I'll call it bonding. Fair enough.

You do both. You call it personal, I call it business. Perfect. All we have to do for you to get on board with stuff sometimes is turn personal things into business. That's what I do them all life. Yeah. As long as it's efficient.

and we're building great. Okay. And so should we stream with the bar? Oh my gosh, y'all, if we did like a whole therapy bonding thing and streamed it, are you kidding me? It's all. No, no.

What? People have to want to watch it. Like people wanted to watch you shoot that. People don't want to watch us sit around. Okay, but not therapy is probably the wrong word. But you know how they bring somebody in sometimes to kind of work through problems? That was what we have the show.

If we, no, okay, you're not. Let me workshop how to turn this into war. work and then I'll get back to you. All right. Work how we can build our YouTube page and let me know. Exactly. I will. Morgan is asked to be freed by what time today? 11.30?

Oh, no, 11 a.m. There's an Easter egg hunt that's about to happen in our building. Yeah, a lady in the bathroom just asked me if I was participating and I knew nothing about it. Go stream that. Wait, what is it? It's a company-wide Easter egg hunt. But what do you win? $500 gift cards at diamond places.

Where are the eggs? I didn't know that. I just wanted to go through eggs. There's $100 visa gift cards. What? Oh, in the built. So it's not out in the field. No, it's just out here.

And anybody can do it? Yeah, all of us can. There's going to be a fist fight. Yeah. But you have to be free by 11? Yeah, it's at 11. But we can come back. It's just, it's happening at 11.

So it's about 10 now. Well, I have a flight later. What time's your flight? Not until 2, but that means I've got to get to airport at 1. We're familiar with the rules. Yeah, we know. We know what the rules are the American flights. We got to pre-check.

We got you. Amy's like, then it takes 20 minutes to drive there. Yeah, we're all there. And you got to park. And you got to park. Probably But could you Stream your search of it

On the YouTube page? Are you not going to hunt? No I'll see here Morgan, would you like to do? Bobby, we'll keep working Would you like to know where some of the eggs are That have the big prizes?

Oh, I've already been scoping out No, no, I've already looked in the eggs What, Amy? I said, I see stuff here You and I will keep working Yes, it'd be fun to do I can't just go Okay, Easter egg time

So can we send Morgan and whatever she gets, we just all split. No. That's fun. I like that. She is a representative of the show. No. Is there a way?

And I'm sure there is. It's not for today, but we need to figure out how to get a POV head cam. You know how my glasses have the meta and I can record? Now it's upload, but like a head cam stream. Yeah. And I'm sure to have to be a blue to. And Mike, can I put that on your plate to figure out in the next week or so? Buy one?

No, dude, still. one from... I would imagine there's like a GoPro. No, I would buy one. I would want to buy one. How much do you want to spend? Well, I don't know.

We'll talk about this off the air. But it's like, because if I bought one, I'd use it for me. But if it's like 500 bucks or less, here's the weird thing. The company doesn't want to spend money on anything, and I get it. But sometimes I can convince them for technology reasons. Like the prompter we have, they paid for that even though I was like, I will buy it. They're like, no, no, no, we'll buy this one, but it was like $400. bucks. So if we find a couple, let's just see if they exist and they're easy to use and charge

and not break. Because we can play basketball with it? You know, stuff like that. But can we use it to stream on our channel? I mean, I know they have them with GoPro. I just don't know the streaming part. That's what I'm going to look into it. You can't stream on the meta glasses? No, not yet. Is that an old shirt? Yes. Awesome, right? My favorite. Yeah. Can you just pop into our V-Mix like we used to do back in the day and then that goes into there, which thing goes into the stream? I don't know. That's what's what's saying for them. I just heard somebody speak like Mandarin. So I'm going to let you guys talk about it afterward. It could be done, is my, basically what I'm saying.

But it wouldn't need to go through the computer. It needs to go through YouTube. You have to go through anything we do. It would just make it independent of what it is like yesterday. I mean, that works too. Yeah, that's a 2025, dude. We can do a lot of things. Hey, cool, man.

Let me know. All right. When Amy gets me that report on bonding, you give me that report on what we can do. A lot of work, guys. Amy is flying out today. By the way, congratulations. That was awesome, Amy. Congratulations, Amy.

Yeah, and thank you for the donation. You did the work, girl. Well, yeah. It's just cool. Amy is going on her birthday trip. She's going to Charleston, South Carolina, and Ray Mundo, who is Mr. Travel, gave you somebody to talk with.

He did. Let me pull up Ray's Rex. Because that's like your place, right? Right, right? Yeah, my wife loves it there. We do. We have friends there. I met a listener, and we hang out with her and we go there.

I've been showing a good time when I go to Charleston. I just wanted Amy to kind of get that same good time. Yeah, because I have never been. And so that's why this was my birthday president. and part of I'm trying to just get outside my bubble more, travel a little bit. So going to Charleston. And Ray recommended, you know, I was like, where do we go? Like, where do we go eat?

He sent me no food places, all bars. I mean, I guess the bars have food, but they're all bars. For sure, uptown social, spots like that. He did send me a listener's phone number. He called her a, quote, connector because she knows everyone in town and he said she's awesome. Okay. And then he told me to go, well, he just mentioned it, Republic. He goes, drink, take picks of the servers and bartenders, because they're all from the TV show Southern Hospitality.

And he said he knows a door guy there that can get me a VIP table. Joe Bradley. Is that why you go there because of that show? Like the original reason that you went to Charleston is because you saw it on that show? Yeah. What's the show? Well, there's two of them. It's Southern Charm and now there's Southern Hospitality.

That's why I didn't know it. Is it based off Southern Charm? Kind of. Different people. Is it a same company? One's about rich people that don't work. The other one's people that work at the bar that are trying. trying to get rich.

But like based off that show, are there any crossovers? The manager, Leva, is in Southern Charm, and then she's the manager at Southern Hospital. So they're connected, the shows. Well, get drunk, man. There's only one thing to do in Charleston.

I mean, sounds like it. Don't eat. You just drink the whole time. I know. I can't hang, like, Ray. But I'm telling you, though, keep that King Street to a couple hours. It can be trouble. Is that the shopping place?

That's where all the bars are. There's also shops, yes. I mean, Ray was telling, he was out there for like 20 minutes going over. And I was like, Ray, she's only going to be there 48 hours. He's like, no, but you got to go here? He can't get all that in 48 hours. I'm there less than 48 hours. And don't get it twisted.

Amy says, like, I can't hang like Ray. Ray goes to bed like a four. True. Don't get a twisted too. She's got to be the airport an hour early for a flight in case you guys don't know how. It works. Yeah, what the FAA recommend. Well, I did have to bring my passport because my license is expired and I don't have my real

ID yet. So I got nervous that they weren't going to let me fly. And so I got my passport with me, so I should be good. My prediction is the real ID gets punted again. I've heard that from nothing. That would be awesome. My prediction is not enough people are going to have it, which is going to mean if they also don't have a passport and they don't have it,

they can't fly. You think airlines are going to go for that? No chance. Yeah, no. Probably not. But I also have a question about my ID being expired and taking my passport. So if we do go to want to raise bars, do I have to show my passport to order a drink?

I would think so, yeah. Not to order a drink to get in, because once you're in, in most places, right? I guess it depends on how they do it. Okay, fine. Some bars don't let you in unless you're 21, but a restaurant. A restaurant, if my server is like, I need to see your ID. I'm going to have to be like, here's my passport. Yes, and here are all the stamps of the places that I've been.

Yeah. All my stamps are Haiti, Haiti, Haiti. Hey, I got a message from somebody that said they went 30 minutes out of town, Eddie and got their passport in like four days. I know you're waiting until July. That's legit. I know. I got a message too that said where exactly.

I would do it now in case that real ID crap does happen. because you don't have that either. Right. So I'd do your passport stuff. And according to Morgan, it takes like what, how many weeks? Morgan, you get your real ID even once you get it done? It took me over six weeks for my real ID to come in. There's no chance it ends up being when they say it's going to be.

But if they keep punning, though, like when does it actually like turn over? It has been in the works for like five years already. COVID said it back though, to be fair. It was before COVID. I don't know, dude. I just don't. I hope they do. I don't think airlines are, you know how much business they're going to lose?

Yeah. Tons. From people that don't have passports and also people that didn't get their and if I hadn't had a passport for like work stuff that had to get I've used it a bunch since then I don't have a real idea I wouldn't be able to go anywhere all right there's that I do want to go to the interview now with Ryan coogler it was super cool because Ryan coogler is top of his game right now he wrote Black Panther and directed it he wrote creed and directed it directed all the creeds too after that and then wrote the movie sinners and directed it which is out today which I watched and it was good and Michael B Jordan's in it and he plays twins

So let's play the interview now that we had with Ryan Coogler. Here we go. On the Bobby Bones Show now. Ryan, Hey, Ryan, first, I saw the movie. I want to ask this very primitive horror movie question first because I like the movie a lot. I don't like horror movies. I've always avoided horror movies because I get nightmares.

As a kid, I tried to read Twilight, got nightmares. So I stopped a long time ago, right? I'm not even playing. Like, I get nightmares for everything. So when it said horror, I was like, oh, man, I don't know if I can do this. But so my very primitive movie question is, as a writer and director, I don't feel like this is the horror I think of from like the 80s and the 90s. Like how have horror movies changed since then because this didn't feel like that? Yeah, I mean, look, horror is a genre.

You know, like, and you are a musicologist yourself, bro, and you know that genre is kind of shifting and change. and it's really, you know, it's really like a set of expectations that's placed on, on a, you know, on a work of art. You know what I'm saying? Because our movie has vampires in it, it gets violent and scary at certain parts of it. You know, we can call it a horror movie, you know what I'm saying? But it also has a lot of other things in it as well, you know, like it's got a lot of music and it. It's got romance. It's got, um, uh, you know, it's got, um, uh, it's got it.

You know, it's got action. It's got, it's got, you know, all of these other things. But I think that once you stick a vampire in something, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it's going to get the horror. It's going to get the horror claims. But, you know, the 80s and 90s, man, a lot of those horror movies are just completely unapologetic, man. You know, your slasher movie, your nightmare on Elm Street, you know, your Carpenter films,

your West Craven films, you know. This isn't that, though, it's inspired by that. You know, but I guess that's the best way of describing. I mean, it's the same way that, like, rock music has changed or blues music has changed. A blues song in 2025 is not going to sound like a blues song sounded in 1965. You know what I'm saying? It's going to have elements of other genres, you know, melded into it, whether it's the mixing style or the use of auto tune or distortion or any of those things, right?

You know, horror and genres in filmmaking is no different. Another clueless question. Now, back in the day, he used to watch Patty Duke show on Nick at night because it was on black and white and, you know, they look alike, the talk alike at a time. And I was like, how do they get twins to do that? And that was way back in the day. And so this, you got twins.

You got Michael B. Jordan playing a set of twins. Now, is there like a stand-in that kind of looks like him from the back doing any of that? Or is it all digital? No, no, it's actually like, it's actually simpler than that, man. It's usually all Mike. you know, like, like, I would say 90 to 95% of the shots, you know, we just shot it twice, you know, with Mike playing both roles.

Now, when he's playing, when he's acting, we have a twin double, a guy named Percy Bill, who's an actor, same build as Mike, same complexion, who Mike acts across. So when Mike's looking at the other character, he has somebody there who can give him his lines back, you know, but then we use a piece of equipment called a text. Techno Dolly, where we then shoot the scene another time with all of the camera movements and all of that. Mike goes and switches places with Parsie. And now he can be on camera as the other twin. And we use a stitching technology to put both shots together.

There are some shots where Mike's performance is projected onto Parsley's body. You know, that might be a scene where the twins are fighting each other or a scene where you're looking at maybe the back of Mike's head. but those shots are few and far in between in the movie. Do you ever see one where you see a little too much of not Mike's face? And you're like, man, he nailed it, but we got to like, we got to crop the shot more because we're seeing the other guy's face. It would happen sometimes. But usually we used a Halo rig that would, that Mike would film,

it would film Mike from basically every angle with a, with a digital camera. It was a technology that was developed for this movie. And then in all those cases, we would then project Mike's performance, you know, onto Percy's body. The music was spectacular. How did you find Miles? Because, I mean, that dude sounds like an old man in a young kid's body.

That's a great question, man. We did a global search with our casting director, Francine Mason Mason. We knew the movie would only work if we found the right kid to play this role, a role of a musician who's so amazing that they can kind of like, you know, you know, rip a hole in the space and time. and summon vampires, you know, to come and get him. And, you know, we looked all over, man. We looked for actors who could sing.

We looked for singers who can act. Just a big massive search. And we found him in Brooklyn, New York, man. He's a musician. This is his first time acting in a feature film. And he grew up in the church in a big gospel family. His mom is a singer. His grandfather's a singer.

And he had this, you know, he's kind of a child prodigy musically, and he was touring with the artist, her, on an international tour. When we got a hold of him, man. And he did an audition. We heard that voice. And he had to actually teach himself how to play the guitar for the movie, because he's a pianist. But, yeah, man, I'm so thankful we found him, man.

He gave him an incredible performance. The Genesis of Sinners, are you just sitting down at a laptop going, man, I got this idea? And then where do you start when writing it? Like, what's the first line you write? I usually start with the outline, but for this one, because we had to find his kid, I have to describe the character of Sammy. And I came up with this concept of, you know, if you keep dancing with the devil,

one day he's going to follow you home. Because I knew you would have a preacher father who was kind of warning him against this lifestyle of the, you know, of the blues musician. But, you know, look, I had an uncle, my uncle James, who was from Mississippi, born and raised there, and then moved to Oakland and married my grandmother's little sister. And he was, like, the oldest male member of my family for a long time. And I loved my uncle, and all he did was listen to Blues music. You know, he passed away in 2015, and I'll find myself listening to those albums just to think of him, you know what I mean, as a kind of a morning ritual. And that's kind of where the idea for this movie came from. How do you feel about spoilers and I asked that?

Because I wasn't going to mention vampires because it wasn't in when I read the description of the movie. You mentioned vampires. But to the show when I was explaining to them why I liked it, I never said that word because I didn't know if that was a spoiler. So specifically, I guess we can say vampires. And then two. Absolutely. Okay. Hey, everybody, vampires.

Okay. Now we know. And then you got to protect against spoilers. Just the spoiler culture. How would you define it now? I mean, it's intense, man. It's so intense. Everybody is very used to instant gratification.

I think it's like smart phone culture, to be honest, because everything has a Yelp review. You got so many choices that everybody wants to know what something is before they buy it or before they give it its time. So I think that causes a real hunger for spoilers. It causes a hunger for knowing what everything is before you experience it, which I really think is kind of. harming the theatrical experience and the viewing experience, man.

I remember a time when, you know, you just, you might have seen a trailer before you watch something, you know what I'm saying? But now you got, you got trailers, you got reaction videos, you got people breaking it down, you got a thousand critics, you know, you got rotten tomatoes, you got an audience score, you know, so I think, you know, that's not just movies. I think that's everything, you know, before you buy a t-shirt, you want to read the reviews on what happened with, you know, what's the t-shirt feel like? What happens when you watch?

You know, like, it's just a product of the information age. And it's something that, you know, you know, that you have to deal with as a creative. You know, but I do, I did make this movie for the theatrical experience. I wanted to be experienced in the theater with strangers, not knowing what's going to happen next. So I've been really cognizant of how we talk about it. But yes, definitely, okay to say that it's vampires.

And people get bit in the neck. It's crazy, you know, amongst other things. Michael B. Jordan, a big part of your history of success, Black Panther, Creed, and then now sinners. What is he like as a worker, as an actor, what does he like? I mean, he's incredible, man. He's amongst the top percentile, right? It's very few movie stars like him who can open a movie the way that he has done in the past and the way we hoping he will for sinners. But what What was so special about Mike is, you know, he grew up on a film set. You know, he started as a child actor, acting on HBO shows like The Wire and also was

in Friday Night Lights and parenthood. You know, so people kind of grew up watching him in their homes. And then I was fortunate enough to work with him on Fruitville Station when you made the transition to being a lead actor. You know, he had been in a couple movies before that, you know, your chronicles and your red tails. But, you know, for me, it was the first time. working with him when he was the star of the movie.

And he's maintained his kindness, his humility, and his work ethic, man. Like, you know, he has the same, he's the same way as he was when he was a young man before he was this global superstar. And that's so rare, bro, because the lifestyle of being a star kind of, it can eat away at your spirit, you know, it can eat away at your kindness. It can make you not willing to engage with the average person. but he has none of that man he still is a feminine oriented guy

he walks on a set he knows everybody's name from the assistants all the way up to the producer treats everybody the same you know and I'll work with him bro as long as I can you know for that fact whenever he shows up for Creed 1 and the first time he takes his shirt off where you're like dang you'd have to go that hard

yeah he goes hard bro like whatever whatever direction he's going in he's gonna go he's gonna go um you know he's kind of like an athlete that man, or a musician, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you hear these stories about a guy like, like Kirk Hammett, who plays, you know, guitar from Metallica and kills, you know, and kills it, you know, sells millions of records, but still wants to go back and get training on how to play

the guitar better, you know what I mean? You hear these stories about these kind of people. Mike is like that, you know, he went to an almost like an acting boot camp before you, before you, you know, play it in this role, you know, working with the dialect coach and a body control coach, but also working with some twin consultants that I found for him in terms of getting them into the psychology of what it's like to be an identical twin

to help develop these performances, man. But he has an incredible work ethic. And I think that's why people show up to the movies to see what he does. So I want to talk about the music for a second and being someone who grew up loving blues, Alabama, Mississippi, muscle shoulders, like all of that area, right?

Not from Arkansas. So all of that kind of trickled in. But it was always... Arkansas gets a shout out in the movie, right, from Little Rock a couple times. A couple times, yeah, because they were like going to Little Rock to do their thing. So the question for me is, like Robert Johnson, apparently sold a soul to the devil, you know, to be so good, you know, to be so good. Like, how much did that come into your mind when... Because that's what I thought of, especially when it first starts playing, because he's so good.

Yeah, big time, bro. No, 100%. And what was crazy, you... You know, there's two books, man, that we studied for this. And I bought these books for everybody, the crew of the cash. One is called Blues People by Leroy Jones, who would letter change his name to Amiri Baraka. And another book is called Deep Blues by Robert Palmer. And it was in that book, you know, a deep dive study on the anthropology of the Delta Blues.

It was in that book that I discovered that Robert Johnson wasn't the first person to go around saying that, that he sort of soul to become a good guitar player. actually a guy named Tommy Johnson, who was the first person on record to say that, who was a little bit before Robert Johnson. You know, and it was kind of like a marketing thing for him. You know, he would go around with a rabbit's foot and develop this like kind of mystical aura around himself, you know, to kind of sell himself and also discovered that that that story had prevalence in West African folklore.

You know, and it was a deity named Papa Legbaugh. who oftentimes stories about him would be misinterpreted as being stories about the Christian devil. You know, but that was kind of who you would make a deal with like that for artistic prominence, you know, and that would come out of price. And, you know, for me, you know, once reading that story and doing a deep dive into it, I got obsessed with the concept of the falsity and deal, you know what I'm saying? And I wanted to think about it for the concept for every character. What is the deal that they make with themselves and with others?

you know, you know, in this circumstance, of Clarksdale, Mississippi, 1932, you know, just how,

how much the odds were pitted against some of these people, you know, what would they be willing to give up, you know, for escape?

And through that, you know, that there came the concept of a vampire and what he had to offer them, you know, so it made me really excited to make this movie even more.

All right, two final questions. This one is different personalities take different management types. As you're on set directing, are you having to manage all the personalities different based on what actually what motivates or inspires or doesn't hurt their feelings?

Absolutely, bro. You manage a lot of artists, a lot of professionals. It's a lot of unions present, different unions, you know what I'm saying? Like you got to respect it all, man. And I learned fast, man, on my first movie, you know, that everybody responds to different styles of management, man. different styles of collaboration. You know, some people have no ego.

Some people have ginormous ones. Everybody works with their heart. You know, everybody is working long hours, man. People are missing their families. You know what I'm saying? So you have to be cognizant of all these things. And for me, as a filmmaker, I have to get to know the people that I'm working with.

For me to have success. You know what I mean? I can't really work with strangers. You know, if I'm working with somebody for the first time, you know, I'll spend an hour or two hours, just getting to know how they do. tick, you know what's important to them? You know what I'm saying? What's going on in their life?

Do they have children? You know what I'm saying? Are they in a long distance relationship? You know, all these things that are good to get to know and have perspective on. You know, I came up playing football first, bro. That was my first love. And I remember the coaches that were really, really, that made me feel good about myself. And I remember the coaches that made me feel like, you know what I mean?

And I gave better performances to the ones that made me feel good about myself, man, you know what I'm saying? We had better records as teams. So I always wanted to be the former, you know, You know what I'm saying, whenever I'm dealing with my cash and my crew. Are you nervous? Are you nervous? Like, it's about to hit. Do you get nervous? I'm always nervous, bro. I'm nervous talking to Bobby Bones right now, man.

You know what I'm saying? But I'm going to let it ride, you know, and hopefully people show up. Man, I really appreciate it, man. I really appreciate you having me. It gives me an opportunity to share this movie. I love this movie. I love music. You know, I love Louis Euronson, who did the music for this. Who's done the music for all of my films, man. and this movie is a product of that love, man. It's a home-cooked meal, and it's for everybody. And I hope everybody has a chance to go out and see it, preferably be in IMAX.

It only be in IMAX for two weeks. You know, but yeah, man, folks go out and enjoy, man. What's really cool, not to hold you anymore, but you talk about the music. It's so music intensive. I love, and I don't want to spoil anything, whenever it goes generationally through a certain. I thought that was such a great idea. Hard to pull off, but you did. But that's a hard thing.

That's a hard thing to manage, but it was awesome. So not that you care what I think. But yeah, it was amazing. I do, bro. I mean, come on, man. You bobby your bones, bro. Ryan, appreciate the time. Thank you so much.

I hope you crush it with this like you have everything else. I don't know, man. It was great. And everybody go check out Warner Brothers, new picture, new movie sinners. I loved it. Ryan Coogler, I guess. Thank you, Ryan. See you, buddy.

Thank you so much. Thank you, bro. All right. We'll take a break and we'll come back. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what y'all saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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I have a son who's a size 11. he's currently serving in the Army National Guard. I'm so proud of him. He just barely got done with high school. Now he's done boot camp and now he's done his tech school. I go get him in May and I would love for him to win some of your shoes. So put me on Team Lunchbox. I'm ready to go for my son who's a size of 11.

Let's go, baby. I'm confused on the Team Lunchbox thing. He wants a lunchbox to play for him, I guess. But if I know who he's picking, I would pick a game. Like I would pick like conjugation. getting verbs. Don't even know what that means. Exactly. You're not going to win it.

You know what that means? We can get them on for a game. We'll get her on for... That was a guy, right? We'll get Toby on next week. And we'll let them play a game for some shoes. I have a couple pair up here from home still. Give me the next one.

Kristen, Ray. Morning show. Just wanted to give a shout out to Lunchbox. I just listened to the episode where you interviewed the challenge cast members and you did an awesome job. You asked some great questions, things I've always been curious about.

So I figured you deserved the shout out. Great job, Lunchbox. Love the show. People that watched the challenge loved it. I thought you did a great job. Other people were confused because it was mayhem and they didn't know who anybody was. But the people that knew what they were listening to thought you did a great job because you knew what you were talking about. Awesome.

Yeah. Because, man, it was so fun. It was a win. It was so fun. I still think about it and I'm just like, man, that was awesome. And that's what I thought about when people don't listen to it, like they don't know what the challenge is. So when they talk, am I supposed to say, hey, this is Polly's? talking? No, because that's definitely an insider interview. Okay. So you're doing it. People from the

challenge, people probably aren't going to stick around and listen to all that if they don't love the challenge, but the purpose was to feed challenge fans. Yeah. So I think it did its case. No, it was perfect. It was mayhem, but it was perfect because you understood the mayhem if you were a fan of the challenge. Yeah. And I want them to come back on. Eddie was like editing it at some point. I was like, why are you editing that? And he goes, oh, it won't say why. I better. Apparently there were some sponsored things. Oh. A couple of questions in there to take out.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't worry about it. I don't worry about it. It's not even to talk about, but yeah. We have to kind of guardrail it a little bit.

There's two things that we had to take out. I'll tell you later. It makes sense. But that's also why we would never do something like that live? Because mayhem. Because mayhem. Right. So, great job.

Give me the next one, Ray. I have a morning, corny, after dark. Make sure you don't act. You don't act. You play this during the morning show because this is definitely after dark. And it's a little more hardcore than Amy's. Oh, my gosh. So called after dark.

Ray, pause. Kindergarten. Okay. Are we ready for this? I don't know because I don't know what the joke is. All I saw was the voicemail. She said the words hardcore. Yeah.

Is that a different version, Morning Corny Hardcore? Oh, God. There's After Dark and then there's hardcore. Okay, let's hear Morning Corny Hardcore. Anyway, why did the Avon Lady walk funny? Because her lips stick. Oh, oh. That's disgusting.

Oh, oh. I didn't really hear it. What do you didn't hear it? That's disgusting. Selective hearing or what? Maybe not. Hey, good. Move on.

Yeah, we're good. Don't even need to hear it again. That was. Good, move on. That was out to dark. Lunchbox is upset because he thinks we're making up punishments that he either didn't sign up for or didn't deserve. Elaborate? Yeah, I don't know where this T-shirt came in.

Like, I don't remember. This shirt right here that says Ask me about syphilis. Yeah, I understand the hat and the hanging things. Trit nuts? Yeah, I don't know where the shirt. You don't remember what happened? Walk me through it in your head.

Walk me through what you lost when you lost it. I lost the game for the truck thing. That was out of nowhere. Like we made up this punishment. We spun the wheel. But that's all not true. You, you... No, that's what I'm saying.

Like, we came up with the punishment afterwards and we spun it. It made it. Okay. And then I had a double. or nothing where I had to wear a hat. But all of a sudden now I'm being told that I meant to wear a shirt. And I'm like, what are we talking about? So, Lunchbox does not remember us adding the shirt.

So we did some investigating because it's been wrong before. Clip one, this is from the first game on Thursday. Now, he played a game that he wanted to play and was like, I'll make a wager. If I win, I win the prize. But if I lose, I'll spin the wheel to take the punishment. You guys remember that? Yes. And that was a long time ago.

And we waited like a month to make him serve his punishment. And then I tried to let him out of it and you guys did not agree. We added some free spaces to the will, which we never do. He did not hit a free space. He landed on truck nuts. So that one, you remember that, right? I remember that vividly. Okay.

So then it's, we'll let you try to remove the truck nuts. But if you lose, then you have to add something. And it was the hat. So here's the first clip. If he is to win this game, then I'm about to give him. He can no longer wear the truck. Yes. But if he is to lose it.

lose the game. He also has to wear this hat that we were sent. Ask me about syphilis. Would you like to play two TV characters, one actor? You could also do the game, the celebrity actor game. Give me that one. Wait, which one? The two actors. Okay, there you go. And he lost. So at this point, he's got truck nuts and a syphilis hat. Now, give me clip three. So I said, okay, you can play one more game, risk not doing anything, but if you lose, we have a shirt that says, ask me about syphilis

that he asked to wear every day. Now you have two games here. You have the celebrity voice actor game or you have the country music lyrics game. Man, I'm ready to play. You know me, I'm not scared. Which game? Give me the country music lyric.

Okay. And did you win? No, I think I blacked out. That's why... Oh, the whole game. You don't know any of it? I don't remember that. That's why I think I blacked out.

Like trauma or drunk? Trauma. Yeah. So now, though, you do understand. I'll tell you what, I'll make you a deal. Oh, good. Yes, another deal. Oh, my gosh.

No, no more deals on games. But on Monday, because we'll walk you into this. On Monday, you wear the truck nuts. We'll do the ceremonial truck nutting, and we'll do the syphilis hat. Truck nutty. And then on starting Tuesday, you wear the shirt with the nuts and the hat. We'll give you one day of not wearing the shirt. Okay.

I'm so generous. Are you ready to answer questions? Yes. About syphilis? Yep. Do you have syphilis? No. Why are you wearing that hat?

My buddy, Eddie, gave you syphilis? Has it. Has it? Has it? And here's his number. You can call him and wish him well. Gave me syphilis. That's messed up, man. We have in a few minutes a caller coming on because Ramundo asked me if I could get him tickets to the Memphis Grizzlies playoff game, which I don't have any connections there.

And I said, no, I can't. And so then a listener hit him up and said, hey, I have tickets. And so you're like, dang, this is really cool. Let's just hooking it up, right? Yeah, pretty much. and it was just a DM on my Instagram and I'm like, yeah! And then some of the stuff she was saying, she goes, she had four seats. That's cool.

That's cool. Food and drinks. Oh, so as part of where the seats are, you get to go like in the back. Yeah, free food, free drinks at the Sissies Lounge. That's awesome. 90 minutes before tip, it includes pregame access to the tunnel that's right next to the players. You hold your hands out and they slap it when they come through. And you also have the opportunity.

it's not guaranteed for autograph and photo, likely with Memphis Grizzlies players. Because you're right there next to the tunnel. That's a very generous listener. So, one, is it a scam? Probably not, because if you can go to their page to see if they're a real person. But two, yeah, how do you get them? Yeah, I'm kind of confused by the whole thing because the way we presented on the show it was Bones is going to see if he got to any of these connects.

Let's go to this game, you know? And then she hits me up and she's like, I got ticket. I'm going to tickets. Cool, you got tickets, so how do I get the tickets? So I'm like, are they free? Oh, you don't know if she's selling? Yeah, I have no idea. Okay, she just got on the phone. True? Is this her? Yes.

Okay. Can you put her up? Yep, Hannah. Hey, Hannah. It's Bobby, Bowens. How are you? Hey, Bobby. I'm good. How are you? Really good. Thank you for calling. Thank you for listening. And so we're talking about, Ray Mundo was like, hey, can you get me tickets? And I don't have any tickets to the Memphis Grizzlies, nor do I know anybody. However, do you have season tickets? Is that what this is?

Yeah, we do. And do you live in Memphis? I do. Okay. And so Ray's confused because he doesn't really know. What do you not know, Ray? Well, what she had put is that it's row four. So, I mean, when LeBron in one of these pictures is shooting a free throw, you're eye level with LeBron.

Okay. And so those are amazing seats, and it's a playoff game with the Memphis Grizzly. So I'm just confused. was like, is it free? Or like, how much will he be paying for these? Obviously, she could make a lot of money off these tickets. Great point. Hannah, so when you reach out to Ray, what was your,

were you trying to sell them to them or give them to them? Well, I was going to sell them to them. Great. And I think, don't change. We're not trying to convince you to change in any way whatsoever. How much were you wanting Ray Mundo to pay for them? We were going to give them to him for like 800 total with a parking pass. Oh, a parking pass. For two tickets?

Yeah. You wouldn't be able to buy those tickets for $800 with a parking pass if you were to buy them on the secondary sites. Yeah, that's a problem. I don't think we're going to Memphis. Well, how much did y'all think they were going to be? Free 99? You think somebody's going to give you free tickets in the fourth row and they can sell them for $500? When they're a super fan of the show, yeah.

I wouldn't. No, no. It's not like they're going to be hanging out with you. They're trying to make money. I mean, if we were getting floor seats, I'm in. No, I thought, so he was never part of it. Ray. I mean, if it was two tickets, I would, yes, I would need to find a friend.

Did I ask lunch about it? No. He was acting like he was the one going with you. I don't know where he came with that, but honestly, my wife is working. So it may be just me. But yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know it was $800. $400 each.

Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a fun time. For the playing game, for fourth row. Do it. And y'all have a sports podcast, write it off. Yeah. I never really came into this saying that I was going to pay for. Honestly, I did it as a bit because I was like, Bones, dude, a whole couple of this tickets, man.

I hear you, and I understand everything you're saying. However, I'm saying the situation has now presented itself in a different way than you expected. Yeah. So you can capitalize off of it and spend some money or not, but it isn't the way you wanted it, but it is still pretty advantageous. If you were to go, I'm going to look at some seats here. It's turning into an expensive bit. Section.

Where are your seats, Hannah? Can you tell me, like, do you know the section or anything? Yeah, it's row four, I think the section's like three. I don't know, my husband does all this. So if you were to buy... But there is a wrinkle. Oh, there's a wrinkle. Let's go.

There's always a wrinkle. The tickets sold, but if they win tonight, we play OKC in the series, and we'll have tickets. Okay, so the tickets to the playing game tonight have sold, which I would have sold them too, because it's tonight. Yes, because Ray was like, unfortunately. I live too far away. Yeah. But if they do go and they'll be the eight seat if they win, they'll go play the one seed, which is Oklahoma City.

They'll play three of those games in Memphis if it goes that far. But you're not going to go to the games, Hannah? Well, we do want to go. We have two sets. We have two pairs. So we've got tickets in the 105s too. How rich are you? That's pretty cool.

I'm not that. Yeah, she's balling. That's good. No, you know, you're absolutely rich if you have two different season tickets and you sell, you I'm on the floor. I mean, what do you do for a living? We looked into this, okay? Why are you angry at her?

She literally offered Ray. She literally offered Ray a deal. Sorry you have to work on Good Friday. I know, I agree. No, wait, hold on. So, Hannah, thank you for offering. Obviously, I guess we didn't get back fast enough, but I appreciate you reaching out to Ray.

If you decide that you're not going to go to one of the games, if they do, they're playing Dallas tonight? Yeah. If they do beat Dallas, pop over a message to Ray Mundo. Yeah. And we'll go for. from there because they'll start in OKC.

Right. They'll have two games. Yeah, two games. And then they'll go back at seven to OKC, six and seven. Right? Six and seven, one, two, six and seven. So there'll be three chances, Ray, at least two chances for you to have a game. Is that amount we're still sticking to that 800 where it would be? Just let her play it by ear. Yeah. I'll let you know, Ray. Yeah.

He wants to lock her into that price. But also, they're going to play the Thunder if we win. And Bobby, I know you like the Thunder now. So, you can come to. But I have a hookup with a thunder. Of course. Yeah. You got Jalen.

Yeah. I got a hookup. I got GM and players. I'm good over there on that. But I appreciate that. Thank you very much. And thank you for listening and reaching out. Like, that's fun.

And it was very nice of you to offer. What did you sell them for? We sold them for, I think there were like $450 a seat. So you sold them for like $900 bucks? Yeah. So ready to get $100 discount there. Is that like a massive profit? So you guys just were.

banking on them to make the playoffs and that's how you're able to make some money then yeah i mean most of our money has been made back by now throughout the season so that's been fun okay how many games have you gone to uh we've probably gone to maybe 10 i mean that's a significant amount of games to actually go to so you bought season tickets and then you try to sell the ones to the games you're not going to uh-huh dang why do you have a friend why do you have two sets Well, we kind of went into this thing with Topshot. Do you know what that is? The NFT thing?

Yes. Oh, they do, especially. Lunchbox bought a bunch of this stuff. Yeah, I bought a bunch of those. Didn't just go so well. We were in it with them, and then they stopped doing Top Shot, and then our friend was owning them with Top Shot. So then he got to keep them, but then we helped just be a partner with him.

I guess I don't understand. I know what Top Shot is, but how do you get season tickets with Top Shot? I don't know. That's a great question. She said her husband's into it, and that they sort of lucked into it in a way. Where did you grow up, Hannah? I actually grew up in Dallas, which is funny because they're playing the Mavs, and I used to be a Mavs fan.

Oh, not anymore. You traded your allegiance? Not anymore. Would you have left the Mavs, though, if Luka was still there? Yeah. Would you have left the Mavs when Luca left because you would have been so disgusted? If I still lived in Dallas? I mean, I don't know.

I was a Dirk fan, so I wasn't really in it for Luca. I felt that. Yeah, Dirk was awesome. Yeah, Dirk was awesome. All right. Well, Hannah, thank you. Reach out to Ray if they win. I do not think they're going to win.

Thank you, Hannah. I know. I know. I heard you say that we suck yesterday on 25 whistles. It's not that you suck. It's that you're like 13 and 17. You're kind of blowing it in the last 30 games. I know.

I told my sister you're not wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And Jaws like, he shoots his finger guns and it's like, okay, we can't do that. Then he throws those grenades. Like eventually he's just going to do a whole nuclear. I know. He's just going to throw a middle finger every now and then.

He's crazy. Hannah, thank you for calling. And hopefully we'll talk to you next week, okay? Hey, you're welcome. Go hogs. I agree. Thank you. Bye.

I'm going to watch. I'm not going for the purpose of just watching, but I'm flying to Fayetteville today. I'm going to make the second game. They're playing a double header today in softball. Oh. Because they don't play on Sunday because of Easter. Thank you. And so they play two today.

They play at two, which you can't get there in time for that one, but they play again at like five. So I'll be there for that one. And then we'll go tomorrow. We'll go to church on Sunday in Oklahoma and then we'll come back. fun so that's what we're gonna go do busy weekend yeah is that oh yeah that's the field that's the field that we yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we don't talk about that man we're just whistling if we want nothing to see okay I'll do one more thing and then we'll break it off I'm gonna do the cult leaders thing that we have here how many cult leaders can you name Amy oh man oh

famous stuff famous stuff yeah yeah David Carre I have the top five cult leaders and their crimes. If you're really good at culting, it usually ends bad, but you get famous. Yeah. Yeah. Gwen Shamblin. Oh, that's a risky one. Why?

What does she do? She died. She's one of the plane crash, the church. Oh. Oh, I don't know if that's a cult, man. It felt very cultish. Like Luz-Wa. That's the only way you can go meet Jesus.

in heaven is if you lose enough weight. And I think they're still an operation. My mom did that, the way down workshop. It's very culty. Very, very personal story now about that, that I can not tell you guys on the air right now, but I can tell you off the air. She's alive.

No, no. Just kidding. NPR. Amy. Yeah. Okay, she didn't make the top five list. Yeah, I guess she's, I mean, but I mean, there's this whole documentary about it.

Let's see. Who are some other, I don't know. David Koresh is a big one. Eddie Evony? Jim Jones. That did make the list. So did crush. And then I can't, why can't I think of his name?

Helter Skelter. Yeah, he made the list to Charles Manson. So I'll walk you through, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. At 5. I didn't know his name, but it's Shoko Asahara. And his cult name was Ayum Shirenkyo. I'm sure I'm not saying that right, but I tried. In 1995, his followers were released deadly sarin gas in Tokyo subway system, killing 13 and injuring thousands.

Oh, my gosh. His crimes were terrorism, murder, and chemical warfare. One of the deadliest terrorist attacks in Japanese history. He was executed in 2018. I don't remember him. Probably because it didn't happen in the Western world. Number four, Marshall Applewhite. Now, don't be confused with the Texas quarterback.

Major Applewhite. Yeah, like, I wasn't going to confuse them. I was like, dang, he's a coal leader. No, they'd say the Longhorn fans are cold. The Longhorns. He was their leader. He was. So Marshall Applewhite

You'll know him when I tell you who he is Anything come to mind with Marshall Not at all Applewhite? Heaven's Gate is the cult Now 1997 Applewhite and 38 followers died by suicide in matching outfits And Nike shoes believing they descend to a spaceship

Following the Halbop comet Do you remember that? They all killed themselves thinking they were going to be up on the comet? The Nike shoes in the comment sounds familiar Oh, I do remember this one Because it was pretty famous And then Kean Pill did a sketch on it too Where they were the ones

They were acting like they weren't in it But they survived in they were like Stop! It was hilarious I think that's why I remember it The crime's psychological manipulation And orchestrated mass suicide Their legacy, his legacy known for eerie videos Because he would do like VHS tapes

And the belief in aliens and ascension Number three is David Koresh The Waco Siege. Oh, yeah. The cult name was, Amy? What were they if they were part of that cult? The Branch Dividian. Correct. Good job.

1993, a 51-day standoff between the FBI and Correcious followers in Waco, Texas, ended in a fiery inferno killing 76 people. The crime, illegal weapons possession, child abuse, and obstruction of justice. The Waco Siege remains controversial and fueled anti-government sentiment. The government made some bad mistakes, too. Mad. like bad Koresh, bad guy

government made some bad moves in order because all those people didn't have to die I didn't realize it was 51 days we weren't a part

of all 51 days of it and the media wasn't like it is now there was a 24 hour news cycle but there wasn't social media yeah so what did we catch like the last week

we caught whenever they started to burn stuff down number two Charles Manson, the Manson family murders. Colt named the Manson family. In 1969, followers of Charles Manson brutally murdered actress Sharon Tate and six others. She was eight months pregnant at the time. The crime was conspiracy to commit murder. Charles Manson never actually killed anybody. No, he didn't. But directly ordered the killings. He believed in an apocalyptic race war. He called Heltor

Skelter. They made a movie not so much about Charles Manson, but it was about that time. Once a fun of time? Yeah. Once in a fun of time in Hollywood. Yeah, it was pretty good. It's a really good movie. Yeah, he's creepy. He died like in the last five or six years, right?

2017. How old was he when he died? Because he seemed like he was pretty old. I think he lived a long life in prison. 83. Yeah. Hey, Morgan, you turn your mic off. I can hear you typing.

Because I start to feel like Charles Mansor or somebody's talking to me, like type into my head. And then kill three people. And the murderers, too, were like, men and women, right? Like just, I think I saw an interview with like maybe one of the girls that was a murderer and she was old now. Like, I don't know, she was like maybe in her 70s, 60s, 70s? So what did he say?

Just go kill someone randomly or do you pick people out that he wanted killed? He picked, he knew the house and he said whoever's in that house. Go kill them all. Oh. And they did. Creepy. Jim Jones, the Jonestown Massacre. Their cult name was the People's Temple.

In 1978, Jones orchestrated mass murder. suicide of over 900 people. This is the Kool-Aid, right? He made the Kool-Aid and everybody drank it. That's where don't drink the Kool-Aid originated from. But Jim Jones, man, that's a lot of people dying right there at once. 900?

That's a big cult. Like, you've got to be really charismatic. Yeah. And find some really vulnerable people. Both. It has to be the cold front meets warm front tornado. Like, you've got to be really charismatic. but the more charismatic you are, the less vulnerable they have to be.

They're still a bit vulnerable, but... True. Also, how do you find these people pre-internet? How do you get 900 people pre-internet to join your cult? Well, I started small, right? Warm. Start small, and I think they started in America, and then they moved down to South America. Word of mouth.

And I think technically, too, it wasn't Kool-Aid. It was like Flavor-Aid or something, but Kool-Aid got the... It was like Red-Flavorade. Yeah. But Kool-Aid was the brand. We could have done generic or brand name. Yeah. Tim Allen says they're going to do Toy Story 5.

I don't get annoyed. I don't get annoyed when they do prequels or sequels or remakes because I understand like the business of it. Like they're just trying to cover their butts and make money. It's hard to make money in movies. I don't like Toy Story is they're not re. They're continuing the story. I like that.

People are just mad about it. Yeah. I like that they're continuing the story. I'm not even a huge toy story guy, but I have seen them and watched them as a bit. And I was like, Toy Story's pretty good. I think Toy Story 2 is the best. Is that? Three is really good, too.

Yeah, I don't remember why I think 2 is the best. Does two have you have a, you got a friend in me? That's one. Oh, crap. You like the sad Jesse song. Wouldn't she love me? Jesse's mom is guy. No.

No, no. But what's cool about that, though, is like, the kids don't care. And then, you know, whoever watched one and two, they're older now. But then the younger ones get to experience a new toy story, and they don't, know what the story is. That's cool. Tim Allen says Toy Story 5 will focus a lot on Jesse the Cowgirl, the toy. And that Buzz and Woody will reunite the sequel hits theaters June 19th, 2026. So they're not going to have to be in it as much, but they can kind of move it, right?

That's what they're kind of doing, like, focusing on the other characters. Because I feel like the first trilogy was like what it was supposed to be and everything else is just kind of extra at this point. Hey, speaking of movies and speaking to terrorist stuff or cults, Mike on movie Mike's movie podcast, had on an ex-fbi agent who, Did he direct the documentary? He is a part of it, and I had on the director as well. But the FBI agent was one of the people who went in and rescued survivors.

After Oklahoma City bombing. Oh. Oh, is that... Is that on Netflix? Did you glitch? Did you glitch? Are you okay? What happened?

I'm okay. Is that on Netflix? Yeah, it just came out. Okay, I just saw the preview. What was your takeaways about the bombing that you didn't know? Well, in connection to what we were talking about earlier, I didn't realize it was in response to what happened in, Waco. Oh yeah, the guy was mad at the government. He was mad at the government and this was

his way of saying, we're going to like come back at you. And that was kind of what started that whole thing. So it took place not that long after that. And I didn't know how massive the bomb was and 168 people died because I was so young when it happened. I don't really remember those details. So watching this documentary was me learning everything for the first time and I didn't realize just how crazy that was. And when they went in, they thought maybe there was another bomb in there. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. I've heard the audio because I went and toured it. And if you go into a specific place,

they play you the audio of like a town council meeting that was across the street from the building. And so they're like, all right, we're going to vote on Proposition 283 water. Oh, and you hear it. Because everything has to be recorded if it's like city council. And it was running while the bomb went off.

It sounds like a monster is eating the place. Like they didn't, their place didn't blow up, but it was so close to them because it was like across the street or a couple buildings down. What else did you learn? I learned how they had no technology back then because they couldn't even search who was in the system, like who was arrested.

That took them days to do because they had already arrested Timothy McVeigh. They didn't know he was in connection with the bombing, but it was for a separate incident. And they're like, let's just run a database of all these people's names. And it took them like three days just to run that quick search

that we could do now in like two seconds. The Timothy McVeigh thing's wild because... So the bomb blows up. he has his car parked so he can do a getaway but the bomb again is so massive it shakes his car the license plate comes off

of his car so he's driving down the highway he gets pulled over for no license plate not because he's part of the bombing he has a gun on him he can't have a gun on him so they arrest him put him in jail for no license plate

that turns into having a firearm he's in jail the whole time they're looking for him and he's like so calm and collective that they don't suspect anything he's just so normal they're like no way this could be in connection in any way.

He felt no remorse. Check out Movie Mike's Movie Podcasts if you want to hear the FBI agent talk about that, who was a part of the documentary, and the documentaries on Netflix. Yeah. What's it called? It's called Oklahoma City bombing American Terror. I think I could watch that because there hasn't been 100 versions of that. Like the OJ Simpson stuff, I don't even care to watch anymore.

There's so many. Because I've seen it 13 times. I've seen the documentaries. I've seen people be the actors. That's happened so much. where I think this I probably need and should be reminded of how that affected people that are even close to us. What year was it?

Like 95 or something? Yeah, 95. So 30 years tomorrow, I believe. Wow. Yeah, movie mics, movie podcast with that. Okay, Amy, I hope you have a great trip in South Carolina. Have fun at those bars, Amy. Yeah.

The social, or what it was called? The Republic. Morgan, I hope you get some Easter eggs. Thank you. I'm excited. I've been scouting. Is that fair? What?

I feel like you guys have cheated this Easter egg thing because you walked in a minute ago and you're like, I already know where the eggs are going right to them. Like you guys are, is that? I mean, that's how we used to play growing up. We'd scout all the time. It's part of the game. What are you going to, how is she penalized for walking around the office that happened to see an egg and open it up and know what's in it? Right.

Then hide them better. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They're just hanging out right there by the tree or whatever. Like, yeah. Or put everybody in the conference room, then go hide them and then everybody run, you know, if you hide them early. So you're saying they should have hid that. everybody that wants to do it should have gone to a place

and they run around and hide them. Yes. And then everybody goes out. That's how we do in the family. Good luck. I'm sure you don't want to hunt? I'm sure. There's some good ones.

I'll be live streaming it, so go watch on YouTube. Look for that $50 gift card. Yeah, go to our YouTube page. Go to YouTube Bobby Bone Show. Morgan will live stream that starting at 11. And then if you don't watch it live and you're listening to this in the podcast, you can go and watch it. Just go to our YouTube page and it'll be, go to our live feed part.

Or we'll bump it or whatever we can do. Okay, that's it. Thank you guys. hope you have a great weekend. We will see you guys on Monday. Bye, everybody. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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