The Bobby Bones Show - Morgan & Eddie Walk Down News Memory Lane & Go Down The Rabbit Hole

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

Morgan and Eddie's yap session is back! This time, things get really, really deep. After talking about their time working for the news and how their careers took different turns, they go down a rabbit hole. They share their current feelings about all the happenings in life right now, and Morgan may be wearing her tin foil hat. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Behind the scenes with a member of the show. Happy Sunday, everybody. We are hanging out here on Best Bits, and Eddie is joining me. What's up, Eddie? What's up, Morgan? You came back a little bit quicker this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did, I did. Just to give the people some inside baseball to it.

Eddie is, like, with all the cruising stuff happening, I'm trying to get some stuff recorded early. I'm trying to record some stuff on the cruise for Best Bit, so it can all be intertwined. And so I'm just kind of moving everything around. Are you excited for the cruise? I'm really excited to, like, be in somewhere warm. Yeah. You know? I'm at the point where I'm dreaming of being in the middle of the ocean.

Yes. Like, because I've never been in the middle. I've gone deep sea fishing where it's probably five, six, maybe ten miles off offshore. Yeah. But not like where you're just gone. Oh, you can't see any borders? I mean, yeah, yeah, you do that. You do that when you go deep sea fishing.

But it's only like, I think after you pass like two miles, you don't see anything. Well, it's also a lot different when it's dark out too. I know. It's the coolest thing to be on top of a ship and look out. Yeah. Okay, tell me all about it. And you look out, you're on like the top deck and you just look out and it's just dark. Is it peaceful out there?

It's so peaceful. I mean, there's obviously stuff happening on the cruise to, like, you hear noises and things happening. There's clubs and there's people and there's things happening. But if you go on the top deck, typically, it's pretty quiet and tame in the evenings. Oh, my God. Are people making out of there? That's what I picture. For sure.

That's what I picture, like, a bunch of jacks and, uh, what's her name from Titanic? Oh, you're just, uh, Kate. Jacket, yeah, it's not Kate. I think, whatever. Is it an actresses name of Kate. Yeah, Kate Winslet. Kate Winslet is... Leo and Kate.

Yeah. Hold on. That's going to bother me. It's Jack and... I want to say Diane because you're saying Jack first, but it's not. Hold on, hold on. Don't tell me, don't tell me. Jack.

I remembered it before I even saw it. Okay, what is it? Rose. Jack and Rose. That's what I picture a bunch of Jack and Rose is up there just making out. Kind of. But you can't really have a Titanic moment because that where that part of the ship is is typically secured. You're talking about the I'm the king of the world.

You can't do that. Some of them you can get close, but most of the time that particular area is blocked off because it's unsafe. So you can't exactly do that. Do you see any other ships out there? Like any other boats? We have before. Like yachts or private yachts, stuff like that. See, man, that's what I'm talking about.

It just depends on where you're at and how close you are to things and all that. So cool. What about pirates? Pirates? Any pirates show up at all? I've never seen any pirates. People were telling me that pirates do exactly. And I know that they do exist, but do they exist in the Caribbean as like, like kind of like Jack Sparrow, like Pirates of the Caribbean.

I don't know if they're quite what you're picturing from the movies, pirates. No, but I'm picturing Captain Phillips. Those were pirates. Who's Captain Phillips? What are you talking about? Who's Captain Phillips? I am the captain now. From what movie?

Captain Phillips. I've never seen that movie. Is that the name of the movie? Is that the name of the movie? Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks, he's a cargo ship captain. It is the name of the movie. Captain Phillips.

And the pirates overtake the ship. Okay. Maybe more so like that. True story. Well, I will say, like, I had a girl come on my podcast and she was actually taken hostage by pirates. Shut up.

In Somali. That's a lot further away. I think that's Captain Phillips. Okay. Something like that. Somali and coast. I know they exist. They are very real.

Yeah. But I just don't know that they're quite like Jack Sparrow. Pirates of the Caribbean. Morgan, I wasn't picturing a freaking pirate with a patch and a pair. Like, I don't know what your images are. But the pirates of the Caribbean, like that was really, the Caribbean was the mecca for pirates. You know, like they lived on this port called Port Royal, which was like a pirate port. Now underwater, like sunk or whatever, but that was like their hub.

Okay. Where they all lived and partied and got drunk and had prostitutes. And then they would go from there to like go steal from Spanish ships. Okay. So to your point, yes, piracy exists. in the Caribbean, though modern piracy differs from the historical like golden age. It mostly involves armed robbery

against yachts and commercial vessels with incidents reported near St. Vincent, Granada, and in the waters around Jamaica and Antiqua. Wow. So I don't know that there will be where we're going. Yeah. Particularly, they're probably a little bit more commercialized so that might stop some of that from happening

and more security. But Eddie, you want to know what's something funny. When we used to go on Cruise's younger, I have pictures where I'd get off ship and I'd be in my swimsuit because we're like going to the beach on the on the place and I'm posed with men with guns like army men working work it like they they're part of the government on the island yep doing security protecting like everywhere we went they probably love that they're like yeah come on picture time well imagine this girl from Kansas right going to this island

in Jamaica and I'm like what there's armed soldiers what are they doing here that that was so foreign of a concept to me sure sure So, like, seeing them excited me. And I thought it was cool to, like, get a picture with them. And they were cool with it. They were like, yeah, no problem. Yeah, I mean, they just sit there. I'll have to Google when you start talking about a story.

I'll Google to show you a picture. But it's wild, really the security and stuff that I, and that was, gosh, 15 years ago now. So I can't even imagine what the security levels look like on them now. So tell me more about your friend and the pirates. Like, so what happened there? Like, was she on a boat? Was she on a ship? No.

So she was actually, like, a teacher over in Africa. And she was not missionary work, but she was just basically teaching English to people and became, got a certain job role with kind of attached to the government there, but not. And then she was on this mission to go teach people in this rural part of Africa and ended up being kidnapped in the like caravan as she was leaving it. So she went and did it. Everything was fine. They were on their way out. And they were literally leaving. Whoa.

And they got kidnapped by pirates. And she was held hostage for like... But she was inland. She was on land. On land. And then so the pirates took her on a boat. Yep. And they held her for ransom her and another one of her colleagues.

Oh my gosh. And they were like kept, I want to say it was 93 days. Is she your age? No. She's older. I want to say she's in her like late 30s, early 40s now. And at the time, this was, gosh, I'm trying to recall the thing. We did like a really extensive interview on it.

This is crazy. But she did, it's like been like 15 years now, I want to say. say. But what was really wild about it too is the same, it was, um, she was rescued by the same people who found Osama bin Laden, that same undercover like militant. Like seal nine or whatever. Yeah, seal team six. Seale team six. Yes. So close. I was there. I'm telling you, she shared so much in that interview. So like she was held hostage, the things that happened while she was held hostage and like being held for ransom. They wanted money. From who? From anybody. Whether it Was it the organization?

Like, either it could be the organization gives it. Or, well, it was an insane amount of money. It was in the millions, right? So they were just, whoever was willing to pay it for their lives, yes. And then that's when SEAL Team 6 came in and rescued her and her colleague. And insane gunfire, like all kinds of things. The story is wild. And you knew her personally.

I found her on Instagram and I asked her to come do an interview. No way. Yeah. Her story is is super emotional and her just wild that that exists out in the world. Yeah. Right. I know. And we fantasize the whole pirate thing or any kind of like name like that because, yeah, like Hollywood stories or whatever books.

But yeah, I mean, that's some real stuff. I mean, even back in the day, like when pirates blackbeard, they were scary. There was nothing funny or fun about like, you know, a pirate story. But if you think about it too, and I've always long had this conspiracy theory, like genuinely movies, entertainment, all of that is one of two things. It's either meant to, like, desensitize us to something that's already happening and just trying to make us see it as entertainment. Or it's like telling us a story in a way that we can comprehend it because it did happen. You know what I mean? Like, I very much feel like those are true life just in different variations. And so, like, are you think about pirates or whatever? So they exist, but we paint them in this way. So we have a different experience with them. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And I've always consumed movies and stuff with that, like conspiracy in my head. And so everything I watch, I'm like, you're real on some form. I just haven't figured it out yet. Well, I also feel like whenever you look at a group like drug dealers or like pirates, whatever, a group that does bad things. If you go inside a group like that, there's still people. Mm-hmm. Like the bad things that they do aside, there's still people. some are funny, some are loving,

some are a little kind of like, I kind of like this person, even though they're a bad person in what they do, which is almost like Captain Jack Sparrow. Like, you know, that character is like, he's kind of funny, he's always drunk, he makes people laugh or whatever, he's weird,

but he's also a mean, bad pirate. So I kind of like that about Hollywood stories where they take like people that normally you just be like, oh my gosh, that's just bad. But you take that human element, like I think Narcos did that. really well where like you know it was all about Pablo Escobar and his like Colombian cartel bad bad bad people but inside that people you they still had personalities and you still had

characters of just like kind of likeable guy like well you're humanizing them so it's you realize that there's more to that story than just the bad that you know about because it took something for them to get there exactly and that's very much what you're experiencing through those I mean you mentioned that and when I was talking to Jessica for like that entire story at one point when She was in the caravan when they had gotten taken over. She, like, heard a voice behind her. She thought it was a woman. She was confused, looked around.

It was a really young kid. And she was a teacher. So she had this, like, insane just, like, holy crap, that's a kid that I would teach. But he's here and he's holding a gun to my head. Yeah. You know, and it was like she had that, like, humanizing moment that you speak of while also being terrified because she had no idea what was happening. You know, you say that about kids. I saw a video on TikTok recently of, like, this, like, I don't.

don't know, like these three guys. And it was like masked gunmen, you know, attack a party, go into a party and they like, you know, steal all this stuff. And they showed the video of it. And I can tell you immediately those guys, those are kids. Like 100%. Like they dress like my son. Like the way they walk. Like that is a 16 year old. Yeah. 17 year old. I know 100% that that is a kid. And like, that's crazy. Like it's just, well, one, it's sad, right? It's sad that like, kids are doing that but you think automatically like ooh mass gunmen like that's that's a man like that is a has to be right a grown man doing something bad yes but no you look at that I'm like no I'm telling you that is a 15 16 year old yeah yeah it's scary I mean you think about all the things too of just and

we associate social media and kids are doing things earlier these days you can probably attest to this as a parent right where we see kids the at least the trend is is that kids that are doing things earlier than we did them. Things are just happening in their life earlier. But I think that goes for more than just social media. I think it's all of it. I think they're just exposed to so much that once, you know, you think of each generation and it evolves each generation.

So naturally, not just adults are evolving each generation the kids are. And so they're getting exposed to more and more and more as the generations continue. Oh, and Amy's touched on this a little bit on the show. like, and I'm so with her 100%. I wish all parents were on board. Like we're all, I wish we were all part of some like board meeting. Every single parent out there.

I mean like, all right, guys. At what age do we want to introduce them to, you know, movies with sex in it? At what age do we want to introduce them to podcasts where they just say every bad word? At what age do we,

all that so we can all be on the same page because like, say I want to raise my kid to where like they're not going to watch movies with sex in it like until they're 18 years old whatever right but then they go to jimmy's house and his parents are like it's just sex like hey we all do it like you can watch a sex movie like whenever you want like you're 13 watch it now my son is like whoa like what is this he comes to my house and he starts showing his brothers like dude you watch this then we've as parents have lost all control like I've tried so hard to to just kind of, and it's not like I want to shelter my kid from, and I'm just using sex videos for like example, right? Fine, murder videos, whatever, a movie about murders. It's not that I want to shelter them from it, but I know my children and I know when they are mature enough to take, consume something like that. If you show a 12 year old or 11 year old that, it is the way they react to and the way their mind processes something like that is so different.

an 18, 19 year old. Yeah. Very cool. And this also goes, like, to touch on that point, it goes back to this is why in villages, right? This is what we evolved from was people being in villages. And in villages, everybody took care of each other. Everybody looked out for each other.

Everybody was on the same wavelength. Because they were in the small village. They didn't have to go outside of their village. They didn't know what existed. And I think you're seeing a lot of people crave that, again, to have a village, to have a community. Even if it's just a community that you're in, right? Your neighborhood.

That you're all on the same team and you're working together and you're helping each other. And some people can watch kids and, you know, you just have this balance of an ecosystem. And we're missing a lot of that. But it's funny because it's the price we pay for evolution. We wouldn't trade the advancements we've had, but we want to go back to them. It's just a weird time that we're in now. It's just discipline, right? Like, it's like, is it easier to see what your cousin is doing by just?

jumping on Facebook or jumping on Instagram. Yes, it's way easier to just be like, oh, cool, she's in Tahoe right now. Like, awesome. Like, but we're missing that whole human element of, of, like, talking to them or just communicating about anything, like, not just looking at the picture and being like, oh, that's cool. Like, they're at the beach this weekend. Instead of just like, hey, how's the beach going?

Oh, my gosh, it's terrible. Like, we just, there were so many sharks or whatever, whatever the stories are. You're not going to get that from the picture. and so we're losing that whole element and when you talk, this is getting deep. I love it, Morgan. Well, okay, wait. I want to hear this deep part,

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Okay, Eddie, take us in the deep end. I just, it reminded me of a time when, when my son had a friend over and his dad, I didn't know him that well, but he, he came over and they hung out. And apparently when they left, uh, the son, his son told him like, man, I said damn. And the way they reacted where it was like, whoa, you said a bad word. And so the dad was like, oh, dang, okay, that's, that's, that's interesting. So he called me and said, hey man, uh, just a heads up. And we, we knew each other like minimally. Like, maybe we've hung out

two or three times. And he's like, man, I feel so bad, but to us, damn isn't just, it's not really a bad word. And so my son says that all the time. And he told me that he said it at your house and that your boys were kind of reacted weirdly to it. So first, I want to apologize. If, like I brought that word into your house and they didn't. I'm like, no, dude. I mean, I say it all the time. Like, I don't think. I think they were shocked maybe that your son said it and they're his, you know,

they're the same age. And he said, okay, good. I just want to make sure we're on the same page. That is what I'm talking about with like, I, and there's so much comfort with like when they go to his house. All right. He teaches his kids the same thing. They kind of run the same ship the way we do.

And there's so much trust there where I'm like, I'm not worried about them going to their house. Yeah. But there are other parents that I don't know them, you know, or parents that have a bunch of older kids, but they have a younger kid. And like, and then our kids are younger and they're going over. I don't want that because like then they have the older siblings around. Who knows what the older siblings are talking about. Yeah.

Honestly, it probably correlates to we're so polarized right now. Everybody's on so many different spectrums. Again, you go back to the village and everybody was on the same spectrum, right? everybody was feeling and experiencing things the same. But now, because we are exposed to so much, there's so much variety of what we feel, what we think, how we raise a family, how we interact with the world. What's normal? Yeah. And so you just don't have that same thing happening anymore where there is this blind trust. Like when I was a kid and I was running all around the neighborhood, my parents didn't care. And that's because there was still a level of shared values and beliefs.

And you know your neighbor. You knew your neighbors. Yeah, you knew them. But it was also like, Everybody looked out for the kids. Yeah. That was just a common thing. Everybody looked out for the kids. Everybody, you know, parents all were on the same side with each other. They were a quick phone call away. Everybody had each other's backs.

You send a kid out in a neighborhood now, and that's not the same environment. You don't know how somebody's going to respond to a kid being on your lawn that isn't their lawn or, like, interacting with this kid that isn't normally there. That's just not what's happening anymore. Like we've strayed so far from it, which makes that difficult. for a parent to say, okay, well, I want you to be out in the world, but the world looks a lot differently than what I'm used to. And I love that you're saying that because you're not old. And anytime an older person says that, they're like, ah, you're just old, you know, it's not the way it used to be, that kind of stuff. But you're right. I even see it with, okay, so I feel like

there is a certain amount of social time that we need. Time to just, right? Just to be social with people, talk. Us, we come to work every day. We get our social time here. A lot of talking. And even more than we need. That, when we get home, we don't want to, we're kind of spent, right? Like my wife would be like, how was it working? I'd be like, it was fine. Even though it was awesome or we had a really great time or good conversations, I'm kind of just, I'm talked out. And I feel like the threshold that people have with either social media or, you know, maybe just movies or TV, what are TV shows, that's, they're getting their fill. They're getting their fill of like, and especially social media, definitely like, I got my fill of, like, conversations.

I commented on 12 posts and, like, somebody commented back, like, I know what people are pissed off at. I know what people are happy at. I saw a couple funny things. I'm good. I don't need to know my neighbors. I don't need to talk to anyone, talk to anyone at the grocery. store. Yeah. I'm just going to go and like get my stuff and get out. It's parisocial relationships. People feel like they have social relationships because of online. They got their fill already.

Yep. So they don't need to create that in real life. Yeah. Why would there be a need for it? Right. You're good. Again, it's evolution, right? It is. And it's so difficult because I don't think evolution is a bad thing. I think a lot of great things have come from it. But it's hard to watch the way that humanity evolves inside of all of it. When you like really start to break it down and, especially with just you think about everything that's happening in the world right now and there's just such a facade over all of it and you're like I don't know if you ever have this feeling but I'm like I sit there and I just try to consume what I can but then like I take a step back and I'm trying to put the pieces together understand what I'm seeing understand actually like take a microscope to it

and say what what is actually true what isn't you're talking about on your phone yeah I just everything you see right everything you consume sure And it makes me scared because it's becoming a lot harder to decide what's real and what's not. I'm not just talking to AI. No, you're right, though. It's so hard. You know, it's not just AI. Even if someone's acting.

Yeah. Are they, are, is this? Like, are these people really fighting or are they set up? Is there a real interaction? Are these people actually friends? Is that a real thing that exists? Is that a real cop pullover? Like, like, or is that fake?

Is that set up? Just to make me mad. So it makes you from all that consumption, it makes you, not trust things. Totally trust people. And then you don't want to interact with people because you don't trust people based on what you've seen online. Man, the effects are serious though. Like you're so right. And like I so firsthand can can witness it in so many ways because I've been involved for what feels like the inception of social media to our social lives, right? Like genuinely. I'm not talking MySpace in the beginning phases of all of that because that was not any, we had a computer

room in our house and everybody sat and they were on their MySpace page. So that's was vastly different than the situation we're in now. And that was cool. And that was like, you know, you had limited time that you did that. There is no limit anymore. You have access to it all the time. And if you don't access it all the time, you feel left out about what's happening in the world. Yeah.

Right? If you don't pay attention to social media for 24 hours, everybody's like, well, you didn't see what happened? Yep. You don't know that that's going on. You didn't watch this show and you don't know who that is. But see, sometimes it's kind of fun. Like, even like when I come to work here, like, I don't know half the stuff the me and Amy you're talking about. I really don't. Like, even the people they're talking about. I have no idea.

And I purposely live my life that way because I'm like, why would I want to get mad at something that like, you know, like, I'm already mad at my kids grades. Like, why am I getting mad at something? You made that comment on the show this week. And it made me giggle. And so I'm thinking like, when they talk about it, I kind of ask questions like, well, tell me more. And we're getting that human interaction, right? Like, I'm not just reading it from someone I don't know posting a video. like I'm asking Bobby and Amy who have spent numerous hours researching this. And I truly, when I ask those questions, I truly don't know like what they're talking about. So there's kind of a cool feeling of like, no, I didn't see what you're talking about.

Tell me about it. Well, and honestly, that's a good place to be in right now, especially with what's going on because it's hard though. I will say there's a delicate balance of being informed and being educated while also not being so, you know, overloaded with what's going on. You need both. You need to be educated. You need to be aware. You need to know what impacts you.

What impacts the community around you. But you also have to be able to consume that. And if you spend too much time online, you're not going to be able to. There's a very fine line. And so I think that's important. What's funny, too, is that a lot of younger people, they looked at the news as like, who watches the news, right? Like, people that watch, like, just 24-hour news,

Who does that? But that's what we're doing now. Mm-hmm. Just a different variation. Now everyone's watching the news. And everyone's a reporter. Yes. It's pretty crazy.

Well, and like, I think about when I was in journalism school, this is what's also wild to me from this perspective, watching everything unfold, is when I was in journalism school, I remember telling my professors, because I had watched Newsroom. Did you watch that TV show? I never, I never did, no. Sorstrom. Jeff is the lead. Jeff, uh. He was the guy. that was in the Will Smith movie,

or not Will Smith, Will Ferrell. Oh, Jeff Daniels. Yes, thank you. He's the news director, right? He's the news anchor. He's the one who like reports on everything. And I remember watching that show and be like, that's what I want.

That's what I want to do. And you should watch that show sometimes because it's one of my all-time favorites. I've heard it's amazing. But it's what I established news to be. It's what I wanted. It was investigative journalism. It was breaking news. It was important things.

You were impacting the world around you. And when I was in college and I was in journalism, school and my professor was like that's not real life that's not what it is like you you know there's politics and you're going to have to choose which side and you and you do this and that was even when I was in college right so 15 plus years ago and I just remember looking and I'm saying I don't I don't want that I want to tell what's real I want to tell the truth of stories he said that's just not where we are anymore and I remember thinking that was really sad and you're you're seeing it further unfold now right because that that's what it is you have to choose aside with what news you

watch. And I hate that. Like, I loved the idea that you could turn on the news and trust what the news was saying because it was unbiased. It was investigative. You had to have multiple sources. You had to have all these factual evidence. Now I go online. I'm like, people are telling stories. Like, everybody's a reporter. And I have to then go be the person who's going to do the research to find out if it's actually true or what they added in. And that's not what news used to be. I fell in love with news for the fact of how. you can impact somebody. Did you want to be a news reporter?

That's what you wanted to be. I wanted to be a news anchor. That was my goal. When you graduated, what was that still your goal? Yeah. And I applied for, gosh, I want to say like 40 different like reporter roles. And I didn't get any like responses on them. But then like as I was applying from them, they were in these really small towns.

Yeah. So I was going to say you weren't ready to move to Paducah. Yeah. Literally. And he had even, my same professor even said that was like you're going to have to start really small. And I remember thinking, like, I don't want to do that. No way.

Like, I'll, I'll figure this out, whatever. And I just was applying. And then the more, and the more I was still, like, again, that was really the inception of social media taking hold at that moment in time. And I saw what it was doing. And I got offered the role of digital director for, like, Wichita, the IHeart stations. I was like, you know what? I'm just going to test the waters here, see if there's something I can be good at or whatever.

And, you know, of course, here we are now. but it was weird because it was not my original direction at all. I didn't even do radio in any form in college. I did newspaper. I did the local news. I did like even sports reporting. Like I was all in on like the track to be an anchor. And it just didn't turn that way.

Yeah. But I'm glad it didn't. I mean, I have the same story too. I mean, I wanted to be Peter Jennings was my guy. You know, like when I was younger, like I just loved the idea of being able to interview anyone and everyone. to get the story, right? Mm-hmm. But when I graduated college,

because I'd worked, I'd worked in news before college. Did you do like internships or did you get paid jobs? No, I got paid to edit the five o'clock news. First I ran teleprompter for a few weeks, and then I got promoted to editing the five o'clock news. So like, I would edit all the videos that would go, that would play on the five o'clock news.

The packages. Not even the packages. I would, the reporters would edit the packages. I would edit like if those. Oh, you were editing the actual broadcast. No. Oh, so like if there was a car crash, they send the photographer out. Photographer would come back with a video and he'd be like, here, make a minute reel out of this.

And so I'd make the minute reel. And then this is how old I am. Then we would take those tapes because they were all edited from tape to tape. Right? So like I would select five seconds from this shot and I would record it to that tape. And then the final product would be on a tape. I would label it car crash. And then I would do like, they would probably 20.

20 tapes for every broadcast. And I would take my box of tapes and I had four, four players, like VHS players. Okay, so I'm saying tapes like as in VHS, tapes, or were they cassettes? They were like VHS tapes, but different format. I think it was like beta maybe. I don't know. Got it. Different format.

And I had four players. One, two, three, four. VTR one, VTR two, VTR three, VTR four. So when they were talking about the car crash, I would put it in VTR one, cue it up. And they'd be like, all right, VTR one's ready. We all had headsets. And this was a lot. These were live news broadcasts.

And the director would be like, all right, hit player one. I hit play. And they would take the video. And then when they were done, they'd go back to the anchor. I would eject one. And then I would put two in, cue it up. All right. The bank robbery is queued up on two.

All right. Hit two. Then I hit two. So what was funny, though, is like my first week, I thought they were done with, say, two. And so after we would play the video, I would rewind it to the, for the six people. I'd rewind it to the very beginning in that way. It was like ready for them. Yeah. And so I rewound it because I thought we were done with it. But on air, you can see like the and they're like, what don't stop? What are you doing? And they're like, oh my gosh. So after that, the whole crew called me

Fast Eddie. Because it was like, whoa, fast forward Eddie. What are you doing? Relax. Hey, it's better for being fast and too slow. Yeah, it's true. So I was always known as fast steady. But that was my first job. And then I went to college. That's kind of where I was just like, this is where I belong. I loved the crew. I loved the production crews. I loved the reporters.

I loved the anchors. I loved the news directors. I loved everything about it. The news desk. It was so cool to be in that environment that I'm like, this is what I want to do. Yeah. And so I went to college for it. And then my first job was to be a reporter.

And I did it for like, I mean, I'm three weeks. weeks and I'm like this is not for me like you didn't want to do the reporting side what I didn't like about it was what you're saying they told they were telling me what to say they were telling me what to write uh even before I got to where I was going yeah even if it was like you're going to go to this courthouse and you're going to talk to this lawyer and this judge but this is what we want from it and you don't even know like what they're going to say yep And so I didn't like that at all. And then a consultant came in.

And they're like, all right, well, you bring your shirts and ties and your suits or whatever. And I brought all myself and they're like, that's not going to work. That's not going to work. And I'm like, what is this? I'm like, I can't wear this suit. Like, why is this so important to you guys? They're like, it's television. Yep.

And that immediately was like, this is dumb. This is stupid. So I just became a cameraman. And so I did cameras, ran the live truck and I would go out and shoot everything. But I was like, I was like, you. It was journalism major. So, like, I would write all the stories. And they loved me because every time I'd come back, I'd edit my own stuff.

I'd write my own stuff. And, like, so I was kind of a reporter without being on camera. Yeah. You got to do it without all of the nonsense. Without the stupid crap, man. And I'm telling you, that was such a big part of it. I have another story for you. I'm going to tell you.

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So you talk about that side of news. I was learning a lot of that. And mind you, it was even more in detail being a woman because they were like, your hair can't be that color. Or make sure you wear it straight or not curly or vice versa. Or you look better in this color. You don't look as large in this color. It was very much about physical appearance. And understand it was TV.

It made sense. But it was just very much like everything was controlled. It was a controlled environment. And everything I thought about news was like chaos, which is why I loved it. Everything is just like, it happens breaking news. Bam, here we go. Go get the story. Yeah.

And it just wasn't. It was so much more curated than I really thought. Because there was one, I did an internship at our local news station before I graduated college. Because I wanted to see it was what I wanted. and I loved it. There was one time that I went out, there was this guy named Larry, and that's what I was about to Google.

He was an anchor? He was a long-standing anchor in Richie-Tah. Love it. And I loved it. Larry Hadaberg. And he, like, legendary broadcaster. And everybody knew him. He was that guy that you'd see him in person,

and he was famous. Yeah. You know? And I went with him to do a story, and a cameraman was with him. I was just the intern hanging out. And we went into the middle of the Flint Hills. middle of Flint Hills. It's like one of the coolest parts about Kansas is the Flint Hills.

And Flint Hills are relatively untouched. They're this beautiful scape of like rolling hills. But there was this woman, I think of as a woman, was living out in the middle of the Flint Hills. No electricity, no running water, no nothing. Still, this was like when I was in college and or like right at high school. And she was just living her best life out there. And we did this whole interview. And I just like came away. I was like, Larry, that's what this is supposed to be like. This is like. And I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm, like, and I'm just like, and I. And I had that feeling. I was like, this is it. This is what I'm going to do with my life. And then I'd...

You mean the live like the old lady or live like Larry? No, love like Larry. Okay. Where he'd go and do these cool interviews and you just learn about cool people. And so like I had that experience. But then on the other side, I went with a really well-known reporter and we went on like a court assignment. And I was tweeting from the courtroom like the live updates. We were on murder trial on one of these.

And it was really cool to me to like experience all of that. And all the news crews are there. Yes. That's kind of fun. And you're all eating lunch together. Like truly what you see online is what it looks like or what it used to look like. And the things that I just heard of how we were going to report it and what we could and couldn't talk about and how it had to be shaped. And I just, that came crashing down.

Like this experience I had with Larry was so cool. I was like, this is it. This is what I'm going to do with my life. And then I had this other experience. I'm like, never mind. I don't want to do any of this. I don't want to be attached to this. Because while it's awesome to be part of it and you get and you do it.

you do get a play a hand on some level, there's just so much control involved. And I could not imagine what that's even like now. You know what I mean? Like that was so long ago. And that wasn't even what we were seeing now. Like now we're truly diverse. Yeah.

You know, and the landscape and polarized of who's on what side or whatever. But yeah, news is wild to me to think about. It is wild. I remember too, like those consultants would also, because people always ask like, Why did like news anchors or reporters talk like this? The man walked in with a mask on his head.

He asked for a million dollars. They didn't give it to him. Like, and I remember, thank you. Improv there. Because I remember they would tell us to talk like that. Slow down, slow down. And you got to talk like this. Enunciate your words.

Make sure they understand what you're talking about. out. In your hands, vagina hands. Yeah. I do remember that. Do you remember that? Put your hands, put your index. You just unlock something in my brain that I'd definitely hit back there. Put your thumb together, your thumbs together and your index fingers together and hold it right over your belt. Like, what are you talking about? I would never stand like that. Yep. Very much so. And like, or, and I was always, I've always been a hand talker.

Yeah. So I was not good at that because they wanted you to keep them down. Vagina hands. And then they'd want you to talk like that. I'm like, this feels. very unnatural, but here's the story. So when you're with Larry, would you record, so would Larry record a little live stand-up? And would you be like, can I, can I do one? So I didn't do them with Larry, but I did do them with the reporters I was with. So I have a bunch.

And like, one of my news stories, I got an award for one of my news stories that I did in college. That's cool. For like it was Kansas Broadcasters Association Award. And it was for a live fire. I went to Fort Riley, which is the military base. And I did like things with. But I was like crawling in the grass.

Really? And they shot tanks off for us, like doing like literal live fire. And I was in a tank. And I was like doing all this reporting. And I loved that. I know. It was such a cool experience. There are definitely some cool parts to it for sure.

I think the worst part for me, though, was seeing how desensitized you would get and people would get. Because I was in it for a while. I was in it for almost 10 years. I took a break in the middle. I did like four years, did something else. And then went back to news for like three more years. that something else was work with Bobby at another TV station, by the way. But being in news, like, you know, after your fourth fatality car accident, you're kind of just like,

go into another one. House fire. Oh, people are in there. Dang. Okay. Let me shoot it. Like, yeah. What?

Well, you have to because if you show human emotion, then it's like, it's a completely different story. But even as a cameraman, I was like, who'd be the first one there? Oh, I'm the only one that has us. Get this on air. quick, quick, quick, like, what is it? It's a dead baby. Awesome.

What? Like, what are we talking about? Yeah. Like, it's just that, like, kind of would drive me nuts a little bit. And then my wife, too, I'd get home and tell her, she'd be like, you're a little too excited about that. And I'm like, ooh, that's not good. Yeah.

It's right. You'd get excited to cover stories because that was part of the nature, right? Right. You just get excited to cover a big story. And to be the only one to cover it. Mm-hmm. And be the first one to put it to tell the story before everyone else. Totally desensitized.

Yeah. It's just, I don't know. But honestly, now everybody's desensitized, so. So it's all good. So we're all. So we're all working news, if you will. Yeah. That was cool to talk about that, though, Morgan.

Like, I hadn't thought about that stuff in a while. That's fun. I know. And it's like, the reason I was even thinking about it was, like, people were talking about the, like, small decisions that changed their trajectory in life. And watching that, the TV show on Netflix called Ripple really made me think about it. Yeah. Because it's like the ripple effect of life, the interactions you have and how they impact you later on.

That's so cool. And I love to just look back on my life and see different ripples and see different moments where I could have chosen something else. And I wonder what that Morgan is doing in an alternate reality, like what her life looks like. She's crawling on that mud right there, like still trying to get that story. She might have joined the army after that story. There's one version in the reality that it is. Like I really do think about that a lot, like the different variations of me that do potentially exist in different planes. I know it's wild to think about, but if the idea that there are multiple

realities out there, which not completely far-fetched based on a lot of science, but I do think about the different versions of me that exist. And they just don't run into each other? Yeah, I mean, you're on different timelines. That is pretty crazy. You know what I mean? And they chose different things. So like, why are you living this one? I don't know. Why are you, why is this the only one you know and remember. Potentially. And maybe like once, you know, maybe once we die and how we re- re-art-you-go into that new other one that's still like there or you start a new timeline, like you go back to a certain point. I'm curious to see if that's real. Me too. You know? If my conspiracies about TV shows and movies are true than it is, truly. And we'll never know. That's the,

funniest part. It's like truly, we will never know. We're never going to have the answer. Right. You think about all the conspiracy theories in the world and all things. We're truly never going to know. never going to have the right answer or the full answer at that. And so I think about that a lot too where I'm like, do I, when I die, do I finally get all the answers? You know, like, I can't tell anybody. Who knows? So, like, is that the moment where you guys, like, give me everything? And think about all the people that have already died.

They would love to come back and tell you. Right? But they can't. Did they get all the information that we're trying to understand? Who knows? I think about that way too often. Way too much. I can tell.

Way too much. These are the spirals that I go down. Just thinking about life in a good way. Like, it's cool to think about what, like, what do you think the other versions of Eddie are out there doing? If you went on different trajectories. I don't think that there are different versions of Eddie because there are so many different versions of Eddie, like, in this life, in this timeline. Like, there were, Eddie at 10 years old was so different than me now. Eddie at 25 was so different than me now.

Okay, so see, picture this. Say Eddie at 10, Eddie at 25, and there you were with him, but then you guys broke apart and went different trajectories. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like the movie. I like the movie idea. I really do. But I just think that that's kind of what makes Eddie at 46. Yeah, it's true.

You know, like, I think that's just all those things is what made me, me. But there's still you. It's just that you have a different hat. Do you think 10-year-old Eddie went the direction he was going to go? Yeah, I think everything happens how it's supposed to happen. 25 year old Eddie's dead for sure then like he's already dead well that was his trajectory he was leading that life man he was going nowhere good and he that's why he's not you you guys are two separate things but you still carry the same things to the moment wherever you continue on yeah so it's still that

person that's still continuing on you just kind of variations of you break off i wonder if there's a version of me that is living the life i want what's the life you want you know like on an island on a beach somewhere like fishing he like just went the fishing charter playing golf every day, like, I guess he'd still have family. I don't know. I don't know. But like, I mean,

I'd still want to have my family, but I'd want to be somewhere different. I think about you going to the homeland. You say that a lot. I don't say that. Spain? Yeah. And I think if you were to have followed that track,

a variation of you had followed that track, I think you would have everything you want. I think the culture's different there. Yeah. And that's very much the culture. When I was there, they took guests all the time. Yeah.

I like that. jobs. I like that. A lot of breaks. I'm going to get a little tired guys. I'm going to do a siesta. They didn't hang out until midnight. I'm like, where are you been? Taking a nap. Yeah. That was the lifestyle. That was the culture. You could do whatever he wanted. You know, like, growing up, that was kind of the culture that we had in our house. Like, I don't remember taking naps. Like, my dad was a very hard worker. He wasn't a nap guy. But he played hard and he partied hard. He worked hard and he played hard. Like, that was kind of the style. Like, the stay up till midnight. That. That's. was normal. It's crazy to me. I think like my old self, my 10 year old, 10 year old Eddie would be like, dude, what are you doing going to bed at like 10 o'clock at night? Like that's like you're not going to do that. Man, we would not go to bed before midnight as a kid. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. But we were late everywhere. And if you woke up late, woke up late. I had tardies all the time.

Like all the freaking time. Okay. You want to go down to like a different rabbit hole too? that this reminds me of is the fact that we are now in jobs and we had to go to school and do all these things because the Industrial Revolution Talk to me So I was watching a whole

See, it all starts from a show I know it all starts from a show I was watching YouTube There was like a historian that put something together And he was talking This was like all factual He was talking about the industrial revolution

And how it ended up creating like an industrialized society Yes Because of the things that they needed At the time Yes But we never broke out of that. Yes.

So we continued still sending people to school and doing all these hours and this long form of that to then go into the workforce because that's what was created then. Yes. But we're not in an industrial revolution anymore. Well, we kind of are, though. But for several years we weren't. For several decades, we weren't after it. What did we do after that? I don't know.

He didn't get into the after part. Yeah. Well, we didn't know what happened in the middle there because, go ahead. But what I'm saying is like we, so like our whole society will do things to help. fit the problem of whatever is happening, right? And so at the time, they did the schooling, they did the education, and they did the jobs to support the industrial revolution. But then, like, yeah, we still had it, but like we created what they wanted to create.

So then after that, why didn't we go into a new variation of that? Why did we just stay on the same track that they created all those years ago in the industrial revolution? Okay. So the industrial revolution was created for, to mass produce goods. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm.

Metals. Everything kind of. Yeah. Whatever. We still do that today. Yes, but we do it so much that we don't need it. You know what I mean? Like we're over.

We do need it. Do you think you would be able to harvest your own corn? Well, I'm not. There's certain things, yes. But we're in an overconsumption society now, right? Uh-huh. Like we've over-create. We've done too much.

There's too much of everything. Yes. So there's no longer this like the, he was talking about the need. This is interesting. I'm trying to follow what you're saying. And it's been a minute since I've watched it. So I'm really just throwing this out there. What do you want to stop the way we live our life on like going to jobs?

The hamster wheel. You know, like this belief that like, okay, once you hit a certain age, you go to school and you go to school for your whole childhood. And then once you're done out of there, you go straight into the workforce. Sure. Right? Yeah. And there's no time. There's no.

life. There's no breathing room. That's not how we were supposed to stay. We were not supposed to stay in that hamster wheel. Well, the money has kind of kept us in that routine. Too. There's a lot of things that have evolved in it. But it was. And the fact that we don't know how to get our own food. True. Like, we don't know how to make our own clothes. But we also created that problem ourselves because we industrialized, right? So like. All because of money. Yeah. So all because of money because we wanted to make more money. And the only way we can make more money is that we make more shirts. Well, then you take me into a different rabbit hole because everything's about money. Everything.

Everything's about money. I think everything that we do is about money and everything that's dishonest and bad is about money. Yeah. The entire world is about money. It's all about making money. No, I know, but we need it. But do we? I mean, hopefully.

And this is where all goes to here. Elon Musk says we're not going to need it soon. So we'll see. Yeah. I'm not talking about him. I don't know what he's on. Man, what a deep conversation today. with you. This is awesome. Yeah, I need to find that YouTube video again, but it was so cool.

Why are you thinking so deeply now? I don't know. And I'm not saying that you haven't before, but I'm just wondering, like, because when we do this, we usually, I know, it probably starts with like, how are the kids? Let me tell you about the kids. But like, we've never had a conversation like this before. Yeah, I just, I like it. I don't know that it's not, I don't know that people are going to love it, right? Like, I think there's a level of that where I don't know that I want to show all the sides of craziness that I go in my brain. But there's also a part of me now where I'm just like, I don't care anymore.

What I wish, though, is like listeners, people listening to this. Like, if I were listening to this, I would be upset because like, I have an opinion on this, but I can't chime in. Yeah, I want to share. You know, like. But Eddie, that's what I loved. What I, what the other side of what I studied in college, my minors in leadership studies. We would sit in a room and have conversations with people from all different walks of life,

all different kinds of beliefs, values, traditions. and we'd sit and we'd just argue and talk about things. Oof, that sounds like my worst nightmare. But like not arguing in this instead of is bad. I know, but I just don't like to argue. But it was like to understand each other, to understand what you went through, to understand what your life looks like,

why your lifestyle is different than mine. And I loved it. I loved those conversations, to give me perspective, right? To see, to go out into the world and see things differently. And that feels like what this conversation is. And I'm just, I want to have more of that.

I feel these are conversations that are missing. We're more peaceful people. Like, I think, like, I don't want to have an argument with someone who's trying to be right. You know? You can't be in those rooms and try and be right. Because, like, and even me, I can't, yeah, I can't want to be right because then I'm not going to listen to you. I'm just going to keep thinking on what I can say to convince you that I'm right and you're wrong. No.

You know what I mean? And those are the conversations. I'm like, I just don't want to be a part of that. No, and that's never how those rooms were. You had to go in there open-minded. You really didn't thrive in that environment unless you were already open-minded. it's the belief of others, right? You were cool with being like, oh, okay, yeah, all right, I guess I had that all wrong.

It wasn't like a cool. It was just like, oh, that's a different perspective that I've never really thought of that from. Yeah, I like that. You know, just like, not that I agreed with him. And most of the time you'd still believe in the same things that you believed, but you'd have more behind it, right? You'd have, heck, you'd even understand why you really believed it. It would just challenge, like, you were raised in a certain way and you were taught this way,

but is that what you actually feel? Yeah. You know what I mean? And so people would just leave there having conversations that we're not encouraged to have anymore. Like, I love having these conversations. Yeah, they're good conversations. I don't like having them in a comment section. Like, I don't know you.

We're not going to sit here and go back and forth because it's not going to help anybody. Right, right. But with people in my life, I love to have these conversations. I'm just like, what do you think? Tell me about what your views are in the world. Yeah. So I can understand. That's fun.

I like it. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll do more of our things like this. We just keep talking about stuff. things that we think. I can go here all day. I know. The the rabbit holes that I go down, they're crazy. And I don't, listen, you could, you could, anybody can write me and be like, this is all incorrect. And you know what, probably. Yeah. Like, but that's how, those are the things that that I've learned too. That's how you learn too by being incorrect. And like, but, but you're right. You

have to listen to other people. And instead of you trying to prove to other people that you are right, understand like what other people are saying and how are you wrong or how have you been looking at that all wrong right like that's a big part of it yeah and it's having conversations back to what you said all in the beginning yes it's having conversations let's get out and talk to people it's important like the bartender you don't do yes the bartender okay we're gonna get out of this bar but Eddie thanks for joining people can find Eddie at producer Eddie you know it and listen to just all the podcasts all that stuff everything and I I'm at Webgirl Morgan.

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