The Bobby Bones Show - In The Weeds: How Bobby Almost Got Sued For A Justin Timberlake Video

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

Bobby reveals how a Justin Timberlake video nearly got him sued, why the whole thing started with an April Fools’ joke! Bobby shares the story behind flying with the Blue Angels, breaks down the different tiers of Dancing With the Stars winners, and why he got threatened over AI-generated images. Then, Bobby sits down with radio host Falen to talk about her unconventional path through radio  from working for free and doing nights and street team promotions to moving across the country for opportunities, joining the legendary Dave Ryan Show, and eventually taking over mornings. Falen opens up about finding her own voice, building a new show with Colt and Jenny, becoming a boss, and what she wants the future of her career to look like. Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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sued for a fake Justin Timberlake video shoot. I mentioned that on an Instagram story once. And I think the question was, what are your Mount Rushmore favorite moments in doing the show? And I had listed the time I didn't get fired for being fined a million dollars by the FCC, the time I didn't get fired whenever we did a bit that got lunchbox put in jail. And I'd mentioned the time that I didn't get fired when we were almost sued for a fake Justin Timberlake video shoot. So I'm going to lead with that. Some of you may have heard this, but what had happened was I was doing nights in Austin, Texas.

And then I show had been on for a few months. And something that I still do to this day is let people in on inside jokes. So I will tell the audience, we're going to do this joke. So be a part of it. But then when I come back and do the joke later, I don't reference the fact that I told everybody that was listening then what I'm about to do. An example would be the picklewall courts that Eddie and I built in my back. backyard. We told everyone at the very beginning, one time firmly, we're not building these courts. I'm actually hiring someone, but we're going to post a lot of pictures of us in the middle of them being

built on construction equipment, and we're going to document the process as if we're building them. So every day, the guys that were building it would leave and Eddie and I would go over and take pictures and act like we were doing it. And our ask was, if you heard me the first time tell you that it was not real and it was a joke, be a part of the joke. So that's been something that I've consistently been doing for a long time. It doesn't mean it doesn't get me in trouble sometimes. So what had happened, this is probably 2005. I went on the air and I said, hey, we're going to act like we're shooting a Justin Timberlake music video and that I'm just going to say, if you want to be a dancer in it, show up at the studio. And you guys start calling in saying you saw

I'm all around town. Now, look, is this the greatest bit? No, it wasn't even that good, but it was something, and I was just trying to do things that maybe people would talk about because I was so new to Austin. So that's what I do is, hey, we're doing it. Call me. People sort of lighten the phones up. They were like, I saw Justin Timberlake at this place. He was at Walmart. And so I said, I just got word that they're going to shoot a video. And so they've said anyone that wants to come up and be a background dancer in the video, come to the studio. And so within an hour, there were 200 girls lined up outside the building, some of like headshots. It's when I walked outside, I realized that this had gotten way bigger than I thought it was going to. Now, we're probably an hour and a half

into this bit on the radio show at night. There were still people calling in being a part of the joke, but I would bring in some of the girls and put them on the air. And I'd say, hey, why do you want to be in this video? And they were talking about how much they love Justin Timberlake. And we had taken pictures of them, every person that came in on the air. And then we posted them all up on the website on April Fool's and said, April Fool's, there's no Justin Timberlake video shoot. So we moved on with our lives.

A couple months later, someone shows up just like in the movies or on the television. And they say, hey, here's your summons or what do they call that whenever they give? you're subpoena? Maybe. But it was like, you're being sued. It's like, for what? And it was Bobby Bones and Jay Shannon that we were in trouble and we were going to be sued for so much money

because we had done this bid and we'd put someone on the website. The problem was there was no such person as Bobby Bones. It's not my real name. And also Jay Shannon, my program director at the time, it wasn't his real name either. His name was Eric. and so a little bit we were nervous

but a little bit you can't sue fictional characters and so Jay calls the person that was threatening to sue us and said hey what can we do to make this go away because I think he was feeling

like he was in more trouble than I was because he had just hired me about a year ago and he was the boss of the station and they basically settled for a pair of Christina Aguilar concert tickets that's it

they weren't even that good of tickets so they tried to sue two semi-fictional characters, and they ended up dropping the lawsuit because we gave them Christina tickets. And that is my Justin Timberlake video story. I thought for a minute I was going to get fired. I did in the end. What was it called?

Do we still think it's subpoena? It can't be subpoena. When they show up and you've been served, what are they serving you? Papers. Papers. Papers. So I want to lead with that

So that's the first thing Number two is I'm seeing The occasional person that says Hey I just hyped your video I don't even know what that means This is going to be a real pap-all moment here If you hype my YouTube video What does it hype mean?

I guess makes it more visible to people So if you hype my video More people see my video Does it cost money for them to hype the video? I don't believe it. I think they get like points or something. Creators must have between 500 and 500,000 subscribers and belong to the YouTube partner program.

Top hyped content appears on dedicated regional leaderboards to gain visibility. Well, if you're hype in the video, thank you. I didn't even know that was a thing. But please hype away. Hite me up. I can use it. So for those of you that hype this video, thanks.

That's greatly appreciated. I had posted an old video of me flying with the Blue Angels. This is like two years old, so not that old. And some people had never seen it before. I even got a message from one of my corporate bosses in New York who's way up. And he's like, dang, you float the Blue Angels. I was like, yeah, he said, what was that like? And I was talking to him.

I don't know how I was nominated. Because that whole story is somebody called me randomly and left a voicemail and said, hey, we're calling from the so-and-so organization. We work with the Blue Angels. And we'd love to talk to you. we love for you to fly with us and I thought man I could be getting scammed here or pranked but if not that'd be really cool I don't even like flying I also get very motion sick but I thought man the blue angels like that's so elite so I called him back and they said you've been nominated

for your like good deeds or something and so I said really they said yeah would you like to fly with us and I immediately said yes and so it's probably a month or or so out. And so I go up and I'm nervous because I don't like getting on a Southwest flight, much less a two person. But it was really cool because they're wearing their Blue Angel suits. I don't know. It felt like so legit. And they walk you out to the plane at first. And then you have to go through a class. And then you put on your own Blue Angel suit, which is really cool. And there's no, I don't know what a G suit is. I think it's what people wear in planes that go a certain amount of G's so it doesn't make your chest explode or something.

But you don't wear a G suit. And I've learned that part of the pride of the Blue Angels is they don't wear that G suit. Their body has to actually take on those Gs. And so I go to the class and see the pictures of the buttons that I'm going to see inside of my little hole because there's the hole that he's in and there's the hole that I'm in. And I get in and your head's covered in glass. And it is like it looks. can see out of it. And the plane's pretty small. And you do have like a joystick in the middle

that you feel like you could just shoot missiles. Apparently those didn't work. They stopped them from working whenever people like me get in. But it feels like you could just shoot missiles in the thing. And before you go up, they teach you that, hey, this is going to be a bit uncomfortable whenever we, I guess, accelerate because it's going to go so hard and fast. that the blood is going to rush from your head to your feet. And to combat that, I had to do these exercises where I sit in a chair, I put my feet on the ground,

I spread my feet a comfortable distance, and I push down as hard as I possibly can with my feet. So I did that a couple times, and they said, does that feel okay? I said, yeah, it feels great. They said, okay, whatever you're doing now, you're going to need to do it twice that when you get up in the plane. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, whatever.

A little bit I'm nervous, though, to go flying, because those things flip and dip and dodge and dive. So that part is making me a bit nervous to get in the Blue Angel. But I'm thinking also this is one of the greatest pilots that exist. You don't get to fly these things unless you are the top of the top, the cream of the crop, super elite. I'm in. We're going.

And there's a video from not inside. There's a video from someone on the ground where the plane, as it's coming off the runway, and it starts to make that angle up like a normal plane would. It then almost turned straight up and go straight up into the air. And I remember that going, holy crap, that was it. That was the really hard G force. Wow, whatever they called that.

And the guys like, yeah, we just did two Gs. Now, what I remembered was they were going to get us up near eight Gs. And I thought, oh, my God, if that was only a quarter of what it was. So you see in the video that I posted, if you watch closely, I do black out, for a split second. What would happen is they would slowly build up. They didn't go all the way to that really hard one until they knew I could take the others.

But you have to push with your legs so hard. Because when you're pushing with your legs, it's basically fighting the blood up as when it sucks you forward, the blood's coming out. Before I had that momentary blackout, I remember having my eyes wide open and it being black

because all the blood was out of my head. Or it felt like that. My eyes were wide open and it was complete darkness. It was the weirdest sensation that I have ever had because I know my eyes were open, but it was as if my eyes were closed because there was no blood there. It's wild. That final one that you see on Instagram was the one where they felt like I could take it. So they hit it.

And I think he said like 7.9 Gs or whatever it was. And we start dumping over, like doing flips. And there's just one point where you see in my head just go limp like, and then I kind of startled myself up. I was out. I blacked out. I was pushing as hard as I could, my feet into the bottom of that plane,

and I still could not keep the blood from rushing out of my head. So for those asking, I'm not sure how I got to fly in them. I don't know if it's perfect attendance at work. On a roll. All I know is I got a call. It was something I couldn't say no to. Did I really want to go up in a plane?

like flying. I get motion sick at everything. And when this thing ended and I got out of the plane and I got into my car, I had to pull over at Chick-fil-A into the parking lot and get out of my car and just lay on the ground. I felt so bad. But it was really one of the coolest things that I've ever got to do in my life. I'm so grateful for it. And if you watch that video on my Instagram, you can see as I'm dumping over, there's a split second where I'm out. But the pictures are awesome. So I'm super grateful for that. I've decided that instead of being in the punching bag, this year on Dancing with the Stars social media that I'm just going to talk about it a little bit. It's always an odd time for me because when the show starts back,

there's a couple weeks of me just taking strays out of nowhere for no reason from people I've never heard of talking about how bad I was. And I think they think it hurts my feelings. It doesn't hurt my feelings. It just gets to be a lot whenever it's happening 72 times. a day in the first couple of weeks, just out of nowhere. So instead of just being in the punchy bag and letting it go by, I've done a little dancing with the stars content, and I've watched the show.

And I really haven't watched the show a whole lot since my time. And my time on there wasn't bad. I loved my time on that show. I just never really watched it before. And then my experience wasn't negative with the show, but it was negative with the fan base of the show. And you have to remember on that show, I wasn't the bad dancer on my season. There are multiple dancers that were worse than me on my season, but I'm the bad

winner. of Dancing with the Stars. And there is a difference. On my season, I wasn't even the one that people were upset about still lasting. There were a couple of those. But it was never me. Once I won, I ended up being the bad winner,

but I was never the bad dancer of my season. I was a mid-dancer on my season. But I think if you did a worst winner of all time, technically speaking, it's probably me. But highest percentage of vote, that's probably also me. which is pretty cool, and I'm pretty proud of the trophy. And so I've watched it through one week.

I watched the guy episode. I watched the girl episode. I was so shocked that they kick people off night one. It was also cool they did guys and girls, but I was shocked they kicked people off night one. On my season and other seasons, everybody would get a free pass. You dance the first week, they'd take those votes, they'd put them up with the votes there on week two,

and they combined everything, kick someone off. But man, I did a video you can go back, or I kind of told you who wouldn't win. And I knew that Connor Levitt wouldn't win because he wasn't even the main person. He's Whitney Levitt's husband. Now in their life, I'm sure he's the main person. But to people that are watching that show, he's not the main person. He's the husband of the main person. And so if you're not the main person and you go on a show like that where now it's you're the main person, you just can't compete because people haven't built that relationship with you. So his fans, we're going to going to be her fans and her fans only a portion of them are going to be motivated to help him.

So he got kicked off, night one. He also wasn't that good, but it doesn't matter. You just need a couple votes, night one, but he didn't get him. He gets kicked off. Then night two was Brooks Nader's sister, who also wasn't the one. So it's no coincidence that the celebrity adjacent people were kicked off on night one. But I do have three tiers. Here are the three tiers of dancing with the stars.

those who can actually win it, those who won't win it, but could last, and those who absolutely cannot win the show. Let's start with those who cannot win the show for any reason whatsoever. Guillermo loved him. He won't win the show. Also, Whitney's pregnant. There's a reason that they probably stuck her with him because she's pregnant. And if he can't win, she's not going to be on the whole time dancing.

But he is fun, but there's no chance he wins the show. I'm putting in this category now, Tatiana Ali. I don't think she can win the show. Watching her dance. I don't know. I didn't even feel like that she loved being there. I feel like her dancing was so far behind as well. And nostalgia can save you for a bit, but I don't think that she can win the show.

And the other one is Giata. Likeable, for sure. I think she'll survive a bit. She also has an injured toe. So I think stamina and injury are going to be an issue. I think there's no chance that Giata wins. Those are the three in that tier. It doesn't mean I don't like them.

There's nothing personal here. I probably would like to hang out with those three more than a lot of the ones that I'm going to put up here in these other tiers. At number two, in the tier of they won't win, but they'll last for a while and they'll have fun. I have Sierra Miller and Brandon Armstrong. Look, she was emotionally engaging for sure, and she should improve. But I think she's very much a mid-season contestant. I have Julius Stiles. I do really like Julia Stiles.

I didn't know if it would or not because I didn't see Julia Stiles in a while. I mean, it's not like I live next door and would see her at the grocery store. But she had a good first dance. The nostalgia factor is there. The only reason I put Julia Stiles in this is I don't know that she has like a passionate group of voters that will push her the whole way. Because if people were based just on growth and dancing and how much someone's likable, I think she could be in it, but I don't think she gets up in the tier of could win it right now.

I have Connor Wood with Riley. Now Riley's fan base is enormous. And I think that Connor could actually last and be a semi-final contender. I mean, he was honestly a little more athletic than I thought he would be when he danced, but I don't think he can win it. This one's going to be a bit controversial because I don't think he can win it. I really like him. It's Taylor Hanson.

Loyal fan base. Good dark horse if you want to pick somebody and go, that's my guy. But there is plenty of room to improve, and this is only one weekend. And God knows I improved a lot from one weekend. but I don't really see the athleticism in Taylor Hansen to win it. Wouldn't surprise me if you made the semifinals or finals, but I don't think he can win it. And the other one is Tyler Cameron and Sharna Burgess from Bachelor Nation,

and Sharna, obviously, was my partner. And I think Bachelor Nation carries pretty much anybody deep. You get on The Bachelor, you're going to make it. It does not matter. I don't see them winning because those two together, I don't like as a pair because there's, no real warmth from them. They're both like vixens.

They're both like hot. Like that's their thing. And so that's, you can go far with that, but that's, it's hard to win if that's what you both are. So he's obviously a great athlete to play college football. I think he'll last, but I don't think that they will win. Now, I do have the ones that I think can actually win the show. and I have this tier with six people.

Now I'm going to for sure put the two ringers in there. Harry Shum with Jenna. Harry is a former professional dancer. He obviously was really good. I don't need to say anything else. He could win the show. Jenna Dewan with Val. Val is wildly popular.

Jenna's the best dancer on the show. She was a professional dancer. I don't need to tell you all her resume. She can win the show. Those two are absolute ringers. They have a for sure chance to win the show if they can just become really, really likable. The lethal combo is someone who is so lovable and is so good.

And if they can do that, and I think Harry has a real chance to do that after watching him on camera a little bit, I think they can win it. The other ones in the category of they can win the show is Mara Higgins and Mark Ballas. People love Mark, but she's a natural performer. He creates elite dances. So I'm going to put them in that. I'm going to put Ezra and Daniela. It's really cool because Amy Purdy, who I got to know a little bit, there were videos of him watching her while she performed,

and then there are videos now of them together. And so it's a very compelling story. He's also like an excellent athlete, and it was just such a good debut for him, super likable. I'm going to put Amber in. She was the ice skating, American, athletic. She's expressive. I think she can be technically excellent.

She's so good already. And then still, I think Jackson Olson and Emma can win it. He's very likable. His dancing was just okay. But I am trusting a lot of his ability to be an athlete and to learn and that muscle memory to kick in. And also, he's an entertainer. So that's my tier of who can.

actually win the show. Harry, Mara, Ezra, Jenna, Amber, and Jackson. I still got my chips on Jackson Olson. I think he has the most growth. I think Harry Shum is probably second overall for me right now with Amber very close. And the other three are in the mix as well. Jenna is just going to have to be very lovable because people are going to hold against her that she is a pros, pro of dancing. But it's fun to watch. So that's what's up. I do want to give away our stay weedy hat. And so, yeah, would you mind grabbing that for me? So this hat I had on last time, it says stay weedy. And the winner is Mary Battle 1848.

At Mary Battle 1848. Brandon will reach out and I will sign this hat and I will send it to you. We only ever had two made right here. We didn't even take the sticker off. So stay weedy. We'll do another one next time, hopefully. Okay. That's what we got.

The Raygun documentary is really good on Netflix. you guys should watch that. She was the dancer who was in the break dancing competition at the Olympics, who it looked like she was just being funny or she was just so outrageous. It's really good. It's motivating. Makes you feel. So check that out.

And then I'll leave on this. I had done some AI images saying that I was coming back on the year after vacation and I had posted a lot that were very famous images from American history. One was like the Wright brothers. It was me and the plane. one was me as Neil Armstrong. One was me as George Washington, you know, going across the Potomac,

and it was that very famous picture. And I had a guy message me and say, if you ever saw me, he was going to beat me up because I shouldn't be portraying that I was in the military. It's a very famous George Washington painting. They're not wearing maybe 1,700 military clothes. And I said, I would love for you to find me.

and then I blocked him, so I couldn't respond to that. So I wasn't trying to steal military valor, nor was I trying to steal astronaut valor, because I looked to see if any other astronauts wanted to fight me as well, and none did. So if you're offended by me as a George Washington character in a painting, I'd like to formally apologize. Hang tight. The Bobbycast will be right back. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense.

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And this is a show we do call hosts where I talk to other hosts about where they've been, what they enjoy, why they enjoy doing it. I mean, this is very much an in the weeds type show, but other people that do podcasts and do radio shows. And what I like about Fallon is she is extremely driven. She's moved across the country multiple times. She, when we talk about this, she runs a massive female-led show, which, you know, there aren't a lot of. And so I'm just a big fan of her. And this is Fallon from KDWB and a lot more that she's doing now in Minneapolis, Minnesota here. Hey, Fallon, good to see you.

Hi, good to see you too. So it's when we recorded this as 3.30 in the afternoon. What do you do at 3.30 in the afternoon? Typically, I'd be like probably figuring out what I'm doing for dinner and getting ready to go meet my kid at her bus stop. That's about it. I think that's one of the benefits of doing mornings, all right, that you get to pick up your kid. Not drop them off, obviously, but pick them up. Yeah.

Yeah, I did afternoons for a couple of years, and it was brutal. They plan kids' activities based around, like, a schedule of parents that do not work until 5 o'clock. So I, for two years, didn't take her to a single dance practice or anything. It was kind of lame. So do you find the morning schedule then better for being a parent? Yeah. people think they're like oh aren't you exhausted and I'm like no I mean I I am tired but I'm like completely get to do all the things I want to do and still I feel like be a more present parent

what time do you wake up uh I get up a 430 so yeah do you actually wake up a 430 does your alarm allow you to wake up or are you waking up like me an hour before making sure you're not late every five minutes no I mean maybe the first like couple of days going back into it. But no, I goes off at 4.30 and I wake up immediately. I do not snooze my alarm. I get up and get out of bed and just. Does your husband wake up when your alarm goes off? Yeah, he hates it. He actually two days ago said, you have got to change the like tune of your alarm. It's, it could not be a more annoying sound. So we had like, I had to go through and he had to approve the alarm sound I picked. And he said he would set up a backup.

alarm that was a vibration on his phone. Because I was like, no, if it's like too soothing, it'll soothe me back to sleep. And he's like, no, this is like ruining my life. And I was all, all right, cool, got it. Since you started doing mornings, have you been late at all? No. I was only ever late probably in like the 10 or 11 years I did it before, maybe twice ever. And once it's because I got into a car accident.

Well, that doesn't count as late. If there's a car accident, that's just unfortunate more than it is late. It's true. Yeah. So where did you start in radio? What was your very first job, very first city? Evansville, Indiana. I went to college there, and I, like, applied at every job at the mall.

And I had never had a job before, and nobody called me. And my cousin, Jimmy, had worked at the local rock radio station. And he was like, I could probably call, like, the most radio named person ever, Sandman and see if he'll give you, like, a part-time gig. And so he did. And so I just kind of did street teamwork to start. But I mean, I did it for one week.

And I went and changed like all my classes at school. I joined the radio station, like the college radio station. I was like, this is it. Like within one week. Where did you grow up? Southern Indiana, it was like right across the border from Louisville, Kentucky. And so you ended up in Evansville for school. Why did you choose Evansville?

Because it was cheap, in-state tuition. I had a scholarship that covered, and then I had financial aid that would cover the rest of it. Because I wanted to go where my friends were going, and my mom was like, no, you're going to go where you have free college. So you start working at the station, and immediately you knew that you loved it? Yes, immediately. I was like, in my small town, I wanted, I was like, I want to be an actress. I want to be, and we didn't even have a theater program at my school was so small. So I didn't even get to do that.

So I remember doing radio and just like feeling like, okay, this is, this is what I'm. meant to do. And I wasn't even on the air. I think I just saw the other like DJs or jocks. And I was like, that's, that's it. That's the dream. How big was your school? 35 people in my graduating class. Yeah. Mine was like 42, I think. So I definitely can relate to that. And did you guys have full sports teams? So we did. But the one that, but not, so it's Indiana. So basketball. Yes. But we did not have football at my school. Didn't have soccer. didn't have lacrosse, didn't have hockey for sure. So it was pretty much basketball, a sketchy baseball team. And then, like, I did volleyball and it was a small tennis team too.

When you went to college, did you try to play anything? Or what did you think you were going to do as you went into your freshman year? I thought, because I went to a small school, I was much better at everything than I was. So, no, I know it would play, like, at a collegiate level, even at a small college. But I was like, oh, I'll join, like, the, intermural teams. And I remember I joined one intermural tennis league. And I was like, oh, man, I'm actually terrible. I'm actually so bad. So I was like, this is embarrassing. And then I did like a sand volleyball. And I didn't like sand volleyball compared to like indoor court volleyball.

So I went from doing every single club and like every sport I could in high school to basically none of it in college. Did you ever work with Sandman once you went over to that radio station? Yeah. So he was, he was like the. program director. So I did a little bit with the rock station, but I pretty quickly went into like primary focus on top 40. So what do you do? Do you go work for the street team over there and then try to make your way in? Yeah. So I started doing that. And then I kind of just was like, hey, you know, I'd love to run the board or something sometime. And they were hype about that. Like, oh, someone that wants to run the board for free. Heck yeah. And so I think you're my dog.

I apologize. And so I started doing that and then they were like, do you want to do a weekend shift? And I was like, absolutely. And then they were like, do you want to do nights? And I was like, yes. So that's where I started. I started doing like street team, running the board, all that and just like kind of worked my way up. So they came to you and said, if you want to do a weekend shift and then if you want to do nights? Well, nights wasn't as easy. So basically when I started doing weekends, the competition invited me to lunch. It was a very awkward situation. So it was the same restaurant that every radio station had free trade in town.

So I went and had lunch with them. I was young. And my bosses were having lunch at the same place. And they saw me have lunch with the competition. But I was like a part-time college kid. So I didn't know that that was like, I knew it was like, I probably shouldn't be here. But they brought me in like that night that like next day. And they're like, okay, we don't want to lose you.

Would you want to host the night show? And I was like, yes. So they got rid of a. Indicated Night Show and gave it to me. What year were you in college when that happened? Probably 2003 or four, I'm guessing. So that was like a sophomore, junior year of college? Or were you still in college?

Yeah, I started college in 2002. So you're doing nights while you're in school. Did you ever think about quitting school? No, but it was brutal because I would be in the studio writing my papers and all my my friends were out partying. That would be in the studio. Like, what's that like? That's probably cool that they're out doing that.

And then I would get up in the morning and they were all hung over and I was going to early morning classes. But I just loved it so much. I don't know. But I didn't consider quitting school. No. The more you did it, was it the more you loved it and thought I'm going to do this even if I have to move around the country?

Yeah. I was, I mean, at that job, I pretty quickly, when I started doing nights, probably within a year or two, I started reaching out to program directors and just trying to find the next thing. Because I knew like I didn't want to stay in Indiana. And I also was like, I felt like they weren't going to give me more opportunities to grow there either. Like it felt like the same people had been in these shows for a hundred years. And there was no one was ever going to leave for me to grow. So I would probably have to leave to get that opportunity.

Did you end up graduating college? I did. Yeah. And so as soon as you graduated, how quickly until you were off somewhere else? else? It took a while. It took a while because so at one point I did leave the, I was at Kiss FM. I quit.

I went across town to work with a show called Booker and Sarah. And I did mornings with them. And then Booker and Sarah went to Texas. But they were like so excited to leave Indiana and go to Texas. They didn't take third person me with them. And then they brought in from Texas Adam Smasher. and I had never heard of him, but he was so different. He was just so different from Booker.

And so I really thought, okay, this is my chance. Like, I'll be his co-host. And I was not his co-host. They hired a different female named Shonda. And then I was like kind of third person on their show again. And I was like, okay, I think I got to get out of here to like get the, I don't know. So then I just kept applying, kept applying, kept applying. And finally, because someone, a PD in Reno, Nevada knew Booker, he gave me a shot.

And so it took me probably like, I don't know, probably like five or so years after I graduated to move. Did that hurt your feelings? You didn't go with Booker? Yes and no. I mean, at first, I was so happy for them because I was just like, this is, they worked for it for so long. And but I understood. I was sad for me because, yeah, I was like, I want to go with them. This is like such a great opportunity.

But I wasn't, I don't know, I guess sad would be the right. I guess there was some sadness probably. Yeah. I was like, okay, I'm still here in Indiana. But then I was like, you know, I thought I had another chance. Okay, well, maybe I can be Adams co-host. And then that didn't happen. I'm like, oh, man.

This is not it. Did you ever think about not doing it? Yes. So for a minute, like after I didn't get the job with Adam, I did apply to work at like an AT&T call center back home. Like I was going to move back home because I wasn't full time. And in my mind, I'm like, I went to college. I should have a full time job now.

This is how it works. You go to college. You get a full time job. You get benefits. These are things I've been told I need my whole life. And I was like, I can't keep doing this radio thing. They won't pay me any money. So I was like, all right.

My sister got me an interview at an AT&T call center. And I put in my notice and they're like, we'll give you a full time job. But it was as a promotions director because they didn't want to lose me, which is cool. But promotions is not what I wanted to do. but I still did it because I was like, I'd rather stay in radio even in this part of it than to leave and go to a call center. So thank God they did that because I don't know where my life would have been if I'd move back home to an AT&T call center.

So your first elevation was getting caught in a restaurant across the street. Your second one was that you got an AT&T call center saying they would hire you. That's right. Yeah. How long were you a promotions director? I mean, I guess that most of that time, I guess probably like two or three years, max. Doing that, did you think, I don't want to do this?

I'm just doing it until I get another job somewhere. Were you searching for another job? The whole time, the entire time. I hated it. I was, so I always, I feel like I'm, it's weird because I'm really good at coming up with ideas for promotions and events. I do not want to do the detail work behind the scenes. Like, I'm pretty organized, but I was like, I don't want to be, I don't want to do client calls all day, figuring out the logistics of when this vendor should arrive or that one.

It was just that wasn't, it felt like it was not elevating my creative side in the least. And also, I mean, truthfully, it did bother me a little bit to go to those events. And all the attention was on other people that I planned the event for and not me. So was the first spot you left for from Indiana? Was it Reno that you mentioned? Yeah, Reno, Nevada. And what, I mean, that's a much farther move. Was that scary to you?

Yeah, I've moved, I mean, I drove across the country with my dog and my cat, 30 hours. And it was pretty scary. I did have a boyfriend and he moved out with me. So that was like at least gave me like one little bit of comfort. But he was in like a band. He was gone all the time. He was like constantly touring. So he wasn't with me a ton.

But it was just nice to have someone like kind of move out there with me at first. But I was moving into a real. to a really sticky situation. This just shows you. I was like, I was like, I'm going to take anything because it was, I was set up with this guy. I immediately got bad vibes. Like, this guy is sketchy.

I don't know. Like, this feels wrong. They fired him the day before I was supposed to start after I moved across the country, because yeah, he was sketchy and hired their production director to do mornings with me. I'd never even met him. They're like, you guys are starting like tomorrow together. Well, so you, had you ever been to Reno for the interview, though, before you drove across? Yeah, I came out.

Well, I went out there for the interview, and that's where I met the guy. And I was just like, something's off with this person. I don't know. Like, it just is a gut feeling. And I was like, and I kept telling myself, it's a two-year contract. Do two years there. You can get through two years. Do two years and then get out.

Like, you just need to get like something on your, to show like you can do the morning show. It sounds like what people say when they go to prison. Like what you just said there, it sounds like the talk you have with yourself, like you can do four years. Just do it and get out. It was Reno, you know? I'm just kidding. I love Reno now. So how did you and your new co-host that you never knew would be your co-host get along?

We had an interesting dynamic. I was in my 20s. He was like 40. And it was funny because we were opposite. So he liked to go out to clubs and party. And I've never been like that. And so I don't. I don't know, we had a very different view on how maybe a show should be, should run or be

prepped. And I loved him. And it's funny because off the air, we got along just fine. We like laughed and I thought it was hilarious. And we would have good moments on the air. But I think I was just, I don't know, it just wasn't what I had pictured a radio show would be like. And I would listen to other shows and be like, man, I want to be on a show like that.

Did you feel, though, that as the co-host, because I think a lot of women are just automatically pigeonholed into, well, you got to be the number two, like regardless. You got to be the number two. And I think that that has been so unfair for so long. But did you feel like, hey, I actually could like do this and run this show? Yes. We actually had a large argument about that at one point where he, I mean, he wouldn't care that I share this now. He's out of radio. He'd probably laugh thinking about this. I remember we had

a pretty explosive fight where I said something along those lines. And he's like, then do it. Then run the board. Then do it. Come over here and do it. And I was like, all right. So we switched spots and I did it. And then I feel like I did it quite well. And he didn't love that. But I would say that it wasn't even an option. You know what I mean? Like when they got rid of the other guy, It wasn't like, oh, Fallon's here. She should leave. It was never, that was never a consideration. It's like, oh, God, we got to find a lead for this show, you know.

And I had never let a show. So I don't blame them for having that outlook, whether it was based on me being a female or just a new talent. Yeah, but it'd feel weird if I were hired for a job and they just had to find someone last minute, the production director to come in because they felt like they need to find another lead. I mean, that would feel weird to me regardless of what the, like, the real meaning of it was. For sure. Yes. I think I was, so everything was happening very quickly.

That was just like, okay, I'm here. Like, we have to figure this out and make it work. I can't afford to move back to Indiana. How long did you do that job? Two years to the day. So you served your time. I did. I mean, I interviewed, I started the exact date.

I started in Reno two years later in Minnesota. So did you go from Reno to Minneapolis? Yes. And was that to be on Dave Ryan's show? So how did that come into play? Did you have to interview? Did you know there were a lot of other people going for the job? What happened there?

Yeah, I interview. So I was interviewing for two large shows at the time. One out of Atlanta. I did not get that. Kristen did for the Burt show. And I was like, man, that was like my chance. That was that was it. And I saw Dave's show opening and I pulled up his podcast and I'm listening and I'm like feeling like, okay, like I could vibe with these people.

Like I'm I can feel where I would insert myself. So I actually full circle, the woman who ended up being Adam Smashers co-host in Deanna, Shonda, she had interned with Dave. So I call her up and I'm like, because this is how it always is in radio. What's Dave's personal email address? I don't want to go through the main thing. He'll never hear me. So she got me his personal email address and I emailed him and I said, hey, I was like, I got a lot of winter coats.

I'm willing to, like, get me out there. And he was like, yeah, I mean, we don't have a budget to fly anyone else out. Like we flew one person out there, they're not giving us the budget. And I said, I'll fly myself out. He's like, well, I can't say no to that. And I said, do you guys work on Martin Luther King like MLK Day? And he's like every year we work on that day. So this was huge for me.

It was a $500 plane ticket. I was making like, I think maybe $27,000 a year. $500, that's a lot of money for me. I put it on a credit card and Dave calls me back like two days later after the point of being able to cancel a plane ticket. He's like, hey, if anything, like we don't work on MLK day this year. So can you come the next day? And I was like, mm-hmm.

And I didn't say like, oh, I'm screwed. So I booked a second $500 flight on my credit card. And when I flew out for the interview, I did tell him. And he goes, all right, well, if you get the job, we'll reimburse you for one of those. I was like, okay, I better get your job because I don't know how I'm going to get $1,000 to pay for this. And the first day, it felt very good. It felt very natural. And I was like, I don't know, this is like going pretty well.

And then they have, they're like meeting and they're talking. They're like, hey, can you extend your flight and stay an extra day? And I was like, I knew. I was like, okay. Like, if they want me to stay an extra day, they like me. So I was like, yep. and I flew back to Reno. They knew.

They're like, you took your headphones with you. Were you doing a job interview? And I was like, yes, I was. And they're like, because you've never called in sick ever. And you called in sick two days in a row and your headphones were gone. I'm like, yeah, I didn't play that out very. I don't know, whatever. And yeah, the boss offered me the job like two days later.

So did you know they were going to offer you the job? Did you feel good? Are you an optimist generally? I am a I think I thought at the time if I get the interview I'll get the job if they just if I just get in that room with that show I will get the job. Am I optimist? No, I am the biggest pessimist. It's a glass half empty almost all the time. But I do have I do people have described me as confident, which is weird because I don't find myself. I don't find that I am confident but I guess people perceive me as confident. So maybe I maybe I am confident. and myself in that way. Completely different dynamic going to that show because Dave Ryan had been in Minneapolis

as like a real force for, I'm not sure how long, but I would assume decades at that point. Yeah, I was there for his like 20th and 25th anniversary, I think. So yeah, he was coming up on like, I think his second decade when I was there. That was more of a get in and fit in and then be who you are. I mean, how hard is that to get into an organization

that is already a will that knows how to roll? It was and wasn't because I will, I will give Dave credit for this. He didn't, like, he didn't want me to be anyone else. He was pretty good at being like, no, be you. I mean, he might guide me on some storylines, like, let's enhance that or whatever. But the hardest part for me was just coming in after an incredibly beloved co-host. Like, she was, like, people loved her. So I was very different from her.

And so that was actually the hardest part. is the comparison to her for a long, it lasted a very long time. Are you talking about Angie? No, Lena. Okay. So did they go Angie, Lena, then you? There was one other girl, but I think she was only over her a couple of weeks. So, yes.

Oh, dang. So she didn't get her flight reimburse, probably. The Bobbycast, we'll be right back. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers?

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Why did you leave the show? I was with Dave for, geez, I don't know, 12-ish years, 11, 12 years. Wow. Really? I didn't know it was that long. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Wow. Okay, so you're with Dave for over a decade yourself. Okay, I'm sorry to interrupt. Go ahead.

Yeah. And then, you know, there, it was kind of like, I think that I think that we needed a change. I'll be honest. I think that like both of us needed a change. I think he wanted a show refresh. I needed to go and try to host a show because that was my goal. It was to host a show. And I was never, I mean, I didn't know how long Dave would be there.

I mean, I thought maybe Dave's going to be here for honestly 10 more years. And if this is what I want to do, like, I got to get out of my comfortable little nest here. And I got to go see if I can actually host a show or not. So they let me do a two-person afternoon show, which had never been done on KB. So same station, but you moved to afternoons. Correct. And they let it be a little bit more, like, I'd say quite a bit more talk than it ever had been. It was very standard top 40 afternoon talkover song intro jock show before.

And they let it be a two-person show. But it was still a difficult transition to host, but also just talking dramatically less, playing way more music. It was definitely a big learning curve. Were you leading that with your co-host? And how did you find the co-host? Yes. It was, so initially they put me on with a guy who had been doing the afternoon show for a while, Zach. And, you know, I think, I think Zach would agree with this. I would say we didn't have the

perfect vibe. He was, I would say, more of a solo guy. Like, he's, you know, and I, I was looking for someone who was maybe, maybe on a more similar path of, like my style of humor, maybe, or, you know, something like that. So I found he actually had a good opportunity within our building to go host a morning show and at a different radio station in our building. And they were like, okay, so I found a guy that used to do nights on our station who I always liked. I always kept in contact with. Didn't know if we'd have a, you know, how it would work. But we, so we brought Colton from Texas. He's still there. He's still on Texas, same show. It still tracks it every day.

And I felt immediate. It was, Colt is the best chemistry I've ever had with anyone ever. Did you think, one, that you would want to do mornings again? Or, and if you did, that you'd have to leave again since Dave had been there for so long, and there was no real sign that he was ever going to leave? So I, I, the, my mental plan was, let's figure out this show with Colt, see if it can be something and if it is yes 100% I wanted to go back to mornings um I didn't want to stay in afternoons I wanted to try it and give it a fair shot because I thought maybe I was like maybe

I will like afternoons I don't know and then I did not like afternoons so um I immediately pretty quickly it was like I want to go back to mornings and so I think there was like a couple of thoughts if I don't get the opportunity to do it here because it's like Dave gets to decide when he leaves you know that's he's he's a great talent if he's he's a great talent if he's he's not ready, then I personally didn't really want to move again. You know, I didn't want to like go start. I had built a like my thing here. So it was kind of like, okay, what's the option?

Do I keep doing afternoons and see if we can build that? Like, see if we can like syndicate that out across like as an afternoon syndicated show. And then we picked up one market in that time in Salt Lake and kind of was like, okay, we'll see how this feels. And how to feel? Interesting. because we don't like a lot of syndicated shows have a producer or something.

We did not. And it wasn't full syndication. We were doing, and I don't know, maybe I don't know what syndication is, but it was repurposing a lot of our show, but it was also recording a lot of new breaks every single day. So I think I was surprised by how much new content we had to create for that station. And it was even shorter format than our current ones. We had to chop down dramatically without the help of a producer. And I still had like a day to another job.

I was doing TV this whole time too during the day. So it was kind of like there was a lot going on. What were you doing on television? I do a nationally syndicated television show. It's called The Jason Show. We're on in like 53 markets. So we just actually our new season started on Monday and we kicked off in LA this year. So or the season.

So that's our new one. Yeah, I saw that on social media. What do you do with that show? I'm just his sidekick co-host. I sit on the couch and I interact. And it's a very low-key job. That show's been on for like 11 or so years, very well-oiled machine producers, assistant producers, photographers, audience coordinator, all that.

So I don't do pretty much anything for that show other than show up. Do you see him and go, I want that job? No. I do not. You know, because I have them before. You know, you never know. You may see it. People ask me all the time if I like.

TV or radio better. I am a radio person through and through. I like and also yeah, no, I, I did not have that desire. So when did it come to fruition that maybe Dave would leave and that maybe you were the person to replace him? So, I mean, I was under the impression that I was the succession plan for a while if and when that time came. That wasn't like, but I also don't believe anyone ever. I'm always like, they will say what you want to hear to keep you around as long as they can. So I was like in the back, like, I was like in my heart. I hope they're telling the truth in my head. I don't believe anything. So I mean, you know, because I was like, I don't know, for all I know, they've told like five other people their his succession plan. So, and that's not to say I don't

trust my direct boss. I do, but I also just know how big businesses work. I was like at the end of the day, does he get the final say? I don't know. So I, it was pretty quick, I would say. It was when he made the decision, it was pretty quick meetings of, is this something you still want? I'm like, well, yeah, but like, can I have it this way? And they're like, you can have this, this, and this and so it was a quick turnaround. Do you think a little bit? And it would just be just a fractured piece of it, that you having to follow somebody like Lena, I think you mentioned, and having to constantly live in that shadow and build your own. Do you think it gave you just a little introduction to what was going to happen with Dave,

who had been on the air forever and was so beloved? Maybe. I guess I was like, I was so curious what it would be like going in with Dave. I actually wasn't afraid of it in the same way, though, because I understood the Lena aspect because it was like, I don't know. I feel like they at least got to know me at this point before I took over for Dave. It was just immediate judgment with Lena. They didn't get to know me.

And I get it. It was like face value. So I didn't think it would be like that. Also, people are interesting with girls. It was a much, I mean, a lot of my comparisons with Lena were that I wasn't tall and blonde. And they didn't like how I looked compared to Lena. You know what I mean? Which was just like funny to me because I'm like,

on radio. I don't know. So you had to follow Dave. How long was he on forever in Minneapolis? Like third. I think he was hitting 33 years. Jeez. I know. It's like crazy amazing. And do they give you guys any buffer between him leaving and you going on? No. So it's just the next next rises. I mean, shows over. We had Memorial Day off and then we started Tuesday. He was like, he was Friday. We had Memorial Day off. It started Tuesday. Geez. I honestly didn't want a big buffer, though. Yeah, you were already a part of the station, and you were already with Dave for a while, too.

I do think that helped a bit bridge it. A thousand percent. Yeah, people already knew me. Jenny, who is a co-host on the show. She was on Dave's show. So they already knew Jenny. They felt comfortable with her. Colt was the newest wild card.

And even though he had done nights for a couple of years, it had been a long time. But they did get to know him with me in the afternoon show if they listened to the afternoon show. So there was familiarity with him. So I definitely think that made all the difference. I think it would have been pretty rough for probably a whole new show coming in. Did you feel the need to go in and just make it your own immediately? Yes. Yes, I did.

Because I was like, if they're going to hate me or my bits, it's not going to be because they're like, she does this worse than he did or something. It's like it's going to be because they just don't like my content or our content. They don't like our ideas or our sense of humor. I didn't want them comparing the same, I don't know, the same bits. I was like, there's going to be enough comparison. And I think it would be weird to try to do what he did anyway because like the thing about Davis, he did pretty much everything on radio well, better than well. So I'm not trying.

I was like, I'm not going to be trying to be. Dave. Did you feel like there was constant oversight your first, and you still may feel it? Because how long have you, first question, how long have you been on now doing the morning show? A little over three months. Do you still feel it all the time, them just watching and making sure that what you're doing is working?

You can't ever tell if something's working, but they at least need to act like they are, or do you feel pretty free? Well, right now I feel pretty free because I would say the ratings are very good. but I know how that goes. If that shifts, I think there'll be a lot more, like, on me probably, figuring out, okay, what do we need to do? Or what do we need to reel back or what do we need to shift or change? Do you enjoy it more than you thought you would being in control of that show in that city?

Do I enjoy it more? Do you enjoy it different than you thought? I really like it. It's weird. So I like hosting, but you know what I'm at? And I think I do a good job. I think I've gotten better just in the past three months, honestly, because in the beginning, I was like, okay, Fallon, get your crap together.

Like, you got to, you know what I mean? Like, everyone's going to be watching your every little stumble here. So like, get it together. And I felt confident in leading like the team and everything on the air. And I liked the bits who were coming up with and everything. But one of the things that I feel like I was exceptionally good at was reacting. And there is reaction when you're a host, but there's less reaction when you're a host because you're leading. And I'm like, and I feel like I'm pretty good at making someone feel like they're really funny or their like story is really interesting because I'm a pretty great.

reactor. So, you know, it's kind of like figuring out this is a different spot. It just is. It's just different. But I like it. And I think it's good for me to be challenged, honestly, in something different. So I like that challenge. And I still get to react because I think like Colt and Jenny are incredibly funny. So they get some pretty good belly laughs out of me. You know, there is a whole new role that you have to take whenever you lead a show and you know this and you probably knew that is the afternoon show too where you have to do a lot of setting up of other people and you have to let them be the star so you can be the star which is not even an ego thing it's just something you have to learn how to do so the show can successfully function has it been a bit of a crash course

with that since you have more people on the show in the morning um actually it was i think it Yeah, I guess in a little, for, no, I think it was like riding a bicycle. I think it took a second for us to all, like, I think Colt is like such a respectful guy. He like is one of the few guys I know that's super comfortable being the co-host and not needing to be the host. And I don't know a lot of guys like that. And he's like very progressive. So I think he was just like almost like at first like, I don't want to step on Fallon and Jenny's toes. And I'm like, no, no, no.

Like you got to like put yourself in there. Like you're hilarious. Like, you've got to be inserting yourself and stuff. So it was kind of like, I felt like in the very beginning, I had to set him up a little bit of like more so just like, hey, you feel comfortable to like come in here and do this. Or like since I knew Colt and the audience didn't know him as well, bringing up things like almost like I'm filling Jenny in on Colt.

Like, oh, something you don't know about Colt is he microdoses natural deodorant. Like I had to like put and then like it like would immediately open Colt up to talk about his wife is she's a very crunchy Grinola gal. She forces him to wear a natural. deodorant and he's been sneaking real deodorant his backpack at work. So it's like I can like, okay, I got to set cult up so that people learn about his, who he is and who is like, I don't know, his home life and stuff like that. So yeah, there is an element of, I guess, pushing that. And then in the very beginning, it was just like, let's make sure we're all like not talking

on top of each other and feeling comfortable though enough. So there was a little bit of a challenge, I guess, to answer your question in a very long-winded way. But I don't know. I think it fell into place after about a month when we all kind of, I think, felt more comfortable with the clocks and the run of our show and everything. Yeah, you have to be the boss and the leader, and that's not always the same thing. You're right. And I don't love being the boss. Yeah. And if it's awkward with the people in the room, maybe it's not even you. You have to handle that because you're the boss and or the leader. What about being a boss do you not like? I don't like. sometimes like giving feedback um when i feel like you know so there's just something someone needs to

work on and um because i've just had i've worked with people before that man they gave me so much feedback so often it just killed my spirit and i'm like i'm not bad at receiving feedback but if i get just beat down every single day it's it kills me so i am like so like i don't want to be like that to them. I don't want to feel like I'm beating them down every day. So like one thing that I just try to do is like I'm, I feel like I do, I am an emotionally run person, which is not the greatest thing, maybe as a leader, but that's who I am. And it's not going to change. And so early on my husband, he was like, make sure you are praising in public and you are critiquing in private. And I was like, okay. So if I'm upset by something that happened on the show, even if I want to be like,

hey, let's not do that again. I'm not going to do that in that room. I'm going to wait and do it in private, which is not a natural emotion for me because I like to just, like, that's my fight style. My fight style is like, let's get this done,

let's figure it out and move on. And then, and so it's kind of like, I don't like having to critique people or remind, I don't like having to overly remind people of things because then it makes me feel like I'm nagging and I don't like that.

I feel like what I had to learn as far as the most important, lesson of being someone who was in charge with multiple personalities was that everybody needs to be managed differently because I thought it would feel unfair if I manage people differently because everybody should have be held to the same standard. And it really wasn't about standards. I think the more I've learned about communication styles and how people like to get feedback, how they don't. I think for me, that has been massive in that everybody that I work with, I have a different way to communicate with them about what I need to communicate with them about.

but that took a while for me. It's funny you say that because I just had that conversation with them the other day. And I told them how they all received feedback. And they laughed about it because they all do receive it on the show so differently. Jenny gets the feedback and immediately says, okay, and she immediately fixes it. If I tell Mike, our assistant producer, he's a little snippy at first, but then he'll go do it. And Colt, I joke that he likes to turn it back around on me. like it was me like I was the problem and then he'll be like fine and move on and fix it so I have to

approach yes them all very differently okay so what's the goal what in five years what do you want to be happening I genuinely want to grow digitally I want to um because I love radio but I'm not unaware of where it's going digitally I want to grow our digital presence um I'm not like I'm someone who I want to be successful in a way that makes it impossible, which is impossible, for them to, for my show to be fired. I want us to be so successful that like we're not afraid to lose our jobs all the time. And you laugh, but that's true. I mean, that you're right. It's true. I laugh out of pain. I'm really rooting for you, obviously. I think you are. a unicorn and it's not about you being a dude or a woman. It's just the kind of personality that you are

and you're also extremely versatile. And so I'm rooting for you. I don't envy the spot of having to go on after somebody after three decades on the air, but if there's somebody that can do it, it's you. And so, you know, we had many conversations and what do I know except what I've been through. But I'm rooting for you and I really appreciate you coming and talking with me. And as always, you know, I can tell you how I've messed up many, many, many times. And maybe that can lend to what you guys are going through. But Fallon, great to talk with you. And I'm rooting for you.

That's all. Oh, well, it means a lot. Thank you. And people don't know this. But yes, you, one thing I said to you was even before, like, I think I kind of met you right as you maybe were going into Nashville. And you were always very kind to, I don't know, I think some people, they do, they change. And you were never like that to me.

You were always kind and I don't know, willing to give advice or listen. And I felt weird like, it's okay if I talk to and you're like, yeah, why is that? Why? Yeah, sure. Let's chat. And I was like, oh, okay. This is normal. Wait, can I ask?

I have questions for you. Am I allowed to ask? Are you out of time? If you're out of time, that's fine. I have time for one. Okay. Make it good. Real good.

Pressure's on. I'm going to give you an average question at best. Okay. Okay. Let's see. Well, I was going to go with a work one, but I'm going to go with a work one, but I'm going to go with something that you probably have a quick answer for us since you have short time. What's a very specific

thing that instantly makes you like someone? It's not that I have short time. I had a bad cupcake and my stomach is killing me. Yeah. And I just texted my wife and I said, when do the cupcakes come in because my stomach is killing me? She said Thursday, they're probably expired. So like the last four minutes of this, I've really been clenching. And so it's not that I have to run out of time on you. It's that

I'm about to expire. I'm about to expire. Yeah. You've got a blowout coming. You should pop up one of your daughters diapers, you know? Well, I don't even know what your question was because I'm clenching. Ask me the question again. What's a very specific thing that instantly makes you like someone? Oh, if they smile. That's easy.

I mean, the easiest. You can get it. That's the fundamental, anything you do in life. If you can get any job, you can get into any group, you can get anybody to like you. Like the key to success is having people enjoy having you around. And if somebody's just easy to be around, like my whole whole. crew, they're all pretty good at what they do. Now they're all great at what they do, but I hired them pretty good, but it's only because I like being around them. And so I think for anything to work,

you've got to be liked by the people making the decisions. So yeah, it's such a loser answer, but that's it. Like if you, obviously, all the blocking and tackling, but just smile. Are you a job interview? If I'm talking to you, be a happy person because I don't want to be around somebody that's not happy. So it's so simple. That's like get sleep, drink water. But yeah, that's that that's my answer so i wasted it i should have asked if you were a bidet guy because i am i am at hotels when they have them i get excited about the days we don't have one at the house though we we we i did at the at the old house a 20 dollar ad on come on i know i know do your do your area okay i'm let you go so you can go take care of business that's what i'm talking about right there see she knows

uh phalan thank you so much and uh again everybody go check out phallan's podcast don't listen to our live if you're listening to this don't get that's coming to me for that But if they want to go to the podcast, just the Fallon show, like, what do they look up? Fallon, Colt, and Jenny is our show name. It's long, but there it is. Look it up. If you search my name, you're not going to find another Fallon, okay? Unless it's Jimby, Fallon, then you're spelling it wrong.

Okay. Okay, so Fallon, Colt, and Jenny. Yeah. Man, that's a lot of names. I'd cut that. I was thinking about it and a couple more if you have any suggestions. I don't. I would suggest getting rid of a couple people, but that's just me.

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