The Bobby Bones Show - MON PT 2: Bobby’s Bad Sunday + How Diet Soda Can Kill You (Allegedly) + Amy Apologizes To Bobby + How Did Raymundo’s Birthday Go At Garth’s Bar
Episode Date: September 8, 2025Bobby shared how bad of a day he had yesterday after Eller got out again. Amy shared how her daughter turned off sharing her location with her this weekend and the excuse she gave. A new study o...f more than 12-thousand people finds that artificial sweeteners can have a detrimental effect on cognitive health. Amy accused Bobby of faking something on social media and ended up apologizing after she found out it was true. A caller wanted to know if Raymundo’s birthday party was the reason that he couldn’t get into Garth’s bar over the weekend. A famous soccer player was named the heir to a billionaire that he never met. A wild story of how a woman saved her husband’s tattoo after he died. SPOILER ALERT: At the end, we also talked about Unknown Number: The High School Catfish in full details.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What's up, everyone?
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It's Will Ferrell.
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My dad gave me the best advice ever.
He goes, just give it a shot.
But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't
feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
Just hang in there.
Yeah.
It would not be.
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A rough day yesterday.
So we had a fence that was demolished by the neighbor's tree.
And I didn't know it.
And maybe they didn't know it either.
And so Eller, our husky slash hound, who is very quick.
She got out.
And her thing in our backyard is she likes to go, because we have woods, we have a few acres of woods.
And she likes to go and track and catch squirrels.
whatever else is back there. It's like her thing.
Do dog things. Yeah, she like brings them in sometimes.
It is weird. She like presents a rabbit.
I know she's like, look what I found. Look what I killed. And I'm like, so it's her thing.
And so all of a sudden she was gone. So we tracked her down. Got so lucky.
Gone again. Got so lucky we got her again because we have a very busy road near our house.
So went out searching and found that the tree had crashed the gate. They put up a temporary gate.
I went back out yesterday to make sure the gate was sealed and sealed off.
So it was a part of the woods that didn't have a trail.
And it messed me up so bad.
Like I got pollen in every hole.
Allergies.
In every hole.
And so it's killing me.
My glasses still have a little pollen on.
I'll clean them off like three times.
But somehow, when I let her out, she escaped again.
What?
Because it's that, the temporary gate is that stretchy stuff.
Yeah.
I don't know if she dug under it.
If she, like, Kool-Aid man through it.
I don't know.
We got lucky.
We found her again.
those Apple Air Tags, they're pretty good, but they're not constant.
Because we'll look and they'll say last scene 13 minutes ago at home.
Well, if the Apple Air Tag is constant, you should know every second.
And so we're just waiting for it to update.
And finally it updates and it's like, she's a neighborhood over 16 minutes ago.
So we jump in the car.
My wife and I go find her.
Thank God she jumps in the car.
So I'm just like, my head's about to explode from all these allergies.
But it was 59 degrees driving in this morning.
How about that?
I know.
Ready for it.
I'm sure everybody's weather's different where they are.
You are?
But it's...
Yeah, I love fall.
Love fall. Love it.
I don't like that cold.
I kind of just like spring and early summer.
No, these chilly mornings remind me that a beautiful day is ahead.
Not too hot.
Not too cold.
I have to walk outside when I let Stanley go to the bathroom.
I have to go out with him every day because he likes to now roll around and poop.
That's his thing?
Yeah.
And I can't get him to stop.
And so in order to get him to not roll around our poop, I got to walk out with him everywhere.
So it's cold now.
It sucks, but it's okay.
At least your dogs can't turn off their Apple air tags
because my daughter turned off her life 360 this weekend and let me tell you.
Oh, really?
That's not good.
Well...
Can we take back the ad in the yearbook?
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
She turned it back on.
She turned it back on.
Yeah, I'm sure after she was done doing whatever.
It wasn't, no, it wasn't.
Like, I don't even know why they turn it off.
Like, I don't get it.
You know why?
What do you mean?
You don't know why they turn it off?
It's so you don't know where they are.
I know where you are.
Because I would do that to my wife after a fight back in the early marriage days.
I would turn off the find on my phone.
To make her think what?
Like what did you want her to think you were doing?
Just control like you don't know where I am.
Going to Mexico?
No, just like you don't know where I am and I have control of where I am and I have control of you not knowing where I am.
I used to do that some.
I haven't done that in years.
You've grown.
In other, in ways.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, like I didn't want her to know.
That's why I turned it all.
That's why does she turn it off?
Yeah.
Why?
What did she say?
Well, I guess she never really gave me a reason as to why it was off.
And I didn't know.
I can see when it got turned off and it was Thursday and then it was on Friday night that I was trying to figure out because there was a football game.
But then there was bad weather.
So it was potentially going to get canceled.
So she was like trying to go to the game.
And then I'm like, where are y'all?
Because I know you're not at the game.
And she's like, oh, we're at Taco Bell.
And so I go to try to just look and I can't tell.
But I know they really are.
It's like right down the street.
And then when she turns it on, I could tell.
She turned it off to hide something else, though.
Yeah, but like when?
Because like Thursday night.
No, I never thought.
No, because she turned it right back on.
But it had to be Thursday night.
And all she did was go to work on Thursday.
Supposedly.
Yeah, she worked on.
I got a feeling all she did is not all she did.
Because why would she turn it off?
But she was home by six of a clock.
I don't know.
Good question.
Like, it's just weird.
Actually, Thursday night, take that back.
She comes to me on Friday.
So she turned it off.
Maybe I need to check with her dad.
You know what I mean?
It's just one of those things or it's annoying.
So at least Eller, when she gets out, she's not deactivating her air tags.
She would.
She would.
Yeah, she would.
But Life 360 is good.
You need that for Ella because that tells you, like, when they're driving, if they're walking.
How fast?
If they're skipping and have a phone.
Right, good point.
If Ella had a phone, I could track her phone.
I know, but maybe there's something.
Wear it on her neck, charge it constantly.
Yeah, because you could tell if she's walking or jogging.
Everybody is laughing, joking.
Oh, so annoying.
Right.
We've been so lucky the four times she's got out.
She hasn't been hit.
bike car. I told Caitlin yesterday because we're out trying
to find her. I'm like, one of these times if she keeps
getting out is not, it's not going to end up.
In the very lucky way
it's ended up. But
my head feels like it's going to explode because I'm in
the woods. She's just freaking digging through.
Like no, are you still chopping
stuff with the machete? I didn't.
No, I went to just check the fence.
It's so thick. But you don't take the machete with you
while you go in the woods just in case? I didn't.
I didn't think I was going to run into big foot or anything.
I can't tell if you like really made that trail.
This is like when you and Eddie, when you
that he built the pickleball court.
We did.
We did.
I know you did.
I know, but we built the pickleball court, but I really did the trail, I promise.
I promise.
Okay.
I didn't hear a difference there.
A difference in what?
And what he said.
Yeah, he built a pickleball court and he made the trail.
I was showing me making the trail on Instagram story.
Okay.
What do you think you hired someone with a machete to walk in front of him?
Like, he did it.
I don't know.
Or like a big machine.
I mean, it was so thoroughly.
Yes.
No machine.
Me.
Okay.
Now I'm starting to doubt it.
Did you really do it?
Yeah.
I was zooming in and I'm like, okay, this is like legit.
Okay, hold on.
Oh, you got video of you chopping?
No, but I'm going to tell Caitlin.
Hey, they're doubting that I chopped that trail down in the backyard with the two machetes.
The whole thing.
The whole thing.
Because you can go out there and chop one or two and say, I've chopped to it.
And she's comparing it to the pickleball court, which we did, but this I really did.
So would you mind sending over a verification if you can, audio verification that I actually did that?
because I'm like all stuffy today
from going back in the woods on the gate.
I was telling the gate story.
Anyway, thanks.
Bye.
All right.
She won't lie.
So there you go.
I for sure did.
Wow.
I mean, that's impressive.
Like, because you don't do chores like that.
Chores?
Okay, but there's a difference.
It's not that I can't.
It's that I choose not to anymore.
I know, but why did you choose to do that?
Because I needed to know right then how she was getting out of the gate.
Okay, I get that when you're desperate.
because sometimes my
typical behavior. Also, I have the skill set to do it.
I know you do. You've worked maintenance.
Yes, you've done lawn care.
I know.
Lon care.
Okay.
Those unpertilizing.
I don't know that I did lawn care.
I mostly did like lawn support.
Turf management.
Yeah, more like that.
A diet soda can make the brain age faster.
Oh.
Shut up.
A new study of more than 12,000 people
finds that artificial sweeteners can have a detrimental effect on
cognitive health, researchers followed adults for eight years, tracking what they ate, drank,
and focused on seven artificial sweeteners, aspartame, and they go through a lot of these, I can't pronounce
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skills, losing around 1.6 years in extra brain aging with a 62% faster cognitive decline.
I don't drink anything diet.
I love Diet Coke. I mean, I drink it way less than I used to, but sometimes,
Sometimes there's nothing else that is going to, you know, do the...
Get that burn?
Yeah, to like just get the fix from...
I got a soda a couple weeks ago, a normal...
What did you get?
A Coke.
Yeah.
It burns perfectly.
I don't like normal Coke.
I love normal Coke.
I love Mountain Dew.
Yeah.
Was the last time you had one of those?
It's been a bit, huh?
The only time that I really, like, go forth with drinking one, because I love them all the time,
is if I'm not feeling good and I need some sort of quick, make me feel good fix,
And I'll do a mountain dew or like, I can't do cheesecake anymore because I can't do dairy.
But there were like the things that I would chase.
You know the best feel-do combo is a diet mountain-due.
That's what?
Field-do.
Oh, sorry, feel-good combo.
Y'all.
A diet mountain-dew with my doll.
What the M&M.
Does that like to party?
No, but I did discover it.
That's a feel good.
I did discover in college.
No.
Like anytime I was just feeling like total crap, I would do a diet mountain-due and my doll.
and like everything changed.
I don't know what's like chemically happening
with that combo,
but it's legit.
And who knows how many years
it's taking off my life.
But I don't do that anymore,
but I don't like the taste of anything diet.
That gross.
I guess because I grew,
I'm a 90s girl
and like everything we did was diet, you know?
So like in,
I get guys like y'all probably had the regular soda,
but most girls my age,
we all have a diet Coke fixation.
I think because of how,
like we were teenagers when it was like,
oh, diet everything.
And you thought diet was the healthier way to go.
Right.
Like all in.
And so that's what our taste buds got accustomed to.
And so now I much prefer that over a regular Coke,
and it has nothing to do with the calories or sugar.
It's just preference.
Let's run through some voicemails.
This is number one.
Hit it, please.
Hey, bancho.
Just calling in to say hello and go Jags.
Sorry, Bobby.
First game in the year.
Hey.
Me and my panther friends, we're just going to keep pounding.
Mm-hmm.
That's what he'll do.
There's a lot of stuff we do, but mostly we keep pounding.
We'll get them next week.
Next up.
I heard on Friday that Amy was going to give her coaches review on Monday,
but I need to warn her,
do not forget to watch Monday night football with the Vikings.
Head coach Kevin O'Connell will make you go into a hot flash.
So fast.
I'm speechless right now.
Just watch him, and you'll rank him high.
You're welcome.
He's a good-looking guy, but I don't think you get a hot flash.
Real fast.
Yeah, he's a good looking guy.
I met him.
He was the backup quarterback from my partner on my other sports podcast, lots to say.
He is definitely cute.
He's a good looking guy.
Yeah, for sure.
Doing a little pregame here.
Wow.
Like research.
Are you hot flashing?
He's only 40.
Oh, what does he make?
What's his salary?
Let me do.
Kevin O'Connell.
I want to guess $6 million.
Per year?
Yeah.
I'm just guessing.
Oh, 15 million per year.
What?
Wow, that's pretty good.
Kevin O'conno's salary with the Vikings is 15 million per year
following a multi-year contract extension just a couple months ago.
There you go.
Good for him.
Oh, wow.
My wife left to voice no-oh.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, I'll see it.
Wow, he's.
There you go.
Yes, you did clear the trail with the machetes back in the woods,
but surely no one actually believes that I would let you and Eddie build.
Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! No one's talking about that. She cut out.
Okay. Well, I owe you an apology because I definitely thought you were just like, you know, doing your thing.
Like, where you act like you build a house or something and then you're like, look what I did.
You mean specifically like to pick a ball cord?
Yeah. I just thought that that's what was happening. I was like, surely he didn't clear that.
I was like, somebody came and cleared that the other day and now he's out there like, you know, waving his little sword around acting like he did it.
I'm not better than that, let's be honest, but I did this one.
Yeah, I know, I've known you for 20 years.
So I figured that's what we were looking at, but I owe you an apology.
That's legit.
Apology, not accepted.
You also have, like, scratches on your hands and stuff.
Oh, you have it.
You mean, like, the cuts and stuff?
I know, but I see him, like, grabbing some twigs and me like, let's not go.
I got it from the slight bit of faking I was doing.
That's how sensitive my hands are.
Okay, let's go.
Number three, right?
Hey, I'm a massive UT fan, and I am going to the,
the UT Arkansas game that's in Austin and I just had to ask Bobby are you planning on being there
you lived in Austin obviously a huge Arkansas fan so just wondering if you are planning on making
the trip Amy I hope that you watched the UT game because Steve Sarkesian needs to be on your
list thanks for all you all do yeah I'll tell you this about Steve Sarkisian I don't think he's that good
looking I think he's fine I think he's average oh he he won yeah but who was he playing no
remember.
No, not the game,
the coaches.
I'll tell you.
Remember that coach?
Give me a second.
Because I watched the game.
I wanted to see how Arch Manning played.
You're looking at your story?
Yeah, I'm going to go look at my archive to see because I know he won.
Your guy's name is Ken.
Yep.
Neumetalilo.
Okay.
Bigger fellow.
Coach Steve from UT was playing Coach Ken from San Jose State.
Coach Steve has a seven-year deal worth over 70 million.
And Coach Ken has a first.
year deal worth 7.5 million. So did UTI pay San Jose to play? I would think so, yes.
Yeah. Amy, I don't like how you throw the salaries into it. I don't either. Why? It does feel dirty.
It does feel dirty. No, no, no, no. Just the fact that you're looking up salaries to see if they're dateable.
It's because women like money, guys. Women like money. I said the same thing earlier. It felt weird that she was doing that because the whole thing wasn't, let's see how much money they make and factor that in. It's just what you date them based on what you see.
Right. And I did pick them based on what I was seeing, but I just decided to look out how much. I needed to entertain myself somehow. Like maybe. You know, you could have changed the channel as soon as you did your coaches. You don't have to watch the whole game to know which coach you would date. Let's see. I picked Tony Elliott from UVA, coach Mike from A&M, coach Steve from UT, coach Manny from Duke, coach Will from East Tennessee. And he was the four one.
They got to be like 100.
By poor, I mean, not poor, but you know what I mean?
Will you look up, what's his name?
Coach Who at East Tennessee?
Because they played Tennessee, right?
Oh, Coach Will.
Yeah.
Yeah, Tennessee is coach Josh.
And he's looking at a cool $45 million with his five-year contract.
A cool, a cool, a cool 45-mill?
Coach Will Will.
Will.
He's the one that has only the four-year deal.
Will Healy's a good-looking dude.
Yeah, he is.
That's why he won.
See, he made less money, but I still picked him.
So you could see.
You want an award?
Yeah.
It's not about that.
I just was like...
Will Healy.
Curious what people may.
I don't know.
It's just fascinating to me that some of these coaches make these crazy insane salaries and these other ones, which I know they could build up to it.
But...
They get a bigger job.
It's all about the money that your program made.
Yeah.
And UT brings in a lot of money.
It's from Chattanooga.
Coach Will Healy.
Tennessee did.
40 years old. There you go.
But yeah, I don't really see this. Steve
Sarkisian. We need to put him on the list for being good looking.
He's average.
Solid six.
Yeah, I don't look at him and say like that's a good looking dude.
Wait, but isn't his wife like stunning?
Have you all seen Pass or Smash?
What? Yes.
That's inappropriate.
The guy that does all the wives of the coaches?
Yes.
Yeah, of course.
Someone was like, you should do it.
He's like looks at all the wives of all the coaches.
Amy, is that kind of what you want to do?
No.
exactly what she's doing.
Pass or smash.
People were sending that to me and they're like, you need to do it like this guy.
And I am like, I am not doing pass or smash on coaches.
I'm just going to go, which coach would you date?
But that's a version of pass or smash.
He does funny stuff too, pass or smash.
He'll say stuff.
Oh, yeah, he'll be like triple smash.
Three beers, triple smash.
And then I feel bad for the ones where he's like, pass.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm just giving a green checkmark, whoever gets it.
And it doesn't mean the other one's not datable.
It's not like I'm like, pass.
vomit. I'm just sort of like, I pick this guy.
But you put their money. So the ones that you're like, they're broke.
Even if you pick them, you're like, they're broke, but I still pick them. It's like you picked a charity case.
But none of these coaches are broke. They still make good living.
Relatively speaking, though. Yes, I understand.
Relative to Josh Heipal, that Will, that will, coach will, is that what he said?
Yeah, coach will. He's one of the lower head.
Having the food stamp line. Yeah. Got him a cheese. I figure he's going to work his way up.
Possibly.
or he could go be a coordinator at a bigger school
if he doesn't work his way up and work his way up that way. Make a little more money.
Special teams, something like that.
You're just saying work.
Give me Cameron from Utah, please.
I was in Nashville for the weekend.
Friday night we went downtown.
We ended up at Friends or was roped off for a private event.
And everyone was getting annoyed.
And then I just remembered, wait, Ray's birthday party was going to be at Friends.
and it was going to be, he had a whole floor to himself.
If that was your fault, Ray, I hope you had a happy birthday at least.
Ray?
Yeah!
It was happy. It was good.
No, was your event?
We were the next day.
Got it.
And now Friday night, that's probably triple the price what we paid, so.
You had to pay?
We got the 6,000 square feet room for free, but we paid for food and drinks.
Dang, you thought Garth had hooked it up.
Nah.
We'd take care of the staff.
stuff like that. I mean, I don't even want to know how much that was. It was a, it's a cigar room.
It's a, it was the pool area, which is also the Sevens Club, the kitchen, Trisha's kitchen, her own.
He gave you his property to get married. Yeah. Yeah. Went to the church on his property.
But it's like, it's one of those friendships where, hey, man, give us everything for free.
No, are you serious? We can get this for free. We're paying something. I think that's kind of how it went
down. How was a party? I don't, I mean, I don't want to go too much into it because I don't want
you guys to get jealous. No, I would like to hear it because.
It looks fun.
I texted right and I was like, well, that looks fun.
It looked a lot of fun.
Yeah, we got there right at 1130 and all our friends.
We have the, speaking of the live app stuff.
All of our friends.
Friends.
All of our friends, he said, we're there.
Speaking of Live 360, we track all our friends and see where they're at.
Not one person left their house before 1130.
So we were there for 45 minutes, just me and Bayer.
I'd have been there five minutes early.
It'd have been me and you in Bay.
And where we go, we really have all this?
Then we told the people, hey, we don't got a long.
lot of people coming, so we're not really going to fill the space. So maybe we don't need the
butler. Maybe we don't need the bartender. Maybe we don't need the hostess. What time do everybody
get there? Right around noon, I'd say it was a popular time, noon to 1230. The Dodds came like an
hour and a half later. But they got kids. Yeah, they have kids, man. Kids always work for any
excuse whatsoever. Yep. But they made it worth once they got there. They brought it hot and heavy.
I mean, we were giving best story. We went around the table. Hey, tell your best story of Ray.
Ray, tell your best story of this person.
Like special stuff like that, really cool.
And then the view overlooked Broadway.
So I gave my speech and I was like,
you want to want to hear it?
It's very quick.
Beezer goes, Ray, give us a speech.
And so I go, guys, all the less fortunate down there,
the peons, we're the wealthy, we're the upper crust of American society.
Let's toast a grass, toast a glass to being the affluent people that we are.
Like the host is over there like, who are these people?
But obviously we'll never do.
So you were joking.
No.
Well, not.
Usually they have rich people, so they probably thought we were kind of like that, but we'll never do something like that again.
That sounds fun.
But yeah, and then Trisha made all kinds of food.
We had attendees.
We had burgers.
Did Trisha make the food?
Yeah.
She made the cookies.
She made the birthday cake, all that.
And then they shot off cannons with a...
Trisha Yirwood made your birthday cake.
Yeah.
With her own hands.
She'll make the cakes.
With their own hands?
Yeah.
And so then they came around with the cannons and the birthday son.
Did you bring any cake from the party to us?
I wish I could have.
We bar hopped.
still got to go get gifts. At like two in the afternoon, I get to go into a bar on Broadway.
You left them all there? Yeah. Did you get drunk? Didn't intend to. Oh, he definitely did.
Did you watch his stories? There was like 15 of them of him in an Uber dancing with his tongue out.
I didn't see that one now. Yeah, I deleted those next morning. We bounced all around. We went to
Midtown. We went back to Broadway. We took it back to our house. My buddy Justin stayed the night.
I was like, how did you end up here? Where did he end up?
Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, your buddy Justin is.
is around the lodge.
Your birthday wishes?
No, we, not to bring it down, but we buried his dog on our property.
So we always go over to the grave and pour one out for the dog for Templeton.
So that's what you all did.
Pour one out.
So yeah, they ended up stay in the night.
Abby, how was your birthday?
I saw you at a fancy dinner or something.
Yeah, it was awesome.
We went Friday night in Nashville to a steak dinner because I love steak.
Where did you go?
It's called Oak.
Okay.
It's like downtown.
Kind of never been there.
It was really good.
And then we went to Atlanta the next day, and we stayed in like a hotel, and it was 65 floors.
Like our hotel room was on the 65th floor.
How cool is that?
I was going to say, did you not like that?
It was awesome.
Yeah.
It was the coolest thing ever.
Was it some sort of special suite?
No.
No, it's just a super high hotel down there.
And then the top has like a rotating bar.
We sat there, and it does a 360.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
I've never been in those.
Do you get dizzy up there?
They move so slow that sometimes you can kind of feel it,
but mostly it's like there's a point,
and you look at a point, and that point's moved.
And you're like, oh, I think we moved a little.
Right?
Would you say that?
Yeah, yeah.
We did like a time lapse on the phone.
It was really cool.
You ever done that?
Everybody'd be vomiting.
I wanted it to go faster.
Like, can we speed this up?
So a good birthday?
Yeah.
Then the next day we went to Six Flags.
That was super fun because no one was there.
It's like the perfect weekend.
to go.
Yeah, everyone's back to school.
Yeah, because it's football.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And then everybody back to school and the weather was great.
It was awesome.
It's amazing.
You didn't watch any NFL yesterday?
Nope.
Not any of it.
What did you?
By the kids.
Did you have basketball tournament or something?
Yeah, I ended up going to that.
I didn't.
There was a game yesterday, but then we ended up not even going.
We had more birthday stuff or my boyfriend.
daughter like Saturday and Sunday.
I'm trying to think what else do we do.
We went over to his house for that like to do like some gifts and stuff with her.
My daughter had to work.
She worked like.
Are you sure?
Yes.
I checked like three six years.
She was there.
And she comes home with like stuff that's going to expire.
Food?
Lots of food.
Yeah.
Which is and then her apron's dirty.
So either she's going all in on like her little.
If she's not working, this is a good.
Oh, I get it.
She's dedicated.
There was another story out about water and how if your water bottle is in the car and it gets hot,
don't drink the water.
Because...
The plastics.
Microplastics.
For sure, my brain is full of them.
It's basically one microplastic.
Sure.
Just from the years of not knowing anything about them.
But this is from food and wine.
Experts are reminding people how bad it is to drink from a water bottle that you left in your car.
Studies show that leaving plastic water bottles in hot environments like a car
causes them to release billions of microplastic particles.
These particles have been tested and are harmful chemicals that are floating around on the water.
To reduce exposure, experts recommend avoiding long-term storage of bottle water and hot conditions.
The first person I ever heard talk about that was Shil Crow.
And it was forever ago.
She was like, if there's a water bottle in your car, do not drink it.
And I was like, yeah, but I'm thirsty.
Yeah.
But also here's my thing with like, I think about it when I'm at the gas station and I'm pulling,
if I go get a plastic water bottle because I'm thirsty.
Like, when that was transported or what warehouse was it stored in?
And it's a hot summer month.
Like, is it already hot and leaking?
Like, maybe it's not in my car hot, but I'm already, the microplastics are already in there.
The warehouse?
Probably scorching in there.
So, I mean, is it in a temperature controlled environment?
It's a great question.
I bet it's not.
Yeah, so it's like, what do you say we do?
What do about that?
I don't know, we're screwed.
Don't drink water bottles.
We're just screwed?
Yeah, because I'm still, I know it and I still buy it and I still drink it.
A Brazilian football legend is named the air of.
of a childless billionaire that he never met.
What, he's just like a fan?
No, he's famous.
I know, but he's already rich.
Yeah, and I'm often asked people to put me in their will.
I've asked many times, like, hey, if you're getting sick, you're dying, you're old, you have nobody to leave stuff to.
Put me in there.
I'd love to be the person.
I'll give it out generously.
No one ever has.
I never got a call from a lawyer going, hey, you've been left.
But that's what happened here, basically.
Namar, the soccer player, who, by the way, was at the Brazilian football game on Friday night.
Yeah, he's been named the air to a war.
$1.14 billion fortune by a billionaire he's never met. The 33-year-old player was chosen as the sole
heir by an anonymous, single, childless billionaire who passed away recently. Wow. That is so
insane. The deceased billionaire said he identified with Namor on a personal level, especially
admiring his close relationship with his father, which reminded him of his own late father.
This is from Audity Central. Namor has a net worth of around half a billion dollars already,
but getting this money makes him a billionaire.
outright. Dang. Wow. Rich get richer. Yes. You just get a call. Hey, Mr. Namar. Here's a billion
dollars. How did I get this? Uh, so-and-so. I never met them. Are you sure this is true? Yeah.
Wow. Yeah. You think it's a scam for sure. Oh, I don't know how, but it's a scam.
I had to turn off a card last night. Do what my check card. Yeah. I got a thing going. Did you make?
Like your debit card? Yeah. Are you called it a check card?
I guess I do.
What is that of me?
Oh, go ahead.
Is that, I don't know.
I don't know.
Because, like, my grandma would say,
anybody seen my pocketbook?
Yeah, I'm asking, though,
like, when I say that,
what do you think?
Because I think nothing of it.
Check card?
I don't know.
Did you all say that in Arkansas?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I never thought anything about it.
Is that not what you guys call it?
I don't know what I call it.
I don't know that I'm a debit card.
It is a debit card.
Right.
Yeah.
It even says on debit.
Yeah, no, I get it.
You can take you take a little stabs.
Yeah.
It's not a stab at all.
If that's what you say, like I get it.
It's regionally people refer to things differently.
I have no idea if that's what you'll do there, though.
It's hillbilly.
I don't know that it means it's hillbilly.
Well, regional.
What region?
Well, Arkansas.
Okay.
And what would most people refer to us as?
I don't refer to as that.
You do.
I'm not calling you that.
I don't know if you're hillbill.
I don't know.
What is a check card?
When you guys hear that, what do you hear?
Check card.
I don't know what that is.
It's a card that probably works like a check.
With your checking account.
Connected to your checking account.
Yeah, that's what it is.
My check card.
I never knew that was a different thing.
Mike, what is that to you?
Old person.
Yeah, old person is what I thought.
Well, that's why I thought of an ATM card.
My check card.
Got it.
That's better, Mike.
Are you carrying a pocketbook today?
No.
No purse.
Anyway, I got a message going, is this you yes or no?
And I clicked no and he goes, we just canceled your card.
Like immediately.
I think I were just taking the run.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what were they buying?
I don't know.
It's a $100 charge to something.
And most times when they're trying to mess with you, they don't do $100.
$1.
Yeah, they do something very small to see if it goes through.
Then they go hard.
Dang.
And so it's like, is this you?
And I immediately click no.
And then I regret it clicking no.
I would rather be taking a run, let them have a couple things.
And then gotten some cash out first.
Because I can't get any cash out of the ATM now.
That sucks.
Which, by the way, somebody stole my $50 bill out of my wad of cashier.
In the studio?
Yeah.
Did see a bill on the floor.
Oh,
$1 bill.
Oh.
Yeah, I'll go through it again just to make sure this could be a 50.
This could be a 50.
Found it.
Oh.
That's why you don't get to conclusions.
See, there you go.
I was thinking like, oh no, who got in here because it's locked up.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me.
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I'm willing to give all this money away.
Okay.
I'll take it.
Here I am.
Here I am.
Rock me like a hurricane.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
It's like, that's probably like 80 bucks or so.
Mike, would you put Scuba, Ray,
Abby Amy. Eddie.
Now, hold on a minute.
Hello.
Who's the one person?
You forgot my name.
Okay.
Is that pallet money?
What is that?
It is.
Mike, would you put all eight of us onto a wheel or onto a something like random generator?
And then drop an eight person bracket.
I'm in it too.
I feel like this is going to be a long-term game.
What, do you want the money?
Yes.
Is it worth it?
It's worth the way for me.
Eddie's complaining.
Why are you complaining?
I'm not complaining.
I'm all in.
I thought it was just going to be a spin of the wheel
and whoever it lands gets the money.
I'm like, let's go.
I mean, I want you to get that up.
The eighth person.
Scuba, Ray, Abby, Amy.
Lunchbox, Morgan, Eddie, me.
Here I am.
If you do that, I'll draw the bracket
on the back of my paper,
and we'll go from there.
He's got him on a wheel.
Spin it up.
See who comes up first.
See it there, too.
Oh, I see it.
Here we go.
Up first is
Ramundo.
You!
Ramundo in the first round of the game that has not been spoken yet.
Are you remove them now?
Yeah, you can remove them.
Yeah.
Ramundo will be playing Amy.
Okay, there you go.
All right, we'll remove Amy from the wheel.
In the first round, there's only five people left.
Shouldn't there be six?
The last one?
Scuba.
Amy.
Eddie, me.
Morgan.
Got it.
Is Morgan on there?
Okay, there we go. Hit it.
All right, next up.
I wish you guys could see this.
We got to get a screen.
Eddie.
Ooh.
So whoever's next, I'm playing?
Yep.
All right, come on, Abby.
You don't even know what you're playing.
Doesn't matter what we're playing.
Come on.
She yelled Abby for now.
That's wrong.
Is she the lowest intelligence-wise, Eddie?
I just would like to play Abby.
All right, go ahead.
Eddie will be playing.
Come on, baby.
Scuba.
Oh.
All right, four people left.
Abby.
Next up is
in the blue.
Abby.
Come on, lunchbox.
Come get some.
And blue, that would be me.
I'll be playing Abby first round.
Oh, shoot.
Bye, Abby.
Bye, Abby.
Yeah, what kind of game is?
It doesn't matter.
Then Morgan and Lunchbox are playing first round.
Okay, so here's the bracket.
I had Abby go and get a jenga.
Oh, like the game?
Like a big, live-sized jenga or table jenga?
Not live-size.
They have the big ones.
Yeah, I'm not cleaning that out.
That'll be crazy.
So you guys always minimize stuff.
No, no, no, you're good, you're good.
No.
So we're going to play.
We'll jenga it up.
We can do the first round today, which will be Raymondo and Amy.
And the winner of the whole tournament gets all the money.
This is amazing.
And then we'll shoot it.
Yeah, we'll shoot it.
And we'll do it as an independent video.
We go to that?
Yeah.
Okay.
So over on our YouTube page,
which if you're watching this,
for the most part,
you're probably watching it live on YouTube.
We'll do it on YouTube.
But if you are a,
just podcast listener,
you can go over to our YouTube and watch it.
We'll play the first one today.
All right, good.
Do you have stuff?
I haven't gone to you guys in a bit.
Do you have stuff?
Like a story?
Yeah.
Yeah, about some NFL player.
I don't know him, but y'all might.
I guess he's a former NFL, but Thomas Davis or something.
What about him?
You know who that is?
Doesn't ring a bell right now.
Oh, I just saw this whole thing about his ex, like, attacked some girl that was allegedly
attacked some girl that was hooking up with him.
And it just made me think, like, how we react to things.
Like, it's his ex-wife, and she's going and allegedly attacking.
another woman for hooking up with him when...
It's his fault.
Well, it's his fault, but also...
But they're divorced.
Like, no, it's her fault.
Like her action.
So I'm just trying to think of like...
Oh, no, no, no. I thought you were like, who should she be mad at?
It's his fault if you're going to blame somebody.
Oh, yeah.
Like if they were still together and he did that, then it's his fault.
You would think.
But I don't know.
It just makes you think of sometimes just how relationships make people crazy, allegedly.
Yeah, and you look for a reason that you...
you are the victim.
Yeah.
Because that's her going, I was done wrong.
I'm going to attack the person who has done me wrong.
And that's the girl he was hooking up with.
Yeah.
And apparently that girl is the chiropractor and she showed up at her office and hit her multiple times.
Wow.
I didn't see the story.
Allegedly.
I'm not familiar with him.
So I don't.
Dang.
I thought you would know.
So I didn't even look up to see what team he played for.
Because, you know.
I never heard of that name.
Let's see.
He's wearing a blue jersey.
Blue, yellow and white with lightning stripes.
Chargers?
They're not called stripes.
Lightning on the shoulder.
Chargers probably.
He played for the Panthers, Chargers, and Washington.
Okay.
Anybody know who he is?
He was an all-pro in 2015?
All-pro linebacker, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so...
2015, so it's been 11 years?
It's been a minute.
He's a former NFL player, but I guess he's still somewhat popular because it made...
I mean, this made...
Well, the story is sensational.
Made the news, yes, and it just made me think of...
I don't know.
I feel bad.
chiropractor girl, she shouldn't get attacked.
You know?
20, 15, that's 10 years, right?
Yeah, you're 10 plus.
I guess it depends on when.
I thought you were pulling a ray here with an extra year.
Oh, no.
Ray, your sign said 40th birthday, though, not 41st.
Yeah, I think they just went with 1985.
What are you eating?
Some corn cakes.
Corn cakes.
That's a corn cake.
That sounds like the least appealing cake ever.
A corn cake?
Oh, they're amazing.
There's nothing in them, guys.
What do you mean?
and there's nothing in it.
But they're amazing.
Are you eating it just because you need some sustenance?
Yeah, yeah, two-day hangover.
You went that hard?
Are you that old now?
No, you just know that's going to happen.
I think we started at 10.30 and took it until 1.30 a.m.
I mean, that's over 12 hours.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
Like, that's longer than these NFL guys played yesterday.
But you did it.
I know.
Like, that's like one of those where, hey, props to me, man.
That's impressive.
Props to you, buddy.
Good job, dude.
Still going hard at 40.
Morgan, will you have a story over there?
Yeah, I do. So there is a widow and she had her husband's tattoo removed from his body and kept it.
I saw that, like framed it.
Yeah. Is it the skin? Yeah.
What? She took the skin off the dude?
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was something they had talked about before. I guess he had a bunch of tattoos, but this was like the one.
They're big Pittsburgh Steelers fans and they cut it out.
Like you? Becoming one. They cut it all out and they had it framed and she's the one who like draw it, like drew it on his body of the one.
one that she wanted.
I mean, he would have to give written consent before he passed away for that because you can't
just like...
Yeah, they did that.
They talked about it.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I get that they talked about it.
But, I mean, he had to be a part of that.
Yeah, she can't go to the funeral home and be like, we talked about it.
Right.
Give me the tattoo now.
Like, where it does to be a contract.
Also, I don't know.
He died suddenly.
It wasn't like it was a...
It looks like a massive corridor in the frame.
I saw the picture because it's a big circle.
It looks like a big piece of bologna.
Ew.
Yeah.
Just with the Pittsburgh Steelers helmet on it.
Why couldn't you just like take a picture of him and the tattoo and frame it?
Apparently this is a thing I did not realize.
There's a whole company called Save My Ink Forever and they do this.
So this is apparently a thing that a lot of people do.
People are weird.
Okay.
Wow.
I don't hate it.
It's weird, but I don't hate it because it ain't wrong.
And when people die, you know, some people keep their dog's paw around their neck.
The pawpong.
Do what?
The real paw?
What?
The real paw?
Like a paw print?
No, I've seen both.
I've seen people like keep a paw print for sure.
Like a lucky rabbit's foot?
Yep.
What?
I've never heard of that.
Where have you seen that?
You think that's weird than the skin off the guy?
No, it's both weird.
Yeah, both weird.
Very weird.
I've seen people stuff their animals.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, taxidermy.
That's the mean.
No, no, they're actual animal.
They're a pet.
No, I get it.
I get it.
You think stuffing a full pet is less weird than saving a paw?
Well, you stuff a deer that you shot and that you had no relationship with.
Yeah, that's because you didn't have a relationship with.
Yeah, that's because you didn't have a relationship.
And there is a, that is you going, look at this trophy.
I killed something this big.
It's a comparison trophy.
Didn't you want to get stuffed when you died?
No, I want to be up here at my desk.
Stuffed?
No, I don't care about being stuffed.
Oh.
So just your ashes at your desk?
No, my body, before I stink.
Well, that's going to.
I mean, that's like a day, dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, have me up here.
Just sitting here.
Can people come by and look at it?
Take a picture.
Take a picture.
Final pictures.
I've never heard of the dog paw.
That's weird.
You never heard of the skin in a frame either.
That's even weirder.
Yeah, that's a weird one.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's not weird.
Yeah.
I mean...
She drew it though, too, right?
I didn't see that part.
She could have.
Maybe not.
It was just like more...
I think their son was also involved.
They have a 10-year-old son,
and he was also, like,
excited about this being an arrival thing.
There was a whole piece of this.
The picture of them together holding that framed tattoo,
they're smiling a little too big for me.
Yeah, like, I don't want my 10-year-old to be into, like, skin, dead skin.
I don't think it's just their dad.
It's just something kept from the...
Imagine your 10 and your dad dies.
You know, that's terrible.
That's like a part of him.
You want to live on.
Then you can just sew it into your skin.
No, no.
I honestly, when Morgan started talking, I thought that's what she was going to say.
But then I'm like, I mean, crazier things have been done.
This isn't the same, but, you know, my cousin, he got a tattoo,
but he wanted a tattoo of a girl, and he saw a girl.
in public and was like, can I get your face on my arm?
No way.
Yeah, and he got a tattoo.
She was like, okay.
No way.
He got a tattoo of her face and now they're married.
Isn't that crazy?
Wait, what?
They're married now.
And that's how they met because he was like, you are beautiful.
I want your face on my arm.
Wow, that's a good story.
Isn't that cool?
It turns out good.
It was creepy.
It was really leading me to creep vibes.
I mean, it's still creepy to go up to someone.
Was it using that to pick her up?
No, he just said he thought she was beautiful.
And he just was looking for a beautiful girl
put on his own. Yeah, because he wanted to tattoo. So she went to the tattoo parlor with him,
sat there. I don't know if she took a picture and then just said,
here's my picture. Yeah, because then they maybe scan it and trace it. Then how does they end up
getting married? They went on, they went on some dates. He got down on a knee and they proposed.
I know, but like, when did they talk if she walked away forever? Yeah, I don't know. Wow,
that's a good one. It's crazy, you know? Lunchbox story.
Yeah, Cam and Leroy from the Challenge. They've been engaged for a while. They got a couple
kids and they got married. They eloped. Finally said, you know what? Let's just go down. Let's get married.
They did the thing. And so, so excited for them. They started dating on the challenge. Then they got
in this huge fight, didn't talk for like a year and a half. And they got cast on the same challenge
a couple seasons later. And they didn't talk like half the season. And then they got drunk and
started talking and they fell in love and boom. Congratulations. Pretty awesome. Why do they not talk?
Because they were so angry at each other. I know why. I don't know the ends. I think that's why.
That's why they weren't talking because they were angry.
But was the fight related to the actual challenge or just other drama?
No, more like he wasn't open with his emotions.
He wasn't there.
Like, I guess, I don't know.
She didn't think he was serious about like a serious relationship, I would assume.
And then they didn't talk and they were never going to talk again.
And then she was like, I'm not talking to him.
The whole season, whole season, whole season.
Then halfway through the season, those walls broke down.
Boom.
Sounds like some cheating.
Like if you're angry and you don't talk to them,
there's something that angered you more than being disappointed
that they're not sharing their emotions.
I don't even know that your story is true
because I don't know them.
But if you're never going to talk to somebody
and you dislike them so much
that you're in the same place
and you're like, I'm never talking to you.
That's usually not a, we're going to break up
because we're not on the same page.
Yeah, I don't know.
I have no idea if these people are.
I don't either.
I know people I never even heard of.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's hope.
Morgan already did the tattoo.
Oh, Eddie?
So bad news.
the lady from the
Cole play Jumbotron
she's filed for divorce
The lady on the Jumbotron
with the CEO
The HR woman right?
Yeah
Kind of saw that coming though
It was so embarrassing for everybody
Like everywhere they go
She had to be
You're her
And then imagine him even when she's not around
Like even if they don't say anything
They're like oh dude
That's the dude
Who's wife was with the CEO
I know he had a family
Did she have a family?
I think she had a boyfriend
Or a husband
Husband, because she had a husband because she was filing.
Well, I don't know that, but I didn't know she had kids.
Oh, gotcha.
I haven't seen anything about kids.
I know he had, like, a few kids.
That guy, the guy of the woman, the HR woman,
everywhere he went.
People were talking about him, even if he didn't know they were.
I've seen a couple guys around town and be like,
you look just like the guy from the Coldplayed Jambutron.
Oh, the CEO guy?
Just kind of that look where, like, you look like a lot of dudes that I see around.
I did watch the Catfish show.
Oh, you did the unknown number?
Yeah, and so I know tomorrow's Tuesday.
reviews day and we'll put that up. I feel like this is... It's bigger than that. I'll review it
quickly tomorrow on the radio part of the show. And also if you, and I'll say this, I already knew
what happened. I didn't even know I knew what happened. I remember the new story. So I watched it,
but I thought, because Caitlin goes, we're watching it. I'm watching it. She goes, I already know,
I already know who it is. And I'm like, okay, great. Don't tell me. And she's like, yeah,
I remember the news story. And I was like, okay, don't say anything. So I tried to convince myself I didn't
know, even though I was watching it. So,
If you don't want to know, even though they've spoiled it everywhere.
Just on the people, Instagram, they like put the person on the front of it.
It's crazy how they're not being spoiler-sensitive about this at all.
So if you don't want to hear, you can leave the room or you can turn us off or you can move on from the podcast because I'm going to talk about it.
And I wasn't going to, but they spoiled, it's spoiled on the front image of everything.
Oh, so we're going to talk about it?
Yeah.
But I'm giving everybody an opportunity to turn us off.
Okay, let me know when.
Does anyone want to leave the room?
Does everybody remember the story?
I remember the story in real life.
I remember it now, yes.
Because it didn't happen that long ago.
Who watched it?
I did.
I did.
Okay.
Did you already know, Mike?
Yeah, we talked about it on the show.
Okay.
So I knew all about it.
But so this whole thing is called the wrong number.
Unknown number.
It's about a high school girl just being terrorized.
And boy.
Yeah, but the girl was being terrorized.
The boy was kind of a side character in it, right?
I mean, they were going after the girl.
For him.
For sure.
Like, he's sort of like, who knew that getting a friend?
phone was going to ruin my life. For sure. I agree. Like it was tough for him too,
traumatizing, but it was mostly on her. Yeah. Because they were like, kill yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you don't like give them BJs, I'm gonna, I will.
What? Dude, it was, it was thousands of really bad text. Explicit, sexual, harmful.
How old was she? 15? 15? 13? 13. 13 or 14? And it happened for, what? And it happened
for two years. About, yeah. And now they're interviewing her. She's like 17, 18. But they also interviewed
her back a couple years ago too
and you can see the difference of when they were interviewing her
and when they start off
I don't know I'm just going to say who did it
it was a freaking mom
her mom. Her mom did her her and her mom was in the
documentary at the beginning which is why I'm trying to convince myself
that it wasn't the mom and I'm like oh maybe this is a whole different story
because her mom's like and I couldn't believe it and the numbers
were just coming but yeah
well so that's where I am with it
like even though I knew as well
then I was like well I guess
This isn't the story where it's the mom because the mom's a part of this documentary.
Because why in the world would she be a part of this documentary?
And then the way they edited how she was talking, they didn't include the part where she's admitting till the end.
So it totally worked.
And you thought, oh, the moms are working together to try to figure out who did it.
So I had convinced myself that this was a different story similar to you.
So it still was an enjoyable watch, even though I already knew.
And then I was like, gosh, you know, sometimes my friend and I,
we're texting about how sometimes we feel like, you know, we're not doing our best as moms.
And I'm like, we are thriving.
We are so good.
Like, we're like moms of the year compared to this mom.
Like, I don't even understand how she did that to her daughter.
And why?
So, a couple reasons.
Mostly, very mentally ill.
Very.
And that's where I kind of, the empathetic part of me goes.
Correct.
And she went to jail for a couple years.
The part of me goes, man, I hate discarding people just because they're mentally ill.
And she's mentally ill, right?
She needs help.
Especially now, and even in the documentary,
she compared it to like everybody makes mistakes.
Terrible.
Like, you can't, yep.
She's like, other people have committed crimes
and they just weren't caught.
Maybe you drunk drive.
And I'm like, you should stop talking.
Yeah, you're not making yourself sound any better.
Yeah, very mentally ill.
At the very end, she didn't even feel like she was sorry about it.
That was what was so, like, appalling to me.
It was like you spent time in jail.
You would think that she's gotten some mental health help or anything.
and she just, there was no remorse.
She faked having a job after she'd been fired for like two years.
And I'm thinking, how did they even get money?
Because if you're working, quote unquote, you're bringing in a check.
But she lied about having a job for two years.
I know they did the insurance thing where they got a little money from a fake lightning strike.
But that's not enough money.
No, that's why they were getting evicted and had to bounce around.
And she handled the bills.
So he didn't, I guess he wasn't paying attention.
Maybe whatever she was bringing in, you know.
everybody lost in this
everybody lost
so heartbreaking
even the one girl that like
well who is it
Chloe yeah poor thing like she got accused
her parents are bullies
yeah they were very bullied
she's not like their energy at all yeah no
they lost in this too
because I still felt bad that she got
like it didn't help her
I agree I agree with
she might be bullying because of yeah
like well her parents are kind of that way
and then self-esteem stuff
and then this certainly doesn't help
they were the biggest bullies
And their daughter was just a bully because she was a bully.
But that's why she was accused because she was such a bully at school.
She was like, I didn't do it.
And they're like, well, you threw carrots at our heads.
And she was like, yeah, but I didn't do this.
And she didn't do it.
And she didn't do it.
But I'm not even saying her.
Her parents were such bullies.
They did not come across well on that show.
But yeah, the mom did it.
So where are they now?
Are their daughter and mom like?
They don't talk.
Does she not able to talk to her kid until their kid's 18?
But the kid, it seems like she wants to.
The kid wants to.
And then lunchwarks get this.
Whenever the cops went to the house and busted her, the daughter was there.
And the daughter's just sitting there in shock.
You can tell.
Like, she's just, like, in shock.
And the mom is, like, trying to comfort her.
That part was bothering me so much that the mom was like, I now have to.
It was just manipulative, too.
Like, I'm going to comfort my daughter.
Yes, I did these horrible things to her.
You're looking for rational actions from an irrational person, though.
Oh, my God.
Correct.
I am.
I know.
It just was crazy to me that, like, this daughter, like, now her,
and she's also dependent on.
upon her mom because her mom was doing the evil things to her, but then
comforting her at the same time. So then she's just
emotionally so confused as to like how to respond to her mother
during this difficult time. He was there. He's custody over?
Then they seem to have a good relationship. And he's normal.
Yeah. Yeah. I feel really bad for her. Still married the same time? Yeah.
They're not anymore. They're divorced now. And he was like,
you need to get out. You have to leave. Yeah. She has, it was
awful. I read an article too outside of the documentary that was written
months ago. And apparently a lot of people in the town had
thought it was the mom.
Because they knew the mom.
But the boy's mom was like
in, like it was like no way she would never. No way. She couldn't do that. No.
But.
I don't know that. If you heard the theory of the mom, I know she's not mentally well,
but also that she was like obsessed with the boyfriend. Like the boy.
I don't know if that's, I mean, that's a great. I mean, she was like wanting to go to his
games in Florida. Yeah. And the mom had the boy. The boy.
The boy's mom had to say, no, you're not coming.
But she just had that unhealthy obsession with a teenage boy.
Yeah, her brain's broken.
Yeah.
You know the part that really, like, just struck me was when they asked her about, like,
saying, tell your daughter to kill herself.
And she was like, no, I didn't.
I knew she wouldn't.
And I'm like, you knew she wouldn't?
What?
Like, that was at the moment where my whole body just, like, couldn't understand or comprehend
what we were even watching.
The comparison they made, I think it's called Muchhausen, I forget how to say that,
where there are parents who will make their kids sick because they want the attention as like the
carekeeper, that's kind of what this was, they think.
Isn't that like Gypsy Rose?
That was kind of a gypsy rose.
I don't remember that story as much.
She killed her mom, right?
Yeah, but because her mom did that to her.
Really?
Get her sick?
Yeah.
So, yeah, so that parent is like wanting the attention and the adulation and for like raising,
it becomes their identity.
So I think, or they think,
which led me to think, because it's not my theory,
that that's a bit of what it was.
Like she was the one comforting her daughter,
like she got her daughter's love.
And also that was what she was known for
as the one that was to protect her.
And it became much of her identity.
Yeah.
And yep, I hope she gets a lot of help.
And she deserved to go to jail
and she deserves to be punished.
But I just, I don't like discarding people
because they're ill.
This is not somebody who was doing something
for intention of mean.
This is somebody who's broken.
And it sucks.
It sucks for the daughter.
She's going to be traumatized.
the rest of her life, the rest of her life. I know, I guess I was just thinking after like that
jail time and then the time that has passed and whenever this was filmed and her being
interviewed that maybe there would be some intervention for help and I don't know that mentally
we were seeing that yet and I have a hope that maybe she can get help but you can intervene but it
doesn't mean you accept and it doesn't even mean that it's the right kind of intervention.
I know. So she's not 18 yet. The daughter? No, not yet. It sucks for every. It's so terrible.
That's awful. It's so. Do you? Do you? Do you?
Do you believe that she wasn't the initial?
No, I believe it was her from the start.
Yeah.
And she worked in IT because it limits in her mind how bad of a person she is.
Okay.
Because somebody was doing at the beginning and the mom was like, no, I then started later
because I wanted to find out who it really was because if kids would talk about it,
that doesn't check for me.
And the mom worked in IT.
She did and she knew an app that could change the phone numbers.
And so all they did was go.
Listen, we had a stalker issue.
is what we did. We got with the FBI
and they tracked the number. They were using an app. We found
exactly who it was. We have exactly who it is. We've got
documents that are tracked
all the back to the IP address. And so
we're just like, we have them so we can release them if we ever want to.
That's what they had. And the cop went to the house
and was like, hey,
we tracked this. And it all kept coming back
to you. And then the mom didn't go
like, it wasn't me. She was like, hmm.
Okay.
Well, I thought, well, shoot, she just handed over her phone.
Like, she's busted. But then she's
had another phone. Yeah, they were like, it's, yeah, she was like it's in the building outside.
Yeah, so, compelling show. What's it called?
A unknown number. A catfish story or something? And then she didn't have a job. She had all day to
harass them and she would send like so many texts all day long. I feel terrible for that kid
because they're always going to have this. And I hope she's able to somehow get a relationship
back with her mom because of her mom. I hope there's something that they can, they can save.
They can preserve out of that. It won't ever be normal.
feel terrible for the dad.
The dad is working, trying to create a living,
having to, he didn't know it, pick up a slack for the whole family.
And then he finds out, one, his wife wasn't working.
I think he kind of thought it was the wife too,
because when they told him he was most shocked by the fact that she wasn't working.
Because I'm like, sir, at your wife, he's like, you don't have a job?
You've been lying?
You need to go.
Call your parents.
I think that's where she's living now in Detroit with her parents, the mom.
Oh, so the dad thought she was going to work every day?
Mm-hmm.
Or working remotely too.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Y'all ever feel bad watching these documentaries?
Because it's entertaining, but then you're like, gosh, this is someone's life.
And as soon as we're done, we move on with our life, but they have to keep going on with this life.
But I mean, I think that for them, does like the daughter, do they get paid for that?
I'm sure they get money, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you wouldn't do that for free because it's not like a public interest.
Yeah.
I am so curious why the mom did it, though.
even though if there was money involved.
They were going to do it without her.
So you think maybe you can gain a little bit of sympathy
or you can tell your side that possibly limits how you come off,
how negative you come off.
But that didn't help.
And money.
Yeah.
Yeah, it helped a little bit.
Not that you felt sympathy for her as for why she did it
because you hate it and you hate her for it.
But you could tell she's mentally ill.
Like there is absolutely something broken in her brain.
And she should be punished.
she should be put somewhere to try to rehabilitate that
or kept from people if she can't rehabilitate that
to protect herself and to protect others.
But outside of that particular instance with her daughter,
that's all we know, though.
I know that's all we know.
Okay, that's true, I guess.
But outside of that, other way, she had a,
well, from what we know.
She was coaching his track team.
I don't, I think she was completely mentally ill.
But people spoke of how she was kind
and would be there for you and would show up for you.
Searleuric.
Ehe.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, that's just a master manipulator.
It's really on top of the mental health.
Yeah, big time.
All right.
That's what's up.
Oh, man.
It definitely made me feel lucky.
It's one of those shows like I wouldn't recommend.
Nobody wins.
Nobody wins on that show.
What's that?
Zachary show you guys always say?
Oh, don't watch that one.
You haven't watched it?
No, I haven't.
Oh, you should.
You should.
You should watch that.
Okay, but this is one of those.
I don't recommend it.
I do not recommend it.
I do not recommend.
it, but you should watch it.
But this is like one of those.
Like, I don't recommend.
I don't recommend it.
I think it's on like max or something.
You should watch it.
Stay far away from.
You should watch it.
Yeah.
All right.
We're done.
Thank you.
We will see you guys tomorrow.
We'll try to get in our first round, Jenga today.
I'll let you guys set that up real quick.
Ramundo and Amy.
We'll go first.
All right.
There you go.
Thank you.
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