The Bobby Bones Show - MORGAN: Scotty Survived Ten Gunshots in an Ambush, Then Found His Voice in Music

Episode Date: August 10, 2025

Army veteran Scotty Hasting survived being shot ten times in Afghanistan. He recalls the ambush that started it all, the recovery process, the survivor's guilt that haunts him, and the different means... of therapy he's used to heal. Learning to find his way again, Hasting discovered his voice and a talent for songwriting about the things he's been through. Now he's helping others heal and connect through his music, including one of his fellow late soldier's families. Follow Scotty: @scottyhastingmusic Follow Morgan: @webgirlmorgan Follow Take This Personally: @takethispersonallySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:41 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A while back, I met a guy named Scotty Hastine at an event here in Nashville. And I knew as soon as I was talking to him that he had a story that needed to be shared. And that's why I decided to bring him on this week. We haven't done any episodes on veterans or military or anything really in that space. And I feel like he's one of the perfect people to come on and start a conversation around that. And his story is one that will have you feel all kinds of emotions, especially to see where he's at now. So let's get into this. I'm joined this week by Scotty Hastine. Him and I met, gosh, so many months back at an event for creative vets, which was super awesome. But I'm really just excited to have you guys get to know
Starting point is 00:02:53 Scotty Moore and hear his wild story and experiences. So Scotty, thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. We are going to dive in so quick to your story, because creativist is the end of your story of what really started this journey. I want to hear at the beginning. Yeah. What got this all started? Why you're even in that group in the first place, like your background. Yeah. And what got you to where you are today? Yeah. It's insane. So I grew up in the Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky area. And I was playing baseball at the time, semi-pro baseball. I was making a little bit of money, not a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And I made the decision one day that I wanted to be a part of something that meant something, or something bigger than myself. And I decided that I was going to go and enlist in the Army. So I did. And when I got there, it was so funny. I was like, man, I just want to fight. Like, to me, a soldier is someone who goes over and fights. That's what I wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:03:47 That's what I wanted to do. And I should have played harder to get because, come to find out, there was a signing bonus. But they did, of course, the recruiter didn't tell me when I went to join because he was like, oh, this guy wants to be. Like, heck yeah. You didn't get the signing bonus because you wanted to be there? But everyone else who like got, actually got recruited, got a signing bonus except for me. I'm like, man, come on.
Starting point is 00:04:09 How many years did it take for you to find out about that? Oh, it was at basic training when I found out that everyone else was getting a signing bonus. Yes, someone had said something about it. They were like, oh, I got half the money before I left and helped out my family. And then I get the rest of the half when I graduated basic. and I was like, what? It's like that meme. We're like, wait, you guys are getting paid?
Starting point is 00:04:27 It was that. It was absolutely 100% that meme. Wow. Yeah, it was insane. You wanted to do this. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to. I just felt like I needed to be a part of something that meant something. I was living a life where, you know, I just felt like I needed to do something.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And so I, yeah, I joined the Army. I went to Fort Benning for Basic Training, which is the home of the infantry. And graduated basic training and probably three months. months after graduating basic training, I was in Afghanistan. Wow. Yeah, it was very quick, very quick. When I got to my unit, they were like, hey, you guys know we're deploying, right? I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Was that kind of a shock when it first happened? You're like, I knew I wanted this, but also that's happening a lot quicker than I expected? Oh, 100%. You go in and you're like, okay, I'm going to go to my first duty station. I'm going to be there for a little bit. I'm going to train. I'm going to hang out with all the guys, whatever. And then you get there and they're like, oh, yeah, we're deploying in like a couple months.
Starting point is 00:05:21 He was like, okay. Dang, I wasn't expecting it to be that fast. Yeah, and when you get that notice of deployment, are you aware of what situation you're going into? Yeah, a little bit. For a while there, it was that we were going to go to Iraq. And then we were going to go somewhere else. And then they finally decided Afghanistan is where we're going. And yeah. And then that was probably a month before we left. So we knew going into it, like we were going to Afghanistan. We knew, we didn't really know what part of Afghanistan yet. We didn't know that until right before we left. But yeah, we knew it was going to be Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So then you get there. And how long are you over in Afghanistan for? I was in Afghanistan for three months before I got shot. So this all happened on your first ever deployment? Okay. Wow. I'm going to hold my reaction in comments until you continue this. Yeah, no, it was insane.
Starting point is 00:06:16 We were there for three months. We were there in 2010, 20, 20, 20, 2011, the end of 2010, into beginning of 2011. And it was, that was a rough time in Afghanistan. We were in the Kandahar province, which is the southern part of Afghanistan, which is a very rough part of Afghanistan. And we were in firefights every day and losing people and it was, it was hard. But yeah, three months in, we were on patrol, April 21st, 2011. And I walked up on a guy who had a rifle behind his back and he just started spraying. He was maybe 15 feet for me and he ended up hitting me 10 times total. So, yeah, it was like up my body this way. Wow. Do you remember as this was
Starting point is 00:06:56 happening in the events that followed? Oh, yeah. Were you coming in and out? Yeah, no, I was awake the whole time. I remember. The only thing that I don't remember is falling on the ground. I remember getting shot. I remember how it felt. And then I remember waking up on the ground. I don't remember that at all. But I do remember being on the ground and trying to crawl over to my guys because they were, me getting shot was the start of an ambush. So not only did I get shot, but now they're getting shot at also. So it was a whole thing. And I was trying to crawl over to them, but I was really bad off.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So I just couldn't get to them. When everything finally stopped, because I'm assuming that's what happened, then you get transported somewhere? Yeah, I go from finally the fire stops. The guy who shot me, his gun jammed, and that's the reason why he stopped shooting me. And I guess he looked up as he was trying to fix the jam and realized that I was still alive and I pointed my rifle on him. And that's when he dropped his rifle and took off running.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And then so he took off running, but my team, my squad are still getting shot at. And then they, all that subsides. It felt like a lifetime, but it was probably only a couple minutes. And then that happens in my, in between the firefight that's happening, my medic runs to me and he starts working on me. And then from there we go back to the Kandahar airfield once the hell of helicopter gets there and picks me up. But I had lost so much blood at one point in time that I, my eyesight started shutting down. And it was just like a white film that I saw. It's crazy. I attribute that to like the, when people say I see the light. Like that's what that is. I feel
Starting point is 00:08:32 it's just like parts of your body are shutting down. And my eyesight was the first to go. But I eventually got to the Canterre Airfield and then went into the initial trauma room where the doctors were working on me trying to figure everything out. And they immediately started hooking me up to blood, started getting blood pumping back into my body. And when that happened, I started getting my eyesight back. And I remember saying, hey, I can see, like my eyesight's coming back. It's a little fuzzy, but I can see you guys. And then that's when I heard a lady lean down and say, hey, it's okay for you to go to sleep now. I fought like hell to try to stay awake the whole time. I remember like how easy it felt to just like drift away, like how easy it would have been to just just give up and push it and just drift away. And I remember
Starting point is 00:09:13 fighting that feeling from the time that they picked me up in the gurney until I was in the hospital came to her earfield. So the lady leaned down, she said, hey, it's okay for you to go to sleep, and I was out like that. Why do you feel like you were fighting so hard? What was going through your mind that you can maybe recall that was continuing to push you to fight? Yeah, it was just the fact that I just felt like I wasn't ready to give up. I just felt like I wasn't. There's still a lot of life. It's crazy. When I was laying down on the ground and I was bleeding, I was like, made, there's still so much that I want to do. I can't die here.
Starting point is 00:09:47 There's so much that I want to do still. And I just remember fighting. And the most amazing part about it is going into basic training, you find out that in all the different combat lifesaver things that you do, they tell you that going into shock is going to be, it's a killer. If you go into shock, it's the number one killer of combat injuries. If you get injured or you're missing a limb or whatever, if you go into shock more than likely you're not going to come back from that.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So I fought to just try to stay calm, try to stay as calm, cool as possible to the point of where like I was trying to just make jokes with my buddies that were part with me that were there and kudos to them because they were picking up what I was trying to do and they were just joking around with me. The medic and those guys, they saved my life. Just doing that. Just making me stay calm as much as possible. Scotty, that's incredibly impressive. Also just heartbreaking, but so impressive that you could stay calm after that just happened to you. Did you realize how many times you had been hit at that moment? I knew that I was really bad off.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I didn't know how bad. I knew that my hand and everything, my whole arm was completely numb. My leg, I remember feel, like, I remember when I got shot, I felt all of it. So whoever says that adrenaline kicks in as a liar. You're like, that's not true. I felt all of it. But now it's, I remember just the pain. And I was like, man, like this, with how much pain I'm in, I have to be really bad off.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I was missing a part of my hip where the guy said that you, whenever they, first came to me to work on my hip, you could see like the joint of my hip, like the ball joint. And because I was all of that muscle and all that tissue and everything, it was just ripped away by bullets. I'm missing part of my armpit because of where it hit me in the barricial plexus also. And it's just, yeah, it was really bad off and I knew it was bad off. And especially by the way that the medic reacted when he first came to me, I was like, oh, okay, this is a lot. This is really bad. And yet you're still here and you're staying calm and you're cracking joke. Yeah, I'm still trying to stay as calm as possible. That's the only thing that you can do in that situation. That's literally
Starting point is 00:11:46 the only thing that I could do was just try to stay calm and try to fight that feeling of just drifting off and going away. So you get to the hospital, they start doing all of this work on you. What are the events that follow after that hospital is it? The most incredible thing of this whole story is that lady that leaned down and said, it's okay for you to go to sleep, I talked to a guy who was in that room that day and there was no, there were no, there were no women in that room that day. Wow. So whoever that was, whoever came into my head and said, it's okay for you to go to sleep. It's okay for you to let go. We got you. Whoever that was, I don't know who it was, but then there was no women in that room that night. Does that feel like
Starting point is 00:12:29 eerie to you and you're trying to place maybe potentially who that was? Yeah, it's just, it's, yeah, it still gives me goosebumps. It's crazy. It's a voice I've never heard before. And it was just, yeah, it was literally like, hey, it's okay for you to go to sleep. We got you. We'll take care of you. And I'm I just passed out. It's crazy what happens with your body and with your mind when stuff like that's happening. Absolutely. Just even you sitting here talking about trying to stay really calm, but then also this happening. It's just crazy the things and the events that surround a really traumatic experience like that.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Absolutely. It's insane, man. I remember, so that happened. We got all that done. I went to sleep and I woke up like a day later. And I was still in Kandahar and we were. getting ready to move. They asked me where I wanted to go, if I wanted to go to Walter Reed, or if I wanted to go to BAMC, which is in San Antonio. I'd never heard of Bamsie,
Starting point is 00:13:21 and they talked about Bamsie being mainly for burn people. Okay. And I was like, well, I'm not burnt, and I've never heard of Bamsie, but I've heard of Walter Reed. I'll go there. Why not? That's cool. And so went there, but we made, so they'd take you from Candaard into Lonstol, Germany. But between those two, they lost pulse in my arm and they thought they were going to have to take my arm. And they had to make an emergency stop in Bogram. And they ended up taking a vein out of my right leg and replacing the artery in my arm, which is crazy. Wow. And you can even do that. Because I don't know what health class they went to, but the one that I went to said that arteries and veins are completely different. But apparently, a vein will grow into an artery, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:06 or at least grow into what it needs to be. It's insane. It sounds like you were in the right place with the right person. 100% to do what needed to be done. Absolutely. Because like I said, they lost pulse of my arm and they thought they were going to have to take the arm. They just thought, hey, like the arm's dying. We just have to get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But luckily there was a doctor that I said, nope, I got something I can do. And that, thank God, I still have it. Yeah. Do you have full feeling and stuff? I have no feeling from basically my elbow down. I have this much movement in this hand. These three fingers just sit there. But yeah, it's something I've lived with for a while now.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And we get into in a little bit, you play an instrument. Does that change anything for you? Yeah, yeah. I was lucky enough that when I started learning guitar, I didn't know how to play guitar until like before this. Because I feel like if I knew how to play guitar before this, I would have been like, this is stupid, I'm done. I'm not going to do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I would have gotten upset and I would have gotten frustrated and just quit. Because it does change a lot. There's a lot of learning curves that happen with having nerve damage in your hand trying to learn how to play the guitar. Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah, yeah. And it was, so they patched me up. They got my arm still fine in Boggroom, and then I got to Lawn Still Germany. And then when I got to Lawn, actually when I got the Boggham is when I actually finally got to call my family.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So for the longest time, they were told Scotty got hit. He got shot a bunch of times. He's in intensive care. We don't really know what's going to happen or what's happening. Like it's touch and go. We don't know. And what is that time frame? That's two days where my family's like just trying to figure out if I'm even alive.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Oh my gosh. And then, yeah, and then I get to Boggham and they do that procedure. And that's when I call my mom and I'm like, hey, I'm good. I'm still here. I'm alive for now at least. And then that's when she heard my voice. I called my wife at the time. And it was, it was crazy for the longest time.
Starting point is 00:15:57 They didn't even know if I was still alive. Well, and just like when you were having that experience where you're like this felt like years. For them, I'm sure it was that thing where it was like every minute just clicked as they were just waiting for that phone call. Absolutely, 100%. I couldn't imagine now that I have kids, I couldn't imagine being on that end and just wondering if my child's alive. Like I couldn't even imagine the feeling. Have you ever talked to your mom about that moment and time? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 We've done different documentaries and stuff like that. We did a VA documentary that she talks about it and stuff and we've had conversations about it. It's rough. It's really rough to hear her talk about it. it and to hear my brother and my dad talk about it. It's, yeah, it's a completely different experience than what I experienced. Well, and it's not ever something I don't feel like anybody who chooses to join the army by choice, right? Like, you choose, you're like, this is what I want to do. I don't think you're thinking in that moment, well, my family is going to have to
Starting point is 00:16:55 potentially get a phone call someday. That's not what you're considering. Yeah, I think when you volunteer, especially volunteering into the infantry, like you have an idea that something could happen, but you don't ever want to think about it. I want to think that could happen. And it does. And you're like, what do I do now? And yeah, and that's, I think more so for the family, it's harder because this wasn't a decision they made. This was a decision that I made. And yeah, now they're just having to deal with the consequences of it. And yeah, it's just, it was rough. I could imagine, but on all of you guys, but particularly you're the one who's going through this entire experience. So you're in Germany, you make that phone call. When do you finally make it back to the States? Yeah, so I was in Launstool for
Starting point is 00:17:38 about another day. I think it was about another day. They were basically just trying to make sure that I could make the trip from Germany to the United States, which before we go any further, whoever picks the nurses that go to Launstall, Germany, deserves a medal because they're beautiful. So, who ever did that shout out to you. whoever it was. Are they nurses within like the U.S. Army or are they? Yeah, a little bit of both. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So in Lonsdale, you have, you have the German nurses and then you have nurses that are also still part of the United States Army. And then you have nurses who are from the U.S. that they just get paid to go overseas and be nurses in hospitals like that. Yeah, well, shout out if you're in Lons Stoll. 100%. There's something about you apparently. Absolutely.
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Starting point is 00:20:33 A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:20:50 He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your call. podcast. But yeah, so I went from there, I went to, from Launstool, I finally got to Walter Reed. And that was, really, that was where, like, the fight really started was to, that that's why I had to learn how to re-walk again. I had to learn how to, I had to learn how to do everything left-handed instead
Starting point is 00:21:24 of right-handed. And that was when I had to do the PT, the occupational therapy, the different therapies. And, yeah, and then that was when the first time that my family got to see me also. And the hardest part for them was I was hooked up to wound vacks, which are like the things that help keep your wounds clean. And I was hooked up to four, four different ones. My mom said that when she first walked in, she thought that those machines were keeping me alive. And she said that it was scared the crap out of her. Well, yeah, and she's seen four different machines. And then she's seen you hooked up to all kinds of other stuff. And she's, is this permanent? What's happening to my son? Yeah, yeah. She didn't really know. She didn't know what those were. You don't know what a wound vac is until you
Starting point is 00:22:05 get in that situation. And they're like, oh, that's what okay. But yeah, she said when she first walked in, like her, my dad and my brother were all like, is he even, is he going to live through this? What? They didn't know, but I was fine. I was alive. I was good.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Well, and you gave the phone call and they're probably like, okay, he's alive. That's good. We're good. They're probably not anticipating what that meant. No, not at all. They were definitely not anticipating what they saw when they walked into that. And yeah, but, you know, they were, they were troopers, man. They stayed strong and it was.
Starting point is 00:22:34 How long were you there for? I was impatient for a month, and then I was outpatient at Walter Reed, but still living on the campus for six months. Wow. But impatient, that was every other day. I was going under anesthesia, and they were cleaning my wounds every other day for a month. You had to go under anesthesia every other day? Every other day. Just to clean the wounds that you had.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, because it would have been far too painful to not do it. So after that month of having that same experience over and over, where you just, Yeah, it was just a blur. It really was. You just get into, okay, well, this is what my life is. There's like different stages, I feel like. You get there and you're like, for me, I still, I was like, okay, I'm going to be fine. I'm going to get nurse back to health and I'm going to go back over.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I'm going to be with my guys. I'm going to go back over. That's the plan. And then at Walter Reed, that was slowly started deteriorating. Okay, I'm not going to be able to go back over because this is worse than I thought. And then it goes to accepting that, okay, well, this is. my life now. And then it's, you get a little pissed off sometimes. And you're like, well, why I don't want to do this anymore? I don't want to go back to sleep tomorrow. It's what you need to do. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's a hard life to live in a hospital bed. Well, and that's so much of why I wanted to bring you on, Scotty, because those experiences that you have are unfortunately not uncommon. Your situation and then what happened to you is very solo and it's all yours. Thank God, because I don't recommend it. I hope not. But there's so many men and women like you who choose to serve, and they come out of serving with horribly traumatic situations that happen to them. And the things that happen to you guys after is really what gets lost, right? Here's your story.
Starting point is 00:24:25 This is what happened to you. This is what everybody always wants to know. Yeah. But who's Scotty after that? And what happens to Scotty after that moment in time where everybody's paying attention. The support is all there. Everybody's doing all the things.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And you go through the six months. But then after. Yeah. There was a moment when I was at Walter Reed where I just, I had to redefine what in my life was going to look like and what I was going to look like. There was a time when I was married at the time and we were at one point in time, she had gotten pregnant and we were expecting a baby. And I'm like, what does, like, how do I change a diaper?
Starting point is 00:25:00 How do I, what, how do I live my life? Like, how do I take care of another person? person when I can barely even take care of myself. But there were a lot of moments like that where you just had to make the decision that you were just going to figure it out. And for a long time at Walter Reed, for probably three months while I was there, I was in that rut of just feeling sorry for myself for so long. And then something happened. There was a moment when I was at Walter Reed that kind of changed everything. And we were at an event at Walter Reed. And there was a, and at these different events, like they always held these events to build camaraderie between all the broke veterans.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You say it like that or that even sounds bad. But, and it was great. It was great to have that. It was great to have a community. That was one of the most amazing things about Walter Reed is that there is a community of people there. And everyone is suffering. Some of us were worse than others. But at the end of the day, we all went through something horrific.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And we're all there. And we're all kind of bonding in this trauma. And it was amazing. But there was a moment when we were at this event, and I overheard a song that they were playing in the background. I always played music in the background. And there was a song that came on, and it was a song that was cut by Trace Ackins, it was called Till the Last Shus Fire.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And Trace Akin originally cut it. It was the first time I'd ever heard this song, and I heard it out of the corner of my, just in the background. And then it was like, I locked into it. I don't know what happened, but something just drew me into the song. And after the song was over,
Starting point is 00:26:22 like I cried for a baby for two hours, and I couldn't stop myself. And in those two hours, I was when I made the decision that I was going to live my life to the fullest, and I wasn't going to let my injury dictate my life, and I was going to live for my baby, best friends who would never have the opportunity. And yeah, that song came back around full circle
Starting point is 00:26:39 a little bit later that we can talk about in a little bit. Yeah, I definitely want to talk about that for sure. But wow, talk about a defining moment when you're really struggling. And do you feel like that was the first time as you hear the song and you talk about crying for two hours after? Was that really the first time where everything just kind of all the emotions and everything you'd been experienced for the last several months just came to a head? 100%. That was those two hours of crying was 100% understanding that life, life is different now. And while I'm here at Walter Reed, I'm also hearing about my best friends being killed. And it's, there was just so much at Walter Reed.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I guess in that moment, it was like everything finally slowed down. And I was able to like, all the emotions, everything just came rushing in. And I was able to really think about what just happened and what life looks like moving forward. And it was just an overwhelming sense of emotion that just couldn't help it. What would you hope for someone like me who's never had that experience or maybe somebody who's never heard of a story like yours? What's something that you hope they can come away with understanding for someone in an experience like yours
Starting point is 00:27:49 or even somebody who chooses to fight in the army, any of the above? Yeah. But just maybe something that helps them understand, and maybe have more empathy, understanding of situations and things that you go through? Yeah. It's so hard to be empathetic with someone if you've never experienced what they experience. You know what I mean? That's something that I feel like the world is understanding now. But at the same time, loss is loss. I lost some of my best friends and that still sticks to me. And the survivor's guilt behind that still is something I still try to deal with.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And at the end of the day, trauma is trauma. Trauma is relative, but anyone who experiences a different ways. And I think that it's important for everyone to understand that just be like, there's a lot of people that are like, man, I got hurt, but it wasn't anything like you. Like it doesn't matter. Like trauma is trauma. Like it doesn't matter that you weren't hurt as bad as me. You experienced something. It was relative to your life. It changed your life.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like it doesn't matter if it was like if it was as bad as me or not. At the end of the day, we're all in this. And at the end of the day, like it hurts regardless. And at the end of the day, you have to find it. new way to live life. You mentioned that Survivor's guilt. I know a lot of you guys struggle with that because you're really experiencing a very sharp contrast between life and death. Does the Survivor's guilt happen obviously in the moment when you find out, but throughout the rest of your life? Yeah. It's still something I struggle with on a daily basis. It's actually pretty amazing. I was able to
Starting point is 00:29:20 create a vass. I was able to link up with them and write a song about my Survivor's guilt. And when I signed my record deal with Black River Entertainment. It was the first single that I ever put out called How Do You Choose? Because with my music and with all that, I've only ever wanted, I want to help people that are struggling. I want to use either my story or my music or something and try to help someone who's struggling and understand that there's so much more, you know, that you can go through all of this bad and you can come out on the other side and do things that you never thought possible. And with that, though, I had to put out songs that were very much. me opening my chest and letting people see my heart and my soul. And that song is still the
Starting point is 00:30:00 hardest song I've ever written and it's the hardest song that I ever perform. And it's truly a song about my Survivor's Guild and my best friends who never came home. And why did I get to after getting shot 10 times? And there they did. Do you still keep in contact with any of those families? Oh, 100%. My best friend, Adam Hamilton, his mom, is one of my dearest friends. I love her so much. It's actually amazing. I made my Grand Alapper debut not too long ago. And at the at that debut, I played a song from Forrest Gump, which was fortunate son. It was amazing. It was so much fun. And then I played that song, How Do You Choose? And that song is about my best friend, Adam Hamilton, who was killed. And Adam Hamilton's family was in the crowd that night. And it was one of the most incredible experience I've ever felt. And it was cool because after you make your debut, like, you go into the circle room and you get this little party, this little debut party. And all of Adam's family was there. And it was so cool to like just experience this moment with them. And it was cool. And it was. And it was. was even more amazing because I had never met some of them. So it was cool to be like, hey, man, it's so great to meet you. Like, how do you choose? Makes me feel connected to Adam again. And like,
Starting point is 00:31:03 just to like understand that like this thing that I put out that was so personal to me, like that it touches them and makes them feel something. That's amazing. You're making me feel, I'm like getting ulterior. I just even hearing the story of this and how you use such difficult moments in your life to connect with others, which is what this podcast is all about, was trying to help people feel less alone and their struggles. And veterans and people who are in our military are such a huge part of the population. And you were the perfect first guess for this to share your story. And I just, like Scotty, it's so incredible watching what you've done because I hear everybody's heard your story.
Starting point is 00:31:47 This is what happened. And you take this moment in time. And then you're doing what you do now, which is my hearing. music, being an artist, you're working with creative v. Give that kind of background, too, because that's now the big part of your story. Yeah, yeah. This is the, honestly, the music part of it was the most unexpected of all of it. I'm going to be real. So after all my injury and everything, I went back to Fort Riley and in Kansas because my guys were coming back. That's where I'm from Kansas. Yes, I did. Absolutely. I went to Manhattan, Kansas for college. So Fort Riley.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Hey, state. Heck, I even did new segments at Fort Riley. I was crawling in the barbed wire. That's awesome. So cool. But yeah, so I went back to Fort Riley because my guys were coming back. I had to be there, which is crazy because a lot of times, like, people who go to Walter Reed, like, that's where their story ends. They go to Walter Reed. They get out of the military. They medically retired to the military. So for me to be like, hey, I want to go back to Fort Riley and be there when my guys get there. No one at Walter Reed knew how to make that happen because it never happened before. No one has ever done that. It basically took an act of Congress. Luckily, my congressman was an ex-ranger. And he said, yeah, you need to be there. And so he wrote up a letter and stuff and made it work. But I went back to the room. That's just awesome. That happened, but also crazy that to your point that it took an act of Congress for that to happen. My congressman had to write a letter just for me to be able to go back to my duty station and see my guys.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But yeah, so I was there. I went back to Fort Riley. And they all came back and we were there for a while. But while I was there, I was lucky enough to find adaptive sports. I played sports my whole life growing up. Sports was our world. That's what we did. So when I got to Fort Riley, they were like adaptive sports.
Starting point is 00:33:24 is what we're really pushing right now. We feel like it's really going to help. It's going to help you get an escape, whatever. And I was like, yeah, sure, let's try it. I'll try everything you got on this list. And I did. And the one that really stuck with me was archery. So to the point of where it's crazy because I'm right-handed. So I went to my first archery clinic ever to learn how to shoot archery. And the guy was like, all right, are you left-handed, right-hand? And I'm like, I'm right-handed, but this hand, I have no feeling and it doesn't really work. He said, oh, that's all right. Well, strap a, we'll strap a release to this hand. You'll be fine. And then I found out three arrows later into the ceiling that I'm not having feeling in the hand that has the trigger on
Starting point is 00:34:00 it is a bad thing. Scotty, I've even done artery and I do have a whole feeling and it's even a disaster. It was to the point where the guy was like, listen, you're a liability. Stop. Stop shooting archery. You're like, I did tell you. I was like, man, we had this conversation. I don't know what you want.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But I'm way too hardheaded for him to tell me I can't do it. So I was like, man, there's got to be a way to do it. And I remember him saying the hand that's holding the bow just sits there. That's all it does. And I was like, well, this hand, that's all it does anyhow. What if I just switched to left-handed? So I went back the next day. And as soon as I walked up, he immediately was like, no.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Like, why are you here? I told you're a liability. You have to go. Like, you can't do it. And I was like, no, just hear me out. Just hear me out, man. What if I try this left-handed? And so we did.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And I found an amazing escape and an amazing purpose and archery to the point of where I eventually got recruited by the U.S. Paralympic committee. And I started shooting and representing the United States and the Paralympic program all throughout the United States. States. And I did that for... Hold on. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Scotty. You're just like low-key like, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, it was... That's incredible. It was amazing. And it was, I did that for six years. I shot professionally. I got paid by the VA and by others to shoot. And that's what I did. That was my job. And it was amazing because for the seven seconds before that error releases, the PTSD, the depression, the anxiety, all that disappeared. And I was able to focus on just one thing. And I lived for those seven seconds. For six years, I lived. for those seven seconds. And then COVID happened. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:35:28 A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations,
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Starting point is 00:36:29 This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects.
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Starting point is 00:37:10 There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?
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Starting point is 00:38:04 When COVID happened, the world shut down, which means that my therapy, my escape, got taken away from me. And when it gets quiet is when the demon's not the loudest, and COVID was very quiet. And I needed something. I was struggling. I was really going into a place that I had been before and I didn't want to be anymore. And I had a guitar in the corner of my room. And one day I was like, you know what, I'm just, I'm going to learn how to play this thing. I'm just going to jump on YouTube and I'm going to figure out how to play this.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So I did. I jumped on YouTube and I deep dove in to learn how to play the guitar. And yeah, there's a lot that goes into having to learn with a disability how to play the guitar. And again, thank God I didn't know how to play before because I would have gotten just pissed off and be like, I'm done. I'm not doing this. Yeah. But, you know, it was, and for me, like, I figured that learning how to play the guitar was going to be hard enough to where it's something that I'm truly going to have to focus on time into. I'm really going to have to escape into this and figure out how to do this.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And it was. It gave me a new escape. It let me escape from the PTSD and the depression and the anxiety that I was feeling at that time. And the best way for me to learn was I started learning how to play songs I grew up listening to. I am a 90s country kid through and through 90s country is the best time for country music in my opinion. And you're not wrong. It's not a controversial one. So you are safe here. What's the first song you were like, I have to learn this song? Oh, the first song I ever learned how to play with you should have been cowboy by Tobyki. Oh, yeah. Fantastic song. Yeah, I love that song. I started learning how to play songs that I grew up listening to because I knew if it didn't sound right, I had to fix something. And there's plenty of YouTube videos out there to
Starting point is 00:39:42 teach you how to play it. I started learning songs that I grew up listening to. And then from there, I was like, okay, like, I'm learning how to play the guitar. This is really cool. But I still have all these feelings and I still have all these thoughts and I still have all these emotions that are just overwhelming. And I need some, I need to find a way to, to stop this cup from overflowing. I need to figure out a way to pour some out of this cup a little bit. And that's when I discovered songwriting. I don't know what I thought.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I thought songs just came out of nowhere. It was just like God just gave them to people. I don't know. It's not like a stork in the babies. You know, they just drop it on your front porch. I don't know why I never thought that songwriting was a thing. It was just like people had these songs. And here you go.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't know. I don't know what I thought. But then I discovered songwriting. And I was like, I want to learn how to do this. Like, I can just take these emotions and these feelings and I can throw them somewhere. So I jumped on YouTube and I started learning how songs are structured and how you go from a verse to a chorus to a bridge and then how all this comes together and becomes one piece of work. And I found a new escape in learning how to write.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And I found a new escape and getting these emotions and these feelings that I was truly struggling with and putting them somewhere else. I was able to take them out of myself and throw them into something else, which was a lifesaver, truly a lifesaver for me. You created your own therapy. Yeah. With what you were teaching yourself. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Because songwriting is a form of journaling. Oh, 100%. You're expressing how you're feeling. It's just almost giving it a prettier look. Yeah. Well, I don't know pretty. I mean, they were not songs. They were not good.
Starting point is 00:41:16 They were thoughts and feelings. They were not good. It was really just like word vomit put onto a piece of paper that I could then like put somewhere else. And I needed that. And it was exactly what I needed. when I needed it. And it was amazing. And then from there, I just really deep dove into music in general in all the types of music. And then from there, the world started opening up a little bit. And I went
Starting point is 00:41:39 to an open mic night in Cookville, Tennessee at Red Silo Brewing Company. And I don't know why I did it. I just decided to screw it. I'm going to go. Why not? And I know songs now. So why not go sing one? Why not? Let's give it a shot. I went up there. I put my name on the list. There was like four people there because it's still COVID time. And everyone thinks that everyone. one's going to die when you meet each other. And I was like, well, four people here, what do I have to lose? What are them? They get, four people are going to make fun of me? It's probably better that way. This is easy. I can do this. Four people are going to make fun of me? Cool. I don't care. I don't live here in Cookville. I'll be fine. But yeah, so I went up there and I played the first song I ever learned
Starting point is 00:42:12 how to play. Should have been a cowboy by Toby Keith. In that moment, that escape that I had found that, that sense of purpose that I had found, that therapy that I had found in everything else before was there, but it was magnified a hundred times. And in that moment, that's when the, you stage became a sanctuary for me. And then I was hooked. In archery for seven seconds, nothing else in the world matters except for being in that moment. When I'm playing a song, or I'm playing a show for three minutes, now nothing in the world matters except for being in that moment. To the point of now where when I play a show and I'm playing an hour-long show, nothing in the world matters except for me being in that moment for an hour. I lived for that
Starting point is 00:42:51 to the point of where I would go to all different open mic nights all around Nashville. And then Nashville started opening up a little bit, and I had heard through some of the other guys at the open mic nights that down on Broadway, you can play three to four hours at a time. I was like, whoa, wait, tell me for three to four hours a day, I can be rid of the PTSD and the depression and anxiety. I can live in a moment for three to four hours a day. I want to do that. So I walked up and down Broadway for a month, bugging the crap out of people until they lit me on a stage. And to the point of, I was playing six shows a week. I would play a show every night, three to four hours of time. My vocal cords hated me, but the therapy that I got from it was more than I could have
Starting point is 00:43:31 ever imagined. I was able to live in a moment for three to four hours. And for someone who suffers from PTSD, depression, and anxiety, being able to find a moment where you can live in that moment is magic. Do you feel like those experiences, every single night as you were having them, allowed you then to heal during the other 23 hours of the day that you weren't doing that? Yeah, 100%. 100. Because I knew that no matter what I was struggling with, I was going to have that outlet. No matter what was happening, no matter all the hard that I was dealing with throughout the day, I knew that there was going to be an escape. And I knew that for three to four hours, I was going to be able to get rid of this and I was going to be able to get away from it. And it kept me moving, right? It kept me
Starting point is 00:44:13 understanding that there's going to be something that's going to help me get over whatever I'm dealing with it this time. And yeah, so I live for that. Live for the three to four hours at a time. And I always say, you know, that when I'm on stage, like you're watching therapy. happen in person. Like, you're truly actively watching it because that's what it is for me. And it's so crazy. I don't know how it all happened, how all where I am now and all that. And it's, it's just insane. I'm more blessed than I could have ever imagined I would be. But for there's three to four hours and it didn't matter. It didn't matter who was in the room. It didn't matter anything else. All that mattered was that I was on that stage and that I was playing
Starting point is 00:44:48 that music. And I was being able to live in a moment. It didn't matter if there was 300 people in a full bar down on Broadway or if I was just playing for the bartenders, I was just there for myself, for my therapy. But at the same time, like, I'm so glad that I went to Broadway and I'm so glad that I played down on Broadway because it taught me so much about being an artist and about being a performer and about being able to connect with people. Because Broadway will humble you. One day, you're playing for a packed room and everyone's having a great time. And the next day, you're playing for the bartenders and hoping someone walks in the door. It'll humble you. It'll humble you real quick, but at the end of the day, you really have to love it. And it made me find a love,
Starting point is 00:45:28 a true love for music and a true love for performing. Scotty, just listening to you over just the course of all of your stories, I think a lot of it is also a testament to your character and who you are as a person, which you've probably never given yourself the credit for, but you couldn't do and have survived a lot of the things that you've gone through without being who you are. And you're an incredible person, and you did that. Like, you created this. I know you're like, I have no idea how I am where I am right now, but like you did this and you created all of that. Just hearing you talk about it. And I know like I can sit here and see your bigger picture. You're in it. So it's harder to see when you're in it. But you did all that. That was all you.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah. I think it was just the necessity of it all. I needed something. I've lost way too many buddies here in the States. And I wasn't going to be another one of them. And I needed something. I have kids. I have things I have to live for. and I needed the necessity of needing to find something outweighed anything. It outweighed all the embarrassment that I could possibly feel going to that open mic night. It outweighed any of it. And now I'm at a point in this career that has become a dream in a career that I could only ever imagine it would be. Yeah. And it's incredible, which is what I want you to share, the three kind of stories,
Starting point is 00:46:47 because you are now part of creativists, which is an awesome organization that, employees veterans to write songs and do a lot within the music industry. But you have three really cool stories. How I met you was that you were, if I remember correctly, there's a George Strait song connection type thing or were you just there that night? I was just there that. Okay, you were just hanging out for creative events. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Okay, then there's two stories that I know for sure. But you were there. George Strait did an entire album with a lot of the creative events, which was really cool. We were there for the art exhibit and the whole piece of that. but Deli Parton story and Trace Adkin story. Oh man. You know, I'll tell another story. That's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It's a very Nashville story. Okay. The way that I got discovered. Everyone always asked this. One day my mom was like, hey, I'm going to go buy a new car. I want you to come with me. I don't know anything about cars. I know nothing about cars.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Listen, when you're a woman, you need a male accomplice for things because otherwise you can take an advantage of. So I know how your mom asked. You know what's great. I was like, man, I don't know anything about cars, but I do know mom's probably going to by lunch. So I'll go because I will never say no to free food. And so I went and we were at this dealership and her salesman was Michael Kerr, who is the son of the president and CEO of Black River Entertainment, Gordon Kerr. And we were talking about music and how I used music as a form of
Starting point is 00:48:10 therapy and he grew up in music and how I used it as a form of therapy and how I want to help people with my music and with my story. And we just, we talked from it out. My mom was supposed to be buying a car and we're talking about music. And we're talking about music. music and all of stuff. She ended up buying the car. But yeah, we talked about music. And at the time, I had one song out just because I wanted to get a taste of what being in the studio was like. So he was like, man, the song's okay, but your story is amazing. I'm going to send this to my dad, and I'm going to send it to Doug Johnson, or the NR guy at Black River. I feel like they need to meet you. And I was like, yeah, man, like, that would be incredible. That's amazing. Please.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Like, holy crap. He's like, no promises. And I'm like, yeah, of course. But Nashville's full of people who talk and then nothing ever happens. And I'm like, okay, I'm not going to get my hopes up. But three hours later, I got a call from Doug Johnson. Hey, man, we need to meet. And I was like, okay. And then, yeah, it's crazy. This is all because you went for free food. I went for free food with my mom. If your mom ever asked you to go somewhere, go because you never know what could happen. Yeah. And then, yeah, so I went into Black River and I met Doug in literally like 10 minutes into me telling my story. He was like, stop talking. Hold on. We need to go to Gordon's office. And you need to tell this story.
Starting point is 00:49:18 with Gordon there. And I was like, okay, yeah, I don't know who Gordon is, but absolutely, let's do it. And so I went in, told my story, talked about what I want to do with music and how I use music. And they were, yeah, are you going to, do you live here in Nashville?
Starting point is 00:49:30 I was like, yeah, and they're like, can you come back, come back around? And I was like, yeah, absolutely. From then on out, I just started coming over and I just started hanging out with Doug. And Doug is not only did Doug Johnson write three wooden crosses, but he's the guy who developed Blake Shelton to Blake Shelton. And I didn't know any of this when I first met him.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And it's so funny, looking back now, he took the time to talk to me and write with me and develop me into who I am now. And it's so funny, for the longest time at Black River, I was just Doug's guy. No one knew who I was. No one had a name to put with my face. I was just Doug's guy. And yeah, and then a little bit later, I ended up signing a record deal with him and a publishing deal with him. And now I'm a recording artist, which is insane. That's an incredibly awesome Nashville story.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah. I love a Nashville story. I know. It's even crazy because stuff like that never really happens anymore. It's just, man, that's crazy. But yeah, so the Trace Ackin story is wild. I told you that I heard this song and it changed everything for me. Fast forward 10 years and I'm sitting in Doug Johnson's office talking about signing a record deal and he's working with me to become an artist and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And he's, hey, man, there was a song I wrote a while ago and me and Rob Crosby wrote it. And I don't know if you've heard it. it's a song called Till the Last Shot's fired. Trace Atkins originally cut it. I don't know if you've heard it. And I was like, I was like, yeah, I know the song. I'm trying to stay. You're trying to stay cool and calm.
Starting point is 00:50:55 He's like, cool, you've heard it. Awesome. I'm glad you've heard it. Do you want to do a version of it? And I was like, yeah, man, I would love to do a version of it. How long did you keep your chill for? Not very long. But you know, I'm like, I would love to do. I'm trying to stay calm and cool, but inside I'm jumping up and down.
Starting point is 00:51:10 A little kidage on Christmas morning. Oh my God, you have no idea. But then. Yeah, I was like, man, yeah. And then I think after we finally finished, I finally told Doug that song that song actually meant to me. But we did a version of it, and it was amazing. And every feeling that I first felt when I heard that song, I put it into that song. And it was perfect.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I thought, I was like, this is, this song is incredible. And Doug was like, man, this is really great. I love this version, your version. It's just you. It's amazing. But what do you think about, reach out to some other artists and see what happens. I'm like, send it to everybody. Like, yeah, man, who knows.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And the first person who said yes was Lee Bryce. And a testament to who Lee is, he has become an incredibly dear friend of mine now. But he basically sat down with us and he was like, man, I don't care what part I play in this song. I just want to be a part of what this is. Whatever you're doing here, I want to be a part of this. So then we had me and Lee's version. And it was amazing and it was perfect. I thought it was perfect.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Fast forward a couple weeks. And Doug's, I'm driving home from somewhere. And Doug calls me, he's like, hey man, Dolly Parton wants to be a part of this song. What do you think? And I'm like, why are you calling me? Let her do whatever she wants to do. do. Are you serious? It's Dolly Parton. Like, what? And so he's like, that's what I thought you'd say. Okay. And I'm like, I don't feel like you needed to call me about that. I feel like you could
Starting point is 00:52:23 have just been like, Dolly's going to be on your song. And then literally four weeks later, I got a call from Doug again. He's, like, I have Dolly's version. You want to hear it. I'm like, again, I feel like we're making phone calls we don't need to make. Yeah, can you just send the song? Why are you doing this to me, man? Just send it. And so he sent it to me. And it, man, like the feelings that I felt when I first heard that song just came rushing back. And it was, and I had to pull over on the side of the road. And I was just, I just cried, man. And it was like, and it wasn't just the fact that, like, this song is what it is and that
Starting point is 00:52:53 it means as much as it means to me. But they decided that they wanted, the fact that they wanted to be a part of my song, but not only just a part of my song, but a part of my journey and a part of my story. And that means more than they will ever know. And I don't think I can ever tell them thank you enough for, not. Not only, like I said, not only being a part of the song, but just like some guy who just started music doesn't know anything about music and they wanted to be a part of a song that I was doing.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Like, that means so much. Okay again, Scott, but back to the testament of you as a human being, I think anybody meets you and wants to be in your circle. I think they hear your story. I think they hear who you are as a person and are like, yes. When people are just energizers and they have this, gosh, aura about this. people truly gravitate towards that. And bad people, sure.
Starting point is 00:53:45 But like good people too, like a Libreis and the Dolly Parton. If Dolly Parton wanting to be on it doesn't tell you what an energizer you are. Man, that's insane. The craziest part is I have a song with her still haven't met her yet. So that's on the bucket list. That has to happen. And did you ever meet Trace knowing that the song is part of that? I met Trace way before music was ever a thing.
Starting point is 00:54:09 was one of the first opera shows I ever went to. I just, I went to a military opera show one day, and there was like an outing that they were doing for veterans. And I'd always wanted to go to an opera show, and I never got the chance. And I went, and I got to meet Trace, which was crazy. And I was like, man, like, your song till last shot's fired and changed everything for me.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And then fast forward a little bit. And I remember Doug called Trace and we were talking to him. Because originally I was like, man, I would love to do this with Trace. Like, that would be so cool. Can I, you think we can do that? And that was like, And originally when he was like, let's send it to other artists and see. And I was like, Trace, Trace, maybe.
Starting point is 00:54:43 That would be great. Can we do that? Like I know he already has this song. Can we do it with him? And you know, what's amazing is we were on the phone with Trace and he said, man, he said, I already have my virgin. He said, let Scotty make his own. And I was like, okay, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:54:58 You're cool. You're, oh, yeah. But that's also the recognition that, like, he heard your song. Yeah. It was just like, it's let Scotty do, let Scottie do this. Let's Scotty have his. And it wasn't like, it was just amazing. Just the understanding that he's, man, if I do another version of this,
Starting point is 00:55:13 it's going to be another trace song. With Scottie have his moment. And it was so cool. It was so cool to just hear that. And for a part of me was, oh, dang, man, like, Trace would have been cool. But, you know, a part of me understood and was like grateful that he was like, Scottie needs to have his version.
Starting point is 00:55:28 It was just really cool. Well, I'm going to manifest for you that you guys get to have your own collab and it's just a new song. I would love that. I would love to do it. Maybe another one you wrote something cool like that. I like it. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Well, man. And Scotty, I'm so happy you came on and shared your story and all the pieces. And I hope everybody goes out and supports you. You want to shout out your social media page so they can go follow you? Yeah, it's literally at Scotty Hasting music everywhere. Perfect. You made it simple, easy? Super easy.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Absolutely. So go stream it, go support him and all the stuff that he's incredibly doing, not just in music, but also with creativeettes and the story that he's trying to share and get out with the world. So Scotty, thanks for being here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's been wild.
Starting point is 00:56:08 It's been a wild year. and it's looking even crazy or no. I was going to say it's probably only going to get more wild for here. But that's a good thing. Yes, absolutely. Oh, thanks, Scotty. Thanks for being here. This is what it's all about for me,
Starting point is 00:56:18 getting to share stories like Scotties and so many of the other episodes that we've done. I think it's really important to share real people and their real experiences. That is how we connect with one another. That's how we feel community. It's how we feel less alone. And Scotty's story not only does just that,
Starting point is 00:56:34 but it's also a story of determination and hope. And I love everything about what he writes. represents. So really cool to have them on. Be sure to go and follow our Instagram page at Take This Personally. Also, you can watch all of these episodes on YouTube at Webgirl Morgan. And if you're subscribed, awesome. I love you. If you're not, go ahead and do that wherever you listen and as well as be ready for next week because we're going to talk some more veterans and families really in the space of homeless veterans. I have somebody coming on who's doing great work in the community. So love you and I'll yap at you next week. A win is a win.
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