The Bobby Bones Show - Pivotal Life Moments & 'Legally Blonde' Was Right

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

Morgan interviews Amanda E. White, LPC, the founder of Therapy For Women Center and known as the "retired party girl." Morgan and Amanda discuss how to get out of a negative head space, and the import...ance of not objectifying your body. Morgan learns relationship scars are real, and how one can easily identify red flags in the dating world. Amanda also helps us understand why personalities are not fixed and what addictive behaviors can look like in every day life. If you liked this episode, please rate, review & subscribe!  Follow Amanda: @therapyforwomen Follow Morgan: @webgirlmorgan Follow Take This Personally: @takethispersonallySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
Starting point is 00:00:12 my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:00:28 So let's get to it. Listen to the. the Clifford show on the IHeard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm Miles Turner.
Starting point is 00:00:41 And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk tanking. I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA.
Starting point is 00:01:00 We talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games. Check out Game Recognized game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramers sending on to Ernie Stewart the chip. Score!
Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm Tad Ramos. I'm Tom Boke. On our podcast, Inside a show. American soccer, you'll get the real storylines, the biggest decisions, and the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tabramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple
Starting point is 00:01:47 podcast, wherever you get your podcast. What is up, everybody? Welcome to the first ever episode of Take This Personally. I am so excited right now because this podcast has been months, almost years in the and it's just been a whirlwind and I'm so excited to finally share this incredible project with all of you guys. You may know me from the Bobby Bone Show. My name is Morgan. I've been through a lot of things and I felt it was time for me to share and talk and just expose the vulnerable parts of myself to help some other people wherever they may be in their lives. The idea for this podcast was born out of
Starting point is 00:02:43 the moments that I felt the most alone in my life and in the conversation. And in the conversation, that I would have with my family and friends following those moments. I knew that if what I was going through was happening to me, it was most likely happening to other people in some form or fashion. And they were likely going through really dark moments as well. And for me, I really hated navigating a lot of those moments feeling so alone. No matter that I had great support systems, I still felt very alone in what I was going through. And that's where this podcast kind of was born because I no longer wanted to feel alone and I didn't want anybody else to feel alone whatever situation they may be going through. I want people to be able to listen to this podcast
Starting point is 00:03:29 and feel heard whether it's through laughter or tears or they're like, oh my gosh, that's me. Even if this just helps one person, I will know that all of the dark moments and everything that I'm going through and me getting vulnerable on this microphone and sharing my stories is totally worth it. I'm going to bring on Amanda White to share her expertise in therapy on dating, how to see red flags, what it's like to be vulnerable after hard relationships, and how we can be in charge of changing our own lives. But first, I want to share a little background here or inside baseball, if you will, about my story and why I am the way that I am. So for me, I've been through a lot of kind of pivotal moments you could say in my life where I could
Starting point is 00:04:15 have taken the bad path or taken what happened to me and used it for good. When I was in high school, I was bullied by girls who I believed were some of my best friends. In that moment, I went through depression and anxiety and suicidal thoughts. And that was my first kind of kick in the butt of what the real world was really like. And I was 16, 17, 18 years old. I didn't really know that people could be mean. I had been very lucky in my life to believe that everybody was awesome and I had a lot of empathy for people. So this was my first experience at the fact that not everyone is always going to be kind to you. And I obviously didn't handle that very well, hence where the depression, anxiety and the suicidal thoughts that I experienced and my first ever experience with therapy happened.
Starting point is 00:05:08 In pivotal moment number two, I found myself in an abusive relationship. And of course, you know, toxic heartaches that came before and after said relationship. This moment of my life was probably the darkest and the hardest. I really found out who I was. I learned a lot about myself in the moments that followed. I experienced PTSD and trauma bonding, more anxiety and depression and a lot of loneliness and a lot of things that I had never believed actually happened in real life. I felt like I was going through something that I see in the movies. That's not a kind of movie I ever want to see or experience again. Pivotal moment number three is when I went through an identity crisis
Starting point is 00:05:54 and I was trying to navigate who I was and who I wasn't. And this followed that abusive relationship. It really made me question everything about myself, everything I thought I knew. And I experienced so much loneliness because I didn't know. who I was. I didn't know who to trust and I didn't know what to believe in. So these pivotal moments have shaped me to be who I am today and they are dark and they are hard and they were emotional. But I want to be vulnerable in each of those as these episodes come out and I share my story because if these stories that I've been through can connect to you and maybe you find yourself in one before, currently,
Starting point is 00:06:34 or later on, maybe these stories can help you navigate it so it doesn't feel so heavy. And these are just naming a few. These are just very big moments that I can recall at this point in my life and look back on and say that changed who I was. You know, for good or for worse, it changed who I was. For me, the person that I am, I have always been able to find the silver lining in situations. I've been blessed with that gift of being the person who is very empathetic and compassionate and understanding. I love that about myself, but it's also the reason I found myself in a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:08 hard situations. People take advantage of that. But I have to believe that those moments and these very pivotal things that I just kind of bull appointed here, I went through them for a reason. I have to believe that the darkness and the heartache and the hurt that I experienced was for a reason. I like to believe that that possible reason is so that I could use this platform that I've been given from Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show from all of the wonderful people who follow me on social media to actually do something with this platform and share my story and these moments of my life and other people's moments of their lives when I bring on guests and experts so that we can all connect. We can all feel less alone. We can feel seen and heard and all of these moments don't have
Starting point is 00:07:54 to be in vain. Everything that I experienced, everything that you experienced, or everything my friends and the people that I know experience, none of those things have to be as dark as they were when they happened. They can now provide a lesson, a reason. And that's my hope with doing this. I want to explore what it looks like to be the best version of ourselves when we face everything we've been through head on. I absolutely love who I am now. It has been the most crazy and rewarding experience of my entire life to be able to look back and say, I did that, or I went through that and I'm here now because of it. Or I had to suffer through this and now look at me, look at the strength that I have.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I want other people to feel what that joy is like to be the best version of themselves and feel proud and constantly want to work to just keep being the best version of themselves because the reality is just because we get to a point of being the best version of ourselves doesn't mean we're done. Doesn't mean it's over. That just means that season is over. And now we got to move on to the next one. And I just want this podcast and me talking to you all to be that for you guys.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Maybe it's tools, maybe it's resources, maybe it's just a friend that you feel like you're listening to them at a dining room table. There is no better place for me to share these stories, these life lessons and everything that I've been through in between than right here on this microphone where I can be very vulnerable. And hopefully, as the title of this podcast says, you guys can take this personally and run with it. I've been so lucky in my life to have people who have inspired me, empowered me, given me strength from my incredible parents, all of my sisters, to the great girlfriends who I have made over the course of my life and the wonderful mentors that I got a chance to be
Starting point is 00:09:47 around throughout these different phases. Take this personally, maybe me sharing my stories and talking with experts to help you on yours. But the goal of this podcast is, so that we as a community of men and women and in this era of life that we're in right now, feel connected and feel loved and supported. One of the biggest questions I often get asked is, how are you so happy? It feels like you figured everything out. And I'm going to tell you right now, I have not figured everything out. There are many things that you do not see on social media, and I've tried to create a place not only on social media, but now with this podcast, to show you that not everything is perfect. So one, I am not always happy and life is not always glamorous,
Starting point is 00:10:35 but I am in a wonderful place where I can now share the strength that I have with all of you. And so to answer that question, this story, these pivotal moments of my life, that's why I am the way that I am. And you will hear moments where I talk to these experts and talk to my friends where you will see these bleeding parts that show the finer details of those pivotal moments. But just know that in all the chaos that I went through, I found happiness because I chose it. Anybody can choose happiness. It's straight up a decision you make in your brain when you wake up in the morning. And so this podcast is me choosing happiness, is me choosing you all and us doing this together
Starting point is 00:11:15 because life just sucks when you're alone. Let's kick this off, y'all. I'm so ready to be here with you guys and that you guys are a little. I've got so many awesome guests stopping by, and we're starting it with a really cool one. And now that you've heard a little scope into the story that made me me, especially the most vulnerable parts, I mean, gosh, this is only the first episode, and I just got very vulnerable. So I'm going to try and keep it together. I want to bring on Amanda White.
Starting point is 00:11:48 She's a therapist and the founder of therapy for women. You know, she was super frustrated and the options out there for modern approaches to therapy. So she created therapy for women to help provide people with authentic and compassionate therapists who provide people with real life tools. And that's so important, especially right now in the society and space that we're in. She's also been an incredible follow for me on Instagram when I need a daily dose of honesty. I mean, yeah, we can all use that a little bit more. And I know she's definitely going to give us some more tools today to use in our own lives. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:12:26 A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 00:12:51 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the kids. the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right
Starting point is 00:13:16 where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. top. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramers sending on to Ernie.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Score at the chip. I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, inside American soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balligan. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back.
Starting point is 00:13:56 The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:28 You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body. having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation.
Starting point is 00:14:56 There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Amanda, I want to jump right in with you about why you've dubbed yourself a retired party girl. Yeah, absolutely. I dubbed myself that because I used to be, I mean, I don't drink anymore. I've been sober for almost eight years now. But to me, it's more than that. It's not, I don't identify as much as someone who's sober because so much happened during my
Starting point is 00:15:48 partying phase. I struggled with my mental health. I struggled with an eating disorder. I struggled with people pleasing and boundaries. So I think a lot of that all kind of intersects when I just wasn't taking care of myself. And I think a lot of us relate to kind of having something that we did in the past that we've moved through and it's shaped how we see the world and how we show up now. When I love that. I don't think there's enough retired party people in general out there. You know, I think it's really easy to socially drink and stuff. So I think that part of your story is so cool. So thanks for sharing that. Yeah. Thank you. You know, you talked about some behaviors that you had. I know something that you're familiar with is addictive behaviors. How are we supposed to distinguish between the two?
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah, I think the best way to understand an addictive pattern is it does serve a purpose in our life. And addiction can get this bad reputation as something that's, you know, immoral or something that someone is, you know, doing to harm themselves or others. But it's important to remember that someone wouldn't have started doing it if it wasn't helping control pain in some way. If it wasn't giving them a sense of control over their emotions or their life or giving them an. escape. So it's a myth that there's an addictive personality. The truth is addiction is complicated. It is a variety of different factors and some of us are more genetically predisposed to it. And also if you've been through trauma, depending on how you're raised, if you grew up around, you know, certain substances that can definitely make it more likely that you'll turn to that
Starting point is 00:17:28 substance or develop an addictive behavior. But it's complicated. So it's hard. It's hard. to know. A lot of us know about the ones like alcohol and drugs, but I think there's more to it than that. What are the other types of addictions we can have that maybe we just don't realize we could have? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's a whole kind of classification of process addictions, which is kind of like we get addicted to the process of doing something. So often kind of common process addictions you hear about are gambling, you know, the process of kind of gambling. eating disorders can end up kind of as a process addiction. The idea of starving ourselves, changing our bodies, how we look can be very addictive. But even stuff kind of like overworking.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I mean, you know, working really hard, people pleasing. Those can all be patterns that we get stuck in because again, it is serving a purpose for us. One of my coping strategies that I've always seen that I tend to do, whether I'm angry, sad, happy, anything. My natural thing is to to eat my comfort foods. Like that is my number one thing. Is that something that's healthier? Is that normal? You know, where does that fall on this kind of category of coping behaviors? It's a very normal thing. I mean, the truth is we're biologically wired to seek comfort when we're having big emotions. You think about being a child. We often seek, whether that's physical comfort from our parents, whether it's just like getting into bed when you're young, you know, you seek comfort. So
Starting point is 00:18:58 it completely makes sense. I think the hard part is when we become so in the habit of it that we don't have other coping skills as well. So I'm really against like the demonizing of like comfort food. I think that can happen sometimes on social media and things like that. And I want to, I want people to really know it's a normal natural thing that your brain is wired to do. But yeah, it's important to also look at the bigger picture and recognize is this actually helping me? Because yeah, Yeah, everything that we do is going to have pros and cons to it. So it's important to also look at, yeah, what other things might you be able to do? And maybe certain emotions, it may be more helpful to do other coping skills.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I also picked up boxing like four years ago. That's a huge strategy for me too. Do you feel like working out is one of those? I know that's also a hard balance for people as well. It can be a hard balance, but I mean, the research is really clear that exercise can be extremely beneficial. Just moving your body in general, obviously, like you kind of alluded to, if it's becoming, you know, you become obsessed with changing your body, losing weight, doing things like that. But even it can be, you know, your form of exercise could be walking. It could be stretching.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It could be doing yoga, doing something that's not super high impact also. But we do know that endorphins really help us and being able to release that energy really can help your brain process difficult emotions. So basically legally blonde was correct in telling us like endorphins are what makes us happy, right? We need to release those and get them out. Happy people may still shoot their husbands, but endorphins do make you do help with your mental health for sure. Oh my gosh, yes. As soon as anybody says endorphins, I have to immediately legally blonde every time. I do want to kind of change stuff here too. I don't think there's a woman I've met in my life that doesn't deal with kind of body image issues, whatever that looks like, however that came to be, everybody deals
Starting point is 00:21:01 with it in a different way. What are some steps that you suggest for any of us who feel that body image is a struggle to just kind of start to get out of that constant negativity space? Yeah. And I completely agree with you. I think it's something that women especially struggle with because we are objectified much more in the media. So what happens often is we start. to objectify ourselves. So self-objectification is when you kind of pick apart your body and you imagine, right, like maybe you're getting dressed, right? And you imagine what someone is thinking about how you look or, you know, you're slumped over in a chair and you like correct yourself because you don't want anyone to see a certain angle of you. That is objectifying yourself.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So one thing that we can do kind of to snap out of that is to stop looking at ourselves. as just body parts and try to look at ourselves as a whole holistic being. And when you notice yourself maybe like in the mirror, body checking or checking out different angles, trying to come back to wearing things that make you feel comfortable, wearing things that make you feel like you, that make you feel beautiful. I mean, a big thing I say to people often is if you had the body you loved, if you were totally confident in how you felt, how would your life be different. What would you wear? What would you do? What would you say? And then try to practice that even if you're in a body that you don't feel that way in yet. There's a connection as women, too,
Starting point is 00:22:38 that we've been taught. Not only have we been objectified so much, but also we've been told not to love ourselves. We've been told, you know, if we take too many pictures of ourselves or if we do things that make us feel good, we are narcissistic or we are too much into ourselves. And I do feel like, as we keep having these conversations and women keep talking about, oh, we're all feeling this way, there's this huge empowerment happening of like, no, we deserve to feel that way about ourselves. Are you seeing that kind of happen right now? I am. I think it's a good change.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And I think it's, I'm excited to see more women kind of taking back the idea too that like your hobbies matter. Like what you like matters. Even if other people think it's dumb or they're not interested in it. It's okay to like what you like. it's okay to be basic. It's okay to enjoy things that maybe other people don't. And it makes me so sad when people are struggling with their mental health. People struggle to find things they care about these days and love. And what we don't need is a bunch of people telling women what is okay for them to care about or be interested in. Speaking of taking things less personally,
Starting point is 00:23:47 I know you can't touch on this a lot. I want to know the world of social media and just in person too. how can we try to not take things so personally? I mean, I will say it's very difficult and I don't think anyone can do it 100% perfectly. My best tip for it, what I do and what I teach clients to do is when someone gives you a piece of feedback or says something that's particularly difficult for you. I would write down on a piece of paper what the person said. And then on the other side of the piece of paper, write down what is your interpretation. of what they said. Because words are painful for sure. And a lot of times what keeps us up at night,
Starting point is 00:24:33 what really stings is the interpretation of what that means. That's such a good tip. And really hard to do too. It's really hard to take it out of your head and your emotions and just leave it as what was said. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clever Taylor the fourth. You might have seen this. skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 00:25:13 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:25:49 American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramon sending on to Ernie Stewart for chip. I'm Tad Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about Balagan. I'm not worried about McKinney.
Starting point is 00:26:15 My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise. surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen to Inside American Soccer with Tom
Starting point is 00:26:43 Bogart and Tabramos on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and host of the podcast. a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty.
Starting point is 00:27:34 that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think it's important to also talk about that you can work so hard, get in a new relationship and still deal with what happened in the past a lot, even if you've perfectly went through all your growth period. And so I'm kind of seeing what advice you may have for those who have struggled with maybe cheating in past relationships or just bad past relationships.
Starting point is 00:28:08 it caused them to have insecurities about themselves and like how to feel good in a really new healthy relationship because I think it's not talked about enough. I mean, I think my first piece of advice is for everyone to give themselves a break. I think that we may have unrealistic expectations for ourselves. It's been through like we're talking about relationships where you've been cheated on multiple times, it's going to impact you because people probably told you or you told yourself it's not like don't worry about it. It's not happening. And you react differently when something that you were thinking about actually gets proven to be true. Multiple times makes it even more difficult. So this may always be something. You know, I think there's this idea like
Starting point is 00:28:54 healing is amazing. Trauma work is amazing. We change our lives and, you know, be different people. And at the same time, this is kind of like a scar for you. And it may always be something that's a little bit in the background and it may be something where it's a little more difficult for you to open up and trust people. And I think as much as you can trying to rely on if the person's actions and words are in alignment and trying to stay in the present moment of the relationship as much as you can. And you may need more support from that person too. You know, I think it's important to share if you're at that point in a relationship about our past so that that person can, you know, be a little more understanding and reassure us. But it may always be a scar, you know, like a real
Starting point is 00:29:40 scar on your body that never totally goes away. It can be clean and not have an infection and not be bleeding anymore. But there may always be a scar there. And I think it's cool to connect with people to know that that that exists. At least I know that I felt like when leaving a relationship, I'm like, okay, I've got through that one. I'm moving on to the new one. This is clean slate. But that's not the case. We all come with baggage and we all come with flaws and things. have happened in the past. And yes, to your point, we can all work through them as much as we want, but it's still going to be there. So what do you think for women who may be like right now in this relationship turmoil, especially with the dating world, the kind of way it is? Can they move through?
Starting point is 00:30:20 What are some, I guess steps? I keep asking you for steps and tips, but I think it's so important to have tools. So what are some things that you do that kind of help women through these phases? One thing is to start to understand what some of your triggers are. Explore what are, you know, things that have bothered you in past relationships. What are some signs? What are things that you're especially sensitive to so that you can kind of be mindful of those that come up in a relationship for you? And I think really starting to learn how to manage how you feel.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I mean, I think emotional regulation is one of the most important skills all of us can learn. Most of us were never taught how to process our emotions, how to sit through our emotions or anything like that. So if you can start to understand what some of those pain points are, what things tend to get you, you know, your nervous system activated. When our nervous system gets really activated, we're not able to kind of tap into our rational brain. We're not able to think super clearly or make super well thought out decisions. So it's important to start to be able to notice when that happens to us so we can pause. We can maybe go for a walk, take a shower, lay down on the floor, stretch, do something to kind of regulate your nervous system and bring yourself back down
Starting point is 00:31:41 before you maybe have a conversation with someone. As I've gotten older, my regulating of my nervous system has changed so much. It used to be going for long drives listening to music and now it's fetal position while my shower goes down on me. Yes. The difference in time. But I think so many of those things are really helpful. And those past relationships for me also came abuse. So there's deep trauma there. Surprisingly, there's so many more women that go through that that don't feel comfortable talking about it. So I like creating a space for people to feel like they can listen to this and have the resources to at least put one foot in front of the other.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah. From your perspective, you working with so many women too. I know you've seen so much. What are some red flags? Maybe we should also be looking for in the dating world. I mean, I think the biggest one is whether someone's actions match up with their words. I think it's really easy. And a lot of people can say lots of things on first dates or initial conversations and make women especially feel really, really special, you know, because they're still getting to know you and stuff. And if their words are not being backed up by
Starting point is 00:32:52 actions, I literally in the beginning of a relationship think go by actions. less than what someone says. And I think another important thing to remember is often people are the best version of themselves very early in the relationship. They're typically the most polite, the most understanding, the most kind, you know, the most considerate in that beginning stage because they want you to like them. So if they are not able to be what you want in terms of understanding or kind or any of those things in those first few dates, it's not going to get better from there. I think too, people aren't
Starting point is 00:33:29 all good or bad. So I think also sometimes people can be a fine person, but they're not the right match for you. Really, I think focusing on, I tell people like maybe picking five important qualities for you and everything else is kind of bonus. I think we can get so caught up in all these different characteristics we want. But at the end of the day, it really matters what works for. you. What, you know, might be a trigger for you, might not be a trigger for me. What bothers one person in a relationship doesn't bother someone else and trying to use your past history as a, you know, a lesson for what you need in a future relationship. On social media with some celebrity couples, and I'm not going to sit here and name them. But toxic relationships are also a part of this that are
Starting point is 00:34:16 very, we're seeing more of it, I feel like, on social media. What is a way to make sure that you don't put yourself in that. If you feel a toxic situation coming on, how can you kind of remove yourself and not get into it? Because those are hard to get out of just as much as a really close trauma bond type relationships and abusive relationship. Toxic is all the same in that category. It's on the spectrum for sure. And a lot of toxic relationships become abusive given enough time. I think some of the biggest qualities they're important to look for is someone who's willing to say that they're wrong, someone who is willing to say they made a mistake, own up to it, take feedback. I mean, at the end of the day, I think there's this unhealthy belief that there's only one person right out there for us and love is all
Starting point is 00:35:05 you need. And really, we need a lot more than love. And one of the most important qualities for relationship working long term is being able to give and receive feedback, is being able to have healthy communication skills. So those, I think, are some of the, and almost every toxic or abusive relationship, one person is not able to apologize, not able to take feedback, not able to change their behavior if they do something that someone doesn't like. They don't have good communication skills. I don't want to end on that note. So I also want to ask because I think this is all so important for people to hear because, again, we don't talk about it enough. And if we start putting it out there. Maybe some people can recognize that they're in these situations and get out of it
Starting point is 00:35:49 early. That's always the hope. But you know, I do want to throw some like positivity out in the world too. You've created such an awesome brand for yourself in the sense of being that retired party girl. But it's also just you've created this life that you really love. Yeah. So a few words, how did that kind of happen for you? And how can others start to kind of create a life that they would really love? I think so many of us can get caught in this is who I am. I was caught for a long time in I'm a party girl. I have an eating disorder. You know, I'm a drunk, whatever. And I think people really underestimate that, yes, some of your personality is fixed. But a lot of it is also what you want, what you want to choose to do with your life and how you want to show up. And if people can think about what values are important
Starting point is 00:36:39 to them in their life, how do they want their life to look? And then start thinking about what action they can take. Part of why I stopped drinking was because I really wanted healthy friendships, deep important friendships in my life. And I was not a good friend when I was drinking. I would desert people at bars. I would not. I was super flaky. And I realized that if I wanted to have those friendships and I wanted to have good self-esteem, I had to start doing things that didn't make me feel terrible about myself. So I think, yeah, some of it is just also you're not stuck the way. that you are, it may feel that way. It doesn't mean it's easy. But if you want something, if you want to be a better friend, if you want to have more self-esteem, if you want to be in a
Starting point is 00:37:23 relationship, you can start taking action towards those things. I think that's such a good thing to end on too because it's incredibly important to take action for yourself, not only for this you, but past you, future you all deserves it. Yes. Well, thank you so much, Amanda, for joining me hanging out with me, answering all of my crazy questions about everything from serious to happy. So I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me, Morgan. All right, y'all, that's it for the first ever episode of Take This Personally. Y'all learned a little bit about me and my story.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And plus, I know that I got some incredible tools and advice from therapist Amanda. And I hope you did too. On the next episode, I have on Dr. Solomon, who is a psychologist and one of the most trusted voices in the world of relationships and country artist Kylie Morgan who shared some difficult moments in her life and in her career. If you have some questions or advice you want answered by the experts that I bring on or myself, you can email, take this personally podcast at gmail.com. Thank you all for listening so much. I hope you have a fabulous day. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor
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