The Bobby Bones Show - MON PT 2: Bobby's One Man Show + Addresses Troll Comments About The Show (Podcast)

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

Bobby comes to you from his home studio to share things that have been on his mind lately that he hasn't had a chance to share with you. He shares his newly found issues with dairy, trying to not have guilt about happiness and dealing with stress/perfectionism. He also addresses people commenting on the environment of the show and how we've worked with each other for 20+ years.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is not what this is. This is not a rerun. So you don't even have to enjoy it. But I just want to make sure that something is up, something that is somewhat new and something that is somewhat compelling. And mostly I have a checklist of stuff that I've been in to talk about for a long time. but I've not been able to talk about, so I figure what better time than right now

as I'm sitting alone on vacation, making notes for when we get back very soon. I'd like to first start with dairy. Up on my list, have dairy. I can no longer have dairy. I can have it. I just can't have it. For a long time, I would say probably my whole life,

I did not know that I, I won't say allergic, but that my body does not agree with dairy. Now what sucks about that is I love cheese. Never been a big milk guy unless it's cereal and then I love milk and cereal. But love cheese, all kinds of cheese. Love cereal. Would eat multiple bowls a day. Love it.

So it's been difficult to not eat dairy, especially when it comes to things I didn't even know dairy was in. Like I would order a smoothie and I would try to keep it clean. and I had no idea Now, this is just because I didn't look But I had no idea that Way protein was dairy. So here I am.

I've eliminated 95% of dairy and I'm drinking a smoothie and I'm telling my wife like, my stomach hurts. It's just like, well, try back you know what you've had. And I'm like smoothie and what's in your smoothie? Strawberries,

uh, coconut water. blah blah, protein. What kind of protein? Way protein. Well, there you go. So the dairy thing has been difficult.

Way more difficult than I thought. And I'm not even going to say that it makes me feel so much better, but I just don't feel terrible when I'm not eating cheese, having any milk, or any dairy at all, but it is difficult.

So, I mean, I'm like a third vegan at this point and not even on purpose. but that's been a bit of a change in my life. Even if I order like a burger, there are some places that will order Uber Eats or DoorDash or whichever the services that can get here the quickest. And they don't offer to take the cheese off the burger. And so it gets here and I've got a fork

and I've got to scrape the stupid thing off. So that's number one. Number one is my life is a bit different because I don't get to drink milk or use milk and cereal or eat any kind of cheese at all. And that sucks because I love it so much. That's number one on my list of ways that my life has changed in the past four to five months.

I was in my therapist's office this past week. And I guess for the few weeks we've been talking about being a perfectionist. I do not consider myself a perfectionist in any way. I have friends that I feel like are perfectionists. I feel like I am the exact opposite of a perfectionist. Now, me feeling that I'm not a perfectionist doesn't mean that I feel like I don't work hard or I'm not tirelessly putting an effort or I'm not consistently and constantly trying to be better. But to me, perfectionism seems like it would be counter to what I'm trying to accomplish

because I will easily try something I'm not good at, not be deterred if it doesn't go well. I'll just do it again. I'll just do it again. And my goal isn't for it to be perfect because I don't believe there is perfection, actually. But I'm sitting in my therapist office and mostly it's me trying to figure out how to find just generally happiness

or how to be okay with it when I do find it, how to not have guilt about it, if I do have it for a second, how to acknowledge it before I start assigning other thoughts to, well, I don't think I'm going to be happy very long, so I better get ready. Or, well, this went pretty well, but if I don't start killing myself now, it's never going to go well again. So I think it's kind of just like sitting inside of happiness. And so I like to read.

I don't like to be the person that talks a lot about liking to read because those people tend to be annoying. Not people that read, but people that always talk about how much they read. I don't even mind people talking about great books. They have read and passing them along, but it's the people that always want to talk about how much they read or how often they read that annoy me a little bit because I feel like they're only saying that because they want you to know that. It's like the person with the big fake library in their house and they got all these books and you know they didn't read any crap. Or it's like the person that does CrossFit and has to tell you all about it. Or it's like the person that is a new vegan.

I would say dairy, but I'm only a third vegan. I don't talk about it much, but I'm telling you, it has helped me a ton. As far as, like, not having to be in the bathroom for an hour. I'd go to the bathroom for an hour

and nothing would happen. It just felt like I needed to go to the bathroom. But I'm telling you, it wasn't like I was in the bathroom for an hour and I would be in there and bathrooming would be happening. There would be no bathroom happening. Anyway, off dairy.

Off dairy for the most part. What I haven't tried, though, is the lactate. I don't feel that I've been in a place long enough because if I'm going to eat dairy and tempt lactate, I need to be somewhere that I'm comfortable if all doesn't go right. You know what I'm saying? Because when I was having big stomach and digestion issues, I had tubes everywhere. Like I thought I was sick.

I thought something was broken inside of me. So I had the old tube up the butt, the colonoscopy, had the other one, the endoscopy. They're looking at different things, but they're both oscopy. not comfortable. Then you got to do the thing the day before where you don't eat, but then you drink like super soaker liquid. I'm not even sure what it is. And then I go to the doctor and he's like, man,

you got the colonoscopy or the colon of a nine-year-old. He actually didn't say that, but he was like, yeah, you look great. And so I framed up that picture. Picture my colon in a frame with a heart over that says Nashville right next to my bed. And it's like, well, there's nothing wrong with me inside that what's wrong with me? is me getting back to therapy.

And there's very much stress-induced digestive issues. And you may have heard me talk before about stress. I don't feel stress. Not that I don't feel stress as then I'm a superhero.

I feel no stress. I generally don't feel that I am a stressed person because I feel that anything I need to do, I will just do. anything that I am not able to do that I need to do it, I will figure out how to do it.

And if I can't figure out how to do it and do it unsuccessfully, I will then, after unsuccessfully doing it, figure out how to do it better until I do it right. I'm not stressed out about that stuff. Like I feel that I have no stress. Now it's different whenever there are a personal, things that happen in your life, and there have been personal things that have happened in my life in the past couple of years that have been pretty traumatic. There have been two

really severe situations that I haven't fully been able to acknowledge on the air. At some point, I will. But it's a timing thing. And I cannot yet. for different reasons. But personally, I've had two very severe slash traumatic things happen in my direct circle, one involving me, one not involving me. And I think that stress is different. I'm talking about day-to-day stress. Now, I have a staff of 15 people.

Do I worry that my performance will not. not be quality enough for them to keep their jobs. At times, I do worry about that. Because I got to be honest with you, if I go down, the whole ship goes down. That's the truth of it. I know that. So if I'm not performing in my highest and the show doesn't perform at its highest, I got a lot of people that are scurrying. And these are my people. If you know my show, you know that I've hired my people from my life. You know, the radio show. Amy's been there for 20 years. I was talking to somebody the other day

about how long everybody's been with me and they were blown away. I forget sometimes that it is abnormal to have people with you for that long. Amy and Lunchbox said about 20 years. I mean, Eddie and I have been friends for just about that amount of time,

but we've been working together on the show for 13 or 14. Ray, same thing. 13, 14 years. Mike D in one capacity or the other, 12, 13, 14 years. Even Morgan, who came along way late is now a decade in.

and it's funny when people will comment on the environment of the show or like go after me or go after someone on the show like it's just so toxic if it were toxic do you think people would be around for 20 years for 10 years like there are things we do because we're close and we're able to rib each other give each other a hard time we're even able to cross the line a little bit because we know if we do accidentally cross the line we have enough invested in the years that it ain't going to sink the ship. And so when people are always like, this person doesn't like this person or they don't get along or they're fighting or I hate how they treat whomever, I do find that to be a bit comedic because if the culture was bad, you wouldn't have people there for 20 years or 15 years

or 10 years, which is like the lowest, I think our lowest person's probably scuba. And scuba came over from Seacrest after a few years. It's probably been there almost 10 years. So that just doesn't happen, right? Like I really take pride in the environment that I create. I hold myself to a very, very, very, very high standard. And I hold everybody else to a high standard. And I hold everybody else to have accountability

to the other people in the room and on the show. Everybody's not going to be on every day. But you've got to show up on time every single time. Now, how this all gets back to stress and perfectionism is that I don't feel stress except I do. I did talk about this in the show recently. I didn't know that I felt stress. And you may be having some of these same feelings

except you're not feeling them like I don't. And you may not know it like I don't. And what I would say is through a lot of therapy and I'm not a therapy kid didn't have therapy. obviously as a kid didn't have any money, didn't go to therapy, didn't start therapy until I was an adult, got insurance. It's probably like 25 or 26. And I was like, for 20 bucks, I can go to therapy. I can go to sit in a room for the shrink because that's what they would call them on my television. I can sit in the room with a shrink and just say stuff and they'll give me advice. And it literally was

going to be for a bit. And about the third time I went, I was actually getting feedback. And then I just kept going. And then I started to realize how excellent is it to have somebody that has no bias giving you feedback? It doesn't mean they're right every time. They're not even trying to be right. I think that's one of my favorite things about therapy. Therapists aren't trying to be right. They're not calling a play.

It's not third and six. And they're running a slant. And turns out you shouldn't run the slant because the corners were on the inside. You had no leverage. and you're like, well, that was a bad play to call. No, they're not. They're actually, therapy is setting you up to make the right decisions. Or just to have the right tools to make decisions.

So, and I've talked about it, been a big therapy guy. But the stress part, as I've learned, is that I have since possibly even birth, lived under a certain amount of stress that comes with survival. I don't feel it now. I do at times when it manifests itself in weird ways. But when I talk about stress, stress feels different. Stress is like an omnipresent force that when it presents itself, you're like, oh, yeah.

Stress. The big thing at work, stressed out. I don't have that. Except what I have learned is that I live within that because I've never been out of that, which is why I don't know how to relax, which is why I don't have a favorite place to go for vacation, which is why I don't like vacation. And I should say,

it's not that I don't like vacation. I just don't like vacation. I think there's a difference. I don't dislike vacation, but I don't like vacation. I have no relationship with whatever vacation is because my entire life, I'm not talking about,

I was poor. I'm not even talking about that. Once I started working, I was at 105.9 KLAZ and I was making, what like seven bucks an hour i doubt that and i would get a week off i would use that time to fill it with what i didn't have enough time to do in other parts of work because again it had to pay whatever the rent was whatever the car insurance was whatever and a lot of people

have to do that it's like a rare thing but i never had a relationship with it because i never went on a vacation as a kid. And then when I became an adult and there was time for vacation, there was no real surplus of a couple hundred bucks to go on a vacation, nor did I know what I wanted to do on vacation, nor did I have anybody to do it with. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, Somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

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So I had this relationship with whatever vacation is that was non-existent. Not bad. Definitely not good. Not bad, but just non-existent. I don't know how to relax. Which is why I've said a bunch of times. I wish I could have a relationship with whatever people do when they like drink a little bit and relax or smoke weed or whatever they do to relax. because I wish I had something like that

that allowed me to just experience it. So, but apparently I don't feel stress because there is an underlying stress that was implanted into me when I was a mere child. Now, I don't blame anybody for that. My mom was 15 when she got pregnant. She had me weeks after her 16th birthday.

What do you think is going to happen? she's struggling herself and a lot of guilt for a lot of years about just being born because had I been born imagine I'm not even going to say the great life that she could have had because she was also very poor but like imagine that she'd have had a shot to graduate high school possibly to go to college from all accounts my mom is a very smart person she also could sing that part I didn't get. So there's a stress that from a very young age

I didn't have stability or a whole lot of support as a baby, as a toddler, as a whatever lure you are when you're 4, 5, 6, kindergarten. I don't remember not feeling it, but I definitely remember being alone a lot

even as a young, young, young kid. And the more that I ended up reading about, children who not abandoned because I was not abandoned. Now my mom was gone for years at a time, but my grandma was there to raise me. And if you read my first book, which is called Bare Bones, I do talk about how,

I think I wrote in the book. I have not read the book back since I wrote it because it was very difficult. But I think I wrote about how my grandma had left out my Social Security card where I had a change of a last name. So my name was Bobby. and my grandma's last name was Hurt, which is why I have H.H. on my arm, Hazel Hurt.

So my grandma was Hazel hurt, and my name was Bobby Hurt. And I was like, why is my name different? It's not Bobby Estel like it is. And then she told me she was my grandma and my mom because my mom would just disappear. Now, again, you're talking about I'm five or six years old. So let's just say five. So my mom's 21. That's crazy.

It's crazy to think of her being 16 years old with a baby and no real support system. at least not one that could provide financially. So from what I've been told, what I've been taught, what I've learned through all the books I've read, let me type about all the books I read. Just kidding. Is that that feeling of not knowing there was consistency or love

from being a baby in on does create a stress inside of you? I don't know what, I don't feel it, but I always had it. I remember being third or fourth grade. And I would try to get to school early, even if I rode my bike, which I did a lot of times because I was on the free lunch program.

And if you got there, you got free breakfast. And so I would try to get there so I could eat because sometimes we didn't have breakfast at the house. And so I got free lunch. And sometimes I would save the lunch or I would get extra if they would allow it. And I would take it home and eat it for dinner. and it never felt that I was without when that was happening because that was just normal.

And I think a lot of you guys will relate to that too. Like, I didn't know the difference. It was just, I'd like to eat. So how am I going to eat? Not always food at the house. So I think I'm going to eat by riding my bike to school extra early. By the way, nobody woke me up. I woke.

I mean, it's how I love my life now, right? It's going to be eventually my point. And so I never. I never felt like I was without because I didn't know the difference. I was just normal. I mean, there were other kids that had more and I guess I felt like a kid that didn't have as much

but it wasn't, yeah, I wasn't ostracized so much because I'm from a small town where most people are poor. We did have one kid with a swimming pool in ground. That's pretty freaking cool. but if I didn't get free breakfast if I didn't get free lunch if I didn't take some home for dinner

sometimes not all the time because sometimes we had hamburger helper or manwich and I explained to my wife what manwich was yeah so it wasn't all the time but definitely was sometimes I needed to be prepared so there was a stress there right not that I knew I didn't know I was stressed

I was just surviving you know I think about seventh or eighth grade probably seventh because that's when I took my ACT for the first time seventh grade is when I realized whatever was happening in my small town it was for a lot of people but it wasn't for me because I wanted to do things that other people around me weren't doing not because I was watching them done but because I naturally was doing things that really didn't make a lot of sense where I was.

And a great thing too is my mom around, I guess, eighth grade. I'm not sure when my mom in Arkansas, Keith got married. They were together on and off a bit. I live with my grandma for a little bit while they were together. My grandma was awesome. Like I get, I don't get emotional thinking about things, but if I am talking about it like I am now, like I'm starting to feel a little choked up thinking about my grandma,

it's to the point where sometimes I avoid thinking about her because it makes me sad and like I miss her because it didn't matter what happened. My grandma was always there. And again, I didn't know the difference. I didn't know how important she was. I didn't know that what she was doing was basically making sure that I had any sort of chance to do anything. And I'm not even saying do anything that's considered successful or great, but just to not fall into the same traps that a lot of people and a lot of small towns fall into, which is why I'm so sensitive to people in small towns getting opportunities because a lot of times they don't have a grandma. I don't think I have the worst story ever. I think there are parts of my story that are and were difficult. And I used to

resent them so much and be confused as to why that crap had to happen to me. I don't feel that way anymore. For the most part, I'm grateful for them because I wouldn't be whatever stress ball I am, but I wouldn't have this success. I wouldn't have met my wife. I wouldn't have had a lot of this stuff happen had I not gone through that. But without my grandma, I don't even get a chance to do that. Whatever difficult life I had would have been so much more difficult without my grandma, which I haven't really thought about in a long time. I'm sitting here now thinking about it, and a little bit, my eyeballs are getting hot. But she was there. And she wasn't there like, hey, every day, I'm here. If you need me, come on over. She wasn't there like that. But she was there

and that if my mom wasn't there, guess what? Guess what we're going? Guess what we're staying? Guess who's staying? Her, my grandma, always, always, always. She wasn't, hey, I'm coming over and bringing something over. I'm, I'm coming. No, no, no. She was just the ultimate safety net. More than a net. I think my mom knew that too, so my mom was very, very, very young. I think of me now. I'm 44 years old. My mom died just about my age, just barely, barely older, but just my age, basically. I think about how old I was compared to how old if I would have had a kid at the same age as my mom. Crazy. Like right now, I'd have a kid over 20 years old.

Over 20, I mean, I'd have a, freaking 26-year-old kid. I mean, if my math is right. but which is crazy. And again, I used to feel so much guilt because of that, because my mom had me so early. But I'm also grateful for my grandma. I'm grateful for my stress that I did not know I had, but I do have it.

And I do, at least now, I do have the ability to acknowledge it. And so when you live with something for so long and you don't even know you live with it, it's kind of hard just to go, oh, I'm going to point a finger at that and it's just going to disappear. Because again, I don't feel stressed because I've always had a sort of stress entrenched into me from whenever I was a baby to now. I mean, you can talk to the people that work for me. I think I am both the greatest boss of all time and the absolute most fantastic. a plus leader there could possibly be and at the same time the exact opposite is two things can be true at

once i stay so stressed out every single day i don't sleep why don't i sleep because i'm afraid i will oversleep and if i oversleep abcd i fg i lose my job there's a lot of letters in between there like if I oversleep, the performance is low. So, but me not sleeping also then allows me to get sick. And I get sick. I don't perform as well. So then there's that contradiction within itself. But I feel constantly stressed out without even knowing what stress is.

I am wound so tight. I am not saying this as a compliment, but I have never met anyone more efficient than me. I don't think efficiency is that sexy, but I have never met anyone more efficient than me because I'm scared to not be. So I am stressed out constantly without feeling stressed, and this is where perfectionism comes into play. I haven't forgot about that. It's where I started. It's where I'm going to end this part. I'm not a perfectionist. I don't speak. I don't speak. well and I have a job that people listen to me. Millions of people listen to me. I am wildly successful at this job. By the way, one step back. I think I'm a great boss because I don't do anything. I don't

ask my people to do. Period. I think I'm a great boss because if you're on my team, we're going to win. It might take a second. We might lose for a minute, but we're going to win. I'm a great boss because you're other teammates are going to respect you and your time the way you're going to respect them. I'm a great boss because I have extremely high expectations of myself and high expectations of you. And I only have high expectations of you if I think you can meet those expectations. So if you're working with me, I have high regards for you. And I expect you to not only hit that, but to break from that.

I think I'm a great leader. Nah, screw it. I'm a great leader because get on the team and let's go win. And I'm a great leader because I know all the time I can't lead. There have been a couple of times. I referenced it earlier. A couple of instances where I was really working from a detra. I don't want to say it was very tough for me and I had to rely on others.

and I think a great leader knows that at times you have to do that. A great leader is not someone with no weakness. I have a ton of weakness. So I think I'm a great leader. I also think I'm at times a terrible leader in that I don't communicate well with others in certain professional instances because I think at this point my feeling is,

well, they can understand. They can read my mind. They know what I'm feeling. so I get disappointed without it being fair to them. And I know that and I try to get better at that. And I think that is an extreme weakness of mine is a lack of communication at times not because I'm scared to communicate

because I'm not generally a people pleaser. But I think it's the expectation that people are able to know what I'm thinking for whatever. because we've done it for a long time together because they know so definitely have flaws but if you're with me it's because I believe in you and we're going to go win the sucker it doesn't matter what it doesn't matter what it is I think a bit of my stress is making sure that what I have and that's relationships that's work making sure that doesn't crumble because I'm peasant I don't deserve it to begin with.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.

Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or we're you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.

Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield.

And in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Igor, and my next.

guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.

I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you. which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.

If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest.

The director of the NFL's East-West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12

and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test once.

It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Lesbian and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young.

This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't really have a skill. Like I said, I'm not the greatest talker, not the greatest community.

even just my job, not even like leadership skills. I have an accent. I talk too fast. At times I forget mid-sentence what I was trying to say because something else happens. But that doesn't keep me from being really good at this job. And I think a lot of the success has been, I've been able to pick really, really,

I don't want to short sell them with the words, really well-rounded in specialized ways, high-functioning people. And that's been cool. but I'm afraid if I over sleep. I'm afraid if I don't put in X amount of time at night reading through stories. I'm afraid if I don't keep up with this. I'm afraid if I don't.

It's complete fear-based that has created the stress that I live with, that I don't know I have, that is not only my superpower, but it is also my greatest weakness. Now to perfectionism. in the midst of this stress and me trying to find out how that I can sleep because I don't sleep and I think it used to be the cool thing

like I don't sleep I just work I don't feel that way anymore because I need to sleep in order to be extremely effective working but I just need to sleep to be healthy to be there for my wife to be a decent boss to have my wits about me

so I can be funny. I don't sleep. And a bit of that, if not all of that is coming from the stress, not from whatever physically has been going on with me because I've had it all checked out. All of it's checked out. I've got tubes in every hole.

Got them in there now. Kolnoscopy, endoscopy, dopthoscopy, daptoscopy, daptoscopy, and I hope if you're listening, maybe you can relate to a little bit of this and where perfectionism comes in, my therapist is like, I think you're perfectionist

is that I think you are absolutely wrong, because I don't pursue perfection. I think me trying to be perfect at something, me trying to make it slick and shiny, that would be the opposite of what I've always done successfully. And I haven't purposefully done it successfully because if I had a great announcer voice, I would have done that.

I think I wanted to sound like this crap, but he's like, I think you're missing the point of what perfectionism is, and I was. Because when I hear perfectionism, I think it's somebody wanting a perfect product. And when I have perfectionism, I think of it as a positive. I think of it as a, wow, they really want to do it perfect, so they're not going to quit until then.

And I think that can be an aspect of it. However, I have now started to learn. I've been wading into perfectionism in a way that is not the most healthy, in a way that I do have these tendencies, because I think there is no way, I will be successful unless my process of doing something is perfectly the same way that it's been my entire life because that's the only way I've been successful. And the only way I've been successful is showing up on time, every time, all the time, and making sure that nothing that I can

control is off, even a percent, which is stressful. I think about perfection. And I think about perfection perfectionism like that. I didn't think about perfectionism as being not a perfect product, but my perfectionism is, in my mind, I feel like if I don't do it this one exact way, that it's not going to be done right. I'm petrified to do it a different way. I'm petrified to be late. I'm the first one there. Raymundo's there. He's got to turn the show on. But if everybody like that you guys here, I'm the first one there. I would like to be like some of the other guys I know that do radio and TV that are like, whatever, the big star is they show up 10 minutes before and everybody else says, has everything taken care of,

and they walk in, they got their notes, and oh, they've planned every bit. No, I can't do that. I would love to do that. I'm not too good to do that. But I feel if I do that, I will not be successful. And it's not even just that.

It's why I made my New Year's resolution to try to be late twice to work this year. I've not even been close. I can't. It's that I think, not that I'm going to succeed, if I don't do the process perfect, but that if I don't do the process, quote, perfect in my mind,

that I'm going to fail and flame out so hard, that I'm going to be back where I started. Whichever version of that it is. I have never thought of myself as a perfectionist because my product is not perfect. I have not edited this. I have no desire to edit this. There's going to be gaps.

I'm going to be stumbling. I'm going to be saying things wrong. My books, like my literal books with a massive publishing company, the biggest in the world, they have typos in them because I wrote, when I wrote, I wrote so wrong that they couldn't even catch all the typos. I'm fine with that. A big part of whatever my brand is has been just go and try it. I would rather there be action and messing up than inaction because at least with action,

you learn something. But with action, you got to show up every time, on time, all the time. And so where my perfectionism, I don't say that is a positive thing. That is not a flex or a brag. where my perfectionism comes in is I am scared to death that if I don't do it the exact way I've done it my entire life that I am going to be a loser a failure and it and then here's the contradiction at the same time I'm like well I don't mind failing I failed so many things but then why must I maintain this extremely rigorous process that keeps me apparently

so stressed out, it physically makes me sick and completely fearful. I don't know the answer to that. But I do accept now that I am a perfectionist and not in the way of, I am a perfectionist when it comes to playing the cello where the notes must be exactly right and you shall enjoy this. I am a perfectionist in an unhealthy way where if the process is not done in what I feel is the perfect way. It is not acceptable, and when it's not acceptable, I will be a complete loser and failure. And you know what? When you say it out loud, it feels ridiculous.

And it is ridiculous, but it can't change how I feel in a day or three therapy sessions. But the key to changing anything, if it's whatever I'm whining about here, if it's addiction even, I could talk about my mom or other family members, is acknowledging it, is understanding that it exists. That's the key. It doesn't mean you're going to fix it, but you cannot fix it if you don't know about it, if you don't acknowledge it. So I'm going to try not to be as much of a perfectionist.

Weird to say, because it does feel like a flex. It is not a flex. I did not think I was a perfectionist forever because my product is not perfect. and I would encourage you, if you're listening to this, if you have these tendencies that you can't figure out, I had to look at it from a different perspective because if you would have said, oh, you're a perfectionist.

Like, it seriously said that. There's no way. There's no way. I'd have bet all the money in my pocket. I got like 11 bucks in my pocket. Because my product is not perfect. That does not mean I'm not a perfectionist because it must be done a certain way

what I deem perfect in order to be successful. And that also is not true. So it's challenged. I'm not even going to say beliefs because I didn't even know that I had it. I know what my belief system is. I didn't even know that I felt this way. But that's what's up. I'm trying to be less of a perfectionist.

I'm trying to identify the stresses and stressors that keep me from sleeping and being healthy. I'm very happy I had this conversation because I thought about my grandmother in a way that I haven't in a long time, a very thankful way. I'm never not thankful, but just for a second in this conversation, she existed with me. And that's pretty awesome. I mostly got over years ago

feeling guilty that I was born, mostly. That doesn't mean I fully am now. But at least I understand when I struggle with it and I still feel guilty for being born, I understand I had nothing to do with that. I could not control.

that in any way. And I'm somebody who likes control because I feel like if I control it, if it doesn't go right, at least I had a chance because I was controlling it. I have no control over it. I had no control over it. I will have no control over it. I can acknowledge that now the same way I can acknowledge that I'm a perfectionist in the worst way.

The rest of the podcast that was up today was a rerun. Or was it? It was Monday. It was a new show today. It was a new show today. But we put this podcast up today with it because we only did the single show and then this

because I just want to make sure one, there's content and two, I didn't even get to the other things I wanted to talk about. And I got to go eat. I want to talk about my chain that I've been wearing. I'm not a chain guy.

I'm not a jewelry guy. One thing about my wife and there's many things about my wife that I deeply respect is her confidence in everybody. It all was rooted in, and I'll be quick, because my food's apparently up there. I was doing NFL honors.

It was a television show on Fox with the NFL. I was presenting an award to George Kittle, the Tiddle for the 49ers. And I was up. I was on television, and I was wearing a suit, but no tie. And I said, man, I feel empty with no tie.

And my wife's like, why don't we wear like a chain? I was like, I don't wear jewelry. I like stupid. And she was like, well, you can wear a chain. It'll just give you a slight, like an insy-beency little something.

And people may not even see it, but they may sit in the back of your neck. It will add just something. And maybe it won't, but maybe it will. And I'm like, I don't know. She's like, just wear it. Think about my wife, she really believes if you believe you can pull it off, you can pull it off and F everybody else. So I've had a little, it's very small. It's had a little chain.

And I've just been wearing it because I appreciate that from her. Not even about that TV show. But she lives by it. She's like, it doesn't matter what people think. Oh, does this look stupid? Can I pull this off? She's like, do you want to pull it off? Do you like it?

Okay, you're pulling it off. The end. She's right. I was going to do a whole chain thing because I've been wearing a chain a little bit, but nobody's noticed, and that's okay. You have to notice my chain. Got to go.

Hope you guys have a great rest of the day. If you heard this, if you got to this point, send me a message on Instagram and my stories. I'd appreciate that. I have no idea. If you guys are going to listen for 50 minutes to this,

this was not supposed to go this long. Maybe you don't. Maybe you won't. maybe, well, you won't even know to send me a message, but you can send me a message saying, hey, listen to all 50 minutes. Like this, didn't like this. This did not resonate with me. This did resonate with me.

That helps me. I do like feedback. So thank you for listening and I appreciate you guys listening to the show. There are 10 million options. The fact that you listen with us, that's really awesome. And thank you very much. And that is the end of this one-man show. All right, bye, everybody.

A win is a win. A win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators,

and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at Tickford. Talk Podcast Network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target.

He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom.

My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.

Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar,

This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd

was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Ellen's, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Grega lesbian. Michael Ranjini.

My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human