The Bobby Bones Show - Lots to Say: Texans WR Nico Collins and Sports Movie Draft

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel start with players working through offseason training and recovery and how wives can play a part.  Texans WR Nico Collins drops by with an update on his hamstring and the process of installing a new offensive coordinator.  Nico relives playing at Michigan under Jim Harbaugh then being drafted into the NFL. What expectations does Nico have for this season in Houston? After talking about the craziest fanbases in the NFL, we play 'What Were They Like' with Matt telling a fun story about Doug Flutie and his drop kick PAT. Bobby chimes in with his Bear Grylls experience. Bobby and Matt begin a 'Sports Movie Draft' by drafting their leader of the teams, followed by their athletic freaks and enforcers. Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel is part of the NFL Podcast Network See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to another episode. Coming up, we have wide receiver, Nico Collins, who is just a straight stud. We'll talk to him about his upcoming season with Texans and mostly if he's like back from being injured. It's weird, Matt. Like when you're injured and you're a pro athlete, there's a fine line of pushing it but also stopping so you can get back as fast as possible. Do you ever hit that line exactly right? You know, I think it's probably something that every individual is a little bit different,

but you're always trying to push yourself so you can get back as quick as possible and get back into like the OTAs, offseason training. And it's based on your injury and also the feedback that you have to give and be very open with with your trainers, the medical staff, and everything like that. But the minute you do start pushing too hard

and then you set yourself back, well, that's what you're trying to avoid at all costs. So there's a happy medium because obviously the recovery in these injuries now that used to be nine months, you see you guys coming back in four to five months.

So the methods of training and recovery has changed dramatically and also the different details that they use and the sports science and everything else has evolved. So you're absolutely able to see guys come back at a much quicker rate, but you just don't want to ever sacrifice that into injuring yourself again and setting yourself back in the process. Yeah, I feel like if it were a contract year, like there are probably a lot of variables.

If it's your first year in a new contract, you're probably handling it different based on your security. Would there be accuracy in that statement? 100%. I mean, if you're coming up on a contract year, I remember even when I was in New England, I sublux my knee cap, which means it came out of place and went back in. And I already had surgery on this thing when I was in college because I did just that.

But my knee was swollen like crazy. But I knew I got to play that year. Things went well, thought I might be up for a bigger contract. so I wasn't going to say anything because they were saying that you potentially need to go get a scope, do this, that, and the other, but I was like, no chance. Because if all of a sudden you go in and you have that injury that you can get through, but it's not significant to where you have to have surgery, then you try to fight that because you don't want teams to look at you and go, well, he's got the injury,

so we're not going to pay him or we're going to go a different direction because he's injured. So you just have to kind of work through some of that stuff. And then after you get that contract, it might be a little bit different. You might be able to take a little bit more time because you don't feel like that sense of urgency to the rush because you've been paid and that's just, that's human nature. My last contract in media with the company, IHartRadio, because my last deal was a five-year deal before the one that I'm in now,

which is similar. But I was in the last year of my deal. And it's something I haven't talked about a whole lot, but it's similar in that I didn't want them to know. But I woke up one morning. and this is probably 16 months before my deal was up, but the negotiation starts with over a year left because there's so many small details inside of it.

And so I didn't want them to know, but I woke up and I couldn't read one morning, meaning I remember, like nothing happened to me except for when I opened my eyes that morning and I opened my computer to start working on the show, on the radio show, which I wake up at like 3.30 or 4 in the morning, I couldn't read the screen. And I thought, well, this is bizarre.

I have a terrible vision anyway. My right eye doesn't work. So I just thought, maybe this is a vision thing. I get to work. I still can't read. My thoughts aren't really connecting. And I remember going to my coast and going, hey, you have to cover me.

Something's wrong in my eyes. Like, that's what I said just to get through it. And so she's like, cool. And so she covers me the whole show. I call my doctor and he's like, hey, I think you should go see a neurologist. So I go to a neurologist. And they do all this stuff too.

me on these tests. And he says to me at the time, he says, hey, I think you had a seizure in your sleep. And this could happen at any time. And I'm like, well, that sucks in my sleep. And it could happen at any time. Like, what led to this seizure in my sleep? And he's like, there's a hundred variables. He said, so let's just knock out, you know, make sure you're eating right. It's very general. Because my neurologist wasn't like my close doctor. So, okay, cool. I slowly, it takes about three weeks to where I can actually read words on a page again. I could get them a little bit. I still wasn't, my brain wasn't connecting.

And I wasn't telling anybody at work about this because, again, it's basically a contract year. And so it happens again. And I remember saying on the show, I was like, I have a crazy brain fog. Now, this is like 12 months now. This was a few months, four or five months later. I had crazy brain fog. I said it on the ear, and I think I was struggling

a little bit with communication. And there were things at the time, not everything, but there were things like, I would see this yellow thing on the table, and I would go, I know what that's called. I just can't place it.

This yellow thing, it was a banana, right? It's something that we see all the time every day, but I didn't know the name of the banana. And so, I was like, man, this is bizarre. Maybe I had another seizure in my sleep. At the time, I was doing idle,

and they asked me to go dance with the stars. And so I go over and I'm going to dance with the stars. And I remember I couldn't remember any steps on the show the whole time. Like I couldn't remember. I have a pretty good memory, but I could remember no steps. It wasn't a good dancer anyway, but I had to muscle memory everything, which means two or three hours for somebody turned in like nine or ten for me because whatever your brain does to memorize things, I didn't have it. I couldn't remember people's names. So it happens one other time. and my wife who we had just started dating, and I was telling her about this

because one had happened a few months prior to meeting her. She was like, hey, that ain't normal. This has happened three times. I'm like, yeah, but I can't, I don't want to work because I don't want them to think this guy that we're paying a lot of money to be able to think and create and be compelling and be funny that he can't do it. So I'm hiding the injury, basically,

just like someone with a hurt knee, like you mentioned with you. And so we connect with a neurologist, like my agent, Like, hey, I know somebody who's dad's a neurologist. Turns out I had blood clotting in my brain. I had three small strokes over like five years. Oh, my gosh. Exactly. I didn't know that because I wasn't trying to even know because I was like, if I don't know,

I'm not holding back. I don't want my company to know. And so I, you know, got on medicine. I still a little bit deal with it. I can tell when I'm having really bad days. But I hid it because I did not want my company to know I had had these three. They're called as schemies as blood clotting in my brain, many strokes to where they would go, well, we don't think we can pay them what we think

for the same exact freaking reason, because I thought they're going to think that I don't have the capacity to perform at a high level, the high level I've been performing at, so I hid the crap out of it. Now, had this been year one of my contract, I'd have been like, I'm having strokes. I'm having strokes. I need out of here for four months. but that's tough that's the closest I've ever been to a pro athlete

trying to hide a knee injury right there I mean that's a little bit more serious when you can't remember what a banana or the names of people that's pretty weird and at the same time really scary and that would make me like super afraid

like what's going on here at the same time like you said when it comes down to these corporate groups or a team or anything like that any little thing that they can put a liability claim or something like that into your contract that says if he has another one, we don't have to pay him. Or he has to pay back the monies that we've already paid him

or something like that, where you're just trying to avoid that at all cost because you're right there at the finish line to finish the contract and you're like, well, I don't want them obviously to hold anything back because I've earned this, but I do have a little bit of something here, a little baggage in your case, little strokes that might impact that. Yeah, I didn't want them to go, hey, we love you, and you've outperformed your last contract, but we don't feel in all good faith,

we can pay you as much as we would have with this, quote, injury that you have now. Because if I were the corporation, I would do the same thing I was worried about them doing to me. So, understood it, just hit it, and I'm basically a pro bowler. That's what we're getting to. Basically recovered, and we're all good now,

and they are very happy. Now, did you ever actually tell them about any of this, or this is going to be the first time they're hearing it? It could be the first time they're hearing it. I've only talked about it once or twice ever. But I'm so deep in this contract now. But what it turned out, because all this gray matter in my brain that was all jacked up,

it was just from sleep. I didn't sleep for years and years and years. And my doctor was like, hey, I can see like the exact, maybe not dates, but how long it's been since the last ones because of my brain, they showed me on a scan.

And he was like, I bet you had one like seven months ago. I bet you had one because of, again, the gray or white matter. And now, but I got like years left. So if they were to say something now, I'd be like, ah, what are you going to do? You know, I got three years left in this deal.

Yeah. I can't remember a banana. Who cares? Exactly. How we're talking about bananas every day. You know what I mean? My wife does, she like keeps me in line, though. Like if I'm starting to even feel it, like she kind of cracks the whip,

how was your wife with you playing ball and that? Was she, because my wife's super supportive, but also if I'm like, overdoing something. She knows that my goal is to be the best version I can be professionally and she'll go, you're overdoing yourself, you're not going to be as good as you want to be because of what you're doing right now. What was that

relationship like? Well, she understood the athlete's mindset. Her also, her one rule was look, if you go down, you get up if you can. Regardless of how bad that injury is, if you can get up, then get up. Like, don't sit on the field. There was only really one time

I can remember that I didn't get up. I got a concussion against Baltimore where I got knocked out and she understood that it was something a little bit more serious. But even when I broke my foot, I got up, hobbled to the sideline, even though it was super painful and got up. And so that was her one world. She's kind of a badass in that circumstance. Like it almost reminded me of the girl from any given Sunday.

Like, you're the goddamn quarterback, you know, the team and stuff like that. So she just, she pushed me to be the best, but she was also on me about my nutrition and this, that, and the other, and was always there. anytime I need her, even in the off season. When I go to a new team or something like that, she would quiz me the plays. So I'd give her the list of plays. I'd be like, look, I need to get quiz on these

because I need to be able to say this and regurgitate it in the huddle. And so she'd quiz me. So she was on board. She was down for whatever. D1 athlete wife. That's awesome. Where for me, my wife, great athlete,

but like she has like a family where I didn't. So I was like, I don't need to take care of myself. Like if I, if something happens to me, who cares? where she was like how your wife was instilling what she knew because she was in that life as well. My wife was doing that. It was like, hey, you now have a family, you moron. Like you need to take care of yourself because if not, you're going to be dead and you're going to leave us all here. So, yeah, here's the good women.

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I'm in Houston, man. I just got back yesterday, starting the off-season program. Cranging back up, so feeling great. How's the hamstring? Like, you still, you're able to run on it fully now? Yeah, I'm good now. 100%. Feeling great.

I can't wait for this year, man. I feel like it's a great year. Starting year five, new OC, you know, a great team, you know, so can't wait to get started. When there's a great energy right now, it's nice. When there's a new OC, like how much installation, happens preseason versus how much once you guys all get together, like early ball? Yeah, it's a lot. I feel like when the O.C. first comes, you know, he want to get the base foundation started.

You know, he want to get the run game, you know, the past game situation. So I feel like the first OTAs, man, is really just getting the foundation started, you know, the quick game, you know, the intermediate routes, the medium routes, you know, just getting stuff down and peck, you know, really found the rhythm of things, you know, and really see how things going to be ran, you know, once we transition from OTAs to camp. When the transition happens, do they ever keep some of the language so it's not, you know, a full installation? Or since he's there now, I mean, did he change all the language? No, yeah, I think now it's, I think now they meet in to see what we're going to keep in the house and what, you know, what he would want to run as well.

So I feel like now this is what we, you know, go through and see what fits us. what we're going to work used throughout the season. And so I feel like now is OTAs, we use that time to see, like, I would pretty much see, like, what plays and what, you know, type of style, type of offense we're going to be heading into the 2025, 2020-6 season. And so I feel like during camp, man, that's when you're really going in your bag and really, you know, bring out your best plays, you know,

because you're getting ready for the season. You know, I feel like now is, you know, you're trying to get the foundation started and, you know, get the main details down. Like last year, you went off. Like, no doubt. You went off. You stayed off until you got hurt a little bit, but you went off.

So when a new OC comes in, are you concerned at all? Or are you just like we're going to amplify what we did with the new guy? I feel like when I went, you know, a new coach come in, you know, I feel like we just got to, we build on what we did last year. You know, just, you know, putting me in positions, you know, that fits, you know, the best thing. things I do, you know, so, and just anybody, you know, me to pulling the wild outs, the running backs, you know, just putting guys in the right position for us to, you know, succeed, you know, be great, you know, make plays for the team, man. So, you know, I'm excited for this year, man.

I'm excited for, you know, the offense and, you know, the energy, you know, we're going to bring this year, man, I can't wait. Some of my friends that play pro basketball, they talk about when they're on, like the rim looks like it's 10 feet wide and, you know, they can't miss. Like when you're on. Ain't missed. Like, what's the difference with you? Does the ball look bigger?

Does it, like, softer? Do the players look slower? Yeah, my, man, everything. I think when I'm on, like, the ball, everything is moving slow motion. Like, everything, the ball's coming slow. Guys just look slower, yeah. It's just like action figures out there, you know,

just the bag drill. That's kind of what I feel like, you know, just rouse on there. You know, you're not seeing nobody. Everything is just moving. You know, you're blocking out the noise, man. You just in the moment, man. I feel like that's no better feeling.

Man, once you find that groove, You know how it is, and it's unstoppable for the stock. Yeah, that grew. It's nice. I love being that group. You ever self-scout yourself for tendencies to make sure that you're not being scouted for tendencies to make sure you're not doing things like on the line that they already know what you're about to do?

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I try to, you know, modify my game to keep it the same because I'm a bigger receiver, you know, so it's easier for me. You know, I'm six-four, so it's easier for me to, you can tell when it's time me to decal, stop, speed up, you know, it's easier indicators, you know. So I feel like for me, man, just that's one thing I self-scowage is, how can I find ways to make everything look the same? You know, my tempo changing, or they know when I come up the ball fast, it's going to be a deep route or I'm coming off slow. It might be a run play, you know. So I feel like right now I'm

at the point of my career where I need to make everything look the same. I feel like that's thing I've been chasing, you know, even when I'm tired, you know, fourth quarter, you know, you got to run a post route, you know, or you got to run an anchor. cut, how can you make everything look the same? You know, so the DBs, you know, can't cover. You know, they're smart too, you know, they great players. They get paid as well, you know, so they watch film, you know, they pros, you know, so they know the game, you know, so they know when it's the run play or pass play.

So I feel like for me, that's one step I got to take, you know, just making everything look the same, you know, keep my pay level low, being physical with a lot of scriments, you know, which I am, you know, but I feel like for me to just continue to work on those things. Yeah, you're physical, you're large. Do you like when a DB comes up to jam you? Is that fun? Like, let's go. Yeah, I love it.

That's fun of it. Football, man. I feel like that brings the energy, you know? That brings the competitive nature that I have. And I love competing, man, like, let's go. And all I go, when God come down to press, you know, he's trying to stop you from making plays, you know? And for me, it's the team trust me to go make a play, you know, whatever your number's called, you have to make a play, man. So I feel like for me, man, I love being impressed.

I love just competing, you know, because, hey, they're putting their all into that pressure down, you know, so, you know, you beat them off the line, you know, a lot, you know, keep running your reps and, you know, you can, you don't know when you take their pride a little bit. Speaking of getting your number called, if I'm correct, you were drafted in third round, what are these guys feeling right? What are they feeling right now as we're inching up? What were you feeling about this point as the draft was about to happen? Yeah, man, I was anxious, didn't know where to go. I didn't know where I was going to go. Didn't know what team, you know, believed, didn't me like me enough. You know, just coming from the senior bowl, man, you know, it was a lot of emotions, you know.

Pro day as well, you know, it's a lot of nerves because you're trained your whole life to get to this level where you, you know, where your guys train to go now, you know. So when you get to this level, man, it's the best of the best. You know, guys are great at this level, man. So around this time, man, it was a lot of emotions. And it was, man, it was hard to explain, man. anxious, nervous, you know, just, just wishing, you know, you never know if he's going to get pick or not. You know, it's different coming from high school to college where you get to pick,

where school you want to go to. And but now it's the complete opposite. You know, teams got to see if they like you, you know, I'm saying. So I feel like that was the big difference for me, feeling, you know, just coming into the drive, you know, so, man, I end up, you know, just being with my family around the time and I end up, you know, getting the draft house, being with my family, man, being with my loved ones. I feel like that. That really helped me out, you know.

And just talking to my mom, my parents, you know, just been telling me, you know, whatever team get me, man, just make sure you go and, you know, make your Martin have fun with it. You know, just thank God for it all, you know, and just have fun. You know, the same game you're playing your entire life, you know, is just at the highest level, you know, it's something you've been dreaming about your entire life and it's finally here. So taking a run with, man, you know, take advantage of your opportunities. What teams did you meet with and was the Texans one of those teams you thought might pop up and draft you? Actually, I was meeting with a lot of teams, man. I met with the Tennessee Titans a lot, Jacksonville, Jacksonville a couple times, man, New York, the Giants. Yeah, Houston, I ended up meeting with Houston, like, it was later, man, and the interview was like five minutes, you know.

They just asked me how I was doing, how I was feeling, you know, and it was good, you know. They liked my game, things like that. So it was short and sweet, man. It wasn't nothing too crazy. I feel like just around that time, I wasn't expecting, you know, the Houston, Houston Texans to pick us, man, pick me. You know, it was just, it's a blessing, you know, because around that time, you know, Jacksonville,

they was, you know, they was interviewing me a lot, you know, like every day, it's hard questions, you know, just things like that. So I kind of thought, you know, it's going to be Tennessee, Jacksonville. Jacksonville was pretty hard, too, with the interviews, you know, asking me a lot of questions, you know, asking about the family and stuff. So I really thought I was going to either Jacksonville and Tennessee,

around this time, I'm sure, but not. Texan is definitely surprising, man. You know, that was one team. I was not expecting. You know, they kept the short interview and ended up picking. I'm from Arkansas, so for me to go to school somewhere cold that would not have been preferred. Now, you're from Alabama.

How did you end up in Michigan? Because that feels like a whole different climate. Man, it's night and day. Man, I say Jim Harbaugh, man. Jim Harbaugh, he came down to the Big Ten, came down from the Big Ten, the SEC Country, man, and got me. And I was, I was blessed enough to be highly recruited. A lot of teams in the SEC, man, pretty much.

I had every team in SEC. And Michigan was my only Big Ten. And it was just something about Coach Harbaugh, man. He stood out. He was different from all the other coaches. Just his, you know, his way he just came about the game, man. You know, he cared for the players, you know, on and off the field for the families. You know, he was a real football guy, you know, and it stood out.

It was different from the rest of the coaches and the visits that went on. You know, so he came down. man, I went up there a couple times for official visits, man. And I love the culture, man. I think that was when they first went to Jordan. And so I just seen myself, one in Jordan's. I think it was the first Jordan team college football around that time, man. So it was dope, man.

I feel like just me going up there playing the Amazin Blues different, you know, coming from Alabama. You know, a lot of guys didn't do that. You know, a lot of guys normally stayed in the state. You could go to Alabama, Arbor, Georgia, you know, Florida. They're staying in the south, man. But I just wanted to do something different. I just wanted to go up to the north, you know, playing the Big Ten.

You know, just see what's different. See what's out there, you know. What about catching the ball in the cold, though? Like catching the football in the cold, you had to learn. Yeah, that's hard, right? It's hard, man, because your hands are numb. The football is hard as a brick. And it's coming fast.

You got no choice, but you put your hands up, catch it. It's terrible, man. I feel like that was my worst experience. Like that winter in Michigan was probably my worst. my freshman year, man. Like, I didn't, I didn't know how to dress for the cold. I had jackets. I was not doing it for the weather, man.

You need a coat. I didn't have no boots. I was going through it, man. My first winter in December was it was, it was real. They had a call mom. Like, yo, can you send me like a care package? I mean, show me what I need to go shop for her. I need to stay warm out here in the show care.

But, no, it was the best decision I ever made, though, man. Watching you last season, just watching the other wide receivers run the NFL, like, there are a lot of guys. there are a lot of like dudes, but like you were that dude. Like the whole season. Like you were that dude. And everybody started to realize it about about game three where it was like, okay, he has separated himself from everybody.

Did you do anything last year leading into the season that was different? Or is it just the normal maturation process? Yeah, yeah. I didn't do anything different. I feel like I built on last year, my second, coming off my third year and this year. I feel like I was just building, you know, just finding the things that was good. for me, my third of year, I did it again. You know, I emptied up, you know, just taking the game to another level, you know,

just trying to, you know, learn stuff, learn from different people. You know, I had, you know, Steph on Diz joins us this year, you know, just learning from him, you know, just learning, you know, how to become a great receiver. I'm watching stuff for years, you know, middle school, you know, throughout high school, you know, even now, I'm still watching, you know, guys like that, man, just leaders, you know, I lean on asking questions as a vets, man. Just find the ways to go about my game, man. So I feel like there's always ways to improve on your game and there's no sillant.

So I feel like for me, man, just strong for greatness and not gain complacent. And not getting comfortable, you know, just because you had a little, you know, success is it's a blessing, you know. But I feel like for me, you've got to continue to go, continue to remember, like, your goals. And, you know, you're being more percent, you know, just taking advantage of every opportunity. You know, that was what I was done. You just never know when the game could be done. you know and um i feel i just i realized that man just flip the switch and i'm still continuing

realizing that now you know just enjoying everything you know because they can be over tomorrow never know you know so i feel like now man just having fun to join the process and loving it you got three final questions and i'll talk about c j strow first i mean Ohio state so that's you know a few years ago maybe you guys wouldn't have gotten along so well but like what's he like The facility, what's he like on the practice field? Yeah, he was a leader, man. I feel like he was a born leader from day one since he came in, man, just his work ethic and his leadership, he was there, man.

He came in, not even looking like a rookie, man. He came in ready to lead, you know, because the first two years we wasn't winning. You know, the program, it was probably maybe winning like five games, two years. My first two years I was here, man, it was kind of, I rebuild year. It was kind of hard for me. But, you know, once we drafted CJ,

Will, man, and Henry, man, I feel like this entire team, that draft class was nice, bro, and I feel like we stepped it up. That's what we needed. We needed those guys, man, to come in and make a difference, and they did. And CJ, he's, every day he's in the building, man, is just, you can tell he's on a mission. You know, he leads the right way. He'd be there for you, man. And there's no better guy to go out there and play for it, man.

You know, he got your back. It's a great guy, man, and humble. He's the only. He's calm and collected. That's why I was calling. He's real calm. You know, when pressure's high, lights get bright. You know, the guy says the same, man. I feel like that's the type of guy you need as a quarterback. All right.

Final two questions. Did you keep any balls from this season? Any special moments where you kept the ball? Oh, yeah, for sure, man. I cut a lot of footballs, man. Got a thousand yards. I kept that. First touchdown reception.

I kept that. What else? my second touchdown I score I guess I think it was they got a call man the first one second I got a call back I was sick

first touchdown I gave it no it was my mom birthday so I had to I had to I kept that ball and gave it to her so it was a great

great one I was going to keep the Dallas ball that first play I came back after my injury and they ended up breaking like a 70 yard 69 touchdown

got called back that. That's it. So I was, you know, I still kept that ball because it comes to me, you know, coming back from, you know, just missing five games, you know, and that game against Dallas. And that's being the first play back, man. And, you know, and they gave me the ball the first play. And, you know, I took it to the house. I feel like that was a, it was a great feeling for me, you know, just coming off injury, you know, gut-blowing injury, hamstring, you know, and that being my first play back, man. you know, I had to keep that, you know. It kind of my books. My neck kind of nobody else, but, you know, that's something to remember, you know.

But I always keep a lot of my footballs because, you know, it's hard to score and it's lead, man. So, like when you look back 10 years from now, man, you can tear your kids or, you know, grandkids, you know, this what I was doing back in the day. Final question? The easy one. Like, what's the expectation? What's the ceiling for this year? You know, what's a goal?

For sure, man. I feel like the ceiling is everybody's telling. We got to get to that Super Bowl. We know it's still in. But I feel like our goal, man, is just continue to get better, continue to not be the same every week, you know, improve, you know. And it seems to be us. I feel like when we out there having fun, we play our best ball, not thinking, you know.

And I feel like for us, that's going to be our challenge, man. We're out there having fun, you know, and being us, man, being us and not thinking too much. I feel that's when we have the most fun and winning games, man. The potential of this ceiling this team this year, man, I feel like it's great, you know, and I can feel it right now in the building. Just, you know, for the second week, workout, you know, flowing the mindset, you know, from the coaches to the players, you know, everybody, staff, you know, to everybody, man.

I feel like the energy is there. I feel like the mission is, everybody knows what the mission is. And we don't want to have that feeling we had last year, you know, getting to the same spot we did twice, two years back to back and not proceeding. You know, so we know what we got to do. We know what it takes to go to the next level and go to the next game, you know? so I feel like for us, man. It's a great feeling.

It's a great energy, and I can't wait for everybody to get back. Nico, I appreciate you. You're fun to watch, man. It's awesome. Awesome to see you last year just kill it. Yeah, rooting for you guys. So thanks for the time, Nico. Sure, man.

No problem. Thank you so much, buddy. Have it all right. See, buddy. The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Rodriguez after night one on Thursday.

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real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Matt, who do you think has the craziest fan base? Oh, I mean, the bills have to be up there with the Bills Mafia. There's no doubt about that. Philly, Philly and the Bills, I'd probably say those two, maybe the Las Vegas Raiders with the black hole and everything. Seattle Seahawks are a wild place to play. That's a good one.

Yeah. I mean, because they've got, they retired the number 12 because of the 12th man. That's their big deal up there. And I think that they have to pump artificial noise in that stadium. It's wild. The 12th man is a good one,

which I don't think I would have gone there. I'm glad you did. Did you ever play in Seattle? Oh, yeah, multiple times. And it is loud as can be. and it's always dreary, a little bit damp, you know, and when they had the Legion of Boom, that place was rocking. Marchand Lynch, that whole group, I mean, they were good football team.

How is it, and I guess I should say where is it, when it is so loud, like how, is there a difference in deafening and really loud and just kind of loud? And does it affect play? It does, because communication, when it is so loud, particularly when you get to some of these end zones, like in Seattle, even New Orleans, when they were at their height, they were so loud, particularly in the end zones, that communication, because so much is going on,

particularly if you're a quarterback in an offensive unit that you identify the linebacker to set protections and set the front, that everybody's got to be communicating. And you're not using cadence. You're all on silent count, because if you use cadence, everybody's going to jump off sides and you see it often if they try to use cadence and it's too loud, there's just some guy that gets a little bit jumping,

so you're waiting for that ball to move. So under Sender, I literally would slap the center's butt. He bob his head and snap the ball, and that was the indicator. And then the wide receivers on the outside, all they're looking at is looking in to see the ball move. They don't even concentrate on the slap or anything like that. And then when you're in the gun, you're using a foot. So you can go silent one, silent two, silent three in some cases. And everybody's got to be on it.

But it definitely changes your communication because when you're up at the line of scrimmage, you want to change protection. that's when you see like the old school clips of Peyton Manning running up and down the line communicating to everybody being very demonstrative well that's because communication is key to getting it done when you say you use the foot and shotgun what do you mean so when you're standing back there the indicator you either have the guard or the center sometimes will look through his legs and you're literally lifting your leg up one leg and that's silent one silent two would be two lifts so you go like this he goes down bob's his head comes up then he looks

back down, bobs it again, or you have a guard tap him. And so that's how you would start the cadence. You would use no cadence whatsoever. It was all silent count. So you're telling me there are instances where the guard is watching so he can tell the center what the silent count is. Yes, because I think it's a better method, to be honest with you, because the center controls the front.

He's setting stuff after I will identify, hey, the middle linebackers here. So I said it originally, but he's talking to the guards continuously and it's getting passed down like, hey, watch this guy coming down here or the game or whatever it might be. So as the center keeps his eyes on the defense, the guard looks back. And all he does is he taps the center on the side and now the center knows it's time to go. And so they're both able to get their eyes on the defense for the most part. I do feel like I learned something. Like I feel like I'm mildly knowledgeable, but I didn't know because I've seen the leg lifts

and knew that one or two, but I never knew there were other eyes. It's like in your neighborhood, the neighborhood watch where people are out at night. Like, we have the neighborhood. The guard is the freaking neighborhood watch for the center and the quarterback. Yeah, you'll see these guys look back like this and you'll see them just kind of put their hand out.

Sometimes they'll even put it out in front of their face like this. So that's the indicator that we got to get going. Another one of the teams I put up for fan bases is the Packers, because one, you've got to be crazy to go to games that cold. Are they loud? They're relatively loud. I mean, the coolest part about it is a historic, like value of that place and so much history you're walking down all the locker rooms green but

then the Lambo leap and everything that they have they're loud but i wouldn't say they're as loud as Seattle or even a Kansas city when Kansas City's rocking that fan base will get after you um there there's some really loud stadiums there's no doubt about that but i would say that they're not as loud as like I said Seattle, Kansas City. Pittsburgh gets loud too with the terrible towels. I mean, and the other part about Pittsburgh, they travel. We've had games in like Kansas City before where there's more than half the stadium dressed up in Steelers outfits. I'm like, I thought this was a home game. What is going on right now? People liked us last week. Let's do another edition of what were they like where I just pick somebody that I think you knew and you

tell me what they were like. And this week I pick, tell me about Doug Flutie. Doug Flutty. Dude, this guy was a legend. When I showed up to New England, he's 41 years old, and he's not big in stature. I mean, he's probably, 5'10 might be generous, 5'9, but he had an absolute cannon for an arm. And I'll never forget, I come in the first day, I'm coming in as a rookie, I'm walking up, and he pulls up in like an old school Transam with an eagle on the front. He lived in the 1980s, dude.

Like he had the hair flow And he was like a little kid I mean he loved loved every sport He'd play in pickup basketball He played in a hardball baseball league at 41 In the off season And he'd come in and he'd tell you all of his stats He was like a little kid

He'd tell you all of his stats How many innings he pitched People he stole base He'd go out to Thinway And before games He'd go down there constantly And just shagg balls for batting practice Like he was a legend

And I'll never forget the, it was the end of the year that year. We're playing Miami at home. And I got to play for three quarters. And the crowd was getting frustrated because they wanted to see Flutie. Like, it's Boston, Boston College. Like, he's a legend there. And so Flutty could do this thing called the drop kick. And it hadn't been done for God knows how long, you know, 30 years, whatever it was. And we go down and I throw my first touchdown pass of my career to Tim Dwight on a little return route he falls in. Well, Doug Flutie runs on the field and he's going to do this drop kick because Bill's a big historian. So he's like, can you do this in the game? And Doug's like,

yeah, I'll do it. So Doug lines up behind the center and a shotgun snap and everybody is going wild. And the defense doesn't know what to think because we're in a field goal formation with just Flutie back there. And he drops it, hits the ground, kicks it through the uprights for a PAT, does the drop kick. So now it's like Super Bowl winning type stuff. The crowd is all. Now I come back out for the next series for the two-minute drill, and they're booing. They're so pissed off.

Doug Footy is not back in the game. I'm like, come on, guys. I mean, he went in for the drop kick. It was awesome, but can I just, could you maybe a little bit of support right here? No, no, they're going, Flutie, flutie. It was great.

But he was a great teammate. Funny as hell. I mean, I will say in meetings, he was one of those guys that's old school, right? He wants to block it up and throw it down. So we'd be going through the game plan sometimes. after Brady would get gun going through his favorites, they'd get the flutie, and they'd be like,

all right, so if you get in there or if something happens, what do you want me to start? He's like, look, just block it up and call goes, I'll make it work. And he was just that kind of dude. I was laughing my ass off though. He was a funny, funny dude. The 26 NFL draft is here,

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Listen to 40s and free agents on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, you're up. All right, Bear Grills. Tell me some good Bear Girls stories. So Bear Girls has the show, he has many shows, but he has Running Wild with Bear Girls, where he takes out celebrities

and takes them all over the world to places and basically sees if you can die. That's what I felt like anyway. And I got a call and says, hey, do you want to do running wild with Bear Grills on Nat Geo on Disney Plus? And I was like,

I don't think so. Like, I'm good. I'm good. I'm not for adventure. I had enough of that my whole life growing up. And they're like, no, no, no. I don't think you understand.

Like, he only really asks famous people and you're not famous. So that would be cool for you to do. That's how it's position. And I said, okay. And so I begrudgingly said, yeah, sure, thinking we would go to like New Orleans or Las Vegas into the, a dune or something. And they were like, all right, we're going to go to Norway. I've never been to Norway. Long trip. And it's like, you'll be there for two days. You're in the wilderness. It's cold. But you'll land and off you go.

And so I'm like, all right, cool. So I got on a flight. We fly to Norway. Let's like fly to Paris and then Amsterdam. and then a small town in Norway and you get off. It's beautiful, by the way, but you land and it's just right into the show. So as soon as I land, I throw my bags in a room and they're like, all right, let's go.

I haven't met bear or anything. And so I watched a couple episodes on the way, on the flight, just to kind of see what was going on. And I'd seen a couple, a few years prior, but it wasn't like I watched all the Bear Girls episodes. So a little bit had to reintroduce myself

to what was about to happen. And I didn't like what I was introduced to because I was like, I don't want to do this stuff. I hate high girls. And so we're in a foreign country, and they're like, just go and he'll join you. And all of a sudden, I see a helicopter flying over the top. And here's Bear, like, hanging off the side of it.

And he's like, all right. And the helicopter's still running. And he's like, clip on right here. And I'm like, what? He's like, clip on right here. Never, nothing, not met him anything. All I hear is this guy yelling at me. And I clip on, all of a sudden, the helicopters lifted us off.

Right? And we're like just hanging from the freaking hell. helicopter flying over nowhere. I'm like, oh my God, I hate heights. And it's literally a clip from me falling to my death hundreds of feet. So we finally land and it's freezing cold and it's raining the whole time. And my adrenaline is pumping, but I don't know why because I don't know what I'm about to do. And so we just start hiking. We have like 20 miles to hike that day to get to our end destination. And part of it is going through water. And again, it's probably 37 degrees and it's raining.

And so we go and it's wet. And I'm telling you, it's not like there are producers falling you around giving you like tootsie rolls or blankets. Like it's as legit as it possibly can be unless you like tap out. And so we're going and we're going through marsh and I like fall and I'm wet. My whole leg's wet. It's less than 40 degrees. Bears really nice.

But again, we're shooting a TV show and we're trying to get to our place before dark. And we come across this disgusting, rotted goat. And it's a floating on the water. And what we were looking for were like some birds or some plants because he was like, hey, we're going to try to find some birds to eat. Because then we'll cook them and eat them. Because he's, you know, he was on like special forces in like the UK.

And I'm like, great. This part, no problem with. Grew up in the woods in Arkansas, hunted him a whole life, whatever you need. So we're going through, but it's a rotted goat that's poking out of this cold water. And so I have to go and weighed. I don't have any extra socks. Wade to this goat. We drag it to the land.

Embarrass smart enough to know, well, if that side's rotted, the other side is going to be perfectly preserved because the water's cold. So we pull it, we flip it over. He's absolute right. It's perfectly preserved. And he's like, I'll skin this. Cameras are with this.

But the cameras aren't allowed to talk with this. We're not allowed to talk to the cameraman at all. And he's like, have you ever used a knife? and I'm like, oh, I can clean this animal. He didn't know that I'm like a hillbilly, like growing up. And he's like, you can, you can clear an animal? However, I don't have a good British accent. And so, like, I freaking clean the goat, like half the goat.

And, yeah, I was able to like to, and he was so shocked by that. And I think a little bit his outdoorsman respect of me went up a notch. I didn't deserve it, but it went up a notch. And we're like going off, it was miserable. I'm coming off like off. ropes. We're falling up 400 feet cliffs. And we get to the end of the night because you do a full 12 hours. You sleep out in the wilderness. And then you have another like six hours the next day to get to the final spot. And the best part of it was after I would like, I'd like kill myself all day it felt like

and have died multiple times. It was just bare and I sitting at a fire, no cameras. They don't put you in a hotel or anything. You literally are out there in a tent. We just sat around and talked for like four hours was like the greatest dude. Like so generous with the stories. He's like talking about good celebrities, difficult celebrities, was so like open and like vulnerable. Like I loved the dude.

I ended up doing the show the next season as well. But that whenever we were leaving the next day, he was like, you ready to get back on the helicopter. And there's a clip of me getting back on the helicopter. And the helicopter being funny and like doing like one of those, go straight and then jerk and it like swings you

and you see me just swing out of the helicopter dude the worst he was super kind I felt like I died many times it came back to live and did it again the next year I think there were only two people that done it twice me and Channing Tatum were very similar

especially with our shirts off but he couldn't have been kind and we keep in touch and Bear Girls is as nice as he seems on the show so that's my Bear Girl story Dude, I love that you did that show because I would watch that show religiously. Like, I wonder if that would be fun to do.

But it did look like you guys were out in the elements. I didn't know it was two full days, 20 miles of hiking, but they find random food. You do all that stuff. But it's definitely a mental grind without a doubt. Well, they also probably know what your weaknesses are and they challenge you on them. So I hated heights.

I made a mistake of saying that. I was like, yeah, I'm good, everything about heights. So it was all heights. It was all freaking heights. It was like, what can we find to throw him? him off of that will make him possibly cry. And so, yeah, if anyone's wondering, Bear Girls and Doug Flutie, A-plus. A-plus, A-plus individuals.

The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the free IHeart Radio app. Open the app, search NFL Daily, and listen now. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, Pro Days, trades. this is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money.

On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season.

We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite. team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We're going to draft our sports movie team. I will give you the category. There'll be five categories. You draft your position. The first is, of your sports movie team, your leader. Who do you draft to be the leader of your team?

The leader of my team. I'm going to go with Roy Hobbs from The Natural, a movie that you've never seen. But I know it. I've seen clips. I've seen clips. He hits into the lights. I thought that was cool.

I mean, not only is he a great baseball player, but he fought through adversity. Well, I don't know the adversity. Huh? I don't know. What's the adversity? Oh, he got shot. Really?

Yeah. A lady on a train that had, like, full mental issues, wanted to, want to be his girlfriend, but I have no idea what happened. But really set back his career, but he fought back from that adversity,

made it all the way up to whatever he was, and was a great teammate, great player, great leader, just all around good human being. Roy Hobbs. I'm going Shane Falco from the replacements. I do love that. That's a great call.

The ultimate underdog quarterback. Nobody believed in Shane Falco. No. Shane Falco freaking played, though. And he balled. He bawled hard. Bald hard. Good ones. All right. Next up, you're athletic freak.

Okay. I mean, I was thinking about this, and I always remember watching Blue Chips growing up. And then I remember Shaq was the actor in Blue Chips, was the guy that they paid for her to come in, be part of the program, take him to a national championship. You know the name. Yeah, what, Booby? What's the shit? No, no, no, no. Neon. Neon. He was neon. Neon. Neon. Yeah, neon. Neon. Yeah, neon. like boudoir oh boudoir yeah boudoir yeah went down to the gym and they're in that sweaty gym and he's just dunking the ball over people blue chips was so legit it was a great movie like a really good inside look penny was in it too yeah fantastic penny hardway it was baller too that's a they get no freakier in a great way than shack yeah man i had two a pluses on this one i don't want

to be the guy that picks too no please do force gump That's a solid pick right there. University of Alabama, like he just kept gone. Running kickoffs back. Gone. Marathons. Yes, like he just kept running. Yes.

Ping pong. Yes. I mean. Did the 11th. Forrest Gung. Wow. You get no freakier athletically. No.

Because he's like weird too. And he doesn't even know he's doing it. The other one that was right. Because I felt real good about Forrest Gond. Be honest. Hey, I'll say that's all time right there. Bobby Bouchet was number two. Bobby Bouchet.

I thought he'd be a wild card for you. Because he hits like Ray Lewis on steroids. Like Bobby Boucher took heads off. Yes, he did. But Forrest Gump has got to be my free. That's a great call. All right. Next up in the draft,

you're a wild card for any reason whatsoever. Which athlete would you have on your team? Oh, happy Gilmore. Great one. Happy Gilmore. Are you kidding me? That's a good one. Well, I'm going air, bud.

It's a freaking dog, dude. I got a freaking dog who can play ball. Like nobody else got a dog You know what the funniest part about this When you sent this My wife and I had a conversation I said this is gonna be a great conversation And she's like

What about Air Bud? I was like I can't go with the dog Like honey I go with the dog And I love it Literally had that conversation Air Bud's legit

Like I'm just imagine you're talking about the dog They can play ball They'd be so distracted by the dog They can't focus Yeah and not only did that dog I played basketball, I played volleyball and one. Imagine everybody in the red zone. Oh, just go up and get it.

Breaking ankles or biting ankles. Biting ankles. That's a good one. All right. Coach, who's your coach? Oh, man. I went with, oh, Jackie Moon, Will Farrell. He's semi-pro.

He's the owner. He also was a player. He's pre-game announcer, and he fought a bearer. I mean, does it get any better than Jackie Moon? It does not. Except, I'm going to give you a close. Not better, but close. Okay.

Mickey from Rocky? Because you can need to get up. Get up. Get up. Oh, miss it. Get up, Bones. Get up. That voice.

I feel like, Mickey's the guy that's, because I'm probably going to be like, shaking. He's hurting. And he's like, get up, Airbud. Get up, Airbud. Airbud would knock Rock. He's the only dog that could knock Rocky out. And finally, like your enforcer, you're tough guy.

Who would you draft there? I went with Jean-Claude Van Dam from Bloodsport. I mean, let's be honest. I know he's not like your typical team tough guy, but I mean, the guy went for like battle to the death, wherever the hell they were in Bloodsport and fought that one guy who was very intimidating. And he fought blind.

I mean, pretty hardcore. That's true, he did fight blind. Remember that? Yes. He's like, close his eyes. So underappreciated. Could just feel the wind in his air and just block. My enforcer did.

I didn't love them, but would definitely accept him on my team. Yvonne Drago from Rocky 4. That's great. I want him roided up. Oh, 100%. I want every way he cheated against America to be cheating for America with me and AirBud. H-E-H, steroids, and phenomines. I want the whole package.

All of it. Yeah. And I want the girl that traveled with him, the blonde that might have been. With the short hair cut. I think she was more intense than he was. One of my honorable mentions for the coach was, let's see if you know who this is. Gordon Bombay, familiar?

Gordon Bombay. Give it to me. Mighty Ducks. Oh, that was a great call. My runner-up for coach was Ted Lassau. Great call. Didn't even get on my list. Yeah.

And I missed, that is a great one. I mean, inspiring, fun to play for. Brings you a little cookie treat, cake treats. Yeah, and my other one for runner-up of leader was Roy. from Ted Lassow. You know the... Yeah, Roy's good. Hardcore.

My enforcer backup was another Rocky Clubber Lang, which was Mr. T. Oh, Mr. T. That was great. Did you know Mr. T? You know all the chains he wore? Mm-hmm. Did you know why he wore that initially

was because he worked a bouncer at a club and people would just leave stuff at the bar? And he just collected the chains. So he would just collect him and wear him on his neck. And that's where his look came from. Hey, any way you can come up, bro. I'm down with that. All right.

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