The Bobby Bones Show - Lots to Say: New #1 team, Flacco to Bengals, and Clutch QBs!

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel start with their newest Power Rankings and a surprise #1 team.  Bobby's rankings have a few new teams making their debut on the list.  The Seahawks and Bucs was the most entertaining game of the week.  Matt is stunned to see another player drop the ball before crossing the goal line.   Joe Flacco is traded to the Bengals and Bobby is excited to see the impact he's going to have on this team. Matt explains how the team adjusts the offense for an incoming QB. Who are the most 'clutch' QB's in the NFL?  The duel-threat players should top anyone's list.  Bobby talks about his betting habits and the games that interest him this weekend.   The Bill Belichick documentary has been cancelled and Bobby wonders if the head coach will return next season.  Matt weighs in on what's happening in College Football and his early Heisman thoughts.  Bobby adds on his early MVP thoughts and what the odds are right now. Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel is part of the NFL Podcast Network See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Search 40s and free agents and listen now. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and IHeart Podcasts. We got lots. Yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and Matt. Oh, yeah, welcome to the show. There's a lot.

We got a lot to say. We got a lot to say. So I'm just going to let you go first. You go with whatever you want to talk about. What do you want to talk about? What you want to talk about just in general, like life? Whatever you want, man. I mean, I'm pretty stoked right now.

My two oldest girls are on varsity playing volleyball one district last week, just one last night to be able to go to state. And I think this is the first time they've going to state as a high school. So it's a pretty big deal. Now, they've got two more games this week to decide their seating. Are they so good? They're really good. The whole entire team, they got six seniors on this team. So it's been so much fun to go watch this team compete and the fact that they've won the district.

And now they're in regionals and they're making their way to state. So it's just, it's exciting because it's, you know, how it goes. It's a long season. And they've been kicking butt and taking names. Your wife, excellent volleyball player at USC. Yes, that is correct. Does she crack the whip on them or no? She's actually helping coach the varsity team.

She's an assistant coach on the varsity. Is she hard? What coach is she? That's what she is the reserved, like their... Players coach? Yeah, players coach. Like, it's very supportive. Wow.

Doesn't really raise her voice. I think probably because she's seen so much during her playing days, and she's still traumatized by some of her coaches for yelling at her that she takes a different approach. But sometimes I even tell her, I was like, I need to see a little fire out of you. I need to see you light up and get after somebody. But that's not her personality. She's just there. Cool, calm customer.

A lot of poise over there. How do your daughters do playing for their mall? I think because of my wife's temperament, they really enjoy it because they look up to my wife. And I think that that's why they followed in her footsteps. And my wife's never been one of those people that cracks the whip or tries to push them or you've got to do this. If they ask, she gives feedback. But it's never like, you need to get out there and, you know, do your hip exercises or you're not snapping your wrist.

She gives coaching tips. And that's what she'll do. And that's how she presents it to everybody. So I think they really appreciate it. With me, my wife's pregnant and it's every... Let's go. Two or three days, there's a different kind of craving. Like, I can't just meet it with...

I'll predict your cravings. I know that you're big into ice cream right now. Or I know that you like a whole lot of vegetables and savory. Because if I do that, it changes in a day. Or she's like, oh, I can't even think about looking at another asparagus. I'm like, but no, that's all you've wanted for two days. Like you've wanted nonstop asparagus So I bought all this asparagus to have it ready for you

And she's like, no, give it to somebody else Because I can not even look at anything That's even related to the asparagus. I think now I need gummy bears. So I can't really predict And it's hard because I want to be there And make sure that I'm able to provide her With what she wants.

But it's hard to do predictive text With my pregnant wife Because I don't even think she knows what she's going to want Until she is like, I don't want that. Is there any way you can drive? I know it doesn't deliver, but there is an Italian place that's 41 minutes away. And you know what I do? I get in my freaking car. Do you really? And I drive across town and I pick up whatever it is and I bring it back. I'm proud of you. That's a good husband. Because when they're pregnant, I'm just going to be honest, at least in my experience,

they're emotionally unstable. And food is their soothing mechanism. So if we can provide something to take off the stress and their attention goes there. You're like, okay, I'll go get whatever you want. Plus, every now and then you need to break to get out of the house for a second. I got to say she was really sick. So she just stayed in the bed for a month, a month at least. But now she's pretty aware when she is feeling unstable. So she's able to counter that.

I like that. It's nice because it's really not that difficult. The only thing is she doesn't want me like hugging on or kissing on or anything. Yeah. Oh, no, no chance, dude. I'm trying to meet that with like, oh, come here. I know you don't feel good. So let me just give it.

She's like, no, no, no, don't touch me. Yeah, that's an ongoing battle. And especially as she gets a little bit bigger, you're kind of like, maybe I don't want to touch you today. Yeah. Not going to lie. I love you. I'll kiss that cheek. But my wife used to have this pillow.

And it was literally would wrap around. her stomach, she'd hold it there, and then it would wrap all the way around her butt. And I was like, there's no chance that I even get to cuddle. Like, it was just a, it was a comfort thing for her. And I was like, I don't even, I don't even know how to get close in the bed. There are, I'm going to say now it's about 40% of the time. She has me go sleep in a different room, because she'll wake up so much at night that she also is like, if I'm waking up so much, I'm waking you up and you have to go to work, but you're going to be grumpy all day when I need you being like not being grumpy for me.

So before we go to bed, she'll be like, I think it's a night you need to go upstairs. Oh, wow, thoughtful. Do you? Yeah, but in front of it feels like I'm getting kicked out though. You are. You are. She's like, actually, I want to stay up.

I want to watch some shows. I want to do my thing. And then I just want to go to sleep. And you're like, why don't you go to bed in the other room? I, I... Do you ever push back? No. No.

Early, I would be like, I can't believe you want me to leave the room. Like, I'm your husband. You're that way because of me. I tried that a couple times. Oh, good. No, not anymore. I just now I go upstairs and I sleep in the guest room. I've kind of put a couple things up there now. It kind of feels like my room a little bit. Like a little few posters from school. Bonos. Bonos. The shoulder pads with the bat. 100%. Yeah. She has a pregnancy pillow. It's different than the one that you explained, probably for a different reason, but it's very long. It's like if you were to open it all the way up, it's probably like five feet long. And it's like a tube. But you kind of wrap it. It looks like legs, right?

And so she's had to get two because I took the first one. It's awesome. I know. I'm not going to lie. Every now and then I'd sneak in there for a nap or something. You grab it and you're like, man, this is super comfortable. It is amazing. So, yeah, that's what's happening over here.

All right, let's bounce back and forth. Would you like to go first as we do our list of three? You know what? I would like you to go first this week. That's kind of you because I never want to take yours. Because you usually sit in one and you're fired up ready to go. No, no. I like when you take mine and then I'll pivot and not only have two this week.

Oh, that's a good point. You can just have to. I did make my new power rankings of NFL teams this week, and this has been the most difficult power rankings to make. This season has been the most difficult power rankings because there's so much unpredictability in this season. And it's cool. I like it.

I love it. Yeah, I do. The parity right now in the league is tremendous. Okay, so honorable mention, it's six, but honorable mention is the Colts. Hell yeah. The only reason that I don't have them in the top five, I enjoy watching them as much as any team,

because, like I've said before, I like Daniel Jones. John Taylor's awesome. Yes. Like, he scored three touchdowns this week? He's an absolute. I mean, we knew how good he was, but to see him play on a good team, he's able now to not have all nine guys watching him.

Right. That are anywhere near the line. Because they got to pitch to Tyler Warren. They got to watch Michael Patman Jr. Right. And so it's been nice. I put them at six. The only reason that I have them at six and not higher with their record is

they really, they played the Raiders, the Titans, the Dolphins. Yes. They did beat the Broncos. That's their one quality win. Quality win. And they lost the Rams, but they lost by seven points. That was a good loss. Right.

But nobody's undefeated. So they're four in one. Their only quality win is the Broncos. It's my favorite team to watch right now is the Colts. That's six honorable mention. And number five. And jumping into the list for the first time. And they have two really good wins is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Yes, Jacksonville. Like, they just nutted out that win against the Kansas City. Monday night football. And then also Trevor Lawrence backs against the wall, two minute drill. It's the one Brian Thomas Jr.

down the sideline. That ball was a perfectly thrown ball. And then the second throw as well, I mean, fell down, got back up. That was remarkable touchdown run. I'm not going to lie.

Remarkable that nobody got to him to touch him while he was down. Right. I had a lot of money on that game. I'll be honest. And I was like, somebody touched him. Come on.

And nobody, nobody touched him. And he's super athletic, but... He ran a lot, and he ran through the middle a lot. Oh, yeah, and he took some hits, too. He did. So I'm putting Jacksonville at five because, well, I hate their colors. Yeah, they're a tough color. It's ugly. Yeah. Does everybody... Do you agree their uniforms are ugly, or is it just me? The throwbacks were awesome. Wait, this week? Yeah. I hate them. I hate all their... I hate the colors. But the normal ones, yes. It's a bad green or blue or blue.

whatever that is. Yeah. Turquoise? I don't know. What is it? Let's see. Let's see. And the Jaguar is not like a cool jaguar.

It's like too much. It looks like you just dropped a bucket of paint. And that's what I just don't like it. British racing green. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, I knew that. I should have picked that color. And number four of the Buffalo Bills.

Yes. You could easily put them anywhere, one, two, three, or four. What? Wasn't a great. they should have won that game because New England gave them every opportunity to win the game. Gave him every opportunity. It was a penalty after penalty.

Yeah. They had, I think, 11 or 12 penalties in that game. They didn't play sound football at times. And then Drake May has coming out party. I mean, that kid is good. He's good. I'd be before it, three, the Lions. Coordinators, what?

Dan Campbell's demand. Nobody needs. Who needs coordinates? He doesn't need coordinators. He should just hired nobody. Dan Campbell just needs to stand up and talk to the team. And then the offense can go out and call their own plays. and just still dominate people.

Dan Campbell should just send him a text and then stay home and just let them go do their thing. Gibbs and Montgomery too. Those two together in the backfield. Are you kidding me? Number two, the Eagles. They're still one of the top teams, in my opinion. Even though they've been getting away with some ugly victories.

They obviously lost the Denver this last week, but at the same time, they'll figure out how to win ball games. And they've got enough players all around, all pros all over that field on both sides of the ball, that they're going to be fine. And at number one, their first week holding that number one spot. And I laughed so hard to watch

Baker Mayfield talking to that Seahawks fan before the game. Because Baker, it's fun for him. Yes. I didn't feel like there was anything where he actually wanted to fight the guy. No, it wasn't, right? Do you guys agree?

But Baker, you don't feel like he's going to hop off and Ron Ortest somebody. No, it's all, like, competitive. Yeah, yeah. And he, like, he enjoys it. And then after he came back to that fan, when he was coming back, back through, like the bucks and what Baker's able to do.

They win ugly, but they win. And I'm starting to think every time Baker has the ball at the end of the game, like give him 48 seconds and he's going to make it happen. I have the bucks at number one. It's four wins now. And that was going to be one of my talking points. But do you want any other quarterback other than him in a two-minute drill right now? Let's go to your talking point.

That's my list. Go ahead. I know, but I totally agree with you because he gets the ball in that situation and there's no flinching. Everybody believes in him. and he goes on it. He's won four of these type games thus far of the season. And the performance that he had against the Seahawks, who's been playing good defense up to this point,

I mean, he missed three throws all day. He threw for over 370 yards, four touchdowns, and then ends it with the two-minute drill again and brings his team to victory. It's awesome to watch. I do want to say, shout out Sam Darnold. Oh, what a game. Yeah, because I think a little gets lost that Baker is,

the louder of the two and Baker won the game and Baker like you said he said has won four of those games but a lot of people where hey Sam Darnold is leaving Kevin O'Connell he's probably going they're spending a bunch of money and he's really not going to flourish in Seattle Sam Darnel's good

he's really good and he's shown that week and a week out even this last game against the Bucks who's got a good defense he goes out there basically matches Baker's stats he had the one interception late that really that's what led to them going on that drive but at the end of the day he has been phenomenal and put this team in a position to win every single week.

And I think he's silenced a lot of the critics and proven to a lot of people. He wasn't just a system guy. He's got the skill set, the mentality to go lead and be a franchise quarterback. Isn't it funny to see when they list that old Panthers roster when it's Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, two of the quarterbacks on the roster, Chuba Hubbard, DJ Moore, like this is all the Panthers. That shows you that's the Panthers fault. Panthers, and that's, isn't that an organizational?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What up? Keep pounding. Yeah. Just keep going to, right. We learn from our mistakes, I promise. I'm rooting for the Panthers, but David Tepper, not really a great owner, I don't think. Yeah.

I think, I don't know. I don't know. I'd like to buy part of the team. McCaffrey, too. And Christian McCaffrey. He was heard a lot. To be fair, he couldn't stay on the field. But, to be honest, I think maybe I wouldn't want to stay on the field either if that was the case.

Who's playing quarterback this week? Oh, no. Oh, gosh. you're up. All right. Did you see the Cardinals running back? Amari. Did I see it?

What the heck? The Macado. Oh. And it's crazy because the week before, actually, in the Colts game, the week before when they lost to the Rams, it was the same thing. I think it was Mitchell that had a 75 yard or something like that and drops the ball before he goes through it. It's a touchback.

They end up losing by seven. But this is a team that's going down to go up 28 to 6 in the fourth. And then did you see the interaction between Jonathan Gannon? Talk about that. hit him and now he's apologized, but what do you think? I think it was an overreaction, emotions got the best of you, but you never put your hands on a player. Even that circumstance, he obviously understands what he did. And there's nobody that's going to be more embarrassed and devastated than that than him.

It costs the team. Literally, they know that the actual Titans were going to come back and win at that point. It cost him the game. It cost him the game. And so I think it was just, he feels the pressure being the the head coach of this team. They've lost three games now on last second field goals. They're a team that I thought early on this season could potentially contend for the NFC West just because of the squad that they have and Kyle Murray and I think that they did really well in the draft. But it's those type of plays that they don't, they can't make that mistake because their margin for error is so small. So I understand why the head coach got heated, but you can never put your hand

player like that. That just looks ridiculous. Can you talk to me about why players want to get rid of the ball so fast? It's like, ah, touch the line. Because I think I would never let go of the ball. If I scored a touchdown, I'd be like, you're coming back with me, baby. It's unexcusable. I mean, at the end of the day, finish the play in the end zone. There's, and I don't know if it's showboating. I don't know if it's one of those things that these guys have done it so many times and run into the end zone and then just drop the ball and went to celebrate. But you have to understand. You have to understand. You have to understand where you are in the field and be able to just complete the play. And it's not like this hasn't happened. It usually happens once a year and you've seen it. And it's something that's

not really talked about or addressed by the head coach. Really? It doesn't get addressed. It really doesn't unless it's your team. Right? Because it's one of those plays that you should know playing football for as long as we have that you have to get in the end zone and then spike it, dance, do whatever you want to do. But just never to the point to where you get so nonchalant with the ball, where you drop it and it costs your team. I have a theory and it isn't a fully formulated theory. But you never see people do that when it's a 7-yard, a 12-yard, a 2-yard touchdown run. Right.

It only happens when it's like 40 or 50 and you're wide open, you've got a lot of time to think. Yeah. I've never seen anyone drop the ball an inch a yard before if their mind is only on scoring. It's when your mind is able to be on other things because you have so much. They're always breakaway. They're always break away. It's never, like you said, you're at the goal line, you break outside, and you've got that walk, and you're completing the play, right?

It's, they've been running for so long, and they know that this is a highlight real. And they're already thinking about it, right? They're already, you know, like, oh, my gosh, this is amazing. I just ran for 75-yard touchdown. It's like, all right, now, now what? And like 50 yards in, they're like, oh, here it is, baby. I look at the Jumbotron, nobody's behind me. I got it.

I'm about to throw, who, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's that TikTok. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's such a great TikTok. But then you also, to be fair to him, they intercept the ball late in that game. And the safety fumbles, he was not contacted.

He was not touched, and he fumbles the ball into the end zone. The Titans recover in the end zone for another touchdown. I mean, it was just a comedy of errors at that point. I was just like, oh, my God. The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks.

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I'm glad to say it. I'm happy to report it. You probably saw it yesterday. Joe Flacco to the Bengals. Let's go. Let's go, Joe. I mean, I think that Joe Flacco to the Bengals will win them three or four games more than they would have won. They just need somebody serviceable back there.

Yes. And Flacco is serviceable. Flacco's not going to win them a Super Bowl. But they gave Browning a shot. multiple weeks, it's been a disaster. It really has. And I feel bad for him. Me too. It's been a disaster. I think Flacco can go in with Higgins, with Jemar Chase, with, and I think they can win some games.

So I'm excited. I like Cincinnati. I want to see Cincinnati win some games. And also I want to see what happens in that division. Baltimore lost again. Baltimore, historically bad defense. I cannot believe what I'm watching. And Baltimore's bad defense with no.

Lamar, which is what happened. It's the Bengals now. Yes. I mean, that's what it is. I am so pumped to see that the Bengals went and got them a quarterback. And I think, I don't know, I think they can win seven games now. Listen, they're not going to make the playoffs, but I think they can win seven or eight

games now. Well, you also look at the system that they run. They don't really rely on a quarterback to have to get out of the pocket and do all that. With Joe Burrow, they were a pocket passing team. And if they can get somebody like Flacco to come in and play within that system. That's right in his lane. And then you, like you mentioned, the weapons, he'll be able to give

them a lift offensively and make the correct decision because he's been doing it forever. And he's a guy that I think you have a lot of trusting to go out, make the right decision, put your team in the right position to go out and win games, but especially with that talent that they have out on the outside. How long until it is Flacko, so he's playing a lot of places. I think his learning curve is probably going to be not as hard because he has, played multiple systems, multiple places. How long until he can actually understand all the offense? I think it goes with what in your past have you done? Have you been in that type of system before, particularly in protections? Because protections are always called, you could be in a jet protection,

you could be in a number of protection. You could be in all different types of protection. So what type of protection scheme do you have you run before in the past? In addition to that, how much of the terminology in terms of route concepts, carry over from what you've done previously, because there's subtle changes in every offense. So it's a matter of what experience he's had in the system before, and is it something that he's done? If he has, he's got experience he can go out and play pretty quickly, but if he hasn't, it's going to take him a few weeks to get up to speed and actually understand the offense in its entirety. If a new quarterback goes in and they're expected to play quickly, will they somewhat hybrid or even dumb down the offense that week for the quarterback?

100%. You'll go in and you'll meet with the offensive coordinator. And I did it actually in Dallas. I was there for two weeks before I actually made my first start. And this was a completely different system under Jason Garrett that I'd ever run before in Scott Linehan. So it was a number system with different types of protection schemes. And I was like, wow, my head was blown. I was in the office all day, every day, studying until 10 o'clock at night, just trying to figure out the number system and make sure that I could relate it conceptually to something that I did in the past. And so when I did get the first start, a lot of the conversation was, what are you comfortable with?

And then it's the situational stuff, two-minute drill, two-by-two, three-by-one. Do you like certain concepts more than another? And so they simplify the game plan to a certain point, not so dramatically that you don't have enough bullets in the gun, but to where you've run this concept before, you're familiar with it, and you feel like you can go out there and be successful. I'm going to just switch to the Cowboys for a second. When you are starting for the Cowboys, your first game,

is it pretty cool to see yourself in that uniform? It was awesome. I mean, because I grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan because I told you my dad grew up in Texas, and so it was a little bit surreal. And we were playing the Giants. Now, the day itself didn't go too well. I got it picked off quite a few times.

Yeah, it was one of those where maybe I should have told him another play that I liked. But we battled back. I threw some touchdowns, but all in all, just putting on that, uniform, there's a mystique to it. And also, if you grew up in the 90s like I did, watching them and understand that was your childhood dream to play not only in the NFL, but also putting on that star, it's something pretty special. That's pretty cool. I guess the other thing is,

whenever you're having to learn all of this and you go out for the first time, and the key to me in any sort of performance, if it's comedy or music or live television or live radio, is, and it's the most elementary thing, is to keep my heart rate down because I think better when my heart rate is down. That's natural. If your heart rate's lifted, you're in lizard brain and you're reacting more than you're responding. And there's a massive difference to the two.

But when you have to go in and it's such, it's so high impact, it's so fast. And you're supposed to remember all this. Whether or ever times you just kind of revert it back in your own head to, okay, this is too much and I learned too much. Let me just, okay, you run this route. this route and just kind of you have to just take a second and do it old school in the huddle no it's never like you change the play and that that's the biggest challenge i think for any quarterback going into a new system that gets traded and put into that situation is you're thinking a lot because it just

it doesn't it's not second nature yet so you're trying to comprehend okay what did this relate to before my pass and try to put this all together while deciphering what the defense is doing and getting the protection call out. And as you said, every 40 seconds, it's going off like clockwork. And so there's an overwhelming sense. But once you make a few plays in the game, I think it's helpful to calm your nerves down a little bit. Because every game when you go out,

there's that intensity of the first series or two that the speed of the game is revved up. And then all of a sudden you start to settle in, you start to understand what the defense is doing. And then you can have that conversation, too, on the sideline. like, hey, I didn't really know what I was doing right there. I guess that's my point. Let's get back to this.

Like if you're nervous or things aren't going as planned and your heart rates up, yet you're still supposed to think of all this new stuff you just learned. A lot of times that doesn't mix. Right. It doesn't. And you miss reads or you're slow to a read. You're not getting off the backside. You're not getting off this read to get to your checkdown quick enough because you're

overthinking it. You're like, okay, I think I know exactly what they're doing, but I'm not totally 100% confident in it. All right, let's go Joe Flacco. That's my point. Let's go Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. It would be awesome to see Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals win that division.

And I think it's possible. How great would that be? Joe Flacco to go in. Awesome. Just walk in. I saw a clip on TikTok and it was us talking. I mean, I saw a clip. It was our clip.

And the clip was us talking about the Bengals and me going. Fire every. Baltimore's one and three. This is before they lost this week. Baltimore's one and three. Cleveland is terrible offensively. And Pittsburgh, they're just going to be fine.

And so it's me saying this, and it's you saying real smart things and me saying real dumb things. And then somebody in the comments was like, do you guys even know football? And I never respond to stuff on a clip. And I responded. I said,

we do. We both played in the league for over 10 years. Yes. Yeah, I took some of yours. Yeah, but I said, of course we do. We both played in the league. and they were like, oh.

Oh. So anyway, there you go. That's what I do. I just lie. It's the internet, man. Why not? You can say anything. They'll believe you.

Yes, of course. How many articles are you pull up on a day that is written by somebody that has no idea what they're writing about? Yeah, most. All right, you're up. Right now in the league, if it's two-minute drill, is there a quarterback that you want running that two-minute drill other than Baker-Mayfield? Great question. The answer is yes. I do want Baker-Mayfield, though.

So I think we should we should rank them because, number one, I still want Patrick Mahomes. I know he's so good. I still want him. I still want him. This is going to be the most cliche. I still want Josh Allen. I still want Lamar Jackson. I think those are just the three

because all three of those guys are very mobile. They're very bendy. They can also run. That's the most cliche answer. And I do say that too easy. I know that's probably not what you're asking. But let's go beyond that. Who do you want next?

Who do I want next? You want Baker next? Yes, I want Baker next. You want Baker more than those three? Right now, the way that he's been put in that situation consistently. Yes. Your life's on the line, though. Life's on the line.

I'm still going Baker right now. I'm riding this Baker train, dude. I think you're going to die. He's cooking. I think you're getting murdered. But okay. Okay, great. He does it every single game.

And that's sustainable for sure. It's sustainable through a 17-game season. And that's what I'm telling you. So every week, they're going to win by Baker going out and having last game heroics. Well, I'm convinced of it. What's funny is that is every win for them, though. Right.

It's been crazy. I'm also, I really like Jalen Hertz in that as well because he will just run the ball. He will. He will run the ball. There is the dual threat component that you talked about with those first three guys that they add something. All five of them do.

Baker's dual threat. We can't act like he's not. That's true. And he's shown that. He's tough as nails. See, Baker, ride the train, baby. Ride the train. I think about getting on the choochoo.

I'll be honest with you. Okay, so I think that might be my top five. It's not Kyler. Kyler got a concussion from the ball hitting him from a snap. Yeah, he might not be there. That was crazy. Like he's looking off a shot and got to say, boom, right in the head. Then he goes off and has to get a check for a concussion.

He also, I say this as somebody who, if Kyler Mary saw me and was like, I think we should fight, he would kill me. I would die. I would just die. Okay, so the next comment is. He looks like a toddler running on. When he, like, runs around the outside, it's like a kid who's running off in Walmart from their parent.

But that kid is so fast. He does not want his parents to catch him. It's like you look and you go, that parent needs to put a leash on that kid because you can't catch him. But that's what, he's so small. He is,

but he's such a phenomenal talent. It's crazy. I agree. You know what I'd go with next? Who? Matt Stafford. Yes, and for a different reason, that's a great point.

Not because he's mobile, because he has, he's smart and has a cannon, right? He's smart and has a cannon. He's got weapons around him, but he's a dude that's seen it all. And he does not flinch.

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Yeah. So are you one of those guys that sit there and you'll do your little bets? They're not little. Big bets? No, they're just bets. David Port and I over there. Do not call me little, okay? Big bets, okay, big money.

They're not little. Kevin, excuse me? They are not little. Okay, I thought you were talking. Go ahead. No, no, I've seen the screenshots and... No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, you're one of those guys.

Hey, bro, check this out. No, no, no, no, it's not like that. I'm just saying, like, yeah, no. Everybody needs to take a breath, attacking me, because here's what's happening. I enjoy betting. I do bet. Are you a religious beter throughout the?

the entire game. If I'm... It just depends on the game and how I'm feeling. Okay. Like, I don't need to bet to enjoy a game. I like to bet. It's entertainment for me. And so it's fun if I'm, like,

when I was watching the Chiefs in Jacksonville. I had a Kelsey anytime touchdown. I had a Kelsey next touchdown. Let's go. Now, I'm also not someone who's like, I win all the time because I don't. I share with the boys all the time. Like, pretty bad week.

Great week. So, but when you say your little bets, I didn't. No, I know what you meant. Yeah. Well, and again, we're not arguing against you, but when I said that, you're the one that jumped on it. And you said, no, no, no, they're not little. I'm not doing this from him.

I'm not doing this from him. You're a rich quarterback. Okay, here we go. Let's see what little bit we're going to bet this week. Three biggest games in the NFL this upcoming weekend. And let's go through. And these are three games that I've pulled. 49ers at bucks.

Both those need a four and one, right? because the 49ers Mac Jones has three wins I think they are four in one I think it's the battle of the four and ones yep oh yeah bucks are two and a half point favorites

they are playing in Tampa I don't know make you pick here Baker Mayfield baby walk off field goal covers boom for I mean Tampa Bay Buccaneers yeah I'm gonna go bucks and I'm going to give up the points as well

they're in Tampa again I think the 49ers are playing really well but it's it's Mac Jones again, right? Like, this is the Mac Jones store. He even saw a dead body before the game last week and came out and played it in the one. You see that?

What happened? He saw a dead body in London before the game and then went out and what? I didn't hear that. Look it up. Look it up. Hopefully I didn't get Facebooked. Because I'm not even on Facebook,

but Facebook lies all the time on everything. Just in case I did get Facebook. Yes. And then he comes in after the game and like his split up, looks like a Porter Wagner suit, but he's in like red and black, one red, one's white.

Dude, you got the hell beat out of them too. Yeah, it's limping. What do you see? Yeah, he was on his balcony in London, looked out in the water, saw floating dead body. Oh my gosh. Dedicated the game to that body. No, he didn't do that. But that's crazy.

Yeah, is he starting next week coming up? I don't think that Brock Party's back this week. And I don't think Lamar Jackson's back this week. And I don't think so. John Mateer's back this week, although that is Oklahoma and not NFL. We're talking about quarterbacks. Red River Shoot out. Who probably aren't back.

Yeah, it's likely that he will start. Purdy? Yeah. So Purdy is back. No, I'm sorry, Mac Jones. Got it. How do you feel being a Patriots fan? Watching Mac Jones actually play pretty well.

I can't help it to laugh. And the Niners, like, I'm indifferent about them. They're cool. So if it was like a jet or something like that. But now I'm like, yeah, I'm like, cool, dude, good for you. You're getting your shine. You deserve it. And just see how long it could last.

Just hang on there, Niners fans. I believe he's a little. You're a hater. He's a hater. Yeah. I think he's a little bit more settled. the fact that the guy Drake May is playing the way that he is. That definitely helps.

Yeah, it definitely helps. Well, and Mac Jones came in in that tumultuous time when Belichick was on the way out. Fair. Yeah, his system, what they set him up with was just disastrous. And if I'm right here, Josh McDaniel wasn't the O.C. Yeah. Josh McDaniels was the O.C. the first year, he goes to the Pro Bowl that year. They go to the playoffs, get boat race by the bills.

The next year, Josh takes the job with the Raiders. Oh, Raiders got it. Oh, takes the job. Right. Takes the job with the Raiders. And then Matt Patricia, who had been a defensive-minded guy, no longer with the Detroit Lions, came back. And they put, for whatever reason, Belichick put him as the offensive coordinator. And so when you lose the mastery that Josh McDaniel has of calling offenses and you put in a guy like Matt Patricia, who's got a ton of respect for it, but I don't know how much he called plays.

And then, in addition to that, he gets hurt. hurt and I think it was the second game or third game of that season, a really bad ankle injury. He's out for four weeks. So there was all types of different adversity that he was fighting. And then, of course, you know, you get the bandwagon, especially when you're in that Boston media market and it starts going downhill and Jake Zappy steps in and plays well. Bailey?

Bailey. I meant that. Sorry. Jake Brown, Bailey Zappies. Yeah, just, you know, it was just all different types of factors that led to him on his way out. Number two. Lions at Chiefs in Kansas City, Chiefs are a two and a half point favorite. How do you not pick the lions here? It's the last game though before Rishi Rice is back. He's on a six game suspension.

And Xavier Worthy looked, listen, he's dynamic and he looked really good. The problem is he hurt his ankle again. He did come back in, but I don't feel like he's even at 100% right now. Right, you got Worthy, you've got Hollywood Brown. I mean, they've got a ton of speed out there. Juju Smith's Shoes is older at this point, but I just don't think their offense has a pure identity other than Patrick Mahomes. If he doesn't scramble around and make plays, a lot of times it's at a system

or he's their leading rusher in these games. That's not a recipe for consistent success. I can't believe the Lions are getting two points. I'm going to go with the Lions. I'm going to go with the Lions too. Lions plus two and a half. And finally, Seahawks at Jags, and they will be in Jacksonville.

Jaguars are a one and a half point favorite. Pick it up. After last night's victory, they're playing well, but I'm going with the Seahawks. I'm going with Sam Darnold. I think the defensive performance that they had this last weekend isn't necessarily who they are. And as long as that defense shows up, Sam Darnold's playing a really high level. And it's easier to go west to east. It is.

Because that's all, that is, listen, it's a long trip. You'll be a little dehydrated, but it's easier to go Seattle to Florida. No, no, I don't think so. It's west to east because what times is the kickoff? I don't know. Probably noon looking at that game. But if it's noon, you're right,

I'm wrong. You're starting at nine. I'm doing it. Yeah. It is noon. Oh, so it's a 9 o'clock start. So that's a lot harder travel.

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Thank you very much. Yes, you will. Let me tell you something about this. I haven't shared this. So when the Patriots, no, excuse me, when the Chiefs went down, after Jacksonville has scored, I'm like, for sure,

Mahomes about to come back. And they were, I was getting two points. So it was the Chiefs plus two once they fell down seven. Is everybody with me? So Jacksonville won up a full touchdown on Monday night. This is like third quarter. So it was Kansas City plus two and a half.

So I put a thousand bucks on it. Ooh. Mm. And it had multiple opportunities to cash out. It's big. And I lost, obviously. That one hurt. Yeah, that'll sting.

Yeah, that one hurt. Yeah. Especially when they, like, are offering you the payout and you're like, hey, if you take $8.50 right now, which is like $1850, you're, and I was like, no. No. For sure, this is perfect. Pick six. No.

So it wasn't really your wife. You're sleeping in the other room. You just were like, I'm going to sleep in the other room. Here's the thing about me and betting. I don't get mad when I lose. There's no, not even a comment, like a, oh my God. Yes, yes, that, but I shake it pretty quick. Do you?

Yeah, because, again, if I'm betting enough to irritate me, I'm betting too much. I got, okay, I take it back. I get irritated when I lose. I don't get, like, upset because I'm not betting enough to make me upset. If I bet enough to make me upset, then I shouldn't. Yeah, live to bet another day. shouldn't be doing this. Live to bed another day.

Yeah, I forgot about that. Brush that. One final thing here. Ooh. They canceled the Bill Belichick dock on Hulu in North Carolina. Oh, they did? Yeah. They're like, I don't know how this goes or how we are able to sell this, but at the end of the day, I don't know if this is riveting television.

They canceled it. Mm. Like, yeah. So they stopped shooting it because they're shooting it all season, right? Right. It was supposed to be a docu-series, basically, through. throughout the entire season. That's like a horror.

Like, tragedy. Do we have to come back here? Like, yeah, it's going to be a tough first year there for old coach. I wonder if he'll want to coach a second year. I think he will just to write the ship knowing him competitively. Tell me more, because you do know his personality a bit. Well, I just know that he came in. This really, he hasn't even had a recruiting class yet.

But he got to buy it. some players. I mean, not that that's different. Everybody buys players. He didn't get to buy some players. Yeah, I mean, they might have brought in a few guys from the transfer portal, but at the end of the day, he hasn't had a full recruiting class yet. So, I'm guessing he's going to go out, recruit like

crazy, bring in a bunch of dudes, hit the transfer portal hard, and that team's going to look completely different next year. And that's what my feeling is, and he's going to try to say, and use that as motivation to say, hey, I'm going to prove you guys wrong. But if he doesn't,

And year two is bad. I think that like hurts his overall brand. I think one bad year doesn't hurt his brand. He's at North Carolina. But they don't usually... Cignetti goes to Indiana. That's true. That is true.

And man, they're awesome. They're really fun to watch, aren't they? And last year, you know, it was, they didn't play anybody. And then they played Ohio State and Oregon. They got beat. So Indiana, they're kind of a... You know, they're a good team

when they're not playing anybody. This year, they play people and they win. They play people. when they beat Illinois, and Beelma is my favorite. I love Beelma. And they were ranked 9, and they were 15 or whatever it was? It was over immediately. It was, what was it, 66 to like 7?

Now, that's going to be a fun game to watch in college football this weekend, too, because I think Indiana goes to Oregon. So you'll find out a lot. I think what we're going to find out is Indiana is still really good. But, man, Oregon's next level. Their next level. When I was out on the field and we had the Penn State, Oregon game. I'm looking at their offensive line that averages 6, 4, 315. I'm going,

this looks different. Defensive line. Everybody around. Dante Moore, wide receivers. Their two freshman cornerbacks are all, they're six foot. I mean, that's a big cornerback. They've got dudes all over the field that look like NFL talent. Hey, who's the favorite for the Heisman right now? Is that who it is? Because I think Moore's probably the favorite, right? I believe he was up there, or it was... Carson Beck, maybe. I think that's probably one two or two-one.

I would bet it's those two. Yeah, it looks like Carson Beck and then Dante Moore. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How about this one? I have two. Who's the MVP right now in the NFL?

I don't know the odds. Would you look that up? Because I'm going to declare who... Baker Mayfield. That's one that I think is well. I have another one. I think you're going to go. go with

Daniel Jones. Oh no, I would, though. I definitely would. How about that? Yeah, that would be awesome. That would be great. Don't, okay, do you have the odds up? Yes.

For MVP? Yeah. Okay. Is Baker Mayfield in the top two? No. Okay, they're wrong. Okay. I'm going to go bet that.

And then I would put Dak Prescott. Ooh. Oh, that's, he is playing really high level. If they win 10, 11 games, with a bad defense. No defense.

Again, it's the Jets, though. So you have to look at this last week and go, it's the Jets. But if they can win 10 or 11 games, and he's playing awesome. He's playing out of his mind. Where is he in the list? Where's the old Dakota? Oh, no, you're having to count.

That ain't good. He's like, hold on, let me do the math. One, two. He's minus. He's down there. Really? Josh Allen? Is it the old trustees at one and two?

Yep. Is it Mahomes and Josh Allen? Yep. Okay, so fine. Who else you got? And so Baker's three, by the way. Okay, nice. He's right there.

So he's not too far down the list. And then you have Stafford at 4. Yeah, Stafford. Great. Jordan Love, Jared Gough, Jalen Hertz, Justin Herbert, Jaden Daniels, Lamar Jackson, Drake May, Daniel Jones, Dak, Prescott. What's he at plus what? Plus 3,000. That is a bet that I would even put 20 bucks on.

It's not a bad bet. I mean, that's a little bit, though, 20 bucks. Yeah, I agree. pays out $600. Yeah, you can put $20 on that. Do I think he will win it? No.

Look at Brandon. Brandon's over there. He's like, I'm in. He's already placing the bet. I'm in. I like the Baker bet, though. Yeah. Because if they continue to win,

they're not going to want to give it to the same guy over and over again. In a winnable division. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Hey, how long was this version, this episode? Close to 50.

That we just did. Okay, so we have a whole second episode coming up with Dallas Clark. So we're going to stop this. episode. That's it. That's a wrap. We're done on this one. We do have another one, though, a Dallas part coming up, and I will say this. It is, I think, my favorite interview we've ever done. It's one of the greatest interviews.

Just because of his personality. Yes. He is outstanding, great storyteller. Yeah, go find that. So, this is episode one of the week. That's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. Kickoff Kevin. That's Brandon Ray. We've had lots to say. We'll see you get... Well, we'll see in a minute. Unless they get put up

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