The Bobby Bones Show - In The Weeds: The Worst Part of Interviewing Artist and How We Pick Segments

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

On this episode, "In The Weeds" go behind the scenes with Bobby as he answers questions like what he hates most about interviews, Deciding topics for the show, what a Producer ACTUALLY does, doing zoom interviews, saying things he regrets & much more! Plus a talk with Big Bob from a morning show in Pittsburg.  Watch The BobbyCast on Netflix! Follow on Instagram: @TheBobbyCast Follow on TikTok: @TheBobbyCast  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're going to start with some YouTube comments from the last episode. The first one says, how do you decide what topics to talk about on which shows? This is from Nora Dunn. 1712. The first thing is I keep tabs in my phone. I have seven different tabs from Bobbycast, BBS, 25 whistles, lots to say. Like I keep all the notes app right here. And then I just lay them in as it goes. And how do I decide what to actually talk about? I think I mentioned this before, it's just basically what interests me. Because if I'm not interested, it definitely ain't

going to be funny or entertaining or compelling if I'm not interested. So that's it. By the way, thanks for watching in the weeds. This is the show we talk about really inside things. We cannot believe the success of the show. So thank you guys for watching it because nobody should care about the stuff we're talking about here. This is just super inside stuff.

So another one was from Beball Jones. B-Ball Jones 21. What does it mean to be a producer? You said Kickoff Kevin is a producer. Scoob is a producer. What is a producer? I'm very curious. So if you're a segment producer, you're actually making sure that I have all the resources to do the segment.

So if Kickoff Kevin is producing a podcast, because he's an entire podcast producer of our show called Lots to Say, my NFL show with Matt Castle. He will make sure that the guest has been talked to before we go on to know where to be. He'll make sure we have the link. Anything that we sent him, he prints off. He'll also go, hey, these things just happen. happened in the news. Like he literally is making sure that everything that we need to move forward happens. Basically, a producer makes sure the talent can do the things that the talent can do. Now, that's overall. Now, there's also segment producers. For example, like Abby produces a lot of

that tell me something good. It means she goes and she finds a story. She gets them to, she matches them with whomever would be good at it. So a producer for the most part is the person to make sure that the talent has the resources to pull it off, information, guests, etc. Steve's executive producer. So he's run in the show. I'm running the show. It's my show, but like right below me and the guy that's managing all the stuff with sales, even with the show, even vacation, like Scuba Steve's doing all that. So it's all the outside work to make all the inside work that's on matter. So there are segment producers, the show producers, and then there's like an executive producer that is managing all the people as well. I know. I'll,

starting to feel guilty because that was way too in the weeds, but that's exactly why we're here. Okay, let's roll through some other stuff here. You ever say something you regret? Yes, many, many times. I would say the thing that I've said last was, and it's not that the words I said were wrong. I think the tone I said it in came off wrong, where we were doing, it may be the podcast after the show. And we were playing a voice from a listener and she said, hey, I like it when the show talks about birds.

I don't like when we talk about aliens. And I said, well, you see that name behind me right there? That's why we talk about aliens because it was my name on the show. I was totally kidding. I mean, I guess I wasn't kidding, but I would never have said it like that in real life. Obviously, everybody knows it's my show,

so I'm picking what we're talking about. But I was very much using that tone being sarcastic and a lot of people got mad at me for that one. But yeah, I also say a lot of stuff that's wrong. I mean, I think if you're talking for multiple hours a day and you're talking about things, just a law of averages on how many things you're going to get wrong or say wrong, you don't even mean to say wrong, it happens. So I say a lot of stuff wrong. And if I'm really wrong, I come back and go, hey, I was wrong about that.

For example, we were talking about the Carolina hurricanes who won the Stanley Cup. And I don't know why I said South Carolina because I know it's not South Carolina. I for sure know it's North Carolina. But I had to come back and be like, hey, yep, that was on me. I don't know why I said that. But yeah, I'll admit it for the most part. Here's another one. What's an annoying thing that someone does during an interview if you have them in?

Is there anything that an artist does that if you see it, you'll stop the interview? So that won't stop the interview, but something that tends to annoy me if I'm interviewing someone is when they always, always want to take every answer or every other answer back to their project. There is kind of an understanding when you come in on the show. You're coming in, obviously, you have something to promote. But I'm letting you come in because I think you're going to give me some compelling content. So we have to do that dance. You have to come in and give me some fun stories, some fun things to talk about. And in tradeoff at the beginning and at the end, or maybe a little bit in the middle, we'll talk about your project. But it's definitely a dance. There are certain artists that come

in and every answer is like yeah and it's speaking to that our project is out if that happens there are times where I don't want to have them back in at all because I don't see an artist coming in as a gift to me maybe three artists ever in one of them's garth do I go I'm just glad they're here they're coming in for a reason it ain't to see me they need to hang out it's because right now we have a pretty large platform and that platform is able to promote their project Now, they have to give something for that, and we don't take a whole lot of guests. You know, there's kind of this weird thing in Nashville with radio shows. It could be other kind of shows, too, where they just expect if a record label has an artist, that you have to say yes.

And we were one of the first shows that we ain't playing that game at all. And not only that, we took out all couches from our studios that, like, anybody in the studio that's not the artist. That was met with a bit of controversy at the time, too. because record labels will want to come sit in the studio or PR teams in the studio when we had the artist. So one of the first things that I did, because I got tired of artists looking at their label and PR person during an interview, was pull the ability for anybody to be in the room except the artist. A little awkward at first. Secondly, we don't take many guests.

And if I'm not super interested in what they're doing with their project, could be music, could be a TV show, I don't know. Or if they're not a massive name, like my audience isn't going to care. So we don't take many guests at all. And again, that has been met at times with, well, you're not a team player. I'm not on a team. I'm not on a Nashville team. I got to get people to stream my podcast or listen to my show or watch YouTube so I can keep my job.

There's no team. You don't give a crap. You're not on the team either. You're just looking out for you. So at times we're looked at in a way that's not super positive because we don't take a lot of guests. I have to be really interested in what they're doing or they got to be a big enough name to keep our listeners listening. But what do they do that is annoying. And it doesn't happen a lot now.

It's when they always want to talk about their project. Because it's straight off. You have to come and give me something good. in an exchange, I will promote your project. So that would be that answer. Do you look at your audience the same? Those that listen on the radio, those that listen on the podcast, and those that watch on YouTube, they're very different.

Now, you may watch or listen on all three, but they are very different. On the radio, the live radio show, it's so hard to get people to stay because while people are listening live, life is happening. Kids in the car, they're at work. Like, whatever it is, it's life.

So I got to hit and go fast, get to the point, hook, grab, get in, do my business, get out. It's very much like that. It is a fire drill live. On podcast, you very much chose to be there. With radio, there's a bit of passive listening as well

where people will just have it on and they won't be listening fully. Or, they're flipping through at times and you're trying to get understood but it's very passive and I know that and so I got to hook you hard

if you're passive listening if you're listening on podcast I can actually be at times a little bit boring because you came there for a reason and I don't have to worry about grabbing you, hooking you and just entertaining you so hard

your eyeballs explode. You can just kind of let stuff unfold you can naturally organically talk about stuff so you'll notice if you listen to the part two podcast of our show, it is very much just hanging out with friends. Part one is the radio show. We got to go.

As soon as that thing hits, all right, here's what we're doing. Let's go. Four and a half minutes, get out, go to the next thing. Podcast, you can chill a little bit because people chose you. But yes, the audiences are different.

It's why we do, you know, two and a half hours of content every single day digitally because we know the audience is so different. Do you like guesting on other shows? Not really, mostly because if I have something that I want to talk about, I have a lot of avenues to talk about it. And sometimes I feel like I'm just regurgitating stories when I go on and I'm a guest on other people's shows, other people's podcasts. And if I'm not promoting anything specifically, I don't really have a reason to be on anybody's show. So, I'll go in. I like to go and be a part of somebody's show. Like to sit in on a show if they're doing it and I get to just be a part of that vibe,

that element. Yes. To actually be the person being interviewed, not really. Not my thing. I'll do it, especially if it's a cool show that I listen to or sometimes the company will hit me up and go, hey, we'd like for you to do this podcast so you can promote your podcast. But for the most part, I don't do a lot of guest hits unless I know the person or I'm really interested in the show. If someone says, hey, we're doing a show. Do you want to sit in? I'll do that nine out of ten times because I can just say stuff. I can just comment on stuff. That's really what I do anyway, just comment on stuff, talk about stuff. So if I can do that, that's fun for me. But for the most part, no. And also I do so many shows. I don't have a lot of time to do other people's shows.

How do you feel when people say you have changed? We get this a lot. And I always, I love it because I have. Some people will say, you're just not the same as you were back when you were in Austin in 2003. You're right. You know who's also not the same from 2003? You. And if you are the same of 2003, oh my God, you need help. It's time to go a little bit. So I have changed dramatically in many ways. As a person I have changed significantly. So obviously the show is going to change. But also, how I do the show has changed because how the show is done

has needed to be changed. I was freaking crazy the first 10 years of my career. We were eating Sundays out of each other's butts as a losing a prank battle. We don't do that stuff anymore. I just don't find that stuff

as funny anymore either. But when people say, hey, you've changed. Yeah, I have. I have changed a lot. And I think I mentioned this on another show. I also have a full staff of people that if I screw up, there's a decent chance that my screw up affects their lives

too. So I'm going to mess up, but if I mess up dramatically, there is a really good chance that it messes up the lives of everyone that works on my staff as well, because there's a chance they just go, done. You're done, and if you're done, everybody's done. Now, would there be a couple people that survived? Probably and possibly. But I have to to think about that. I'm messing with other people as well. I didn't always have to think about that, especially when I started out, because it was just me, and I was running. I was trying to survive. And now I'm trying to allow it to survive. So, yeah, I've changed a lot, no doubt. Let's see, here's one. I don't love it when you do remote interviews. And by remote,

I think they mean if someone's on Zoom. I agree. Three, Zoom interviews are not my favorite thing either, mostly because the timing isn't always right because there's a little latency in the internet. And so I don't do a lot of them. Some of them, I don't want to say no to because I'd rather have it on Zoom than not have it at all. An example of that is, and when I'm recording this, it's not out yet. You may be seeing this and it may already be out. I don't like doing Zoom interviews, but John Stamos was, hey, want to be on the podcast. I'm not going to say no to John Stamos. So he zoomed it up and he had headphones. Now headphones help a lot too because if someone's listening through their computer, the sound has to come out, they have to let it finish, then they talk and it just kills the vibe in the back and forth. He had headphones on, so there was no, that split second matters a ton in conversation.

that was a really good one it's rare that zoom interviews end up being really good because specifically of that you got to wait for them to finish talking if you talk over each other then you both stop and then it's this awkward pause of when does the next person talk that sucks what i love is when if i'm doing a zoom interview they have headphones or ears and a microphone then it's as close to real as it can possibly be but you're not really but you're right, it's not the same. If we do 10 interviews on the Bobbycast, I need eight of them, eight and a half of them to be in person. Because I don't feel like I'm a great Zoom interviewer. I get a bit impatient too on Zoom. We talk over each other a couple times. I'm like, I'm out,

I'm out. Let's just wrap this thing up. So I like you, agree. Zoom interviews aren't as good as in person, but I have to weigh what I'd rather interview them on Zoom than not at all. And there have been a couple after I finished. I think it was not at all. But a lot of them end up being better than I even thought they were when it was over because I go into it with such a negative attitude going, oh, we got to do that interview on Zoom. When I'm interviewed on Zoom for stuff, I got a freaking microphone and I got ears in because I know from the other side of it, how important that is. But I agree with you completely. And we ask people to,

hey, on this Zoom interview, will you make sure you have a microphone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they show up and there's no microphone. It drives me crazy. Up the wall. Thank you very much. Something else I wanted to address.

We were playing a game on the Bobby Bone show. Not a game that I put together or Mike. But Lunchbox said, I want to play a game where I give you two artists and you have to pick one of them that gets to stay in your life forever and one that has to go away forever. You never get to hear.

hear them again. And he said, we're going to do George Strait versus Taylor Swift. And I've gotten some pushback on this one. And I said, I'll take Taylor Swift. And Amy said, I'll take George Strait. I just don't want to deal with the Swifties, guys. That's the answer. I just didn't want to deal with Swifties that day. And sometimes you make a business decision. And in that day, in that time, because I didn't know what he was going to ask. When we play games, nobody knows what any of the questions are if they're playing the game. Like nothing on our show is scripted out. Nothing on our show is known ahead of time. Heck, I would say 95% of the times that anything is even talked about on my show, the rest of the show does not know it's coming.

Occasionally, I will say to the show member, hey, we're going to talk about this. And I know that that happened like 11 days ago, but I've had a note here. So when I go to it, just know that that's what I'm talking about. And that'll be 30 seconds before we go on the air. But I never want anybody to be so prepared that they've got something thought out that they want to say. Same with games. And when he said, keep forever and one goes away, George Strait and Taylor Swift, my life flashed before my eyes. And I said, I don't want to deal with the Swifties. I'm keeping Taylor Swift. Now, I don't know if it'd be different if you ask me that right now. Like whose music have I listened to more over my lifetime? Probably George Strait because he's been around longer from when

I was a kid. Who's had the bigger bangers in the past 15, 20 years? Obviously, it's Taylor Swift. but a lot of people said, man, that was quick to the Taylor answer. I say, yeah, because I don't want to deal with the Swifties on this beautiful day. But that's why. Here's one. If you're gone, how does the show get done? I think what they're referring to because I looked at the date was Eddie and I had to go down to Florida to meet with some clients and we played golf and had to speak at a big client event. We went to Palm Beach.

I don't think I've ever been to Palm Beach before. I especially haven't been to this part of Palm Beach. before because it was really rich. He just drove around and everything looked gold. And there were yachts. And so we go, we go to this crazy club that I'd never been to. I'm not sure the name of the club, but I did basically do the Zillow. You know, you drive by someone's house, you want to know how much it's worth.

So you just zillow it. I just Googled how much it would cost to be a member of the club and it was $400,000 entry fee. Was that kind of club? It was wild. So we go play golf there. two clients are with us. I got very lucky because sometimes those type of events can be very stiff. And if you're playing golf with somebody,

it may not feel intimate, but you're with them for four hours. And you get somebody that's stiff. It ruins around, and it feels like it's 10 hours long. Got very fortunate that the two clients we were with were really nice guys. We didn't even talk business. And honestly, most business on a golf course isn't talked about until halfway through the last hole, unless you've already been working on it a little bit. Like you're spending that first 17 and a half holes just getting to know each other, hanging out, becoming boys.

And so I googled the entry fee to that club. Like I said, close to half a million dollars. We play golf all day. Got to go back to the room. Got to, I got to get dressed and put on some nice clothes because I'm going to go up and talk to all. all of these advertisers, including the ones that I was with, but some that I hadn't even met. I'm doing some jokes and talking about, you know, why it's great to advertise. And I mean everything I'm saying, but mostly I'm talking about the relationship that

the listening and the viewing audience has with specific talent. And there was a lot of talent out there. Eddie and I were out there. Clay Travis, Clay and Buck from that show was out there. Brady Quinn, who's on Fox Sports, played quarterback at Notre Dame, was out there. member Steve Harvey's show. It was that kind of thing, right? So they have me up. I was the only talent that was talking. And I spent a little time to tell a couple jokes. It ends. But all of that was from early that morning until that night on a Friday. And so we were open about it. So in that

type of situation, we have recorded that show. We recorded that one Thursday afternoon. But the reason that Fridays are so easy is because if we have a guest, we never do the them live anyway, ever. I stopped doing live interviews with artists forever ago because I knew they didn't want to be there that early because they don't naturally wake up that early. So there's not an interview that we do pre-930, usually 10, sometimes 10-30. So we had had an interview already recorded. We did the rest of the show Thursday afternoon and the show, the executives were like, hey, we could pre-record your show and head out. Now, the other part of the question was, what do the other show members do while you're gone? Nothing. They sleep in. Scoobo Steve has to go in for a little bit

because he's running the show. Ray goes in to run the audio. But the people in the room, Amy, lunchbox, Morgan, nothing. They sleep in. They don't have to go in at all. So if for some reason we have to pre-record like that Friday, they ain't going in. They basically got a day off. That's pretty sweet. That's a good question, though. Do you have any new hobbies or anything you're obsessed with? I love sports cards and I really have to keep it at arm's linked because I tend to go really hard. I've also incorporated something new into my life

that's very much a one-in, one-out policy. Like go back to the days when you go to the club or the bar and it's packed. Somebody had to come out before somebody went in, right? And so I was going through a lot of my cards. And I've got one of my tabs in my phone is sports cards. And I have a bunch here that I went through because having Chad GBT and having Claude, and what I'll do is I'll take a picture of them and say, hey, what's the conservative value?

And then I'll compare them against each other and take the average of the conservative value. And so I have like my top 15 cards that I have in my house. Somebody I have in a safe as well. But I got really, really, really, really into it. like unhealthily into it, which I've done with a lot of things in my life. Luckily, never drugs, but that's why I'd be terrible at drinking or drugs because I would want to win it. I'd want to win doing drugs, win the drinking contests.

So I haven't. But I'm one in one out. Anytime I buy anything stupid, like an expensive card, I make sure to take that exact amount of money and make sure to do something good with it. And sometimes, let's say there's an expensive card. And I go, okay, that's, I'm just going to use a number. That's $5 million. I can do that.

But that means I got to do $5 million for good. Oh, crap, $10 million ain't in. So because that, that has allowed me to not do as stupid as stuff. But if I buy something stupid, I match it and do something good because I have extreme guilt about buying stupid stuff. But mostly it's with cards. With a bit of memorabilia, still, dabble in the memorabilia world. I got crazy into pickleball to the point where I was always

buying new rackets or paddles, but wife caused them rackets. But I tore my ankle. I went cold turkey. I'm not playing pickleball for the first time until actually tomorrow will be the first time I'm back on the court after my horrendous injury. People are still talking about it. Oh, not really. But the baby has taken over our life right now. So there's really no time for any crazy hobbies. But I have reorganized all my cards. Cards are better than memorabilia because they don't take up as much space. Like I got like 14 or 15 really cool signed helmets. It takes up a whole freaking room. I got 14 or 15 cards. It's like this right here. Now there's a crazy bubble on the cards though and you just kind of wait for this thing to bust. But no, I have no crazy hobbies,

but I do have new ways to handle keeping me from having new crazy hobbies because if I spend money on anything stupid. I got to match it and do something good with it. And I like doing good with it, but sometimes I don't want to spend all that money. So there you go. Okay, what we're going to do now is we're going to go over. I was talking to Big Bob from Pittsburgh. I knew him from back in the day. He was on the freak show in Detroit and they went to Philadelphia. We'll talk about all this. But this is so in the weeds that I thought, let's just talk to another guy who's got a massive show and just see how he does this show. I mean, again, this is extremely in the weeds. you may not find this interesting or you may be completely enthralled by hearing somebody that's got a

successful morning show talking about his journey. So this is Big Bob from Kiss FM in Pittsburgh and I getting even deeper in the weeds. Here you go. All right, that's going to be it for this episode of In the Weeds. Thank you everybody for watching. If you got this far, God bless you. I got bored halfway through and I'm the one doing it. We're so in the weeds. Thank you for for the continued support. I cannot believe that you guys watch the show. I can't believe the numbers it does on YouTube. We will see you guys again soon.

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so I'm just like instead of driving back up to the radio station, 45 minutes. I'm like, can I swing by and record here? So he has a dual pavement media company? Yeah, he's got his hand in a lot of businesses. His studio is actually nice to than ours. I knew guys like that, though, but when they had their hand in a lot of businesses, it usually was criminal.

No, he's pretty good dude. One of the best I know. Honestly. Is your real name Bob? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it Bobby or Robert or what? No, I'm a Bobby. I'm a Bobby too.

Like a real life, everyone thinks that I'm a robber, but I'm a real life Bobby. Buddy. We are a rare breed. Yeah. And I used to think my name was young because the name Bobby is not.

I thought like adult is Bob. And then Bobby was young. And then I realized my wife laughed at me. And she said the name was most popular in like 1936. So it's not really a young name at all. We're one of the few. We're one of the few. You're Y, right? I mean, obviously. I am, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I was B O B B B B B B B, I, I would lie. I would change it. I would legally change it. I work with a B O B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Bail.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's a, if I was a girl, that's fine. My daughter's name is Billy with an I. But her grandpa, my wife's dad's name is Billy with a Y. Anyway, we haven't officially met ever except just on Instagram or whatever. but I was doing this podcast and wanted to talk to other like hosts that I thought were really good. And I've kind of been following you guys' career for a while. So you and Mikey and everybody that's listening, you can go listen to the podcast, Mikey and Bob. It's called Mikey and Bob, right? Yeah, yeah. So, but it's the, you guys are the freak show live, but the podcast is Mikey and Bob, right?

Or it's not the freak show anymore? We are the freak show in very much the same way that you are Bobby Bone. like it was the name handed over to us that we were to take and as the years went on we're just like why aren't we just Mike and Bob that's our real name just like there's there's nothing fake or phony it's very early 2000s radio you know so one of those situations are you guys still titled the freak show in some things but we go as Mike and Bob usually with all our like inside imaging and whatever whatever else what about but you're Instagram is, isn't it still like FS Big Bob?

Yeah. I can't get the Big Bob from anybody. I contacted the guy years ago to try to wheeze a little away from him, and he was just a total jerk, so. I tried to buy Bobby Valence from a guy once, and he, one, didn't use the account, and still, two, wouldn't sell it to me. And if I don't have it across all platforms, there's no need for me to have it on one because it's so confusing to have it one and not the other. So... Yeah, 100%. I didn't know you have a weird relationship with freak show like I do Bobby Bones because I hate my name.

It's just who I am now. It was handed down to us. I mean, we were on a show to start out with. We started as interns and kind of worked our way onto a night show with another guy named Tick-Tac. And he was always Tick-Tac in the Freak Show, like a cast of characters. And we were the cast of characters, basically. So we went and did nights with him. And as we moved to mornings, it just made more sense to carry it on, I guess.

is what we are known. And then once we were in the market for a year or two, maybe a little longer than that, we just switched slowly to Mike and Bob. I mean, people still call us the freak show. And, like, I'm sure there's still a piece or two of imaging on someplace on a radio station that says the freak show. But when we're talking on the air, it's just Mike and Bob.

I remember when you guys were doing nights with Tick-Tac way back in the day in Detroit, right? How did you guys get to be a part of that show? you were interns as the radio station? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't, I went to one semester of college, a community college, and didn't really know what the hell was going to do with my life.

And there was a broadcasting school locally. And me and Mike grew up together, like to go back all the way. We grew up together, played Little League Baseball together, went to school together. We've been friends since we were probably eight years old. So it's a unique situation on top of everything else. Did you guys go interned together?

I interned first, and then Mike took my spot in the promotions internship and then I moved on to a paid promotion spot and so how did you guys end up getting on that night show? We were wandering around Tick-Tac sauce. He was very much a person that would walk around and pull people in like interesting people that he saw in the hallways and we just kind of stuck.

It was very much at the time too where if you were a big guy, you were the stunt guy, you know, It was that kind of radio. So I was sent out on the streets to do wacky things, try to get myself arrested basically every night. And it kind of transitioned from there. Yeah. And then we went to, we went from Detroit,

and we got fired from Detroit. Oh, you did? Interesting. Yeah, yeah. Was there anything that led to that specifically? It was an ABC station, and we were pushing every limit that we could, basically. at night to just be the edgy night show and owned by Mickey Mouse, you know, at that time.

We were probably pushing a little too far. I think there was one point where we took movie passes. I mean, it was all the listeners' benefit, but one of the Lord of Rings movies was coming out, and we took a bunch of movie passes from the promotions department without telling anybody. And that was not a good morning after we took everybody out to a movie performance. or a night at the movies with us. That kind of started it. And then there were, I mean, there were other things

because the guy that we were on the show with was really the lead, and he was the one who was paid the most out of all of us. So he had the most responsibility, and things kind of went sideways. How did that go when they told you were fired? It's really an interesting story. They let me and Mike work on our air check, because we were just the kids, right?

So we were going up there at night, middle of the night working on our air check, not during the daytime. And we go to go in the station and we're in a big old historic building in Detroit. We scan our card and it dings red. It's just like there's no way. Just like all of our air check stuff's in there. And we're making fake air checks, you know, like it's nothing even that we're on the air really for. Or we're cutting up stuff that we did on the night show, just cutting tick-tac out of it and making me and Mike. So it dings again, dings again. We email our promotions director at the time. He's just like, sorry guys, you've been let go. That's how we found out.

Wow. So you threw an email. You didn't even get back up to your office. No, no. They didn't tell you before you even got back to work. No, no. It was all shut off, man. And then we played Madden on Mike's back porch for like three months and sent out air checks at that time. He had to send out CDs. We sent them out to every station in the country of just me and Mike, like the little bits that we did have saved. And nobody, nobody responded. Like, we reached out, one guy, Kalamazoo, Michigan. There was a program director, but he's just like, I can't take both of you guys. They only got like 14 grand for the job. And our response was just, we'll come. Like, we'll work at the grocery store during the day and do your night show. And I think we scared

the hell out of them and never heard from again. Or he was just trying to be nice. He didn't say yes to that. He just goes to you after that? Yeah. I mean, when I say literally, everywhere, like we were Anchorage, Alaska, like we were willing to get up and go and everything, and just nothing worked out. And, I mean, at the same time, we're still friendly with the night guy that we did the show with, Tick-Tac.

So we were hanging out with him. It's really weird. There's this invisible string. You know what I'm talking about? Like when people say there's an invisible string between you and us that you probably have never heard. before. Me?

Yeah. Oh, I thought you were going into the whole invisible string. No, like an invisible string like that connects us like in a weird way

that no one will ever know. I'm anxious to hear this. When you, before you got the job in Austin, that was going to be our job. Like we were talking to people. Can you, did you lose me? No, I got you in one ear.

My ear fell out of the way. Yeah, we were talking to people. And like that was the, do you know Dom Theodore? I do, yeah. Like Dom was helping us out talking to people throughout the company and trying to get us, because we were coming from ABC and he was trying to get us over to the other company. And that was the job that came up.

And we were sitting on it for like two days and we're just like, well, it doesn't sound bad. Just like we can go do nights in Austin. Like sounds great. Like we don't know anything about Austin, Texas, but the guy who were on the show with TikTok, he was from Dallas. So I guess that was okay. and then Philly came calling, like the next day, like the next morning. Something happened in Philly where the night show got fired and Philly was offered and we were off and running.

What happened in Philly to that show? Who was the show? Somebody who is an executive someplace now, I believe. You don't want to say? I can tell you. I can send you a message and tell you who it was and what happened. I think they have a pretty prominent role in it. company that's a big company, not ours? The Austin thing was interesting because I got in a lot of trouble in Little Rock, because I was doing nights in Little Rock. I was finishing college, and we had broken into a radio station in

Little Rock and taken over on other stations, airwaves, and I got in a ton of trouble. I'm talking, bad stuff. And I thought I was going to be fired. I wasn't, but it was right after that stunt had made like the trades that I got a call from Jay Shannon and he said, hey, you should take this Austin job. I'm here. I'd never been to Austin either. And the next day, I was like, I'm out, I'm gone. I moved down, never been, moved down in a snowstorm. My favorite city I've ever lived in. Nashville's great. I was talking to my wife about this last night. She said, do you think it's just because it was that time of your life that you love Austin, you know, more than even Nashville? I said possibly that has a lot to do with it because it was just, I was broke then, but you just kind of carefree.

I was 22 years old. I mean, and I ended up getting the morning show when I was 23 there because the station was doing so poorly. That's a great city to go from Little Rock to Austin. To go from Detroit to Philly, did that feel like a massive upgrade to you guys? Upgrade, no. I mean, they were still, they were both, dude, it's so weird because they were both still top 10 markets.

but upgrade I wouldn't say but there was definitely a lot more opportunity in Philly like it was definitely the time in radio where artists at least in the top 40 still came through radio and like you know did our concerts and it was everything happening all at once and we were right in the middle of it basically and I was I was still doing the street stuff at that time so um a lot of times I would you and Mike here to TickTack go as well TickTac came with us to Philadelphia too were you guys guys all a little more equal now since you all went together? Somewhat, but I wasn't still in the studio. I was still

serving out on the street, basically. But we were all getting paid pretty decent at that point. Like not a lot. I think we moved for, I think it was $36,000. But that's a three-person night show. Wait, they paid $36,000 for all three of you? No, I think me and Mike were $36,000. I'm not sure what Tick-Tac was making, but like that was a lot of money.

invest in a night show even, you know, even now. But I was still out on the street. I was still out on the streets every night trying to get arrested, basically. Like it was the very much the jackass years. Oh, yeah. And I was just doing dumb things every night. There are plenty of times where I ended up in handcuffs or I don't actually have a police record, I don't believe. So that's, that's positive. How many times you get put into a car, a cop car? Uh, twice. For what? Once, uh, once, We had a thing we did called hump day Wednesday, where I would just go out to random businesses and drop my pants and yell it's hump day Wednesday. And I was wearing boxer shorts, obviously, but I would just hump things. So there was a time at a mattress store where I started humping a mattress and the police showed up and got me and pounded the station vehicle.

That was a rough morning. I had to go to court the next morning. then I had to go get the station vehicle out. It wasn't great. Bent through some radio times, bones. Do you look back at those, because I do, the stuff that I did like that, and go, what the heck was I thinking? Yeah. Some of it, in a ridiculous way where I go, man, I'm so fortunate.

I did not get into more trouble than I did. I look back with a real appreciation for the people who did not around. us. There are plenty of times where we could have fumbled this whole thing and it just could all been over and I would have been back in my small town. We grew up in Michigan working at the city works building, cutting lawns. You know, like it really could have went sideways so many times looking back because at that time, I don't know how much, I'm sure we brought worth to the station, but they could have disposed of us and just moved on to the next one, you know. Yeah, especially a night show.

Right. They were always first to, middays and then nights were always first to go because it wasn't like advertising cost a whole lot to be on at night. Right, right, exactly. So how long were you guys in Philly? Almost two years. How did that end?

We got the offer to come do mornings here in Pittsburgh. And we all three came. I was 22 at the time. I was 20. I just turned 20. 23. Mike was 22 and Ticktack came with us and decided within like the first month and a half maybe that he just didn't want to wake up and do mornings. And he was like, peace out. I'm done. Like we came on. We came on to our station had no morning show at that time. It was a syndicated morning show out of the middle of nowhere. I don't even, I could, I think it was Seattle. A syndicated morning show out of there that was runoff CD, probably a day or two, table. delayed and it was just awful like it was horrible and the ratings were less than one share in the morning show and within that first month and a half we came on and shocked the system and just built from

there is that the same station you're on now yeah yeah yeah and that's not on is that an iHeart station yeah yeah it's a kiss i mean most kisses are i assumed but uh and you guys have been on for how long there now? Uh, 23. Since 22. Since 22. No, 2004. Oh my God. You've been on there that long? Bro. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, my mind is blown. That is crazy. We've survived every cut. We've survived every syndication wave that's come across

their company. You've been on for over 20 years at Kiss Pittsburgh? Yeah. I mean, we've also had the chance to move to different markets along the, you know, years. And it's just like we found our home. We found our people. We make pretty good money here for Pittsburgh. And we make, you know, make the company enough money to make it worth it to keep us around. Oh, man.

My mind is blown. Did you guys keep in touch with TikTok? I haven't talked to them in probably. 15 years. Does he do radio at all now or any media? Do you know? I'm still friends with him on Facebook, so when I hop on there,

like I'll see that he's doing stuff. I think he's down in Mississippi or Missouri, somewhere down that way. I've only been to Pittsburgh a couple times. I've toured through there and played a couple theaters there. But it's always night one, and so I never get to spend any time there. And I did come in the winter once,

and it's really cold, obviously. What is really cool about the city? What is really cool about the city? I mean, I could give you a, I think a lot of people discovered during the draft the beauty of our city and just people are really nice and welcoming to people that are from out of town. We have this Mount Washington. It banks up to one side of the city and you have a complete overlook that overlooks the city.

But I mean, if I had to say one thing, It's the welcoming people that are in the city. Like there's nobody that I don't think there's anybody that visits here that's just like, man, Pittsburgh is full of a bunch of jerks, you know, like. I think my association with this city is probably what a lot of people feel that haven't spent a lot of time there. Like it's a very blue-collar, hardworking city. So that's like the town I grew up in and like the state I grew up in. So everybody kind of looks out for each other.

I mean, generally that's what Pittsburgh feels like to me as an outsider. Is that what it feels like there? No, not at all. I mean, it's very much blue collar still. Like, it's still, you know, very blue collar, but like the steel mills are gone. Those spaces have been developed for the most part into green spaces. There's a lot of tech here. Everybody has a hub here now because Carnegie Mellon University is here and pits here.

And they all have, you know, big tech headquarters and robotics and self-driving cars. have been developed here. There's plenty of other things going on than what you would picture Pittsburgh to be if you're just seeing it as the you know, everybody sees Pittsburgh as the Steel Town as the Steelers. Now it's way more beautiful

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out throwing the ball with kids. For those of those of them know, he's a Pirates player, but he's, he was an LSU guy, but is one of the best pitchers, top three now in the majors. So is that pretty normal

for the athletes in Pittsburgh to just be cool? I mean, the athletes are really down to earth for the most part, just because they're living in our community. You know, like it's not like there's a, I mean, there's nicer parts of town,

but it's just laid back. Like, when people, come here to shoot movies. I think they're blown away by how they can just wander around town freely. Like I remember Tom Hanks was here to shoot in the Mr. Rogers movie. Mr. Rogers is Pittsburgh. He's from Pittsburgh, but he was here shooting the Mr. Rogers movie. And I think he was blown away by just being able to go out to a restaurant and enjoy himself and, you know, not have paparazzi or anybody just in his face or bothering him. And I think that's how a lot of the players can move throughout the city and just enjoy themselves.

That Paul Skeen's thing was pretty cool because that's the Little League that my kids played in growing up. So it was literally right at the end of my block where he pulled up and saw the lights in the parking lot and got out. And he just started watching practice first. Like it wasn't anything that was sanctioned through the pirates or anything. He was literally driving by and saw the lights up and saw a bunch of kids, the little league kids playing, pulls over, walks out. Of course, they notice it's Paul Skeens and Circle and crazy.

And then he just joins practice. and he's watching the kids play and playing catch with him and stuff. He seems like a pretty down-to-earth, dude. Like, he's quiet, but he's very down-to-earth. How many kids do you have? Two. Do you... How public are you with them?

Pretty public. I mean, I would say when I was younger, I was way more public with them, and I didn't really worry about it. My daughter's going into her sophomore year at West Virginia University, and my son's going to be a senior in high school. And probably around maybe 12, dad talking about you on the radio all the time wasn't the coolest thing. So, you know, you just kind of transition away from it.

Yeah. But it's still, you know, you can still talk about it. Like, it wasn't like anything that I came up and it was just like, I wouldn't want to embarrass her anyways, you know? Like, she's some people, I know, I know in the past, I, I, I know. in the past I've heard other hosts talk about just like they've talked about their kids all the way through and it's just like that was not going to be my choice you know like people still know who they are they they still show up on my Instagram and everything else and they have their own pages now and but talking about like personal things that are happening in their lives hands off for me at least what about

mikey does he have kids yeah he's one daughter she's a she's going at her sophomore year at pit University of Pittsburgh. I'm always curious about people and their kids now because we just had our first baby. And so our daughter is now three and a half months old. And my wife is a very private person. Like she, if it were up to her, she wouldn't exist to the public at all. She doesn't do much on social media. So, you know, I've had to find a happy medium because for me, I was by myself forever. And so it was all out there. Because what did I care? If it's just about me, You weren't going to hurt me by knowing everything about me. But when I met my wife, and she was very private, that was a bit of a foundation shock for me, and it was worth it.

But now, you know, she's, you know, kind of decided, and I'm with her, but she's like, I think we'll just kind of chill on, you know, exposing her now. And so that's kind of what we've decided to do. Listen, it could change at any point. and you know obviously we reserved the right to do that but people are so weird we had posted a picture a few days ago and it was the back my daughter has this big pink chair that she sits in and she's just looking out the window and if i don't show anything for my personal life people beat me up and go why aren't you showing your personal life i talk about it a lot my own and then if i do and we don't show our baby's face uh they're like why do you just show the back of her head you

just tease it so there's really no way to satisfy everybody ever and it's just weird that people feel so territorial about seeing a baby's face. But if I just had a baby out of my butt and it was just my baby, I think I probably would have been like, here's the baby, here's everything about it. And I think that would have been probably not the best decision. I feel like when our kids were young, like young, young, like baby age, we talked about all the dumb things of being a dad that we just didn't understand and didn't know what to do. And, you know, we just, I don't know if we played it up. We're really that dumb. Like it wasn't like us playing it up.

So I think we did talk about them a lot. One of the weirdest things I ever done in my life is I think it was like 2008. So my daughter was maybe going on to 2007 going into 2008. I live streamed my life for an entire year. And back then that wasn't like a normal thing. Like I walked around with a backpack with a laptop in it and a wireless card. And I had a pirate's hat and an old school like giant webcam mounted on top the Pirates hat. and I would show our life 24 hours a day

unless it was something really personal and then I would just pop the sound out and turn the camera away. So those younger years, my daughter was on camera a lot, but I think it's all your choice too. The internet's such a weirder place now than it was then. Yeah, I agree.

Especially with AI and anything they can do. within any but you were the original i show speed without the speed yes how did that work out when you're streaming what did you what like what happened positively from all of that positive i'm not sure anything like looking back on it i'm not sure there's no big uh take away from it like it was a great ordeal i had some uh i mean i made some good friends out of it people that would jump in the chat and we were still, we were in years five or six here then. No, it was probably less than that year four. So like I think it helped bond us to listeners a little more. But like I don't, there's no like, oh, I learned this perspective of life through live streaming for a year. And I,

and it wasn't like now where you can make a ton of money off it or anything. I was just doing it for fun basically. We got a friend who, have you ever heard of I Justine? No. She's like a tech reviewer YouTube. She's been on YouTube forever for a million years. But she started doing it kind of. And then I'm just like, that looks fun.

Maybe I should try to do that. So I went for it and went for it for a year. And then I'm just like, all right, this is the last day. See everybody later. See you on the radio. You know, there's no perspective. A couple creepy people came along throughout those, throughout that year, but for the most part, it was just kind of a fun thing.

And there was a chat room that people could talk in. I think a lot of people made lifetime friends. But it wasn't like the internet is now. So it's a very different, you know, world. Do you know my friend I Carly? Do I know I Carly? Yeah, my friend I Carly. I know I Carly.

I do not know I Carly, though. Oh, yeah, she does a show. Shows her life. Pretty cool. son, Nick. Who is that? Miranda Kosgrove? Is that who that was? Icarly. Yeah, yeah. I think Nickelodeon jacked Justine's name and like this and all that stuff for that show, believe it or not.

Let's do, I got a few specific questions. I don't know if they hit you up and said, if you have any questions, we'll go back and forth. But so this is just like super inside stuff. So my first question is going to be what I get asked a lot. What time do you wake up and also how much of the show is live? What are your hours? 4 a.m. right around there I get up. Are you a morning shower guy? Oh, no, no. I'm a morning. Oh, my God. I got to do as much as I possibly can the minute my eyes wake up.

No, no, I don't, no, I'm anxious guy. I got a shower. Her life doesn't move right. And then I got to get a coffee before I hit the station or things are really sidetracked. But yeah, then we go in and, you know, it's only me and Mike. We don't have any producers, any staff. No way.

It's been like that for the 20-something-odd years we've been on here, yeah. Well, what about phone calls then? Who's doing that? If we're talking, they're ringing, and then hopefully they ring through. So nobody, you don't have anybody to make sure that weirdos aren't getting on

just screaming the F word? We're not taking the live phones, never. Got it. Listen, that makes a ton of sense. If you don't have a two, like the only time, well, we do, but we have two delays because we just get people to call and want to just yell the F word. We never, yeah, no. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so do you guys go live right at five or six or? We go six. We're about, about 550. And you don't record any of your first part of your show? We'll kick off. There's some of it that's recorded. Like, we'll record, but it's live, it's live in the moment. So it's, it's, it's live in the moment. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's live in the moment. So it's not like we just try to get ahead in case there's anything that we need to get done for the day. So if there's commercials or stuff we have to record for promos or whatever else comes along. We also edit all of our best of bits.

So any production that goes into the show, any imaging that goes into the show, anything that's on our social medias, we do have a kid now that is the producer for the rock show in our building. that helps edit some of our video clips because it's a whole thing. But like we had a producer spot open for a media producer. And it got pulled in the last round of yanks here. So it never got filled. It existed for a second open, but the job never got filled. Yeah, it's happened twice to us now in the past four years where we've opened a job

taking resumes. Like this past time, I think we had over 200 resumes of people that wanted in. And up into that point, it's just been me and Mike and a guy, a guy who's a listener of the show who works for one of the local TV stations here, he would help us edit videos. His name's Steve, awesome dude. We were hoping that he would be lined up for that job, like that we could move him over and work with us.

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Shout out to you guys are doing all that with just you too. That is wild. It's our own stupidity, though, because, I mean, we started, you know, this 20-something years ago and we showed everybody that we can do it all ourselves. And we used to, I mean, back when, like, the blog era of radio was a huge thing, and everybody was tracking how many blog hits he got and you were compared to everybody across the country, we tried to just run it down people's throats and try to be. number one every month. So we proved that that we could do that and then like we transitioned

to podcast and we could do that on our own and then social media came along real heavy and we could prove we can do that on our own. So it's it's more of us just kind of digging in and working 24 hours a day as opposed to working smarter and asking for help. And even when we asked for help, it wasn't there because we already proved that we could dig in and do it. I mean, that's why we never got promotional money because I was able to prove we didn't need it. So when I would ask for it, they would go, why do we want to give any promotional money? You don't need it. You've shown you don't need it. It's a double-edged sword because you want to be able to do it yourself and prove that you have tremendous value. But at the same time, if you ever ask for anything, it gets met with,

no, you've done it yourself the whole time. Why should we put this money here whenever you've shown us that you can do it? So if you need it, then go harder. Yeah, that's a weird place to put yourself. But yeah, you guys doing it too man. I mean, that is significant at such a high level. I mean, I got a question for you if that's all right. Yeah, ask away. I guess, you know, every show has to come to an end sometime. But you're such a your name, would your name continue on the show, do you think?

Like if you were to step, if you were to step away, does your name come with you? Or does the company own that name? And then, because there's been other situations, obviously, where shows have continued under a certain. name with different characters and have you ever had to have you ever thought of that before the show would not have my if i'm not on it one i wouldn't want it to have to keep my name if it's a selfish thing unless i'm getting residuals i mean do they want to run the show and keep my name and pay me while i'm not there sure but no in no way would the show have my name if i'm not on it because i plan to be doing other things and i own my name so right that's the same thing and if not you can do with

the ultimate warrior did in wrestling because he didn't own the ultimate warrior and And what he wanted to do was be able to be the ultimate warrior in WCW. And so he changed his legal name to Ultimate Warrior because they can't keep you from being ultimate warrior if that's your real name. That's true. That's true. I've often thought about if I do end up like running for, you know, for election or in politics at all, changing my middle name to Bones legitimately.

So on the ballot, it will say Bobby Bones Estle, which is my real last name. Because then people, there won't have to be that association of, wait, I got to remind them. my new name. If I put in my real middle name, it's bones. People will know who that is. So, yeah, no, if I'm out, the name's out. You know, I'm done. We're done with this thing. I didn't know if another person from your cast would just step into your desk position and if they did. The show would roll. It definitely wouldn't be my name. You know, if, you know, I think if anybody was to do it on my show. But again, I don't even know. I don't know what the company would do. but I did get told by our CEO probably five or six years or so ago because we were talking about

and at the time I think it was hyper focused on getting markets now I'm just hyper focused on growing digitally like high like that's the thing let me grow the podcast as big as I freaking can you put us in places that's great but I want to grow everything digitally and so he said you know we can't put you in every city because if you die that'll be too hard to bounce back from And I was like, yeah, it's pretty smart. You're like, yeah, it kind of makes sense. Yeah. Do you want to run for political office?

Is that a thing? I want to less and less as it happens. I just know where I come from, there's not a lot of people that represent those people that come from where I came from and grew up, how I grew up, without a lot of resources. You know, most people that get into politics get into it because their family's in politics or they have some money already. They're able to run. They're able to run for office because they can afford to.

So then you get a bunch of rich people or a bunch of nepotism or, but not people who actually come from it. And like, I come from it. And so, but I've been able to come from it and do really well. I understand both sides. I understand how rich people are able to like loophole like crazy. So it's all this weird stuff that I feel like I've been able to learn. And, you know, I've studied a lot as far as just the basic fundamental, like how to make a law. I feel like I'm on, you know, blues clues.

I had to do all that. And I've spent a lot of years doing it. I almost ran for governor a few years ago. We bought a house in Arkansas at the time in central Arkansas. And I lived there plenty because you have to be there seven years in a row to run for office at any point in your life. And I lived there the first 22 years in my life. And I'm hardcore from Arkansas in every way.

But so I thought about running for governor because one of these big headhunting firms had come to me and said, we want you to run. And so I said, okay. and it was basically just being on the phone asking for money all the time more than actually having big ideas to fix things. So it turned me off a bit, but I still think maybe one day. But we still have a house in Arkansas. We live in Fayetteville now as well.

But yeah, like I love my state. I'd love to help. Like I understand what it's like to have food insecurity and not good education. And so those are the things I want to help, but those aren't the things to get the clicks. So that's it. That's the elevator speech on. Do you do your show, multiple places? Like, do you have a studio in Arkansas as well?

Like, do you travel in between? So now, no, but I can go. I guess not. I can go into any studio, but also it's, the technology is so good now. I can flip open a laptop and put a mic and zoom it. And it's really close if we have to do it that way. But we'll travel with a kit sometimes. And sometimes we'll just travel.

with a, you know, a few of us with a podcast rig or like I'm going to LA to fill in for Rich Eisen for a few days for his sports show and I'll just work from his studio because anywhere where the connection works. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here's my second question for you. You had other cities come and say, hey, do you guys want to move shows and move cities and you guys chose not to? Is that something that you both? Did one of you want to do it and one didn't? Like how did that conversation go? No, we're pretty, we're pretty in sync with everything, man. Like, I got to be honest with you.

If we're being completely honest with me and Mike, like, closest thing I have to a brother, he has a brother, but he's the closest thing. I'm an only child. He's the closest thing I have to a brother. Like, I, if he really wanted to make that move, I would jump in with him and we would just go balls out in that direction. So, I mean, we talked it over. It was never the right situation.

or the right time or we felt like we had the right backing and then Pittsburgh's just been so good to us too, which just makes the decision so much easier. Did you have a show growing up you listened to that you look back and like that was your show when you were a kid and young adult? No. Really? I'm not like a radio nerd, dude. Like I went to like I said, I went to a broadcasting school, but like the broadcasting school taught

radio and TV. And in my head, I'm just like, man, it'd be cool to be like a cameraman at like ESPN or something. You know, like it was something along those lines. Like it wasn't like, oh, I've been chasing this radio dream my whole life. Like when I did, like I said, I did one semester community college undecided. We came from a very middle class. Like my dad worked doubles to keep us in that middle class.

You know, like it was Detroit right outside. a suburb. It wasn't like run down or anything, but we would definitely weren't wealthy by any means. So I don't think I could see past the fence to see that there was this whole career or it was even possible for me to ever do this. I think that's why when I finally got into a radio station in Detroit, I, we didn't leave. Like we were there from 8 a.m. with promotions to through the night show to helping him record production. to three in the morning to back there at 8 a.m. to do promotions and working concerts in between and helping out talking to everybody and seeing what everybody does. Like, I think we both

got the opportunity to do this and we're just like this, holy bleep, this is going to be something we can do and they'll pay us eventually. Like, let's dive in and run with it. But now, I mean, none of the markets that have approached just over the years, and there have, like I said, there have been some, just nothing felt like the right situation or enough to pull us away from Pittsburgh just because it's been so good to us. We're going to wrap this up pretty soon. Do you have any other questions for me? I don't really know. You know, I just wanted to talk with you because I like to talk with folks that, like, I admire their work. And I remember you guys doing the night show and I followed.

I act like I didn't know when I was asking questions. I knew a lot of the stuff that you were talking about as far as where you'd been. And, you know, I remember you guys with Tick-Tac back in the day, because me being in Arkansas at the time, being in Little Rock, and you guys were on over there around the same time. And I thought you guys were freaking crazy. Like you guys were, I was never crazy. I was always at times, I was not risk averse,

but I was never insane. And I thought you guys were insane in a beautiful way. So I've always kept up with you guys. and I just can't believe I'm that old because when you say you've been there 20 years, a little bit of that was going, oh my God, that means I'm 100 as well. Yeah, we were, I mean, we went to Philly when we were, it was like Q102 when we were there. It was like TRL was at its peak and like Carson Daly would come hang out and stuff like that. Like those were still in those years.

So we only stayed there a year and a half. And like I said, 2004, we've been here ever since. Who did the morning show then? Was it Chio? Chio, yeah. There's a funny story about. about you. I'm ready. The, uh, the Philadelphia Inquirer came in to do a 24 hours at the radio station and like this is before web was really a thing. I mean, it was, but it wasn't like,

it is now. So you're making the, the Philadelphia daily, whatever it was, Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia Weekly, one of those, but you're making that and they're doing a day in the life at Q102 and it was supposed to be like really heavy highlighting the morning show. And the guy stayed around it all day writing his little notes of everything and then he got to us and i i forget what we did that day but um we completely like blew the guy away like we were doing dumb stuff we had people running in their underwear doing like an undy 500 i think it was if i remember right and they go to shoot the cover of the the philadelphia weekly magazine and it was supposed to be cheo in the morning show and his characters on the cover and the main page and they wanted the three

of us front and center. And then there were three little boxes on the top that was Chio and his crew. So that went over pretty bad. I can only imagine how dramatic that was in the building. But we were just flying. It was hectic. Like there was no worry about anything in the world. And I think at that point, like me and Mike, a lot of the times were too young and dumb to

know how reckless it really was and like how close we were to the edge of just it being all gone but at the same time i feel like we thought we could just bounce to a different market and you know it was a completely different way out weight radio operated back then yeah i think me being naive helped a ton because had i known and like you said how close i actually was to the sun at times I probably wouldn't have flown so close to the sun, but me doing that actually created a lot of the success and a lot of the foundation. Even when we came here, do you got to hop off?

I don't want to keep you for any longer. Even when we came here, like we were still trying to push the limit, right? So we were doing the hump day Wednesday bit, and I dropped my pants inside of a major retail box store. And like by 3 o'clock, that major retail box store had our whole company on the line willing to pull like all their national advertising because of something stupid that I did in in a little you know store in the middle of Pennsylvania um so I think that was a reality check for us that was one of them that was one of them where they set us down jean romano god bless him

um he was very he gave us a long long runway to take off like we were off and flying but he let us he gave us a long leash um and then there was another time where I had a live chains on in our offices trying to chainsaw through our desk. And I've never operated a chainsaw before. And it was a big, full-on, like, lumberjack chainsaw that a listener dropped off for us to use. And I'm hammering at this desk. And Gene comes running in from behind. We're live on the air.

And he's just screaming, shut it off, shut it off. That was another bad day. So those first couple months of us trying to figure out what the hell we're going to do in mornings. And I don't think all that stuff converted to our morning radio show. Like, I don't think it didn't, it wasn't, we took our night show and tried to jam it in the morning show. And some of it worked, some of it didn't. We definitely shocked the system, but then you had to build the community around it where people actually cared about you and cared about things that you're doing. And I think that took years.

You know, it wasn't, there was an instant overnight success here, but at the same time, we were coming from nothing. It is zero less than a one share. So we looked like heroes to start out with. But for us to build the community that we have now, or. just the people that, you know, that are in our building that really back our show. And we got some pretty good people that still work with us that are still around through all this that have been around for years that we've worked with. So to go back to your point of leaving, I don't, you know, it would take a lot.

It would take a lot. There was a point. Not good. No, I want to hear the point. I don't even remember what I was going to say. Or did you second guess saying it? Because I do that a lot. I did second guess.

It was something about our last contract negotiation. I'll respect it. You know what? I'll respect that for what it is. Hey, I really appreciate the time. And you guys continue to kill it up there. And man, I can't believe that you got a two-man operation of your own doing. Like you've trapped yourself into this by showing just how capable you are.

So, yeah, continued success, good luck. And hopefully one day I get to meet you in person. Tell Mike you say hello. I will. Anytime you want to come out, come see us. Thanks, Bob. See you later, man. I appreciate the time.

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