The Bobby Bones Show - IN THE VET'S OFFICE: Jason Tartick: Adopting Teddy & His Insane Backstory

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

In this episode of In The Vet's Office, Dr. Josie is joined by 2x best-selling author, Trading Secrets podcast host and Bachelor Nation star Jason Tartick. Jason opens up about the void he’s had in his heart recently for dogs, which led him to adopting his pup Teddy from Wags & Walks Nashville. Jason dives into Teddy’s crazy backstory, including why the dog had to spend an entire winter outdoors after his previous owner was arrested on a serious charge. Jason talks about Teddy's big personality and what he's learned from his professional dog trainer. Dr. Josie gives Jason some pointers on Teddy, including advice on a potential ACL injury.   Plus, Dr. Josie breaks down some important pet care tips:  🐾 Why you *shouldn’t* buy just any flea and tick meds online 🐾 The dangers of using certain shedding brushes on your pets  🐾 And much more!   Don’t forget to *LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE* for more behind-the-scenes pet stories and expert vet advice! 🔔 *New episodes every week!*   #Veterinarian #PetCare #Pets #Dogs #Cats #JasonTartick #PetRescue #FunnyPets #VetLife #AnimalLovers #Nashville #Podcast #PetTips #DogTrainerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You may know him from The Bachelorette. But there's a lot more to him than just reality TV. He's a bestselling author, a business in financial expert, an entrepreneur, and the host of his own hit podcast, Trading Secrets, which I may or may not be going on in the very near future. And most importantly of all, and the reason he's here today is he is a dog dad to the newly adopted Teddy. Welcome to in the vet's office, Jason Tartick. Thank you so much for having me. I'm happy you're here. This is cool. This is awesome. It's also like wild how many people we know like in this. This all just came together so quickly.

It's kind of great. Small world out there. I know, Nashville especially. Oh my gosh. It's like what's not six people? It's like six degrees separations, one. Totally. Yeah.

I saw you adopted Teddy and I messaged one of our really good mutual friends. And I was like, hey, I bet this guy might be interested in a concierge vet. Like, let me reach out. Yeah, yeah. So I text you and you're like, I might be moving. I don't really know. I'm like, no worries. Then I'm like, hey, we could pro rate this if you want, you know, me being a business girl.

And. Wait, you said that? Okay. So let me tell you about you talk about red flag. See, look at these texts right there. How many is that? Okay, 814. I am the worst at texting.

I didn't know you said you can pro-rate. Okay. We can talk. We can talk about this on your podcast. So if I do New York City and Nashville, like a pro rata from when I'm just here. Absolutely. All right. My clients close the deal on trading secrets.

You're going to close the deal. And so then I'm sitting there and you haven't responded yet. And I'm like, oh, man, like I'm stressing about season. three, I need more guests. So then I send you a voice memo. You're busy. I don't hear back from you. I'm like, no big deal. That night, I go out. I'm like this guy, guys, what a dick? So then we go out. I go out that evening. I meet up with my good girlfriend who's here in town with her sister, Kelly Flanagan. And you show up at the bar and I'm like, oh my God, this guy, I've texted him. I have voiced memoed him. And now I'm at this bar. I look like I'm stalking this guy. So I was like,

hello, I'm Dr. Joe. See, what's your name, Joe? I was like, doctor. I'm like, wait a shit. Wait, what, what? Like, you're the one has been blowing me up. So anyways, I'm glad that we met and I promise I'm not a stalker. No, that is. I mean, again, small world, right?

Everyone, by the way, everybody. I have friends, wags and walks, my train, everyone in door as like, you're the best, like you're the best. My biggest issue, though, is I'm in this weird position where I'm trying to figure out, am I going to move to New York City or am I stay in Nashville? And I'm, like, toying with all the ideas. but the idea of the concierge pet service makes like perfect sense, especially Teddy goes freaking nuts at the vet.

It's just I got to feel like everything in my life, which is crazy, even vet services. You can't figure shit out until you have your foundation, right? So that's like I got to get the stone down and then can like build from there. So we're going to work it. We're going to work something out. I can't wait. And I want to talk about your move to New York and what that might look like for your teddy as well.

Yes. I want your opinion. Yes. We'll discuss. Before we dive into all things, Teddy, I like to start this podcast with a case of the week. And this kind of just like opens up what life is like in the trenches, if you will, for the listeners. And so this particular case, there was a guy, this is probably about a year ago. A guy was walking his dog off leash and east, wow, leash east Nashville.

I think I know this story. Do you know this story? You've only said like four things and I think I know it. Oh, boy, you know what happens next. Yeah. Isn't this? This is how small Nashville is. Okay. If this story's right, we'll see. I'm going to be shocked if you know this.

This is one of my clients, maybe. Okay. Anyways. It is one of your clients? It is one of my clients. That heats it up. Okay. Because it's a successful family.

Yeah. Well, this is before I was concierge. But still, great guy. Great guy. Okay. So he's walking his dog off leash. And this, by the way, for everyone listening, I don't care how good your dog is.

Like, drivers are crazy. They still want to like sniff and get into things. Put your dog on a leash. It like gives me heart palpitations, seeing them running around off leash. Anyways, this dog he notices is sniffing in a bush. He goes to kind of see like, what are you looking? Like, what are you sniffing at? And the dog pops back up. He has like something plastic in his mouth and he sees plastic and white. The dog swallows it. This happens all the time. He's like, maybe it's trash. Maybe it's a napkin. We'll see. We'll see. They get home about a half hour later. The dog is super agitated. He's pacing around the house. He's just acting really strange. And so he calls us and tells us what's going on. and we say, yeah, you should definitely bring him in, let us take a look at him. The dog comes to the clinic, and he has the highest heart rate I have ever heard in a dog. It was like 300 beats per minute.

He is panting, full body tremors, pupils are huge. He has a temperature through the roof. And a young dog, we always think, what have you gotten into? What kind of toxin? We drug test him and come to find out he ate an entire bag of cocaine. Stop it. This is not the story I heard. I was going to say.

That is insane. Just in the park there was a bag of cocaine sitting around? It was on the streets. He was walking down the sidewalk. And we have seen this time and time again. A lot of times it'll be like an edible, like weed edibles for whatever reason will be like dropped on the street. This is definitely my first time of a dog eating an entire bag of cocaine. What do you do?

Well, the dog, I mean, you can give it like special muscle relaxants, but we had to hospitalize. We sent it right to the ER to the ICU. they do like tons of ivy fluids to kind of flush out their system. He ended up like seizing for multiple days in a row like full blown overdose. And I'm really like I want to say that he did great and went on to be fine, but he didn't. It did not end well. Oh no. I know.

He died from it. He passed away. Oh my God. I was not expecting. I'm so sorry that I brought you to this podcast and tell you this horrible story. But I think that this just really reiterates how important it is to have your pet on a leash. And even when they're on a leash, like keep an eye on like what they're getting. into because I do see this. Yeah, I'm, I'm a huge leash guy. Just like, I think you have to be.

That is so sad. Well, sorry that I was going to say that I thought it was. It was the same start of the story, very well-trained dog, service animal, smartest breeds out there, no leash, which is typical, I guess, for this owner. And he went up to a girl, there at the park, and he's playing with the girl, and the girl was like, it was out of sight of the owner, I guess, and the girl said he was, the dog was amazing.

And then he gets distracted. And all of a sudden he hears shots, there's gunshots. Oh, I know the story too. Yeah. This was at Percy Warner Park. Percy Warner Park. And he goes over,

and then a guy that was nearby said that he felt threatened by the dog. And the girl was like, this was the sweetest dog in the world. That dog did nothing. I was the eyewitness. There was nothing. There were multiple,

eyewitnesses. Multiple eyewitnesses saying there was no attack, there was no nothing, and this guy took out a gun and killed the dog, point blank. Broad daylight. At a very, like, well-known, safe park. Very safe. Which is just insane. I mean, obviously, there's a lot to tackle within that situation, right?

Like, there's a lot of different areas you can talk through. Yeah. But, you know, it does. There's the theme from the other one is like, leash, right? Yeah, exactly. Obviously, there's a lot more issues in that circumstance. Right. For sure.

But that's just like a whole other. Yeah. There's so much. Yeah. Unpacked there. But the leash thing. It's real. The leash.

Win and doubt. Leash mom. Yeah. Speaking of leash. Yes. Let's talk about Teddy. Let's talk about Teddy. So,

my man. So all the listeners know I do a ton with wags and walks. And that is where you got Teddy from. Yes. Do you know? Tell us about him like what's his age. Do you know his breed? And what is his backstory?

Okay. So he is, he's 10 months when I got him. I've had him for a month now. So 11 months. That's all prediction, right? You guys decide that based on teeth? Yeah.

Okay. So that's what they told me based on teeth. His backstory is wild. I actually haven't shared this yet. He, he in November, and I wish I had the notes in front of me, so I got this perfectly correct. But in November, his owner was arrested. And when he was arrested, it was a pretty serious charge.

And at that point, that owner had the, two options to give the dog up. Do you know what the charge was? No. Like did he commit homicide or something? I like, trust me, I'm going to find out. Okay, we have to know. Because I don't have any information.

I'm going to go true crime because I love true crime. So he gets arrested. It's a serious charge. And then he has two options to surrender the dog. It'll go to a shelter to rescue or a family member can take the dog. He wouldn't do either option. As a result of that, he then has to go in a specific type of shelter. In this shelter, from what I was told, it was an outdoor shelter. Now, I had a roof,

but it was outdoors. So from November to February, Teddy was only in the shelter outdoors through the entire winter until a decision was made on the case. He was held in custody. A decision was made in February, I believe. He was like in doggy foster care. He was in doggy foster care. Yeah, except, yeah, sounds even like a little bit worse. Yeah. And they have pictures of him like in this, in this like small area and it's not great. No. And then when the, when the guy was found guilty,

that is when Wags was able to, like Wags had their eye on them. The second he found guilty, Wags could take him. And it was the day that he arrived, it was the next day I came in. So that's like kind of crazy. Were you just going there?

Were you looking for a dog? Or were you going to do like social media stuff? How did that come to me? Yeah, I had, my ex-fiancee and I had two dogs together. And I don't want to get into that on this podcast. But long and short, they're in a good, healthy and happy place with her. And I hadn't seen them since May of last year.

And so I have been like really like having a void in my heart for dogs. And it was February 13th in the mailman left two dog bones at my front door. And I was like, I can't. I like, I literally, and I took a video of it. I'm like, I'm dying right now. And wags and walks actually reached out. And they're like, hey, why don't you come volunteer and just come spend some time with dogs and like maybe they'll put a smile on your face on Valentine's Day.

So I was like, you know what? You're right. And typically my days are just warped and packed and back-to-back meetings. I cancel everything. And I was like, I'm coming in tomorrow. And so I went into wags. I went in with John Gurney. And we went to go, we played with all these dogs.

And then I met Teddy that day. And that was the, again, he got there the day before. he wasn't even registered in their system. And I was like, oh my God, shit. This is not good. This is not good. It's so funny when you know. It was the second I put my eyes on him and I was like, oh no.

Oh, no. I don't know if love at first sight for humans exists, maybe, but with dogs, I know it does. It was instant. I was like, I looked at it. I'm like, oh, no. And I walked away. I'm like, I did it like, uh-oh. And I came out and we had so much.

We're playing. So, my God. I take a breather. I promise myself. If anything, I would walk out, take a day or two, took a day or two, went back to play with him for like three hours, walked him, everything. I'm like, he's mine. And so that was it?

He looks like a golden. That was it. Yeah. Oh, his breed. Yeah. He looks like a golden, but he's definitely got something else. No way. His DNA testing is in right now.

So I don't even know what he is. But I don't know. Maybe Collie. I don't know. Everyone's got a different opinion on it. How much does he weigh? He weighs. He's tall.

Like off the ground, he's tall, but he's around 60 pounds. Does he have on his back feet? Does he have back due claws? Yes. He does. Yeah. I could see him having great pyrenees. That's what the wags found.

That's what Catherine said. I could see that. And I was like, what? I've never seen him in person, but that's a big dog. Big dog. And they are bred to protect chicken coops. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I know.

Or like farm animals. So what would that mean behaviorally? Behaviorally, it means that he, they're a very, very, very. smart. He is smart. And probably too smart for his own good. Yeah. And that they just can be a little bit more like, like they're just can be protective. They're protective. They're very stimulated. He's very alpha. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We've, we've had. Does he still have his cuckoon? We're going to have to check that. No. Okay. So we're neutered. Recently. Yeah. Was he neutered at Wags? Yes.

Okay. Interesting. And how, I mean, he's 10 months old. Yeah. I have this theory that. I have this theory that dogs come from rescue and they either come to you a little bit more like mellow and then as they get more comfortable they're like let's go I'm home and they're crazy or they come and they're like super hyper stimulated already like really on edge and then they start to calm down yes how is he he is the definition of extremely stimulated like he is a wild man he parkour he is oh yeah and you can tell like right dogs are packed animals he definitely whatever packed he was in he was the leader And you can tell he's, and it's his intention and energy is like so kind and sweet and fun and smiley. Okay.

But he has also never been told no in his whole life. Right. So like you could tell he read wherever he was with this dude that's in jail. That dude got his show run by Rango, which was his name. You made commitment murder. Yeah. Ringo's the boss. Yeah. Ringo was the bike.

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I have the perfect puppy. They come back six months later and they're like, what have I done? This dog is a monster. Like, well, get me, help me. And I'm like, this is very normal from months eight to 12. Okay. Maybe even like 18. Okay.

They are just on a tear. Yeah. Exactly. And he wasn't, you know, he just wasn't the way, so Nikki, the way Nikki kind of explained it. She's like, for the, for the listeners, Nikki is the trainer that we had on season two. She's actually coming back. Oh, she's a, yeah, she's so great. She's amazing. People loved her. They were like, bring her back. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. The people, the listeners know Nikki. Yeah. When she talks, I don't say, I'm just like, I'm like writing notes. Exactly. Just keep telling me. I think the way she explains it is very helpful too because it's the psychology and then the action, which is really helpful. But, um, what. What she was saying was that, like, imagine like a human, like I just drop, like, name a random city in a country anywhere. Tokyo, Japan. Copenhagen. Okay, Copenhagen, Tokyo, wherever.

You put yourself there and you're just like, go figure it out. You'd be like, you know, you'd be stimulated, looking everywhere. Where do I go? What's the currency? What's the restaurant? Where do I stay? You just like, you don't know. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

It's like, that's your dog right now. Yeah. And imagine, you know, Tokyo, Copenhagen, and I bring, like, the best, a very good friend who knows everything. They speak dual languages. They know the spots. And what are you going to do? You're going to let them lead.

follow their lead. And then they're going to show you everywhere and you're going to be safe and sound. This is what the dog needs. Like you have to be the leader. And these dogs love you. Most dogs don't respect their owners. And you have to develop a respect with your dog. And so we've gone through a lot of like intense training, everything from crate training to opening the door, letting him come out when he's told to come out. But then it's like this constant reestablishing relevance, right? Right. So he gets out of the crate. Now we've got to reestablish relevance. Then we got to open the door. Make sure he doesn't go out of the door without being told. Then the leash training. And there's been a lot of ups and downs and challenges and lefts and rights. But the biggest thing

that we're working on is he's mouthy. And I didn't realize that like if a dog is like what Nicky had said, if a dog is biting your leash, it's an extension of you. It's like they're biting you. And if they're putting your fingers or hand in their mouth in any capacity, even if it's like playful and like they think it's a toy like they're not biting to hurt but it's like playful like it's the ultimate sign of disrespect like they that doesn't happen and so he does that and then he also his other thing that he's really working on is cars come by and he will rip after a car like it's a moving toy so which is a lot right because the consequences of both of those actions if not appropriately handled could be severe injury or death yeah or whatever else could

be from that. So those are like two things we're taking like super seriously. That's so interesting. I love the analogy of going to a new city being totally overstimulated and we are there. It's so interesting because our first instinct is, oh, I'm just going to love you. I'm just going to love you through it. But they don't, they want your love, of course. And I think there's like a balance, but we also have to be their structure. Right. Which means we have to set boundaries. Yes. And we have to, you know, be kind of strict. And that is so I see owners struggle with that. I struggle with that. It's so hard.

I'm like, I don't, it's good. It's got to be good training for a child because it is like, say, like being like a little tough on him and resetting boundaries and doing things I know that are irritating him, but are for his best interest and mine. It's so hard. If and when we have human children. Yeah. Thank you, Nikki.

We are ready. Yes. Thank you, Nikki. We appreciate it. But because he's mouthy, one thing that we're working on is like the figure eight, which is. I don't know this. Okay. So it's you take essentially, you take the, the lead, the leat. It's not the leash. It's like that lead thing. You know, the rope. That goes over the nose. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. It's just, essentially it's a leash. So it's a leash, but it's just a rope. Okay. And you bring enough of it down under. What do you call this? The muzzle. The muzzle. And you turn it and then you put the, it's the rope over the muzzle. So it's just, it's just a rope. It's like one, like kind of like leash over the muzzle. But it's like tied in the back. And it helps them with getting comfortable that they don't have control.

It doesn't hurt, doesn't create any pain. But it's a new way of like when we're walking, you're not going to pick up that stick. Like you're not going to do that. And it's a constant theme with Nikki's training of like you have to lead. You have to be in front. But also your, almost like a horse, your body language, everything you do, they're reading. So if I'm on my phone, he's going to know I'm distracted. He's going to start leading.

All these little things. So the thing that's the most annoying is practicing is literally me walking a foot forward. If he gets in front of me, we turn around, just back and forth. So he knows at all times he needs to be behind me. So there's a bunch of stuff. My German Shepherd went to Nikki. And so he's upstairs right now sleeping because we just spent all morning out front. If he gets ahead of me, we turn around and go back the other direction.

And he has made so many strides, but there's still times where he's like, oh, another dog. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it's like you're like, I'm burning a hole in the sidewalk from going five paces forward, five paces back. Oh, but it's like the patience and the consistency. One thing I thought was interesting, I don't know if you're, I don't think she'd care if I shared this. I just found it fascinating is when she's doing this, what I love is she's explaining the psychology of like what's happening to the doc. And he was being, we were going, she was, he was throwing a fit, biting the leash and like trying to play tug a war. And she went down, got his energy. It was a whole thing. He was being a. He was being a. a brat and she was doing this thing with his mouth. And it didn't create pain, but it created this signal. I was like, what do you do? What is? I've never seen that. And she's like, when I do this, he's going to instantly stop. And I was like, almost like imagine a pressure point, but not a pressure point. I asked her to explain it. And she explained it. And on the, on the dog's muzzle, like on the top

muzzle, I don't know, what would you call that the upper? What do you refer to that? Like the snout? Yeah, the snout, like where their teeth are on the top versus the bottom. Like, what would you call this versus this. This is the maxilla. Okay. So like you open their muzzle, the maxilla. Yeah. And she just put her hand in the maxilla and then the fingers kind of pressed up on

the gums. Okay. Just the maxilla. And I was like, tell me more. And she's like, well, and I hope I get this right. This is what she said, I believe, is when dogs fight, a dog is like kind of winning because that's where they're going to bite. So it's almost like the equivalent of like if you're, if you're in a fight with a man or a woman

or whatever. Yeah. And they put you in a headlock. And you're just like, okay. Like, if someone puts me a headlock, I'm fine. I'm not, I'm not like, I'm not like, but I'm like, okay, I got to submit. You got me. Yeah, white flag.

Yeah, like, white flag. Like, you won this. Interesting. And so, like, things like that, just you would never know. And we don't learn that in that school. No. I don't learn that. Yeah.

So that's amazing. Yeah. So next time I'm going to fight with my sister, I'm going to stick my hands in her, get her in the mask a lot. Right in the gung. I'll show her. Morgan's shaking her head at me. Carla, if you're listening, watch out.

Do it. That is funny. I mean, that is really interesting, though, and a lot of it is just, and I do love that she explains the psychology because a lot of times they're like, do this, do that, but you're like, why am I doing this? It doesn't really make sense. When you can think through it is so much more helpful. Yeah, exactly.

And even things like the couch, like dogs don't know what a couch is. We allow them to get a couch. Once they get on a couch, they are rated our, like, eye to eye with us. Yeah. And so she's like, if you get to the point that the dog come in the, like, couch, it's got to be earned. Right. You know?

And so like they sit and then you let them come. And if you want them off, there's a demand for them to get off. So it's the whole thing is just fascinating. But it's a huge learning experience for the humans. Oh my God. And I also realize like how, you know, I've had dogs in the past. And I'm just like, wow. How much I was not doing.

I am a horrible pet owner. It really makes you think. I know. I know. So it's a lot. How is it going when we had first talked about him? He was limping a little bit. Yes. So he still is, it's interesting because like his limp comes on and off. We have, and this was

my last golden, poor guy was kicked in the hip and was found in the streets. By a human. Yeah. It was found in the streets of the broken hip. He got surgery and then we rescued him. Because of that, I'm hyper aware of the hips on a dog, like whenever I'm by walking him too much, is he on the concrete versus the grass? Because I would always, if he dragged it. So when I first picked him up, I was like, something's up with his hip. But it wasn't too drastic. And then it started to get worse, but then it got better with pain medication and inflammation.

So we got an x-ray done. The x-ray is a big question mark because the vet said it's good. The radiologist said it shows like an ACL tear. Now we have wags has orthopedic that they suggest, Dr. Nunley. Yes. Dr. Nunley is like it's inconclusive. So I have three different opinions from, oh, I got to send those to you. Send them over.

Send them over. Three opinions and all of them are up in the air. So what we're doing is Dr. Nunley is, I guess he works all over. So we're setting an appointment with him for Teddy to go in to see if there's an ACL tear. So you can feel it. Yeah. It's so interesting because in humans, well, I guess in animals too, when we take x-rays, we can see how does the femur fit into the hip socket?

And that tells us, do they have hip dysplasia or not? That's super easy to rule in or out. Sure. But a ligament tear, instead of ACL, we call it CCL and dogs. That's right. I knew it was something else. I just call it. It's an ACL, same thing.

Yeah. We can't really see that. We can't see that ligament on X-ray. Soft tissue structures don't really radiate like bones to. Okay. And so we can only see evidence of a CCL rupture. So like, is there a little bit of swelling, which we can see on X-Rub. are the bones like slightly out of position,

but we can't say, oh yeah, slam dunk, the CCL's torn. So we do put a lot of weight on our exam. And when we move the different bones in the leg, if there's a lot of, we call it laxity, but like a lot of extra movement, then that would give us more evidence that, yeah, this probably is a torn CCL.

Do you dogs do MRIs? They do MRIs. Would you do an MRI here? You absolutely could. I would say, I would say, we're going to know. By the time we do the exam and take the x-ray, it's going to be pretty solid. If it ever gets to the point where I've had a dog who had this horrible swelling in his front leg, we didn't know why we couldn't get to the bottom of it, and we did an MRI.

So we do have that as an option, but it's like way more expensive than an x-ray in an exam. Yeah. What's interesting is like it's hard, I don't know. I guess we'll have to see because there's some days, he's not that any phase it all. In other days, he limps a little bit. When you say a little bit, is he like toe touching? What does that mean? Like limping on his toe or is he limping like not putting any weight on it at all?

Toe touching. Okay. But like that same day he'll be doing bunny jumps 15 feet in the air and I'll be running like trying to run and I'm slowing him out. We're pretty since I went to the doctor we're like really slowing down exercise a little bit because they suggested two to three weeks. You know, obviously he's a teenage wild man. So give him some love and get him out there. But like let's let's keep an eye on it. And then he's taking anti-inflammation stuff.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, and so even if they tear their ACLs, it doesn't have to be a full tear. It could be a partial tear too. That's one thing to think about. And so with that, it can kind of wax and Wayne like my husband Cody tore his ACL and then went scuba diving the week after. Yeah. So they can tear and still get around okay. So I would say I wouldn't let that like sway me one way or another. Okay. But it should, I mean, it should get like if it's a tear, we'll find out here soon probably in the next week or two. It should get fixed though, right? Yes. And a young dog. a young time, active? Million trillion percent fix it. Yeah. Absolutely. Because if you don't fix it, then they're really predisposed

to arthritis in their joint. They kind of hobble around their whole life. And we have such like the surgery now is like so, it's a well oil machine. They do great. Definitely worth doing. The idea of him two weeks though, like not being able to walk like breaks.

It's like 12 weeks. Oh my God. It's 12 weeks. It's 12 weeks of recovery. The first. Oh my. This poor. God.

He's got so much energy. He's going to loot. Do they have therapists for dogs? He's going to need to talk to someone. It sounds like he could use a concierge therapist. You do therapy? I do not. I'm just kidding.

I would. I'd come talk to him. Can you talk to them? Tell me about your feelings. No, so really the first two to four weeks on a leash in and out to go potty right back inside. Oh my God. That is a form of torture for this dog.

And then four weeks you can put him on a leash and like go around the block. Eight weeks, a little bit more, 12 weeks back to normal. I really hope it's not toward. I hope so too. And honestly, I mean, he's so young and rambunctious right now. Like you, it's okay. You're not like neglecting by not doing anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Especially since he's not limping on a like regular basis. Yeah, we're and it's just all we're doing is waiting for this point. I mean with Nunley, I guess, which is going to be in the next week or two. You're that, Jeff. That's Dr. Nunley's first name is Jeff. Oh, Jeff. Shout out to Jeff. Come on.

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He gets more packages than me. Does he? It's got a lot of fans out there. It's like, with Miss Peaches. It's like a mini-mispeach. They love him. I didn't start monetizing on my dogs. Honestly,

when I walked out to come here, FedEx showed up and then there's like four or five packages. Oh. Everyone was for him. Way. Everyone. This is amazing. Katie is just thriving.

Sia, get up here. Get up here. Put him on camera. Putting you on social media. Wow. Okay. Good to know.

Yeah. She's doing. She should be doing. She could be a little hot. She really could. They're actually for the agency that I own. We rep some dogs. Like Doug the Pug.

I mean, Doug the pug kills it. Doug the pug. Like Doug the pug makes more than the O.G. The majority of humans in this world. He does. And he's like, he has more followers than Miss Peaches. He's the Ogy. Doug has a new little sister named Dory.

Yes, I saw. I said Doug and Dory. I know they're so cute. Cute. Okay, so you're thinking about moving to New York City. Yes. Which is no secret. Yeah.

And how will, I mean, is Teddy like a deciding factor in that? Like, ooh, I want a yard for him in Nashville? or is that playing into your decision at all? It's definitely playing into my decision. And I brought him to New York already. And he did great in New York, which is good. He, like, acclimated pretty well. And we didn't have any issues or anything.

If I did live in New York, it would have to be, like, park would have to be within extreme close proximity. Right. I think where I'm leaning towards right now is buying a place in Nashville, having a nice backyard, spending a lot of time here, and then having more of like an office space in New York that I could, you know, it could be a kind of a podcast, we could have an area to cook and sleep. Yeah.

So I could kind of like work as like an office and that I could do both. You have the best of both worlds. So go up there to work a little bit and then come back here to kind of relax and like have residency here. That's smart for tax purposes too. Yeah. If the IRS is listening. Just delete that.

Yeah. Look away. We, I lived in downtown Chicago. prior to moving here and took care of all the pets in downtown Chicago, which is just as urban as New York City. And I had a great day in there. So you can have big dogs. It's a big boy. Yeah, she's a big gal. So you can have dogs that live in those settings and they do great. I feel like people are like, how could you put that dog in an apartment? Yeah. Well, she gets three walks a day. And, you know, you have access to park. So I wouldn't, I mean, they can live a very nice, normal lifestyle in an urban setting like that.

Okay. That's good to know. Yeah. I should definitely get them trained, fully trained. I was going to say. So we're going to do that first. Then we'll do. We're going to need like a couple years with Nikki. Fix a CCL. Yeah. That would be something else.

Can you imagine him just like tearing down the streets? Oh gosh. Well, he was actually really good with the walks and stuff, which I'm surprised by. Especially if he likes to chase cars. Yeah, he likes to chase cars. A lot of cars. But let me tell you, one session with Nikki, he doesn't chase cars anymore. The old Max love pressure point.

He does not chase cars anymore. I don't have my cheese doing just fine with that now, which is good. I love that. Yeah. Okay, we always sort of wrap up our episodes with a segment called paw and order. Okay. So we're going to do paw and order. And this is three things I would never do with my pets as a veterinarian.

Yeah. And I think these will be good for you as I've kind of tailored them to like a new pet owner. Okay, cool. With a dog. So number one, I wouldn't follow directions on the back of the bag when. feeding my pets unless they're a puppy. That's the only caveat. The reason being is they almost always tell you to overfeed. My thought behind that is it's probably the pet food companies want to sell more food. Oh, interesting. And so if you want to know how much to feed your pet, ask your veterinarian,

we can tell you exactly how many calories to feed. And then based on what you're eating, we can tell you exactly how much of that to give. Can I put you on the spot? Yeah. Like what do you think he should, he's 50, 50, let's say call it 50 to 60 pounds. He fluctuates. Super active. Very active. I have to take that into account. And he's a grown boy, growing teenager. 60 pounds, we'll say?

Well, yeah, I'd say like precisely. It's probably like 57 something. Okay. 56, 57. Doing my calculation. Okay, do your calculate rate? And I'll tell you right now what I do. I feed him every day at 10 to 5.

At 4.50. Wait, what? 10 to 5? I feed him twice a day. Oh, okay. At 10 and top. Okay. I was like, wow, 450.

That is very. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Very precise. So you have OCD, okay. Noted. Okay, let's see here. So this is actually a really great example.

So if you had a 50 pound, let's say 60 pound dog that isn't young and active and growing and all the things, they would probably eat roughly around like 700 calories a day. And a 60 pound dog that is young and wild and active and biting his leash and all the things, you're going to get closer to like 1,100 calories per day. Okay. Good to know. So that's how much I would feed him. Okay.

And then you can look, what are you feeding him? There's a company called Mave that I've been with their stuff. And then Farmers Dog, it's all like the fresh stuff, Farmer's Dog. Those are the two right now I'm playing with. Yeah, you can look at those bags and they'll tell you exactly how many calories. Most of the time on pet foods, it says kill a cow, so K-C-A-L per cup per ounce. Yeah. And that's the same thing as a calorie.

Okay, good. So. Good to know. Yes. On it. Oh, what do you think about slow food? feeders. I love them. Okay. I have the best slow feeder that I use for my shepherd. It's made by Y-Y-Y-O-M-P. Y-O-M-P. Okay. What else do you think about? Sorry, I'm stealing your segment, but I have no, no, no question. Someone told me that you shouldn't put the bowl on the ground. You should actually

elevate it for digestion issues. Is that, is that like too crazy? The internet trolls are going to come after me for this. And I think they know everything, but no, you can put it on the ground. Okay, because I was getting yelled that for that. There are no scientific studies to show that raising food bowls, the reason, the reason, they see that is that their stomachs are less likely to flip. If the food bowls are raised, there's no, like, data behind that. Interesting. So you said stomach flip? Like, what does it mean and what should I look out for?

Like, how do I know if my dog's stomach flip? I'm terrified. It's bad. So it's really mainly in like our really deep chested dogs that have all that extra space. And there's really no rhyme or reason to why it happens. We just know that some breeds are more predisposed to it. And for whatever reason, that stomach expands. And then it flips on.

on itself and it cuts off blood supplies in the stomach and it's a like dire emergency life-threatening condition. The main symptom that we see is dogs that are retching. So they're like gagging, trying to get something up and nothing's coming out. Is it common or no? The data and like deep chested dogs are like Great Danes, 40% of Great Danes will experience GDV is what it's called. Okay.

I got one more question and then I'm done. Yeah. Ask away. I love this. At some of the podcast host me can't help it. What are like, obviously there's symptoms of a human should like go to the emergency room. What are some things that as dog owners should be like, if your dog is doing this, like don't mess around. Go see, go.

Like, what are those things? A, active bleeding. Okay. They're actively bleeding. I take them in. Coughing, I like to take pretty seriously. A cough and a dog can go from being nothing to being something really bad pretty quickly. Coughing, by the way, can sound like a gag.

A lot of times people will come in and be like my dog, it sounds like something stuck in its throat. Yeah. And it's like this, I'm going to make the cough noise and it's so embarrassing, but like that is what it sounds like. Okay. And then I kind of have this rule of three. So if they're having vomiting or diarrhea or something like that, if it's three times in one day, three days in a row or they have three concurrent issues, you should probably take them in to be seen. Okay. If it's like one off, throw up, I'm like, yeah, they'll be fine.

Sure. But if you see three, then it's like go. Exactly. They're diaring. They're not eating and they're vomiting. take him to the vet. That's the only thing I learned from, like, Nikki, threes are big. It's three days, three weeks, three months.

Have you heard that one? Huge. Which is, can you, so I don't screw it up. Yes. It's like three days, when you adopt a dog, you need to be with the dog three days in your home. Don't go anywhere. Nobody else, et cetera.

And it's like within three weeks, they start to find, like, they'll start to understand you're their person. And that takes like three full months of like active care for like them to like decompress. Decompressed, like be at their homeostasis. Yes. I that is so important when rescuing a dog is to sort of have that expectation that you're not going to bring this dog in and you shouldn't go hit up the patios and the parks right away like allow them to acclimate to your home and decompress and that that takes time and so that's like that essentially

what that that rule is and it's so important yeah even like a year after adopting them like I'll still like notice them starting to just like get even more comfortable so it takes time takes time time time. Okay, number two on the list is it is flea season people. It is getting warm out. I can't tell you how many owners have called me because they have fleas on their pets. And I'm going to throw my sister under the bus again on this podcast. But she called me the other day. I know. She called me the other day because her dog had a tick on it. And my big no-no here is don't buy flea and tick prevention off of Amazon or chewy if it's not prescription-based. You do not want to buy the over-the-counter stuff. It doesn't work. That's usually going to be like, sorry to call you out frontline, but like, front line

is the brand that I find that doesn't work very well. And you're going to end up saving a few dollars on the short end, but long end, your pet's going to get fleas and ticks and you're going to spend way more money trying to treat that. So it's worth the extra $5 to buy the prevention from your vet. Wait, isn't the prevention a thing you wear on your neck? It can be. The seresto collar. Yes. It can be around the neck. I don't love that one as much. Really? What do you love?

I love Sampirica Trio, which is... Yeah, but that's the shot, isn't it? No, that's pro-heart. Sampirica Trio is just an all-in-one-one chew. It does slea-sticks, heartworms, all in one, chew once a month. That seems effective. Super-duper effective. We did the injection, I think, is Sampirica ever done an injection?

Never. Never? You're thinking pro-heart? Might have been pro-heart. Because we did it and we almost lost one of our dogs. Really? Yeah, he went into, like, crib. The vet didn't know what to do.

We had them on an IV. They had a heart monitor. Gums went fully gray. Like, we almost lost them from the injection. Very scary. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of listeners out there that have their dogs on pro heart.

And it's not to say that it's a blanket statement of it being bad. It's just any vaccine injection, anything we give them, there's all, and humans too, there's always the risk of having a reaction to something. So he is one that we would not want to give pro heart to. How do you, for. fleas and stuff, how do you, how do you know if a dog has fleas? They are super duper itchy. Like they're unbearably itchy. And then we, I can do my exam and see fleas. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You'll know. All right. And then the fleas can like, you can't see,

like I couldn't see fleas. You can see a flea. You can't. Mites, like skin mites you can see, but fleas you can see. What do they look like? They're like little teeny little like gnats. They like the size of a gnat. Okay. All right. Yeah. Keep my eyes. It's flea season. Keep your, it's flea season. Okay, number three, it is starting to warm up, as I just said. And my dogs are shedding like crazy. I bet Teddy, well, Teddy might still have his puppy coat, but he's got long hair.

So you'll notice. A lot of hair. Thick hair. Thick. You'll notice that in the spring and the falls when they do the majority of their shedding. And I would not fermentate my dogs this time of year, really ever. The firm-ferminating is a tool. It's a desh shedding tool that kind of pulls out that undercoat.

Yeah, I have that thing. And if you go take your dog to the groomer, the groomers will also say, like, do you want me to fermentate your dog for you? I literally just did this, and I obviously did the wrong thing. Fermanating, I can't tell you how many times I see dogs come in, three to five days post-ferminating,

and that tool causes like little micro tears in their skin, and it gets infected, and they're so itchy. They have, like, postules all along their back. And it's not every single time, but it's a lot. So I try not to fermentate. Just get yourself a really good brush. Don't fermentate at all.

Don't fermentate at all. Like ever. Oh, don't ever do that. Interesting. It's that tool is so harsh and it like just scrapes across their skin. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know that.

So get a brush. Don't use that for that claw thing I use. Don't use that. Is it, well, is it a fermentator? I think so. I'll send a picture and see what you think.

But it's like one of those ones that it's got like a little, I don't know, it's like metal. but it's got like little baby claws and like when you do it. Like he likes it. Yeah. It feels good.

But then like a bunch of hair comes out. I'll take a look at it. You'll know like it's like a big. So what about shampoos and stuff? Don't use fermentation champ because aren't they like ferman? You can't know. You can't know. Yeah.

No. DeShetting shampoo. Great. Okay. Okay. Anything like labeled for a dog shampoo wise. It's the tool. It's like that metal on skin.

Okay. Like hurts the skin barrier and then they can get infections after that. Okay. Good to know. Mm. I feel like people always like, do you have any brand deals from this podcast. I'm like, I'm literally up there just like, don't do the firminator. Don't do the front line. Let me tee up with a

potential brand opportunity here. Number one treat. Number one treats. Or like top treat that you're like, that's a good treat. I really like Stewart's freeze dried. And I don't love like freeze dried stuff, but these are the best. I carry them with me to all my appointments. Stewart's freeze dried liver treats. You can get them on. I think it's like a family owned company. You can get them on Amazon. Okay. Anything that you're like. Like absolutely do not put that in your dog's mouth. Antlers. Good one.

Anything hard like that? I can't, I see a fractured. Bones, bones you're good with, right? A hard bone. Anything I can't press my finger into, out. I see so many fractured teeth. What about those bones with like the, like, I don't know, what's your standard

like bone with like the peanut butter stuff in there? I'm blanking on it. Like a marrow bone? Yes. I mean, those are also really hard. Anything that they like doing this with, they can fracture their teeth. Okay. And then I got to go in and take the tooth out.

That's a process. It's a process. I'm sweating and you're spending thousands of dollars. It's expensive, right? Yes. Yes. Veterinary care. We're going to talk about this.

We're going to talk on trading secrets. I can't wait. I can't wait. Yomp, again, I'm plugging them. YOMP, they make really good soft, soft, but they're silicone. So they're still like they can chew on them. Really great toys and bones for dogs to chew on. Okay.

So that's the tea. That's great. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having. This has been great. And you'll have to keep us posted. Well, I'll let people know what happens if you guys move to New York.

Yeah. If Teddy gets a CCL fixed, if he even needs it fixed. There's a lot on the horizon. Maybe we'll do a part two one day and he'll be here once he's trained. In five years, Teddy will come in the best office. When Teddy is nine years old. All right, well, this has been a great first episode of season three. And we have so many more great episodes to come this season.

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