The Bobby Bones Show - SORE LOSERS: What Broke Lunchbox's Heart?

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

In this episode Lunchbox talks about that hate he has for Fantasy Football and how every year he says he isn't going to care but in the end he still ends up pissed off. Ray reflects on the mistakes he... and Justin have made as managers in The Sore Losers Fantasy League and what they're going to change going into next year. Also we help a couple of Vegas Virgins plan out their trip to Las Vegas in the Spring and Lunchbox has an apology for Ray. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:47 Did you already start it? Yeah, good. Ha, man. Happy Thanksgiving, Ray. Happy Thanksgiving. Audio guy here. So it may be it's just that my mic is so jacked up because I have the volume all the way up. And yours I've turned down.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Talk. I'm talking. I'm here. Does it sound bad? I mean, here's the honest thing. And I'm not trying to be a little itch. I'm trying to be like real. Maybe try wearing freaking headphones.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Not going to do it. Why? I mean, why would you compromise the product for some. stupid thing. No one cares if you wear headphones. It doesn't make a difference. You wearing headphones doesn't screw up the pot. You not wearing headphones could possibly screw
Starting point is 00:02:37 up the pot. Sometimes they drop plastic at the conveyor belt into a product and makes it not as good. Sometimes there's glass. Sometimes there's metal. If the product doesn't go out perfect, then we put a recall out. But how
Starting point is 00:02:53 do you recall it once it's out there you can't change the audio? If you are listening to it in real time, you'll be able to say, okay, that doesn't sound right. Do you want my rebuttal? Yeah, I do. I don't have one. I did want to say, though. Obiza was great the other day.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's what you wanted to say? Was he not phenomenal? He was really fun. That was fun. It was a good time. You know what's not fun talking about my headphone usage. You know what's really funny is that you put up a stupid cat calendar in our studio. Like, it looks ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Like Ray, I don't know, he went to the nail salon, and he, he got a cat calendar and it is now hanging up in here and it looks ridiculous. It's Beezer. And you have it on the wrong month. And she, it starts in, it starts in December. So December 1st. But she goes, hey, would you use this? And I said, I have just a place. The people at work pissed me off so much. I'm putting up a cat calendar because it makes me happy. And it's funny because it'll make all these guys manly men mad. Scova battle. No, Wayne D. came in here, ripped it down. Yeah, he didn't want that on the camera, man. You're going to post a pick, dude. People are going to love it. I mean, it looks so
Starting point is 00:04:03 ridiculous. I looked up and behind Ray, there's three kittens in a freaking, like two in a box and one by a Christmas tree. I mean, come on. I don't know when the last time I saw a paper calendar hung on the wall. No, don't look at January yet. I don't want to see January, man. You got to wait for the surprise. Like, come on. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to screw with people at work. I'm taking a cat calendar. This damn place. And you know, it's great about the cat calendar. There'll be nothing written on the dates.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Nothing. Absolutely nothing will be filled out. And you always wonder, I wonder why that teacher has that on their desk. Or I wonder why I guide his job as a weird coffee mug. It's because you stare at the same thing every day. And they're eventually going to block our view of the city with a 24-story high-rise. So you know what? I put up a new cat calendar to make this little studio that none of the screens work.
Starting point is 00:04:59 spice it up a little bit. I do believe the screens work. It's just you haven't even tried to put our logo up. You haven't even tried the camera. Supposedly, it's split screen and we always get texts. Hey, are the cameras working? And I just lie and say they're not working because you know why? Because we forget to try them every single day. It would take us five minutes pre-show to do it. But do we have time for that? No. We had like, we're in such a hurry. Oh, my gosh, they just went black. And there's a sore loser's logo. So they do work. Now hit the camera and tell me if the camera works. I wonder if the camera does work and it's split screen like they said. Because if it is, then we are idiots. And I've been telling people that things are broken and they're not really broken.
Starting point is 00:05:38 They were though about two days ago. Sorry I don't have an up to the minute breakage report. I know, but that logo does look good. I'm going to tell you what. I'm happy with, oh, I heard a dink. Did you just hit record? Yeah, no. But it's not split screen. Okay, then I don't care. Then see if you hit it though. If I hit it. There you go. Now it's split screen? No, but it's back to what it used to be. What about that? Is that split screen? That's a darker view of you angle. No, no split screen. Turn the cameras off. Don't care. Now you can send this to the president of the network and say, look, see, still doesn't work. That way we tried it. Doesn't work. Let's move on. Boom. I'm in a bad move. That was a good YouTube. 28 seconds. That's going to get a lot
Starting point is 00:06:20 of hits. It's you complaining. Well, I'm about to complain some more. You want me to complain some more? You want me to complain some more? Because I'm going to tell you what. I'm going to tell you what's really stupid. I'm ready. Fantasy football is so stupid. Are you going to get rowdy? Are you ready? You're ready? I'm going to tell you. Every year, I tell myself, I'm not going to care as much about fantasy football. I'm not going to let it ruin my day. Well, I lied. Fantasy football has ruined my day. It has ruined my week. It has ruined my month. Because here we are with two weeks to go in the regular season of the fantasy football. Soar Losers Podcast League.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I have been in first or second place since week one. You're blowing out your microphone. For 12 straight weeks, I have been in the playoffs. And then back to back weeks, I had to play the big tsunami. I saw the big tsunami coming weeks ago when I looked at the schedule and said, oh, man, I got to play this dude back to back. Don't like the team name. Sunami, really? The one that hit Chinese Taipei, I believe in 2004-ish.
Starting point is 00:07:37 That was devastating. Change your team name. Not sure. It's not the same thing. It's a different tsunami. This one's just out in the ocean. And I saw it. I saw the dude's team and I was like, I got to play that team back to back.
Starting point is 00:07:51 That is not good for my mental health. That's the schedule creators. That's, yeah, that's my fantasy league. You and batter the box. No, you have to play one team twice. I don't know why the schedule makes it back to back. I have no idea why it does that, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:08 It doesn't matter. I got absolutely spanked the first week. I put Texcherra on the bench. He scored like 30 points the first week. Wouldn't have mattered but at least it would have been closer. Then the second week, I play him. Are we doing a breakdown of the
Starting point is 00:08:24 entire season? No, this is just this past week and the second week I play him. winner is going to be in second place, losers in third place. Sure. And on the outside looking in for the playoffs. And my team starts out great. We get Armand St. Brown in the end zone. We get Injigba in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Careful. We get other people in the end zone. I'm feeling good. Bradshaw's in hot water. Yeah, I know. And then I told you he needs to retire. I've been saying it and now people are joining me on that bandwagon. Give me credit.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I said it at the beginning of the season. I'll see if we have video of it. Thank you. Probably not because it's not split screen. Then we get to the Browns game and they get down and they don't even have Shador Sanders in the game. They just give it to Quinshawn and the Raiders act like they don't know how to tackle. He has two touchdowns within five minutes of each other.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Then A.J. Brown scores a touchdown. Then A.J. Brown scores another touchdown that gets taken off the board. Then DAC to George Pickens touchdown. And all of a sudden here comes the big tsunami and absolutely obliterates my face. See, not night. I mean, it obliterated people's lives, the tsunami. The big thing is, now I am not in the playoffs. But you can control your own destiny.
Starting point is 00:09:39 No, I don't. I don't. All big time tsunami has to do is win two games and I'm out. That would be controlling your own destiny, is. No, I need big time tsunami to lose. I have to have him lose or I'm out because here's the thing. Me and Justin need five teams to lose two weeks in a row. We have mathematically been eliminated. I thought we were going to be 13 and 1.
Starting point is 00:10:05 We're 6.7. Yeah, that Scataboo, when he got hurt, it really killed you. It really hurt your team. Here's the problem. So two weeks ago with McMillan, I would have had an extra 30 points on my team. Great. I would have lost, but I would have had extra 30 points. This week, I went with Brock Purdy over.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Sam Darnold, because Sam Darnold in the second half, they're already killing teams. He doesn't even do anything. So I was like, I'm going to go with Purdy. It's going to be a shootout. Purdy through three interceptions got me nine points, 12 less than freaking Sam Darnold. If I would have played those two players, we would be almost even on points. You're predicting the past, predictive future. So now I am down 40 points to this dude, and I'm not going to make up 40 points in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Oh, overall. Overall. Because we're going to end up maybe with the same record and then it comes to points. And I'm going to lose because I sat two players two weeks in a row. He kicked my butt two weeks in a row. And maybe you could say, oh, if you can't beat him, you don't deserve to be there. But man, it sucks. It's always possible to not score a touchdown because there was that week.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And Sunday, I watched Red Zone. and not once did I see one of my players on the TV. I checked the website. We didn't score one touchdown, which is almost unheard of in fantasy, because your quarterback's usually at least guaranteed one. Yeah. We went touchdownless.
Starting point is 00:11:38 That's pretty bad. Yeah, considering I thought we were going to go 13 and 1, and we ended up going 6, 7. So it's been a rough few days to realize that I'm not going to make the playoffs. Neither are me and Justin. Yeah, yeah, but I said I wouldn't going to get mad about it, but I was pissed. Because it's a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I've been pissed for a few days now. I mean, you're talking a mortgage payment. You're talking down payment on a car. Yeah. And so batters box is like, oh, you're winning by 50. I said he's got A.J. Brown, Dak Prescott, George Pickens, Quinn John Juckins. He's got all those people who go. He's like, oh, my God, you got this in the bag.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He had McCaffrey to go. And then the Niners, they don't do it any. anything but give it to McCaffrey. That's all they do. Well, they don't have IUC. They don't have, they don't have, they don't have. So why not give Christian McCaffrey the MVP of the NFL? Like the dude is unbelievable. He won't get it. It's going to be Matthew Stafford. I understand, but they only give it to quarterbacks. But good God, McAfree, without McCaffrey, I don't know where the Niners would be. He's the MVP of the league. And I'm just so frustrated with fantasy football. So I'm just
Starting point is 00:12:47 looking at it and just going, damn, man, I'm not going to make the playoffs. Like, I worked that hard. I was in first or second place the entire season until two weeks left ago. And the magic ran out. It's over. And I'm very depressed. Yeah, me and Justin, we don't, we refuse to do the math. But I think we've been mathematically eliminated.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Because to have five teams lose two weeks in a row is pretty impossible. Pretty much impossible. Yeah. But we have the most points. So if we tie anybody, we win. We just can't reach them because they're two games ahead. but you know who's making the playoffs batters box dominating his division yeah this is a tough one because i ended up breaking it down all the six seasons we've done it scuba took one of mine so
Starting point is 00:13:34 maybe five and i was eight and four one year i never had made the playoffs until just in last year but i usually had losing records so this is pretty normal for me to go to have a lot of promise and then to just kind of fizzle out in fantasy, not in life. Yeah, I think I've made the playoffs most of the years. I've never won to my division. I've always been second place. Never won my division. The champion seems to come from my division a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Muscle White, Ashley White. They came from my division. It seems like I always have the eventual champ. And the way big time tsunami's rolling right now with all those players, McCaffrey Pickens, A.J. Brown, freaking Dak Prescott, they're putting up 100. He scored
Starting point is 00:14:25 175 this week. At least we'll still have some high point money coming in. I scored 1.45 and I lost. I'd have beat every other damn team in the division. So have we. So have we. We're the high point. We're like the top five team in a tire league of 48 teams and we're 6 and 7. And there's a couple things that really stand out the most to me.
Starting point is 00:14:43 During one of the weeks, I picked up Kendrick Bourne and he had 20 points. That actually gave us to win. So I was solely responsible for that win. But I was also responsible for getting the BTJ killer in the second round. And he was terrible this year. And BTC. Oh, Brian Thomas. Yeah, he ended up.
Starting point is 00:15:01 He's been awful. Awful. He was a letdown. And I was responsible for telling Justin Lamar is not going to have a second good year in a row and went with Patty. And that was smart. Patty was the leader for a majority of the season. Very good. The biggest downfall, though, that's going to go on my file, could get me terminated, could
Starting point is 00:15:17 get me fired. There's probably going to be a new coach. And there's already people, him and hon, about who it's going to be. Is Abby replacing me in the league? We know it won't be Arnold. We know it won't be Arnold. But I am getting fired probably. But Quinn Sean Judkins, I dropped him. We had him on our team.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And I was just like, ah, do some housekeeping. Get him off our roster. He's not even on a team. He ends up signing a contract. He's an amazing player and puts up massive numbers this year and beat our ass the entire year. And I just dropped him for free under the waiver wire. That's a tough one. So that's what's going to get me fired for Justin. What did he do?
Starting point is 00:15:53 It was something. Charbonnet, running backs, wide receivers. He's done some stuff this year. He's done some stuff. My mistake, and it goes back to draft night, man. When I'm sitting there at number 11 and it gets to me, and number 11 overall, I took Ashton Jinchy. In the first round.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yes. You want to talk about a terrible. terrible, terrible, terrible pick. So from that moment on, I've been hanging by a thread with my running backs because Ashton Jenshi has been absolutely awful because the Raiders' offensive line has been awful. And you know who went five picks after Jinchie in the first round?
Starting point is 00:16:38 Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Jonathan Taylor Thomas. So not only did I pit, I passed on him, I took Jinchie, then I took Armand St. Brown The second, and then a couple picks after that, someone picked Jonathan Taylor Thomas. And I could have had Jonathan Taylor Thomas and my team would have been unfreaking stoppable. Instead, here I am on the outside looking in and I am pissed off. Instead of predicting the future, we're predicting the past.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Love it. We went with Gibbs first round. I'm fine with that. Oh, yeah, you think he's been great. I can actually sleep easy at night and I am not worried about going on that balcony when I go look at the view in the morning. because JTT, Jonathan Taylor Thomas, I wanted him, but because of where we were in the pick, we had like the second pick.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Jonathan Taylor Thomas, it didn't come around to us in the second round for a while, so he had already been picked up four picks before us. Thank God, because I'm telling you, it would have been rough. Because I told Justin, I said Jonathan Taylor Thomas is going to be massive, but we just couldn't do it in the second round. It wasn't in the cards for us.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, rough, ma'am. So as we head into Thanksgiving, I'm not thankful. for fantasy football. It has caused me a lot of pain and suffering these last few days, these last couple of weeks. And when the playoffs start, I won't be a part of it. And I'm going to be very mad.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I don't even want to pay attention. Then I've got to pay out these people, all this money, and I'm not going to get any of it. And it's really going to piss me off. You can just send it over to your brother at Thanksgiving. Also, Justin, he picked up Tyler Warren. Amazing. Thank you. Love you for that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He was also responsible for the Scatibu trade, got hurt, but he was pretty big. I will say this, if we have a minute. We have a minute, man. The saddest thing of it all. Justin, that money, he was playing on it. Oh. Like, he said he really needed it.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Oh. It wasn't the winning and losing. He needed a couple thousand. Yeah. I need to get his car fixed. He told me a month ago, he goes, hey, straight talk, I need that money. and that's usually man-to-man that he's either down. He's got a big purchase he's got to make,
Starting point is 00:18:48 but he was actually counting on it. And he may have spent it ahead of time. That's actually the biggest thing. So if you can get us that high point as soon as possible to pay out, what is it, $10 a week? It's $20 a week. I paid the first two weeks now it's like, oh, I'm going to be on top of this all year.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And then kind of fell apart. Well, I'll take 40 now and we'll call it goods. Well, I need to look. I don't know for sure. Right, but Justin needs the money. Yeah, but I don't know if you really hit it. Right, but I told him I'd get your 40 for him today. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Because he needs it by Friday. All right. I'll get on there right now. We'll take a break and I'll go check the high points. We'll be right back. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Rodriguez after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft.
Starting point is 00:19:43 and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions,
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Starting point is 00:21:43 Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm just kidding, man. He doesn't need it that desperately. But if you could, if you could just send it over to him. I got it, man. I'm getting on it right now. I'm going to go over to Venmo right now.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And there we go. There you go, right. Okay. Now, we got an email DM from Joey Burton. Hey, coaches, since lunch can't figure out how to respond to DMs or emails, maybe you guys can help me. Could you read this on the pod so I could hear what we have to say? My fiancé and I are going to Vegas for the first time in the spring. What do you in lunch recommend doing during the daytime that's not gambling for first-time Vegas goers?
Starting point is 00:22:34 What restaurants are must-does? What hotel and casinos do you guys recommend? Thanks. Vegas Virgins. Hear me on this one, and you're going to be better with the actual establishments. But I will say this. A year to the day. Thanksgiving last year.
Starting point is 00:22:50 went to Vegas. And my regret, it was the, not the fighting, but it was the gambling fighting of basers doing slots. I'm doing bubble craps in sports. I'd say half the trip we didn't even spend with each other. It would be her saying, oh, come over to my machine and I'd say, hey, watch this bubble craps with me. The most enjoyable part of the entire trip was us at the aria, playing bubble craps. We had a graveyard of high noons that they kept bringing to us for free. I was also dipping into the roulette because Janet, who also wanted the tip at the end of the night,
Starting point is 00:23:29 was throwing the ball around like I'd never seen it before. We left there up 900 to go to Shania Twain, but it was the moment we spent together. So don't let the gambling get in front of you and your chick. If she's playing in a machine, watch her. Those dice are going to be there, an hour. The ball is going to be there in two hours and blackjack is going to be there in the morning. I guarantee it. Don't split up. So many times I think back, I'm like, I was playing
Starting point is 00:23:56 bubble crept for hours by myself. The best time was me and her taking turns and I'll hang up and listen. Not taking turn. You know what I meant. Not like sexually. Yeah. Over to you, ma'am. Not sure anybody thought that. I would say, let me tell you like this. I'm starting to believe that maybe you should stay downtown Vegas. Old Vegas. Because honestly, I believe it's cheaper. You're going to find gambling minimums
Starting point is 00:24:26 will be cheaper. The hotel rooms should be cheaper. The food will be cheaper in downtown Vegas. Old Vegas. It's called Fremont Street. It's really cool. Fremont Street is awesome. Circus sports book.
Starting point is 00:24:42 You go to the circus sports book. Check it out with the pools. I mean, During the day, what you can do? You take a cap over to the strip if you want to go see the strip. And I say, listen, and this sounds old and I sound like an old man. But if you're not going to be gambling all day, go by the Bellagio and look at the floral garden. I'm going to tell you what. It's so amazing what they can do with flowers.
Starting point is 00:25:07 They're setting up for Christmas now. But it's going to be the spring when they go. So it'll be a whole new display. Oh, yes. So it's going to be. The flower garden is unbelievable. Yes. That's where we ran into those women from overseas.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Really? Isn't it not? You and me when we were chilling at the pool with those chicks? We met some chicks at the pool? I think it was a couple nice Japanese chicks, was it? That was at... Was that Bellagio? Were we at the pool or were we at the club?
Starting point is 00:25:41 It was a club that had a pool. That was at the encore. What a place. What a place. And the sun was coming up. And Ray was like, oh man, I got to go catch my flight. Bro. And Ray bailed out of there.
Starting point is 00:25:58 That was unbelievable night. That was fun. That was a great night. But I also say you go see the Bellagio fountains, but I think they're cooler at night to see the fountains during the day, kind of anticlimatic. It's hot and you're just standing there in the sun. I like it at night. it's lit up, it looks cooler to me. Just go into any casino on the strip.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They're all so cool. So chandelier bar at Cosmopolitan, awesome. Grab a drink, cocktail there. Pictures with the chick. There's big old high heels in the Cosmopolitan that are cool to take a picture in. Restaurants, I don't know what kind of food you like and what kind of budget you're on. I mean, I love Javier's inside Aria. I love Best Bros.
Starting point is 00:26:42 at MGM Park, Park MGM. It is so freaking good. Somebody told me, is it Golden Steer maybe? They have some. You can get, what was it? You could get lobster and maybe, I mean, just a surf and turf, and they just put butter all over it. It might have been about 60 bucks, but they said it was the best meat, Surf and turf that you're going to get.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And also at the Stratt. Yeah. So not a lot of people go there anymore. I've been there. You can get amazing food is what we were told by our cab driver. Oh. So it's off the beaten path. It's not your one that everybody's going to.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah, but I'm saying like, and then also, if you want to do a gondola ride at the Venetian, I've never done it, but I see people do it. I don't, you just walk around. During the day, you just walk around. Go see a show at night. Like, careful, careful. These guys all left me one time to go watch Jersey Boys.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Oh, God. I mean, no, tell me that was a mistake. No, no. Yes what? I had a blast, bro, because I didn't go to the show. I don't know if it was called Jersey Boys. Jerky. Because I think that's a musical.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Jerk your boys. I don't know. But it was the rat. No, it's the rat pack is back. And it was like Frank, I think Frank Sinatra was a rat. pack. I don't know who they were. Thank God I didn't go.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And they were just like acting like those people. It wasn't the real people. And it was so God awful and so boring. And it was at the Rio. And it was like two hours long. And I was like, oh my gosh, please make this end. I just said this is so boring. I stayed back at the hotel when I first met these guys.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I had a blast hanging out with people. gambling, living life instead of sitting in a theater for two hours. I get it. I totally understand, man. But if it's a good show, let's be real. I went to Chenaya Twain, it was pretty awesome. It was worth every bit of that hour and a half. Yeah? Tadley, yeah. Were the drinks like 22 ounces and the whole time you're carrying in a motor oil can? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:58 But music was great. She sounded good. I saw Garth Brooks there. It was freaking phenomenal. I would suggest, you know, Vegas virgins, what you don't need to do, maybe you want to do this because it's your first time. Get one of those yard drinks, the frozen ones, and ones shaped like the Eiffel Tower. I mean, they're all different kinds.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Saxophone. Sacksophone. Playing the sax. Nope, just getting drunk. They look really cool. But after about two drinks, you're like, oh, my God, I got to finish this thing. And then you feel the pressure and you've got to carry that thing around.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It's heavy. But it's phenomenal. Can I tell you one thing not to do? Yeah, go ahead, man. I would love it. Those machines that say, we'll make your pizza inside of this box. We had one. Oh, like a vending machine.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yes, but it's an oven and it'll make a pizza and there's no human. It's all AI. We had one at our place at the link. Oh, okay. Planet Hollywood. Oh. The last place we stayed at. The link.
Starting point is 00:29:59 The link? It was the link. Got it. It wasn't good. Oh. I was also. so hungover, but I had that I could not get
Starting point is 00:30:10 that taste out of my mouth for like a month. It might have been the hangover, but it just wasn't good. There's better pizza out there. Search it out, but don't go with an AI robot making your pizza. Oh, come on over. I have a pizza. You're looking
Starting point is 00:30:26 for that type of a guy, not an AI. Also, don't buy the party pack of jello shots. I think we got him from Planet Hollywood. I mean, it was supposed to be three each, and there was a couple that we were going to get four. And we were fighting over who's going to get four. And we took the first jello shot. And everybody started fighting.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I only get three. I only get three. I only get three. I only want three. I don't want three. I can't eat more. No, I don't want to do four. No, I only want three.
Starting point is 00:30:58 That bad. It was the worst damn thing I've ever had in my mouth. We were all like, oh. So awful. I mean, the whole group was fighting for four. Instantly after one, everybody was fighting for three. Do the tram. Definitely do the past.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Oh, do the tram. It's $20 a day, and it pretty much connects to all the casinos you want to go to, not to Fremonts and stuff like that. So that would be a cab ride. But you can go see in one day 12 casinos. So just ask somebody, where's the tram, and there's a route, and it's the easiest route. You just pay it.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You get a card. It's, me and. bayser, hop on the tram to the next casino. Then you go out of that casino into the tram. So you're not necessarily on the strip if you're doing a tram day, but you're seeing almost every casino for $20. Yeah. And Vegas virgins, I don't know what your lifestyle is like now. Like if you have kids or you don't have kids, if you like staying up late or not, don't be afraid to take a nap. Don't be afraid. I mean, I know this is sacrilegious in Vegas. but you get a two to three hour nap in the middle of that afternoon. It energizes you to be able to stay up until two, three, four in the morning,
Starting point is 00:32:12 Vegas style. It's unbelievable. But I don't know. I don't know your budget. So that's what my suggestion. Just walk around and see everything. You're just going to find stuff to do. Maybe go to a club.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I don't know if you like going to the clubs, but the clubs are amazing if you like clubbing. It's the one time I would tell you, my recommendation would be just walk around. Yeah. Don't do these plans where, hey, honey, at two we're going to see the sphere. They got a giant giraffe that's going to be in there. I mean, go there, Vegas, feel it out? Do you feel like seeing a giraffe?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Vegas is a city you can land with no plans. Ding. So that's why we also like it. Don't set a schedule because if you get hot at the table, if you're gambling, maybe you don't gamble. If you're hot at the table, you don't want to have to be, oh, we have to be, you know, we said we're going to go see the spear at 2 o'clock,
Starting point is 00:33:00 and then we're going to go to the strat at 3. It's fluid, man. The only thing you said, maybe make a dinner reservation or a show reservation, besides that, just let and live, man. Live and let be. I think that's how it goes. But that's my suggestion. I mean, stay downtown, though, it's cheaper.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's a lot cheaper. Bringing back the memories of me and Bezor, how cool we used to be with each other. I remember this is when we were married, still married. She would say, she goes, hey, you can go to that boxing fight. I bet the boxing fight. It was Tank versus somebody in Tank 1. He was like, Tank Bigsby?
Starting point is 00:33:36 I don't know his last name. I just know his nickname was Tank. No, not the running back. And so, Beezer goes, oh, you bet it. Do you want to go see it? Oh, Frank the Tank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And I said, I'm in Vegas. I could go watch my bet in person. So I had whatever app up game time, let's say. But then I realized I'd be paying $200 just to be in some, something adjacent to the boxing venue. It wasn't even to get into the boxing event. It was that big of a fight. Oh.
Starting point is 00:34:03 But I realized it at the last. second it was MGM. But Beezer yeah, she goes, why don't you go watch the fight that you bet? And I said, I love Vegas. I saw AI there. Alan? Yeah, Alan was gambling.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Oh. Him. There's always people walk and see and be seen. That's great. And another thing, just people watch, man. Sit there, have a cocktail in your hand and sit around and watch people. It's amazing. The people watching is amazing in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Vegas. I don't know if we even did a good job of telling what to do, man. I think we did because this just made me want to go back to Vegas. Oh, man, I can't wait to go back to Vegas. It'll be soon. Beezer the other day muttered something about five years. And I said, excuse me? Going in five years. Right, that we will actually need to reconvene on that timetable that she gave me.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't even know where I'll be in five years. I believe I'll be able to cash out my 401K in five years, like, What? What are you talking about five years? More like max five months. I'll be back in Vegas. And we'll be back in five minutes right after this. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft. and which players were my favorite picks.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:36:49 There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you for those commercials, y'all. That was great, man. Hopefully there was a, hey, come visit Las Vegas.com. The commercials are great and they sound good too. Yeah. Because I would go from our terrible audio to the commercial audio,
Starting point is 00:38:00 and I said, something's wrong with ours. But I think it'll be better this time because I lowered you. I'm going to boost them both up and I think we'll be set. All right. Hey, man, I trust you. You're the audio guy. I'm not the audio guy. I'm just telling you what people said online.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But I do want to tell you, Ray. Yeah, happy Thanksgiving, man. Happy Thanksgiving. I just want to say happy Thanksgiving to Sorel Losers Nation out there, each and every one of you, the 232 people that we now have listening to this podcast. It's now 231. Oh. Arnold dropped off.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. So we do appreciate you guys. And we want to say happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. And hopefully it's freaking great and great football. and I want to apologize to Ray before we go to Thanksgiving break. I'm good, man. No, no, no, no. I told you I don't understand how you watch that your Siriani guy.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Porn, Ray. But I guess we talk about that Siriani guy that you like, and he popped up on my thing. I enjoy him. I don't recommend him to anybody. He's a strong character. And I watch a couple of his gambling things. He's got this hot chick just standing there to his side, her knockers, Mountain Rainer trying to come up over the top of her shirt, almost knocking her in the chin.
Starting point is 00:39:14 She got like a white tube top on. I'm like, hell yeah, I like this video. And she doesn't cheer. She just stands there with a little handbag on her arm. Doesn't say anything the whole video. And I'm like, well, this is weird. And he's down to his, and he bets 5,000 on a hand. And that's real.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And he hits it. And he's like, whoa, let's go again. Let's go. I mean, how crazy it was. I think he had a 17. And the dealer's showing 10. And he, I mean, he paced back and forth. He got out of the chair, walked, came back, came back.
Starting point is 00:39:47 What was knockers doing? Just sitting there. Oh, just, she wasn't even sitting. She was standing. Oh, mountain ranging. He sat right in the middle of the table. She was on the left side. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Okay. That's how it gets into your algorithm. And what, the knockers are sitting in the middle? No, it's just how it becomes popular. I mean, who's not going to watch gambling, a guy that's kind of a bad A and a mountain range. And I think he took a hit on the 17. I'd never seen that in my life. Well, that's not by the book. And he usually goes by the book. And maybe he didn't. But he, he, and he won. And he won. And he's, and he won again. He's all, all right, we're getting out of here. Then he went to a new sport,
Starting point is 00:40:27 a new high roller room. They're like, oh, this is just open. Let's take a look. And he's like, no camera's allowed inside. And then he walks out and he's like, 15 minutes. I made this much money. And he shows his chips. I'm like, all right, cool. Then it shows some other people. and one guy has $600 on his hand and the guy's betting to his less he's betting $15 and he lose the guy on the left gets a bike shot
Starting point is 00:40:51 and he's like yeah and the $600 dude loses and he's like man I just lost $600 can you stop cheering? It was in Siriani's video? No it was a different one. Got it. And so then I was like
Starting point is 00:41:02 these gambling videos are actually not bad and so I apologize to Ray because I was like I have to say, they're actually kind of entertaining. Well, this guy last night, what is his name? Polly D. His name's Polly C. Oh. And he went live at Plaza. He goes to Plaza every other night at least.
Starting point is 00:41:24 He loves Plaza. Yeah. And he was playing bubble craps and he went live. And. So when he goes live, does he have someone there holding the camera for him? Well, sometimes he'll have a girl doing it. and he just steps back, has her whole figure in the screen. He'll sometimes go up and show you the dice.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Sometimes he'll show you how much he has. So he's got to choose what he shows. So he's showing the thing. He's not showing his face. Not showing his face. Got it. Because that's really the last thing you want to see. You want to see what the dice are doing.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You want to see what the cards are doing. The chick's doing. And so he's videoing it. And he, when I watched it, he lost 1600. And somebody in the comments go, Hey, guys, I've been watching this. Anybody can keep in track since the beginning? What's he downed?
Starting point is 00:42:08 And somebody goes, it's definitely more than 4,000. Oh. And three comments later, somebody goes, been watching the entire stream, he's down well over $8,000. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:23 But his way of doing it is so dumb. He'll put $25 down. And then there's your point. Once your point happens, then he'll put, whatever that point is, say it goes to five. He'll do times five every time.
Starting point is 00:42:37 So he puts $125 on every number that it lands on. So say he gets five numbers, that's $600 he has on the table. And if it hits a seven, he loses $600. But if he goes on a 12-roll roll, he's going to make like a crap load. Yeah. But you're also risking that $600. So he always leaves it all on the table. And he's always putting money on the cum.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He's putting, yeah, so the come is what, it'll be the seven. Yeah. And so And he does this on bubble crap Yeah, I guess you can't really film real craps It's too busy, too fast. Right, and you gotta get permission with the bubble craps. You can film it, they don't give a crap.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And it was between about 2 and 2.30 a.m. I went to the gym. I got back on. He was signed off, but last I heard on the bubble, he lost over $8,000, which at my old place,
Starting point is 00:43:30 that sounds like about eight months in rent. Oh. Hey, did you know someone in the building lives there? Your old place? Really? Yeah. McKitty? No.
Starting point is 00:43:42 She was telling me the other day. She was like, yeah, it's great. But he has deals with these casinos. So do I think that they give him $8,000 to gamble with? Hell no. I bet they give him a $1,000 ticket and then he loves the game. So he dips into his own savings a lot. I bet they'd give them a little bit to play with.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah. I mean, I wonder if the casino, no, they can't just give them money. That can't be comp money because that wouldn't make sense. Well, they don't comp Seriani. He plays his real money. And this Pauly C guy, they ain't giving him $8,000 to play with. So that was real money. When I saw his money in his hand and it's shaken and he's having to rip it from himself to put it in the machine,
Starting point is 00:44:28 that ain't money that they're just gifting him. And when he would lose, this Pauley C guy. Are you kidding me? We just can't catch a break. Listen, when anybody sounds like a little... That's not free casino money. That's money that's hard earned that's getting pulled right out of his pocket.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That's a good point. And also, you know when he's winning because he's showing the chick? Towards the end of that stream, it's just the dice. And all I would see is a five, seven, nine, seven, two, seven.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It was, which I'm thinking, buddy, root against it. That's when you want to, bet against it. No, you never bet against it. That's what I would have came in. And that's why everybody, that's why you, if you're betting against it, everybody hates you at the table. That's why I do it secretly.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Okay. When I did it on the cruise ship and me and that guy were secretly betting against the table. And we had to clap hands underneath the table because there's about seven people looking at it's like they're going to kill us. Oh man. We got an email. I knew I was going to be
Starting point is 00:45:28 traveling today, so I saved up the last few pods I listened to on the drive. We got to Austin this evening with some kids who are running the state cross-country meat and round rock on Saturday. I'm here until Monday when I meet the band in San Antonio for their state contests at the Alamo Dome on Tuesday. Anyway, the reason for this email, we are talking to the band, probably 130 or more people total to eat Monday night at Magic Time Machine and San Antonio. It's an odd place for adults, but kids have a blast there. The services are dressed up and act in character. If a kid goes towards a restroom, they call them out and embarrass them.
Starting point is 00:46:07 You mention it on the pod, so I thought I'll let you know we are going. I'll send some picks from inside of it next week. Thank you, Jeremy Griffin, principal, sundown high school. You get what you demand. You encourage what you tolerate. I'm telling you guys, if you ever go to San Antonio, the magic time machine, it is where it is at. Jay Griff? Hey man, that's great.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I hope they won the state title. I don't know. He posts on Facebook, or on Facebook sometimes. Yeah, he does. He's a good dude. Here's another one. Cochers, how many teams from each division make the playoffs? Also, how do the playoffs work?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Never been in a league this big, and I'm new to the multi-division aspect of it. Thanks in advance, double Z. Yeah, not the time or place for it. Just hit the message board. Nobody wants to hear about it. Zach Zapata, top two from each division make the playoffs. The number one, whoever has the, the higher record of those four is the number one seed.
Starting point is 00:47:03 The other division winner is the two seed. And then you have three and four. And you have the AFC and the NFC. You know, I was waiting for on that one. This year we've decided to have the top three teams. Yeah. We decided top three teams now that I'm on the outside looking in. That's what we're going to go with.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Justin's hit me up about changes that need to be made. He goes, we're the top four team in the league. Changes need to be made. like he's saying that your scoring isn't good or something. Hey, coaches, we have a fantasy etiquette question. The last place person just traded McCaffrey for Alave and Lamar Jackson. Stop. What would your thoughts be if this is in your league?
Starting point is 00:47:43 Russ and Cali. You can't do that trade. Congrats on winning two pick-em weeks. You definitely stepped it up since my last email. Russ and Revis. Well, I'm going to be honest. Alave and Jamar. Lamar.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah. That's really not that bad. out of it. I mean, I don't know what that is. It's a quarterback. I don't know what you had at quarterback before. What if you were going with Tyler Slaw? You can get a free quarterback, get you 20 points. The quarterbacks really aren't at trade pieces. In Europe, I don't think it's that. That's not a, if it was just a lave for McCaffrey, then I could say, okay, that's egregious. Alave, how many times have you seen him on Sports Center this year? Well, they don't really show Saints games on Sports Center, but he gets 100 targets a game. He's the only wide receiver they have.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I thought they had Rashid Shaheed. He's on the Seattle Seahawks. He was traded. See, I mean, I don't know. It's not that bad, in my opinion. No wonder Seattle's good. They got Ingigba and Shaheed. Well, Shaheed just got there and he doesn't really do anything since he got there.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'll be honest with you. He hadn't really done much. But all right. I think that's it, man. We got football this weekend. Oh, I need to give you moneymakers. We'll be right back. I'll do that right after this.
Starting point is 00:48:51 The 2026 NFL draft is here. And the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all. Engels. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clipper Taylor the 4th.
Starting point is 00:49:27 might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose,
Starting point is 00:49:57 and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,
Starting point is 00:50:10 this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
Starting point is 00:50:33 You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?
Starting point is 00:50:57 The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. They said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:51:14 On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Look, it's the holiday season, man. You're with family. You're having turkey. And you want to know what is going to make you some money. A prostitute, Ray. Well, I got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I messed up. You messed up? I messed up. Last week I took the Seahawks against the Titans. And I have to realize that you were wrong. I told my buddy that one and I wake up because I don't watch that crap. They're the worst team in the league. And the Preds are the worst team in the league.
Starting point is 00:51:54 This is about to be trash bagged town. You told me minus 13. They won by six. Yeah, I was wrong. I was wrong. And I have to realize that these NFL teams, they get up by enough, they don't care anymore. Then they're not worried about covering,
Starting point is 00:52:11 they don't, they don't care about running it up on people. I told Billy that pick. Yeah, well, lost him some money. Right, you tell them you got it from me? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:20 don't blame it on me, but I'm just telling you, I now realize that was my mistake. Yeah, guys, when you hear these picks from lunch, tell your friends and say, it's not on you, you got it from your friend lunchbox.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yes. But then I also gave you the Falcons, plus one and a half. that hit. I gave you the Jets plus 13 and a half. That also hit. So you made money if you picked my picks this week, last week. But I realized these huge spreads, they don't care about getting margin. They just want to win the game and get out of town. They were up big on the Titans and they quit trying to do anything. They just ran the ball. All right, let's get out of town. Yeah, because I remember my guy going, it's 23. Back after the half. I got to see if my troops
Starting point is 00:53:03 are still okay. And then, yeah, what happened? And then they just didn't even try on the second half. They just run the ball. All right, run the clock, get out of town. We're not really worried about the Titans beating us. So with that said, we're going to go back to Seattle. And they're playing the Minnesota Vikings.
Starting point is 00:53:19 All of a sudden, J.J. McCarkey, who doesn't know how to throw a football, oh, he's been so bad that they decided to bench him again, but they say, oh, he has a concussion. So they got some rookie quarterback going to Seattle. Who? What's the kid's name? Pavia. John Wofford? Where did he go? Minnesota? I don't even know if that's his real name.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I just, it's what popped into my head. You might want to fact check, but we don't Google, so I don't care. You sure it ain't warful? Danny Warful? Oh, I don't think it's him. But, oh, God, it's already jumped to 11 and a half, but it doesn't matter. I just told you these big spreads, they don't care about margin. But John Wofford ain't going to do crap against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:54:03 give me Seattle minus 11.5. Wafia. I did bet it at 10.5. That's when I got it. So you're getting 11.5. Getting a bad number, but you're still going to be fine. Where did you get the 10.5 in Vegas? No, earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:54:15 When it first came out, I was like, oh, my God, JJ McCarthy's out. John Wofford, who can't, I mean, there's no way he can play better than, oh, it's going to be awful. And then I don't understand. Explain to me. Yeah, what's up? The Houston Texans on the road at Indy.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Indy's giving up four and a half points. Indy isn't going to score a point. That Domeco Ryan's defense is going to give Daniel Jones nightmares. Give me the Houston Texans. Plus, four and a half. Take it to the bank. Oh, is Davis Mills still? No, C.J. Stroud is back.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He was concussed. For like six weeks. And I don't think it matters. It's all about the defense. That defense is going to. Keep them in games. And I just read it this morning. You can get overcome the concussion protocol.
Starting point is 00:55:10 You need four sessions of practice. And then the NFL says, get back up on there, slapping the butt, play some football. Then the San Francisco 49ers are traveling to Cleveland. So I believe that the quarterback for the giants. Jackson Dart, he will be back on Monday night football. We are hoping he has a successful session. Against the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:55:31 But here, we're going to, we're going to Cleveland. Shadour Sanders. Shadur Sanders. The guy sucks. Do you want to know what nobody's talking about? It's how he sucks. I know you don't do data. He was the worst quarterback last week.
Starting point is 00:55:45 They won 24 to nothing. Yeah. Close to it. Six or seven, the other team scored. He was the worst statistical data-driven quarterback in the entire league last week. So bad. So bad. Nobody talks about that.
Starting point is 00:55:59 No. He had like a four pass-a-rating. Yeah, because one, he threw a screen, passing, they ran it for 70 yards. Then the other two touchdowns they scored with Quinn Sean Jenkins. They said, Shudur, we don't even trust you to have the ball in your hand, get off the field.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It's a trick play. No, no. He wasn't even on the field when they scored two touchdowns. They said, we're going to let Oh, it was the Wildcat. Yeah, they were like, we're going to give the ball to Quinn Sean Jutkins and we're not going to make you let you make a decision that could screw us up.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So don't even worry about it. Come stand on the sideline. we can score without you. And everybody's like, oh my God, Shador, he won his first game. He's so amazing. They didn't do crap. The Raiders were just so bad. My dad put us in a 3,000 square foot house and then drove us to the inner city.
Starting point is 00:56:48 He goes, man, that's just, I just got one week of practice. Imagine if I had first round reps all season. Oh, my God. Dude, you didn't do anything. You were so bad. So bad. And now you're going to play the San Francisco 49ers. Their defense isn't great.
Starting point is 00:57:02 But you're going to get annihilated. The Niners, minus four and a half. That's it? Take it to the bank. Whoa. Take it to the bank. I think Vegas made a mistake there. That should be about 13.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I know Brock Party looked bad on Monday night. He threw three interceptions. What is this league right? What is this league? I told Justin, copycat league. A flip-flop league. If you're good one week, you're bad the next week. You're never as good as you look and you're never as bad as you look.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Brock Party is not that bad, and he's not going to be that bad this week. He won't throw three interceptions. Yes, Miles Garrett is a menace. He's a defensive player of the year. But Kyle Shanahan is so smart, who should be the coach of the year. That will be variable. No, I mean. Stuygens in second.
Starting point is 00:57:48 How is Shanahan not up for it? They have nothing but spare parts. They haven't had their starting quarterback, and they're still eight and four. They're unbelievable. They haven't had wide receivers. their number one wide receiver's been hurt. Their whole defense is hurt. And they keep winning games.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Well, then why don't you bet them to win the Super Bowl? Because I'm pretty sure it's a 33. I believe that Kyle Shanahan will. Miles Garrett, come on. Screenplay. Dump it off. Quick passes. Miles Garrett ain't going to be a factor.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Give me the Niners, minus four and a half. Take it to the bank. Happy Thanksgiving. Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble. And guys, remember, you got to predict the future, not the past. I loved Vegas. lines just looking them up. No
Starting point is 00:58:32 Vegas person said the Rams were going to win the Super Bowl. Now, the Rams are four times your money. They are the best team in the league. To win the Super Bowl and the Chiefs are like a 14. You got the bills are like a 15. Vegas is so reactionary.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Guys, predict the future. Not the past. Well, I hate to tell you. I mean, I just hate to tell you this. The freaking Rams, they play the Panthers this week. Bryce Young looked terrible. He looks terrible. I don't know how he threw for 500 yards against the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:59:07 The Rams are going to annihilate them. The Rams are the best team in the NFL. And I looked that up too because I was curious. Bryce Young is consistently ranked as one of the bottom half quarterbacks in the league. He's so bad. He's so bad. So how are they winning a decent amount? That's another coach that should be up for Coach of the Year, that Dave Conallis guy.
Starting point is 00:59:27 The fact that he's won six games with Bryce. young as his quarterback, miracle. That's coach of the year stuff. Just because you win the most games doesn't mean you should be coach of the year. I mean, Shanahan, I don't mind Brable because they sucked last year. And what he's done is amazing. And Canales, those are the coaches of the year. We got to go, man. We got to go to Thanksgiving dinner. We got to go. You got to start thawing out the turkey, dude. Well, and I'm going to try and go to Vandy and the Valls in Knoxville. Are you really? I got to tell Beezer. I'm taking the nephews. I think that's a great idea. I don't think it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I told her I want to do the turkey trot. Guess what she said? What? We're not a turkey trot household. Oh. Thanks, Bezer. Love you too. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles.
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