The Bobby Bones Show - Lots to Say: Mahomes Return and USMNT's Shaq Moore

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel look at Patrick Mahomes being back at practice for the Chiefs.  What is it that has athletes returning from injuries so fast?  Matt talks about the different severity of leg injuries.   USMNT's Shaq Moore talks about his career path in soccer and how he reached the professional level.  Shaq explains the passion from fans overseas while playing in Spain.  Bobby asks about playing in the Gold Cup and the US/Mexico rivalry.  How did Shaq get chosen to play for the previous World Cup team? Shaq explains how he believes the US can get better at soccer.  We explore the stars on this US World Cup team and the leaders on the squad.   Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel is part of the NFL Podcast Network See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and IHart podcast. We got lots to say. We got lots. Here's Bobby. What's happening, everybody? I just saw a preview for a movie called Primetime.

I haven't seen it yet. Okay. I just saw. I had to chat GPT to see if this was a real movie or like a fake AI movie. Right. It's real. Now I'm going to give you some hands. as to what it's about.

If I just say prime time, where does your mind go? Deion Sanders. Me too. It is not a sports movie. It is about a show that used to happen on prime time. Go where your mind takes you. Show that used to happen like a sitcom or no? Wherever your mind takes you.

60 minutes. Okay, 60 minutes. Incorrect, but we're dancing now. It's a show that used to happen in prime time that happened once a week that was pretty much a cultural phenomenon. Cultural phenomenon once a week No I've got nothing for you Any guys anybody

Any guesses Cultural phenomenon Once a week cultural phenomenon American gladiators Okay Oh in living color Not a comedy The host of this show

Got wildly famous From this show And I would even say it was a dangerous show to do Fear Factor No but we're Oh pumped No we're we're We're not dancing.

He was already famous, right? We've slowed down. We're not dancing anymore. We were kind of dancing at 60 minutes a little bit. So it's got to be some kind of news or, you know, something to that effect. It was a show where the people would not know they were being recorded until the end. Oh, oh, Scott Hanson. That's exactly it.

So there's a movie called Primetime. Robert Pattinson is playing Scott Hanson. And it's about that show. The cultural... That's exactly what it is. I'm thinking NFL Red Zone, guys. Oh, no, you're the... Scott Hanson.

No, that was... Chris Hansen. Chris Hanson. Chris Hanson, yes, yes. I'm glad you said that. You would have been really good on that show. Yeah, okay. It's Chris Hanson to catch a predator.

Robert Pattinson is playing him, and it's all about that time in the 2000s, the impact of that show. And again, the fact that Twilight would play... I just thought it was fake. Right. I mean, that show has run its course, obviously. a long time ago, but I haven't thought about that in a long time.

I thought it was wild that was going to be a movie, and I'm not sure if it is more a snapshot of that time in general, but the fact that, again, Twilight, Batman, Robert Pattinson is playing Chris Hansen. It's pretty big deal. Now I'm getting my Hansen's mixed up. Chris is Catch a Predator. Scott is NFL Red Zone. Correct.

Correct. And then the Hanson brothers are... Umbop. Yes. I wonder if Scott Hansen ever gets called Chris Hansen. Ooh. And he's like, not me. I'm not Catcher Predator guy.

You'd be really good at that too. Have you seen Project Helmirae yet? No. Oh, you and your family will love it. Really? It's a movie your whole family can watch. And you'll all love it. I love families that my whole movie can watch.

Because if you... Hold on. Hold on. Eight-year-old? No, you said families that your whole movie can watch. Yeah, whatever. You know I. Movies that my whole family can watch. Because right now we're at the stage where we have so many different age groups

that somebody wants to watch this and somebody wants to watch that. And this is too kid appropriate for the older kids. And this is too adult appropriate for the older kids. younger kids. So ones that we can all watch. Everybody will love it. Project Hill Mary. It's a book. Book's great. The movie does a wonderful job. It has Ryan Gosling in it. And I think if I were nine, I would like it. And I loved it at my age now. It's fantastic. That's a good one. You guys go. And it's out now. You have to buy it.

It's so new to streaming. I guess maybe I'll buy it. I'll splurge. You got a little extra. Yeah. I mean, it's better than going to the movie and movies and spending like $150 for seven tickets. You know, when you have a family the size of, you have to drive in a sprinter van, that's an expensive movie night. Yes. Every night we go out to eat, it's an expensive movie night. Or dinner night or event night. Or grocery bill.

I took the family to Bruno Mars. Brutal. Was that at the stadium? That was at Nissan. When was that? That was two weeks ago? Was it good? It was unbelievable.

Romance sort. In the stadium. He's one of my favorite artists of all time. Great entertainer. He was up there, an entire band behind him. He killed all of his top hits, but this new romance tour, he just, he's got something about him, dude. Tell me more about the show. The show itself.

I didn't know he was such an incredible musician in terms of he plays the guitar, he plays the piano, he dances. I mean, it's everything that you want when you go to a concert and you want to be entertained. He crushed it, checked every box. People were standing up the entire time singing, dancing, raging. It was fantastic. stadium. It's hard to keep everybody caring in a stadium because

it's so large, but you felt like everybody was dialed in? Diled in. Everybody's singing every word to every song. That's cool. I mean, you had sections like look like they were in sequence dancing with him. It was awesome. Did you guys go to that? No, I wish. It was like on a Wednesday night. Yeah, it was... I wanted to go

so bad. That's how you know you're a massive artist. You can do a show on a Wednesday night in a stadium. And sold it out. Nissan was sold out. Sold out. I mean, And the field was sold out. It was incredible. That's super cool. Good for him.

I don't know him. I've met him. But good for any artist that can sell that out. There are very few stadium acts now. There are some that try and it doesn't quite work out. But to be a stadium act, and on a Wednesday, ooh. On a Wednesday and it was cold.

It was raining. And he was like, everybody had ponchos on. Still, everybody's like, no, we're going. Let's do it. What do you think about Patrick Mahomes being in practice already? It's wild. I mean, I know that there's been medical advancements in the recovery timeline for all these guys. And it's wild how quickly they can come back from an injury like an ACL.

But it was so late in the season as well. So I'm sure that he's very moderate on what they're allowing him to do in different team periods. At the same time, it's remarkable that he's already out there. I mean, it's pretty crazy. There's the story of the first four-minute mile, and it took 100 years to run a four-minute mile. And people kept saying it can never be done. Then a guy ran it. and then the second guy was able to actually beat a four-minute mile like two weeks later.

Like, oh, it can actually be done. Okay, then let's pursue that. I understand the advances medically. I also wonder if you're seeing some of these guys and women heal up faster, if it shows people, oh, if I work harder, I actually can heal up faster as well. If I do everything right, I do all of the rehab, the surgery went well, that if I push it at a level, it can heal faster because I've seen other people.

I just think of Adrian Peterson doing it. And then how since then, not everybody heals at that same rate because that was wild, how fast he was back on the field. He rushed for 2,000 yards at you. But you're seeing people bounce back much faster from ACLs, from MCLs, from even Achilles.

Like to see Jason Tatum come back, and now we're talking NBA to come back. He's supposed to be out the whole year. I wonder if people healing faster and science together is showing people they can heal even faster. And I wonder if that's what the deal is with moms. Right.

I'm sure it's a confidence thing for every athlete now that have seen people before them go and go through that process and continue to make strides and hit their landmarks of when they need to be doing this and when they need to be doing that. And that continues to push the envelope and how they train and how they go through the process of recovery because I know that they're able to, they understand that the knee is fixed, but now it's about getting all those small muscles and pushing that more and more and more. And even when Tom was going through it, he had a setback because he had an infection in his knee. They had to go back in and do some stuff as well.

But just watching that recovery process, he understood, look, if I push myself hard now, I'm not going to injure it, re-injure it any worse, but I have to get myself pushed through the pain early on, got to break down the scar tissue, got to do all those things. And these athletes are so regimented in their mindset anyway and probably so motivated to get back out on the field that it probably goes hand in hand with what you're saying, the medical part, the mental part. If you see somebody do it at a rate that you didn't think really could be done that fast and then science is getting better,

like those combined, I think is allowing all these athletes to come back a little earlier, still healthy. You've got to be healthy to come back, but to actually have the confidence to come back. Right, and different methods of training too and how they go through that process of recovery has changed dramatically from a, you need to wait at least two months before you start really,

getting into exercise. Within probably two weeks or so, they're starting to do exercises. They're starting to get the range of motion back. They're starting to do all those. So that's what I'm talking about when we're talking about the advancement in terms of how you approach injury and recovery from it. And Jason Hatham should not have been back, meaning based on the historical data of a ruptured Achilles at the level that his was hurt, he shouldn't have come back this

season. But because people are coming back faster and because he felt like he could train even harder, he was able to come back. Now, he ended up not playing game seven. Which was the downfall to the Celtics. Which, sure. There's other things other than that. Yes, yes. Which was the downhaul. Oh, shoot, we don't have Tatum. He looked amazing, too. He did look so good during that season. And also, you think about it, basketball more than anything with an Achilles, that is going to challenge every fiber of that joint or ligament because you're talking about something that every

time you plant and change directions and jump, you're challenging the integrity of what that is supposed to be able to do. Is the Achilles the worst thing you could tear on your leg? I feel like it is, but I could be convinced otherwise I have limited knowledge on all the things that tear. A, C,L, MCL, I get it. If they're all torn

together, difficult. But the Achilles is probably like the one ligament, If you had to go one power rankings, you don't want a tear. What are you seeing over there? Yeah, the first thing that pops up is a gray three ACL, which is like the ACL, totally ripped and a half. Teletendin, all, everything around your reading.

Okay, well, that's more than one. I should have said that. We should have started to one. Chop off your leg. Okay, you lost half of your leg, do you want us to put it back on? What else? I'm sorry to interrupt you. Okay, that's number one.

What else do you see? Complete knee ligament tear, and then Achilles is number two. And then quad. Oh, godly. quad would be bad, like rip it and off the bone, having to reattach that. There is a video that you can find on any of the social medias where Vince McMahon, who was the owner and the chairman of the WWE for a while. He comes and he slides in the ring and he tears both his quads. Tears both of them? Yeah, because he slides face first. He's like,

hurry jump on top of me now. And he keeps going. He keeps going. Because he wrestled for a while too. Right. But he tore both of his quads going into the ring. That seems. so painful like life is miserable for the next three to six just miserable and then you have to build back the quads god dang that's terrible all of us are like grabbing our legs going

I know I'm just thinking about that right now just going oh all right coming in the second we have Shaq Moore he is a World Cup veteran pro plays for FC Dallas now now he does yes but he also played here for a bit yeah Nashville yeah I didn't think in our building I literally meant like the city

that we're putting in. Yeah. So we'll talk World Cup. I'm very limited in my soccer knowledge. I'm very limited as well. I think as long as we're up front about that. Yeah. We're good? Yeah, we're just going to have to, we're going to have to just say, hey, look. We don't know a lot. We're going to ask some real dumb questions. Shack Moore coming up in just a second. Pride month Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space, to celebrate your existence. IHartRadio is proud to be an official sponsor of Pride Toronto Festival and we won't stop. Celebrate pride. Turn up the love and listen to IHeart Pride Canada.

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We're just getting trouble for, like, banging on stuff. Shack Moore is here. Shack, thanks for coming in, man. Yeah, thank you guys for having me, man. Pleasure to be here. Appreciate that. So we want to start by saying, we don't know a lot about soccer. So we're going to ask you some questions where you're like, really?

Like, these will be dumb guy questions. Talking to a kindergarten, right about soccer? Yes, that's exactly. Where'd you grow up? Fort Lauderdale, Atlanta, the area. So, yeah, to self. When did you start playing soccer? Probably like around 3-4.

My dad played. He's from Trinidad to Big so that's all they did in the Caribbean and naturally I just started started playing. What level did your dad play? College and he went to England for a little bit but went back to study, you know,

knowing those time that wasn't really pro. It was study, study, study, study. So he came back and then actually went on a scholarship to where did you go? Ferley Dickinson in New Jersey. He was legit. Yeah, he was legit. He did his thing.

So for you as a soccer player in the United States, what was your path leading up to, because you played club, obviously, and went pro at 18. But talk to me about your upbringing and the route that you took to get to where you were. Yeah, so I started off in Fort Lauderdale. Like I said, played for a small club called Laudor Hill Lines. Really developed me as well.

And then moved to Atlanta. Parents got a better job there, more opportunities. So I moved to Atlanta and started playing for a local team as well called Smyrna Stealth. And really small team, not as big as like the Concord. I mean, you guys probably wouldn't know about these teams. but the Concours, Atlanta, the fire, kind of the bigger teams in the area. So it's kind of like an underdog like my whole life.

So to make it out through there, did the ODP thing and finally got looked, and that's when I ended up going to the residency program, which is where the U-17 team kind of lives together for two years in Bradenton, and that's when my career really took off. So I got more exposure, got to play a few tournaments in Spain,

and then that's where my career finally took off. Got an opportunity to go on trial in Spain and ended up there, and that's where my career started, professional career. At what age were you that dude, though? Where people were like, that's a dude? I would probably say around 15. 15 is when I really started to come into my own.

Like, okay, I'm him. Where you felt advanced compared to the people you were competing against. Oh, for sure. So, I mean, felt advanced probably around 10, 11. Growing up, growing up, I knew I was special. Yeah. But until I got to a bigger stage, we were playing against national competition, that's when I realized, okay, I can do this at a high level.

Did you always play the same position growing up? or did you change different positions throughout? So I was originally a midfieler. So like a center midfieler, defensive midfieler, but I can always kind of do a little bit of everything. So that ended up helping me a lot of my career. So more in the pros started playing a little bit more right back, center back.

I even played right mid, left mid. So playing everywhere has kind of always been my thing. Define what right back means for the common lesson. So in soccer, there's a line of four, right? So you play in different formations. There's 11 guys on the field. So it's broken up into 4-4-2. 433, and this four is usually the line of defense.

So I usually play on the right side of the four. So there's a right back, center back, center back, left back. You guys follow me? I'm with you. Okay. So I usually play anywhere across the back line, usually on the right, right back, but I can play center back and left back and anywhere, basically. What's your dad play?

He played kind of like a number 10 striker, which is a four. There's a guy that score all the goals, way more flashy. flesh and defenders. We stopped him from scoring. He scores a lot of goals. So he did his thing. So you didn't see what he did and pursue that? You just kind of played into what felt most natural to you on the field?

Whatever felt more natural to me. And then as I got older to kind of get on the field, defense was it. So ended up working out how it was supposed to. So as a defender, like in the NFL, right, you could have the wide receiver catch a touchdown or the quarterback throws one. That gets noticed, right?

It's a big play on defense in there. reception sack for a defender in soccer when you're playing your position. Is it almost better that they're not talking about you at the end of the game? Because that means you did your job well. Yeah, you can say that. That's a good point. You know, it's funny because a defender can do everything right for 90 minutes and one minute that we get scored on.

We're the worst player in the world. So it's kind of a balance. You know, you can kind of do everything perfect as well. And then you can score. And now all of a sudden, you're the best defender in the world. So it's definitely a balance. But, yeah, as a defender, you always want to, you know, go. whole line saves, kind of doing anything for the other team not to, not to score.

When you're playing in another country, do you know Spanish? I know Spanish, yeah. Okay, so then you know what the crowd's yelling. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's my question. Like, if I were in Spain doing anything and they're yelling, I don't know what they're yelling.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, in the beginning, I didn't understand it, but once I started learning Spanish, you realize you hear everything, they're good and the bad. Does it feel way aggressive, like the crowd there? Um, I think. Yes. Because, like you said, they're so passionate over there about, about their team, about their,

their city, even like derby, like rival games, it's like a war. So, yeah, they're definitely passionate about it. I went over to Italy and I, for a brief period of time, I bought an Italian basketball team. I ended up selling it. Okay. But I bought a part of an Italian basketball team. And what was crazy was those European fans, even for basketball, had the benches. When they took us in to like, look as if we wanted to be a part owner, they had over the bench those covers.

So the fans couldn't throw. Throw stuff on the front. Yeah, which is why, because I've only ever seen those in soccer. Do you guys need those in soccer? Yes, we need. Especially when you go to some hostile environment, even at home sometimes. Like when I was playing in Tenerife, one of the teams I played with, when we had a battle in the games, it was tough.

They wouldn't throw stuff on you, but it's better to have the protection just in case they're upset. So, yeah, they live the game out there. I remember we had a loss, and they'd have a whole week that was just sad around the whole city. So definitely a little different culture in here than Europe. How about player-wise? Is there a lot of talking that takes place on the field between players?

There's a little bit, yeah. I've never been one to really, you know, talk shit. But, I mean, if someone talks about me, I like, you know, I might, you know, say a word, a thing or two, but I'm more on the field, right? So I might tackle you a little bit harder or I might give you a little extra extra bump, but not really a shit-talker. What about some of these guys that speak completely different languages? that you don't understand. Do you even, you're like, can somebody translate this for me? That's funny.

You know what? Not really, but you can kind of tell from their body language or the force that they talk with, you can kind of see, okay, this is definitely not a good thing that they're saying. So I'm like, you know, I got a tackle for you showing up. Whenever I get that chance, I'm going to line you up. Because you were elite young when you started to get into your high teens and 20s, would you ever have a 14 or 15, I don't sure the age, like a young elite player playing with you too and you're going, wow, this kid

is next level. Oh, yeah. We always had like academy kids kind of training with us, like the next, you know, next one up. Because, you know, sports is always, you know, when can we get rid of this old guy and a new guy kind of coming up. So, especially in Spain, there was a lot of young talent, especially like my around my age. I was around 17, 18 when I went there and it was always 15 year old, 16 year old. They're trying to push to be the next one. So were they good? They were good. Yeah, they were good. Some obviously took a little longer or some were late bloomer. so he would chain with us when he was 15, and then you would be all right. But by the time he turned 17, you realized, wow, a whole different player,

and he's ready for this level. So it kind of varies. What was your influence to go to Spain versus maybe stay in the United States and play here? Was it the level of competition, or was it just the experience in itself? Well, for me, I kind of always wanted to go to Europe in general, whether that be Spain. I really liked England as well. But I always knew that Europe was the highest level that everyone kind of aspired to. In the back of my mind, I was always kind of go where the big fish are and then test my love there.

So that's what I did. Did you find there's a lot tougher there? Yes, not even just on the field, off the field as well. In what way? So Spanish, learning Spanish was very difficult for me. Oh, like the living part of the living part of it. Exactly. So obviously being away from home and the food and the culture, like in Spain, I ate dinner at like 9 o'clock.

I remember my first day here, I lived in like in a residence with a few other the guys. And I was like, 7 o'clock, where's the food at? But the cultural, they only eat at 9. And there's little stuff like that that you kind of have to get used to. But once I kind of got that down pack, it was smooth sailing from there. What about the game itself? Is it different in Europe than you'd say growing up in the United States in terms of schematically how they attack the game or how they play the game?

Yeah, for sure. For me, the best coaches for me has been in Spain, for sure. The way they break down the game has always been very easy for me, especially coming from the U.S., a different kind of structure to training, to thinking, to strategy, like you said. But yeah, and you realize that. When I came back from Spain, I realized I felt like I was a step quicker or thinking or just reading the game or any little thing like that.

So for me, Spain definitely was a definitely eye-opener. A lot to learn. But that learning curve, once I got past that, I feel like my game really took off. You've represented the U.S. FIFA. What's the other cup that you played in? Did you a Gold Cup? I did Gold Cup. I did Cop America.

Did the World Cup. Gold Cup seems crazy. Because like when Mexico and it's like all the close countries, right? I've watched that. This region, yeah. Like Mexico, United States, when you guys play, that feels dangerous. That feels like Steelers Ravens. Very hostile.

Yeah. Like did you ever have to play in Mexico City or where in Mexico would you play? We usually play at Azteca, which is like one of their most famous stadiums. Those games are always always. It's tough. It looks insane in the stadium. It was like 80,000 or 100,000 Mexicans just against you. Like, everything you do, they're booing you or whistling you.

How do they get you ready for that? If you've not experienced it, what do they tell you? Well, just to be ready for a battle, honestly. You know, those games, a lot of times it's not about playing good or bad. It's about just being intense, living it. And usually that'll get through it because with all the antics that, you know, usually Mexican teams kind of have and, you know, they're physical and playing at their stadium and then the ref.

It's a lot to get. You just said they're dirty without saying. You just said they're dirty without saying. They're not the nicest. And then also it's a rivalry between us, right? So it's always a little more, you know, umph and a tackle and a challenge. So I think the most important thing in those games is intensity. Also, the more you play them, the more comfortable you get with them,

the more you know what's required of you as a team and individually. So experience is the greatest teacher. It's hard to kind of replicate it unless you've been in a few. And on these teams, when you have so many talented players, a lot of probably who haven't played together, How do you create that chemistry where you guys come together as a team? Obviously, you represent something bigger than yourself, but it's more that camaraderie that you have amongst the team.

That's a good question, especially how we're only together a lot of times for like a week, a week and a half at times, but, you know, I think the most important thing that we do, the coach kind of brought us together really well, right? So a lot of guys are always away in Europe. So when we come home, it's like almost like we're home again, right? And a lot of us played together, you know, growing up as well, whether that's a U-17 camp or U-20 camp. So we're familiar with who we are.

But definitely the camaraderie, the chemistry starts when we're all away. We keep in touch and then we come together. It's like a family ready to compete. With the Gold Cup, Copa, those tournaments there, what was the process then? Did you go through the Olympic process? I guess the World Cup is coming out.

Did you go through that process for the American team? So with the American team, you basically play with your club team. So I was in Nashville. I was in Tenerife. I was Spain. Now I'm in Dallas. And the coach kind of checks on you from afar, right? So you're playing and he watches games every weekend and who he thinks is best, who he thinks can fit in this place or that place. And then after he makes his decision camp by camp, right?

So there's a camp in March. Is it a camp in May? Does it camp in June? So just because you make the camp in March doesn't mean you're going to make the camp in May. Depends on how you play. Depends on if you fit well with the guys, depending if you're maybe going through a funk, but your leadership is there kind of, Every player is different, right?

So it kind of depends. And how competitive are the practices? Because I'm guessing you have, from what I read, it was 26 players on the team. There's 11 players. And if you get substituted out, you're not going back in the game. I'm not happy at all. So you're trying to start, obviously. So it's got to be super competitive leading up to the actual games.

Very competitive. But like you said, when it comes to bringing a team together, sometimes you've got to put the team over your kind of individual Eagles because you're not in the day you're representing the country. Right. So it looks bad if you come off and you're soaking. It looks bad if your attitude isn't great for the next guy coming on. So especially with these tournaments where it's knockout stage or three games and you can be out.

You know, so the quicker you can put your ego aside and just play and represent the country and no egos, better the team is going to be. With the World Cup, whenever they were picking players off, did you get the call, come to a camp? Yeah, so I got the call the last camp before the World Cup. We had like a fitness camp because the MLSC gets. was different from the European schedule. So we were brought together training, and then I got the call after that camp in 2022.

And so then you just like try to like be one of the boys? Like so then let the coach see you being one of the boys? No, not really. So my thing was just train, compete, and then kind of get a spot. And then after the camp, you would like say, yo, listen, I'm gonna give you guys a call in three, four days. And then I'll say, if you made it or you didn't make it?

Which is the most nerve-wracking thing, by the way. So yeah, I remember just looking back and going home and he calls me, it's like, yeah, you're in. And then it was a great experience. Yeah, what was that moment like? I mean, because that's got to be a bucket list for any player. For sure, for sure. It was nerve-wrecking because, right, he's either going to tell you made it or you didn't make it.

But you made it. But you made it. But there's always that doubt that the call might not go that way, right? So you kind of nerve-wrecked, kind of nervous, kind of excited at the same time. You don't know how it's going to go. But, you know, when you finally get the call that you're going, It's definitely relief and proud moment. What's your diet like?

Depends. Am I in season or off season? In. In season? Well, I burn off a lot of calories easily. So my cheat days are usually Sundays after the game, so I usually eat anything, burger, Chipotle, whatever. I was also in Spain for a long time.

So I was missing out on Chick-fil-A and Chip-fil-A and Chip-Ole. So Sunday's my cheat day. But during the week, I try to eat healthy, you know, carbs, sometimes, a little meat sometimes. It kind of depends on the day. Day before the game, carb load up, some more pasta, day off, more rice. Kind of depends. I was looking for like a diagram. You didn't give me that.

You just said... No, I kept it more general, right? He's got the pyramids. You have a little protein up here, carbohydrate. I know, right? Did you feel weird? Did you say cutter or guitar? Qatar.

Okay. So did you feel unsafe in Qatar? No, I didn't, actually. I felt good. I mean, we had security just because coming off of COVID, and, you know, that region is a little different and more a little conservative about different things. But I think they hosted a great World Cup. We felt safe.

We felt welcome. And I think it did really a good job. What about the decision to come back to the United States and actually play here? And how have you seen the game evolve from when you left? Yeah, that's a good question. So I was in Spain for like seven, eight years. And towards the last year, I think I was kind of not homesick, but it was like, okay, it might be ready to just think about coming back.

So when the opportunity came for Nashville, it was a no-brainer also. I lost my grandfather. I lost my uncle. So I just kind of, I think it was ready. I was ready to come back. So also it was a World Cup year. And my last year in Tenereef, I was playing sometimes and not playing. So I was like, if I want to go to the World Cup, I got to be playing every week.

I got to be fit. I got to be healthy. And I think Nashville was the best decision at the time. So I ended up working out, came back, you know, killed it. And ended up going to work up. So it worked out. Okay. He's told you a good question three times.

Me, none. I got to get a good. I got to get a question right now. This interview was so far. I've been trying to keep it tight. It's his show, right? No, no, it's our show. It's our show.

It's our show. Yeah, yeah. I got to get a good question. Just keep sounding good question. No, no, no. Okay, let me think if I got a good question here. Okay. How does America get good at soccer?

I think it starts from... Good question. Good question? Good question. Thank you. Good question. Really hard question. I think it starts from the grassroots, right?

You know, from the young age. Can we train them properly? Can we make sure they're having fun? Can we make sure if they have their flair? and their skill that you kind of, you know, learn on the street. We're playing with their friends. So it doesn't come, so it doesn't become so, what's the worst? Strategic.

Sometimes you got to let it be free-flowing until they get to like, I don't know, 10, 11, 12. Then you create the structure for them. But especially growing up, let them play, let them be free, let them play with skill. And then as you get older, then you start to introduce the tactics and building out the back. Probably, I don't know if you guys know about that stuff, building out the back and how to attack, how to defend. But I think to keep it as natural as possible up into a certain. in the age, and then after that, then you start to groom them how you want to do. We don't have that now.

So it depends on where you're at, right? So I remember growing up for me, it was a lot of structure of how to play instead of kind of being free. Like if you look at countries like Spain or Brazil, there's a different type of flare that they play with that you can just see just by looking at it. You know, sometimes in the U.S. is more, how can I make this player this at this aid? Instead of like, let them develop. Because the best players at 8, 9, 10,

is not necessarily going to be the best players at 14, 15, 16. So how can we bridge the gap between letting them kind of develop naturally and then when they get to age to kind of steer them in a direction where it's best for them? Who do you think is the best coach in the United States is right now? In terms of professional level. Professional level. Let me see. You might want to pick the organization your player for.

Except for your coach. Except for your coach. Sorry, Eric Quill. I'm going to give you a shout up, but you're my favorite coach. I can't say you're not. Let me see. I like Eric Quill, man. It's not because he's my coach,

but I think since I've gone to Dallas, he's really giving me a platform to really, you know, express how I play with a little bit more freedom. He gave me a bigger role to be. I'm captain now as well, so. Congrats. Thank you. So, yeah, I'm going to give it to Eric Quill,

not just because he's my coach, but he's a good coach. You run the last World Cup team. Did you think he had a shot to make this World Cup team? No, I didn't make this from the roster, just came out. No, did you think you had a shot? Yeah, I think. Oh, I was in the mix.

I talked to Coach Patrachino a few times, and, you know, it was just a lot of competition. How many players have to get hurt before we get you in? No, I don't wish. Let us know, Bobby knows people. I don't wish that or anyone, man. I'm thankful that I got to go to one, and I wish, you know, the guys who are going, you know, the best of luck I'll be watching, cheering them on. You really root for them?

Oh, yeah, of course. I know a lot of guys on the team. And then I remember there's a lot of guys who during my World Cup, they didn't make the cut. And then this one, they made the cut. So happy for everyone. You know, I'm not really a malicious guy. I don't really, you know, wish bad on everyone. So wishing them the best luck, I'll definitely be watching.

Do you think we can get into the knockout stage? Yeah, I think so. We have a pretty weak group, right? I wouldn't say weak. I think in today's game, there's no weak team. On paper, it might look like we're favorite playing at home. Australia is pretty weak. You never know.

Those bloats could get it going. Yeah, I wouldn't overlook any team. Okay. I wouldn't overlook any team. So starting with the first game, you know, you're attacking. that game you try to win and then you try to get to the second game and the third game, give yourself a chance to get out, but you can't overlook any team, especially like in today's age where a lot of teams are very equal, sound down to the smallest country, to the biggest country.

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Take pride with you anytime, anywhere. Just ask your smart speaker to play IHart Pride Canada. Stream us on your phone or listen now at iHartRadio.ca. All right, I've got to ask you a question about flopping. I mean, you see it constantly, and you know the guy's not hurt, let alone the way he looks like he got hit by a car. You can call an ambulance for him. call on an ambulance. One, have you ever flop?

Number two, do you call people out when you know that they're just, it's just absurd? I'm not a big flopper, man. I'm not a big flopper. Now, if I feel contact and I go down, that's different. But I'm a defender,

so I'm usually one initiating the contact trying to win the ball. But yeah, if a guy, if I feel like he goes down kind of easy, I'm definitely going to tell him something because at the end of day, that's more pressure on us. Now we're defending a little bit more

or it's a penalty, and now my team is in, you know, a bad spot. So I definitely have to give him Give them an air full or something. But if it's a perfectly orchestrated flop, like they nailed it. You have to a little bit respect that, right? No, I can't.

No, thank you. It's bad for the game. It's bad for the people watching. It's bad for the guys on TV. You know, watching on TV. I'm just not an advocate. But now I must say there's less because there's VAR. VAR is like a video analyst, review, whatever.

So they can watch it back and see if it was actual contact or if it was a flop. So it has gone down a lot. It has the scariest part for you in a game when somebody gets to that free kick and you guys got to stand there covering your junk. Oh, yeah, that's not fun. And just waiting right in front of the wall. It could just ricochet right off your face. It's like, because you have to cover your, you know, your private areas and then the

ball hits you in your face. So it's like, it's like a lose, lose everywhere. And then if you duck and the ball goes over you and go to your set piece coach, set piece of like, you know, corners, free kicks. Your set piece coach, it's going to be like, yo, how can you let that happen? Take it like a man. So I'm glad I'm not in the wall usually. But when I, when I am, it's definitely nerve-ranking.

All right, here's a question I have. Let's say you're in Spain, because you were in Spain, and someone were to ask you, hey, Shaq, teach me some American slang. What would you teach them? Good question. Thank you. That was a good one. I didn't have to beg for that one.

All right, good, good, good. I was probably start with lit. You know, it's lit, right? So say, you know, you go somewhere and there's a lot of people and it's a good time. You say, it's lit, you know? What else would I say? you can say someone is tight someone is tight means it's like

you know they're acting up they're they're they're doing too much right so they're they're you broke a joke and they're acting a little bit too much I'm like oh it's tight you're acting tight right now it's not that serious it's just a joke what else can I say what else would I say what else would I say

I think that's about it right now that I can think of lit and tight lit and tight yeah that's my name is lit lit it's lit right there's what they say like this is a bunch of new ones now like I'm a little brother They come with me saying all type of new stuff, and they call me, oh, Grandpa, well, you don't understand this?

I'm like, no, we never used to say stuff like that. So it changes by the day. You got any superstitions? I have a few, right? So I'll put my right sock on first, and then my left, and then my right boot on, and then my left. And then before every game, I make a sprint from where I'm at to the box, and then I kind of get ready right there momentally.

And then I take two jumps, bum, bum, ready to go. If I don't do it, I feel like I'm not going to play well that. Do you ever get to do penalty kicks? Yeah, I've done a few. I've done a few. Are you good at it? I mean, I've missed a few too, but I think my percentage is more positive than negative. How did you get to do them?

So it was a penalty shootout? They have like five guys? Like five guys, yeah, yeah. You're the fifth guy? Depends how I'm feeling. Sometimes I feel more confident by the first second I can go. Sometimes I'm like, you know what? if it gets to six, I'll go.

What do you look for in the goalie? Or do you not look at the goalie when you're doing that? Well, long time ago, you can just pick her area and then you go there, and no matter what, you go there, and more times than not, you'll be right. Nowadays, you've got to look at the keeper a little bit because they're just too good. And if you just say, I'm going right there, keeper's going to make a save. So now I like to go a little bit slow, see the keep will go one way or another, look at him right in his eye, and then at that point try to pick a way to go.

You know, when we used to play soccer when I was younger, we would normally put the kid that maybe didn't have the greatest skill set in the goal, thinking, look, it's probably the easiest thing. They can't kick. They can't kick. Maybe they can knock a ball down. But talk about how difficult playing goalie is, especially in the professional league and the skill set it takes. So all the goalies are there is not difficult at all. I'm joking. I'm joking.

It's very difficult. Obviously, they're the last line of defense, right? And it's a very difficult job because, you know, the outfield guys, we can make a mistake. And more or less, there's like a few guys that can save you. The goalie makes a mistake a lot of times it's a goal. So definitely difficult. Also, when they dive, especially when there's, when there's, like, traffic, guys are coming at their head. Then in the air, guys can, you know, undercut them.

So I give a lot of credit to goalies. They say they have to be, they have to be crazy to be a goalie. So I think it's true. But we love our goalies. We need them. Who are the stars on this World Cup American team? Like, who should we be watching for? Well, you always got Christian Pulisic, you know, he does this day.

I think Tyler Adams is another, another one engine. He plays midfield kind of great leader, drives the team, both on and on and off the field. He was always a great guy. Who else? You got the keeper, Matt, Matt, Matt's doing well. Matt came along. Well, Matt Freeze. There's both Matt Turner and Matt and Matt Freeze.

So they're both doing well. There's a team full of leaders, but I think those three are the guys that are going to push the team to the highest that we need to. Do you think we're going to win? When what? The World Cup, bro. Yeah, why not? Why couldn't it be this year?

I'll say, well, anything can happen, right? Especially on home soil, but I will say it starts with the group stage, man. I think you can't overlook that part. We can't think that we're just automatically going to get out. We're going to automatically get to the round of 16, automatically get to the quarterfinals. I think you got to take a game by game, you know, especially, like I said, today's game. Anybody can be anybody. take a game by the game, get out the group, and then after that, anything can happen.

How much do you run? Have you ever measured what you're actually running during a match? Yeah, so it's usually like 10, 11 kilometers. Ah, I call. That's how, yeah, I don't know more than miles. I don't know how many miles is that? Yeah, 11 kilometers is what? Eight.

Eight miles? No, no. We're looking for miles. Miles, miles. No, no, I need to know miles. What? 11 by your kilometers, how many miles is that? They ran about seven miles match.

That sounds about right, yeah. Do you, when you train running, like, what's a good run for you then? Do you ever just run or do you not need to run because you're always... In offseason, I'll probably just run. It's funny because you can just run an offseason and then when you play a game with the ball and it's starting to stop, it's spring, it's cut. You'd be like, yeah, I did all this running in off season. Why am I still tired during the game?

So it's crazy. The only fitness, soccer fitness you can get is from the match. And it's 90 minutes, right? It's 90 minutes. And then tell me why they continue to put time on at the end. It drives me nuts. Because of the guys that flop. The guys that flop, the guys that roll around and we have to call the ambulance for them

when they're really not really that hurt. That's injury time. So that's where they add it. Oh, so they just add it back on. Instead of stopping it, because if you stop it, the game's going to be like three hours. Do you then, when, let's say that's happening, in your head, are you trying to keep up with what the extra time is going to be? Or do they tell you?

Really. So they tell us. Oh, they do. They'll say once to 45 minute markets, they say extra time, five minutes. Got it. So you're not just guessing and waiting for the Warren. You're not guessing. He has a real dumb guy question to ask.

No, no, no, no. Hey, listen, that's what we're here for the kind of, you know, enlightened people. You play against Messi? I play against Messi. I played against him in Spain and I played against him. Okay. Tell me something about Messi. Messy's from a different planet, man.

Like really? Like, you watch him and it's divvy. Yeah, it's not just, you know, high piece. For me, the best player, best player ever. What about him? His left foot is, like, it feels like he has a, It has a ball on his string. Like, wherever he goes is always there.

You think you can get it. You can't. And then he's just clinical. Like, if you make a mistake, he's always there to punish you. You know, like, I remember playing it in Spain, man. I slipped one time back of the net. Like, other guys, okay, you might have a chance. They might miss it.

Like, he doesn't forgive. Like, if you make a mistake, his goal. And that's why he's one of the best athletes ever. You think he's the best soccer player ever? Yeah, I think so. Who did you put on your Mount Rushmore of soccer players? Messy obviously Menci Ronaldo, obviously, you're there

I love Ronaldino that was my favorite player growing up you got no Ronaldinho no Brazilian legend I was just about to say Brazilian legend did you know right you didn't know who that was

yeah but I wasn't confident enough to be like Brazilian legend he's probably guy wild like started watching soccer because he's the first guy I see like you know

when you play FIFA and you do all these tricks on the on the TV he's the first guy that I've seen do those tricks in the game like he was unbelievable. So for me,

Messi Rondino, Ronaldo, of course. And then you got to put the ODs in there, Pelle, Maradonna. You got to respect them as well. Can you do that thing where they kicked the ball in the air? You do the back leg kick into the goal? The bicycle. Whatever that is. I can do it. I've never done any game, but yeah, I can. Sometimes I used to be messing around and practice and they'd cross and I would finish something. Let's go outside and see if you can do it.

In the gravel driveway? It's okay. I'll catch him. Have you ever had like a moment because you don't get to score normally, right? I'll score every now and again, but my job is so cool. Do you like rip your shirt off? You got to move? No, I keep it kind of simple. I kind of just jump up and just say, you know, thank you.

Is there a play? Do you guys have a play where you then, like Mighty Ducks, Flying V? You need to get the reference? Do you know what that is? So what are you to move you, right? Yeah, when they do Flying V. So when you score, you do that, oh, what are you talking about? Well, so is there a thing where it's like, okay, we got to get Shaq,

he's going to be at the V go and they have a play for you to come out of the defense. To score? No, not like that. Because soccer is more improvisation. Yeah, improvisation or yeah, yeah. Improvised. There's not really set plays. They kind of put you in positions

to, once you get there, you can make a decision and whatever comes of it, then you can go. But I've come through the back pose, you know, by surprise, tap in, you know. I've scored a few goals. And because I don't score a lot, my celebration is usually like, yeah,

like, you know, just kind of finally, you know? Can you keep the ball, like in the NFL? If you score, can you, like, I want that ball at the end of the game. the game. Oh, yeah, yeah. You can get the ball? Yeah, yeah, you can get the ball. What if somebody else scores with it later and they say they want the ball? It's first one. There's like three, four balls around the field. No, but I'm the one I just kicked in. That's not a thing.

It's going first, sir. They only bring three balls to the game. We need that back. If you kick it in the crowd, do they have to give it back or do they get to keep it? You should have to get it back, yeah. No way. There's no way if an American fan would give a ball back if they get it in the crowd like on a field or something like that. They have to give the ball back? We're still playing. We still needed to play. You buy more balls. You're right. Now, that's the budget cut that they had to make.

We got you water, but we had to cut some of the balls. We got the balls out, right? You do jersey swap? Yeah, I do jersey spots. Do you have to say something in the game or pregame and like make sure? Well, you can't like an ego. So I'm like, I can't ask for you this right now. I'm about to compete against you.

So after the game, usually I'll be like, yo, much respect, good game, you know, can I get a drift? If it's a guy I like, if it's a guy I know, one of my friends I grew up playing with, something like that. But before the game, I'm like so locked in. Something about me, I could never ask for a guy's jersey until after the game. Even if my homeboy that I grew up with forever, until at least after the game. Will you ask though if you lose or only ask if you win? Probably if I win. Yeah, if I lose, I'm so bad.

If I lose, I'm so mad. Unless it was a good game and they were just a better team, I'd be like arcane. But usually when we lose, I'm so bad, just go right inside. So you're the captain? I'm the captain. So what does that mean within your organization in Dallas? Like you're the guy. Young guys come to you to be like, what up?

Like, what's up? Yeah, so basically, you know, one of the leaders are the team. So a lot of guys would come to me, especially because I played in Spain. I played in the World Cup. They have a lot of questions whether I what to do in this play or how do you take care of your body, stuff like that, how to stay relevant? Because a lot of guys are like rookies, 2021. You know, how do I end up staying here and how do I like last, right?

So a lot of the young guys asked me, it's funny, we had a dinner another day. and there's a screen up and we were like playing highlights. So they showed one of my highlights in Spain playing against Barcelona. And the young guys were like, yo, I didn't know you played against all that. Because I'm not really boasting about it.

I just kind of just get in and get out. So now they respect me and after that day, they started asking me way more questions. I was like, okay. That makes me feel good a little bit. So, yeah, definitely OG status now. Are you a vocal leader?

Or do you lead by example? So this year I've been more vocal. I feel like I've had to be more local. In general, naturally, I'm more kind of lead by example. But I realize when I do talk, people listen, you know, in tough games where you have to be vocal, you have to, you know, whether that's getting somebody's ass one time or whether that's, you know, say, yo, come on, come on, you got to be ready. So I think, not even just this year, last couple of years, I've definitely as I've gotten older, especially, definitely have to be more vocal, you know, not boastful, not like, you know, yelling and screaming all the time. But sometimes when you have to be a little bit more firm, you know, it's just part of the drive. We can be friends after.

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what small country is way better than they should be because they don't have that big of a population but they're dogs? One that comes to mind is probably Panama. Panama, you would think that they're not the best, but when you play against them, like I said, the first thing they come with

is the intensity. Forget the skill and, you know, this and that. The way they play against you, it's so hard because they run, they fight. And sometimes that's hard to kind of match because they play so hard. So right off the ballot would say probably Panama. You wouldn't expect much from them,

but when you play against them, you realize, oh, this is the game. What about from a physicality standpoint, like a team that comes in that you know, hey, I got to get up for this. Because this team, they're going to play physical. They're going to try to beat you up physically. Probably England.

Just because... Really? England, yeah. Their league is the best league in the world, right? Much of Milky White Boys coming in? They drink their tea before. a game bro so the game is so fast for them in england so when you play against them if you're not up for it by 20 minutes you can be gassed right so and then on top of them on top of being like

physically superior they run they and they're technique so imagine physically superior and technique at the same time if you're not if you're not matching it physically to start off tough game do you still enjoy soccer i do like do you find it exciting still now that you're a veteran i do actually do you find new things to learn all the time i mean sometimes Some days are longer than others, especially preseason. It's like, oh, another preseason. But I still wake up every day. I still have this new energy to play every day, especially at this stage of my career,

kind of teaching a lot of young guys, the same thing that I went through to, you know, putting it on them. So every day is definitely definitely, definitely a privilege to still be able to play, especially I have a lot of players that I play with. They don't even have contracts anymore. And they're like my age 29, 29, 30. So every day is definitely, definitely a blessing. What is considered old in soccer?

And soccer? Like who they're saying, hey, you're getting up there. Yeah, probably when you start to hit your early 30s to mid-30s, they start to say, oh, we might have to go another direction or, you know, one-year contracts. But I feel like, you know, I take care of my body well enough. So I did that I would like to play until maybe mid to late 30s. Both of you guys have been traded. Him and the NFL, you got traded from Nashville?

What's that call? Were you happy about that? Weird call? Like, oh, no. It's a, I wouldn't say weird call. It's a call that I wasn't expecting. But, you know, it's part of the game. I will say I'm thankful that they let me know ahead of time, right?

So there's been horror stories where they tell you, you know, the day of or a day before or you're in the locker room and they tell you're getting traded. For me, it was an offseason, so I had time to kind of simulate it and, you know, talk to my partner and say, yeah, listen, we're going here or there. And so I appreciate Nashville and the GM for doing that. And when you walk into a new locker room, do you know a lot of these guys, or you're starting from Square 1? again? I probably knew, probably like three, four guys, just from playing, you know, youth teams or an action team. But yeah, it is still square one because new guys and new coach, new system. So definitely an adjustment period. When you say system, talk to me about schematically,

are you guys running one type of system or do you guys adapt your game plan based on the opponent that you're playing? So usually we'll play one type of system. So like I said, there's a four-four-three, a four-four-two, sorry, and four-three. It kind of depends. And then in that system, then you start to adjust. Right? So sometimes the outside back's a little bit higher, sometimes a little bit lower. Sometimes you're playing a little bit more long balls than Tiki-Taka. So it kind of depends on who you're playing with.

So when we play Red Bull, they're a team that usually press high. Press high, press. They're waiting for you to make a mistake, like close to your box and score. So maybe against Red Bull, we want not play short too much. We might play a little bit longer until the game settles down and they get tired, then you start to play. So those are the little intricacies that come with, you know, each team is different. Is there a play where the goalie just takes off and tries the score?

No. Oh, there's not. No. Oh, that I'd surprise him, like crazy. It's like you're not expecting him. All of a sudden, he takes the ball and goes. That's a long field, bro. That's a long field.

And if he messes up, there's an open nut to score. Yeah, that's the risk. Risk reward. Yeah, but it's like you're down one with 30 seconds left. So what they'll do, they'll come up for a corner kick. So you have an extra guy, and usually the goalies are taller. So they'll come up for the corner or 95th minute, last minute of the game. and there's actually been a few goalies that scored like this year.

And he celebrated obviously taking off his shirt. So in that case, yes. But in terms of dribbling from his goal to the other goal. Or just like surprise. Like he's just running up and you're all the way on the side of the field. And all of a sudden you're like, Hank, the goalie's taking over. One of our teammates would probably take the ball from him before an opponent does. You should get back there.

Yo, give me that boy. You know? No, we don't want the goalie doing that. When you watch NFL football, could you be a place kicker? You know what? I mean, I'm guessing you could kick them. I got to say, that's a good question. You know what I mean?

I'm a good question. That's a good question. I might need some practice, but I think I can be decent at it. I'm not saying I'll be the best, but I think I can hold my own if I got some practice a few reps. I mean, we're literally catching it and putting it where you want me to put it. I feel like it's not as easy as it looks. I don't think it is either. I can't kick.

And I play talking, I feel like it's not as easy as it looks, but I've actually never done it. You've never kicked a football just for fun. We'll do that in the yard too afterwards. Seriously. Yeah, we do that. We'll do the helicopter. Yeah. We'll do the field goal.

Uh-huh. What? What? Do you do yoga or anything like that? I do hot yoga. I just did hot yoga today. Yeah. Like, what is it that we probably wouldn't expect that you as a pro athlete that you do to keep your body in good shape? Well, I go to the gym, well, apart from the team facility.

So in the evenings, sometimes I go to the gym and just do extra stretching, extra sauna, swimming, and then hot yoga. I feel like that's prolonged my career. Not that I'm at the end of my career, but it's made me feel better than I probably would have a couple years ago when I wasn't doing it. And what type of training do you actually do? Do you guys do a lot of weightlifting during the season?

Do you have a regimen that you do? So we do, well, in Dallas, we do one day upper body, one day lower body. So upper body is usually, you know, a regular upper body. Well, not regular. Soccer-specific upper body and soccer-specific lower body. That's usually on a Wednesday. and a Thursday.

That's kind of what we do. We don't do it every day. Somebody asks me like, do you guys do gym every day? I'm like, no, we're a soccer player. So I build is a little bit different than football or NBA. So probably like two times a week. I like, did he point it at me on NBA? Except just saying, NBA.

I saw a Pace's jersey there. So I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't play. Oh, he didn't play. They just gave it to you. Well, I went out and we did a bunch of content there. Oh, okay, that's the first thing. I thought, okay, maybe he likes basketball.

Nah, I tell jokes. He's a bunch of sports. A bunch of celebrities. Celebrity, though. Celebrity games. I played. Yeah, I played in the games. See, but weren't you the MVP?

Remember, tell them the story about when you were the MVP? He's a professional athlete. He doesn't want to hear my story of, okay, here's a day. I don't mind. Yeah, go ahead. He likes this. He likes this one. You're begging.

Every year, the Major League Baseball All-Star game, they have a celebrity softball tournament. Gotcha. And so my season, it was me, Terrell Owens, Des Bryant, like all these NFL guys, the guys from, what's the, a group the dude perfect you know and i mean i got MVP i went uh what four for four yeah it was just

a thing yeah i just a thing i did the thing yeah i did the thing yeah i did it's a sign you yeah you're too good for them and i had a torn ankle at the time too yeah i mean i ain't trying to draw you i don't you know you know i mean i don't want to brag gert gipson yeah it was he just a little and i won dancing with the stars the tv show really i won the whole thing for tongue athlete yeah let's let me just get it all out yep don't i do not know how to dance and i won't i won the show. Wow. What can't you do?

That's the question. I'll play soccer. Or dance or really anything else athletic. Shack, we really appreciate you coming in, man. This has been super fun. Yeah, thank you guys for having. We're in the elementary stages of learning. I feel like I heavily invest in learning more and more about soccer during the World

Cup and the Olympics, right? Because that's when it's presented to us. And the Nashville club is right down the road, which is cool. And they have an awesome stadium. Because I went to a couple of games when they were playing at Nissan Stadium. Did you play for them in Nissan? No, I didn't play for them. It's bad news.

Is it bad news? It's bad news in Nissan stadium because it was too big. Too big and it didn't feel like a good atmosphere to play in. Soccer was cool, but the atmosphere wasn't good because the stadium was way too big.

This stadium, they go hard. Yes. Like you play there, right? Like, they go hard, right? I think it's probably the best stadium in MLS. Is it because it's new? Because it's new and the fans. The fans really make you feel like,

you know, this is a home field advantage. You know, so I remember playing against other team, they would tell me, You know, Nashville. Got to go to Nashville. It's like, it's a tough place to play. What about Dallas? Dallas, so we're doing new stadium renovation,

so we have half capacity right now. But I think once they finish it, I think it'll be one of the premier stadiums too. Is the stadium in Dallas? The stadium's in Friscoe. Friscoe where everybody's moving. Are you living in Fresco? I'm living in Frisco.

Yeah, yeah. I like Friscoe. I did some stuff with the Cowboys there because that's where the training facility is. Yeah, we went down and I did some stuff with Jerry Jones. Yeah, that's it. First goes a cool little town. Really nice. Really nice.

A lot of people are moving there. They're building Universal Studios there. They got Applebee's? Yeah, really? Yeah, they're. Applebee's. They got Chili, saw one of those. Fridays?

Yeah, it's like pretty big. Yeah. We've got to get you guys out there for a game or something. Oh. Let's roll. I'm down. I just ask a lot of questions. I'm like my grandma watching a movie.

That's no problem. She's like, what just how? Who's that? What's that? What's that? Did we just scored? Bobby's out there. Pull the goal.

I know. I got to play. Coach, I got to play for you. That's funny. That's funny. So what do you do? So you're here with us today. Like, when do you go back to Dallas? We got to be back on the 14. And so. To train under 15.

So. To train for. So we have a workout break now and then we go back. Yeah, it's a break, right? It's a break. Yeah, three weeks break. And then we go back and start to train and get ready for the second half of season. Do you take a break or do you try to stay? I try to stay fit a little bit.

So that's why do my yoga, do a little running, do a little gym. Because if I do nothing, I'll come back on the. 15th. Looking like me. Breathing. You look great, man. It wouldn't be back to look like you, but yeah, I wouldn't be in the best shape. Shack, we really appreciate you, man. Thank you so much. Thank you. You had a great time, man. Thank you guys for having.

Absolutely. Good luck, man. That was awesome. Thank you, thank you. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHart Pride Canada, your favorite hits and must-have party bangers, plus personalized and curated playlists. like back in the day pride.

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I really was. About the third time he said, good question. I was feeling the heat. You're nailing it. No, I just think that... You were nailing it. I don't even...

I just really prepared for this. You know, this is what I look forward to week in and week out. You're nailing it. And plus with the guidance of some of the individuals in this room, you know, I'm trying to hone my skill. You're nailing it. No, I wasn't. I would also like to say this.

I'd like to say why he said that it was my show and not our show, because I was thinking about that. Because he did say that. He goes, it's your show and he pointed to me. Yeah, of course. I'm going to tell you why, though. It's not because you were crushing the questions. The lobby's all my face when you walk in. Yes, it is.

And you told them, yeah, I put the studio together because. Well, it was. So the studio is yours, the house in the front, yours, all the collectible items are yours, the bobbleheads are when you cut walking. If you want to invest in the building, you can't. You didn't give me that opportunity. It wasn't about this relationship on the show because obviously you were outperforming me. We saw the data.

Oh my gosh. But I don't want your feelings to be hurt because he thought it was. I really, I don't get my feelings hurt. In the lobby of these buildings, it's all my face. You might get hurt by a comment like that. I don't, ever. Okay, just making it. Both of our faces are right here.

Yeah, he just didn't recognize that guy. He just didn't. He said. Well, both of us like 12 in that picture. We really do. It's cartoon. That's how you stay young. We got pretty heavy eyebrows too.

Do you have blue eyes? Do you have blue eyes? Nah. Are those blue on the screen? I'm colorblind. Yeah. I'm definitely green. I'll take that.

We appreciate Shaq for coming in. Pretty cool. He went to a World Cup in Qatar. That's wild. It's unbelievable. You think about all the soccer players in the world and you get picked to be on the team to represent your country.

that's got to be pretty prideful and a pretty big moment. Yeah, that's pretty cool. You guys are good? Everybody good over there? Yeah. Are you sure? You guys want to go pick up a little soccer game in the park after this? Or what?

No. Shag drives like bites. That's playing two-on-two soccer out in the front. Yeah. And then we've got the hacky sack on the side. Castle's doing a bicycle kick. All right, thank you guys for listening. We really appreciate it.

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