The Bobby Bones Show - MON PT 2: Bobby’s Hot Take On Vacation + Amy Had To Leave The Show Early + Morgan Got To Live Out Her Dream + Lunchbox Hated London + Eddie Thinks He's Like Carrie Underwood

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

Bobby shares why he thinks that being in water at the beach or pool is stupid. Bobby shared what he did over vacation. Mike D talked about going to New York to see Wicked for the first time. Bobby shared why Amy had to leave the show early. Morgan shared she finally got to live out her dream. Eddie shared how he tried to live as if he was retired during vacation. Lunchbox shared why he didn’t like London after going there only because he got a cheap flight. Raymundo talked about his staycation and what has changed about pool parties. Eddie shared what he and Carrie Underwood have in common after this weekend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, if there's something to do, meaning, like we went last week, we spent a few days, East Tennessee and the mountains. And there was a water slide and had fun in the water slide. And then it's like, okay, get out of the water. So you needed a slide. to have fun in the water. I just needed an activity. I think the beach is stupid.

Now, I also know I'm in the minority. You are. Like, this is a very unpopular opinion. It's the only time that I have ever got into my swimming pool for the sake of just being in the pool was because Kailin's family was over. And it was her mom and dad, brother-in-law, Kailin's sister, kids. Everybody was there. And so they wanted to be in the pool.

And, you know, mostly I just hung out on the side of the pool. But I did get in and we threw... nephew around. He's like two, so we just were like chunking him in the air. And that was all fun. And, but I got in the water to do that. I didn't get in the water because I thought the water was fun. It was the only time I've ever got in my pool for like, uh, recreation. I've got into swim and workout. Like I have like an ankle injury that bothers me, a shoulder injury that bothers me. And I found swimming, it's not super bad on my joints. But I've never gotten in the pool one time, not one time that we have at our house to just swim. Like for fun. Never. Just not fun for me. It's

not fun for me. If I just wanted to be wet, I would get wet. I would just take a bath. What about like a hot, hot day and like, oh, it'd be nice to just jump in the pool. Air conditioning. And then I don't have to, like, clean off because there's like chemicals in the pool. Yeah, yeah. And I have to go and take another wet to get rid of my other wet. Oh, shower after you're done. Yeah. I never do that. I have to. Well, you don't have to do with anything. What does it have to do with anything? Because you get chlorine in your hair. Oh, okay. You have to wash my hair. I thought it was just like chlorine to get off your body. Like, I don't do that crap. You smell like. I don't do that.

too, though, because you smell like chlorine. And sometimes when I get in the pool, I'm like, I don't need to shower. Exactly. Like, I'm, I just bathed. No, no, because again, there's too many chemicals in the pool. Like, my wife would never let me lay in the bed covered in chemicals. So it's the only time I've ever been in the pool. And I did get in the pond because there was a water slide, but I never stayed in the pond.

Yeah. I think being in water, to me, very overrated. Couldn't be more overrated, actually. Dude, I love it. There's nothing better than, like, seeing, like, if you go to a hotel, first, thing I do, let me check out the pool. And I go look at the pool and like, oh, I'm jumping in that pool as soon as I get my trunks on it. And I understand if you have kids and you need something for them to do. No, no, just for me. Even when we used to like tour, dude, I would

like see if the hotel we were seeing it had a pool because I was going to get in it. I understand it's a very unpopular opinion. But then you have to go get wet to get rid of the wet you just got. And I feel like that's such a time consumer. So we were gone sort of last week. Like we didn't work. We take two weeks every summer. And so our second week was last week, but we did new shows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So the only reruns you got was Thursday Friday. But we were off work. We went to the mountains in East Tennessee, like I said, with Caitlin's family. They actually came in on Sunday of last week and they left yesterday. So they were there for a week. Were you on a boat or something? We were never on a boat. Why? I saw somebody post something like you

You were water skiing or... We did a... I saw you're playing chess. We did a slide. Okay. So you're on a slide and that's it. Yeah, no boat. We did water.

The pond I'm talking about. The pond. We were at the pool another day and I was like, I don't want to get the pool. Caitlin's dad is 63 and was doing backflips off the diving board. That's legit. Did you see the video by any chance? Yeah, I saw it. He's 63.

Still has abs and is doing back flips and... It's crazy. That's amazing. The genetics that that family has. Like my wife. it's genetics? Oh. To have abs at 63?

It's a big part of it. But I'm just saying they all do. Like my wife, you just, you know my wife. She is a, she's an A plus athlete. Yeah. And without even really caring or trying, she naturally gifted. Her sister, state championship basketball player, A plus, her brother played college basketball. Caitlin's brother played college basketball.

He's like 6, 6, 6, 6, 7. Yeah, that's cool. It's crazy. And he's 63 years old doing, not just back, flips like full tuck your knee back flips so but we did that it's very much dominated in a good way uh for the most part by the kids of katelyn's sister oh yeah because there's a baby that's six months old the baby never cries well that's awesome unbelievable yeah it's unheard of it's the greatest baby i've ever seen like ever even if the baby's hungry nothing um this is a hungry cry for that baby

Yeah. They'd give them a little something. Yeah. They'd give them a little something. And she's good. That's awesome. The baby never cried. The two-year-old is like Tasmanian devil.

It's a boy. And I don't know if it's a boy-girl thing or what the deal is. But the two-year-old... He's two? Yeah. It's hilarious. But he just like runs... I mean, he's all over the place.

What do they call that terrible twos? Yeah. So did that. We got a house over there for a few days. We stayed at our house for a few days. Manage the dog. which is difficult because Stanley, my bulldog, the most loving dog in the history of dogs, however,

will run through things to play with them. So, yeah, it was good, and we're back. Mike D, you went to New York. You went to go watch Wicked. It's awesome, right? It was awesome. I've never been to Broadway, never seen Wicked. I feel like I changed as a person watching that.

It's an excellent show. Because I love the movie, but seeing them do it live where they can't mess up, they sing it perfectly, all the production is just amazing. How was Arianna? I picture in my head. I was like, oh, yeah, look, she's down there. I was like, oh, it's a different actor. I haven't seen the movie.

I love the play, but you'd only seen the movie and not seen the play. Yeah, so like the first act is basically the first movie, or I guess the first part of it is the first movie intermission, and then the second part is it going to be the second movie. So now I can't wait for the movie. Oh, that's cool. I didn't know that. And this is a good time to go to New York because it's not freezing cold.

Pretty odd. Is it hot, though? Yeah. I'm okay with that. The weird thing about New York is because it's not, Again, I never lived there. I've just been there enough. Oh, I'd love to live there.

Is that a lot of people in New York don't have air conditioners because it's not really that hot that long. Yeah, there's no reason to put an air conditioner. So if it's really hot, people are just like, this sucks. Yeah, a lot of the restaurants and stores we went into just didn't have any ACs. It would go in it to be so hot? Because why would you invest in a H-Fact, a full system of any kind if you don't have to use it but a month of the year? Same with cars, right? Like a lot of people don't own cars there?

Oh, in the city. Yeah, unless they're driving in. If you live in the city, for the most part, unless you want to pay a national economical fee, you don't have a car. Because you can walk everywhere or take public transportation. And I've seen some of the garages there with a crazy where like you just, they lift the car up and they put it up in a slot. So are you seeing that? Yeah. That's crazy. I've seen that. I've seen that with boats here. Oh, that's true. Amy had to leave by the way. Amy was sick. She had to leave. And she kind of, it was in a haste. And if it's in a haste, and if it's in a haste, she texted me finally. She was like, maybe I shouldn't read it. But what do you mean in a haste? She was out quick. Fast. Yeah. Hey, you don't know the word?

I've heard the word. I just never heard it being used. She said, went to bathroom, threw up, headed back home. That was it. I texted her. I said, if you're sick, don't come in tomorrow. Maybe I should be warmer, but I don't think she needs me to be warmer at this point in our relationship. What would be warmer?

Oh, hey, I hope you feel better. I think all that's understood. But I was just like, don't push yourself to come back to work. I don't even think to be warm. I think, how can I be most effective, the question? quickest. Okay. So, but how are you at home with that? Because that's where I have a little bit of a challenge. Different. But I've had to learn how to be different. My bedside manner is different at home because my wife has expressed to me how important it is to treat her like a human and not like we're in a

lab. Okay. So don't you think it's important to treat everyone else outside your house? No, because we were in the middle of doing stuff here on the show. And so. Because I understand what you're saying. Like, dude, just get to the point. Like, hey, go home. You don't feel good. Whatever. But my wife also has pointed out that I should probably be a little warmer when I say like, are you hurt? You're not bleeding. Get up. Professional setting.

And those are four boys you have. Correct. And we were in the middle of stuff. We were recording some other stuff. And Amy left. And I did the countdown. And I was like, I feel like, don't feel like you have to run.

I felt like that was warm of me to be like, don't push yourself tomorrow. Like stay. I feel like my warmth was in that message. Right. I'm with you, dude. Did you want him to walk into the car or what? Well, I could have been like, hope you feel better. I didn't put that on.

And that's one of my wife's saying. Stuff like that. Like, oh, man. knows I hope she feels better because I need her to come back to work. But they still want to hear it, right? Yeah. Again, again, dude, I'm with you 100%. My wife is telling me to work on this.

Yeah. Well, maybe you should because I've worked on mine at home for sure. Like tell my boys like, I'm sorry you're hurting. Gosh, that must not feel very well. Morgan, I saw a bear. I got to see one. You saw one too? Yeah.

Yeah. I saw one and thought of you. It was probably like a teenager in the woods. Teenage bear? Yeah. Well, because you're out in the mountain mountains. And I'm assuming, what color was your bear? It's a black bear.

That's what you want to see. Yeah. Ground bears will eat you. We were in grizzly bear territory, but we didn't see any. We just saw the black bear. So I saw you, who did you go with? You went with friends and your boyfriend? Yeah, I went to...

And your dog? No. The dog was not there. He's got all of her girlfriends. Go ahead. Nope. So we went to the new epic universal in Orlando, and I did that with my boyfriend. We also went to Disney.

And then came back for a day. And then I went on a girl's trip to Bozeman, Montana. Oh, you did two trips. Yeah. That's the one I thought she was going to Brazil, remember? Belize. Or Belize. Man, you are syncing it up.

Do you know what that is? No. A sink? No. I mean, I know what a sink is. No. S-I-N-K? Like I'm sinking things?

Do some context here. I mean, you said, like, I'm sinking like together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but just S-I-N-K. So you're not sinking down. But if you went on two trips. Yeah. And I say, man, you are full sink right now. Oh, like I put myself through it?

Mm-mm. Because that'd be fun. both would be fun I think both trips would be fun I'll sink right now a sink you're a sink I have everything in the sink

no is it an acronym yes leave the word sink out of it like I mean not the word but leave the picture of a sink in the kitchen or the bathroom out of it it has nothing to do with an actual we'll sink it is an acronym

thank you guys solo single is person individual not you got the first word solo single Single.

Single. Single. Interpol. I don't have a lot of eyes. Interpol. Intercourse. Single intercourse. Ray, do you know it?

Single income, no kids. Oh, I call them dinks. I guess that's true because I'm not married. Dual income. Deep would be dual or double. Yeah. Single income, no kids. Yeah.

You get to do that because you have your own money. Yeah, that's the best part. You got no kids? Yeah. I love having no kids. Lots of money. Eddie. I'm nothing to say to that.

It was like you can't retire. Dude, it's tough. It's tough over here. Like, she's talking about her vacation. You know what my vacation was? I did nothing. Like, I drove the kids to school, dropped them off. I did play a little golf.

Played golf. And then I pick him up from school, taking to practice. The last, because we take two weeks every summer, the last vacation, I did nothing. I stayed home the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, you're a sink. No. He's a dink.

He's a dink. Whatever that is. We're a. Yeah. No, I was going to do dogs, butt dogs, BD. Oh, yeah, yeah. One dog that's very expensive because he's always sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, so just kids. Oh, me? Yeah, dude, nothing. I mean, I try to visualize my... To what? In visualize? Not a word. Visualized.

There you go. I tried to visualize my retirement life. I was like, all right, if I was retired right now, this is a lot. how I would live it because I didn't, you know, I wasn't coming to work. So I'd wake up early, make the kids breakfast, take them to school, drop them off, go to the golf course, squeeze in a little tea time. I'd play for three, four hours, and then I'd go home, get a little lunch, pick them up. It was kind of cool, dude. The only thing I didn't do is fish, which I would do in my retirement. But if you were retired, your kids wouldn't be in school. Right. That's the

thing. Like retirement is not having to run errands every day, like take your kids to school. That would be terrible because then you're busy every day. Retirement is where you don't have to do anything. Oh, I think retirement's just when you don't work. Well, that would be, uh, that would not have to work anymore. That would not have a job. Well, that's a difference. Retirement. You're probably older. You have retirement saved up. Your kids aren't 10. Yeah. I know you have kids older and kids younger, but your kids aren't 10. Um, so you don't have that because usually when you retire, you're 65, 60s, yeah, you know, unless you're out, but you know, but I've seen like, I've seen like some athletes, you know,

who like don't play ball anymore and they just kind of like, they're retired because they made millions. Again, that is an abnormality too. Now, that would be awesome, wouldn't it? That's awesome. They just sit around and they just, like, you wonder what they do all day. Like, my wife says one of them, like, brings donuts to the teachers every morning. One of, like an athlete. Yeah, an athlete. Takes brings donuts to the teachers every morning. Like, because why? He's a millionaire. Doesn't have anything to do. And they love it. They're like, oh, here he comes. He's bringing donuts to to all the teachers. That's cool. Do I know the person? Yeah, yeah. You do I know him, know him? Or do I know of him? I don't know if you've met him, but you know of him. You not want to say who it is?

No, I don't. Okay. I don't. What does he look like? Fair enough. He's a big dude. Lunchbox, what did you do? I went to London.

Whoa, sink. No, there are two. Oh, dude. But they also have kids. Oh, right, right. And it was $400 round trip for each ticket. Like, it was cheaper to go there than to go to Vegas or to Texas or anywhere. You're looking at tickets.

It's like $900 to go somewhere like in California and pops up $400 to go to London. So we went to London, man. Not London, Texas. No, London, England. How was it? London sucks. I really liked it. I don't really get London.

The food kind of sucks, but I like the city because they have things that were like from the 1,200s, like 500 years, 700 years, 1,000 years before we even existed. That's amazing. They have buildings randomly sitting next to new buildings that are that old. What did you not like about it? It's a lot of you just walk and look at old buildings and it was like, all right, cool, great. Like, I saw an old building. And you walk to these to like, what are the palace, the palace, the Buckingham Palace,

or whatever. See the guards? Yeah, but they're way away. Like, they're not like... Oh, you can't get close to them? No, they're behind a fence, like, way over there. So it's like all these videos of people staying... Sometimes they're out.

You just didn't go at the right time. They're outside the gates? Have you not seen people standing with the guards? No, that's why I was like, oh, they're full of crap. That doesn't happen because they're not outside the gates. Like, there's a big gate around the thing. And they stand in front of the house, but you can't get anywhere close to them. Different guards.

But there were guards that come out. Oh, well, they're... There was, I mean, just people staying there and it was like, wow, okay, cool. It's a castle. You can't, you can't, you can't pay to go inside of it. No one lives there. So is it really that cool? No one lives there?

No. In Buckingham Palace? No one lives there. I thought like the prince and, I think they, it's, I think it's kind of like the white, like the, I think there's a quarters where people live there in that area, but they may not live in that part, right? I guess. And so that's why I was like, so they don't even live there. And then we went to where, um, I'm the worst on British, I'm,

what is the other ones that? What is the other ones, the ones that are still in part of it? William and Kate, there's a different castle they supposedly used to live at, but they keep an apartment there. Yeah, right, there's a gift shop in there. I mean, there's no way they keep an apartment there. It's all turned into a gift shop. It's like, how lame is that?

And so I just didn't, I didn't think London was that cool. Yes, the old buildings were cool, but it just was like, all right, there's not much really to do. The big bin, it's just a clock that stands there. It's tall. Cool. Buckingham. Palace has been the official residence of the United Kingdom's monarch since 18377. The palace has five floors, 775 rooms, including 19 state rooms, 52 royal and guest bedrooms, 92 offices,

and a surgical room. Oh, that's cool. As well as 40 acres of gardens. No one from the current royal family lives there full time. But as he said, there's an apartment somewhere. Yeah, you can get you a free t-shirt. Gift shop. You can get some hot chocolate or some coffee and they have a cafe. Did you get on one of those big buses, the double-decker buses? No. So people do live there, but not in the main building. Okay. Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip lived in the private apartments on the north side of the palace. They're both dead though now, right?

I don't know Prince Philip. That's a dad. Yeah, he's dead. I know him from that show, the crown. So they did live there. But when they died, I guess that's when... I guess what's the other guy's name now? Charles?

Yeah. King Charles sounds weird. Where does he live? I have no idea. I think he's like the first one that doesn't live there. Then we went to the one where... I typed down where does King Charles live. Guess what it says? London.

Thank you. We saw where Princess Diana used to live and there's a garden there with like a statue because she used to talk to the gardeners. I mean, but the castle looked like it needed a redo. Need a new roof. Need to be power washed. It was dirty. Did you go to Abbey Road like where the Beatles crossed the street and stuff?

I don't care about Abby Road. Okay. I'm not really. So why did you go to London then? Because it sounds like all the things that it's known for, the history. Because it's $400. Because it was cheap. Yeah.

I mean, it was $400. It's a long trip for just $400, though. What do you mean? Like, I mean, you could have spent $400 closer and done something you liked. No, no. Like, trying to go to like California was like $900 a ticket. You go to Chattanooga. Well, that's, we can go there any weekend.

Did you think it was like going to be cooler than it was? Like, when you booked the trip to London, where you're like, this is going to be awesome. And then you were. just disappointed by it or were you just like this is probably going to suck but I'll spend $400 on it. Yeah, what was your expectation? I think my wife

more thought London and so I was like okay I mean everybody talks about London. You always see those hard rock Cafe London shirts that people always have. I really don't always see them but I understand I understand the point. And so we went and I was just like I don't really get it. I just don't

understand it's just another big city. What don't you get like it's just a city Right? It's literally just a, it's a big city With a lot of culture Like there was just a big city And like we saw The jewel I guess the jewels

You see Big Ben? It's just a clock Well everything's just a something No no but listen What could there have been though For you to enjoy it? I don't know Naked women

Right Like I don't understand No no Like Big Ben was just a clock Okay It was fine Was it working? Yeah

Okay But there was other clocks on old churches that looked cooler than that big bend. And there are buildings that are bigger than the Empire State Building. And buildings that look big. But Empire State Building is cool because it's been there. It's historical. Yeah, that's what I didn't understand the clock. I was like, what's the big deal?

It's a big clock in the middle of an area. But there's other clocks that looked a lot cooler to me on old churches that was like, man. Did you go to a show? We went to a show, like a Broadway show. They have their own version of Broadway. I forget what it's called. I think it's called London Way or something. Makes sense.

Yeah, we did. We went to Titanic. So you did go to a show. Did you take your kids to this? No. Oh, was just you and your wife? Yeah. Oh, I thought you should have enjoyed it more then.

I thought the kids were keeping you from enjoying stuff. No, no, no, no. The West End is what it is. And it was like a story about the Titanic. It was a Titanic museum. Like, and they were talking about it and they're doing a tour and Celine Dion interrupts the tour and says, let me tell you what really happened on the Titanic. I was there.

and it was a story about that. But she wasn't there. Oh my God, Eddie. It's a written, whatever, play or whatever. Oh, got it. You didn't like it? No, it was funny. The play was funny.

My wife liked it a lot more because they made musical jokes, like about other musicals or whatever, and I had no idea what the jokes were. But, yeah, it was funny. And the girl was really good that did Sling Deon because she did like facial expressions and was like, oh, you guys are the best crowd. And just like, I thought she was funny

because you see clips to Sling Deon. beyond, that's how our facial expressions are. But yeah, I didn't think London was all that cool. Sounds like you didn't know what to do when you got there. Well, I mean, what do you mean? Well, I went and looked at things. I walked through, I mean, they had some cool, they had a lot of parks. Did you go to a museum?

No, we didn't go to a museum. Did you do the subway, the underground? Yeah, we did that. Did the tube. They called the tube. Oh, the tube. Yeah, come on. Is that what they called the tube?

Yeah. What's the luge? Oh, luge. No, the luge is an event where you get. on and you go to the ice. The Louvre? That's a museum in Paris. Paris, got it.

It's where the Mona Lisa is. Okay. See, I would have been disappointed if I went to London looking for the Luge. Or Louvre. Either one, you'd be disappointed. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.

Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.

This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so much, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbance. pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing.

Gregalespian and Michael Maranini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Ray, what did you guys do? We did a staycation and then didn't leave the house. Anything, any news, notes, events? Staycation was great. We dropped a hotel penthouse downtown for the weekend. Oh, you didn't stay at your own place. You came here. Right, Nashville.

Got it. But you said you never left the house. That's why I was confused. So he said, then he didn't leave the house. Oh, right. Transition word. Got it. But the staycation originally was awesome.

We did a pool party. We had the stand-up to cancer event that aired on, what was it, Friday night. It was a huge nationwide thing. That was cool. Laura got to be a part of it. And it was only about, I'd say, 2,000 people in there. So it was pretty exclusive. It was like Jonas Brothers, Reese Witherspoon, Katie Couric, Brothers,

Brothers Osborne, Dan Shea. What was the deal with the pool party? The pool party? Pool parties have changed. I haven't been to one in a couple years. Now there's a guest list. Now you pay $50 a head. Now the girls don't wear anything for bottoms.

It's all thongs. Oh. Yeah. I thought it was like bare bottoms. Like what? If you're wearing coverage, you're overdressed. Wait, so where is this pool party? Hotel.

I don't really want to name it because I had some complaints as well. But what complaints? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Did you complain or did somebody complain about you? Well, no, I complained. Just because our friends had to get seated away from us, They were way too strict for something we paid for. And all of a sudden we pay for something and it doesn't even really get going.

The DJ didn't get there until four. And we paid for one. It says one. This feels very London-based. Like you didn't know what you were getting into. True. And then you got there and you're upset with what was there. Just didn't know the pool party.

I mean, people just play on their phones now. I mean, was the DJ really bringing us the music? I mean, I could have went to my old apartment pool party had been better than that one. It just really didn't seem like I needed to be playing. pay for that. Sounds to me like you don't like the water. And I totally feel that. Yeah. Yeah. No need to get in the water. Yep. Sounds like Vegas. It does sound like Vegas. Right? Like a Vegas pool. You have to pay for that. Everybody's in thongs. You're paying for it. Yeah. And they go, oh, if you leave your seat that somebody

else can grab it in 30 minutes. What? So I got to like... In 30 minutes. You're going to come back to your seat every 30 minutes? Well, if you got a drink and you're in the pool talking with people, sometimes you lose track of time. So I just got to keep one of my hands on the chair. What? Just weird stuff like that. It's like the hands on a hard body documentary. or they can't take their hand off the motorcycle or the car and whoever lasts the longest wins it. All right. But yeah, we dipped early on that.

And then the staycation, I really just wanted to make myself bored. I wanted to come back to work, ready to come back to work, and that's exactly what I did. I was so, I was like, this is brutal. I don't know if I can do retirement.

It was bad. That's crazy you guys think that way. Like, I could do nothing all day. Well, because my wife was still working. So she was working from home, and I'd wake up, and I'd be like, oh, my gosh. What am I? I got to find somewhere.

to go. I can't hear one more conference call. Like, I'm just going to go walk in the neighborhood by myself. Amelessly. I struggle with doing nothing. You don't. Love it. I can do nothing forever. For the rest of my life. What does that mean do nothing, though? No, no, I would do stuff. I just wouldn't work.

Like, the walk around the neighborhood, I'd love to do it. I would love to wake up in the morning, have my coffee, walk the neighborhood. Morning, Jim. Morning, Pam. The yard looks great. I would love that, and they'd be like, Eddie's awesome. He didn't do anything all day. He just comes and says hi. of me. It's like sometimes I see him

with his golf clubs. He goes somewhere for a little bit comes back. My yard would be perfect. Right, but don't you think sometimes people look down on you though? Because you're just walking the neighborhood. Who cares? See, when I was walking the neighborhood, I was like, man, those people really don't have a purpose. They're just walking and retired. There's a lady that, like,

it lives in my neighborhood. She doesn't work. Has a nice house, nice car. Not married. No kids. So we already have like this made-up thing that she's like, she won the lottery or something. Oh, you don't know how she got her money? I have no idea. But, like, I think the stories around that's kind of cool where people are like,

well, do you ever wonder, like, how she makes her money or how she can afford that house or not to work? I always wonder how people got their money. Yeah. It's always weird. Like, people that have a lot of money, like, what did you do? Mostly, I have found that most people in most, I'm going to do most. Most people that made their money through business in some way, either knew somebody that

got them a good job or they had money left to them or their family had something in a business. Like business. Arts, the exact opposite. There's the occasional rich person. It's just like a business. There's the occasional person that came from nothing and built their way up and started a business. But most, most aren't. In arts, it's mostly people who had no money who had nothing and came up. So if they were like a musician, I'll put an athlete in the art category as well. But yeah. I met a guy that invented some kind of bearing for like a week. wheel. Oh, man.

Then sold it to some company. Like, was the engineer? Yeah. And like that's, he's like, I stopped working when I was like 37. Yeah,

that's pretty cool. Like, that's amazing. And I think I could retire now if I really wanted to. You should, dude. You should. You would,

I think you would discover a whole new you. I don't want to know that. Like I get a lot of joy out of, and this job has changed a lot in the past few years, especially like how the company wants me to do all these different things now because it's all about monetizing this radio show podcasts but I think I just like to build stuff

I don't know that's fun to me like like Legos like what do you mean? No like shows like even shows that I don't do so I think I enjoy that's cool I enjoy that Yeah but that's I mean I got a lot of stuff to say Can't you do that kind of in the backseat? What do you mean? Or you kind of just show up and be like here do this show I need structure I like structure I like to build my own structure

You like waking up I hate it. That's what I'm saying. I hate waking up. It's the worst. That's the worst. I hate waking up by appointment. That's the only thing that I like about vacation is that I can sleep.

How late were you waking up? The first time, six, 6.30, which is not, doesn't feel good. But the second time, 930 or 10. Let's go. Because I'll wake up and know that I can't go right back to sleep. So wake up, eat a little something. Walk around for a second. Lay back down, go back to sleep.

That's awesome. That I like. That's my favorite part about it. You do that with your in-laws? Oh, yeah, I do now. You just wake up late? Yeah. Where they've been up for like four hours and you're like,

don't give a crap. That's good. Not that I don't care about them. I mean, they know where they are. They know the way around. Yeah, I guess I just always feel a little bad like, oh, the son-in-law that wakes up after everyone else. They also know I have a crazy schedule that I wake up butt crack early every day. And I think they're kind of rooting for me to sleep.

They want that. Yeah. The only weird part is if I don't turn the alarm off. I know they wake up and they can't leave the house because I set the alarm. And if I don't wake up late, they can't get out. I'll look and there's a text from three hours ago that said, is they going to turn the alarm off? And no one has. So they're just trapped in the house.

So that's a thing. Yeah, that's different. But, yeah, we're done. Sean Kingston was sentenced to three and a half years in prison after being convicted of a $1 million fraud scheme. Sean Kingston sings, you're just too beautiful girl You met him huh? Oh yeah long time ago

Suicidal Suicidal Dabado do da bado do do do do It was a $1 million fraud scheme Which he leveraged his fame To dupe sellers Into giving him luxury items

He never paid for I think his mom's in trouble too So like he just It's just people bought him stuff Kingston whose legal name is Kishon Paul Anderson and his mother were convicted in March by a federal jury of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and four counts of wire fraud.

He was sentenced to five years in prison. I would like for this to be broken down in a way that I could understand it because I understand, let me just ask my assistant here. She's so helpful. She is. Hey, I hope you're having a good day. I have a question. In the news, Sean Kingston was sentenced to three and a half years in prison,

and it says for a $1 million fraud scheme. Can you explain like I'm five what exactly? he was doing. Internet's bad. Sorry, go ahead. No problem at all. So basically, if we put it in like your five terms, Sean Kingston kind of pretended he was going to pay for really fancy things,

like expensive jewelry or luxury stuff, but then he didn't actually pay for them. He used the fact that he was famous to sort of trick people into handing over those things, and that added up to about a million dollars worth of stuff. And that's why he got in trouble and has to go to prison for a few years. Okay. So basically he would say, I got to give it to me and I'll be sure to pay you and then he just never did.

That's kind of what that sounds like. And people just came to collect and he didn't. Didn't have the money. I think he sent him fake invoices saying he paid for it. Like he had sent the money and had never sent it. It's like 11 here where we are. And I think the building starts to get on the internet crazy. Oh, people are like.

And that's why my assistant's like, Anybody watch the Anna Paulina Luna. Joe Rogan interview, because she's a congresswoman and she was talking about the stuff she had seen. Oh, man. I only watched it clips online. But Representative Anna Paulina Luna said during a Wednesday podcast episode with Joe Rogan, that lawmakers have seen evidence of interdimensional beings. Interdimensional.

What does that mean? Quote, I think they can actually operate through the time spaces that we currently have. And that's not something I came up with in my own. That's stuff based on stuff that we've seen. In February, she sent letters to the Secretary of State Mark Rubio, to Secretary of Defense, Pete Higgson and the S-CIA director requesting a briefing on all the records in their possession related to unidentified anomalous phenomena, which is basically UFOs, but they don't just fly. Now they go interdimensionally.

Based on testimony, she said, that would be based on witnesses that have come forward, but what I can tell you is that what we're told and they've seen things, and what I can tell you, without getting classified, there have been incidences that I believe are credible. people have reported there have been movement outside of time and space from the hill. You understand what that means? Yeah, because it's not people flying in from space. It's people, how would I explain this? There's a radio band.

Think of the old radios. You move the band, you see all the numbers, and you see that little line go through. All of that exists all around us. All the stations are all around us all the time. But you have to put that on an exact number in order to catch that frequency. And it's saying there are things in other frequencies that we can't see here that are here around us. And they can come into our frequency than we can see them. At the same time time length, not like stranger things where it's like another dimension.

No, that's exactly what it is. Oh, there is. I wouldn't say exactly like stranger things specifically, but that's exactly what they're saying. There are things that we can't see that are right in front of us because although we're all here at the same time, like the radio band. Yeah. If you're listening on 102.3, but also there's 96.7. they both are there, but you have to put that needle on one of them for it to hear that. But it's all there.

It's like Netflix. All those shows are there. All you have to do is go to one and hit that frequency to receive it. And that we're on one frequency and there are things on other frequencies that we can't see around us and that they know how to get to our frequency. Oh, so those could be the aliens. Well, alien is a word that little green men come out. Okay. I mean, it is crazy to think that like our internet waves and radio waves and everything's around us right now.

Our telephone, our phone signals, like all of that surround us right now, we can't see any of that. So, we can't see the air. What they're saying is just because we can't see it or smell it or hear it, doesn't mean it's not there. And that can be these beings that could take organic form or not. Yeah, the bean part. That's where it's like I get kind of lost. But yeah, I mean, I understand there are a lot of things that we can't see. That's a congresswoman saying that.

Yeah, but she's like just. She's what? I mean, it's just a politician. Yeah, that didn't mean she's smarter. That's not her running for office. But she has been. But she's just a person. But she has seen things that we're not allowed to see.

That's true. She has access to things that we don't have access to. Because she was elected to a place. She has access to things we have not been able to. You don't sign like a thing when you're out of office where you're like, you can't talk about that stuff. I would assume you have to be like, you can't reveal our secrets. Right. It depends.

She did that. She said, I can't say this other stuff because it's confidential. She did exactly what you're saying you can't do. Okay. But told us what she could say. Yes. She's also been like, and I've watched her do these panels where she talked. I won't spend too much time on this.

I'll just move on. of it. No, no, I'm interested. When they have to, like, testify to Congress. She's one of the main ones, if not the main one up there. Oh, I've probably seen her then. Taking into the questions. On TikTok. I'm going to read your story here. This is from Fox 35, Orlando. Florida man's cross that he was wearing saved his life from a stray bullet.

Quote, God is definitely real. Aidan Perry was at a friend's house when he was accidentally shot in the chest by a 40-caliber pistol in June. Perry was rushed to the HCA Florida Ocala Hospital taken to the operating room. he survived the gunshot wound. He was wearing his gold necklace with a cross pendant, which medics believe could have split the bullet, sparing his major organs from damage. The bullet entered Perry's chest exiting near his armpit.

Now, I believe God is definitely real, but I believe this is a very selfish thing to say. What part? That because a bullet hits his cross, that God's definitely real. Because what about all the people that were wearing something in a bullet went on their body and killed them? Does that mean God is not real?

No, it could be. It could be God's real, but they weren't wearing a cross. What are people that are wearing crosses and it hits near the cross but doesn't get the cross and it goes into the body and kills them? Does that mean God? No, it doesn't mean God's not real. I don't think this has anything to do with God picking this specific person to go,

well, since you're wearing a cross, I'm going to make sure it hits the cross and saves you because I'm going to show you I'm real. Because that means everybody that has died that's wearing a cross, according to this logic, God is not real. And I don't believe that, but I do believe it's selfish to say that. I wonder if that person... Because that's the reason. Yeah.

Because that means everybody who died. It's unfair to everybody who died. So that means everybody who didn't make it. It's like an athlete. It's like, I'd like to thank God. So did God root against the other team that lost? Does God even care? No.

No. No. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. Did you have the spread? Is God gambling on it? Don't know.

So whenever... Because you can believe, and I do, that God is real. don't think God picked some people to die that were a cross, some people that don't die to wear it cross because it hit this guy's cross. Well, what would be cool, though, is if this guy didn't believe in God, and then when this happened, he's just like, oh, my gosh, now I believe in God because it saved me. That's kind of cool. What about people who don't believe in God that get shot and die, or people that do believe

in God and get shot and die? Does that affect any under... Well, they're dead. I mean, whatever happens after, they're dead. I don't know, man. They know. I know what you're saying. I see what you're saying.

But I'd say it'd be pretty cool for this guy to believe in. like, ah, God. Well, he already believes in God because he has the cross necklace on. Yeah, but if he did, but... He could just be wearing it to look like Justin Bieber. Yeah. He could totally could. How big was this cross?

I don't know. I picture it like a clock. It was just a regular little... I pictured like Flame of Flaves clock. You're like, well, yeah, we all wore that big one. It was a small cross. Wow. And I'm happy that that bullet was fortunate enough to hit the cross.

And it basically, uh, it deflected off of it and went to another part of the body. Yeah, that's crazy. but by going well God saved me that means God has chosen not to save certain other people who got shot you said God is real

God is for sure real now so but the people that were shot does that mean God's fake my point is I don't think it has anything to do with that being real or fake yeah just yeah pretty fortunate

to hit the cross and that's why I wear 19 crosses I pull my shirt open it's just to protect myself from bullets dude just wear a bulletproof vest man kids took a joy ride in a train, a real train.

Like they stole it? They used YouTube to figure out how to drive it. Wow. Two teens were arrested in South Carolina last weekend after taking a train on a joyride. Authority said they figured out how to drive it on YouTube. It caused a derailment, though, and caused major damage. Okay, that's not good. They didn't know how to drive it well enough. That's crazy, though, that it would derail.

I would think it's just on a track. Like, you just go? Yeah, it seems like it would stay. You would think that. Like, do they steer it? Like, is there a steering wheel on a train? Because I've never been on a, what is that? Not a cockpit.

What is that? The caboose? Well, the caboose is the end. The engine? Yeah, the engine. The conductor. Yeah, I don't know what it's called. I've never been up there.

So I don't know if there's a wheel or what. Two teens were arrested in South Carolina. The miners broke into the railroad facility, started an engine. The engine, right? The engine. That'd probably be the cockpit. Drove it around the yard before taking it down the rail toward a neighboring town. They reportedly went on YouTube.

but they probably should have watched a video on stopping it because on the way back from the Joyride, the track switched and they ran into several cars. Okay, that's it. That's a problem. That's a problem. Yeah, that'd be why the derailment happened. From WJB. They're like, we're rolling. We can't stop now.

And they didn't know it switched tracks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An Oregon guy lost an arm trying to stop suspected car thieves by throwing a homemade grenade at them. Oh. I think the idea there's just a homemade grenade. It's hilarious. A Florence man faces serious charges

After a homemade grenade accident left him injured According to a probable cause affidavit He attempted to deter suspected car thieves By throwing the device Resulting in a loss of his forearm at hand Sounds like a firework Yeah And then he's the one facing charges

Way to homemade grenade I know that's what I'm saying Just think about that You lose your arm And you're going to prison Yeah He reported seeing four individuals near his vehicle He called to Florence police

Who discovered his injuries upon arrival He said the grenade exploded it in his hands he tried to throw it at the suspects. He's charged the unlawful possession, manufacture of destructive devices, da-da-da-da-da. K-E-Z-I. Man, your car's not worth it. A 31-year-old postal worker in California's pled guilty after stealing credit cards and checks from people's mail.

Dude. And then spending the money on luxury goods and travel. She got caught up posting big stacks of cash on Instagram. I didn't expect that. From the smoking gun. Yeah, she was posting big stacks of cash, like flexing. Are these like credit cards that come in the mail that you can just open it up and then you call that number?

I guess so. Investigators launched a probe after more than 100 stolen cards were reported along her route. It's so dumb to do that on your own route. I wonder if she'd heard about this or she was just like, ooh, let me try this. They caught her in a hidden camera inside her postal vehicle. A December 2024 raid on her apartment uncovered 133 credit debit card, 16 treasury checks and 18 gift cards. Dang. She flaunted her lavish lifestyle.

By the way, if my postal worker is flaunting her lavish lifestyle, I'm going to think something's up. just at the nature of that job it's a good job good benefits but it doesn't allow you to have stacks of cash driving a Ferrari her handle was your fawkin mom F-A-W-K

Your falkin mom She posted vacation shots and stacks of cash She now faces up to 30 years in prison As being held ahead of her sentencing October 27 Smoking gun That's pretty crazy Our buddy didn't our buddy have like a mailman that stole his watch?

Yeah, I sent him a watch for a wedding. Amad. He thinks, allegedly. Yeah. I sent him a watch because everybody else pretty much lived here. So I got all my groomsmen, a nice watch. And so I sent him his, and he thinks his mailman stole it. Oh.

And confront him about it. And the guy, I don't remember the story, but. I don't remember either. It was very fishy. Let's see if there's anything else. I think that's it there. Let's see Are you want to do that

Carry Underwood thing? I made a note to talk about that Yeah Did you see it? No, I want you to say what you want to say And then I'll respond to it So I'll start by saying You guys made fun of me

For posting a picture With us playing golf With Kane Brown I posted it And then I put his song Famous Friends on the post You guys are like Oh gosh, how embarrassing

And that's so cringe Well, if you look at You're leaving out What? A lot of the stuff One, you went and screenshot it from my post. You didn't have the picture. One, you just wanted...

I could have bugged you for it. You just wanted to post it because Kane played with us. It's kind of cool picture. Okay, but... And, you know, playing golf with Kane Brown, that's kind of cool. I'd love to share that memory of people. No, you just want to share it with people. And also, you don't even know Kane that way.

You were just there and Kane was... Oh, I think Kane's a buddy. No, you don't have his number. He came to play... No, I don't. Because I was like, hey, come play golf. Yeah. And so you were there and he was there, and it was just a flex.

You're like, you're a falkin mom. Dude, careful with that. Then you put the, and I didn't even care. Who cares? The song, famous friends. I'm giving you a hard time. But then you put his song on top of it. It was Kane Brown.

So I got some famous friends. Okay, go ahead. And then if you look at Carrie Underwood, lunchbox, she just posted a picture with her and Shibuzi. What did she put? She put Shibuzi's song on. Boom! Hey, Eddie, listen, I don't see anything wrong with you posting the picture, man. I'm just telling you.

It's a cool memory to share with people, like Carrie Underwood. No, no, it's, first of all, I don't know which one I should do first. One, Kerry is more famous than Shibuzi by far. Oh, so it's not, okay. I see what you're saying. Like, I would be the Shibuzi in that situation. I wouldn't even say you're just a show. It's like if Kane had posted you.

That'd be cool. He'd never do that. He didn't repost you? Did you invite him to be a collaborator? No. Oh, my gosh. That would be the worst. That would have hurt my feelings if you wouldn't have accepted it.

I get that all the time that people don't accept mine. It's very frustrating. You collab with people? Yeah, whenever I have a picture or video with them, I always collab. Always. So, Carrie's more famous. Yeah, yeah. So this is her going, hey, I finally met Shabuzi.

It wasn't a flex. Carrie's famous. I wasn't trying to flex. Yes, you absolutely were. No, no, I was trying to share a cool memory with people. No, you are. You were like, look, Kane Brown's in my golf group. But I didn't even say that.

I just posted the picture. You posted his song, famous friend. And you tagged him. So you did. What was your, just a day at the golf course or something? I was like, what did you're hanging out with my golfing buddies or something like that. And he tagged, and you tag Kane and you put a song. I tagged you too.

Okay, I didn't need to be tagged. And I think I tagged Gator. You stole up from my freaking Instagram, but the screenshot. I literally don't care. We were just making fun of you because it was a little cringy. But it's not the same. It's not the same as the Kerry and Shibuzi thing. Because Carrie is more famous than Shibuzi.

Okay. Yeah, I don't see anything cringe. I just saw it and I was like, look, see, Carrie, me, same thing. Because, I mean, all you would have done it was text Bobby. he would have sent you the picture. So you just took a screenshot. You cut out the middleman. Save time.

Oh, I don't even care. That's not the worst part of it. It's that you put his song over the top and tried to act like it was just a normal day. It was an awesome day. It was an awesome day. I literally don't care, but it was just funny. It was kind of a dorky thing to do.

Carrie's doing it too, man. Yep. And if Carrie does it, Eddie can do it. It's good for the goose, good for the gander. Is that what you're saying? All right. I think that's it. With Amy leaving,

and kind of threw off some of the stuff I wanted to talk about no it's a boring show I didn't say that but with her being out it kind of it messes things up messes things up a little bit um all right well uh thank you and we will see you guys tomorrow hope you guys have a great day and that's it everybody good good man all right see you guys bye everybody a win a win a win a win a win is a win i don't care what i'm saying yep that's me cliver taylor the fourth You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

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But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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