The Bobby Bones Show - SORE LOSERS: Why is BAE proud of SZN? What did he do?!

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

SORE LOSERS: In this episode SZN woke from a nap when BAE hit him with the I am proud of line that really shook Ray's world. Plus Lunchbox's wife put him in an awkward situation with a group of moms in the neighborhood but then it took a turn that turned into an incredible experience for Lunchbox. Ray and Lunchbox can't get on the golf course so we can't even talk about golf to bore the listeners thanks to all the rain and we talk about Coaches Convention 5! Also we read some emails for Sore Losers Nation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, man. Hello. I can't even tell honestly if I'm on or if the mic's on or a back. Yeah, no, because you don't have a condom on. Yep. One day. One day. one day we're going to get a pair of these called headphones.

I don't think if you watch Howard Stern, does he do it without a condom? Don't think so. I'm not watching game tape on other radio hosts. What about your boy? McAfee. Maccify. Does he do it with headphones or none? He does earbuds, I think.

Okay. So he has something in the ear? Yeah, but. And most people that call themselves audio engineers or audio people, I'm, pretty sure they got to hear the audio to do the audio but hey whatever man I think it leads to a better show as I'm trying to say I got it I believe you and I did have the complaint from my wife she said that the horn was too much so now if I am going to hit it please tell me this remote has a battery it does I will lower it a little bit and I will use it sparingly not bad I wasn't a bad

one. I got a compliment from my wife the other day, not to start it off on a positive note or anything. Good. She goes, I don't know what prompted it, but she goes, this is dead serious. I'm not kidding. No, I believe you. I believe you that your wife gave you a compliment, and so I can't wait to hear it. I just woke up from a nap, so I was half drunk and groggers, and she said something to the effect of, it's really cool what you and lunch have built. I'm proud of you. But I had just woke up. I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know where. it came from. What is going on? I don't know.

I was like, what did we build? And you're proud of us? Or she's proud of you? So explain to me what she said next. Like then did she say, I want a new car? And then did she say, hey, I want to add a basement? Like what followed the, usually it's a butter up. And then they'd say something.

I think she read a comment on some message board, and it said that they loved the podcast and how much it meant to them. And so then she said that. And I go, oh, thank you. But I didn't really know. I don't know where it came from. But yeah. Wow.

She was moved to say that to me. We never get deep with each other. That's just our life. I'm not going to be like, honey, I've never told you this before, but I love you. She just knows I love her. There's things you just know in a relationship. So I just, we just know I appreciate her. working, she appreciates me working.

For her to stop down and say, really cool what you guys have built. I was like, Rome wasn't built in the day. Thanks. I don't know what we're talking about. Huh. I don't think my wife, maybe at the first coaches convention,

she was like, this is pretty cool. I don't know that she's ever said, I'm proud of you, like what you've built. Right, but remember the first coaches convention, you were emotional at the roulette wheel because you said, I built this. No, I didn't say I. No, no, no. Stop. Stop. Now you're lying. No, no, because I never heard it. And I go, hey, why didn't get it? Why was Ludgebyed emotional?

And somebody said he was talking about building this. Like you were a construction worker. No, I got emotional at the roulette table. Because we won, Ray. Hey, all of a sudden, man, we were all real happy with each other when we'd won. another consecutive roulette spin. No, I was more the whole time leading up to it. I mean, from the first time in the shower, washing the left armpit and thinking about

coaches convention, throwing a party, doing this thing, I thought, oh, my gosh, is this actually going to work? And all the lead up, like, are people going to be there? Are people going to be there? Are people going to be there? I had no idea. And then when we went to that open bar happy hour at the Westgate and there were so many people there, I think it emotionally like released some like the stress like I didn't show the stress on the outside. On the inside I worried like, oh my gosh, this is going to be a big bust?

Is this going to be a big bus? And so I internally, I worried about it. But on the outside, I acted confident. And then we go to the roulette wheel and we win and I see, I mean, a mob, a literal. mob of people around the roulette table jumping up and down, screaming, people going absolutely crazy. And I don't know what it was if it was the months of planning, the months of stress, the heck, I haven't been anywhere because of COVID. I don't know what it all was. But I did get emotional. And I said, I can't believe we built this. I can't believe this many people came.

why and I kept asking people and maybe I was a little intoxicated too because Martinez Eric that you he kept saying I'll do a shot and tall guy let's get me get on my shoulders take a shot on my shoulders and all that combined I started asking me well why did you come like why are you here like what what made you come because I was shocked that people were there I was shocked. So I never said I. I never said I built anything. I said I had a dream in the shower with the left armpit and a bar of soap.

But it was a wee the entire time. This may be the wrong clip. I can't hear it. I don't have a condom on. So tell me if this is it. Okay. I'll bleep that. I don't know who that is.

It says CC roulette setup. Oh, no, that's not us. five minutes i'll remember that that was not our clip is it bad audio that can play uh i think it's a different podcast okay so i don't think that's us but ours should be in there somewhere i searched all the keywords bet roulette coaches convention oh red red bet red bet red bet no no yeah man so i i don't know that's pretty cool that your wife said that and and i i i I, what's happened with Calloway, like his diagnosis and everybody, like, rallying behind him and everybody's showing up for him, that's when it's weird to me is like, wow, these people like met, they like each other, they're friends, and they have each other's back. I thought they were just a drunken degenerates, but it's like actual, some of them have souls that, like, want to take care of other people.

Like Emily McKibben, she's a teacher. I mean, that's weird that we have a teacher that and the slippery nipples from New Mexico. You wouldn't think they would want to listen to this show. Did you find it? We're not going to find it. Okay. The database has been corrupted with other shows. You've got people writing over files.

There's a rap station. There actually isn't that. There's a rock station. There's a rock station. There's a, what's the other one? River. So everybody copies over files. Yeah.

We actually got an email. Speaking of Callaway. So say coaches, I've always had a make a wish list just in case something bad ever happened to me. I had the surgery a few weeks ago and I went and looked at my list. Number one on his make a wish, be on around the horn. That show canceled. It got canceled, man. Sorry.

Number two. As a Saints fan, catch a pass and practice from Derek Carr. Oh, no. And they may be the worst team in the NFL that you. year with plow. Oh, no. Number three, I always respected Diddy. I wanted to go to one of his parties. I got to tip your cap to that one. Number four was hang out with Mike Leach for a few hours. Oh my gosh. Is he being funny? I don't think he's being funny. He's 0 for five. Attend a Texas College World Series game. There you go. They didn't make it. And number six,

guest appearance on the sore losers. The door is open, Calloway. The door is open. Seems like only one of these things is still a possibility. Holler at me if y'all need a guest host in the slow months of June or July. I'm only a couple hours away. Taylor Calloway.

Calloway, love you, man. Thanks for that. We need to make sure whatever bar we're having some of our stuff that has a wheelchair ramp out front for Callaway. Cappy. And Cappy. I think Cappy will come. Yeah. It's an aging demographic.

We've been doing this for seven years now. That's the thing. You know. You think Callaway's going to need a wheelchair? Yeah, probably. I imagine he's got crutches right now. He's not telling us, but he's got a cane. He's not walking how he was.

I mean, he's got a diaper on. He's not putting that in the email. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I've never been through any of this. I'm not quite sure exactly how it works. But yeah.

So when your wife says she's proud of us, when we get emails like that, that's like, dang, dude, he wants to be a guest host on this show. That's wild. And it could just be, with my planter fasciitis, which is now healed, thank the Lord, I could have used a wheelchair. Man, when those feet stop working, that's a weird feeling.

I can run again now without pain. Really? You're okay. Yes. It randomly just need to be stretched out. Anad, Bazer's nurse, told me how to stretch it out. How'd you do it? It's basically you find a step on a stairwell and you just lift your legs up and down and just stretch out that middle

part of your foot. It just like gets the nerves and the cells working and going and gets the receptors fired up that and then oh i iced it as well ibuprofen at first you know you take one here one there and then you just don't need the ibuprofen anymore and a guy told me an uber driver speaking of ibuprofen he said how do not have a hangover so this might come in handy for the convention let me tell you uber drivers are real smart he said four ibuprofen 200 milligrams each so it equals 800 milligrams he takes before he drinks. I don't know if that's safe. Yeah. Let me Google. I'm just going to say that I'm not a doctor.

Is it safe to take ibuprofen? Ibeprofen. 800 milligram? That's half a trank. But what's next? Ivermectin. The old horse tranquilizer right in your ass. Oh, it's usually safe to drink alcohol while taking ibuprofen. If you take too much and drink too much. It'll upset your stomach, though. Well, that's just if you drink too much.

He told us that, and he also told us his favorite bar was Kid Rocks. And I said, oh, because they dance on the bar, and he goes, yeah. What the? Upskirt. Oh, man, I'm proud of you. Right. Let's start the show. That was it, man. That's all I had. No, no, no. Because you've talked about your wife, so you're going to start the show, and then I'm going to tell you

about how amazing my wife is. Arnold? I'm going to tell you how. What the? All right. We'll talk to Arnold here in a minute. Are we going to go live? Yeah, we're going to go live right now. Arnold, are you good?

Your voice warmed up. Sorry, losers. Okay, good. We're going to do it live. We are the one, two, three. So are losers. What up, everybody? I am Lunchbox.

I know the most about sports. So I give you the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius. What's up you guys? Um, maybe apparently I'd a point. Port make condos rooms in downtown Nashville because of the price. We pay $3,000 a month.

Over to you, Ray. Yeah, I saw that article as well. It said Nashville is top 10 in the top 10 of 50 cities in America with the most condos apartments added since 2020. Wow, that was a lot of numbers. Didn't think going in that I was going to have to say all that. But very interesting. And we look across the river, there are two condos unoccupied.

So that makes sense, Arnold. What up y'all? It is Sizzin from the North Alpha Mail. I live with Bayser, my wife, 2.2 acres, 2.2 kids at Vanderbilt Clinic lunch knows of them. Justin actually observes them every single day. And we won't sell. We won't sell. It's corncissin.

The corn stalks, guys, I was wrong the other day. They're actually over the car. So they're about six feet high. Thank you. They're going to be going to market soon. I knew you had to be wrong because all of the rain, I mean, there hasn't been, everybody's like, where's the golf pod? Where's the golf pod?

We haven't been able to play golf, guys. It's impossible. I was at the grocery store yesterday, and this old lady behind me, she probably maybe 75, 80, and I'm getting done checking out, and she tells the cashier, yeah, I was supposed to go play golf this morning, but I had to cancel. I'm like, cancel. You probably had to cancel the last two weeks.

It doesn't stop raining. She goes, I know, I was going to go with one of my grandkids, and I had to call them last night and tell him, Johnny, I don't think we're going to be able to golf. what perfect time with grandma to play golf and you get to clock it as time with grandma I mean how awesome would that be if grandma and grandpa played golf because the problem is you go over to grandpa you can talk sports grandma was always tough and she wasn't she was into sports I think because of grandpa but it was always just you're trying to find that common ground but to

have golf wow yeah I could talk Kansas Jayhawk basketball with grandma and grandpa but they didn't play sports it wasn't like we were going to go you know run around the track or swing the baseball bat at the batting cage, but they enjoyed talking Kansas basketball. So we could watch Kansas basketball together. Kids, grandma, grandpa, old lady. Do you think it was a country club or muni? Oh, I think it was a muny.

Well, I don't know. Maybe her grand, I didn't see her grandson, so I don't know what her grant. I mean, she looked like just a normal old lady. See, that's sad. I would hope in the dawn of our lives, just much like her, that we can, first of all, afford to get groceries delivered.

Grandma doesn't need to be going to the store. but also she's active though she wants to stay active and stay interactive that that helps be interact with people that's actually cool i don't know why i said that but the country club she what is it 20 000 a year you got to be able to afford that but don't you have to pay to get in like you do but then you get the better tea times and it just seems like a better staff i bet they have drink girls we got to bones do the country club have drink girls because they got to they don't at munis i'll tell you right now no they did the last time i played a country club uh uh They did have a drink girl.

She came around. Ray, it was a drink prostitute. No, no, it wasn't that. But speaking of, you were talking about the condos in Nashville, unoccupied. Yeah, we can see them. Yeah, so people, like maybe not even get an Airbnb or a hotel, just crash at one of those. Like a flop house, just break in and live there for a couple days. It'll take them a couple days to kick you out.

And also, if you're coming for the coaches convention, be careful of the sewer rats. I don't know if you saw this, Ray. Two dudes were at a bar. Is this a joke or story or a real life? No, there's real life. Oh. And they start talking to these chicks and like, hey, you want to come back to our Airbnb? And the chicks said, yeah, we'll come back to your Airbnb.

One chick and one dude went in one room. One chick and one dude went in the other room. And the dude was like, all right, I got to go to the bathroom. So he takes his watch off, puts it under his hat. She's in the bed. And he goes in to go take a pee and he comes out and he sees her reaching for the $20,000 Rolex. There's nothing wrong with a reach. She grabs it and he's naked and she takes off running.

Her friend runs with her. They run out of the condo. You got to defend your honor with your sword, man. You got it right there, arms length. They gone. Got that $20,000 Rolex. Dude jumped on the phone. called 911, gave a description.

Luckily the girls didn't get far because they left their shoes. They were barefoot, two blocks away, arrested. So if you're going to wear a Rolex, people, be careful who you're taking back to your Airbnb. But if you don't have a Rolex, go with the sewer rats. That's Billy and his buddy. They were wearing audio paquettes, $100,000 watches.

Don't know what that is. Never heard of it. Yeah. I'm not a watch guy. We're going to take a break, and I'm going to tell you all about how amazing my wife is. Since your wife complimented you, I'm going to give you like a little story about my wife and how she made me feel right after this. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles.

Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliford Taylor the 4th.

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Listen to a slight change of plans on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yesterday, Ray, my wife's like, hey, I got a doctor's appointment, so I'm going to have to head out. It's at 1.45. You want me to put my stethoscope on in the robe? I said, no problem. You go to the doctor. It's all good. I'll be here.

Knock, knock, knock. Are you ready for your boob exam? No, I don't think it was a, I don't even know. I'll be honest. I don't know what it was. And I don't ask questions. I'm just like, all right, go for it. And then I get a text.

And it's 3 o'clock. And she says, head at home. But Rachel may beat me there. And I was like, what? She goes, yeah, she's coming over with her two kids. So just let her in if I'm not home. Awesome. I'm like, our boys are asleep.

She's okay. Just let him in anyway. Okay, cool. So about eight minutes later, I get up. There's Rachel and her two kids. And I'm supposed to entertain this lady and her two kids. Cool. Thanks, wife.

Let me talk to these ladies. Blah, blah, blah. This lady, blah, blah, blah. You know her. Yeah, I know her kind of. I don't know her that well. And then, what do you know? Here comes Sarah and her three kids.

Okay. Hi, what's up? How you doing? Come on in. I know her. So I can talk to her. I know her kids a lot better. So now there's five kids and two moms.

and me. My wife's still not home. I like the ratio. Then who comes walking up, Ray? Another woman. Yeah, I remember the random lady and my wife talked to when I was out for a bike ride and here she comes with her two kids. At some point you've got to take it to the living room, a little bit more cozy. And it's us three and her two kids. So that's seven kids and me and three women. My wife still isn't home. I don't see a problem yet. You don't see a problem. Hey, I'm just going to have all these ladies over and I may not be home yet.

Like, if you're going to have these people over, like at least be home. Because I don't know. The Rachel, I barely know. The other lady, I know her for five minutes when she was sitting on my front porch. No idea what I'm supposed to say them. Hi, guys, this is, what's your name again? I didn't even know her name. I had to introduce her to the other two ladies.

then my wife gets home, then my three kids get up, and we got pure chaos at the house. And that's going to be my story later, chaos. Yeah. It's exactly what just happened. And that's all it was. And I was like, oh my gosh, I can have no relaxation time. I got all these kids, these women. And then I'm like, do I have to sit in here and chat with them?

Or can I go in another room and just like watch the College World Series? And that's the thing. What's wrong with them coming over putting their show? shelves on display. I don't see the problem. The problem is my wife gave me no heads up. Shelds on top, Ray, ath leisure on bottom. I'm not mad about them coming over. Hey, Jenny. How you been? How's your sex life with Gary?

I just found it a little strange. You can talk about the same crap you talked about the dads with. Campfire in the back. The kids. How's your sex life? School's out for the summer. The pool. Bikinis. All that is the same. crap you talk about with the dudes. No, no, no. The one dad, I still haven't even met. Like, I've never met him.

The wife that my wife met on the porch, I've never met her husband. Don't know him. Let's be real. None of the women came with their husbands. Probably all their marriages are on the rocks. Or they're probably all at work. Oh.

Oh, and they're all stay at homes? Well, no, one got off. They think you're a stay-at-home husband? Exactly. That's exactly where I was going right. Oh, my gosh, they think you're... They're like, what the hell is this guy doing? They think you're the brother.

The two ladies that I don't know well, I'm like, they look at me like, what is this guy doing? Like, where, like, what? Like, why is he here? Because that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, they think I just sit around all day. Well, they think, okay, hey, he must work from home on a computer. But then you're just there. Then I'm just there.

I'm in the toy room with everybody hanging out, just talking and chatting it up. All right, cool. What's up, man. All right. Oh, hey, how you doing? All right. cool and then you know I'm like hey is everybody want I'm trying to be the fun guy everybody want popsicles woo popsicles even the moms well they didn't want popsicles well they're all

sucking them down I would have liked the scene how they handle a popsicle but one lady deep throats it you're like would you like another one and you can come over every day when's my wife coming I didn't expect things to escalate. No, my wife finally showed up. They were only there for like 13 minutes without my wife. Okay. Grand total. And so the kids go out on the front porch all sucking down popsicles.

And then the bottom fell out of the sky. I mean, it was monsooning. Monsoon Central. And Ray, let me tell you, I have never enjoyed having people over at my house more than at that moment. Because all the kids, there's one kid that's two, the lady I don't know,

they immediately, all of them, out into the rain, splashing in puddles. The women? Not the women. Oh, I was going to say, what a kind of fantasy happened in your backyard? No, no, we were in the front yard.

And when I say this, I mean it like, This is what childhood is supposed to be about. There was not a parent there. None of the moms were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't go in the rain. Don't get wet. Don't get your shoes wet. Every single kid just started screaming and immediately started getting in the rain.

One kid, two kid, three kid, four kid, five. We ended up with like nine kids in the rain. Open-minded moms. Yes. Love it. And I absolutely loved seeing everybody splashing and jumping. And then the two kids from across the street come over. And they have a rain jacket on each and an umbrella each.

I'm like, you guys want to go out there? No, no, no, no, no. I'm like, okay. But then the one girl finally she went out there and started splashing a little bit. Parents never let her do that. But the kids were having the time of their life. And this is when I was like, you know what? For as annoyed as I was, were these people coming over in the middle of the day and me not having any peace and quiet,

my wife not being home when they got here. This is fantastic. You just saw a trail of kids run by, splash all the way down, turn around, run all the way down the street, splash. It was like a trail of kids, and it was the most poetic day I've had in a long time. Safe street, though, kids can run on it. I mean, there's cars. Because, I mean, over in my neck of the woods, I got these little and they were, running the road, I got to go one mile

an hour by him. Hi, Mom. I will say that. I'm like, you want me to hit your kid? Like, he's one foot from my car. At what point do I not hit him and drill the brakes? And I killed a kid. I mean, I get playing in the road, but if a car's coming, isn't it your duty as a parent?

Like, let me get my kid. This one lady, she doesn't care. Hey, hi, yeah, yeah. What about your kid? He's in the middle of the road. I mean, he's going crooked on his scooter bike rider. Come on, man. I will say they did a great job, a hanging by the curb where the, you know, the water funnels up and puddles. So his big splashes.

And I will say I loved one that, like they're waving at cars and one SUV rolls down the window. This dude sticks his head out the window. And he's a middle finger. I thought he was about to get him the middle finger. Y'all kids. I thought he was about to say, get out of the road. Father. Instead, he sticks his head out the window, throws his left arm out and goes,

Go kids, go! Go! Go kids! Yeah! Get wet! Big splashes! He was cheering on Team Kid. He was cheering on Team Kids for getting out in the rain and living life. And then he honked, waved, and kept on driving.

And my wife's like, who was that? And I was like, I don't know. But I love that dude. I love that dude And I will say the two-year-old, though, of the family I don't really know, he kept running out in the street and mom had to keep jumping off the porch

running out there, grabbing him, saying, hey, you got to stay with other kids. Yeah, some kind of urgency when they're in the middle of the road. And then they'd run to the backyard and the two-year-old would run up the street and she'd have to run and get back over here, go in the backyard with the kids. Then they'd come running out of the backyard

and back down the street. It was awesome. So my wife, for not giving me the heads up, for being late to them getting there, telling them to get there before. She's even going to be home from the doctor a little annoying. But what were they getting there for? Just to hang out.

Puddle day? That we didn't know it was going to rain. Okay. They were just hearing the play. The kids were going to play. Get to know each other. The mom's wanting to hang out and chat. Were the moms interested in you talking?

No, I mean, the one that I know, me and her talk. So it was like, we could have conversation, talk about everything. Because there's Jessica, our neighbor, sometimes they don't even let me get a word in edgewise. And I'm like, okay, all right, ladies. I'm going to go in the TV room. Yeah, there was moments when they would just get lost in conversation. And I would just be like, I'll just go in another room. I'll come back in a minute.

Don't worry about it. And so it was fantastic. It was a fantastic afternoon. So my wife never said she was proud of me. But later last night, we were sitting down after the kids went to bed. Did you serve the ladies a couple drinks? Did you offer them refreshments? We did offer refreshments.

Outside of the popsicles? They drank some... Oh, ladies, we have week old grape juice. Might I interest you in? What about milk? It expires tomorrow. No. Hey, milker, milker, milker.

I know what it's called. Spindrift. Spindrift? Yep, wine. I don't know. I know they had some of that. That's what I know. My wife said, oh, you guys want some spindrift?

You ladies, good to drive? I know you walked over. How are you doing, Sarah? They did. They walked. Here's the thing. You ladies, good to walk. I'll see you later, Jane.

Hey, a little wet out there. Put on a color, not white. See you, ladies later. The bottom had dropped out of the sky, dude. There was no walking home. So two strollers were left at the house. You ladies stay the night. It's way too dangerous out there.

I'll call Mark. And the husband that I still don't know, he didn't come pick up his wife and two kids. That's another sign. So my wife and then the other lady that I kind of know, her two kids, they all piled in the car and my wife drove them home. She's like, do you want to drive them?

I'm like, I might be a little weird. Don't know these people that well. So she took them all home, dropped them off, boom, boom. And there you go. That was my afternoon. You don't want to put on too good of a show. It sounds like you've got 12 kids now. I know.

They'll probably be back today. But that's what I'm saying. It was such a fantastic afternoon. And last night when we're sitting down the wife and I and I looked at her and I said, I'm going to tell you what. I said earlier, When all those kids were running in the puddles, I said that was such a beautiful day. And she goes, I knew it.

I knew what you were thinking. She goes, I saw you watching him going, this is what he wants. This is why he loves this neighborhood. He is so happy right now. And I said, I was over the moon because that's what I want. A freaking gang of kids running around, not having a care in the world. Whoa, you want a gang of kids? Yes.

And one little girl, though, that was in the gang. Ray gangs minus the killings and drug dealings. She had taken off her dress and she had fallen and she got road rash right on the chair. I mean, oh my gosh, dude. It was bad. But she got up, came and cried a little bit to mom. And then I said, don't you want to go back out there? And she goes, yeah!

And she ran back out there like a champ, dude. It was a day in the rain. So your wife tells you she's proud of you. My wife doesn't even tell me people are coming over. but it turned out to be a great day. Okay, coach, you don't got to keep tying it into the proud of you. No, I do. I'm trying to tie a bow on this segment, just like we do in radio.

We'll take a break. We'll be right back. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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All right, Matt. Are you going to let me talk about the bowling alley? Tell me about the bowling alley. I didn't want people to hear the bowling alley at the beginning and tune out the rest. We teased it last pod, so I wanted to wait until the end. Guys, I don't give a shit about this segment, but we just keep talking about it. That's why it's just built up to the point is not even a segment. It would have never made it on the big shit.

This isn't, dude, our segments are different, man. They're deep. But hey, I finally realize you parents, and that is what you said. Chaos. You guys love chaos. I don't know if we love chaos, but we learn to control, like to navigate in chaos. We live in a constant state of chaos. So chaos is kind of what our norm now.

So we went to the bowling alley. I said I had the niece and nephew. I said they're 14, 11. They're actually 15 and 13. Holy hell. Time flies. forgot that you had that you were babysitting this weekend yeah so we had them all weekend actually it only ended up being about 24 hours I don't know they left early their parents

the guys the dad's a pilot so he sometimes he comes home sometimes he picks up a shift next one time it'll come in at 2 a.m you never know but we go to the bowling alley we went to lunch we went and went to this place on the river I'm not going to name it because you guys will swarm there and oh I haven't been there yet yeah it's still there huh yeah yeah it's one of the few that's the test the time it's there but yeah all the workers are in college. They're flying around, all motivated and happy and actually enjoy their lives. And they're great. The one girl actually had a conversation with this isn't the bowling alley yet. This is this little restaurant right on the river and it does seafood. You can probably look it up

in a beautiful community. But the girl goes, oh, just interested in our lives. What are you guys doing after this? Are these your kids? No, they're not. Oh, how fun. You guys going to the mall? Yeah. Oh, nice. People actually give a crap when they're young and they're a waitress. It's amazing. they're not disgruntled. So we go to the bowling alley. She goes, hey, right around the corner, there's a bowling alley. I said, great, glad I had a conversation. So we go to this bowling alley.

But Beezer tells me, this bowling alley used to be a church. Because Bezor knows where we live, she knows the whole area. She knows everything. She went to Pope John Paul. And Bezor goes, this used to be a church. And I walk in, ain't going to be no alcohol. There ain't no way the Lord is going to allow alcohol in a building that used to be, with a steeple. And so we get in

there, and we learn real quick. Bowling's expensive now. It used to be a dollar for a game. You're telling me. I said I was big talk. I go, we're going to play two games. There is a point to this story, folks. I go, we're going to play two games. For us, four, two games was $88. I was about saying. I backtracked.

I go, whoa, actually, we're just going to play one game, kids, one game. And they both go, oh, yeah, we don't really even like bullying. Okay, cool. Bayzer. Glad we came here. No, no, it's Bayer. Bayer loves to do this kid stuff like you, and the kids don't even enjoy it. We go roller coaster riding because Bayzer likes it. So we go in there to the You don't enjoy roller coaster riding? I do

the ones that gravity spinning gets me sick. Spinning, I can't, I don't do roller coaster's. I can't do like the teacups. I can't do like those big arms that fly you up in the air and just do circles. I can't even do the small children airplanes that just go in circles. Those make me sick.

The spinny one. Is that the one that the one that dropped the kid? I don't know. I didn't see that. You guys Google it if you're not in the truck. So Bowling Alley, yeah, we just paid $44. We did one game, so we go sit down there. And I'll post the picture. I posted it of the whole bowling alley.

Chaos. There are kids running everywhere. Parents don't even look like they know where their kids are. They're eating pizza, drinking pops. There's no sign of alcohol. And I said, I get it now. I now get parenthood. You guys just like chaos.

We don't. I'm telling you. If you enjoyed the puddle jumpers, for lack of a better phrase, phrase. I don't know if that's politically incorrect, but what that in that bowling alley was pure chaos. That's what you like. There is a lot. And a bowling alley is tough because there's kids going every direction. They're just grabbing balls. Sometimes they're trying to go up to the neighbor's lane and they want the bumpers. They want the little ramp thing that they can throw it down. They don't want it. Sometimes they drop the ball before they get up there. It's their turn and they're,

you know, a mile down the bowling alley looking at the video games. You're like, hey, Baby Box 2. It's your turn. No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's not your turn. Hold on. Don't grab that ball.

Oh, wash your fingers. It's a lot of chaos in a bowling alley. Okay. Is that your phone that just blew up? Yeah, it was my phone, actually. But we live in chaos. And you're right. Children's things have become more expensive.

Bowling used to be so cheap and so easy. Now they charge you like $25, someplace is $25, $30 an hour. It's ridiculous. And shoe rental? Oh, like $8 a pair of shoes? Come on. And this was huge.

So you could have actually done a $66 deal and we could have done the bungee jumping and we could have done the bumper cars and the roller derby. All of that for $66. Roller derby. I know. Tell me more. We decided to just do $45. I can give you the name later.

You didn't do bumper cars? If the kids ain't into it, I ain't into it. I don't give a crap about it. And we look at the kids. These kids, like, grew up in Brentwood. I don't think they do a lot of this stuff. Okay. So they ain't going to go bounce around.

They ain't going to go hit a car. When they drive a car in Brentwood, you drive it straight. You don't drive it to hit another car. What got a bungee jumping you have? Did they have? It was like you strap on and just like five people can go at the same time. Got it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

Because they had that at the spring carnival at Baby Boxes Elementary School. And the line to get to get on that thing was an hour and 10 minutes. The carnival only lasted three hours. and we get there and the line is so long and the first thing Baby Box says is I want to do that right now. I'm like, dude, you are going to spend the entire time just standing in line. Slow down, Rocket, man. And I was like, how about Mom stands in line and you go do other things?

He was like, great idea. And so they went and did something else and she just kept waiting in line and she texted me, hey, we're about at the front. You might want to send them over here now. So I tell Baby Box 2 and Baby Box 3, hey, guys you got to go back over there like it's almost your turn and we get back over there and there's 15 people in front of my wife and I said what happens she goes I'm telling you there was only three kids and they just keep appearing so they're holding spots for people so then we see a bunch of baby boxes friends we let them all cut so basically your wife is a line filler and you're crossing guard it sounds like his parents uh I'll be guys this way go over this way yes go that way the only reason I went with the kids I could have sat down the whole time, but I needed to let them know when it was going to be their turn for the bungee jump. Correct. Because after that, I just sat at a picnic table and chilled. So it was popular

there. It was so popular. Wasn't popular at the bowling alley. You could have walked right in and bungee jumped. Holy crap. But I didn't want to do it. They weren't my kids. I mean, it's actually not good for my image. I'm sitting there in an adult diaper bungee jumping at a kids thing. Yeah, it would look pretty bad. Here's the problem with my kids. I think it's more for like the middle-aged kids like 12, 13, because they can actually bounce and jump into flips. My kids weigh, you know, 45, 50 pounds. They can't even get high enough up or they can do any cool tricks.

They can, like, Baby Box 3 weighs, what, 38 pounds, 40, and he can't even jump barely off the ground. Yeah, you got to get up five, 10 feet. So it's not really even worth it. I mean, it was worth it at the carnival because it was free. But I don't know if I'm going to pay extra money for him to do that because he can't even jump that high. Okay, so back to the front of the house. We've been at the bungee station for the past 10 minutes. Sorry. I look over, there's a sports book. They got TVs, but it's a

private area. You have to rent that out. And then as parents, you can throw cake, parties. There's huge massive TVs where he got sports. We still had sports in our area, but it was like crappy TVs, but they had big, huge ones, probably 80 inch TVs over there. You didn't even give me the name yet. I will, dude. I'm not trying to pack these places out. And so then I'm thinking, why are all these parents here? I get the chaos. There has to be alcohol. There has to be alcohol.

And guys, preface, I'm not an alcoholic on the weekends I like to drink, okay? You got to reset. All right. Clear your mind. You ain't in morning radio. I'll hang up and listen. So I'm trying to find some booze.

You're not been it. I'm not in it. If it ain't Paul, it's up to y'all. So I'm trying to find some booze. I see parents. I'm drinking these pops. What dad is just drinking? a pep like just drinking a Pepsi out of a straw and it's not even a big gulp it's just a it's a medium-sized Pepsi just drinking it out of a straw what dad is doing that he's not oh

there's mom over there drinking a sprite with a straw what like parents don't love pop this much then i see another dad he's got what looks like a slushy i'm like there's no way this dad is just sucking down a slushy. There's no way. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's got to be alcohol here. There's no way this place is this hype, this chaotic,

2 p.m. in the afternoon, there's got to be booze. But it ain't at the front, ain't by the shoe area. Pop station, popcorn station, pretzel station. There's one guy getting hansy with bazer. She goes, where's the shoes at? He shows her, but don't worry, touched her. Both times he had to show her where the shoes were. That's my

wife. Thanks. And so I'm watching her making sure she's not getting touched. And I see around the corner. It's a poorly lit area. So I walk over there. Poorly lit. That's a good sign. And you got to get. You would never see it from front of house. You go around. There's a pool table.

There's about four different parents. There's a dacry machine. There are drinks being served. The one dad over there. Yeah. I'll take two rumplements. Thanks. Great. I found the booze. It all makes sense. The bowling alley paired with alcohol makes a fun time for families.

So I go over there. I got a, it was a mixer. You know, wanted to keep it classy in front of the kids. But a lot of the parents are disguising it. You'd never even know if you were a kid that their parent was drinking. 100%. You got dad. It smells like he just had to try to hit gum, but he was sucking down peppermint patty

alcohol in the back. Yeah, I don't know. when the culture has changed, and maybe it was always this way. Maybe when we were kids, a lot of parents were drinking at kid events. I know there was a few that drank at kid events. I mean, I am telling you now, if there is a kid event 99% of the time that the kids events I go to, there is alcohol. And I am shocked at how much alcohol is at these kid events. I did not realize this as a kid, or has it just become more of a socially acceptable thing that that is available? Do you know?

You don't know because you don't have kids. Well, no, no. I got family members. You've got kids doing all kinds of activities. And I've heard not saying the activity, not saying the sport, not saying the classification, not saying the age, not saying the school. They will take champagne bottles and do mimosas. See, that's what I mean.

Not saying if it's indoor, not saying if it's outdoor. they will have mimosas if it is a Saturday event. I am shocked that more people don't go to these kids events and none of them have alcohol. There is at least a two or three. They're like, oh, my gosh, yes. Let's go grab a drink real quick. I mean, all they're doing is jumping on the trampoline.

Do you really need a beer to watch them jump on the trampoline of the trampoline park? It's unbelievable. It's become so much more widely acceptable than it ever has been. I don't know why, but we live in chaos. Hey, now you like kids events? Well, on the way out, right next to it. Pickleball plays. I said, coming back.

You got me for life. I don't have kids, but I'll be jumping on the trampy thing next weekend. They got pickleball next door. We'll take a break. NHEL, it's over, man. The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday.

Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

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and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.

Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program. I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans,

a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. We share stories and scientific insights to help us all better navigate these periods of turbulence and transformation. There is one finding that is consistent, and that is that our resilience rests on our relationships. I wish that I hadn't resisted for so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I tried to reverse jinx it. I texted my buddy, Danny, and Fort Lauderdale.

He's actually in the same place Travis Kelsey and Taylor are in. Seaside, Surfside. Hey, Kelsey's dropped 25 pounds, man. What is it called? Fairline, Sunnyside, Sundale. Sunnyside, California, man. No, it's Florida. I'm just making things.

I texting my buddy and I go, hey, congrats on the ship. But I did it four hours before they came. Just ticking with him. And then they killed them, man. And is that just how it is? Like game seven is always, or the ending game? Because I remember when the Tampa Bay, not Tampa Bay, Las Vegas, they had a close out game in Las Vegas.

They won like 7 to 1. It was like, whoa. And I got to be honest, you know how much I've watched the Stanley Cup playoffs this year? Pretty much zero. I really slacked off. And the finals, I kept saying, oh, I'm going to watch a game. And then I'd look at the score and it'd be like three nothing. I'm like, I don't need to tune into that one.

I need those nail biters. It was already two nothing by the time I looked at the score. So I didn't even turn it on last night. Didn't see them skate the trophy around. None of it. Congratulations to the Florida Panthers. Did they win last year? Yeah, two in a row.

and I didn't have any scratch on it, so it didn't really watch much of the playoffs. But hockey makes no sense. You'd think Canada has the best hockey players. They haven't won it since 93. But it's not the Canada national team, dude. You realize it's run, it's just an organization. That doesn't mean they have the smartest GM, the best coaches. They're just like the Montreal Expos, the Toronto Blue Jays.

It's just a business. So maybe they don't have the smartest businessman. And Vegas, they're a solid team all year. They out. Best team in the entire hockey league was winning. Peck Jets, they got out. Panthers weren't even the favorite to win it. They won.

Well, here's my thing. Is it just, it seems like it would be so hard to repeat in hockey? Well, they got that merchant guy. But why does it seem to happen? Like, didn't the Tampa Bay Lightning win back to back? I mean, the avalanche back in the day, did they win back to back? I feel like they win back to back in hockey every time I look. Well, they traded some huge player in the same division.

Boston traded him and he went to the Panthers. Oh, Marchet shoot. Yeah, Margie Ray. And so they were basically guaranteed to win it. But you could have got them in the playoffs. I always just like to keep up with it three times your money. So, I mean, of course. Of course, guys, when you're not betting, you can see the forest through the trees.

I knew that Florida were going to win it. Why didn't you tell me, dude, because I could have bet the future back then, but now it's too late to bet the future. I'm telling you right now, bet Caitlin Clark to win the MVP. Before the future, do it now. It keeps dropping. Hey, they won big last night. Yeah.

I don't know who they played, but I saw they won by 17. and did you know they're only like one game over 500? Yeah, that, but I believe, I mean, I would imagine they're still at the top. I know even money, though, is randomly the liberty. I think they were undefeated until the fever beat them on Saturday. I don't know, dude. The bottom line, I want that scroll. I almost want that scroll to get off my screen.

It just keeps going over and over again so you can't help, but look at it. Like when you're trying to watch, I'm trying to watch the College World Series and everything just on the scroll and I'm like, stop. Dude, if you've been on X, there's more highlights about women's. They were getting in fights. Caitlin got pushed to the ground. Oh. Yeah.

The one girl grabbed the other girl's head. Hey, listen to me. Hey, I'm going to need the password to X because I mean, if some reason it kicked me out. Good luck. Thank God. Mine are auto logged in. I have no idea. No, no, but for the sore losers, I don't have the X right now.

I could not even begin to tell you and I'm not logging out because I'll never get back in. Gosh. Yeah, maybe we got it safe somewhere. I don't know, but happy Wednesday to you all. Enjoy your day. Ray, I'm proud of you, man. What a weird feeling. Yeah, of all the things she's woke me up with after naps, it's usually things I have to do, shortcomings, chores, how she needs my help with something, how I slept too long. This time, she said, I'm proud of what you guys have been. built. And I said, thank you. I need some water. What did she really say? She goes, she goes, it's cool what you guys have built. You guys should be proud. And I go, thanks. We'll continue to build. Yeah, well, we need some more. We need people to subscribe and leave reviews. Five star reviews. Be great. Tell your friends, download it on your iPad and on your iPhone. That'd be

amazing. you know different accounts put it on your husband's phone put it on your wife's phone put it on your kids phone whatever just download it a bunch and uh subscribe yeah we cover everything i think we did man yeah college baseball baseball the guy at beat the streak he was at 50 oh dude i meant i had that written down he was at 50 oh my god my cousin even cousin Andrew sent me a message and he's like dude he's at 50 and i was like i don't know if anybody's ever got to 50 51 Robert mosley and i was like blown away. He was guys, he was seven away from seven hits.

Pick any hitters you want, any day you want. Oh, my God. You just got to get 57. You win 5.5 million. And he picked someone from the freaking Sacramento A's. He picked a guy that doesn't even rotate through the lineup because the A's sucks so bad. And he loved his average. And the guy got four at bats and one of them was a pop-up in the right field and they hit the ground. But because the runner didn't run to second, it didn't count as a hit. Oh, my God.

And Beezer's theory remains true. The MLB is in on it. I got a question, though. Was it a routine pop fly that looked like it should have been caught? Yeah. They said because the runner wasn't breaking, the fielder wasn't as aggressive to try and catch it. There you go. Oh, man.

If you're that dude watching that game, is your TV broken now? No, because you want to know even more sick than him losing the record of 50. He'll still get 10K for being the highest this year. But you want to know something even more sick? I clicked into his account. You can kind of follow him a little bit. He turned around the next day, pick two hitters.

How do you rebuild after 50? And the guy at 40, he lost two. He picked JP Crawford for Seattle, Seattle Safeco, or whatever it's called now. It's one of the worst hitting stadiums in baseball, and he picks JP Crawford. Hindsight's 2015, guys, but good gosh.

If you're number one, me and Justin have already said, pick a tonny, pick judge, go out with the best. going to go out with a guy named Jacob Wilson. Yeah. And the A's, they don't score runs. You want the highest over under. You want

like over 12 runs? I'm picking that. Any game in Colorado, pick someone from that game. Rockies are starting to hit the ball, man. They won like six and five in a row. They beat the Marlins three in a row. Now they beat the Nationals two in a row. Five in a row. Break up the Rockies, folks. World

Series! And rest in peace, low tank. Glad you're okay, man. It was good to see you pick a couple guys the next day. if you were going to be in a dark place, but you still pick people. And I did some research online. I think he either owns a climbing gear company or he's some nerd on the internet that comments on message boards. Because Low Tank's such a unique name. One of the two.

One of the two. Can't be anywhere in between. The 2026 NFL draft is here. And the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night. to Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks.

Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

Well, now I'm bringing. bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok's podcast network on TikTok. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans,

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