The Bobby Bones Show - MON PT2: Monday Morning Drama + Bobby's Favorite Band Counting Crows In-Studio + Anonymous Spill The Tea

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

Bobby started with a voicemail from a listener who touches on a sensitive subject for us, but we address it anyway. We also got an update on the YouTube channel subscriber count. We then got into an argument trying to figure out who is at fault, Eddie or the equipment. Bobby's favorite band, Counting Crows stopped by the studio! They talked about their feud with SNL, how they craft a setlist and how Bobby was originally afraid to meet Adam. We then returned with Miles who is on our Canadian radio stations who told us about his crazy life story living all over the world including Scotland, Dubai, England and Canada. Then we played an Anonymous Tea Message about someone who has a complaint with Eddie.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Bobby Bones Show. Come on! I do want to start with a couple of voicemails. This is Eric from Bismarck, North Dakota. First-time caller, and I've been at listener since the ye day that I heard live on the radio.

opening the first thing from the palette. Since that moment, I have went back and listened to every single episode that has been available. I'm about a year and a half sober, and I don't know where I would be without you all. You guys' chemistry makes me feel like I'm part of the family, and I love you guys. I don't know where I'd be without y'all. Thanks, man. Congrats on a year and a half. And, yeah, the palette, that's almost the Voldemort of this show.

Almost, where we do speak about it occasionally, but we know it will be trouble when we do. That's all. I just don't want to get into it now. I just don't want to get into it now. No, let's not talk about it. I'm not in the mood to get into it now, but go ahead. Can I just say I'm happy that the pallet was able to help in his journey? No, no, because the palate has hurt our journey. It's made me start drinking. It's the opposite of him. I've never drank, but because the pallet, we have not got our money back, I'm now, I'll say it, I drink. Oh, no, you don't. It makes me so mad, though.

Me too. About what? It pisses me off that we don't have our money. Yes. I've had to let it go. Y'all need to let us go. This is why we don't talk about it. I'm moving. Hey, business people. You're not a business person.

You're a scammer. We're still saying we don't have any money for that. So you guys don't get back about that. The stuff that we bought in that bit was stuff to hold and let it grow in value. Well, what do you think the stuff from the palace doing? That stuff's not growing in value. It's a piece of rope. I know.

That's sold. $100 bill. And then pay us. Give us our part of what we have. It's like when you start a not. It's not like it's like. No, no. Like, right.

Right. Next voicemail. Hi guys. Okay, I just saw that you hit 300,000 subscribers on YouTube. Curious as to if it counts since it was after the show ended, or if you're going to let it go, let me know. Not sure of that question. I think there are some comments that we should have on this. We did hit, but it was, I gave it until the show ended, and then I gave it another hour and a half, and we did not hit until even after we went off the podcast after that. I think it was only like five minutes after that. It was quick.

Dang. But I did give it an extra. hour and a half because I really wanted to do it. So I saw that you had through anything if it counts. So no, nobody got paid out because nobody hit it in that. But I'm still going to pay somebody a thousand dollars or all three of you a thousand dollars. Yes. If we hit 500,000 before September 1st or one person gets 3,500. If what? If you decide to play a game for it. I like it. But we'll get there first. Once we hit that number, we can decide that. But And a lunchbox has a problem because he's tried to figure out a way to wiggle in to say he deserves $100.

But go ahead. Yes, I would like to, on behalf of Eddie, Morgan and myself, I would like to come into Bobby Bones' courtroom and say that we actually did hit it by the end of the show because if you are living in Sacramento, California, the show was still on the air when we hit $300,000. So technically the show was still on. The show was still going when we hit 300,000. And you said by the end of the show, and so my belief is the show was not over. So by the end of the show, then that argument could be used because it's always streaming on one of the channels, the I heart channels.

I like that too. It's always on demand. No, it was until the end of the show as we do the show. When we ended the show, I still said, I will give you guys another hour and a half. Oh, man. And it still didn't hit. but I'm giving you guys the opportunity

to make a lot more money with the neck. By the way, I don't make any money off this. This is money I'm just giving out of my own pocket. Eddie, we need sound. Mm-hmm. I see that. Sorry. You mean we do this whole thing with no sound?

Yeah, that's what Morgan is saying. No way. Hold it. This isn't helping y'all's case. There it is. Oh, my, we've, but this whole time, none of that went on. Did we at least get it for the podcast? Yeah, we're recording over here.

It's just a stream. This isn't our first day ever here. Oh, my God. Stop it. You know it's not my fault. It's lost box the fault. Sorry, dude. My computer updated over the weekend. So it's not your fault, but it is. It updated over the weekend.

And it restarts everything, so I didn't see that that wasn't on. So you didn't see. But it wasn't your fault. But technically, we were on air in the West Coast. No, that's not true. We're not on the air. Technically, it's the computer's fault, not mine. Yes. I'm sorry, dude.

It didn't see it up. But you just said it wasn't your fault, so why are you sorry? Well, because this computer, when it restarts, it does all kinds of things. I just want to do a quick lesson for everybody listening, just in general. If something's ever your fault, just say, that's on me, my fault. I'll get better. Sorry about that. And move on.

Because that allows everybody to move on. It allows you to move on. It allows the people that are over you to move on. It allows everybody. When you say it's not my fault and it obviously was your fault, all it does is extend the communication about whose fault it was and where... either the lack of communication from you or the lack of or the inability of whatever program we're using to run. Yeah.

So now that's extended a whole bunch more. And further infuriates your superior. Well, it's just like, was it your fault? I was it your fault? Yeah, I should have seen that on there. My bad, man. Just in general in life, if that's it, yeah, it sucks for a second, but it's like a pill. Man, it didn't taste very good.

But, all right, onward. You know what's stupid about this whole thing, though? I would just move on. I would just let it go. But this is also a space where we get to talk things through. Yeah, go ahead. I like to hear it and we move on. But I think we do this and we have to keep going on a podcast,

but cut our stream and start it over because anybody watching the beginning of that is going to see four minutes of silence and they're not going to watch the stream. I wouldn't. Or maybe they just got on right now. It doesn't matter. It goes loaded up as a YouTube video, which you're trying to get more videos for. Therefore, why would anybody watch any of the content? All right, take it down.

Yeah, well, we did a video on YouTube and no, I mean, Morgan thought this was going to get so many views and got 900 views Okay but you can't fight those What was the video? Hold on algorithms you cannot predict So I'm not gonna be on anybody for putting anything up No I was just being funny I was like I looked at it and I was like man I thought we were gonna have so many I was like dang it Wait that was you being funny

No I didn't think it was funny Okay so can we start the stream over Yes but keep the podcast going I'm gonna ask Morgan I'm sure I mean she can do anything Okay, start the stream over. Yeah, we're still recording over here, Ray. And you got out of your own.

And let me know where, when it comes back on. And this is what I was going to say. No, everybody just hush. Everybody hush. He's mad at me. I'm not mad at you. Everybody, no, everybody shush. Start the stream over. Let me know when we're back on.

And then we will start again. But we won't start over. But from the start of that content on video, if you don't hook people in the first few seconds, nobody's going to watch any of it. And you're running us with four minutes of silence. there's no way that then would get over like 50 views. Now people may turn on the Facebook stream

because that is live or watch it live on YouTube but if we want anybody to watch it as it's loaded, they're not going to. But these are the decisions you have to make in order to get more followers. I'm interested to see what Eddie was mad about. I want to wait until the stream comes up. Are we working on it now? Yeah, Morgan's working on the back end.

It's a A, not Morgan's fault. No one's blaming Morgan. That's just getting you the key. Thank you. And I'm looking we'll get to it, okay. You know what? Why don't we just go to the Adam Duritz interview?

Oh. Yeah, that's ready to go. We'll come back on the other side of the Adam Duritz interview. Okay. So we'll just shut it all down. But also just so Eddie feels better maybe because of everything we talked about, somebody listening to that is going to mess up at work this week, and they're going to own it right away because of you, and it's going to be better.

It's going to be better for them. They're going to call it an Eddie. I pull it an Eddie. Okay, so let's do this. Let's go to Adam Duritz from Counting Crows, and we'll come back. on the backside. On the Bobby Bones show now. Adam,

Duretz of Counting Crows. Adam, good to see you again, buddy. Hey, no, I realize there's things going on in the head that I'm missing out on. It was literally a voice just going, and now, Adam Duritz, counting crows.

I mean, if you really wanted to hear that. Did it sound cool? Yeah. Was it a good intro? Seven out of ten. All right. Okay, it's cool. I was...

As long as I got the idea now, I feel like I've hit the stage, there's been a... Yeah. I'm here. You're in you. Do you guys have an intro now? when you come out? Like, how do you guys come out?

We usually play this song. It lately, it's been Stand by Sliding the Family Stone. Lights go down, Stan comes on. We come on about midway through the song. So the song is playing, like over the top? And you guys walk out? Yeah, it's out. Out in the hall. It comes out. When you do a set list, how often does it change during a tour?

Oh, every night. Is that part of your, you know, I don't know, creative nightly task is to recreate the set list? Yeah, he was here a second ago. He and I do it after dinner sometime. Does that depend on the mood that you're in? Yeah, yeah. Just sort of what do you want to play tonight?

That way we're playing stuff we want to play. Do one of you ever go, hey, maybe we haven't played this song in a while? We throw this in. Is there ever like a battle? No, it's usually like that. You know, somebody wants to, I mean, anybody in the band can say, hey, you know, I've been really dying to play this. And if we, you know, if we've been playing it, we just stick it in the set list. if we haven't been, we'll work it at sound check and then put it in the set list.

Sometimes we need a few days to work on something if we haven't played it for a decade or something, you know. Oh, you'll bring old songs back sometimes. Yeah, because people like, you know, we have so many records at this point and so many songs and people like get to where they're dying to hear someone or someone's girlfriend is pretty insistent about something. My girlfriend really wanted us to play this song, Butterfly in Reverse for a long time. And it was a song, even when it was released, we only played it once or twice. checked on the whatever the archive we only played it once or twice and we worked on it and put it in the set and now it's been like every night for a few years that that everybody loved it so much that it's kind of stuck in there but yeah you know there's things you haven't played in a long time are

there any songs that you feel you have to play every night is there one song that stays in the thread the whole time uh a long december does nothing now i mean i don't feel like there's anything i have to play every night uh because sometimes you just get tired of anything there is you're anything there is you get tired of it, except for some reason, for me, a long December. I never get tired of it. There's never been a night where I didn't want to play it. I don't know why that is. I have no idea, but I'm always kind of excited to play it.

Like an arrangement change up on that song, like playing it by yourself at a piano or the full band? Does that ever change, even though the thread is you play that song every night? Yeah, I mean, we'll change little details of it. There's little breakdowns that go into it. For the last year and a half, I started, I just was, we went to see Taylor Swift, and it was really great. and I really loved that song The One. And so I started like backstage working on a version of it by myself. And then I just walked down on stage one night and played it and let it right into a long December.

So the end of that song built and became the intro to a long December. And I've been doing it that way for about a year now. And I'm really loving it. I don't know. It's such a great song. And it was a real cool surprise to then crash it into a long December and start that song from there. So I've been doing it that way. But I've done that with different songs.

I remember doing it with Live Forever, that Oasis song. We were touring in England once, and I went, you know, and figured out how to play Love Forever and then just surprised everybody on stage at one night. With cell phones, too, it's got to be different because if you're going to go do Taylor the One, that's either going to go super viral or it's not. It's going to be kind of weird. Well, it was kind of cool because at some point, midway through the first verse, I always hear the scream from a bunch of girls. Like it happens Because it's not It's not immediately recognizable

As that song Because I'm playing it pretty differently It's kind of inside out But at some point Like two thirds the way Through the third verse Or the first verse There's just a scream

From a bunch of girls Who realize what's going on And then I don't know Whether they're hitting their mom You don't understand mom How has content creation been for you with music Because that's different

For anybody that was You know Playing in the 90s and 2000 I have friends now that are struggling with, man, I have to make content now to go with my music. How has that been for you and you guys? Well, it's kind of a, I was really enthusiastic about social media when it first started. I was on the message boards at AOL in 96 when I realized, oh, here's a way to talk directly to fans. I don't have to go through the press or something.

And then when Twitter came out, I really jumped on that. But the problem is you're not always at the forefront of something. Like you're patting yourself on the back for being on the message boards, you know, 10 years before social media. And then you're patting yourself on the back for building up Twitter. And you don't realize that Instagram is the next thing. Or you don't or you finally get a hold of that. And, you know, as you're older, you're not in touch with the same stuff that kids are.

And so you don't realize that TikTok is really important. You know, it's just inevitable that you fall behind because you're not keyed into the same, you know, zeitgeist as kids are. But yeah, you just kind of adjust. You try to. I mean, I think at this point in my life, I'm always a little behind, which is okay.

It's, you know, it's kind of fun to catch up sometimes. Some of my friends are like, man, I hate singing into a phone. Like, they really have struggled with, like, singing in their songs into a phone to put it on TikTok. Was that ever...

When you shot content, do you shoot it wider? Because you can shoot a video-ish style where it doesn't feel as ridiculous because it does feel kind of weird to put your phone up. and sing right into it. How are you guys doing that? Well, early on, I mean, I don't mind singing into my phone because I was doing it for

voice memos. It was like, wow, I got a thing I can record. I work on new songs. I can record them right and that seemed like the coolest thing in the world to me. I didn't need a recording studio. I had my phone. And then I started doing like, it was a little while to learn how to do all the stuff and learn to edit. You know, I had to go learn how to edit stuff, get the editing apps. And I was making cooking videos because I was bored during the pandemic. So I was making, I was, you know, teaching kind of cooking lessons on on my instagram and then you know i watch a lot of it i see people doing these clips of songs and how you only have to do a whole song but clips of songs are really cool and i kind of like watching them so you know i wised up to doing that but it took me till this record

to wise up to doing that um it's not hard to do them though sometimes doing my phone sometimes we have a videographer who works with us he'll come over and just film me doing stuff or he filmed when we were making the record. He was there with cameras. So, you know, lately we've been using clips of all of us from in the studio that we filmed. And then I had him come over and shoot a bunch of clips of me just doing the vocals because they were a little bit, it wasn't as immediate, the clips from the side away from the mic in the studio. So I wanted to cut a bunch of clips of just my face doing stuff. I called them and said, I want to make videos out of these, but I don't want to just use the studio footage. I want to shoot stuff in front of a screen. And so we did that and

we've been putting those up for spaceman and now for under the Aurora. You mentioned voice notes. So what were you using before voice notes? Was it just a pad of paper all the day? Was it a notebook all the time? Well, I mean, I always use these notebooks. But I also had, there was an app. It was just called like recorder. But it was just an app that had really good compression on it that you just pushed record so I could use it on my computer back then. It was a really great. It was a better app than any I've found since then. It just sort of did it all for you. It had a great compression, a great EQ on it, and it was boneheaded. You just pushed record and play, and it did great recordings. I did a whole record with that app at one point, just called All My Bloody Valentine's.

It was like Valentine's, the week before Valentine's Day, 10 years ago, whenever it was, and I just said, I'm going to record a song. I'm going to learn a cover a day and record a song a day. for the next week leading up to Valentine's Day. I just did seven songs and ended up putting it out and giving it away to all our fans. Do you have any of your original handwritten lyrics to any of the old songs? Oh yeah, I've got all these lyric books, yeah.

They just live somewhere in your house? Yeah, there's like piles of them. I've always written in these books, so I have, these little ones that they're like spiral binders that are about that big. They're like, for school, you know, notebooks. I used them when I was in college too. I don't do it as much anymore.

I find the notes function in my phone is really great because I just lay around. Also, we've all stopped writing. Yeah. So writing's not as like natural as it was. So, you know, with my phone, I can walk around when I'm working on a song, I can just walk around humming stuff to myself and I just, you know, type it into the notes. And I have a lot of lyrics in my notes, but I still use the notebook for stuff too. We were talking a little bit ago about how Gen Z doesn't know, has never written a handwritten letter. And my answer to that was, well, you know, our parents never churned butter. And I'm sure their generation ahead of them was like, I can't believe the kids now. Don't churn butter.

So there are certain skills that you don't have to have, you know, as time goes by. I just feel though, if I use a like GPS, I know how to get nowhere because I GPS everywhere. And if I write everything down into my phone, like I write a bunch of joke ideas into my phone constantly, but I don't remember stuff as well if I'm putting it in digitally. Does your mind remember the same digitally as it as handwritten? No, I mean, I realized last night I was, I can't remember what we're. I was out. to dinner last night and my girlfriend was giving her phone number to somebody like one of our friends and uh I suddenly realized oh that's not cool you don't know her number I mean I knew I don't know

my wife know like seven or eight number I went when she was saying it I was in my head going oh and then the last two numbers I had wrong I'm like wow you don't know your girlfriend's phone number I would be in trouble if I were being held hostage I know nobody's phone number unless it was from like I know my friend Evans dad's number from when I was like 12 like I can remember that one but I don't know anybody's phone number now. Being held hostage comes with a lot of other problems anyways. But first, I need to call somebody. They're like, we demand ransom,

and I'm like, I don't know how to get a hold of anybody. And that's kind of the cops give you one call. I don't know about hostages. Sometimes they do, but what if they just don't like you? Then they will not want to ransom, and you're not hostage. You're just dead. Then you're just dead. Yeah, there's a lot of problems of the hostage situation,

above and beyond the phones, but I get your point. Did you watch White Lotus last night by my chance? I did. You did? No. Okay. No, I'm not done yet. Okay, then...

I was a little disappointed. Well, we're not giving any answers. Not saying anything about it. But a lot of people... So I watched the whole thing, right? My wife had already watched all of it, and I just wanted to watch the finale with her, so I did like seven episodes this past weekend,

just to totally catch up. And I was told by a lot of people, season three was pretty slow. I felt season three, the people in it, and again, no spoilers, not to be as gross as seasons one and two, just generally. You know it's the weird thing

Season one had like six episodes And season two had seven And season three had eight And I thought six would have been great for all of them They'd just be tight He's a really really really really good writer And somehow expanding it just kind of I don't want to rip up it

It's such a good show I had never watched it And then this year My girlfriend talked me into watching it And we watched the first season Like bingeed it Second season bingeed it Third season got through two episodes

And I was like What And she said No, no, that's where we're up to right now. Why are we watching it? You know, I like to binge everything, you know, and she, so then I've been doing it every week. I'm not sure whether it's distorting how it feels to me because I have to wait for it. It felt really padded.

I did all binge all three seasons and I finally finished right before the finale. So my feeling was my, yeah, season three, people didn't feel as gross. Felt pretty good about it. That's cool. But there was, I never felt the need to get back to it. enjoy it while it was on. It was one of those weird slow burn shows for me. I love the other seasons. I just like, I kind of

felt like also, I felt there was a lot of padding this season, but I was also thinking, well, I bet the ending will be great, you know there, because we're going to get there finally. Yeah. Don't worry, everybody. We're not going to say anything about it. We're not going to say it, no, no spoiling there. What else do you guys watch? Did you watch Severance? Watch the first season, and I thought that was

incredible. One of my favorite seasons ever of any show. Yeah, I think we're going to watch the second season after this. We just watched, is it Black Doves, that Kira Nighter show? That was great. It's freaking awesome. I'd be a Black Dove. I'd be good at that. Yeah, you would. Yeah, I'd be... As long as you're not held hostage. Yeah, yeah. Well, I just need to know

a phone number if I'm held hostage. How does writing songs now compare to writing songs 20 years ago? You know, we talked about the difference in digitally you're writing with hand, but like, do you feel the need and do you schedule writing now, or can you only just go when you feel like it?

I just write when I feel it. I don't write a lot. As soon as I started touring and really being in this band, I stopped writing all the time. I wrote every day for 10 years before that when I started writing songs. But then I can't really write on tour because I don't play guitar, I play piano and poorly at that. And then I, so I wouldn't write for like a year and a half because we'd be on tour. So I tended to ever since then, I've tended to just kind of not write for a year or two and then write but 10 songs, whatever the record is. And sometimes there's an extra song or two, but not many.

I don't write a lot of extras, so it was different this time because I, I just think the, I've been sort of changing some of the ways I write and sort of my, the music I was writing was a little more ambitious than my ability to play it. And so I couldn't really tell how the songs were. I finally, I sat on them for a couple years because I hadn't had a lot of confidence in them. and then I called the guys up and said, I wrote, we'd love for me to Z from the first song on the record, and I loved it, and I thought,

I got to figure out what I'm doing with the rest of the songs, and I called, you know, Emmer and a couple of our other guys are bass player and drummer, and said, I need everybody to come to my house for a week. I just need to play this stuff with you. I need to hear how it is with the band, and then I'll know. And when as soon as we started playing it, I was like, oh, wow, I love this stuff.

But this is the first time, a lot of it was in my head. Like, I couldn't really play it, but I knew it. I knew how it was supposed to go, had the chords. I just, my ability to play piano, I couldn't do these songs.

And so I was carrying around in my head. Until I heard them play it, I could describe what I wanted, and it was great. And I was really excited. But that hadn't really happened before. With love from A to Z, whenever the first half came out,

and it was all one track, loved that, thought it was super cool. And then it split up into songs later. I will shout out the name Bobby, two references on the, record. Yeah, I know. It was very inspired by, you know, last time we were hanging out. Thank you very much. Well, Bobby and the Rite Kings, I think, was already existent when we hung out

last time, but this one. But I knew we were going to hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew it was going to happen. Space Man of Tulsa. I get a shout out as well. You're back. Yes, I'm back, baby. Yeah. So when you do new records, how many of these songs do you put in a set list and not? You have so many songs to kind of jump between. I don't know. I mean, the sweet, I really only like playing the suite all together. The guys have tried to get me to, like, just play single songs, but I really like it all as one. So that's a chunk if you're going to play that. I mean, that's 20 minutes of the show right there.

I don't know. I guess it generally depends on the night. We'll start doing it, and you stick them in. I don't know, it's weird. You know, like, you want to play your whole new record. But sometimes there was a time we could do that when everyone was buying all the records and everybody knew all the songs. So maybe if Spaceman-Talza blows up through the roof or under the Aurora does,

or one of them does, we can just play the whole record for people. What's the song that you hear out randomly the most? Of ours? Yeah. I suppose it's probably Mr. Jones. I hear long December a lot, especially it's become kind of a Christmas standard. Like every holiday season, it seems like everybody's covering it, and it shows up like on TikTok and on Instagram, you know, people playing it.

This year, MJ Lenderman was doing a version right around Christmas, and Gracie Abrams sang it at the benefit for the fires. It was awesome. What did you think about? that was cool yeah I mean I always think it's cool I don't know I think our songs are kind of weird sometimes that you know my phrasing's a little difficult I don't I don't hear a lot of people covering us except in bars sometimes you know where you don't necessarily want to hear it as much but have you have you been in a bar and heard someone covering you yeah and what is it's really good I heard a

version of round here a while ago that was like wow that that was really good actually I was impressed do you tell them it's you oh no no well I used to have it used to be obvious it was me before I shaved off the dreads like it was there was no question it was me then I think I'm a little more anonymous now I think I'm a lot more anonymous now was that a big decision to cut off the dreads not really I felt it wasn't a big decision to me I just felt like I was excited I mean it wasn't really that I just kind of did it on a whim you know like but I think it was a big decision for a lot of other people somehow and I get asked about it a lot one of my neighbors lives a few houses down as T-Bone Burnett.

Oh, really? Yeah, and he was over a few weeks ago. We were talking about August and everything after and the wallflowers. What was working with him like as a producer? That's a long time ago. I mean, it's cool. He's really good. He's got, you know, there's a lot of producers that just have, like, a sound.

Like, they've got a studio trick that they do, and that's what their records sound like. T-Bone's not really quantifiable like that. He helps you figure out who you are and who you want to be on a record. I think he's really, it's why he's worked at a lot of bands on their first records. It made a lot of really good first records with bands. Because I think he really helps you define yourself. He's got a thing that, you know, an understanding of music that not everybody has. He's really, really good at that.

He brought the coolest friend over, which is Ringo Star. They came over together. That's pretty legit. That's a strong friend. Yeah, that's a strong friend. Who was responsible for putting you as background vocals of Sixth Avenue Harding? Well, you know, the Wallflowers had made their first album on Virgin, and it's a really good record, but it didn't really make much of an impression. It's not, it didn't really sum up who they were, and Jake and I were friends.

I was bartending at the Viper Room, and he was there a lot, and we would talk about, you know, what we were doing, and he asked me at one point, I think, if I had any advice about that, and I said, well, you know, T-Bone is really good. What I just told you is, like, helping you define yourself, and I felt like that's kind of what that record needed, that he's a real unique guy, and I mean. unique songwriter and singer and that didn't get brought out as much on that first record. And so I suggested T-Bone. And a few months later, I was at home. I lived in Laurel Canyon then, and I got a phone call from either T-bone or Andy Slater, who was Jake's manager. And they're like, we have, we're working on this song and it's just not singing yet.

You know, do you want to come down and sing on it? I was like, which song? He said, Sixth Avenue Hardick. I said, I don't really know that one. I knew a lot of Jake's songs that he was working on. And he said, well, will you just come down the hill? And so I went down and had a beer and listened to it. And then had a beer and sang it a couple times and left.

I mean, it just felt great. I mean, it was like that, that just felt like we figured out exactly. That was just what that song needed. It was a great song. It just needed something to pick up the chorus. And it just felt great right away. I think I only sang it once or twice. And then I went back home and it turned out great.

How long until you actually hear it? I think they sent me a copy the next day but I heard it right then and we went into the controller after I sang it it sounded great I mean that's like

he's got Mike Campbell from the Heartbreakers playing the guitars on that song it's a really good band I think Ben Montanches on that one too from the Heartbreakers I don't know about that

but yeah it just felt great I knew it was great right away it just felt really like sometimes you just figure out the right thing to sing it makes it makes it work S&L just did their 50 years you guys' performance on S&L, one of them,

I'm not sure how many you did, just popped up on my TikTok the other day. This guy named Huggy posts all the music performances on TikTok. What do you remember from SNL? It was a rough week. It had a really hard time. We had said no for a long time when they asked us because we were just sort of like,

we wanted to play around here at Mr. Jones. We wanted to play around here first. We didn't want to edit the songs. We had both Letterman and S&L were asking us to be on, and we just were really determined to do it the right way. It was going to be our first appearance ever on television. They wanted you to edit it for time? Yeah.

They wanted both them edited. They wanted Mr. Jones first. I really wanted to play Round Here first. I didn't want to edit the songs. And so we kind of negotiated with both shows for the longest time until S&L agreed, okay, yeah, you can play them the way you want to, and you can play Round Here First. And then we got there that week,

And they were like, oh, by the way, we changed our mind. And I was like, no. And they said, yeah, no, we're going to have to do it this way. And I said, no, we're doing it this way. It's okay, we'll leave. But we're not doing that. And it was just a difficult week fighting with them all week. And then it was great.

We played great. It made our career. I'll say that. It made our career because we weren't even in the top 200. And that record jumped 40 spots a week for five weeks after we played Saturday Night Live. until we were at number two for the next two years. I mean, it made our career. What did you play first?

Round here. Yeah. And it was great. It was perfect because, like, Mr. Jones is a great song. It really is, but there's a lot of songs like Mr. Jones that are just catchy, you know, kind of rock tunes. But round here is unique, you know, and I think it just like, this is who we are. It's not what you've been hearing before. And it completely made our career.

We were not even in the top 200 before we played SNL. And, you know, a month later, we were at number 10 and then number two or something like that. And, you know, but it was a difficult week. I went there once. My friend, it was Ian McKellen's agent. And when, like, all the Lord of the Ring movies are coming out, he hosted. And there was this one producer who kept getting sent to do all the talking to us, you know. And I was in the green room because they wanted me to come.

I had never been back since then. So it was like eight years later. And I saw this guy walk by in the hallway. And then he came back. and he's like, whoa, I never thought I'd see you again. What's going on? And I was like, nothing. Just my friend represents Ian.

And he's like, oh, cool. Well, you know, no hard feelings. I was like, no, that's fine, man. Do you want to get high? I was like, no, that's cool. I'm all right. Okay, cool. See you later.

It was weird. I was like, he'd look on his face. He's like, wow, I never thought I'd see you again. That's funny. Yeah. The record, so it's the completion of, the 2021, right? So that's what it seems like to me.

So it's the rest of that. This is all one album. So why was this a whole body of work that you, you know, had been working on and recording and now you're done with it? Or to just keep going after 2021 and keep building on that? No, I just wrote the suite. It was really like a standalone thing. And then we were interrupted by the pandemic anyways.

And then when the pandemic was over, I went back to my friends. He's got a farm in the west of England, which is where I wrote the whole suite. And I worked, and I wrote a lot of this stuff. And on the way home, I stopped in London to sing on my friend's record. They've got this band, Gang of Youth, Australian Band. They live in London now.

And when I got home from that, a little while later, they sent me the record, and it was so good. It's called Angel in Real Time. And I just had this thought, like, wow, these songs aren't as good as their songs. I thought this stuff was really great, but I'm seeing it in perspective compared to their stuff. You know, it needs some work. And I actually went back to the drawing board,

and I rewrote the chorus for Under the Aurora. Like, I rewrote a bunch of the stuff. And I thought it was really good at that point, but that's kind of why I didn't have a lot of confidence in it. And I sort of sat on it for two years before I wrote, with love from A to Z and then called the guys, like I told you. But it was an experience I've never had before. I've never kind of, like, finished things and thought,

oh, wait, they're not that, they're not good. enough. But it was, that's kind of why it took a little longer. But, uh, originally I was just writing the suite. But then I wanted to write this stuff to go along with it. You mentioned you went to Taylor Swift's tour. What did you see there that was inspiring? It was just really well thought out. You know, I mean, I write songs and sing. And there's a lot that goes into a concert that has to do with like set design. We don't do a ton of that. If you want to do visuals and videos and stuff, there's lot of thought that has to go into what's the right visual to put behind your song. And I know how complex that thought process can be.

And we don't do a lot of video. We're generally set moods with lights, but the thought that had gone into the visual presentations at that tour, like how it was really moving. It was really, really good. And this combination of the sets, the incredible video presentation, and the movement on stage. The whole thing, there's just a lot of complex, creative thought that goes into making a show like that.

You know, it's practically like making an entire movie, you know, and also it's three plus hours long. That's a lot, you know, that I was really impressed with the amount of creative people from different disciplines that had come together and made that really impressive show that wasn't just like lazarium, you know, like lasers like you know you see it it was like moving each song was really thought out all the things that went into each song were really thought out and they really worked as i was just very

impressed by it it's not the kind of show we put on but i thought it was brilliant yeah one of the old man things that that i say kids miss out on now are the secret tracks and there's a couple different secret tracks that i think of with you guys and one was the uh maybe it was hard candy you you hold down the fast forward and you guys did the joney mitchell song before Vanessa Carlton came on. Was that hard candy? At the end of hard candy? Yeah, we had to rush out the initial pressings of that record so we didn't have Vanessa's

parts on there yet, I think. But he had to hold down the fast forward, but just barely to get to it or let you fall asleep with it on and then all of a sudden the song startles you. But even before that, when it was the on desert life. Yeah, and at the end of that, that art is no longer

because now if there's a track that minutes long, you just see that and you're like, well, why would you guys pick those songs to do hidden, and who was the one that suggested to do a hidden track? Well, sometimes it's just something I really like that doesn't work in the flow of the record. Like, it just didn't feel like part of the record, like kid things on a desert life, on desert life. Just didn't feel like part of the record, but I really loved it. And thematically, it was part of the record, but it was done really low-fi and it just, it didn't fit in the, I tried to fit it in the flow. And I couldn't sequence it. I mean, I know nobody listens to records anymore, but I really like to make records,

and I want you to be able to sit down and listen to it all the way through, even if nobody's going to do it. That's what I really like. I like making that work. And sometimes I just couldn't get a song to fit, which meant I left a couple songs. I love off records, and I hit a couple, just because that seemed kind of fun. It was like a nice Easter egg for fans. That was the thing with the kid things. It just didn't.

It fit thematically, but it didn't flow. the record. But Big Y'all Taxi was different because we just spent this one weekend doing all these covers for B-sides while we were mixing the record, we were like in another little room just cutting cover songs. And that just turned, we had this kind of acoustic hip-hop version of Big Y'Lah Taxi that we play in concert. But we wanted to try doing a remix with it. We like went out to Farrell back then. It was just starting in the Neptunes then. Went back to

him, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis from the time. But we weren't able to sort of get any of it done in time. And Ron Fair came and said, hey, I know you've been doing this with all these other guys, but I actually did a version and I think it works really well. And he sent it to me. And I was like, oh, that does work. That's really cool. Thanks. And then

he wanted to have someone sing on it. And right before we were mixing hard candy, He was in there mixing a record with this with Vanessa Carlton, her first record, you know. And I had heard a bunch of it because he was in there, you know. And Jack Joseph Puege had played me some of her songs. Not that they were really good. And I knew that I had to leave for tour before we were going to be able to finish it. And I thought it might be intimidating for someone to come in and sing on one of our tracks,

but he could get a lot out of a woman he had just worked with. Well, she would be comfortable enough with him to actually like improv on our track. And she did. Yeah, it worked out great. It's funny because she was this total unknown singer And then by the time it came out, she was Very popular The Complete Suites comes out May 9th

Man, you guys are doing a lot of shows too Do you do the touring where you just go away And don't come back for a couple months? Yeah, mostly Yeah, weekend, that's sort of a Nashville thing I know the weekend. Friday, Saturday, maybe Thursday, maybe Sunday, but back home.

Yeah, that sounds very convenient. It is, yeah. So you guys just go, because you guys are going like Europe too, the whole thing. Yeah, we're doing the whole summer is gone. We're out on tour on a America. You know, he passed through home, wherever your home is. You usually pass through it. And then we'll go to Europe in the fall. That's pretty cool. A lot of dates from June and we'll put

them up in the notes here on the podcast. But from June, yeah, all the way up until November 1st. Yeah. Yeah. Until it gets cold. Yeah. Do you do cold weather shows or most of your shows amphitheaters? Well, not during the summer, but other times a year. Do you ever play a long December and December and the crowd goes, ah, like just because you yell December, it's like yelling a city when you're in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said our month. He said our month. This is crazy. I should write one for each month because then I would have hits any time of the year. Yeah, that would be good. We're going to play some music here in just a second. Oh, by the way, I should tell you, not that it matters. I looked. It matters, man. It doesn't matter, but this was the first book

ever wrote, and it was bestseller for a little bit. It was pretty cool. I'm pretty proud of it. But I thanked you guys in the back of the book. Really? I did. Can I have a copy? Well, you don't want, No, no, it's not sure. You can have a copy, but it wasn't for that. I just, it was laying here by my foot, and I was like, you know, because you guys are, you guys are my favorite band of all time. And so I said, I wonder if I thanked them in the credits, like the book. And I did.

You're on the back page where I was like, hey, I want to thank County Crows. I know you came to that show in Nashville a few years ago, and they told me you were there, but then you didn't come backstage. Yeah, because I don't want to be that guy. Like, I just want to, and honestly, and I think you'll understand this, I didn't want to not like you. because I love my relationship with your music and I didn't want to not like you

and so I was like you know what I'm good because the place I'm in now with County Crows it couldn't be better I hear you I hear you if you come backstage at some point I promise not to be a bitch well now I like you though because now I feel good about it

but that was really the reason they were like do you want to go meet Adam and I was like no I just enjoyed the show I was like I do not because right now I love Adam and he might be a d'I well and not even that but like I mentor doing stand-up and some days you just don't feel good. That's true. And so I just didn't want it to be there.

So next time, I probably still won't, but right now I'm going to say I will. Can I have a book or else you're being a shit right now? No, I'll give you a book. I'll give you a book. It's really cool that we're thanking the back of the book. I want one. How did you thank him? I said, I just thanked him for the music for like all the, you know, I mean.

Yeah, read it. Read it. Okay. What if it's like, Adam, I'm in love with you. I want to have your babies. Also A big sad hug to the counting crows For making lots of great music

That makes me sad by feeling happy By feeling sad That's pretty great actually Yeah, it's nice Yeah, because I mean that's how I felt So I got a little choked up That was actually pretty good

Yeah, well thank you Well, and I'll clarify some importance behind that And some of Bobby's upbringing You can have a lot of space to feel So I think your music gave him that space to feel Sad hug all around. I'm not making fun of you. That's actually really sweet.

I'm kind of touched by that. But any hug at all was happy for me. Now we're going too far. That's right. Okay. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.

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Okay, welcome back, everybody. We have Miles here who I met Miles in Las Vegas. Miles, everybody prepared yourself if he has a British accent. Miles, how's it going? I'm good. How are you? Good. So, buddy, lives in Canada, but you grew up where?

So it's complicated. I was born in Scotland. Oh, it's not British. My bad. No, it is. Oh, it is. Scotland's in the UK. So any country in the UK is.

is considered British. Oh. But what about Scottish? Yeah, that's like, you can be English from England. Walk us to it, yes. England is also in the UK, so that's still British. Okay. You can be Scottish from Scotland.

Scotland is also in the UK. It could be Welsh. So it'd be like an American accent, but an American southern accent. Sure. Okay. Yeah. But my accent's all messed up because I was born in Scotland, grew up in England.

I moved over to the Middle East. I was in Dubai for six years when I was 18. So at 18 years old, you moved to Dubai. Yeah. For what? Radio. So you decided at 18 that you wanted to pursue a career and why Dubai was that the first job? And how did you find a job in Dubai? It was crazy. So I'm a radio nepo baby. My dad is in radio. Where? In Scotland. So he's been a morning show host for like 40 years. And now he's in management. So for years, like out of school when I was interning and stuff, I was always Robin's kid. Oh, you're Robin's son. You know? And I,

I kind of wanted to move away and become my own man. It's no further than going to the Middle East. Yeah. So how did you find a job there in what, I don't know, I think I'd be scared to go? So basically, when my dad was doing a morning show, I was telling this to Amy off the air. He was doing a contest with a new airline, and they offered him some flights to, like, New York, I think, Brussels, like Belgium and Dubai. And it was right before 9-11. So him and my mom originally picked New York.

Then 9-11 happened. He was like, well, we're not going to go there anymore. I tried Dubai. So they went to Dubai, went for a week, had an amazing time. When they came back, the sales rep was like, how was it? Did you enjoy the campaign, the flights and everything? They were like, yeah, it was great. But they were like dredging for oil off the coast of the hotel in the beach. And they were like, that's not dredging for oil. They're building a man-made island called the palm. It's like a palm tree with like, it's insane. It looks like something up like the Sims or something. It's crazy. My mom and dad bought a place in Dubai off plan when

they were building that My Made Island. So then every single, like, school vacation, we would go there every single time, like, Easter, summer, Christmas even. How far away is that from where you were? Seven hours. Oh, not even that bad. That's closer than if we went to Hawaii. Yeah, seven hours, four-hour time difference.

And basically when this one time, this Easter vacation, we were there, I think it was 2011, maybe even early, 2010, there was this volcano in Iceland that erupted. This is the most far-fetched story ever, by the way. But there was a volcanic ash cloud that shut down the entire European airspace. So my dad was stuck there for over two weeks. He was off his morning show. And everyone was talking about it. It was like a really big story.

So he wanted to find a studio in Dubai to get on the air and broadcast to Scotland and do his morning show. So I went in with him, kind of, you know, just shadowing him, I guess. And they were like, what do you do? And I was like 17 at the time. I was like, I'm still in school, but I really want to get into radio. And they said, would you consider coming out and doing like a summer internship? And I was like, absolutely. And at this point, you already felt comfortable in Dubai because you had been so many times.

Exactly. Yeah. So I did kind of know my way around and I knew to be respectful and, you know, how the laws work and stuff. Because it is kind of, it's very conservative, like compared to what it used to be for the Middle East. But it's definitely different. You know, you can't talk about alcohol. You can't talk about gambling and all those kind of things. As in on the air or in general? Both kind of. Well, yeah, mostly on the air, I mean, yeah. Okay. So you're like, okay, cool. And so when you turn 18, they offer you a job? Yeah, morning show producer. Like on air slash morning show producer.

And what did your dad say about you moving to Dubai after having been there a bunch of times? It's different being on vacation or holiday, as you guys call it. What do you say about moving there? He thought it was cool because they still had their place there. Is that where you lived? Yeah, until they kicked me out. And they were like, okay, we want it back now. This is our holiday spot, you know. And so how long were you in Dubai? I was there for like five, six years. And what was your assent like in radio there?

Were you producer the whole time and then you left Dubai to go get a different job? Or did you move into a different role to a different role? I moved into a different role. I actually moved from one station to another to like the biggest station out there, which is Virgin Radio. So I was there. There's a guy that does the morning show host. He's a good friend of mine. He's called Chris Fade. He's like a really big Australian radio personality in Dubai.

He's like the Ryan Seacrest of the Middle East. But he's Australian. Yeah. And they accept that? He's Australian-Lebanese, which really works because he's got like the kind of Western side. of his heritage and then he's also got like the Middle East inside. So he really just talks to a lot of the demographic there. So you worked for him? I worked with him. He was the assistant program director at the time and then I was doing the night show. Okay, so you had your own show then? Yeah. And so you're there

and then when do you leave and why do you leave? I got fired. For doing what? I just really didn't get on with the program director. So personality conflict? Yeah, personality conflict. Okay. And then you're like, now what do I do? I move back to the UK. I didn't want to go. I didn't want to stay there. I went through a breakup as well. I kind of had a little bit to do with it. So I want to just sidetrack for a second. To me, I've never been to Dubai. Just from what I see about it on the news, it doesn't feel like it'd be super safe. Is it? So safe. More safe than even here. Define safe. Are you talking about like? I don't know. I don't want to get scooped up and then thrown into a Dubai penitentiary and

chop my head off because I did because I showed my knee in public. or something. Have you ever been arrested here? No. So you'll never get arrested there. Just don't do anything you wouldn't do in your normal daily life. But I want to. I want to go to Dubai and go crazy. Wait, wait, so I could urinate in an alley behind a building there?

But you can't do that here. But I've never been arrested for it. Like don't get caught, basically. So don't be... So are there bars? Yeah, loads. Yeah, it's crazy. That was my university. That was my college being in Dubai because I was 18, right? So that was

my going out, partying, having fun. I was also DJing after the show as well in clubs and stuff. And I had the best time. It was crazy. I used to have friends that come over and they'd be like, you live like this? This is crazy. I'd be like, no, I'm only doing this because you're here. So do you feel like the representation of it because in the Middle East is a bit unfair?

100%. I think when I started off by saying I moved to the Middle East. What I should have said was I moved to Dubai. Because I think when people hear the Middle East, especially in North America, they're like, whoa. Yeah, I do. Even when you go Dubai, I'm like, whoa, Middle East, but you have to be really rich to live there. because I see all the really expensive things. Hey, it's tax free.

What do you mean? No tax. Like no income tax? Yeah. No sales tax? They introduced like the smallest, like luxury goods tax. I think it's like 2.5% or something, but no tax. Wow.

Yeah. So that was fun. Looking up jobs now. I'm interested. I always tell everyone it balances out, right? Because you're spending so much money. It's really expensive there, especially if you want to drink. Alcohol is really expensive because everything's being imported.

Nothing's grown there really. It's difficult to like. like to make things there. Would you ever want to go back and live there? No, but I really appreciate going back now and enjoying it as what it is designed for, and it's designed to be a vacation place. So you will go back? 100%.

I got engaged there to my Canadian fiancé. So you, okay, so we're going to get to Canada. So you move back to... To the UK. Which part? This place in England called Gloucester. Tiny, tiny place. Tiny radio market.

Okay, so to do radio? Yeah, to do a morning show. So you're doing mornings in Gloucester? Yeah. Is it Gloucester, England, UK? Yeah. And how'd that go? It went really well for a year.

I had the best on-air year, I think, in terms of growth and learning how to do a solo morning show, just me and a producer. I loved it. It was for a really big brand, but one of their local affiliates. The funny thing is, my dad was on one of those local affiliates to doing a morning show. We were doing the same hours, playing the same songs in two different markets at the same time for the same brand. The station was called hard. So you weren't competing against each other. You were working for the same company.

Yeah. Got it. Yeah. And so how long were you there until you moved? I was there for a year. And then all of a sudden, I think there was 25 local morning shows. We attended this group like programming meeting. And everyone kind of knew that they were going to scrap one of the local shows.

We just didn't know which one. We thought it was going to be afternoon drive. But it was mornings. So they canned 25 morning shows like that. You and your dad? Yeah. Dang, same time. My mom was like, oh, oh.

So then what happens? The next day, we got told to go back on the air. We started to work out the rest of the couple months, knowing that we were just losing our jobs. The next day, I was with my producer in the studio, and he was like, well, what are you going to do? And I was like, I don't know. I'm going to look at, like, see who I know and where they are in the world.

I don't want to go back to Dubai. I was like, I've been there, I've done that. I always wanted to move to the U.S., but it's really difficult with V. visas, especially if you don't really have any experience over there yet. But with Canada, the UK and Canada, they're in the Commonwealth. So your passport kind of works and it's easy to get a visa. So basically, I knew that my old program director who hired me in Dubai was in Vancouver. He was working for a station called KISS. So I booked a flight to Vancouver on my own.

I gave myself a month flying back from Toronto, so kind of West Coast, East Coast, with no plan in the middle. And I just thought I'd network the hell out of it and try and meet as many people as I could, you know, just try and, you know, hey, can I, can I meet you? Can we go for a coffee? Can we go for a drink? This is what I do. You know, I've got my show reel. I've been in Dubai. Do you save up money from your jobs? Do you have enough saved up to do this? They gave us like severance pay from that morning show, so I used all of it for the trip. So it was like, all or nothing really. On my last day in Toronto, I met my now program director. And it really worked out well. It was right before COVID. They hired me. And I was like, perfect. I'll take the job.

job, went back to the UK, got my visa. That was in July of 2019, and I moved there in September 2019. So you've been there. I saw a video of you and Richard Branson, which I thought the picture at first was a fake plastic or like a wax, Richard Branson, but he was literally at your station. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's the big, big, big box. Sure, he owns Virgin. Right, because I'm at Virgin Radio. So he came out because his airline Virgin Atlantic had reintroduced the service from Toronto to London, Heathrow in England. So he was promoting that. So he was promoting that. So as part of that, you know, whenever he's in town, you know, I'm sure he's been at the Virgin Hotel down the street. I'm staying there here in Nashville.

For free? I got a good deal. You see his room has like a pole in the... It's pretty nice. Yeah, it's the room does. Yeah. It's like a pull on the tights on the top of the whole... Anyway, go ahead.

It's pretty nice. Yeah, so, yeah, I interviewed him when he came out. I'd already met him before because he came out to Dubai for the 10-year anniversary of that station in Dubai. and we did a broadcast from the top of the tallest skyscraper in the world. It's called the Birch Khalifa, and that was real fun. So, yeah, and I met some amazing people along the way. And how long have you been at the station now? Five years, just over five years.

And what's your role? I'm the national night show host. And top 40? Yeah, top 40, yeah. It's 12 stations. I would imagine anybody in Canada then that's going to do interviews comes by where you are. If you're the... Yeah.

Especially in Toronto. Yeah. Like, you get to see a lot of cool people. A hundred percent. Yeah. The cool thing about Toronto as well is, if you're into movies, Mike, the Toronto International Film Festival, TIF, is one of the biggest film festivals in the world. So we get loads of stars coming in September for that. But then outside of that, we've also got a huge, like, number of huge venues that, you know, ours perform at.

A couple of questions about living in Canada. It's cold. It is cold. And I made the mistake of visiting first in July. When it wasn't as cold. Yeah, yeah. What a mistake? What outdoor sports do you know.

they do up there? They ski, they snowboard. What about, there's really no golf, right? Skate. Yeah, there's golf. But I mean, for like a window, I mean, the window's like open and closed, right? The courses are just about to open at the end of the month. What about pickleball? Yeah, it's big, it's big. And paddle, paddle? Yeah. Is it Paddle? Is it Paddle? I don't know, but it's basically similar. It's awesome because they, you bounce it off walls and stuff. Glass walls. Yeah, we don't have that here, but it's like racquetball meets kind of a paddle ball type thing. Yeah. Do you play, do you play those? No, I don't. I play golf. I play golf. Yeah. How can you play golf if it's only like three months a year?

It's quick, yeah. You've got to get out there as much as you can. So Miles and I met at IHeart Festival in Vegas. And we were just walking to the hall and I stopped and talk with him. And I was like, hey man, if you ever want to come and just like see what we're doing, I don't know that'll help, but come by. And so he came down and flew down for a couple days. I feel like Charlie in the chocolate factory. I've been listening to this show since when you guys were on top 40, when I was in Dubai, actually.

The reason I found you, I think, I was just looking for, like, radio shows to listen to on the way in, because with the time difference, you know, we use, like, prep sites and prep sheets for those of you aren't in the industry. There's loads of prep that you can get for morning shows. Most of them are tailored for morning shows. But by the time I was on the air doing a night show, it was already, like, done. It was, like, used. It was old news. So I would always listen to, like, West Coast, or not West Coast, but, like, Western Time Zone or North American Radio. shows. I found you guys. And like I stole tell me something good and and loads of stuff like that. So yeah, I always, I always remember listening to you guys. And yeah, just never stop really. And when I remember your last show on Top 40 Radio moving to country and I was like, wow, I was like, do they know country music? I feel like all I've heard them is talk about

Kesha and Justin Timberlake. That's funny. Justin Bieber. Yeah. But you guys have you've absolutely killed it. So congrats. That last show's funny. I have a picture in my house of the last show that's in a office. I haven't thought. I hadn't thought about that last show until you brought it up last time we were talking because you had said you'd heard that show.

I remember when you all left the studio one by one. One by one. I was in a coffee shop in Dubai crying. Oh. Listening to that. Yeah, I still remember it. That's awesome.

So this is how crazy his workplace is. They, one, they allowed him to come down here and he's working from studios here. Did they pay for you to come down here? No, I just paid my flights. I got a really good deal. on the hotel. Do you fly down here, Virgin? No, no, no, no, Air Canada. I think they have that here, do they? No, we don't? International? I don't know. I've not seen a Virgin America. I took a

New York to L.A. flight with Virgin. No, I mean to Nashville. No, maybe not to Nashville. I've flown Virgin America before. It's awesome. You got on there are like lights. Yeah. When you walk through, it's like red lights, green lights. I believe they were one of the first airlines, I think Virgin Atlantic, to have a stand-up bar like in the 80s. Oh, that's smart. That's cool. On the plane. I didn't see that. We need to bring that back. Yeah. Hey, how far is Toronto from here? Is it a long way?

Two hours? Yeah, New York. Stop it. Yeah. You should come up. Two hours? Yeah, come up. I've never been to Canada.

Just don't come in winter. It's too cold. No, I would never do that. Mike, we went and it was not quite winter, but it was getting there. Yeah, it was getting a little cold. It was cold. But it wasn't like super cold. And I was like, if this is like mid cold, this sucks.

Everybody was super nice. Everybody's awesome. Well, your show is obviously on the IHart Radio Canada Country affiliate is called Pure Country. Yeah. So obviously your show goes on. The same time as mine. So we're head-to-head.

Competitors. And you know what's weird? Is this dude, he met one chick in Canada and he's marrying her? Yeah, that's right. I got to Toronto that week in September, and within a week I met my now beautiful fiancé Heather. So you met more than one chick. You just met her, and then it was over.

Yeah, I was like, can you get me a permanent residency? And she was like, yeah, done. When did you get engaged? We got engaged in May 2023. And you're not married now? No. Are you getting married? Okay. Here we are. No one knows that. Oh, you are? Yeah, we have to reveal it here. No, it's fine. Breaking news. That's okay.

So you're married just for status legally? No, so it's not, it's nothing to do with that. We're getting married. We're getting deported, Amy. Yeah. Oh, man, that's just got awkward. Have you ever seen 90-day fiancé? That's me. No. Basically, we're getting married in Scotland where I'm from and most of my family live. It's in a castle. Amazing venue. Can't wait. That's in July. But to actually get married officially, you have to provide like a certificate by the time you get over there. So we went to a park recently in Toronto with this wedding officiant. And it was the most like, it was like homeless people in the park. We're getting married. It was like a 10-minute ceremony. So we got the legalities, the formalities of it over and done with. So we are officially married. Congratulations. Thank you. So will you celebrate your anniversary like in July or will you celebrate it in the homeless people in the park? In July. Maybe we'll do something in the park as well.

I do So Miles is here He's gonna be here in the next couple days But I do have to get to This spill the tea Because I know we put it in the teaser And we had a little issue With our video at first

So Ray do we have this ready Yep So someone here on the show This has not on Miles By the way This is not about Miles I put this in it No no

I was like here No no I put this in the description of the video So I need to make sure we do it So people that are here Are like I never heard that spill the tea

So someone on the show anonymously wanted to spill the tea on somebody else. So first, Ray, would you play Spill the Tea? Let's Spill the Tea! And so this is anonymous. They're using the voice changer. It's 31 seconds. Hit it, Ray.

This message is about Eddie. Does he not understand when you water a plant that you need to have something underneath it to catch the water? Eddie brought us plants and thought, oh, what a great gift. But one sits outside the studio. and Eddie continues to water it and he pours a bunch of water in it and the water just comes out the bottom of the plant

and leaks all over the table and floor but Eddie doesn't care about keeping our workspace clean our common areas clean I'll just pour water in this plant and who cares if it leaks all over the floor Eddie do better Okay that's anonymous I wonder who that was

yeah that was so not enough I was surprised I don't know that was Eddie your answer to that Yeah I really couldn't understand much of it because it was anonymous but I guess like You're being sloppy. There's water everywhere from you with this plant.

But that's not my plant. I don't even know what they're talking about. Are you watering it? No. Oh, then. I don't even know who. Like, I gave you Amy. I didn't accept it.

Right. So I gave yours to someone else. It's not even here. And then I gave Amy one and lunchbox. Lunchbox said he took his home. Yep. So I guess that's Amy's. Well, I'm not watering it.

So I don't know, man. Who's watering it? Scoob, do we know anything about this? I don't know. There's one over here on the table of it. It's got some water underneath it. I'm not sure. Or maybe the cleaning lady waters it maybe.

Let's just get rid of it. Let's just say this. I mean, whoever it was anonymous may have been sitting there and watch Eddie unscrew a bottled water and pour water into it right there on that table. Eddie is watering it. I did? I don't remember that. Obviously lunch boxes who...

So yeah, he just threw himself on the bus. He's the anonymous. But I think he took that. It said, I'll die on my sword to say... Yeah, because you denied watering it. So I was like, all right, if you're going to lie about watering it, I'll go ahead and reveal myself on this one. So why are you water...

Why don't you just take it home? I guess I will. Yeah, I guess if Amy doesn't want it. Well, how do you know that's fine? Because Lunchbox took his home. Where's Bobby's? Bobbies, I gave it to someone else in the building. Oh, that's mine then.

She was like, how am I getting busted here? Hold on. Let's get all the plants out. We're getting the habit of leaving stuff out there. Let's not get in the habit. I don't care who Scuba puts in charge of every day making sure that our little lobby is, I'm not saying pick and span, but. We got some stuff from Walmart last week on Friday.

They send it a bunch. They have a new food line. People send stuff all the time. This stuff's still sitting there like half eaten. Yeah, we're snacking on it like doing commercials. Then move it in the snack room because it's been there for like four days. I don't want to.

Anything you take in the snack room will be gone. Then the sales ladies come flying in. It doesn't even sit in the lobby for four days because it doesn't look good. Yeah. We look like slabs. Question. What if we just get like a bottom for the plant and then it's like a welcome. Like it's a, it's not a bad plant.

It's just it needs a bottom. We can't even. keep snacks not looking like they're tossed and there's garbage everywhere all the time so we'll work on plants and maybe vases pictures, all that later I was going to see if we could get a

I forget the exact kind I'll look it up but there's a particular plan that's really good for the air in here and I want to put... No plants in here. What? No plants in here. We need Bobby. No plants in here. Okay but it'll get knocked over this carpet is terrible. We can't have

anything nice. Somebody's going to Water it. We can't have anything nice. We'll be gone for a week vacation. It'll die. Don't you want cleaner air? Hey, why don't we get like a pet porcupine and a terrarium in here as well? I was going to say a gumball machine is good for morale in the studio.

We have learned. The one thing we've learned, we can't have anything nicer living because it dies or it breaks. Dang. Am I wrong? No. Like a fish would be cool. And it would die. Yeah, that would be cool.

Yeah, that would be cool. die. The tank breaks in here. Water everywhere. Around all this equipment. Spider plant. That's what it is. That ship is sailed.

No, a chlorophytum. I gave you a money plant. You didn't even want that. Why don't even want a spider plant? Because air lunchbox brings in diseases. And if we have a spider plant, it keeps it. Says Ms. COVID. That's true.

She'd have COVID in here for a week. Okay. Use infection. Okay. Now we're on it. Let's go. Disease roast off. Also, don't even get me started on the tuberculosis.

loses you gave me. Exactly. Didn't give it to you. We never made out. Okay, syphilis. Yeah. All right. We're out of here.

Thank you, everybody. Miles, good to see you. Miles is going to be here for a couple days. Thank you. I think that's all for now. We're going to go. All right. Shut her down, boys.

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