The Bobby Bones Show - Mike D Gives Something in NYC 5/5 & Morgan’s Deep in Her Long COVID Detox

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Mike D talks all about his trip to New York City and why it’s his favorite city. He gives something he saw in the city his first ever 5/5. Morgan is a week into her long COVID detox and she&rsqu...o;s feeling proud of all the things she’s implemented in her life. And of course, did Mike D finally join a run club or make a friend?? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 The Best Bits of the Week. Morgan. Part one. Behind the scenes with a member of the show. It's another Best Bits weekend, and Mike D joins me. What's up, Mike D? Hey, what's going on? Thanks for being here.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We got all kinds of things to talk about. But the first being that when you were on vacation, you all went to New York City. Yeah. I want to hear all about it. I think it's my favorite city in the whole world, because it is the city. Like, you can love cities and go visit other cities, but New York City is like the mecca. It's the city of cities. Okay, and why is it to you, though, the city of cities?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Because I feel like everybody has a different reason for that. For me, as a kid, New York City seemed like it didn't exist. It only existed in movies. And I never envisioned myself even going to New York City. And the first time I ever went was because of this job in, like, 2017, maybe. I was probably 26 years old. And I was like, I got to go see Times Square. And I remember walking into Times Square and having this euphoric feeling of like,
Starting point is 00:03:59 like I've made it even though I haven't made it it just felt in that moment like even though I was surrounded by advertisements which is really all time square is isn't that funny yeah it just felt like like going to an amusement park as a kid it was like all those feelings of whenever I'm in New York City I feel like I'm important and I feel like everybody there has a purpose no matter if they're working at a bodega they're working at working in Broadway everybody there feels like they have a purpose and I feel like they have a purpose and I'm a purpose everything feels meaningful, so I just love going there. That's a really good point. Even you just saying that, I'm like, you know, no, I feel like I kind of should go live in New York City for a moment just to have my moment. And you guys saw Wicked on Broadway. Yeah, I'd never been to Broadway before, never seen any kind of musical at that level, and it completely changed me. Because I love the movie, and I think when it comes to what I like about movies are ones that use practical effects because I think it looks better and ages better. and this was almost taking that to a whole other extreme because everything that you see is somebody operating it, it's a real life prob, there's no special effects, it all happens in that moment, all the actors have to be perfectly on pitch, they have to nail their lines.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's just crazy to see something so well orchestrated, also be so just like perfectly on every mark, because they can't make mistakes. I forget that I'm watching real life people because it feels so precise. It feels like I'm still watching the movie, but they're actually there doing it live. Are you about to become theater mic instead of movie mic? That would be hard for me. It's also like I feel like I watched the best one. Like I started with the best one. So then it's like, there's still Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah. There are still, there's some I want to see. It's just. You did start with the mecca. Yeah, I started with like the best one. So I feel like it's going to, not that there could be better ones, but I feel like my expectations now are really high. Yeah. But I do want to see more now that I've experienced it because much like movies, like you're not going to forget that experience.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Okay. So what would be your rating of Wicked the Musical? I would get, well, I've only seen one. It's okay. But it's the best one I've seen. That experience. There's nothing I would change about the experience. The theater we saw it in was like a bigger theater with comfy sun.
Starting point is 00:06:25 seats, so I was worried about that because some of them are like older theaters and you're in like really small seats next to somebody. But it was comfortable. The performance was amazing. Now that I know what happens in the second part, it's kind of like it spoiled the second movie for me. That's why I didn't want to watch it initially. I was like, ah, people have been seeing this play for a very long time. Like, you're just going to have that spoiled. But it's no different than somebody reading a book and watching a movie. Yeah, that's what I compared it to you. I was like, yeah, if you read the book going into a movie now, I kind of I kind of know what to expect, but it does have me more excited to see part two. I think I got to give it a five and a five more experience because there's a moment when it's in the first movie whenever Cynthia Rebo sings that big line that everybody was doing.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Like I felt that in my gut seeing that live. Like I got oddly emotional for no reason. And it was just, it was just singing. Yeah, very much so. I can't believe you gave it a five out of five. Have you ever given anything a five out of five? No, but I feel like that's something I'm going to remember forever. And since it does have already the historic value of it's been around for a long time, it's well renowned, there's a movie about it.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I think that's as high as you can get. All right. Well, there you have it. Five out of five goes to break in the musical. What else did you guys do while you were in New York? See, we kind of figured out that we like vacations where we kind of don't have a plan but do have a plan and are just moving the entire time. because our last vacation it was a lot of downtime and chill time, which I think we needed at that time of just to break away,
Starting point is 00:07:59 not think about things. But I ended up thinking about things. Like I ended up because when you're hanging out by a pool, you're still on your phone. You're still kind of connected with social media. So what we like about New York is we are doing things the entire time, pretty much walking. Like we put in so many steps walking.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And I think that allowed me to disconnect more than it would going to like a beach or going to somewhere where you're supposed to quote unquote relax. Like that is more relaxing to me. And I think it's because I do have like an overactive brain where I'm just constantly going. You have to do other things to distract you from the original things. It's kind of like having, like you have idle hands. You have to have a fidget spinner. So you have some kind of control over your body.
Starting point is 00:08:40 So I think that was kind of the in between for me because it wasn't a relaxing vacation, which I think you can probably attest to that. Like when you go do a bunch of stuff and go to a bunch of places, it's not relaxing in the sense of like you come back well rested, but you do so much that it feels worth it. Yeah, I come back recharge from those because I have like a nuisance of adventure is really where the recharging for me happens. Like there are people who go to a beach and like, oh man, well, I just need all that relaxing.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I'm like, no, I need you to like reinvigorate me because right now I feel like there's no purpose to my life. And when I go on an adventure, like you go in and walking around New York City, I feel like I get like that click again to be like, okay, this is what makes life worth living kind of thing. Not saying that it's like, you know, life isn't living the other times. But it's very much like this click where I'm like, okay, this is what makes it all worth it. This is what I try and do and spend my time for. Yeah, it's like if I didn't have to work a job and earn money and keep a home, like this is what I would be doing. Like this would be all the fun things because you forget about all that.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You're like, oh, I'm just going. I'm like to figure out what I'm going to eat, where I'm going to get. coffee, what the next meal is going to be, what the next plan is going to be, and then you don't think about normal stuff like paying bills and mowing your lawn. Gosh, that's why I also always think about Europeans, because whenever I've been over there, they always just are so relaxed and they don't really worry about the paycheck to paycheck. You know, they just get to live their life like that all the time. And I'm like, dang, what's that like?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Speaking of Europeans, they have it down with the transportation because, like, in New York, we took the train. And it's just so much easier. it's so much faster because we took like an Uber from the airport to our hotel until like an hour. About the same distance in a train, it took like 12 minutes. I know. I wish we had subway stations and subways all over the country. Like ever since I've ever, I wrote them in New York.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Heck, I even rode a train from Boston to New York City. And I was like, that was cool. I could go to another city on a train. Or when we were in Paris, when we were in Barcelona, we were always doing everything by. subway, and I'm so jealous that they get to commute that way. It's awesome because you get in, you don't think about it, then you just end up, I mean, and sometimes it takes a little bit longer than it would if you drive, but it's just so much easier.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh yeah, and you don't have to worry about parking. You just get a pass and you're always on it. You can go anywhere and anywhere that you'd ever want to go because you have access to it. I wish, yeah, I wish I did that more in other places. What other places in the U.S. have a subway system? New York is the only one I can think of. I know they just built like a new train that's starting to operate between some cities that haven't had one. Like California just got one that goes to LAX for the first time ever.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And everybody's like, welcome to 2010. Which is also crazy. L.A. is the other big city. And why doesn't L.A. have a subway system? I think Chicago has a train way. I don't know if I have a subway. Yeah, I've seen trains in Chicago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I have taken a train to a White Sox game. Okay. So I know there's some, but yeah. Isn't that wild? Yeah. I'm with you. And maybe it's because we don't live it every day. And the people who do are like, this is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I don't know why you do this. But every time I see a subway, I'm like, we're taking the subway. I'll figure it out. It's kind of confusing. The first time I was ever on a subway was in New York City. And I was very much like, how does this offer? Yeah, we had to ask a guy. Like, hey, how do we get to this straight?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Because it is confusing. They're all just name weird things. And you're like, oh, you got to go to this one and get to that one and then go here. Yeah, you have to be at the right entry point to get to where you want to go, which also didn't know. try doing that in a different language. Yeah. That was very interesting for us. I was just like following us on the map,
Starting point is 00:12:24 hoping we made it to our right destination. That's so fun. Okay, top three moments of your New York trip. So we went to, I'll put the two baseball games at number three. We went to a Yankees game, a Yankee Stadium, and a Mets game at City Field. Of those two, City Field was so much better.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Really? Like the Yankee Stadium was more iconic. Like walking up to it, felt like, oh, this is cool. But once you were actually in there, it's a little bit, like, underwhelming. Interesting. It felt very, like, corporate and, like, okay, you're, like, the best team in baseball
Starting point is 00:12:57 as far as, like, how historic you are. But the vibes in there just weren't right. Like, the fan base wasn't there. We didn't have that much fun at the Yankees game, even though the actual game we saw was better there. The vibe at City Field was just so much better. It was easier to get to. We just took a train, shoots you out right by the stadium.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You walk up, and there's just more of that. environment. I think it's because their fans are probably just a little bit more passionate. The overall just atmosphere there was better and the food was better. I found vegan nachos. You can't find that anywhere at a sporting event. They had all kinds of food, which apparently there's like some chef who operates all their like food business and you can find like anything there. That's cool. See, the food changes the game, especially when you have dietary restrictions, when you can find a place who really has thought of everything, it does put it above other places for that reason.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Because we got there like an hour before the game started just so we'd have time to eat. And sometimes I struggle to find stuff at a sporting event but there was so much to choose from. And it was really good. Where is city field at? What city? It's like I can't remember it now
Starting point is 00:14:06 but it's kind of out by the airport. Okay. LaGuardia? Yeah. It's out by that way. I forget the hands. I know they have multiple airports so I don't know if that's the right one. That's the only one like I can think of off the top of my head. But okay, well, that's cool. That's number three. That's three.
Starting point is 00:14:20 So we checked off two more baseball fields in our journey to go to all 30. So I think we've been to six now. Okay, six is still strong. At number two, I would have to say Midtown Comics, which is my favorite comic book store in the entire world, because you walk in there and it just feels like, man, this is where, like, all these superheroes live in my mind because they're all, like, based in New York City. You walk in, there's like a big Superman statue. it's a really historic place.
Starting point is 00:14:48 A lot of Marvel actors will go there for signings whenever their movies come out. Like Anthony Mackey was there earlier this year. So for me, I just like going in thinking like, man, somebody could show up and be here. That is true. But they have a bunch of cool new comics and they have like old, like historic comics
Starting point is 00:15:03 that are like $10,000, like the first appearance of certain characters. Did you buy an expensive comic while you're there? No. The one I wanted was like the first ever X-Men. And yeah, I think it was like $10,000. So I'm like, I'm going. good on that. That's brutal. Did you buy any at least? I got some new comics and then I just
Starting point is 00:15:21 kind of walked around. They have like, it's like a two-story place. So like downstairs is all comics and then upstairs is all collectibles. So that's my favorite place to go just because it's, it's cool. It's in New York City. And if ever I need a comic that I can't find here, I'll order it from their website just to know that it comes from them. Does your wife, Kelsey, have any interest in any of that stuff with you? She likes how much I like it. And she helps me pick out comics. She'll be like, oh, do you have this one? And I'll be like, no, I don't.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And I'll get that one. So she likes helping me look for things and tries to find things that she knows I like. And I think that part makes it fun. Oh, yeah, that's sweet. And like with the collectibles, too, she'll find things and be like, hey, look, look at this Spider-Man. That actually is cool. I like that. She knows your interest in what you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. So that helps. Speaking of, were you jealous about lunchboxing Spider-Man? The craziest thing is whenever I first saw them filming, like my head immediately went to, oh, they're filming in New York City. We're about to go to New York City. And then I realized it was in another country.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And then seeing his footage, like, that's all I was watching that week. Like, my feed was just all these Spider-Man angles. And to know that he was there. I know. And saw Tom Holland, or at least Tom Holland's brother stunt double in there. Like, that was crazy. That's how I felt, too. I mean, you have the deeper connection to Spider-Man,
Starting point is 00:16:43 which I did see you post one time. your Spider-Man tattoo. It's super cool. I was freaking out just for the Marvel aspect. To be near a major Marvel movie filming would have been insane. That's just, I mean, that's a historic thing to witness because just all the shots from that filming look amazing. And I want to know how, I can't wait to see how that fits into the story.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And now I know, like, Lunchbox was there witnessing that. I know. I knew both of us were geeking out of that footage. Like, I'm all people that you got to see it, really. So funny. Okay, and then number one spot? Number one was wicked. That was just the, out of all the days,
Starting point is 00:17:20 that was like the only event we had planned for that day, and I'm glad we did it that way, just because it all kind of led up to that moment. It was perfect. And I think out of everything we did on this trip, that will be the one thing I probably remember the most. Will you be going back for more musicals? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I made a list. Like, I want to go see the Book of Mormon, which is from the South Park guys. Yeah. And I want to go see something that's probably Hamilton. I feel like you have to see Hamilton. That's another like up there. But Book of Mormon is one I've heard of a lot too.
Starting point is 00:17:53 That's pretty funny. And then my wife is seeing Hamilton. And she's also seen not Jersey Boys, the Outsiders, which is based on the book. Oh, you could also go see Lion King? That one, yeah. I would like to see that. Moulin Rouge would be a good one. There's also the Harry Potter, the Cursed Child.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Oh my gosh, you could have seen. What's his name? The actor? Because he was... Was he on it? He plays... Dang it. My brain is not working right now in this moment.
Starting point is 00:18:25 What's the bad kid in Harry Potter? Draco Malfoy? Yes, that actor. He was in the Broadway musical and he was there. Tom Pelton? Yes, thank you. My brain was not going there. I had to get there.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It was not operating. He was there doing the musical. I think when you guys were there. Maybe. Yeah, I know that musical is like four hours plus, maybe. But it would be so cool. It would be cool. It would be cool.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It would be cool. Yeah, that would be awesome. But I don't know that he's doing it full time. I think he was just doing it as a special guest appearance for a couple months and then he was done. So I don't know. Maybe he'll go back. So those are all, yeah, those are all on my list. You got a lot now.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Now, not just baseball fields, but now, how many Broadway musicals can you guys see? Okay, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money. It's Financial Literacy Month, and the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future. This month, hear from top streamer Zoe Spencer and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre, as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up. If I'm outside with my parents and then seeing all these people come up to me for pictures, it's like, what?
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Starting point is 00:24:00 O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. Anything else to know of your vacation before we start talking about some other stuff. I just love New York. I came back exhausted. Like I was physically exhausted because while we were there, it never really hit me. I just, like I went for a couple runs in Central Park, which I also love.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Because every time you go to Central Park to run, it feels like you're running a marathon. Because you see so many people there who look like freaking athletes. Like, they're dudes in groups with like the short, short, short, runner shorts that you're like, dude, I know that guy is logging like 60 to 70 miles. a week. And there's just that atmosphere of even though it's not an official race, it feels like
Starting point is 00:24:49 it. And it's cool to see that many people doing things outdoors in a city where there is no outdoors. Like it literally goes from all city. And then there's this giant park and then all these people like bike riding with their dogs. It's just, it feels so alive. And like I don't even, like, those runs don't even register with me as far as like, I don't even get tired because I'm just taking it in the entire time. You have a lot of things to look at. Yeah, it's crazy. Keeps your mind active. You know, it's funny when I was, you were talking about how many steps you guys walked.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I was looking at my watch after we were in Universal and Disney. We walked 47 miles in four days. That's crazy. That's how much like we walked. Did you ever, do you ever look at your, after you're like, no, I know I had a long day? I don't look at the mile equivalent, but I know we were hitting like 45,000 miles. I mean, 45,000 steps, step, 45,000 miles, no. You know, superhuman, you're Spider-Man now.
Starting point is 00:25:46 That's crazy. Isn't that wild that in a normal day, that's what people normally do in places like that? But then we're like here and I barely hit like 2000 steps. Yeah, it's hard to end those 10K here. Speaking of running and run club, do you know what I'm going to ask you? Did you join a rub club? Have you made rub club? That's a different club.
Starting point is 00:26:07 We don't want to join that one. Have you joined a run club or have you made a new friend? anything update in that space? No, I've been lurking in the shadows still of the run group. I can't even say run group. Now you want to say rub club. Of the run group, I would have been looking to join, but no, I have not. Why are you still lurking in the shadows?
Starting point is 00:26:28 I don't know. You got to give me something more than I don't know. The club that I look at that I, they're called like, we're not really runners. And I feel like I'd feel the best in that one because it's people who just, like, I don't even consider myself a runner. I know runners. Like runners who are like really good and fast and they're, they probably did track in high school and like are more competitive at it.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I never really feel like I'm a runner just because I don't feel like I have that same mindset. Like I'm not that fast, but I identify more with the people who do it more as like a recreational thing and more for like a mental health thing. I get back. That's kind of where I'm at now. Like I don't do it to be the fastest or the best or to compete even. though I do get quietly competitive with people who don't realize I'm competing with them on the trail. That's a different competitive aspect.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, but the run club I look at that they're called like, we're not really runners because they're like, hey, we just do this for fun. We're not competitive here. Some people walk. Some people run slower. And the thing that keeps me from going, which is probably the thing I need to push myself on, is like before and after they start, they have like one-on-ones where you just like talk to somebody. And I'm like, I can't do that. Mike, that's how you make a friend. I know, but they literally, like, they all get in lines and then you're standing across from somebody.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And I guess, I don't know, you do some exercise or something. Yeah, at least that takes out the awkwardness of, like, forcing a conversation. There you just are like, okay, this is what they do. And you're staying there, hey, how's it going? I think that's less awkward than you having to force a one-on-one with somebody. Yeah, but that just, that sounds like torture to me because I'm so bad at, like, like I don't think people realize how hard it is for me to speak to someone I don't know and to not be inside my head and to form like small talk like like small talk I cannot do
Starting point is 00:28:22 because I am so comfortable with not saying anything that it makes other people very uncomfortable because I could say two things and be like all right I'm good like I don't need to move this conversation along I don't need to respond to anything it's hard for me to follow up in normal like interactions with people. Mm-hmm. I guess I'm in that sense very matter of fact and like that's it. All right, cool. I'm out here.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And even I hate myself for it. Like, I'll run into people here in this building in like the kitchen. And like I try to be friendly and I got nothing here, man. I don't think you should hate yourself for it. I do think you have people who are more skilled at just randomly talking to strangers. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. but I do think in order for you to make the friend that you would like to make, you are going to have to push yourself out of that comfort zone.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, I know I need to do it. You could just say to that friend be like, listen, I really hate small talk, but I'm trying to make some friends and I'm trying to do bad. And maybe that's going to break an iceberry. Maybe the other person is going to be like, you know what? Me too. And you guys can start talking about something else, but you'll never know unless you try that.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah. And you could do this one time, Mike, and you could hate it and be like, I'm never going back. And you know what? But at least you did it. it's true you know what's the worst that what's the worst thing that could happen of you going to one of these what's the worst thing that could happen in my head i go i get paired up with somebody i have
Starting point is 00:29:52 nothing i mean i guess i have one thing in common with them which is the easy part but that i'd kind of be like a dud okay but how are you ever going to work on those skills unless you're a dud at one point that's true i guess i've also just gotten so comfortable and like not interacting with people that I'm like, do I still need it at this point? Yes, you do. Every person not only needs friendship, but they deserve friendship. You deserve to have people in your life that are not work-related or your wife. That is a natural human need.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And yes, you do need it. Because especially as you get older, what's really interesting as like talking, especially to a lot of the seniors, you lose a lot of friends over. time. And one thing that people crave the most is connection. And as you get older and life happens and you lose, maybe you lose your partner, maybe you lose your kids, any number of things that could happen. And God forbid it ever does. You never want it to. But you need to have multiple different community connections so that you don't ever have to feel that moment of loneliness. You always feel like you have somebody or something. And the only way to do that is creating them. So yes,
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yes, you need them. It's a necessity for every human being. And you also because you just deserve to have friendship because you're a great guy, Mike. Like you deserve to have friends. The only thing stopping you from having friends is you. It's true. So yes, you need it. And I think you can do it. I think you just have to one day go and not think twice about it and just say, you know what? The worst that happens is I'm a dud. And that's okay. I can live with that. Can you live with that? I feel like you can. could. I mean, I already kind of live with it, so maybe. Yeah, you'd be like, okay, well, I didn't do that great there, but maybe it might spark you because of how determined you are and you're a hard worker. I feel like you'd be like, okay, how can I do better next time? I feel like that spark will be lit under you if that happens, but I don't think that's what it's going to happen. I really don't, especially because most of the people that do go to those things are trying to make friends. So you're going to try and create a conversation. You're going to try and pull out all the
Starting point is 00:32:08 stops that you pull. This is what happens at those kind of events. I've been to them. Yeah, I'm be like, what kind of running shoes do you have? That's fine. Be like, those are cool.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Where'd you get those? And it might like spark a conversation about a collection of shoes. You'd be like, I have a special edition, Spider-Man. And then you guys start talking about Spider-Man. Maybe you find somebody else who loves Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I'm going to the re-release of Spider-Man, too. That's my like, man, could I find a friend here? You could, but you have to talk to them. You can always find a friend in any sort of. scenario but you have to be willing to talk to them that's something that every also mind you most people are afraid of that that's not just a you thing yeah because for me i mean it's not like a recent development this has been me my entire life that like that is like the one thing i envy of people of like being
Starting point is 00:32:55 able to go into a situation where they don't know anybody like go to a party and like have like an instant connection with people to where like hey you guys want to hang out tomorrow like i've never had that and And I was like, dang, I envy those people. I have people in my life who are like that, probably more so family. But like Eddie is somebody who could just go to a party where he knows nobody and make friends with three people. But you could be. You have the choice to do that. And also, most people don't have instant connections, I will tell you.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Like, most people will say they're going to hang out the next day. They never do. That happens a lot. So the instant connection thing is kind of, it's very rare. That part is very rare. But you could easily go and make a new friend that if you're intentional, you could see again. But it's all about the intention. And most people will go, especially, I can only say this about Eddie because I can say it about myself.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'm the same way. Like I'll go and meet people, but like, yeah, yeah, we should get together. You just say it because it just feels right. It feels natural. And not of like any ill will. I'd love to see them again. I just am I probably going to put the effort to seeing a stranger again? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:34:06 But every so often, there's that one moment where it clicks, you're like, yes, I'm going to make the point to see this person again. And that might happen for you. Do you see why dating was so hard for me? Yes, but you also did it. Do you think about that? Like, that's how I think about how I was more ambitious in my, in my mid-20s. And like when I really, because I didn't really even start dating until I was, I mean, I last wait probably when I was 25. That's when I really started.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I never dated before that. I was just more ambitious than to like, I'm only going to get better at this if I go on more dates. But up until I met my wife, like, I had no second dates ever, ever. So this is telling you my track history of like this, that was also me practicing and trying hard and not forming connections with people. Okay. So it's like, I get it. This is a thing. I'm also like not coming from like, I know I don't, I haven't made any advancements lately to try to make friends.
Starting point is 00:35:05 but I'm also using my data when I was dating how hard it was just to go on a second date with somebody. Like that is, I'm applying that information to what I would do now. And I've only gotten weirder and more isolated. Okay. How about we reframe this because you're missing a key part of that information. Because you did put yourself out to date, you met your wife. You would not be married today with an amazing wife if you didn't decide to put yourself out there. Okay. Key information that you're leaving out of the equation when you're thinking about all these like non second dates. You had a second date that turned into your wife. Also, you're trying to convince yourself that like the worst thing is going to happen. And you're more into who you are than you've ever been. So when you say weirder and you have all these other things, you're just more who you always wanted to be. And that means you're more confident. You're more secure about who you are. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:36:04 in that. You know who you are. My wife says since I've gotten my new tooth that I've gotten a little too confident. Confidence is good. Errigance is bad. I don't know the situation here, but confidence is good. But you're now more confident than ever. And that means you're going to be easier to make friends because you know who you are. And you know what you're looking for in a friend. I think you've only put the bad data into this conversation with yourself. It's true. I'm a man of data, though. Okay, well, there's other data that you're leaving out.
Starting point is 00:36:38 That's good data. So I'm trying to help you remember there's multiple data. I get you because I love data too. I love looking at things and be like, well, this is the information that I've received. This is what I've experienced. But even I had to do that after a crap done of bad relationships. Heck, the fact that I could believe that there was even another good guy out there was like, mm, didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Good point. But I still kept trying, you know, because like, okay, well, there's a little bit of data, that proves otherwise. And I really had to hang on to that good data to be like this little sliver of hope to be like, no, this is what makes it worth it. Just like we were talking about with going to cities, this is what makes it worth it. Just saying. The good data.
Starting point is 00:37:21 The good data. You got to bring in the good data to start one. And you got to like hold on to it with a vengeance that like that good data is what's worth it. I think you can do this, Mike. I have no doubt that you can. Yeah. I mean, obviously I have. my doubt, but I think I can do it too.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I know. See, but you just, listen, my boyfriend does this to me every time when I go to work, he's like, you can do hard things. And I'm like, no, I really don't feel that way today. And he'll be like, yes, you can. This is going to be a good day. You got hard things, but it's going to be great. And you have to change. I have a lot of negative self-talk that I'm trying to rewrite the narrative on, which is something that you have to do too. You mean self-talk can be positive? Yes, it's actually supposed to be. And we're just, let me mess ourselves up a little bit. But, you know, so you got to reframe it in a different way.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And I think you'll be able to at least take the first step. And if you never do it again, fine. But at least you can say that you did it and you tried. How often in life do you look back and be like, I wish I did this? Yeah, a lot. Okay. Stop looking back on your life and wish you did it. This is our monthly, bi-monthly time where I encourage Mike to do this.
Starting point is 00:38:36 One of these times he's going to come back on and be like, I did it. And I'm going to hold out hope for that. Yeah, one day. See, I'm holding onto the sliver. This is what we do. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I feel like it was a little bit unbelievable until I really start making money.
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Starting point is 00:44:01 What's the first step in that? Well, my whole diet had to change. So no longer eating dairy. gluten-free was I was already kind of doing. So no dairy, no gluten. I'm not drinking any alcohol. This is going to go on for probably about two months. Oh, yeah, two months?
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah. Strong change happening here. And I'm still vegetarian. So basically vegan. So I was saying we're pretty close. I eat gluten, but all the other things I don't do. Yeah. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And then now in all of my waters, I have to put salt in my waters because I really need to make sure I'm hydrating my body. Just normal table salt or like? I put sea salt because it makes me feel like. You know, I don't know, like it's a little bit prettier. You know what I'm talking about? The little like flakies, these salts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah. That's why I put into it because it helps with hydration when your body's going through a lot of changes. I have to do a sauna mat once a day, so I have to lay in this mat and, like, sweat my whole body off for 15 minutes. I have to do red light therapy every day, which is like holding a red light, and I wear the funky, you know that you've probably seen them. You've probably never been in one, but a tanning bed where you had to wear the tanning goggles.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I have to wear like little goggles when I just. do my red light so I like sit there and I look like a little alien doing my red light. I have to do extended fast so once a week I can't eat for 24 to 36 hours. Once a week for two months? Yep. For now. Unless my body like I pick that day. I pick Thursdays. That's like my day because it tends to be my busiest for work. So I'm like well if I can keep myself busy most of that time you don't think about eating. Then I don't want to eat except now that like I'm intentionally doing a fast now all I want to do is eat. So it's a struggle. But it's supposed to be this thing where your body, after 24 hours, your body goes into atophagy, which your heels, your heels, I literally can't talk to that.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Your cells start to heal themselves. And if you're eating all the time and you never give it a break, your body never has a chance to like heal. And that's the hope. And I'm taking a bunch of supplements that are detox and a supplement to help get my smell back. There's all kinds of things. It's a lot to put in and take out of your body. Yeah, there's a lot happening. But it's like, and we prepared it. Like, I'm doing it with a woman named Kara Clark. She had been on my take this personally podcast. And she was like, I can help you.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Like, I know that you're, I can tell you're struggling. And like, I got you. And so I finally got to a point where I was like, I have to do this. Like, I didn't want to do vertigo again. Like, I hope in my life I'd never have to go through vertigo again. That would be amazing. Even when we were at like Disney and Universal, I kept being like, when's it going to happen? Going on all these rides.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Is the vertigo going to hit again? Because heck, you could get it folding. laundry, let alone on a freaking ride like that. And I want to be able to smell again. It's been really cool not having to smell bad things, but like I'd like to smell good things again. That would be cool. And my lung capacity sucks. I can't run. You know, I can't do a lot of things that I used to be able to do. My brain fog is horrible. It's like you're basically talking to Dory some days. I'm like, I have no idea what you said five minutes ago. And that never used to be me. So all of those things, I finally reached a point where I was like, I have to do this. And it's
Starting point is 00:47:07 a significant lifestyle change. Does you not being able to smell affect how you taste things? Do you taste things less? No, not less, but there will be random moments where something tastes like soap. Like everything's normal. And then I'll just be eating something. I'm like, this tastes like cleaning solution and I'll have like my boyfriend or somebody who's with me try it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And they'll be like, yeah, definitely doesn't taste like soap. That's normal. And I'm like, cool. So there's definitely things. And I can't pinpoint what ingredients. causes that because cilantro does, but that's always been the thing for my life. So I don't know if we just like really amplified that cilantro gene and made other things taste like soap.
Starting point is 00:47:47 So very few and far between, but it'll hit me randomly. So I can eat mostly normal. And I don't know if that's like my memory remembering foods that I've had. You know, I don't know. But I try new things and it doesn't do it. So it's weird. There's definitely like neurotransmitters in like my, you know how you have all the bunch of like little what are they in your um i told you my brain not working um you have a bunch
Starting point is 00:48:13 of like little um sensors in your nose i'm trying to think about they're called smell things smell things smells sensors receptors whatever all the things but it literally feels like they're dead like i can't feel anything in my nose it's like nothing exists like you could take off my nose and i probably wouldn't know wow so that would be cool to feel my nose again and just know that it exists and it's working operationally. So all of that. And, yeah. And also, like, you know, my animals are going through it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 So I literally have, like, I'm like, I don't exist to the world. I go to work and I go home. I have to do all my stuff. And I go to bed at, like, 8 p.m. I mean, that's a lot of stuff to do. Yeah. That's where I'm out in my life right now, Mike. It's like your entire body got out of alignment.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Literally. And it's just, like, been screwed up. Like, when you're trying to, like, wobble something back into. place. And the only way to reset it, one is like majorly a lot of nutrition, which is like the nutrition change. And then also just doing other things to assist your body to quicker like drain. Essentially the COVID that's still remaining in my body that's wreaking havoc on my whole system. That's where I'm at right now, Mike. When you get sick now, does it hit you worse than it did before? Yeah. And it happens more often. Like I never used to get sick. I would be
Starting point is 00:49:35 completely fine, but now it's like I always have allergies or I always have sniffles or I always have a cough. It's like I'm never fully getting better. You know when you get sick and you wake up one day you're like, oh, it's finally gone. I can finally feel this, this is everything's gone. Yeah. I don't ever get to feel that. So your bottom line
Starting point is 00:49:53 is kind of changed as far as like your threshold. Literally. And that. Like 100% Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. More like 60 probably. And I just was functioning and so just sluggish and everything just fell off. So it sucks though. Like yesterday we had a tailgate party at work and I used to be able to eat cookies and brownies and I had to leave.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I was like, I can't be in here because I don't have self-control quite yet. I'm still like working through. I also feel like I'm coming off of, you know, when you eat sugar so much and you come off of that, it's like your body doesn't know how to react. I feel like I'm kind of in this like I took something out of my body and it doesn't like it Kind of like an attic wood
Starting point is 00:50:38 Kind of reading themselves off of something Oh my gosh yeah I remember that when I stopped eating sugar Where it was it felt like my body was like craving it And like kind of lacking in that Because that was like all I was giving my body And it's like hey where's the where's the sugar We normally get?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah when you just like dead stop it It's like your body like uh And it's weird how your body adjust to it Because now I find things really sweet that aren't that sweet at all. Like I'll have some fruit. I'll like, man, that is so sweet, but it's probably bland to most people.
Starting point is 00:51:07 No, but you know what? So Kara had told me this. This was so interesting. She's like, when you reset your body nutrition-wise, like when you kind of take out all the additives and take out all the sugar and all these processed stuff, your body resets to what whole foods taste like
Starting point is 00:51:23 and you like whole foods. Because I was describing to her, like, I would try a whole-food meal sometimes. Most of the time, I was, really balanced with food. So I was still eating a lot of whole foods and I'd go out to eat on the weekends or something. But there would be times where I'd put together like a whole foods meal and I would literally like throw it back up because I was like, that tastes horrible. I don't like that. And she's like, your body is craving processed stuff because it's been taught like that's what
Starting point is 00:51:50 you're supposed to eat when in reality like that bland food is what is going to actually taste better when this is all over. I'm like, that's wild. Yeah. I mean, I think I am the opposite of the way was probably 10 years ago. Because like 10 years ago, like all I would eat was fast food. And my body would just crave it. I would eat it. And I'd feel better after that. Now I think it's kind of the complete opposite where like if I don't have a vegetable in
Starting point is 00:52:14 like a day or so, my body's like, hey, what's going on here? And I like, I don't even put fast food in my radar anymore. I don't really miss it. I also don't really miss sugar. Like I'd say the only thing I miss is like a greasy like cheeseburger. Like that's the only thing that ever sounds good to me. Like, how you were saying with, like, the cookies here, like, I never really crave sweets. For me, it'd be like, oh, man, if I went back to eating meat, I'd want, like, a cheeseburger.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I want, like, some chicken tenders and, like, a pizza. Do you ever think about, because obviously vegan has helped you in the journey that you've been on, but do you ever think about going back to eating meat? Because meat isn't the worst of things. Yeah, like, my wife really wants me to just so we can make more meals together where we have. I don't think I'd ever probably go, like, I was never big on red, meat except for like baghitas but i would think i would go back to like eating chicken and eggs which i i mean i ate a lot of and i liked so i think the deal i made with her is like whenever we have
Starting point is 00:53:12 kids like i'll definitely go back just because it's going to be hard to be a vegan and your kids want like chicken nuggets and to go out to places where it's like yeah i probably can't stick to veganism into being a parent but you your body doesn't have a like turn you just have done vegan because it's made you feel a lot better yeah I feel a lot better. Like, you were saying earlier, like, I don't get sick. Like, I rarely get sick. The only time I really get sick is, like, at the end of the year, and that's more of, like,
Starting point is 00:53:39 I done with this year, my body can shut down from all the stress type thing. Yeah. But I used to get sick a lot. Like, I would eat and I feel bad, and I wouldn't think, like, why do I feel bad? I was like, oh, well, it's because what I was putting in my body that I felt bad and my stomach hurt all the time. And I don't really have that anymore. And I don't know if it's just my diet or, like, the fact that I do.
Starting point is 00:54:00 stay active but like i'm like i don't really want to mess up with my balance here because i i just feel better like overall i just have energy and i see a lot of people who are my age like all the memes of like once you get 30 all your things start creaking you start like breaking down like i don't feel that right now and i'm like i'm not fighting it but i don't feel that and if it's attributed to my diet and like my lifestyle i don't want to really change it that's very much what she was saying too is like once you feel this way and once you feel how good you feel it will be harder for you to want to consume anything else because you're just going to want the things that make you feel good and that's crazy that like a reset like that can just make you go back after years
Starting point is 00:54:46 of just this wrong diet and all these wrong things it's crazy to me how much that's such a factor and stuff and i know that's also different because you know back in the 1980s and 90s I don't think they were having those same issues, whatever's different now, is obviously contributed to a lot of what's in our food and stuff. But it's crazy that our food is impacting us that much. I mean, yeah, when I even think about, like, other things about, like, my physical, like, I used to have, like, really bad acne whenever I did eat like that. And as soon as I started drinking more water, I think it did wonders for my skin. Like, just having more, just water in my, my everyday life. I think that changed a lot too, not even just the foods I was eating, but just reintroducing that and stop drinking soda.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yeah, see? So you get it. You know all the things that I'm not all of them, but you know a lot of the stuff that I'm experiencing. Yeah, the only I can't imagine is not eating for a day. Yeah. Like that's hard and I don't even want to bring up how hard that would be for me because you're going through it right now. I know. And I'm like thinking of trying to get through to the 36 mark and see if I could do that.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I think I could if I'm busy enough. Because I think that's something that maybe some people don't think about me, but I eat a lot. Like I do. Like, whenever I do my long runs on Sundays, I am a bottomless pit that day. But the stuff I'm putting in my body is just stuff to fuel me. Like, that's kind of how I see food is like I see it as energy. I see it as things that are going to keep me going. So, like, I'll eat a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And I want to get to that point. I want to be where you are because I'm such a foodie and I want to stay a foodie that will, I don't know that that will ever change. because I love trying new restaurants and stuff, but I at least want to have the tools to know what's happening when I'm consuming something. And I don't feel like I've ever quite had that. Like I've known it and you kind of have these inclinations and you feel your body and making changes. But I don't know that I had all the right tools and resources to truly be like, oh, this is what that's doing to my body.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I mean, she walked me through the whole, like the whole body and how each one works in your liver and your kidney and all these different things. And I'm like, what? Why didn't they teach me that in school? I could have used a lot of this information for my life. Yeah, I wish I would have known that, like, 10 years ago because I went off, like, a few things that ran on the internet. But there wasn't as much information as there is now. There wasn't as many, like, experts on TikTok that I could go and, like, get actual advice from them. Because whenever I did lose all that weight and then I started going to the doctor, they were like, you lost how much on, like, by yourself?
Starting point is 00:57:21 And they had to, like, run all these tests on me just to make sure there wasn't, like, something wrong with my body that attributed to me losing that much weight in a year. Oh, because, you know, what does the mean? Have you ever read a girl lose weight by herself or something? Have you seen those? You probably have. It's probably not in your 40s age. It's like a meme of like, you know, people make fun of somebody for doing something or they're like, can't believe they'd do it.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And they're like, well, you know, gosh forbid a girl, work out. I don't know. But that's what made me think of that. But isn't that crazy that you had that experience where you're like, no, I literally just started eating healthy and they wouldn't. believe you. Yeah, they thought I had like some weird issue or maybe some illness that I was unaware of that attributed to that. I was like, I don't think so, but you can check it out. Even more admirable that you did all that too without so many resources than that you were
Starting point is 00:58:13 just like, you know what, I just need to make this change. Also that you were in your 20s and you made that decision. I feel like that's something that a lot of people make when they're 50 or 60 and it's almost like, well, a lot of damage that's been done and you try and rewrite it. And you can. You really put in the work and the effort but that's just crazy Mike I'm you know always impressed by your your story but that was I mean yeah that was kind of the trajectory of my whole life of like I made that decision to get healthy and lose weight and then once I lost it there was this weird realization of I thought it would fix everything and it did it because I was like well my teeth are still kind of messed up and that led me to that journey
Starting point is 00:58:56 and then it was like, okay, I'm fixing my teeth. Now I've been alone for like 20 whatever years at this point. Now I've got to move and try to find somebody. So it's weird achieving something you've been trying to achieve your entire life. And once you have it and you realize it's not everything. It's hard. Yeah. Like getting your dream job or, you know, getting to your dream city,
Starting point is 00:59:21 sometimes it's weird to get there and you realize, this would be different. I thought this would fix all my problems. There is very much a dream aspect to that where you think that if you could just do this or you could just do that, everything will be okay. And I think that's where a lot of people get caught up living in more future moments of like, well, I just got to get to this or I just got to do this or I wish I would have done this, like past or future when you have to force yourself to be in the present and be like, no, I have to be happy. Like you should have been happy for how much you did for yourself and your health that a lot of people don't do. And you took that step. And that was a really cool thing.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And then like, you know, okay, cool. Yeah, now I'm ready to find somebody. And you start doing it. Instead it became this, well, dang, I didn't think that, you know, this would not fix everything. This should have fixed everything. It's, that's hard. I think a lot of people get stuck in that trap of that living in past or future moments rather than just that present moment. accepting it for what it is and how awesome it is.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I think it's also helped me not envy other people because sometimes I get jealous of people, which I don't really do anymore, of like somebody who gets an opportunity. Like, man, if I just could have been given that opportunity or if my dad just happened to be the head of this company, like I would be so much more set in life. And I think it's made me not compare myself to others as much
Starting point is 01:00:45 because I think like everybody else is kind of doing the same thing and they probably all feel the same way and feel like they're falling behind. Like I don't have to envy where anybody else is. It's not really going to change where I am. So I think me feeling that of like achieving something that I've been trying to achieve my entire life and then feeling kind of like I'm not quite there yet.
Starting point is 01:01:03 It made me think like, oh, nobody has it figured out and nobody probably feels great at where they are. Even seeing somebody like a jelly roll, like headline a stadium, he's probably still like, man, that was cool. But I want a headline a stadium in another country. Like you're never going to achieve like that top. level for you. So you kind of have to enjoy it and then just focus on you. Yeah. And that it, you said the key thing, nobody hasn't figured out. Not a single person on this earth has figured
Starting point is 01:01:31 out anything. We're just all fumbling our way through trying to hope for the best. And that's all we can do. That's what life is, right? You have to enjoy the journey because if you keep trying to chase the journey soon enough, you're going to be 95 years old wishing you enjoyed the journey a little bit more and nobody wants that so that's a good place for us to end on look at you mike yeah see you can talk to people i believe in this and i believe next time you come on you will have joined a run club or at least go on and tried that's my hope i can at least try you can try see you don't be 95 wishing you did it differently right that's where we're ending us on thanks for being here and thanks for hanging out mike tell the people where they can find you hear you can hear my podcast movie
Starting point is 01:02:15 Mike's movie podcast, new episodes every single Monday, spoiler-free movie reviews. I talk about new movies I'm excited about coming out, which I just talked about a movie that I feel like you would never watch. It's a horror movie from the perspective of a dog. No, no. I saw the, I saw a preview for that. I refuse. I was like, ah, there's no way Morgan can see this because everybody's speculating what happens to the dog at the end of the movie. I'm like, no, this is, this is not you. I wouldn't even make it five minutes into that movie. The dog is so cute. Of course it's cute. And you know what? I'll see it online.
Starting point is 01:02:46 So just, you can, after every week, off Mike, you can tell me what happens because I won't watch it. But yeah, go check it out. His podcast is awesome, especially if you want to check out movies and things that are happening. But also, you just can hear Mike talk more. Yeah, people say it on talk. An hour a week, movies.
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