The Bobby Bones Show - Hobbies, Red Flags & Why Amy May No Longer Be Datable (5th Thing)

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Next time something rubs you the wrong way, ask yourself: "Is this a red flag, or is it just something I don’t like?" Amy & Kat talk about how now not everything we call a red flag is actually a red flag. Sometimes, it’s more like an orange flag and it could turn red, sure, but it could also turn green!! Don't miss out on something awesome because of an ick! Speaking of red flags, Amy also opens up to Kat about her silly personality lately...she shares some very weird conversations she's been having lately and they wonder if Amy will be datable after all of this.  A listener, Melissa, emailed us our quote: “Every time I think I have a new hobby it turns out I just like to buy stuff.” Here's the Pottery Kit that Kat was talking about!  Email: [e-mail] HOSTS: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy Kat Vanburen // @KatVanburen // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast // YouNeedTherapyPodcast.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Amy. And I'm Kat. And today's quote comes from one of our listeners, Melissa, who emailed it to us. She said, Hey, Amy, I just saw this quote and thought about your recent episode with Kat. I think it's because we were talking about hobbies. Like Kat has all kinds of hobbies. Right now she's doing everybody's nails, like everybody in Nashville. You need your nails done.

Go over to Kat's kitchen. It will take me three hours. But it's looking good. Yeah, she does painting classes also in her kitchen and soon to be pottery classes. She'll tell us more about that in a minute because she just ordered a pottery kit. But Melissa sent us this quote, every time I think I have a new hobby, it turns out I'd just like to buy stuff. And I was like, oh, yeah. And I was just unboxing things before Kat got to my house.

And my face cupping tool came in the mail. I am still doing face fitness. It's not a hobby. It's a lifestyle. And my cupping tool is like, you know, apparently I haven't even used it yet. I just pulled it out of the box. And it's going to like suction to my face. How does, are you just supposed to stick it on your face and leave it there?

No, you do like, have you ever had a cupping done on your body or seen it done? I've seen it. I've never personally needed it. For whatever reason, I'm not an Olympian, but I've had cupping done before. And it's like glides across the face and like suction. And then you do it to your forehead. But I know there's rules. Like this is a bigger cup and I'm only supposed to use it on certain parts of my face.

And then there's a smaller cup that you use elsewhere. I don't know. But this is my algorithm now because what I talk about and everything that pops up in my for you page or whatever is face fitness. Interesting. We have very different. algorithms, but it's interesting because face fitness is something that you really could do with yourself and no real products, but now you're probably getting targeted for all of these

fun, fun tools you can get to make your experience even better. And that's where the shopping addiction hobby comes in. I know. I could see myself ordering more tools. But that actually looks kind of cool. Yeah. And I'm not spending money on Botox. So you're saving money because that's cheaper than Botox. That is my hobby. There you go. Saving money. That's my hobby. It's a hack. Maggie, my cat is in here with us and Kat was just looking over at her therapy cat. He was looking at my cat, Maggie. And she was like, oh my gosh, she looks like a human. And I said, oh my gosh, I have to tell you what I told my boyfriend today this morning, early this morning. He had to leave for like a work trip. So he was up early and I guess his colleague, they were traveling together. And they

going to be in the car for a long time. And I don't know. For whatever reason, I was like, well, if I come up, you should just tell him that I'm nervous. I am too. Because we're going to talk about red flags, this relationship. Even thinking back on it now, the fact that he had to listen to me say this and then process it, like it might be a red flag. What did you say? Like, I don't know if later today when he gets back if I'm going to have a boyfriend. I said, what are y'all going to talk about? Like, y'all need to talk about interesting things. Like, if I come up, like, you should, you could tell him about me, but you should tell him that I was raised by cats. And see what he says. And I'm like, and don't budge. Just go with it. Be like, yeah, she was raised by cats. And he's going to say,

like, people named cat or actual cats. And then you should just, with a straight face as possible. just be like, no, cats, she was raised by cats. Okay, I'm another potential red flag question. It also has to do with my cat. Did you do this? Maybe I'm just having in my head only to myself, though. You kept this one in. You had enough self-awareness to not say it out loud.

The fact that I did this. Okay. So I ordered some new cat food and it came in. And I was, I put the cat food in this clear Tupperware thing because when you open it up, Maggie doesn't like it if it's been, if like air has touched it for too long. Like, I guess it gets stature. for her. So I realized if I put it in an airtight container, like she'll, she doesn't get turned off by it. And cats are very picky. I'm pretty sure if they don't want what you're serving them and they

don't have access to more food, they'll just not eat with her away. But the cat food came in and there's this really beautiful cat on the packaging. And I feel like when I was opening it up to put it in the container, Maggie made this weird face. And I was like, well, that was weird. And I was like, Maggie? She's like, looked at me like, like, what? What? And I said, oh, I know what it is, Maggie Jean. And then I started this whole story. I was like, you're mad because your sister's a model now. And she's living in New York, modeling for cat food, and you are sad that you're stuck here. Wait, so this was just in your head? Well, I mean, I'm saying it to her. Oh, but nobody was around. Nobody was around. Okay. I'm like, you're just having conversations in your head to your cat. But it was this whole thing about how her sister is the cat model for this cat food.

And she's mad. Because she's living here. She's living here. And her sister's living her best life modeling for this cat food company in New York City. And Maggie can't even go outside. Like she's, she can't even. She can't even go outside. So what a sad life you live.

I know. But is that weird? Did you do these kinds of things before you had a cat? I don't know. I just feel like I've been doing weird things lately. Like, here's another one. My son, he woke up and walked into the hall. Like, we were waking up.

It was morning time. And then I looked at him and I was like, I go, what year is it? And he was like, 2025. And I was like, oh, okay. I was like, I don't know. I'm just seeing like electricity. And there's all these machines. And I have this machine in front of me that's like,

weeping and it's got time on it, all this stuff. And he's looking at me and he's like, what is wrong? And then we go down to the kitchen and I'm like, what is this machine? And it's the dishwasher. And he's like, what is happening? And I'm like, Stevenson, I swear, like we're over by the laundry stuff now too. And I'm like, what is this? And I'm like, I swear when I went to bed, like, we used to have to hang dry our clothes. And then with the toilet, I was like, I used to have to just go out into the yard and do all. What was he saying? He just was like, Mom, you're crazy. You're crazy. And I was like, I went to bed and it was 1,800 something. And now you're telling me it's 2025. And I mean, I kept it up for a little bit. I mean,

he just kept looking at me. But he thought once I was, he realized I was just totally joking with him. Like, he died laughing. And I'm like, you know, I think there's just something to just play. Like, even with our kids, he's 14. But he was able to giggle with me. And then he started being like, okay mom and I hope that that encourages him to play more I mean obviously when I start talking to Maggie about her model cat sister she can't play back with me because she's a cat or laugh with you because she's a cat I do think that maybe there's something inside of me that just wants to play I don't know I had a brain appointment last week did it unlock something but also do you think you're just in a lighter mood lately maybe because of some of just your life

circumstances. I do wonder though. Like I had my neurofeedback checkup appointment and I wonder if it just sort of unlock something that's like be playful. Yeah. Have conversations with yourself more so than you do. Like in the next level because I've always sort of talked to myself. But now I'm just talking to other people as I'm talking to myself. Right. So anyway, are these red flags? Depending on the person they could be. but maybe they're green flags for who you're dating. Yeah, because he likes them. Says things like, you're funny. Yeah, and he means it.

And I'm not saying that any of this stuff is like hilarious, funny, ha ha, but more just like you're funny, like you're ridiculous. Like you don't take life too seriously. Not like you're crazy. Like this feels in alignment with me. But I don't think I could have done this stuff like first date. No, I think if you did that, if you told him that you were raised. Well, actually, that could have been really funny.

If you did it to him on a first date and he was like, so tell me about your childhood. And you're like, well, I was raised by a cat. Cats. Cats. Multiple cats. I was raised by cats. It could have been funny, depending on the person. Or it could have been like, oh, I went on this date with this girl. She told me she was raised by cats.

I didn't know what to say. Well, I think that leads perfectly into the conversation of not everything is a red flag. Because you said it could end up being good. Like, it could be warning, but then it could be good of like, maybe this is a sign you need to loosen up. like why are you taking life so seriously? What's wrong with me getting up and acting like when I went to sleep, it was 1898? I always wanted to live in the Gilded Age.

Wait, was it you that I was just looking up what the Gilded Age was? Yeah, we talked about it on a recent episode because I love that show, the Gilded Age. Oh, yes, yes, yes. But I said I for sure needed to be part of high society, but like the nice ones. Because there's really snobby, mean ones, but I just want to, I want the amenities. because life back then was a little rough. Hard. Yeah.

Yeah. I think depending on when it comes to red flags, green flags, yellow flags, there are some things like, okay, that you need to pay attention to. But most of the things that people call red flags are just dependent on who the person is. Wouldn't you agree? Like it would be a red flag for you, but not a red flag. For me, some things. Yeah.

I just think that it's another one of those buzz things we see on social a lot. Speaking of algorithm, like a lot of times you can just be fed a bunch of red flag. flag stuff and then it makes you start to think that certain things are red flags when it could turn you away from a relationship with someone and then you're missing out yes and I think when when that thought of it turning you away when you're thinking about that then you are clocking all of the weird things that you don't like versus paying attention to all the things that you do like. Let's be more about what we're for not what we're against yeah sure I love that but I also do like talking about people's red flags But okay, I agree.

Sometimes that can be entertaining. I just think the main conversation is not everything. Not everything is. Yes. For example, I dated somebody who refused to wear deodorant when they worked out. Only when they worked out? Only when they worked out. They would put it on.

They would put it on after? They would put it on after. But they refused to wear deodorant when they worked out because in swore. that sweat doesn't smell. It only smells after it's dry. So it would be a waste of deodorant to wear it while you're working out because it wouldn't, you're not going to stop you from sweating mostly because you're going to sweat anyway. And it's not going to smell until later. So I guess they thought they're like, you know, pulling one over on the deodorant industry and saving a bunch of money. I thought it was very strange. And we continued to argue about that.

forever but that was not a reason to end that relationship it was a it was weird not a red have he done the cost analysis of a bar of deodorant like like all by the deodorant because i'm trying to even it's like less than a penny well i even was like i'll pay for the deodorant if you just want to wear it and it was like one of those things you're just like no this is a hill i'm going to die on i'm not wearing deodorant when I work out. I never understood why they were so stuck on that where they wouldn't budge. I'm like, if it just makes me happy, just put the adjutant on. But he didn't smell. Yeah, I have to admit, his sweat, he didn't smell when he worked out. So it was hard for me to really have a point because he was right. But I looked it up. Sweat doesn't smell until it is

either mixed with the air or dry. I don't know. But like actual sweat doesn't have a smell. Like Maggie's food. When it mixes with air, it's disgusting. I swear my, if I don't wear deodorant, when I work out, I swear I can't like, I don't want to be around myself. So it was very weird that I was like, well, maybe, I don't know. He has something this works for him. Anyway, one of my old hobbies used to be that I would make my own deodorant.

I gave up on that hobby because I started just buy the deodorant that was the exact same ingredients because I do a natural one. and I love the one I'm getting, I've gotten it for years. I can't think of the name right now though. I've been primarily pure kind for a while. I've never tried that. Well, I didn't like it because it turned all my, it was like they're charcoal deodorant,

but it turned my like bras because it was like all natural so it started getting like white on my like clothes. Oh, I just thought of my. So then I bought the aluminum kind. Well, you were saying that. No, milk, no, don't do that. No, go back. Milk and honey is the brand of mine and I do the vanilla one.

but yeah i used to get my own all my own little ingredients and i would whip up my own deodorant was it like a sticker like did you just no i just keep it in a jar and just put it in my fingers and then put it on okay he really wouldn't be wearing that deodorant it was awesome though i mean literally the kind of buying the reason why i'd like to buy it better is whatever i was doing it would just melt all the time like especially if it was hot out like in my little jar and maybe i had too much coconut oil. However, they're whipping this up, it stays at least. But that was just for smell, not for sweat. So it would make your armpits smell better, but you're not going to stop yourself from sweating. I guess. I think that's what the aluminum does. No, that's the antiperspirant.

Right. So that's what stops you from sweating, antiperspirant. But what's the aluminum? That's what they put in. You can't get an antiperspirant without aluminum. That's just deodorant makes you not smell, but if it's an antipersment deodorant, it stops you from sweating as much. too. Okay. I used to use that stuff way back in the day, which who knows what kind of stuff that was doing for me. No, no, no, not that. The, the, you'd buy it at the drugstore and you'd roll it on and it would stop you from sweating. The clinical strength. Yes. Well, I think a lot of people use that kind of stuff when they're growing up because through puberty, like your armpits sweat a lot. Oh, you know, fun fact about me. Oh, are you going to brag about not having sweaty armpits?

No. Actually, just going to say, I hate the word armpit. I like, you know, Underarm. Yeah, it does sound better. Yes. Like just now when you said it, I was like, oh, cringe. And I was watching a TV show the other day. What show was it that I was watching? And they said armpit.

Maybe it was younger. She said something about her armpit. And I was like, oh, don't say that. How dare you say that word? Underarm does sound much better. Yeah, just something about armpit. Yeah. It's not that.

So, I don't know. Red flag if you say armpit. Don't say armpit around Amy. I don't like moist either, but I think I. That word doesn't dislike armpit more. Oh, I just said it. I don't like saying it. I'm sorry.

It was also a delayed response. I realized you said it. Yeah, because then I'm like, oh, why am I saying it? And then to anybody else that has an aversion to that word, oh, maybe it's because the cats that raised me, they don't have. Arm pits, they have underarms. They have under legs. Or they have two underarms.

and then under legs would you call that an arm i think that she has four legs what no i guess that is how it just depends on how we look at it but i see have dogs have arms and legs and cats what wait am i wrong i'm sure you're right i'm sure you're right i just have always looked at them as like cats and dogs don't have arms no they well they have their arms and their legs they have hind legs and then how do you say okay you would say the front leg sure Yeah. Okay. That's fine if you want to talk about pets that way, but I'd like to say that they have arms. This whole episode's a red flag. Like, don't date me. Well, you're the one raised by cat, so I guess you know what they want their front legs to be called.

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So when we stop looking at everything as a red flag, and this could be in any human, we're talking about dating, but it could be in any relationship. It could be in a friendship or a work relationship. If you pause and not look at everything as like this red flag and maybe see it as beige or maybe it eventually becomes endearing, right? And you like it about them. This makes room for personal growth. It could be something that this person literally outgrows. Or you maybe need to grow. It leaves room for growth for all. Because it could be something like this is like a season of their life depending on how they're behaving like for whatever reason the last week i've just been more silly don't judge me for my little games this last week that are playful i don't know i've never had any of

these conversations before in my life sure no i've never made up a story about you know the cat on the cat food bag i've not ever pretended like i was born in another century and i have never asked a man to tell his co-worker that I was raised by gas. We're going to get all these emails being like, I went on a date with Amy and she told me she was raised by gas. No, no, no, no, no. I've never done this. Ever.

And to be fair, I wasn't going to be the one delivering the news. It was going to be him delivering it. True, true, true. Well, also, I think with red flags, things like, I'm just throwing things out there. But if you start dating somebody and maybe they aren't making a lot of money or they're in between a job or they, I don't know, just little things like,

that where people would would say like oh red flag like he just lost his job or he just quit his job or whatever some of that also is like is he building something that he quit a job that was toxic like we can't take every i mean or is he just not not want to have a job there's different degrees of that versus just looking at things as they are plainly you have to kind of zoom out and see what the bigger picture is like you're talking about talking to your cats and pretending you're a different world is she hallucinating or is she going through this phase of life where she's more silly and isn't taking life so seriously. I think we kind of narrow those things down to be things and they mean things that they aren't. Yeah, nobody comes without flaws, by the way. And I always would say that of,

I can't judge somebody that archly, maybe that's why I was with a guy that didn't wear deodorant, because I don't want somebody looking at all the annoying things that I do and been like, ooh, she did this or her hair was cut this way or she wore this type of. of shoe. Like, people can get really picky with that stuff. Yeah. But like, oh, they wear flip flops. And it's like, that's not a reason to not date somebody.

You might not like the flip-lops, but am I not going to throw away the opportunity to get to know somebody because I don't like their style? Okay, that just reminds me about this one guy right out of college that I went on a date with and he wore a white belt. And I was like, I can't. I can't go out with him again. Why? I saw it as a red flag, but clearly I needed to mature.

Was a white belt like a, you just had an aversion to white belts? I thought he was really cute. He's the guy. I was at the gym and going to the parking lot and he stopped me in the parking lot and was like, hey, would you like to do something? Sometimes I was like, oh, you know, good old fashion meet somebody in the gym parking lot. And then they wear a white belt and ruin it. And then he wore a white belt.

Yeah. So you've grown. I've grown. Yeah. Good for you. I don't know that I would be into the white belt today. Got to be honest. Could you give them a second chance?

Yes, I don't, yes. You're like, I need to go on a day with you. Can you just not wear that belt so I can see past it? Yeah, I'd be like, this is not a deal breaker. We can work on this. I can eventually work my way into your closet and get rid of that. Sometimes I feel like with the red flags, also I think it's been rebranded as Ix, you know? You've heard that shortly.

Of course. Okay, look at me like you didn't. I know I was talking about. I'm like, you taught me a couple slang words like I cooked last week. Mm-hmm. So you have to know. I think it's become like fun to like bring these things out in a game. And then it just like creates an idea in your head.

Like if you're coming up with all these icks you have towards your partner or the person you're dating. So we need to create a game or a trend where you're finding all of the good things about somebody. The reason why I gave you the look is because I'm like, I'm unsure if I put them in the same category as red flag and icks. I think that a lot of people do. I don't think you're wrong. But I guess I was more contemplating. that in my head because I feel like an ick to me is a fraternity tattoo on your ankle and you're in your 40s now and it's like shoot dang why can you make that decision like

but would you go back out with them yes but I'd be like we're not still making bad decisions are we you know well I guess I've heard some of my clients that are younger and they're dating they've talked about like oh I was seeing this guy and then he did this thing and he gave me the I just couldn't ever see him. Okay, I guess that's, you're right. You're probably hearing more of that type of talk from that generation. Like I saw him hold an umbrella once. What?

No. What's wrong with holding an umbrella? That's my point of like, or like I saw him like run holding something and like gave me the ick. I think that's for the point where I'm like, it's funny. Some of these are funny. Like, oh, I have an ick where like I can't, I can't see a guy hold an umbrella. But then it really gets in your head.

Yeah, but still, now I'm now I am seeing the. I'm like something different than red flag like I'm seeing like red flag red flag. Red flag is like, oh, bad idea. That person is not. But is it. Versus I'm not attracted to you. Right. So I guess my ick was the white belt.

Yes. It gave me the ick. It gave me the ick. So now we're sorting this out. The red flag is that she thinks she was raised by cats. We're millennials. We're trying to figure this out. So the ick is the stupid little stuff that's like, ugh, ick.

but red flag sometimes what we want to encourage you to do all of us to do is not everything's a red flag is like if there is even something you notice it's like seems to be like a character thing but if you put it into perspective of were they responding to something in this moment that's very contained to this or is this overall who they are yes like that's where yes that's you put that so perfectly i did yeah learned it from my cat. I was going to say probably you, cat, you being cat. I'm sure you probably said it that way at some point.

You're the therapist. I don't know. You put that pretty nicely where, yeah, if you zoom out, is this a character thing or is this just in the moment something that's happening? And I don't think you need to ignore your gut like in the moment. Like if you have a strong gut feeling about something, don't be like, oh, I probably need to lean into this little more just in case to see. Like if you're unsure or ever unsafe, like this like red flag, be like, is this just in the moment?

Or is he psycho? Crazy. Well, as you were saying that, I was thinking, like, if somebody texts too much, if somebody's texting you and texts you three times in a row, send a triple text, you might be like red flag. Like, he's too needy, blah, blah, blah. But what if you guys had plans and he just like was nervous because you were late and thought something happened to you? you know what I mean like is that is he really over communicative and too clingy for you or is something in the moment happening you know right that makes me think of an example of being on time for something like if it's a first or second date and they're five minutes late and you see it as like oh he must not

really beat that into me like he's not making me a priority or he's this respect da da da like if it's just happening that one time that's not who the perspective is yeah overall you don't know who they are. It takes time to get to know that. Now, if you start dating him and he's just late all the time, then you have a decision to make. But it's not a red flag if he's five minutes late on the first or second date. That could have been the only time that guy ever wore a white belt. Yeah, I don't think so. I think his favorite belt. I got, I got, this is my favorite belt vibes. Like, I showed up looking my best. Like, this is what I wear on my date. Amy's going to love me in this white belt. Oh, no. And then I was like, what?

I don't know that I've ever clocked somebody wearing a white belt now that we're talking about it. Now, this was 2004. Well, I was alive during then. I know. I'm just saying, I'm going to be difficult. I'm like, well, God, this was 1862. It was in the Gilded Age. Yeah, they're ridiculous.

I think I might have had a white. Yeah, but you having a white belt is very different than a guy having a white belt. I don't know if I had it, but I remember people. people wore the grommet white belts with like the holes in them you know with a little grommet you know what a grommet is yeah I know those they had them in black too but people wore them in white I swear okay well maybe I just wasn't in on maybe it was you maybe maybe I you're the red flag I'm the red flag well I think it's obvious that I am after this conversation I think it's very obvious I need help and I guess we'll find out if he ended up saying that on the car conversation I tried to call him earlier to get an update on if they had the conversation or not.

And I guess they're busy working or something because he didn't answer. It is a work trip. So then I just sent a text saying, does so-and-so, I put the person's name, I think it's weird. I was raised by cats. And he just sent that face palm emoji where the guy's like fitting his face in his hand, like, oh my God. And then that's it.

He hasn't communicated with me yet. But I'm going to take that as he didn't take the challenge. Is this somebody he knows well? Yeah. I miss that. Okay. It would be even weird if it was like a newer colleague. No, I think it's like a colleague that like, like let's just say like at his job,

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Lissie McGuire. And I'm like... Wild bat you were with. It was like a first closet moment from me where I was like... You're like, I don't feel like she's hot, like the rest of that. No, no, no. I was like, she's beautiful. But I'm appreciating her in a different way than these boys are.

I'm not like... But... Listen to Los Coltristas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. Maggie's been doing okay ever since she learned her sister as a model in New York. She looks just fine. She just sleeps all day. Meanwhile, Kara was in here and she didn't make a peep the whole time. She had very good.

So we're almost gone are the days where pets are going to be with us. Kat and I are going to start filming every episode and no animals will be allowed. will be in the new podcast room that I'm working on at my house and we're just going to be way more buttoned up and official. But until then, it's a wild wild west. Are you going to be sad to not have Kara next to you? As much as you get frustrated with the noises, I feel like. Yeah, I like her. I think I'll be around her enough. But we're, we're, Kat and I are up leveling. So, wait, wait, up leveling? Yeah.

Does she mean to say leveling up? No. Is up? Is it not? Is it not? I'm not even making fun of you. I just didn't know if this is another way to say it. Up leveling. What does it mean? Having greater capabilities or a higher version number. Up leveling. What is up leveling? Let's go back to the literal meaning. Up leveling means going up a level, i.e. to the next level. It's a bigger jump than just a small incremental increase. Okay. Here's your vocab word of the week, but I think you did mean leveling out. No. Okay. What does up level mean in business? It means doing the hard work to get you or your business to the next level. Up leveling.

So what does leveling up mean then? Maybe it means the same thing. Okay. You know what? Up leveling sounds more prestigious than leveling up. It's kind of like armpit and underarm. What is a synonym for up leveling? And it's to propel forward to rise to the next level, take it up a notch, succeed,

elevate one's game. But not leveling up. well leveling up may mean that but i guess i'm used to saying up leveling because of business oh wait you really do say that i'm a business person cat i'm from the gilded age and we do business there i was raised by business cats they were very very well respected in the business community it's funny. I was not to be like, people are going to think we're drunk, but I'm doing dry February too.

I just finished dry January. And now I'm going to. You're up leveling to February. I'm going to up level to February because, well, I read somewhere that to give your liver a really good detox, you should abstain from alcohol for six weeks. And so if I already made it to four weeks, then might as well go two more. And then maybe on Valentine's Day, I'll have a glass of wine. Why Valentine's Day?

because what are you about to say about cats i was going to say if i still have a after today we were at the liquor store like around christmas time and he was buying some gifts and he ended up getting like a really good bottle of red wine he was like we'll save this and we'll have it for something and so i think we're going to have it on valentine's oh that's sweet wait i have to share what i'm doing i don't think i said this earlier what i'm for Valentine's Day. I told you my pottery thing, her hobby, her new hobby. Okay, I've been trying to get into pottery for a while. The classes are very expensive and they do them in the community center. Like Nashville does them and they're cheaper, but they're so hard to get into. Anyway, I was going to

sign Patrick and I up for a Valentine's pottery class, but it was pretty expensive. And so I was kind of like on the fence. I found, why are you looking at me like that? I don't. I don't know. I'm excited for you to tell people. I found a at-home pottery kit. Like, it's just, like, air-dry pottery. You don't have to put it in the kiln because I would totally buy a kiln. Exactly. That's why I'm looking at you like that.

I'm like, wait for it. Katz can start teaching pottery classes. That's why I said, oh, yeah, earlier I mentioned, Cat will tell you more about that because she's going to be holding pottery classes and she's going to get rid of her oven in her kitchen and replace it with a kiln. Okay, well, this was only $50. And it comes with enough clay to make like six things. So I told Patrick, we're going to have an at-home Valentine's Day pottery class.

I saved $150 by spending $50. And now you have a Valentine's date. Yes, exactly. So you've something to do and you saved money. So everybody, I forgot where, what the company was, but I'll post it somewhere if I. Well, I can link it in the show notes. If you can find it by the time the show notes go up. then we can link it.

And if you want to take a class from me, I'll probably be teaching them about six weeks. Maybe you could do it virtually. People could get their little pottery kits in the mail. I can create my own pottery kit and sell them. I'm about to get my starter for my sourdough and I'm be making my own bread. I know I'm five years late on this trend. I think people are picking it up now. Yeah.

I know, but I feel like 2020 was really the time that I should have taught myself. but yeah but now people have perfected their recipes so it's going to be better for you yeah i feel i can keep it keep it pretty simple back in the 1800s how we used to do it it's just three ingredients but i got to get a starter but apparently there's this one bakery here in town you can go get it and their starter is a hundred years old i was going to say you can get it from my mom for free but that sounds pretty sweet but also sounds crazy a hundred year old it's just been multiplying for a hundred years That kind of weirds me out. I think my mom bought hers off of like Etsy.

Yeah, people do that too. So I had a friend that ordered one like that and it was okay. Like she was making okay bread and then she went to the spakery to the 100 year old thing. And she's like bread is next level. She's doing everything the same, but she's better. It's local here. Oh, I have to tell my mom. My mom has found a way to make everything out of Sartner starter.

That's her life now. That is her hobby. just going to be me with pottery. Yeah. Will you make pottery? I'll make bread. I can make a pottery bowl and you can put the bread in the bowl. Okay. And then we can sell them together. Like you can sell your bread and I'll make this too. I don't know. I just in my head, this is going to blow up. Okay. Yeah. We have other things we need to work on, but like business wise. Well, it could be, we could weave it in somehow. Well, we could weave it in. Yeah. We can do. So back to that, our business that we're working on, it's up leveling. We're about to up level up level up. So no dogs, no cats, except for cat, therapy cat, cat, damn, beerin.

No cats with a C. Mm-hmm. Only Catherine. Do you want to go by cat or Catherine? When we uplevel? Well, if we consult with the business cats, they'd probably say Catherine because it's more sophisticated. More sophisticated. But I think I'm kind of stuck with cat.

So we'll be up-leveling to Amy and Catherine. What's the long form of your name? Amelia. That's a beautiful name. Amy Elizabeth. I love the name. Elizabeth. Okay, Amy Elizabeth and Catherine's pottery and bread classes.

Should I get rid of Brown? I mean, I did get divorced. You would have to change so much stuff. Yeah. I mean, I just mean professionally. I mean, I like having the same last name for my kids. But I did notice that my ex has me and his phone now as Amy and my maiden name.

No way. Yeah. And I was like, which I get it. We're divorced. So that's fine. But that's still your last name. But his contacts,

like he synced some of them up with our son's phone. So then my son had me in his phone as my maiden name. And I was like, wait, wait, what was she in? What were you in his phone when you're married? I don't know.

Probably like wife. Wife or. Yeah. And so he was in mine as husband. Which I get for him, why would he put me in as Amy Brown? Because we're divorced now. But it is still my name.

But that's your name. I know. But I don't really know. I don't really know how to handle this because professionally I'm Amy Brown. My kids are still brown. My mom always kept her married name after when my parents were together forever, but she died with my dad's last name. And I don't know how my dad's new wife felt about that, but whatever.

Like if I ever get remarried, I would take my new husband's last name. But professionally, I would still be Amy Brown. unless when we up level, I just go ahead and make the switch to Amy Elizabeth. I don't get the rationale. Well, it just gets rid of any. Then I can get married and divorce as many times as you want. But people who are very famous, like Haley Bieber, who was, can't remember her old last name. Baldwin?

I was trying to be dramatic. I was kidding. But like, of course she would take Bieber's last name. What are you talking about? What did she do before? I get she was a famous. a child did she I don't know

I think she was a model okay so she was a model I know other people have done this I just can't think of them her changing her name up levels everything to beep her of course she changes to be per well what if changing your last name up levels you it's not going to uplevel anything

even my name right now doesn't give me any like she Baldwin she has more like do you know me Amy Brown sir I can't even get Amy Brown.com because Amy Brown is a fairy artist and Charity has you should Google this before you make the decision and people in the media who change their last name when they get married. Yeah, I don't really think it's going to impact me that much.

I just don't know that I'm that known as Amy Brown. So I don't think it's that big of a deal. Like I think I could be, well, that's what I'm saying. But right now the podcast is four things with Amy Brown. Yeah. So if we up a level. That's our cue to go. Car is making noise.

We just want to thank all of our loyal listeners that are still listening at this point. No matter what our names are. No matter what. what our names are. Maybe you have a story where you've gone through this professionally and you've gotten divorced. Like, what do you do? We could uplevel to Amy, Elizabeth, and Catherine Mary.

That's my name. So many names for people to remember. They sound very professional names. Amy Elizabeth. You sound like somebody from the Gilded Age. Yeah. We could talk about all things 1800s. That's what we're uplifting to.

Stay tuned. Stay tuned. We're going to like to know. like to know it all of our outfits um dresses and umbrellas i was going to say is the gilded age when they like churned butter and stuff or is that a long time ago i think some people still churned butter but like the light bulb was invented then the gilded age i only know that because thomas edison was on one of the episodes you could upload your original light bulb that still works to this day huh from the gilded age did i told you about the light bulbs how they've changed the way they've worked

Oh, yeah, because you said they were supposed to last 75 years. Yes. And then light bulb companies. So you can like to know what your light bulbs. Yeah, we need a light bulb that's going to last forever. But that's so many things. We're just really trying. Everybody's just trying to get us to spend more money.

Yeah. Wow. That's the world. And I, we're going to be, we're going to give you our podcasts. We're going to keep giving you our podcasts for free. But we may up level to some other things that would be things added value that you could invest in for yourself. Like sourdough starters and pottery kits. Our cooking show.

What else? Okay. I think this is like, yeah, we gotta go. Houston's like, what is happening? Hi, Houston. He's editing and he's probably like, why is this still going? A cat, where can people find you? On Instagram, Kat Van Buren.

And I am at Radio, Amy, and I will see y'all on Thursday. I'm going to have my dermatologist on. Ooh. Wait, I need to schedule your dermatologist. kinds of questions like how often you should be showering how often you should be washing your hair what temperature water to use in the shower we already know that's lukewarm okay well it'd be nice to hear from them well I know but whenever I said it I said my dermotcha I mean yes coming from his voice you mean like it has more credibility yeah no offense to you thank you lukewarm showers but like

how long should they be and then because boyfriend my boyfriend he doesn't he won't shower every day Sometimes he'll just lean in and like wash his hair because he doesn't want to dry his skin out. And my boyfriend wouldn't wear deodorant, so I feel it. If I had learned this early on, it might be an ick, but now I'm like, wait, what's the rationale of not showering your body? He says we don't need to wash our skin every day. And that's why I'm going to talk to my dermatologist about it. Sometimes I want to take two showers a day. I know.

He says I shower too much. He washes his hair more than he probably should wash his hair. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't know honestly how many days he can go without a shower. And he doesn't smell. It's probably because he's wearing deodorant. Yeah. But he doesn't, he tells me a shower too much. And then the other day, he was like, we were on the phone.

He was like, hold on, I got to go just stick my hair on the water real quick. And I was like, wait, why aren't you just getting in the shower? And he's like, I'm not going to wash my body today. It's not my body washing day. I also just like love taking a shower. So do I. I love taking a bath too. But we're going to talk about that sort of stuff. Like, if you like taking hot baths, like what do we do for our skin? Yeah. And then scalp health, dermatol just focused a lot on scalp health. I didn't realize that. Really? So like is dry shampoo

bad for our health? Yeah. I do have a question for him about dry shampoo. And then other things. Like some stuff is just, is this trendy and good marketing or do we need to buy it or what? drugstore things. Do you really like, how do you feel about face fitness? How do you feel about facial cupping? Let's see what he says. If he says, whatever it doesn't work, I'm going to be like, you're a liar. What are your credentials anyway? Yeah. You say you're double board certified. You went to Harvard? Yeah, right. Show me your diploma. Right. So anyway, I'm hoping he doesn't do that. If he does, I'm to be like, got any Botox? Just inject me now. You have to go to bed, I feel like.

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