The Bobby Bones Show - FRI PT 2: Dan + Shay Open Up About Insecurities, Fame And Also Share Personal 'Tell Me Something Good' Stories

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Dan + Shay stop by the studio to get real about everything going on right now with new music, new mindset, and old insecurities. Dan shares the emotional story behind “Say So"., they get honest about something you wouldn’t expect after all their success and Shay talks about life with four kids. Amy talks about something that Gen Z are now considered old and boring that we all thought were cool.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But I did see the Air Force Ones, which, I still wear from time to time. Those are now seen by Gen Z users as basic and overused. I thought you said we weren't supposed to pay attention to that. Yeah, you don't have to. I'm not saying, like, if you look down and I'm telling you the story right now and you're like, oh, I have on my Air Force Ones, who cares? Just own it, wear it, do what you want.

But I sometimes think like, okay, next time I put on my sneakers, I might be like, oh, I don't know if I'm going to reach for my Air Force Ones. Maybe you call them sneakers would be the first thing to not do. What am I supposed to call? Shoes. I mean, sneakers feel like a little house in the prairie type stuff. But again, I don't care what Gen Z thinks anyway. It's not that I don't care if people think.

Like, who cares about Gen Z if you're in your 40s? Like, why am I worried about Gen Z? Yeah, that's right. No, I'm not doing it. Wait, are you wearing your Air Force ones? No. Oh. Would you care about what your kids think? Because that's kind of like that's what I'm saying.

Like, I've got my daughter who looks to me like, oh, mom, and she's embarrassed to be with me. No, but I also think this is probably just a story that came out this week, and that's not consistent. Because they just made some dress, Air Force ones that are coming out in a few weeks. What do you mean by dress? They're leather. They're super nice. Oh, like you're wearing them with a suit.

Air Force ones are adult shoes. They're adult Nikes. And they're so comfortable. Like, Air Force ones are so comfortable. They're okay. But that makes me sound old, too, that they're comfortable. They're okay. Like, New Balance makes the most comfortable shoe that are still pretty cool.

Those are sneakers. Yeah, what are you calling? Running shoes? I guess I would call them tennis shoes. Okay, because sneaker, running shoes to me have a very different look. than a sneaker. Okay. I think it's just what would you call a general athletic shoe.

Yeah, a running shoe. Okay, I would call it a tennis shoe. Okay. And you would call it a sneaker. That's probably a thing. People probably do call it sneakers. I think you're the only one. What do you say, Bob?

Are you saying tennis shoe? Yeah, it's a tennis shoe. Or would you think he's saying tennis shoe? No, we used to say tennie shoe. Yeah, but that's just a version of tennis shoe. Okay. Tenie shoe. So when I was ordering your new bound

that I got you for your birthday, I typed in, cool, new balance sneakers. Any chance to be in a sneakers bar while you're looking for sneakers? And then those popped up and I thought, oh, I got him a purple pair like this. I think he likes them, so maybe we'll get him the brown. And Stevenson was like, I like the brown. It's cool. So we went with the brown. And then when they came in the mail, it's like, these were really brown.

Good thing, Bobby's sort of color. I know what brown they are. I like them. I'm just kind of at this point, I think I've moved out of my shoe era. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. You too many. Well, I don't care as much anymore.

Oh. I had an era of, man, I'm so into shoes. And I wanted every kind of shoe. And I didn't have nice shoes growing up, so I wanted to have every kind of shoe now. And now, I found myself donating two or three pair a week. You're like, I just donated the brown ones. No, no, no. The purple ones you got me last year, I still wear.

You'll see them in my videos where I'm pushing the stroller. So those are good shoes. Okay. Well, I feel like if you need a brown shoe, I got you a brown sneaker. Morgan, what do you call tennis shoes? I call them. Like if you're going to get some athletic shoes, and that's not what they're called, but what would you call them?

Go get the. My tennis shoes. Oh, we'll get you. Collie. Mike. I mean, I don't, I think I just say shoes. No, but there's a different. Let's say there's two pairs shoes.

There's dress shoes and there's an athletic shoe. I guess I would say running shoes. Yeah, because he runs. He's a runner. Lunchbox? It's tennis shoes. It's like it's definite. Well, it's not.

That is. That's what they're called. Okay, I didn't know. I was the only person that referred to them as sneakers. I will say there are like some more cutesy sneakers that I have and I do call them sneakers. But they're like more dressy sneakers. Sneakers are a thing. We're just saying it's weird based on where you live and maybe the demographic.

I think sneakers was like a 50s or 60s thing. But don't you think we should move away from tennis shoe though? because like we're not playing tennis in these things. Yeah, why are they called tennis? Probably because the first ones were made when they're playing tennis. So we should move away from that. Why? What are you going to call them in sneakers?

That's the only other option. Unless you have a good name for it, what are you going to move away from? Athletic shoe? That's harder to say. Okay, sports shoe? Why are you going to make it harder? What about AS? Okay, I think you for your story.

Eddie. Okay, so this is kind of good news. That Prime, Amazon Prime, is given away 20, off gas because gas is so expensive right now, but it's only in like certain stores. And how is that good news? How does that affect us? Like does Amazon have gas agents?

Yeah, so you can pay with your Amazon account, but it's only at like BP, Amico, Thorntons. I know for the rest of the country, but we don't have any of those here, I don't think. Oh, I think we have BP. So if you're an Amazon Prime account holder, you get this discount. But how do you pay for it? At the pump.

With what? With your Amazon app. Oh. You scan that code. You scan that code. What code? You have a QR. Whoa, whoa,

Bobby, do you not use your in-store code when you shop? When do I go in-store? Okay, well. Downstairs. The only time of Whole Foods. That's exactly where you use it. And gas pumps all have this. I don't know.

They have a scanner. Okay. And you scan that QR code and you get your discount. And that's what you'll get. Say you do go down to Whole Foods. This is for anybody in the country. Make sure you do that because then your Amazon. account will keep record of everything you bought, but not only that, stuff that's on sale,

there's sometimes at Amazon there's a sale price and then there's a prime member price. And if you're a prime member, you get the best deal. That's a whole food, is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are all across the country now. But it's, man, what's so crazy, though, is like yesterday, I saw the price change in like a 10 cents in one day. You mean gas in general?

Gas in one day. So, like, this is a big deal. Yeah. Let's box. Your story. Yeah, there was a girl in 19. 1994 in Arizona. She went out to her horse.

She was going to visit her horse. She was 13. Never to be seen again. Disappeared without a trace. Well, she has been found alive. Where was she? And they have not said for her safety where they found her. But they are just saying with new technology and new leads,

they started looking into the case. And they found the girl. Yeah, 32 years from when she disappeared to now. It's another one of these stories. we've had a few of them, and for different reasons, where somebody is found decades later. I think it's a third one in the last three weeks we've had like this. But yeah, they're not saying anything specific,

like if she was abducted, if she ran away, because there have been both of those versions of the story. There's been an abduction, but there was also the mom that ran off the kidnapping with her kid. I do finger quotes, but they change the names. But we know nothing else, right? Right, and the reason I find it interesting, they said, for her safety, we're not saying where she was or who she was with.

And I'm like, huh? Well, draw the conclusion. What do you think that means? That means that maybe she felt like she was in an unsafe environment in her house. And she went off herself? And she went off on herself. Yeah, with herself. Oh my gosh.

Can you imagine trying to. I mean, maybe she had someone that helped her, but she maybe planned it because she felt unsafe in her house and she didn't want to tell her parents, hey, I'm going because you guys, that's what I take from. They're not saying because of her safety. Was she ever abducted?

because when it happened it was without a trace so they had no idea if she was abducted she left on her own they weren't sure and so now they found her but they said for her safety they're not revealing where she was or who she was with all right there's a story going around right now it's it sounds like a movie trailer there are nine aerospace scientists they've all they're all gone so some are missing some are dead all are connected to high government or space research have you been saying this yes And we've mentioned a couple of them, but they have been all independent stories. And so the Internet's asking, you know, what do they know? So I'll walk you through this.

A group of scientists working in nuclear programs, aerospace, defense, they basically started disappearing one by one. And there was no explanation. There was no pattern just gone. And some would be, we can't find them, and some would be dead. So it's been a mix of them. And so it's classified projects. tech, UFO type stuff. So immediately it feels like these people were silenced or they knew too much. But there are actual people. For example, Neil McCaslin, he's retired Air Force. He was a general who used to

run the Air Force Research Lab, the place working on some of the most advanced tech in the country. He went missing in New Mexico in 2026. There's no clear explanation. He's gone. That's real. then you have Melissa Cassius who worked at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. She drops her kids off at daycare and then just disappears. No phone, no wallet, no keys. Gone. Working in the same area. There are a few others.

Engineers, researchers, people tied to aerospace or defense who have either gone missing, died unexpectedly or been involved in accidents that feel off. And so the Internet's been going crazy. Nine, you know, the nine scientists have disappeared. That's a lot. You give me three of those and I'm going to be like, okay, coincidence. Nine. Different states, different circumstances, but not wholly different outcomes because they're gone.

They're wiped off. And they all kind of do the same thing. They work in the same area. So still unsolved, super creepy. There's a scientist named Carl Grilmeier who was killed. Now, police arrested a suspect. I don't know. That one feels like that guy got caught and he was put up to killing the dude.

That's just me. Mm-hmm. So it's wild especially because you had a former congressman on the news last week saying that he was briefed and he was told there was a project where they were breeding human and non-human figures and there were partial people in America that had part. Well, I use the word alien. That's not what they used. Like alien blood in them. And then you had another congressman getting interviewed and he's like, I've been briefed. I can't say anything about that.

I can't even say he's wrong or right. Wow. This is like a TV show. So you're not saying the word alien, but... That's really not the word they use anymore because it triggers little green men. But humans... Non-human. Being breeded with non-human.

Yeah. Whoa. That is like a movie. All these people are disappearing. There's nine. Nine folks that have disappeared in the last couple of years. Either just gone or murdered and they all exist in that same. sphere of nuclear,

aerospace, UFO, it's all in that. Are you leaning towards government? Yeah. Or, of course. Aliens. No, government. 100%. Our government.

Has this been too much weird stuff happened? Like Amy said, one or two things? Okay. Nine? I will clarify what I think about our government. It's a part of our government we don't know. And what I think of is on scandal, they had something called B-16.

or B-13 or something like that. And it was a whole part of the government that nobody knew about, but it was running the show. So you had the president, but really B-whatever, was running everything. Based on reports from late March and early April 2026, a former U.S. representative has claimed he was briefed by senior enlisted men in the U.S. Army about a secret government program involving non-human and human hybrid breeding.

He claimed the whistleblower informed him that Captured extraterrestrials were being forced to breed with humans who had been abducted from war zones and migrate caravans to build a hybrid race. There were breeding locations. This sounds so wild and you would go, that's crazy except it is a former congressman. And then secondly, there have been nine people that have died or are now missing. Breeding locations, the purpose, the alleged goal of the program was to create a hybrid race capable of intergalactic communication. non-human, they further allege that CIA had examined crashed craft containing non-human biologics, which I've heard that many times.

So, crazy. It's wild. That part, again, seems crazy, and it's all going to seem crazy until it's not. They want full disclosure. We're never going to have that. But the part that is real is those nine people all disappeared or died. Weird. And it was one or two, I brought it up.

I think there were two. I brought it up on this show. That's weird. One's in California. They really don't have anything to do with each other except they work in the same area. One's dead. One's gone. Now, seven more.

So you tell me if that seems right. It's definitely weird. And just for the sake of it, I have to do this. And I don't know why my brain can't ever remember. But the Black Obs group from scandal is B613. And this is exactly the type of stuff. I mean, it's just stuff you never know about. And the president doesn't have a hand in it.

The vice president, they're just running things. and globally things are happening. So I just feel like there's something behind the curtain of our government that could be involved in something like that. The problem with that is you're referencing scandal, a fictional television show. I know. Now, those shows are often built, and there are real things used to make the storylines there. But when you're going, it's like scandal.

It does run a bit of credibility. I guess I'm just saying it's a group like B613, which the people don't know about. And a lot of people in the government don't even know about. But it's happening and there's strings being pulled. And sometimes it could be in a form of blackmail or it could just be in a form of we run the show and you know that we do. So stand down or basically you'll end up dead. The CIA was a version of what you're saying long ago

when they were doing all kinds of tests on folks and nobody believed they were real. And now we know they were real. Yeah. So that's my story. That's crazy. Yeah, the nine people gone's crazy. It's almost, what's weird, though, is I'm sitting here thinking it's crazy.

And then I'm like, yeah, it's definitely true, though. So which makes it, like, not that crazy anymore because there's so much crazy. I mean, I think that Jeffrey Epstein situation is something probably non-American, but definitely he was working as an asset for a group, an unknown group, very similar to what you're talking about. And he would find rich and powerful men in their area. is that they could influence and he would offer them this life that they couldn't have on their own even with all the access and money and then he had him he would record them he had him blackmailed if you had to put money on him being dead or alive what would you do it doesn't really great question

alive same same which is which also seems crazy but they're not how much money would you put on that well i mean if they said here's a three thousand dollars bet and we'll have out your, yeah, I would go alive. Yeah. There's too many weird things about all of that. And alive, but I definitely don't think he killed himself. If he is dead, he was killed. But I would think he's alive somewhere.

Yeah, I agree. With other governments involved, like you said. It's not just like, oh, well, blame this president or this president. It's not even about the current political, it's not even about the current people in politics now. goes so far back. Except he's got all the people in politics now having sex with kids. And nobody's been arrested. Oh, yeah. There's that. Yeah. Well, you know, Pam Bondi did lose her job. She didn't get arrested, but she wasn't involved in the EFstein files. Like, she wasn't in them. And it's not even like, it's like, oh, this, you're getting let go because you handled it this way.

It's like, oh, you're being transferred to a different position. You served America well. And it's like, did you? I don't even think that was about the Epstein files. I think that was the Eric Stalwell situation. Yes, because she. She was friends with him. He's a Democrat. And it was going to be He was with a Chinese spy as his, like, that's his romantic partner, and that was going to come out, so she tipped him off. Yeah. Eddie, this is the cross-dressing? No, no, no.

That's Christine. I can't keep up. I know. It's too much. Well, it would be like if you, if Bobby is in a certain position and he knows that you're about to, something's about to happen to you, and he would give you a heads up. And then someone in our company would have to go to Bobby and be like, dude, you can't, you can't do that.

I have to transfer you out of your job now. That happens in sports. What do you mean? Sports were like the head coach knows that somebody's doing something and they cover up for them and And they lose their job. Yeah. Then they end up getting fired, right? Yeah.

Like what? Like Ohio State? No, but they didn't. Penn State, Penn State? No, she said, she said heads up. This is, you're something. It's going to happen. She gave him a heads up of what was going to be happening.

And legally she can't do that. And they're not even on the same side. He's a Democrat. He's just her friend. Oh, okay. Yeah. So no, not really. Okay.

Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, it's a little different. I'm okay. Representative Eric Stallwell has been involved in a long-standing controversy regarding his past association with Christine Fang, a suspected Chinese intelligence operative. Fang reportedly targeted Swalwell during his time. Da, da, da, da, da, da. In 2015, the FBI provided him with evidence on and on.

They found no wrongdoing, but again, the Pambandi firing comes up because reports from April 2nd, 2026 reports the former Attorney General Pam Bondi. was fired by President Trump partly because he believed she tipped off Swalwell about the impending release of these files. He has consistently maintained that he was a victim of an espionage attempt rather than a willing participant. Well, they were romantic, right? Feng? Yeah.

I believe so, too, but I just want to make sure before I say that. Christine Feng. And then it's weird to think about Chinese operatives being here and Russian operatives being here because they are, absolutely. Again, it's just all like one big TV show. It says whether Representative Swalwell and Christine Fang had a romantic or sexual relationship has not been definitively proven, though it has been a central point of speculation and political attack. Yeah. So if it were me just guessing they probably did it.

Right. I'm just guessing that probably did it. A little nicky. All right. Morgan, you have a story? I do. There is a Barbie Fry Festival that just kind of happened in Florida. What did you call it?

Fry Festival. Fire. Fire. festival. It's spelled FYRE, but it's Fire Festival. It's the one that they try to put together. The one that never happened? Yes. Yeah. Got it. So it was called Barbie Dream Fest. It was supposed to be this convention for all Barbie lovers. And everybody paid about $500 for an all inclusive ticket package. And when they showed up, like they were supposed to have an experience with Barbie's dream house and have all these different photo ops. Well, Bobby's Dreamhouse was a cardboard cut out.

And then, you know, like, those things that they have on the marathon to start or run, like the big arches, the blow-up arches? They basically had like three of those and a bunch of balloons, and those were the pop-ups. I saw the video. It looked like a convention center. It was empty. So bad. It was very empty in the middle. Then every 20 feet, there was like another homemade version of a Barbie dream house.

It's very poor. I feel like this happens all the time. Like a couple years ago, there was one with a Lego or something, Lego Fest or something. This happens. I remember when I worked in the news a long time ago, and somebody sent me out to the festival, and there was nothing there. One festival. It was some kind of music.

It was like a folk festival in this big pasture, and the whole thing was all the bands showed up, and there was no one there. People or stage? No, no, like, administrative. People like running it. Like, there was no stages, no setup. People with like vendors, you know, with like popcorn machines showed up and there's like, there's nowhere for us to be. Is that everybody's story?

Yeah. Yeah. Everybody good. All right. We're going to go to Dan and Shay now. Here you go. Happy Pride Months, Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space to celebrate your existence.

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Yes, sir. Rape a murder for a child. She's as bad as it gets. I would think so. People wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevette and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum.

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Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas. We've here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Niall Horne is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it?

You know, or our taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. On the Bobby Bones Show now. Dan and Shay. Good to see you guys.

Do people still confuse you ever? Do you go on a place and they don't know which one's Dan? Which one's Shay? 100%. Still? After all this time? People think it's a clever comment on social media. It's like you come to our page.

We stand in the order. I got to check. Okay, we're on this wall right here. In the pictures, do you do in order? We have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, you got to make sure, no matter what. We stand like that on stage.

But people think it's clever when they see us on socialists. I still don't know which one's Dan and which one's shake. Cool, man. I ask that. Because I saw that it's been like 10 years since you guys first started to do like music in town, like single or album or whatever. It's been 10 years. Decade feels like forever because we've been here at that amount of time,

too, a little more than that. but I didn't know if people still were like, are you lady anabellum? You know, like, are you, which one's Dan? Which one's Shay? That still happens to you guys. It's a bit for people. I just think it's like one of those ice breakers they think,

like, oh, that's a good way for me to like go up to them at the airport. Which one's Dan? Which one's Shay? Oh, he's so annoyed. All right, Susan. Here's my other question that's so old school because I feel like we've talked so many times. Sometimes I forget to ask even the most basic questions. Is your real name Dan?

It is. Well, it's Daniel. Okay. Is your own name's Shay? It is. What the heck is a Shee? I'm not sure. You know, I think the meeting was lost long ago. Do you really not know? No, I honestly have no idea. But my first, it's an acronym, actually. You know what? I didn't know Bobby, you came in here.

You're just trash in my name. No, I just didn't know if it was short for something. No, not that I know all year is the acronym, Shea. That's good. You know what I mean? I was going to say so high all year, but you know, are hot. Yes. So hot all year. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go. No, my first name is James. James Shea Mooney. And my mom never, like, I didn't find that out until maybe seven years old, but like my first name is James. I was named after my grandpa. And my mom always called me Shea. And I, I did not know that was a thing. And so everyone always says like, oh, so like James is your real name. And I'm like, no, it's, it's not a real name. Did nobody in high school call you James? No. No one ever. It was always Shea. Yeah. No one's ever called me James.

ever. Dan and James doesn't work the same. Dan and James. I think we could kind of start today. You know, Jimmy? Yeah, Jimmy. Can you imagine? Jimmy Shea, dude.

I thought it for a while when I was like, this is, this is, I've never said this out loud ever. But when I was like trying to think of cool names, like back in the day before I met Dan, I thought of like, instead of like James, I thought Shay James was kind of a cool thing. And then, you know, you had a lot of people who had like something, James and they'd already kind of take that.

I think Shay works. I didn't know that was your middle name though. Yeah. That's why I asked that. Jay James kind of does work. Yeah. It's pretty solid. Jimmy Shea goes crazy too.

That's like a 2004 country singer. Jimmy Shea is confusing because you're going one way with Jimmy and then Shay kind of comes out of like that. It's a race car driver name for sure. It's NASCAR. Jimmy Shea. It would be spelled S-H-E-A. Yeah.

It's great content here, folks. Yeah. What's up with the All-Black? I don't know, man. Oh, we didn't tell you? It's, uh, this is very, I have no idea. Is it purposeful? Kind of.

Yeah, yeah. That's why I'm asking it. Like what's? Oh, like, uh, Megan Maroni went from blue to pink. Now y'all are black. We're doing hors d'oeuvres at a dinner party after this. No, we changed it up a little bit.

You know, aesthetically, it was very like Levi's and very denim and, you know, outdoorsy kind of vibes on the last album. We're changing it up a little bit with this new brand, new sound. So, yeah, kind of intentional. Also, it's kind of like, I don't know. We've been wearing black clothes for a long time on stage, so just grab something out of the closet. Easy. What's the intention for? I don't know.

Just to kind of change. up the aesthetic a little bit. We changed the, we always like changed the plus sign color, you know, with every signaling a new era. I think we've ran out of colors at this point, so we just had to go back to black and white. But yeah, I don't know, man. We're just excited about this new chapter. It feels like it kind of took us a minute to get here. I posted a note to the fans this week that just said, appreciate the patience. I mean, because I don't know, I feel like we're in an era where people put out music like 30 songs a month. It's just the volume is crazy. We're just, we've just never really been those guys. I don't know. It takes us a little longer.

Is that because you're a perfectionist? No. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I obsess over every detail and it's maybe to a fault sometimes. I'm trying to get a little bit better about it, surrendering mixes and masters a little earlier than I used to. Yeah, man, I just feel like it's kind of a new chapter, you know, sharing the music with people along the way, letting people feel more involved.

It used to be like, I would hold onto it so precious and then it just, I don't know, kind of messed me up a little bit. So the song is Say So, I don't know, tell me about the song, we'll play it, but I need to know. You just mentioned like some intention about the song. What's up with it? Yeah, man. It's a, I feel like it's a very person. It's a different concept than we've ever done before. I feel like we're kind of known as like, they're the wedding guys. They sing songs about our

wives and we'll always do that. But this song we wrote and we weren't sure if it was ever going to come out. We sat down right with our buddies Jimmy Robbins and David Hodges one day. We were kind of just having a great week of creativity. We wrote a bunch of songs. We were out writing with this guy Brandon Lake at Dark Horse Studios, a bunch of artists. Just, I don't know, creativity was really. really happening. We were writing songs. And we sat down and, you know, you guys know Ben Vaughn, who was head of Warner Chapel Music Publishing and signed us to our first publishing deal here in

town, kind of one of the first guys to take a chance on us. The reason that we're at our record label, Warner Records in Nashville, you know, they were in the same building at the time. And we were just two songwriters. We weren't even a band. We weren't even Jimmy and Dan at the time. And he was like, man, you guys sound great singing these songs. Would you be willing to meet this guy, John Esposito, who was the head of the label at the times, who walked us upstairs, sang for Respo and the rest of history. Still at that label, still at that publishing company. But he took his life and it's just, I don't know, it wrecked a lot of us in town. I feel like a lot of people were affected and impacted by that. And we were just sharing stories about Ben and just talking it out

with the guys, just having one of those emotional days. And we were like, he was on our hearts and he was on our minds. And sorry, I get a little choked up telling this story. We haven't told it a whole lot yet but uh we were just talking about ben and we were like we should write a song about him today and it was just a heavy serious concept and again it's like not something that dan and shay would traditionally do or release but we're like we just i don't know we owe it to ourselves and we owe it to ben to see this one through sometimes you've got to get that off your chest and off your heart in the writing room and uh and we wrote a song called say so and we finished it we knew it was a special song but we we weren't sure like it would ever come out it might

have been just one of those ones that like, okay, we need to do this therapeutically to just get it, get it out there into the world. And then it just lives on a hard drive or just in our demos folder forever and be one of those things. But I got home. I played it for Abby and she was like, man, that song is incredible. Like the world needs to hear that. She's like, that's beautiful that you guys wrote that for Ben on his birthday. And we didn't know it was his birthday. The day we wrote that song, I pulled out my Facebook. Yes, I'm old. I still use Facebook. But I pulled it up and it was like, would you like to wish Ben a happy birthday? It would have been his fifth. 50th birthday that day. We had no idea when we wrote the song. And I feel like that, not to get

too spiritual on it, but that's more than coincidence to me. That song was meant to be written that day. And I don't know, I feel like while it's a heavy, serious concept and topic, I do think there's a lot of hope and optimism in the song. I don't know. It's a tough time in the world right now. You know, we deal with our own stuff. We've been open about it. I've dealt with anxiety and depression and all the things over the last few years more so probably than I ever have. You know, I openly go to therapy, I encourage it, especially guys. In this process, I learned that 80% of suicides in the United States are male, which is a pretty shocking stat. I think guys, myself included, very much so, myself included, don't do a good job of sharing their feelings and emotions. So yeah, I just,

I started going to Porter's Call, Chad at Porter's Call here in town. It's just changed my life. Yeah, and I just think it's a song that can help people, more so than anything. You know, I think it feels great. It sounds awesome on the radio. We're proud of the way it turned out. I think it sounds like a hit or whatever that sounds like, but I also think this song can help someone. And that's kind of what we said when we wanted to make this the first single off this new project. If the song doesn't ever do anything on the charts or doesn't move the needle for us, if it helps one person, if it saves one life, it was worth it. So that's kind of my long-winded explanation of say-so. And man, I'm proud of this song. And we've been proud of a lot of songs in our career, but this one,

it feels different. How are you guys getting along right now? Everything good? It's been amazing, dude. Honestly, I feel like through this, not just this song, but kind of writing, all this music that we've been writing over the last six months has been a very freeing process of just, you know, in the spirit of kind of communicating, you know, I feel like that's something that anyone who's in a band or a group or, I mean, you guys even, it's like if you don't communicate, things kind of build up over time. And we learned, you know, back in, you know, at the end of 2021, that we really had to do that first and foremost and communicate. And it's really what the the essence of this song is, you know, obviously saying something when you're going through a tough time,

but also just communicating, making sure that you're talking to your friends and checking on them. And Dan and I have been doing that better than we've ever done it in our entire career. It's been a very freeing process and allowed us to really write some songs that are from our hearts, not just getting in a room. And, you know, it's not a formulaic thing. We've been just talking and these songs have been coming out that are relating to us in our lives at this present time in a way that we've never really had in our career on this level. And it's just kind of turned into this very freeing thing

where it's like, man, this is, I'm having fun making music again in the process of making music. And I think that starts at just with us, you know, making sure that we're communicating and being like, man, this is, this really is the craziest thing that we get to do this for a living

and making sure that we're on the same page, you know, and it's just been, I just been really fun. Honestly, I've had more fun in this album process than we've ever had. in our entire career, honestly. Do you start to get restless if you're not on the road? Kind of, yeah, kind of.

We haven't played a proper show in a long time. We're about to start doing that a little bit. I feel like it is hard, though, when you're out of motion to get back into motion. I think once we're back in motion right now, it's been super busy. I feel like that's at least for me, I kind of thrive in that space. I know you're the same way. I mean, you're always doing something, always working. I feel like when you've got momentum, it's easier to stay moving.

but when you get stagnant for a while, like after COVID or whatever, to try to pick it back up and be like, oh, we got to go to a show. It's kind of tough to get out of that space. But now that we're moving, I feel like we're rocking and it's easier to stay moving. But yeah, I'm excited to get out and play, I mean, especially say-so. We've been rehearsing it all week and it just feels awesome. I feel like it's going to be one of those moments in the show that, I don't know. We don't have that kind of song in our set.

And to get to play it live, I feel like it's going to be cool. Do you get nervous that nobody will come when you go back out? Because I do every single time. Every time. Every time. Like, that's a real fear where you're going. We've been out for a while. This is me, not you.

Do people even care anymore? Like, that's how I feel. Like, I don't even know if I want to make myself that vulnerable. Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, my group chat and I, we joke about, like, concept of this tour is on unforeseen circumstances watch, you know? You don't want your tour to be on unforeseen circumstances. We thought about, like, just going right at it, naming the tour, the Unforeseen

circumstances watch tour. If we cancel. Yeah. Please, fans, do not let our tour go on unforeseen circumstances. For everybody out there. guys have had. You still have that insecurity of, I don't know, will people still come? Every time, man, I don't think that ever goes away as an artist. Like, we all care a lot. You know, you grow up and I think even more so sometimes when you've been doing it for a while,

because when you're kind of caught up in that and you have some success, you know, these things happen, you know, and the shows are crazy. And I think when you've been doing it for a while, you have that realization of, well, this doesn't last forever for everybody. You know what I mean? And sometimes, like, it just, things change. You know, time goes by. and I think every artist kind of has that, especially because you care. Like I think the fans probably, they have that perspective of like, oh, you guys have had success, you've done this. Like, why do you care, you know, about this?

And it's like, that never changes. That spark of, you know, of wanting to do this for a living and getting to do it on the highest level never goes away. I mean, I always think about like professional sports players, like whether it be NFL or NBA, like they have that short window where they're able to play professionally. And that's got to be such a hard transition. and we're lucky because we can do music. There's a lot of us in the community who are still singing at 90 years old,

which is an amazing thing. But you always kind of have that in the back of your mind of like, are people going to like come and to the shows and do they care about this music, especially now more than ever? Like with all the AI stuff and people's attention spans or three seconds, it's like, man, this is so like, is it irrelevant that we even do this? Is it matter? And I think that's a song like this to me is so important,

especially for us where it's like, man, it doesn't, we've finally gotten back to that place. Like it truly doesn't matter if this is like our biggest song. We want it to be. Obviously, we're going to do everything we possibly can to make sure as many people, you know, can hear this song, especially because it's this message. And it's like if one person hears this and it changes their life, that truly was worth it. And living in that place is very freeing where it's like, all right, we're doing what we're supposed to be doing right now. And we can't control anything besides that. You know, we can't control if this song is successful,

but we can't control the process of that and making sure we do. We're putting out songs that mean something to us because I'm willing to down that hill of like, all right, we took this, you know, we did exactly what we were supposed to do here and what we were called to do. And that's, that is what it is what happens after that, you know? Where do you stand with it? I mean, you've accomplished so much. I'm flipping the script right now.

All of these, like doing shows or coming in here and doing this. I mean, you guys, it's a, you guys are here early every day. Like, what's your why at this point? You know, is it... I got a baby now. Yeah. For sure. You got to make sure you need.

But you guys have such an amazing thing and you've done it for so long. I feel like the process, you know, even though it's probably hard at times, it's like, this is a beautiful thing. I'm just showing respect to you guys. I mean, I know we need it. Goof around a lot. Don't we guys. Thank you.

But, like, y'all have done this together for a long time and that's awesome. You know what I mean? That you guys, it's hard to keep a group together for this long. I mean, it's hard to keep a duo together. It's like you guys are doing something right. And it's, I don't know, Shay mentioned the AI thing. all the advancements in the future and technology and all the things, man. It's about like finding joy in the process too.

Like getting to come in here, spend time with people you love. I'm getting corny. It's early in the morning. Well, this is awkward. This is our last show. It is. I teed it up, man. I tears the announcement.

They didn't even know. We actually had a huge fight. Yeah. I could feel it, guys. Our fight was, which one's Dan? Which one's today? Yeah, yeah. That's the whole thing.

We still don't know. Honestly, that's the thing. We do a segment on our show called Tell Me Something Good. So from your personal lives right now, I'd like to hear something good that's happening to you. Share, you go first. Oh, man, so many things. Honestly, I feel so, honestly, I was telling the truth when I said, like this process of kind of making all this music. I have found kind of, I guess, my why again.

Obviously, I have four amazing kids and my wife and all these incredible things in my personal life. But all of that has, it feels like it's kind of come together with the kind of music that we're making, you know, what it means to us. and it feels like for the very first time, it's like, okay, all these worlds have collided. And that's a really a crazy thing. You know, we're not the guys that are, you know, singing pick up songs, you know, like, it's not that we can't ever do those songs,

but like it feels like this music is exactly where we're at in our lives right now. And that's a very exciting thing. My six-year-old Ames got three hits the other day, live pitch and baseball. It's pretty huge, huge news. Y'all can cover it in the sports segment if you'd like. I got some videos, but,

But it's exciting, man. I feel like those, we get to do this for a living and it's amazing. But there was a lot of years where it was like, okay, I have this life and then we go out on the road and it's this thing. And I get to, you know, play this character. It truly feels like in this new era, if you will, it feels like all those things have blended together. And I'm just having more fun than I ever have where it's just like, this is really a cool

thing. Is there, I'm sure there is, but walk me through, you have one kid, but you go one to two. what's the dynamic difference from one to two? I think that's the biggest change is one to two. In one, especially like in our lives. Like with one, with Asher, our oldest, he's nine now. We were playing like 250 shows every year and it was like really crazy and I wasn't a hum a lot.

The second with Ames, he was born two weeks before COVID. So like I had all the time in the world, which is like a big struggle because I didn't know what to do with myself. I didn't know how to balance that. But I think that the. second, the biggest dynamic change was the first one. You're terrified all the time. I remember having... That's where we are now. Like, is she breathing? Is she breathing? Yeah, is she a lot? Yeah, yeah. You know, that was literally the first probably six months was just me in a full-blown

panic. And mainly my wife, because we were on the road a lot. But literally, you're just kind of looking over like, are they alive? I can't believe they let me take this human baby home, you know, on like the first day they were born. With no instructions. With no instructions. Like they trust us with it. That's crazy. They trust us. Which is like, like you shouldn't you shouldn't I don't think and you get home and you're like well what do I do with it now for like for a minute you're like what do I do now like where does it go it's terrifying but second you're like I mean by your third you know if you have more than more than two you're just like anything goes or it's like oh they're fine let the first one raise the third one it's like

old 1800 farming days yeah my fourth I think he's doing good I don't know we've been letting the kids kind of do that one but it's it's really fun dude I think the the first is is very scary but it also it's the greatest thing in the world man it like you know time goes on and you kind of get that confidence like all right i've changed a bunch of of poops and we're already like you already start to feel like you're killing like my dad never once in his whole and my dad was amazing my dad never changed a diaper not one i've changed i'm up in the millions at least in the millions i mean the amount of poop that i've changed is it should be in the guinness world book of records i'm surprised that i'm not as grossed out by it yeah as i am and at first i was scared of it and

little grossed out, but at this point, it's just how do we do it efficiently? Yep. Thoroughly. Yep. Because you don't want to deal with any of the infections or, and also it was a girl and that was weird for me. Yeah. I was just like, I don't know if I should, but now it's just like, just take care of it.

Yep. But yeah, we're still on the stage of making sure it's breathing. How's Caitlin? She's breathing. She's great. She's awesome. Yeah. It's the most athletic thing I've ever seen her do was have a baby.

It's crazy. It's amazing. Yeah. Tell me something good, Dan. Let's see, our dog Joy. who we named, you know, you guys Pimp and Joy. That was over 10 years ago. I would think it was like 12 years ago.

We adopted Joy during Pimp and Joy Week, named her Joy in Joy's honor. And, yeah, she's still rocked. She got diagnosed with cancer over two years ago, has gone through two major surgeries, seven rounds of chemo, and she's had lesions removed, but she's still with us, which is a beautiful thing. And I'm very grateful for every day that we could spend with her. She's getting older, but she's still bossy as ever and walks five miles a day. and I don't know.

Just every time we get a clear scan back is beautiful. That's awesome. Just learning to appreciate those things like that, those moments a little bit more than we used to. I think it's just a process of getting older. Oh, congratulations, guys. I hope you get what you want to get out of this project and song. And like you said, you did this one for a different reason.

And if it blows up, that's awesome. And if it doesn't, you still have a reason for why you did it. Yeah, super pumped to see whatever's happening with you guys next. Obviously, we're all getting older. so we're doing things that probably matter to us a little more. Like why do something now if it doesn't matter? So it feels like this matters to you guys. It does, man.

I think more than any song has, I mean, obviously they're like your kids. You write these songs and they all mean something to you in different ways. But this new music, it's extra special because I do think that you, with time, you know, and a little bit of wisdom and maybe dumb luck, you fall into this place where it's like, all right, why do anything if it doesn't matter? And I think especially in this world, we're so distracted and things are just kind of, they're flippant and they don't mean much to us. We're always scrolling on our phones. And I think that's where I want to be in my life. I want to be spending time with people that matter to me in community. I think that's a big thing. Like, obviously,

that's not exactly what this song is talking about, but it is in a lot of ways where, you know, when you have a community, like we've kind of lost that in ways in our society where it's like, you know, things are just very passive and we don't have, you know, we know a lot of people on Instagram and we kind of like, you know, we see these things and we're kind of very passive with our friendships. I think community, just like what you guys have right here, that's, this matters. I think that AI can only take over so much. You can, you'll never be able to replace community and the people that are around. You know, I think we learned that with, with COVID when we weren't able to see people like community matters. And I think that, you know, making sure we,

emphasize that in our lives and making sure that we're writing things and putting out things into the world that make the world a better place and that matter to us. And I think if it matters to us, I think in turn, the people who have grown up listening to our music and it meaning something to them, it'll mean even more to them if it means, you know, that much to us on a deep level. I feel that right now. So yeah, man, I'm excited and appreciate you having us, dude. I'm pumped you guys came in. Last question. Do you guys do encores? We do. We do. How do you feel about them? And what song do you normally do? Do you save like the biggest song for your encore? Yeah, yeah. We save speechless and tequila usually. I feel like we do it for years. So you pretend you're going to leave without singing the songs. Yeah. You got to create a little drama. You got to create a little drama. Usually because we get like contracted to play for 90 minutes and we're like at the 82 minute mark. We got to buy ourselves an extra couple minutes of the check clears, you know? It's like it helps you extend that ending. And so you walk off and then you wait, I mean, because they must get loud for those.

Have you ever not came back? We've thought about it. I saw it happen once. Really? Yes, I saw it happen once. Who was it? It was the fray. So they were doing our show, and this is a long time ago, and I'm a massive fan of the fray.

So can you believe they're torn without the singer? Just the guitar player's a singer now. That's crazy. Yeah. And so they go back and they do, you know, how to save a life. And they do all their songs, right? And they, and the crowds, just kind of mid. And I watched them come back to.

side stage and go, nah, and they went back. Did they turn the lights up? Did they leave anything on the table, like cable car or something? Like, what did they? They did leave a song that they didn't play. But I respected it because their encore was what they were going to go. Let's go see if we like it. And if we do, we'll go back out.

And if not, we don't. And they went, nah, and they said, turn the lights up, lights went up, everybody went out. I love that. It was awesome. It was awesome. Don't give us any ideas. Yes. Great to see you guys.

Congratulations. Thank you guys. And congratulations on the song, Say So Dan and Shay here on the Bobby. on show. Good job. All right. Thank you, everybody. We will see you guys on Monday. Have a good weekend. Go back and hear any of the episodes that you missed all this week. If you missed the lunchbox getting on prices right. If you want to go back another week, you know, whenever my baby was born, you can check that podcast out. And that's it. Again, have a good one. Be safe. We'll see you guys Monday.

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